@Mira cause western "human rights" protects a international. If we were in China and being investigated, then trust me, we would be locked up in a gulag before even being investigated.
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@@thatotherguy7596 lol you know he's right, that and they were busy colluding with social media giants to cover for Biden. Or going after parents at school board meetings. GTA was spot on when they called them FIB.
For decades, corporate America has starved the public schools of tax money needed to fund STEM education. Why pay taxes when you can hire skilled labor from abroad? What they didn't count on was that these folks would steal their intellectual property, costing the US corporations trillions and loss of their competitive advantage. This keeps happening and they never learn. So short sighted.
💯 💯 💯 @monk3d excellent point, your comment needs to be highlighted everywhere and made to go viral. Corporate America is "penny wise, pound foolish" 😒
Where is th he LOYALTY to America ???!!! These corporations hire a communist over an American ??? Apple got what they deserve !!! Corporations who sell out to cheap labor and non American employees are asking for it. America was the strongest when we were loyal to each other. Now it's whatever makes the most money. I hope you lost millions Apple and I hope you learned a lesson !!!! 🤬
The average American aren't interested in STEM. They would rather take politics, social sciences, English, History etc.. you get my picture. If you attend STEM classes in the top university you will understand what I meant. You see nothing but Asians maybe a few Americans that's a rarity.
@@sblijheid what are you talking about?? this dude was making $400K almost half a million a year. *What are you talking about?????* Innocent Claudia is 100% right.
As an Asian American, this will only worsen discrimination. Pretty soon, we will all be subjected to immigration checks before being able to work at a prestigious firm because of these pests that make us look bad.
He was an obvious flight risk. What bonehead let him keep his passport or failed to keep him detained? He should have been placed on a NO-FLY watchlist before the warrant was signed.
They let him go because they had no evidence of any crimes being committed and still don’t. This is just more anti-China propaganda. The result from this will be more discrimination against Asians and since Asians graduate from STEM at a higher rate, more and more Asians will have to leave the US, as well as other western countries, to find work. The West will find itself in a brain drain, meanwhile, china will advance at even a higher rate thanks to the US.
@savesilence well stated. However, even with just suspicion, they should be able to prevent someone from leaving the country. They actually do that all the time and rightfully so. It's not totally restricting someone's freedoms to do that in my opinion. It's not an all or nothing thing.
China doesn't care about him, they use & own their citizens like pawns. Look what they did to Nortel in Canada & never forgot Covid 19 & the mess they left everyone in #papertiger 🇨🇳 🐯
cheap labor you want cheap labor wait till you see the same thing happening with Indian workers suddenly you find Indian moving and taking stolen tech to India
greed? You are wrong. Chinese people (and other asians) are hired because they are intellectually superior. (This is a fact companies know very well thats why high-tech companies in US has about 50% of employees of asian origin, but asian population in the US is just 5%) All of these employees are working at technical/research roles, while keeping the managerial jobs for white people. Now imagine how the US could compete with a country with 1.4 billions asians (China). Well ChatGPT looks very promising, maybe that can close the gap, but we will see.
Because most new tech is designed and built by chinese.... and designing tech is very hard work, very long hours and needs very smart people... and the best paying job in the US is not designing new tech... it is managing other people's money. Smart Americans know this so they go there. Smart non-Americans coming to the US, do what jobs that they can... and that is designing new tech, even if it does not pay as well.
@@nickl5658that is a lie. It's designed in the US and built in China because of the cheap labor. Apple builds the iphone and it's products in China because of cheap labor cost. US citizens will not 40+ hours a week for $500 a month
What legal basis would they have for taking his passport? Besides, China decides if he should get a passport or not, and if his passport was confiscated, China could issue him a new one.
@@chknparm990 DOJ messed up not arresting Weibao directly following the raid when they could then take his passport seeing that he is a flight risk. Confiscating passport is a deterrence: sure he has other options to escape the country, but imagine what you would do in his shoes without a passport. I doubt Weibao planned for his passport to be confiscated seeing as he was still here, so unless he's got the government connections to get another passport without the DOJ noticing and before trial, it's much tougher to escape prosecution.
They’re already doing this on a Massive scale. This is just one case. You wont believe how many Chemical Formulations are Classified materials in just Enterprise settings just for this reason
This became real for me when I started seeing small electronics that very obviously were either made in the same factory as name brand items or were directly copied and had a no name brand slapped on them. That's just at consumer level. When you get into bigger stuff it's probably mind blowing what has happened.
It's the company's fault also thinking the Chinese factories with cheap labor will give them more profit but unaware that it was copying the trade's secret.
Cheap tech labor? He worked at Apple in California. He was getting paid a silicon valley salary. Perhaps you might want to use that thing up there once in a while.
They did not save any money from hiring these people. US should do a better job to educate Americans so they can take highly sensitive jobs such as these. Even some Americans are sellouts!
@@edenassos He was easily making over 500k and maybe even stock options. You are not some low level engineer if you have access to the whole source code.
How about covid? nobody seems to care how it came by. 70% who worked in China during 2019, knew about all the lies China has put us with. Nobody is saying anything.
Speaking of human rights violation, may I remind you the fact that Native American people have not occupied an inch of European land, or slaughtered a single European in Europe; while European Colonizers have occupied both North & South America lands and terminated 99.9% of Natives population. 😔 In fact, Native Americans population (steep) decline in general occurred not in 15th, 16th & 17th century, when Europeans first arrived and populated mainly along the Eastern shore; but rather in the 18th & 19th century when more and more European Colonizers, so-called settlers took over their beloved motherland coast to coast. For instance, here in California alone there were an estimated half a million (500,000) indigenous Native people inhabited there before Spanish arrived. Less than 5 % were hunter gatherers while the overwhelming majority settled down and along oceans, rivers, creeks, lakes, waterways and grew agricultural stuff for food. After Spanish and Anglo conquest, after placing them in Rancheria & Reservation, less than 20,000 survived. 😔 Native Americans: Our Native American population in our motherland, the Continent of America before the European Colonizers arrived, was around 15 millions, while the European population in their motherland, the Continent of Europe was around 25 millions. Today, Native American population is 15 million, while the European population, in the Continents of America + Europe, is a staggering 'TWO BILLION'! A shocking sad truth. 😔 The world: It's about time to decolonize the Colonized lands, and return it to rightful owners Native American people. Notorious global cardinal crimes the West has committed, and benefited a great deals, such as Slavery & Colonialism had long been over, why on earth is notorious Colonization still lingering on? Native Americans: We're still here. We are not going anywhere. 😔
@@lonesomealaskan2599 My jaw dropped as I learnt Native American population in their motherland, the Continent of America before the European Colonizers arrived, was around 15 millions, while the European population in their motherland, the Continent of Europe was around 25 millions. Today, Native American population is 15 million, while the European population, in the Continents of America + Europe, is a staggering 'TWO BILLION'! It is a shockingly sad truth.
🙄 Dude is looonnngg gone. For all we know, his plane ticket was state funded. ⚠️ Let this be a lesson learned to ALL companies with respect to trade secrets & privileged-access.
@@mikicerise6250 Many lessons here: HR departments have to do better jobs with assessing candidates. Secrecy departments need stronger protocols on how access is granted. Corporate policy should be tightened all around.
Pffft. HR people don't even know what they're hiring for. They don't know a hash from a hamburger. All they know how to evaluate is whether or not you've got that "winning" smile and "go-getter attitude". They choose people based on how right they 'feel'. They don't measure anything objective. These days they don't even read your resumes. Too much work, they say. 🙄 Got AIs to do that for them. If data secrecy is truly critical, a more hardware and brick-and-mortar oriented solution may be the best ticket. Have controlled access points on-premises on locked machines without data ports except to company servers. But then what's going to stop an engineer from just memorizing the 'secret sauce' and ferreting it out little by little to their paymaster? It's not like everything Apple does is unique, it's probably just a few techniques that set them apart, and a determined spy could simply learn them. I mean, this is what NDAs are for. The FBI had this guy and let him get away. All they had to do was get a judge to declare him a flight risk and monitor his movements. They dropped the ball.
They do everything for their home countries instead of training up these kids right here in our backyard we want to to outsource everything due to racism and other social constructs across America. We have everything we need right here. Start initiatives to teach these kids coming from the poor communities in Arkansas, Chicago and California . These companies should be ashamed of themselves
@@iii___iii nahhh bruh I'll take you to downtown LA or SD and show you plenty of young "asians" on the street up to no good. It isn't about capability, it's about CULTURE. And yes, the chinese education system produces enough talent to be exported into the higher echelon internationally.
Wow yeah the same thing happened to me when I worked for McDonald’s and Burger King at the same time 😂my manager was like how do they make the fries bro 😂
This is reported like something new. I feel like any valuable source code from US companies (or even most government organizations) is incredibly easy to steal if you are an employee. I'm sure foreign governments/companies have 98% of everything already. Over half of software engineers in the US are foreign born or 2nd generation. And you aren't allowed to question anyone's intentions or loyalty in the US for obvious reasons. Companies spend years and billions of dollars developing software that can be stolen within minutes.
You are completely wrong. SDE projects are complex by nature, any single project from any team would have 10-100 different files to even build and run on the dedicated server. The actual functional "product" that can even slightly function would rely on 10-100 of these projects to even begin running. So the only people who can even know which files to steal are people who organize and understand the entire scale of the project, and these people are usually Senior level SDE who have 5-10 years of experience (and it has to be within the same company because they have too many techs). Sit on that thought for a minute. You have to work intensively in a competetive field at rapidly changing FAANG companies for 5-10 years, to even be able to understand what you should steal. Secondly, all of their computers that have connectivity are pre-vetted and airtight. Most of the time your computer is issued by the company, whose IT department has 100% control and knoweledge over your access, and you will not be-able to unlock it when disconnected from company network. You may use one of your own laptop, but you have to inject it with the company built backdoors that they would have 100% control over it too. Then, each project, each equipment that is related to the project, they are all guarded by specific Access & Control logics--One would have to take a college level computer security class for at least one month to even undertand how tight these things are. Simply put, you have to apply for 10 different access and authentications to even start working at these companies, and all those access can be turned off once your project is done. It is just not possible for most low level SDEs to steal these techs. The person in question is a person who is capable of being a CTO. His case is uniquely coincidential, meaning he has the tech knowledge background that most of normal SDEs would not have in a life time, he has a specific authentication&authorization from within Apple to be able to see those files, and these access are not turned off when he left the company. (they usually are turned off automatically, following the leaving process) He was also caught, but was able to flee before the investigation process are concluded. I understand that you would "feel like" that these companies are dealing with a lot of these cases every year, and they do, and most of the time they are very secure, because they are very good at what they do, and they also steal from each other from time to time--because that is just how the free market works.
@@oddsparksmurfThis is exaggerated.... "They won't know what to steal"...just steal the entire source, no? Let the techs in your home country figure it out later. "You can't even access your computer off of the network"...my partner works in defense and has a security clearance, and this isn't even true for her, much less a less secure job. How in the world would everyone be working from home if this was true? Yes, not everyone has access to the source, but you don't have to be some kind of superhuman to be working on the actual code. You're making it sound like being a mid level programmer is an Olympic feat...it's really not. Plenty of people work these jobs. Plenty of those people are foreign nationals. I don't know why you figure they have to be "low level SDEs", China has plenty of high level talent to send over here. If the close imitation of US technologies by China is any indication, I would guess this happens pretty frequently. My partner is certainly in a position to steal the code from her job, and she's been there for 6 years...and again, this is a brand-name defense contractor, and she's on a secret clearance. In fact, they had this exact thing happen at their company this year, if I recall. The guy just brought his company computer back to his home country, and they had the stuff off of it before it was realized what had happened. You can take stuff off the machines, it's not like they are blocked from transferring and using files in some way, you seem to be implying that they are.
They are not "investing." They are saving money. These visa workers from India and China are paid less than US citizens. That's why these tech companies will bring them in. If anything, why don't these companies prioritize hiring direct US allies such as workers from Korea and Japan? We know both India and China are competing with us economically on a huge level yet they decide to hire these workers that directly compete with us.
@@JoelErway-pq9ij Not true at all, they get pay same as US person based on location, problem is simply not enough graduate with stem degrees with master and phd coming out of US system to fill those jobs. that is a fact. Only 20% of high school graduates are interested or have the course work to take stem fields in college. It gets worst as very few Americans are looking to spend 6 extra years of studies to fill this jobs. India and China just have a cultural advantage of having kids from early age study hard, or you can say force by parents to prepare early for this jobs. Korea and Japan have better quality of life than US is not as attractive for them , they are also hired just not as much. We got India and China best minds here so this is not a one way street. Instead of force them up with h1B long processing times and kick them out, we need to help them instead to stay with US citizenship and have them forfeit their own citizenship.
@@ChrisBTrappiN it's cause someone willing to take this risk to just glean source code, and then to have the where with all to then get a ticket out of San Fran to China has taken steps (or knows how) to minimize the chances of being caught. Between my ex-gf who "borrowed" money from me and other people (and then went zero-dark thirty) it's a tie who's going to be harder to catch (and then bring to justice).
@@ChrisBTrappiN tech corps need educated labor without liberal entitlement, so they hire international workers who only care about the pays and not the politics. International contractors will cost them more money, but they have less benefits, take less day-offs, and they don’t care about making political changes to the system. The workers can give secrets to companies that are not even on their employers’ radar for extra payouts and also backup opportunities if the tech corp cuts their contracts, which happens all the time. Valuable secrets can also buy protection from international governments, especially with China and Russia. Look at how Russia protects Snowden even though he’s American. This is why these things are impossible to stop
It’s so sad this is happening however it’s also happening in google Microsoft and almost every major tech company. The Chinese government has been recruiting for years while the government focused on social media antics
@@impulsiveurge5837 Valuable they have nothing Musk software is valuable no one has matched it yet and will not.He is 15 years ahead of the rest of the auto industry.
@@doc-vg9lq Let me know when they are close until then I will enjoy Tesla dominating and my stock soar and then pass Apple as the largest company in the world that will be in 4-5 years time.
Now you can stop wondering why China has excel so fast in the last 15 years in auto tech, space, defence and what not. America takes 50-100 years to achieved all these. Too bad, major damages has been done.
@@thepostofficeprince8819 Because the Democrats defund NASA. I know if I had to go to space, I would want it to be on a US designed and constructed vehicle. And who do you think created the international space station that is benefitting so many other countries that contributed nothing? LOLOLOL
you dont even have to be an employee to steal information i can simply br a janitor and have a hidden flashdrive or pineapple or take pictures with my phone.........................
Are you crazy? If you're working for the XiXiPi, you don't own *anything*. I'm not even fuggin' around here, either; NOTHING. Every American and every citizen of Earth needs to get a 3-6 hour education on XiXiPi. The clock is ticking. #2049 #GlobalDomination
And if he’s on a visa, he probably isn’t making the same salary as his American citizen counterparts. Tech people on visas in the US are at the mercy of tech companies that will sponsor them. Lower pay is the name of the game.
Having devices manufactured in China doesn’t make it a Chinese company. SAMSUNG is Chinese. Cheap five volt electronic gadgets are manufactured in China nine times out of ten. The US built and tooled their early factories in China btw. .. certain things are produced best in certain places. That’s just how the world works
Apple let’s employees download the entire source code and store it on their personal computers? This doesn’t sounds suspicious at all. Trillion dollar level company doesn’t have a security scanning capability. Also, working for a similar industry international firm is nothing wrong. Neither is working two jobs at the same time.
They actually don't I used to work for Apple he would've stole in secret and btw they check all phones and block signals in certain floors. He would've stole it via USB or hard drive but I would say he's an advanced hacker because they have numerous firewalls and alerts.
There are a lot of them, both in private and public sectors. Companies like Apple deserve it. Stupid question to ask if China will extradite him. They encourage it. There's even a policy behind it.
His apartment building is shockingly pedestrian for someone who was a top level Apple employee. If that wasn't his hideout, and he really lived there, I'm shocked -- maybe that's why he is trading secrets.
It's California. That apartment was probably close to 3k a month for rent. He wasn't a top level employee either. Maybe mid-level... He was probably making in the low to mid 100ks. After taxes probably about 10k a month.
@@emilegriffith1473 How does a mid-level worker have complete access to an entire project's source code? That makes no sense. It is more likely he was given a small project with limited resources and few people working on it.
@@nickl5658 is that a fact? That he had access to the entire source code? If so, a mid-level employee is still pretty high up. Top-level employees are like the execs and vps... This dude sounds like he might have been the lead on projects but wasn't some big boss
I' not surprised at all to hear this information. It happened many times in the past and still..... again and again. It seems the high-tech companies do little bit to stop it!
I feel like Chinese citizens shouldn't have any kind of clearance in high tech or military tech or even any research for that matter I know this is definitely not the first time it happenes
As a fellow Chinese STEM graduate seeking work in the US, it's disheartening to see how the actions of a few individuals can negatively impact the reputation of the majority. It's frustrating to see fellow countrymen betray their own companies and countries for their own selfish gains. Sometimes, it makes me regret being born and raised in China. However, it's important to remember that theft of trade secrets is not only unethical but also illegal. Hopefully, justice will be served, and Wang's behavior should serve as a cautionary tale to anyone thinking of doing something similar.
Yes it’s illegal but will China do anything stop it? If anything it’s apart of their plan to gain these secrets and I’m sure he was paid handsomely by the powers that be
you are definitely not Chinese from your language . So obvious. Chinese do not envy going to US . ONly Indians envy and work their entire school days to go to US.
@@thecoffeemaker7444 🤣🤣🤣 one thing is clear you won't be able to bully and destroy China as you guys have done to Islam the last 3 decades. China will conquer you wether you like it or not it's just a matter of time
@@rodrozil6544 Except that's not why Apple has their manufacturing plants in Zhengzhou: it's because of lax labour laws in China and the cheap exchange rate. Apple literally has underpaid child labour assembling iPhones just so they can maximize profits for Apple shareholders and C-level execs, a.k.a. exploitation of child labour. Imagine if Apple cared as much about the fate of Chinese children, or forced slave labour of Uyghur Muslim people in China, as they do about their precious "trade secrets". "Apple discovered that Suyin Electronics, one of its Chinese-based suppliers, relied on child labor on multiple occasions, but still took three years to fully cut ties, The Information reported on Thursday. Ten former members of Apple's supplier responsibility team told The Information the company has refused or has been slow to stop doing business with suppliers that repeatedly violate its labor policies when doing so would hurt its profits. Apple has faced intense criticism recently amid reports that it relies on forced Uyghur labor and protests over poor working conditions and wage theft by workers that make its products." www.businessinsider.com/apple-knowingly-used-child-labor-supplier-3-years-cut-costs-2020-12 "Several Apple suppliers may have used forced labor in China, according to The Information. Working with two human rights groups, the publication identified seven companies that supplied products or services to Apple and supported forced labor programs, according to statements made by the Chinese government. The programs target the country’s Muslim minority population, particularly Uyghurs living in Xinjiang. Six of the seven suppliers were said to participate in work programs operated by the Chinese government, The Information reports, which human rights groups describe as frequently offering cover for forced labor. Workers can be jailed for refusing to join the work programs, the report says, and those enrolled in the programs are often moved far from their homes. One of the suppliers operated in Xinjiang, the region of China predominantly populated by Uyghurs and where the most egregious human rights violations have reportedly taken place." www.theverge.com/2021/5/10/22428899/apple-suppliers-china-uyghur-forced-labor-report Apple bases their manufacturing in China, because the shareholders want their dividends, and North American consumers want iPhones (relatively) cheap. Let's face it, iPhones would cost way more if manufactured in North America, because unlike China, in the US the workers actually are allowed to unionize and have hard-won labour laws that ban(ned) child labour, even if the Republicans are desperately trying to rollback those laws against child labour, as evidenced by the number of children found working at McDonalds. And higher labour costs means less profits for Apple. It's not because Apple cares about the costs of shipping iPhones, or they'd build multiple manufacturing bases on every continent to cut down on shipping (which would actually be better for the environment and better for labour). www.cnbc.com/2023/05/03/mcdonalds-franchisees-fined-over-child-labor-law-violations.html "Earlier this week Republican state lawmakers in Wisconsin circulated a new bill that would allow workers as young as 14 years old to serve alcohol in bars and restaurants, down from the state’s current age minimum of 18 years old. The legislative proposal “creates a simple solution” to workforce staffing issues, said the Republican bill sponsors in a memo they circulated to colleagues on Monday. Wisconsin is not the only state looking to loosen labor laws affecting minors, and over the last few months there have been been Republican-led bills in states like Arkansas, Ohio, and Iowa aimed at making it easier for teenagers to work in more jobs and for more hours in the day. Some labor experts say the proposed changes pose little threat to workplace safety, but they’ve overlapped with shocking exposés in the New York Times and Washington Post that uncovered exploited migrant children working illegally in American jobs. On Tuesday, the US Labor Department announced it had found two 10-year-olds working at a McDonald’s in Louisville, Kentucky, sometimes until 2 am. As the Wisconsin lawmakers suggested, these new bills are partly a reaction to the competitive labor market and struggles businesses have been facing to fill open positions. But they’re also rooted in longstanding conservative opposition to workplace regulation, and some labor advocates worry they’re just the opening salvo to a broader attack on government safety rules." www.vox.com/policy/2023/5/3/23702464/child-labor-laws-youth-migrants-work-shortage
US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin: Member of the board of Directors for Raytheon. " As of October 2020, his Raytheon stock holdings were worth roughly $500,000 and his compensation, including stock, totaled $2.7 million"
China has a long practice of sending high school graduates here for college and then graduate school. With the expectation that they will get a job in the tech or defense industry and have access to classified material. China has a very patient approach to espionage. And will invest decades in developing an asset here. The US plays checkers when it comes to intelligence and China has been playing chess for decades.
Not all Chinese students are spies, but China will send students here to get jobs for both classified information and industrial espionage. Foreign born engineers should never have access to sensitive information.
Congress and US government should take action and coordinate with the European Union and the UK and bar that Chinese company from entering the US, European and UK market with any products associated with the IP theft unless the Chinese company comes forward and takes accountability and the thief has been taken to a US court.
@@gijohns7860 As someone who is married to a person originating from China, I find your comment funny. Irrelevant. And funny. Thank you for coming out.
Well good luck lol. This is what you get for cheaper labor for max profits. Bringing back the factories and employments to the state may well prevent or reduce.
Department of cybersecurity and compliance should be held accountable for this. Working on sensitive projects should be in secure facility where engineers have no access to phones. And the facility should be monitored 24h .
Why are people surprised that this happened. We need to develop our own talent to fill jobs and eliminate the H1B Visa program to address any further risks like this situation. Greed is an awful thing.
that's impossibru, american work ethics have been on the decline for over half a century now. there's a reason why that program is very attractive to american corpos.
Trump cracked down on Chinese spying and birth tourism. Biden undid most of it because it's "racist" to investigate Chinese people. It's not Mexicans stealing tech for China. Common sense.
You are an !d!ot to suggest this, AMERICA is currently not even in The Top 30 of most intelligent people academically speaking in numerous fields from Math and Science. A LOT of smart people in America come from foreign countries cuz America pays better and has actual tech companies ahead of other countries. Losing these people is asking FOREIGN companies to keep them for themselves. This is NOT a good strategy if you want America to be ahead in the technology space. Maybe work on bettering Schools instead spreading lies on the News and ignoring the facts. Maybe lets build a curriculum around Science and not Religious fanatics and maybe we can start getting more smart people to contribute to the society and not rely in foreign geniuses.
H1B visa are extremely important. It allows people from all over the world with extraordinary talent to work for top U.S. companies. What Apple should have done is ran an extensive background check on the guy
These American tech companies deserve this for trying to increase profits by hiring foreign country engineers with H1B visas instead of American engineers. What did they think these people were going to do with the knowledge they had locked in their heads after they quit? Forget it all or take it home - and when it comes to the Chinese, is that even a question?
You're stereotyped Chinese. Not all Chinese are the same. Just like all people and ethnicities are not the same. Some Chinese stayed and built a successful business here.
@@talkinghand122 I sure did. Notice the word you used when complaining to me. You used “some” and chose not to use “many or most” If some do negative things but most don’t, throwing a stereotype amplifying that negativity toward the larger group would be wrong. The vice versa is usually quite accurate. Sorry if that bothers you.
@Jim K you're correct to point that out. It was my mistake to use the word in that context. In general, most people are good, except for a small or "some" that are bad. You're also correct on H1B visas. The majority came here for other reasons.
This is what happens when you don’t invest in your own population to grow Stem talent, and your constantly outsourcing tech jobs.. This has always been a problem .
That's why instead of companies begging for more immigrants to fill roles, they should offer a little more money to give the job to American workers. I can't even get tech support now because they hire these Indians that speak another language.
@@upendo.3570 The claim that Americans are not equipped is false. Americans, including both white and black citizens, were instrumental in the historic achievement of sending a man to the moon. Moreover, America played a significant role in China's development from a country unable to feed its population to the economic powerhouse it is today. I totally disagree with your comments.
@@upendo.3570 that’s SO ridiculous, i’m laughing really hard right now. I’m a university student from silicon valley and most people here become engineers at apple, google, nvidia, and many more high tech companies. many asians, of course, (both immigrant and american born) but also a lot of white americans. they all go to university (undergrad or grad, masters, ) around the area mostly-such as in the UCs-REGARDLESS OF RACE. they receive the same education. why are you trying to argue that chinese people are more capable of being engineers? it’s not anything special.
As a Chinese I am ashamed on this guy, and I beg US government should never allow any Chinese passport holder study technology or work in high tech companies in this country.
This cannot be stopped because STEM professionals are mostly hired from outside the country. For example, if you are leading a project and another company offers you a significant bonus or triple your current salary, how could you refuse that? Everybody works for money. If not for money, then why do you work? This is an open market where you have to navigate the advantages and disadvantages that come with it.
Nice, I thought we're all intelligent enough to notice or at least be vigilant not vulnerable. He's long gone and it's going to take God to find him when he's ready.
Should never let a person under investigation to be able to use their passport especially when they are international.
Ridiculous.
Like the "Catch me if you can" movie
Like hooooow did they let him go?
Innocent until proven guilty
@@johnsmokes6775 you mean guilty till proven innocent
@Mira cause western "human rights" protects a international. If we were in China and being investigated, then trust me, we would be locked up in a gulag before even being investigated.
So the FBI let him go. Well done 🙄
They were too busy investigating Trump.
@@61zulu77 MAGAt? 😆
Transgender Paige Thompson released notorious hacker filipino onel de Guzman hired by NSA CIA INTEL ...THEY also released notorious CAPITAL ONE BANK HACKER AMERICAN CITIZEN PAIGE THOMPSON FROM Seattle WA....😂
RELIGIOUS Extremist TERRORIST FILIPINO HUMAN TRAFFICKER
FILIPINO
CULT LEADER
QUIBOLOY...
😂😂DYSFUNCTIONAL DEPT OF FEDS
He helps the new world order create new laws, new control, and progress to a one world government......he has friends like epstein
@@thatotherguy7596 lol you know he's right, that and they were busy colluding with social media giants to cover for Biden. Or going after parents at school board meetings. GTA was spot on when they called them FIB.
My man worked for two companies for 4 months collecting pay and stealing source code. The hustle is out of control.
not to mention the millions ccp paid for him to come back with all the information
He’s no Pablo Escobar
With remote work you can easily hustle more than 2 companies.
Whats the point of all that when you wont be able to enjoy that money and freedom for 10 years
Don’t hate the player. Hate the game
Who didn't see this coming?
Is America asleep or the media just now figuring this out
Look, two years after Agent Orange revealed himself, he's still free. You've got stiffening of the arteries.
@@JelMain Can you elaborate? I think of the Vietnam War when I hear "agent orange".
I'm not sure what "America" has to do with this.
The Biden Administration
I’m part Chinese ancestry myself. I never trust anyone from mainland China. I stay away from them for a lot of reasons
For decades, corporate America has starved the public schools of tax money needed to fund STEM education. Why pay taxes when you can hire skilled labor from abroad? What they didn't count on was that these folks would steal their intellectual property, costing the US corporations trillions and loss of their competitive advantage. This keeps happening and they never learn. So short sighted.
Exactly
💯 💯 💯 @monk3d excellent point, your comment needs to be highlighted everywhere and made to go viral. Corporate America is "penny wise, pound foolish" 😒
Where is th he LOYALTY to America ???!!! These corporations hire a communist over an American ??? Apple got what they deserve !!! Corporations who sell out to cheap labor and non American employees are asking for it. America was the strongest when we were loyal to each other. Now it's whatever makes the most money. I hope you lost millions Apple and I hope you learned a lesson !!!! 🤬
I guess they have more important things to do
The average American aren't interested in STEM. They would rather take politics, social sciences, English, History etc.. you get my picture. If you attend STEM classes in the top university you will understand what I meant. You see nothing but Asians maybe a few Americans that's a rarity.
Very sad. And there are honest people out there who needs a job in that field. He has made it very hard for others. Wicked Soul.
China is not here to take part, China is here to take over.
Don't worry honest person, Apple would never hire you. You're too expensive.
@@sblijheidyou're dumb for respond back to her with a snark remark. She is looking out for Asians.
@@sblijheid what are you talking about?? this dude was making $400K almost half a million a year. *What are you talking about?????* Innocent Claudia is 100% right.
The company believes Chinese people are the smartest people. 🙄
As an Asian American, this will only worsen discrimination. Pretty soon, we will all be subjected to immigration checks before being able to work at a prestigious firm because of these pests that make us look bad.
Exactly. Companies now will think twice about hiring outsiders.
Everyone should be checked.
Welcome to my 🌎
Everytime a Black person does something wrong, you all look at me.
Good luck.
only dmb people will judge you for how you look or your heritage background, not that their own citizens are better...
And that extra scrutiny is well warranted, you can thank the CCP for that.
He was an obvious flight risk.
What bonehead let him keep his passport or failed to keep him detained?
He should have been placed on a NO-FLY watchlist before the warrant was signed.
pppfffttt...fbi.bought his plane ticket....
So many questions... who reported this to the DOJ? How and when did they learn of the theft? Did he know Hunter Biden?
They let him go because they had no evidence of any crimes being committed and still don’t. This is just more anti-China propaganda. The result from this will be more discrimination against Asians and since Asians graduate from STEM at a higher rate, more and more Asians will have to leave the US, as well as other western countries, to find work. The West will find itself in a brain drain, meanwhile, china will advance at even a higher rate thanks to the US.
Ok mr .expert ? I know everything right let me guess you also a medical expert and lawyer right?
@savesilence well stated. However, even with just suspicion, they should be able to prevent someone from leaving the country. They actually do that all the time and rightfully so. It's not totally restricting someone's freedoms to do that in my opinion. It's not an all or nothing thing.
China doesn't care about him, they use & own their citizens like pawns. Look what they did to Nortel in Canada & never forgot Covid 19 & the mess they left everyone in #papertiger 🇨🇳 🐯
This is what happens when companies try to outsource.
Yeah i know…hard to feel bad for Apple lol
nothing was outsourced, he was hired on his merits in the US
@@gatech5190 while ignoring the merits of black tech workers born in the US.
@@T1Oracle maybe he is cheaper than us employee
@Gatech
H1B, while American techs are ignored. They had it coming.
The greed of the companies outranks their common sense.
Apple soaking the people with their products and the people love it.
cheap labor
you want cheap labor
wait till you see the same thing happening with Indian workers suddenly you find Indian moving and taking stolen tech to India
@@johnsebastino4659 america loves cheap labor
greed?
You are wrong.
Chinese people (and other asians) are hired because they are intellectually superior. (This is a fact companies know very well thats why high-tech companies in US has about 50% of employees of asian origin, but asian population in the US is just 5%)
All of these employees are working at technical/research roles, while keeping the managerial jobs for white people.
Now imagine how the US could compete with a country with 1.4 billions asians (China).
Well ChatGPT looks very promising, maybe that can close the gap, but we will see.
C.C.P country.
Letting this thief escapes back to China, what a disgrace.
Why any non Chinese company would let any Chinese national have any tech secrets is mind blowing!
They are so stupid
because the US is lacking knowledge , why do you think the tech field is filled with Indians and Chinese lol
Because most new tech is designed and built by chinese.... and designing tech is very hard work, very long hours and needs very smart people... and the best paying job in the US is not designing new tech... it is managing other people's money. Smart Americans know this so they go there. Smart non-Americans coming to the US, do what jobs that they can... and that is designing new tech, even if it does not pay as well.
@@nickl5658 Tech pays well above the average American salary
@@nickl5658that is a lie. It's designed in the US and built in China because of the cheap labor. Apple builds the iphone and it's products in China because of cheap labor cost. US citizens will not 40+ hours a week for $500 a month
No one thought to take his passport?
What legal basis would they have for taking his passport? Besides, China decides if he should get a passport or not, and if his passport was confiscated, China could issue him a new one.
@@chknparm990 He was obviously a flight risk. There's no way he would have been able to enter the US without a passport so he has one.
@@chknparm990 DOJ messed up not arresting Weibao directly following the raid when they could then take his passport seeing that he is a flight risk. Confiscating passport is a deterrence: sure he has other options to escape the country, but imagine what you would do in his shoes without a passport. I doubt Weibao planned for his passport to be confiscated seeing as he was still here, so unless he's got the government connections to get another passport without the DOJ noticing and before trial, it's much tougher to escape prosecution.
I would think he has a chinese passport.
@@chknparm990 you can’t board a flight without a passport. He may have been able to get another from the consulate but that would have taken time.
Keep your eye on the Chinese.
If you stay real quiet at Apple HQ in Cupertino, you could almost hear the raging laughter in China.
How did y’all let this man go 😢
That's why I think FBI ain't telling us what's going on
(H!nk privilege
Because they say he’s a “model minority “ of course lol
@@moneymaker4417 : More like a double agent now. Most likely they flipped him.
because he is a harmless league of legends, piano playing, nerd
Did they state that he was home at the time?...But managed to board a flight?
So they let him go? Or am I misunderstanding?
The is happening so much more than the media is reporting.
Couple of Phd students at my university were suspended because of this phenomenon
Stop Asian hate
@@gijohns7860 Not Asian, only mainland Chinese.
@@gijohns7860 This is not hate bro. This is serious industrial espionage by CCP, doesn’t matter who does it. It’s espionage
Black lives matter
They’re already doing this on a Massive scale. This is just one case. You wont believe how many Chemical Formulations are Classified materials in just Enterprise settings just for this reason
AND IS NOT THE ONLY ONE.
This became real for me when I started seeing small electronics that very obviously were either made in the same factory as name brand items or were directly copied and had a no name brand slapped on them. That's just at consumer level. When you get into bigger stuff it's probably mind blowing what has happened.
It's the company's fault also thinking the Chinese factories with cheap labor will give them more profit but unaware that it was copying the trade's secret.
Yeah... Knock parts have made it into projects like the F35 jet fighter. What chance do consumer projects have 😂😂
Who are you? A nobody
C.C.P country.
CISCO create a Grey Market problem, same hardware without Brand sale from China... That's what you get moving the factories to China 🤷♀️
His punishment should be he has to go work for Twitter.
He has to stand on a NYC subway platform next to 1000 black guys
I don't get it
@Li H sounds like you had a bad experience
@@lih-fk8by not sure what your point is buddy. I'm not sure what black people have to do with this when it's white people who want him.
@@marsallen4298 probably just being ignorant.
I see nothing wrong with what he did , American companies do it everyday and yet nothing happens.
That is what you get for trying to save thousands (cheap tech labor) while losing millions (stolen tech).
pls tell me what autonomous car apple is making? iCar?
Cheap tech labor? He worked at Apple in California. He was getting paid a silicon valley salary. Perhaps you might want to use that thing up there once in a while.
They did not save any money from hiring these people. US should do a better job to educate Americans so they can take highly sensitive jobs such as these. Even some Americans are sellouts!
@@edenassos He was easily making over 500k and maybe even stock options. You are not some low level engineer if you have access to the whole source code.
@@salflores1202 I bet it was easy af for him to access someone else's credentials. Social engineering is OP. I bet he made less then 120k
Funny how this has been going on for like the last 10 years but only comes to light when big tech cries to big brother...
How about covid? nobody seems to care how it came by. 70% who worked in China during 2019, knew about all the lies China has put us with. Nobody is saying anything.
Now I see why BYD beating Tesla
Biggest concerns of Business operating in China 🇨🇳 are about:
- IP thefts,
- unfair competition and
- human rights violations.
fit US well
Moving back to state all U.S. companies which are in China.
Speaking of human rights violation, may I remind you the fact that Native American people have not occupied an inch of European land, or slaughtered a single European in Europe; while European Colonizers have occupied both North & South America lands and terminated 99.9% of Natives population. 😔
In fact, Native Americans population (steep) decline in general occurred not in 15th, 16th & 17th century, when Europeans first arrived and populated mainly along the Eastern shore; but rather in the 18th & 19th century when more and more European Colonizers, so-called settlers took over their beloved motherland coast to coast.
For instance, here in California alone there were an estimated half a million (500,000) indigenous Native people inhabited there before Spanish arrived. Less than 5 % were hunter gatherers while the overwhelming majority settled down and along oceans, rivers, creeks, lakes, waterways and grew agricultural stuff for food. After Spanish and Anglo conquest, after placing them in Rancheria & Reservation, less than 20,000 survived. 😔
Native Americans: Our Native American population in our motherland, the Continent of America before the European Colonizers arrived, was around 15 millions, while the European population in their motherland, the Continent of Europe was around 25 millions.
Today, Native American population is 15 million, while the European population, in the Continents of America + Europe, is a staggering 'TWO BILLION'! A shocking sad truth. 😔
The world: It's about time to decolonize the Colonized lands, and return it to rightful owners Native American people.
Notorious global cardinal crimes the West has committed, and benefited a great deals, such as Slavery & Colonialism had long been over, why on earth is notorious Colonization still lingering on?
Native Americans: We're still here. We are not going anywhere. 😔
@@lonesomealaskan2599 My jaw dropped as I learnt Native American population in their motherland, the Continent of America before the European Colonizers arrived, was around 15 millions, while the European population in their motherland, the Continent of Europe was around 25 millions.
Today, Native American population is 15 million, while the European population, in the Continents of America + Europe, is a staggering 'TWO BILLION'! It is a shockingly sad truth.
virus😜
This is great, it'll keep prices down with more options down there. Well done! :)
🙄 Dude is looonnngg gone. For all we know, his plane ticket was state funded.
⚠️ Let this be a lesson learned to ALL companies with respect to trade secrets & privileged-access.
haha they dont care one iota. u.s. companies are complete garbage. i use them as a personal means of funds, thats it.
i bet he lives in Shenzhen. LOL.
What's the lesson? I mean, this guy took a job with Baidu while still working at Apple and nobody even noticed.
@@mikicerise6250 Many lessons here: HR departments have to do better jobs with assessing candidates. Secrecy departments need stronger protocols on how access is granted. Corporate policy should be tightened all around.
Pffft. HR people don't even know what they're hiring for. They don't know a hash from a hamburger. All they know how to evaluate is whether or not you've got that "winning" smile and "go-getter attitude". They choose people based on how right they 'feel'. They don't measure anything objective. These days they don't even read your resumes. Too much work, they say. 🙄 Got AIs to do that for them.
If data secrecy is truly critical, a more hardware and brick-and-mortar oriented solution may be the best ticket. Have controlled access points on-premises on locked machines without data ports except to company servers.
But then what's going to stop an engineer from just memorizing the 'secret sauce' and ferreting it out little by little to their paymaster? It's not like everything Apple does is unique, it's probably just a few techniques that set them apart, and a determined spy could simply learn them.
I mean, this is what NDAs are for. The FBI had this guy and let him get away. All they had to do was get a judge to declare him a flight risk and monitor his movements. They dropped the ball.
They do everything for their home countries instead of training up these kids right here in our backyard we want to to outsource everything due to racism and other social constructs across America. We have everything we need right here. Start initiatives to teach these kids coming from the poor communities in Arkansas, Chicago and California . These companies should be ashamed of themselves
Our people are way too dumb for that. Kids don't even want to graduate high school anymore.
@@iii___iii how tf is that racist
@@iii___iii nahhh bruh I'll take you to downtown LA or SD and show you plenty of young "asians" on the street up to no good. It isn't about capability, it's about CULTURE. And yes, the chinese education system produces enough talent to be exported into the higher echelon internationally.
@@iii___iii Plenty of ghettoass asians just like every other demo. YOU'RE the one sounding racist now bro
Stop Asian hate
So you guys pretty much alerted him and gave him a chance to leave ?
When will usa ever learn
Wow yeah the same thing happened to me when I worked for McDonald’s and Burger King at the same time 😂my manager was like how do they make the fries bro 😂
This is reported like something new. I feel like any valuable source code from US companies (or even most government organizations) is incredibly easy to steal if you are an employee. I'm sure foreign governments/companies have 98% of everything already. Over half of software engineers in the US are foreign born or 2nd generation. And you aren't allowed to question anyone's intentions or loyalty in the US for obvious reasons. Companies spend years and billions of dollars developing software that can be stolen within minutes.
You are completely wrong. SDE projects are complex by nature, any single project from any team would have 10-100 different files to even build and run on the dedicated server. The actual functional "product" that can even slightly function would rely on 10-100 of these projects to even begin running. So the only people who can even know which files to steal are people who organize and understand the entire scale of the project, and these people are usually Senior level SDE who have 5-10 years of experience (and it has to be within the same company because they have too many techs).
Sit on that thought for a minute. You have to work intensively in a competetive field at rapidly changing FAANG companies for 5-10 years, to even be able to understand what you should steal.
Secondly, all of their computers that have connectivity are pre-vetted and airtight. Most of the time your computer is issued by the company, whose IT department has 100% control and knoweledge over your access, and you will not be-able to unlock it when disconnected from company network. You may use one of your own laptop, but you have to inject it with the company built backdoors that they would have 100% control over it too.
Then, each project, each equipment that is related to the project, they are all guarded by specific Access & Control logics--One would have to take a college level computer security class for at least one month to even undertand how tight these things are. Simply put, you have to apply for 10 different access and authentications to even start working at these companies, and all those access can be turned off once your project is done.
It is just not possible for most low level SDEs to steal these techs. The person in question is a person who is capable of being a CTO. His case is uniquely coincidential, meaning he has the tech knowledge background that most of normal SDEs would not have in a life time, he has a specific authentication&authorization from within Apple to be able to see those files, and these access are not turned off when he left the company. (they usually are turned off automatically, following the leaving process) He was also caught, but was able to flee before the investigation process are concluded.
I understand that you would "feel like" that these companies are dealing with a lot of these cases every year, and they do, and most of the time they are very secure, because they are very good at what they do, and they also steal from each other from time to time--because that is just how the free market works.
Why so upset? The West has been been stealing and plundering the rest of the world for centuries.
@@oddsparksmurfThis is exaggerated....
"They won't know what to steal"...just steal the entire source, no? Let the techs in your home country figure it out later.
"You can't even access your computer off of the network"...my partner works in defense and has a security clearance, and this isn't even true for her, much less a less secure job. How in the world would everyone be working from home if this was true?
Yes, not everyone has access to the source, but you don't have to be some kind of superhuman to be working on the actual code. You're making it sound like being a mid level programmer is an Olympic feat...it's really not. Plenty of people work these jobs. Plenty of those people are foreign nationals. I don't know why you figure they have to be "low level SDEs", China has plenty of high level talent to send over here.
If the close imitation of US technologies by China is any indication, I would guess this happens pretty frequently. My partner is certainly in a position to steal the code from her job, and she's been there for 6 years...and again, this is a brand-name defense contractor, and she's on a secret clearance. In fact, they had this exact thing happen at their company this year, if I recall. The guy just brought his company computer back to his home country, and they had the stuff off of it before it was realized what had happened. You can take stuff off the machines, it's not like they are blocked from transferring and using files in some way, you seem to be implying that they are.
................well I hate to say it but we could have done better
This is what happens when US companies invest in outsourcing. P.S they’ll never find this guy and china won’t divulge his whereabouts.
They are not "investing." They are saving money. These visa workers from India and China are paid less than US citizens. That's why these tech companies will bring them in. If anything, why don't these companies prioritize hiring direct US allies such as workers from Korea and Japan? We know both India and China are competing with us economically on a huge level yet they decide to hire these workers that directly compete with us.
@@JoelErway-pq9ij Not true at all, they get pay same as US person based on location, problem is simply not enough graduate with stem degrees with master and phd coming out of US system to fill those jobs. that is a fact. Only 20% of high school graduates are interested or have the course work to take stem fields in college. It gets worst as very few Americans are looking to spend 6 extra years of studies to fill this jobs. India and China just have a cultural advantage of having kids from early age study hard, or you can say force by parents to prepare early for this jobs. Korea and Japan have better quality of life than US is not as attractive for them , they are also hired just not as much. We got India and China best minds here so this is not a one way street. Instead of force them up with h1B long processing times and kick them out, we need to help them instead to stay with US citizenship and have them forfeit their own citizenship.
Yeah as a tech dude they'll NEVER catch him, and NEVER stop this sort of thing.
Sry If this is a stupid question, but why do you say that?
@@ChrisBTrappiN it's cause someone willing to take this risk to just glean source code, and then to have the where with all to then get a ticket out of San Fran to China has taken steps (or knows how) to minimize the chances of being caught. Between my ex-gf who "borrowed" money from me and other people (and then went zero-dark thirty) it's a tie who's going to be harder to catch (and then bring to justice).
@@ChrisBTrappiN they dont know what they're talking about. its the internet, anyone can make absolute statements with no real clue.
@@ChrisBTrappiN tech corps need educated labor without liberal entitlement, so they hire international workers who only care about the pays and not the politics. International contractors will cost them more money, but they have less benefits, take less day-offs, and they don’t care about making political changes to the system. The workers can give secrets to companies that are not even on their employers’ radar for extra payouts and also backup opportunities if the tech corp cuts their contracts, which happens all the time. Valuable secrets can also buy protection from international governments, especially with China and Russia. Look at how Russia protects Snowden even though he’s American. This is why these things are impossible to stop
China isn't called the world's biggest Xerox machine for no reason. LOL
It’s so sad this is happening however it’s also happening in google Microsoft and almost every major tech company. The Chinese government has been recruiting for years while the government focused on social media antics
This is what you get for hiring foreigners hahah
C.C.P country
our policians just let them pass by
You know MS is operating in china and is hiring chinese hahahahah
It's not sad. They refuse to hire Americans in favor of cheap Asians. They had it coming.
Shameful. If I were running a company I would never hire someone who makes a career by stealing.
But thats a very valuable information he stole from Apple. So competing companies would want that info.
@@impulsiveurge5837 Valuable they have nothing Musk software is valuable no one has matched it yet and will not.He is 15 years ahead of the rest of the auto industry.
@@rickhammond2473 you have no clue. electric car manufacturers are real close, if not getting better than Tesla very soon.
White people Stole Land from Native American.... Karma😂😂
@@doc-vg9lq Let me know when they are close until then I will enjoy Tesla dominating and my stock soar and then pass Apple as the largest company in the world that will be in 4-5 years time.
Don't act surprised!
Stop hiring these spies
Exactly
Ask the univeristies 1st, they seem to still be very happily receiving all the tuition fees and donations from China.
Keeping the stereotype alive…
There's truth to all stereotypes.
@@cocofluff so far right whites are really racist then 😁.
Hire Taiwanese, not Chinese !!!
Chinese steal to copy from US? 😮 you don’t say 😂
Stole from Apple? Ironic...Steve Jobs stole from Steve Wozniak...
@@vgrepairs ok, then that makes this fine then. All fair game am I right?
@@Espi.84 usa stole space stuff from soviet union is that bad too ?
@@Espi.84 yup
Why was he not locked up IMMEDIATELY?
he's not black
Because it’s not espionage. It’s Apple, a company not related to the US government.
@@kaycampbell364 LOL!!!😂😂 💯 percent facts! Well said my friend.
This dude is going to take the same route as Snowden and never come back.
Hire US citizens….
Ask them to get educated first.
@@dvo66 But many of them are?
@@j.a.3138 not really, in field of ai and ml, I’ve mostly seen Asians, Americans who are educated does get the job easily for these roles
Now you can stop wondering why China has excel so fast in the last 15 years in auto tech, space, defence and what not. America takes 50-100 years to achieved all these. Too bad, major damages has been done.
Take a look at the Russian space shuttle. About as exact a copy of the US space shuttle as you could get.
Space, lol!!! Went to the moon in 69 but still can’t go back..
@@thepostofficeprince8819 Because the Democrats defund NASA. I know if I had to go to space, I would want it to be on a US designed and constructed vehicle. And who do you think created the international space station that is benefitting so many other countries that contributed nothing? LOLOLOL
every country steals the teachnonogy of other countires. Look up where gunpowder, paper, and the first typing/print system comes from?
@@qj5978 usa copied from russia you know that
He completed his mission and will be rewarded handsomely by the Chinese government.
They always do that. I have worked with Chinese companies their motto is get the system fast and get learned by a Chinese employee.
you dont even have to be an employee to steal information i can simply br a janitor and have a hidden flashdrive or pineapple or take pictures with my phone.........................
How did he get on a plane after getting raided while at home?
I don’t believe anyone who owns a house in Mountain View CA would ever leave that multimillion dollar house. Unless, he doesn’t really own it.
Are you crazy? If you're working for the XiXiPi, you don't own *anything*. I'm not even fuggin' around here, either; NOTHING.
Every American and every citizen of Earth needs to get a 3-6 hour education on XiXiPi. The clock is ticking.
#2049
#GlobalDomination
CCP probably bought it for him.
It looks like he rented an apartment
i don’t think it was a house though, looks like an apartment. a pretty rundown apartment too-but expensive in silicon valley nonetheless.
And if he’s on a visa, he probably isn’t making the same salary as his American citizen counterparts. Tech people on visas in the US are at the mercy of tech companies that will sponsor them. Lower pay is the name of the game.
‘Apple is an American company.’
‘Apple is a Chinese company.’
Both statements are true
They both work together. That why American have no right to complain.
@@CoolNumber1 Chinese assemble their parts, easy work. USA designed apple from the ground up
You can say the same for Tesla
Create US products in America.
Having devices manufactured in China doesn’t make it a Chinese company. SAMSUNG is Chinese.
Cheap five volt electronic gadgets are manufactured in China nine times out of ten. The US built and tooled their early factories in China btw.
.. certain things are produced best in certain places. That’s just how the world works
I can't believe he didn't have police watching him after search warrant especially that he was a flight risk
Moral of the story: Never hire Chinese employee for secretive high value project. You know what happens next.
Apple let’s employees download the entire source code and store it on their personal computers? This doesn’t sounds suspicious at all. Trillion dollar level company doesn’t have a security scanning capability.
Also, working for a similar industry international firm is nothing wrong. Neither is working two jobs at the same time.
They actually don't I used to work for Apple he would've stole in secret and btw they check all phones and block signals in certain floors. He would've stole it via USB or hard drive but I would say he's an advanced hacker because they have numerous firewalls and alerts.
Apple didn't even sue the guy or even cared much...Are DOJ charging the guy on apples behalf?
"Equal opportunity employment" was too easy 😂
@Fleece Warrior Johnson Sure it is.
Asians are not considered a minority in the tech industry
As a person from HK. I can assure you this is just tip of an iceberg. This is just how this country works, they have people everywhere.
Wait, they raided his house, he was at home, and he still managed to get onto a plane to China? Bruh.
I know. They think we are dumb believing this crap 🤣🤣🤣
There are a lot of them, both in private and public sectors. Companies like Apple deserve it. Stupid question to ask if China will extradite him. They encourage it. There's even a policy behind it.
Prison for life.
The weather balloon was just the beginning.
how about the containable virus 😅
USA think he will give himself up jajajajaja
Shocking - who could know?
All this is due to our Achilles heel. Greed and ultimate dollar
His apartment building is shockingly pedestrian for someone who was a top level Apple employee. If that wasn't his hideout, and he really lived there, I'm shocked -- maybe that's why he is trading secrets.
It's California. That apartment was probably close to 3k a month for rent.
He wasn't a top level employee either. Maybe mid-level...
He was probably making in the low to mid 100ks.
After taxes probably about 10k a month.
It’s cali, that’s not really saying much. Rent crazy high there
@@emilegriffith1473 How does a mid-level worker have complete access to an entire project's source code? That makes no sense. It is more likely he was given a small project with limited resources and few people working on it.
@@nickl5658 is that a fact? That he had access to the entire source code?
If so, a mid-level employee is still pretty high up. Top-level employees are like the execs and vps... This dude sounds like he might have been the lead on projects but wasn't some big boss
@@nickl5658 ull be surprised. Lots of mid level employees have access to high level data if its part of their job.
Just don't hire chinese.
I' not surprised at all to hear this information. It happened many times in the past and still..... again and again. It seems the high-tech companies do little bit to stop it!
I feel like Chinese citizens shouldn't have any kind of clearance in high tech or military tech or even any research for that matter I know this is definitely not the first time it happenes
Good luck enforcing it. They’re all in bed with universities
You gotta be a serious smooth brain to be hiring Chinese into high level positions in big tech companies and sensitive info.
Thats what China does.
As a fellow Chinese STEM graduate seeking work in the US, it's disheartening to see how the actions of a few individuals can negatively impact the reputation of the majority. It's frustrating to see fellow countrymen betray their own companies and countries for their own selfish gains. Sometimes, it makes me regret being born and raised in China. However, it's important to remember that theft of trade secrets is not only unethical but also illegal. Hopefully, justice will be served, and Wang's behavior should serve as a cautionary tale to anyone thinking of doing something similar.
Y’all should never be trusted at all
Yes it’s illegal but will China do anything stop it? If anything it’s apart of their plan to gain these secrets and I’m sure he was paid handsomely by the powers that be
you are definitely not Chinese from your language . So obvious.
Chinese do not envy going to US . ONly Indians envy and work their entire school days to go to US.
@@thecoffeemaker7444 🤣🤣🤣 one thing is clear you won't be able to bully and destroy China as you guys have done to Islam the last 3 decades. China will conquer you wether you like it or not it's just a matter of time
For that to happen the US and China would have to sign a extradition treaty.
This type of crime should be punishable with death penalty. It’s the only deterrent these cowards will ever understand.
Too extreme.
They had him in their hands but believed him when he said he had no plans to leave the country! They could have at least taken his passport!
Let’s find his family & relatives .
Remember, Apple chooses to be a Chinese company by locating their manufacturing in China and India.
Do you know localisation? Guess how much shipping cost other side of the world?
@@rodrozil6544 Except that's not why Apple has their manufacturing plants in Zhengzhou: it's because of lax labour laws in China and the cheap exchange rate. Apple literally has underpaid child labour assembling iPhones just so they can maximize profits for Apple shareholders and C-level execs, a.k.a. exploitation of child labour. Imagine if Apple cared as much about the fate of Chinese children, or forced slave labour of Uyghur Muslim people in China, as they do about their precious "trade secrets".
"Apple discovered that Suyin Electronics, one of its Chinese-based suppliers, relied on child labor on multiple occasions, but still took three years to fully cut ties, The Information reported on Thursday.
Ten former members of Apple's supplier responsibility team told The Information the company has refused or has been slow to stop doing business with suppliers that repeatedly violate its labor policies when doing so would hurt its profits.
Apple has faced intense criticism recently amid reports that it relies on forced Uyghur labor and protests over poor working conditions and wage theft by workers that make its products."
www.businessinsider.com/apple-knowingly-used-child-labor-supplier-3-years-cut-costs-2020-12
"Several Apple suppliers may have used forced labor in China, according to The Information. Working with two human rights groups, the publication identified seven companies that supplied products or services to Apple and supported forced labor programs, according to statements made by the Chinese government. The programs target the country’s Muslim minority population, particularly Uyghurs living in Xinjiang.
Six of the seven suppliers were said to participate in work programs operated by the Chinese government, The Information reports, which human rights groups describe as frequently offering cover for forced labor. Workers can be jailed for refusing to join the work programs, the report says, and those enrolled in the programs are often moved far from their homes.
One of the suppliers operated in Xinjiang, the region of China predominantly populated by Uyghurs and where the most egregious human rights violations have reportedly taken place."
www.theverge.com/2021/5/10/22428899/apple-suppliers-china-uyghur-forced-labor-report
Apple bases their manufacturing in China, because the shareholders want their dividends, and North American consumers want iPhones (relatively) cheap. Let's face it, iPhones would cost way more if manufactured in North America, because unlike China, in the US the workers actually are allowed to unionize and have hard-won labour laws that ban(ned) child labour, even if the Republicans are desperately trying to rollback those laws against child labour, as evidenced by the number of children found working at McDonalds. And higher labour costs means less profits for Apple. It's not because Apple cares about the costs of shipping iPhones, or they'd build multiple manufacturing bases on every continent to cut down on shipping (which would actually be better for the environment and better for labour).
www.cnbc.com/2023/05/03/mcdonalds-franchisees-fined-over-child-labor-law-violations.html
"Earlier this week Republican state lawmakers in Wisconsin circulated a new bill that would allow workers as young as 14 years old to serve alcohol in bars and restaurants, down from the state’s current age minimum of 18 years old. The legislative proposal “creates a simple solution” to workforce staffing issues, said the Republican bill sponsors in a memo they circulated to colleagues on Monday.
Wisconsin is not the only state looking to loosen labor laws affecting minors, and over the last few months there have been been Republican-led bills in states like Arkansas, Ohio, and Iowa aimed at making it easier for teenagers to work in more jobs and for more hours in the day. Some labor experts say the proposed changes pose little threat to workplace safety, but they’ve overlapped with shocking exposés in the New York Times and Washington Post that uncovered exploited migrant children working illegally in American jobs. On Tuesday, the US Labor Department announced it had found two 10-year-olds working at a McDonald’s in Louisville, Kentucky, sometimes until 2 am.
As the Wisconsin lawmakers suggested, these new bills are partly a reaction to the competitive labor market and struggles businesses have been facing to fill open positions. But they’re also rooted in longstanding conservative opposition to workplace regulation, and some labor advocates worry they’re just the opening salvo to a broader attack on government safety rules."
www.vox.com/policy/2023/5/3/23702464/child-labor-laws-youth-migrants-work-shortage
India is not China 😂
Horrible
US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin: Member of the board of Directors for Raytheon. " As of October 2020, his Raytheon stock holdings were worth roughly $500,000 and his compensation, including stock, totaled $2.7 million"
China has a long practice of sending high school graduates here for college and then graduate school. With the expectation that they will get a job in the tech or defense industry and have access to classified material. China has a very patient approach to espionage. And will invest decades in developing an asset here. The US plays checkers when it comes to intelligence and China has been playing chess for decades.
That's because the US doesnt need to steal tech, it innovates. Big difference.
chinese parents send their high school graduates here because they think that it’ll be a better education, not to get classified info….
Not all Chinese students are spies, but China will send students here to get jobs for both classified information and industrial espionage. Foreign born engineers should never have access to sensitive information.
Shame
Tech industry needs to hire more Americans.
did you know that in 2021 there were around 140k student graduated from STEM in the US, but only 14% of them were americans.
- What did you do to test that code, Larry?
- I prayed to jeebus for no bugs.
that is a flawed idea. Everyone person Americans included can be bought by money and greed.
The problem is our universities.
Congress and US government should take action and coordinate with the European Union and the UK and bar that Chinese company from entering the US, European and UK market with any products associated with the IP theft unless the Chinese company comes forward and takes accountability and the thief has been taken to a US court.
Right after the Indian government takes responsibility for the idiots in New Delhi that keep calling me trying to scam me.
That company will simply close and startup under a new name. This is state sanctioned economic espionage I'm sure.
Stop the xenophobic nonsense
@@gijohns7860 Hahaha so according to you, we should allow Chinese CCP communist sponsored technology spying?
@@gijohns7860 As someone who is married to a person originating from China, I find your comment funny. Irrelevant. And funny. Thank you for coming out.
Well good luck lol. This is what you get for cheaper labor for max profits. Bringing back the factories and employments to the state may well prevent or reduce.
Hilarious. Incomprehensible incompetence on behalf of Apple.
Department of cybersecurity and compliance should be held accountable for this. Working on sensitive projects should be in secure facility where engineers have no access to phones. And the facility should be monitored 24h .
Wonder how much money he received for this technology😁
awww so nice of them to let him leave
Why are people surprised that this happened. We need to develop our own talent to fill jobs and eliminate the H1B Visa program to address any further risks like this situation. Greed is an awful thing.
Let's be honest. Alot of America's great entrepreneurs actually came here on H1B's. Elon Musk came on an H1B.
So it's a delicate balancing act.
that's impossibru, american work ethics have been on the decline for over half a century now. there's a reason why that program is very attractive to american corpos.
Trump cracked down on Chinese spying and birth tourism. Biden undid most of it because it's "racist" to investigate Chinese people. It's not Mexicans stealing tech for China. Common sense.
You are an !d!ot to suggest this, AMERICA is currently not even in The Top 30 of most intelligent people academically speaking in numerous fields from Math and Science.
A LOT of smart people in America come from foreign countries cuz America pays better and has actual tech companies ahead of other countries.
Losing these people is asking FOREIGN companies to keep them for themselves. This is NOT a good strategy if you want America to be ahead in the technology space.
Maybe work on bettering Schools instead spreading lies on the News and ignoring the facts. Maybe lets build a curriculum around Science and not Religious fanatics and maybe we can start getting more smart people to contribute to the society and not rely in foreign geniuses.
H1B visa are extremely important. It allows people from all over the world with extraordinary talent to work for top U.S. companies.
What Apple should have done is ran an extensive background check on the guy
These American tech companies deserve this for trying to increase profits by hiring foreign country engineers with H1B visas instead of American engineers. What did they think these people were going to do with the knowledge they had locked in their heads after they quit? Forget it all or take it home - and when it comes to the Chinese, is that even a question?
You're stereotyped Chinese. Not all Chinese are the same. Just like all people and ethnicities are not the same. Some Chinese stayed and built a successful business here.
@@talkinghand122 I sure did. Notice the word you used when complaining to me. You used “some” and chose not to use “many or most” If some do negative things but most don’t, throwing a stereotype amplifying that negativity toward the larger group would be wrong. The vice versa is usually quite accurate. Sorry if that bothers you.
@@talkinghand122 Specifically, I was talking about Chinese H1B visa engineers. You’d be very hard pressed to prove what I said is inaccurate..
@Jim K you're correct to point that out. It was my mistake to use the word in that context. In general, most people are good, except for a small or "some" that are bad. You're also correct on H1B visas. The majority came here for other reasons.
@@talkinghand122 Exactly - thank you. 🍻
This is what happens when you don’t invest in your own population to grow Stem talent, and your constantly outsourcing tech jobs.. This has always been a problem .
That's why instead of companies begging for more immigrants to fill roles, they should offer a little more money to give the job to American workers. I can't even get tech support now because they hire these Indians that speak another language.
Not enough Americans who can do much of the high level software work.
@@hotchicsf Trust me, there are a lot. But these companies are so greedy and would rather undercut Americans by hiring foreigners for cheap labor
But americans are not they equipped with knowledge necessary for this work and an American would end up protesting for a higher salary
@@upendo.3570 The claim that Americans are not equipped is false. Americans, including both white and black citizens, were instrumental in the historic achievement of sending a man to the moon. Moreover, America played a significant role in China's development from a country unable to feed its population to the economic powerhouse it is today. I totally disagree with your comments.
@@upendo.3570 that’s SO ridiculous, i’m laughing really hard right now. I’m a university student from silicon valley and most people here become engineers at apple, google, nvidia, and many more high tech companies. many asians, of course, (both immigrant and american born) but also a lot of white americans. they all go to university (undergrad or grad, masters, ) around the area mostly-such as in the UCs-REGARDLESS OF RACE. they receive the same education. why are you trying to argue that chinese people are more capable of being engineers? it’s not anything special.
As a Chinese I am ashamed on this guy, and I beg US government should never allow any Chinese passport holder study technology or work in high tech companies in this country.
Thief scum comes in all forms
Ban foreign employees
They should be spanked
I agree
And worsen the economy
National labs need to take note
This cannot be stopped because STEM professionals are mostly hired from outside the country. For example, if you are leading a project and another company offers you a significant bonus or triple your current salary, how could you refuse that? Everybody works for money. If not for money, then why do you work? This is an open market where you have to navigate the advantages and disadvantages that come with it.
Nice, I thought we're all intelligent enough to notice or at least be vigilant not vulnerable. He's long gone and it's going to take God to find him when he's ready.
Yet they will continue to hire others like him