A Blacksmith's Introduction to Steel Types and Quality
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- Опубликовано: 13 июн 2024
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As you can imagine a blacksmith knows a thing or two about the material he works with, so in this videos Adam gives some pointers about different grades of steel, like a beginner's guide if you will.
If you're wondering about the main differences between high carbon and stainless steel, or which hardness on the Rockwell C scale (HRC) is most suitable for what kind of sword, this video is for you.
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Loved this. Straight simple answers. No beating around the bush, some long history lesson everyone knows, and no excessive use of technical terms. You quickly explained what they meant and what it did. Thanks for uploading this!
Same
"Once upon a time" : >
just kidding
@@Leftyotism hehe :3
Red plaid = woodworker, lumberjack
Blue plaid = metalworker, smith
Green Plaid = Outdoorsman guide
LMAO I'm a blacksmith, just looked down. Legit wearing a blue plaid shirt today, now that is funny.
@@cartercustoms4600 Of course. You adhere to the rule. How else are people gonna recognize you?! ;-)
@@Schmidt54 lol I didn't even know that was a rule. I like the color blue, I also like button up shirts. Where I live that leaves me with plaid as the only option. :D
@@cartercustoms4600 Well, me too, I got 3 blue plaid shirts and I never worked with metal. So I am an impostor, only protected by the anonymity of the internet. ;-)
Skyforge Steel, of course!
Gods be praised
Best steel in all of skyrim
May Kodlak Whitemane watch over us
Someone stole my sweet roll but I tracked them down and beheaded them with my skyforge steel axe
@@andrewp8284 and threw them in the Skyforge?
Gold is for the mistress, silver for the maid
Copper for the craftsman, cunning at his trade.
"Good!" said the Baron, sitting in his hall,
"But Iron, Cold Iron, is master of them all."
J.T iron is best element
Irons not great of course there are ferrous metals that are great but just iron is shit.
Where does that come from?
@@PlanetHell67 I think it's from the medieval period. Honestly, though, I can't remember.
@@TheWoodsmanMilling holy shit 2yrs ago and u recommented bravo 🙌🏼
Whatever you need. by Ysmir if it's simple and strong, I can forge it.
I need 600 iron daggers.
@@HisaoNakaii i need 6000 LEAD daggers
• I need Skyforge Steel Greatsword.
• Are you a companion ?
*hands you a s125v billet on the table*
A swordsman and a blacksmith sit down to make a video...
That sounds like the beginning of a joke tbh...
As underrated as it goes
Could be a porno if you ask me
What could the punchline be?
Answer: they both said fuck that and went to the pub!
😂
A swordsman and a blacksmith sit down to make a video
Swordman says he's a metal fan
Blacksmith asks "which one?"
*BA DUM TSSS*
A swordsman and a blacksmith sit down to make a video
Blacksmith says to the swordsman "Wow, you're looking quite sharp"
*BA DUM TSSS*
C: "The riddle... of steel."
TD: "Yes! You know what it is don't you boy. Shall I tell you? It's the least I can do. Steel isn't strong boy, flesh is stronger! Look around you. There, on the rocks; that beautiful girl. Come to me my child... That is strength boy! That is power! What is steel compared to the hand that wields it? Look at the strength in your body, the desire in your heart, I gave you this! Such a waste. Contemplate this on the tree of woe. Crucify him!"
Was that from Conan the barbarian?
@@rachelflamestoker7129 it indeed is.
Thanks for quoting one of my favorite scenes my dude
Been a while since I watched that movie...
Huh. Never thought id see a conan quote
You can’t go wrong with 5160 spring steel. The stuff’s pretty much indestructible. It will always spring back to true, hence the name spring steel. Just make sure to keep a wire brush handy as it will rust if not oiled regularly.
Is 5160 spring steel number one or are there any other that can top it?
I don’t wanna be the Ackchyually guy, but spring steel is more corrosion resistant than most, other than stainless. Spring steel needs little to almost no maintenance.
@@someonenotfunny9823 actually.... lol. spring steel requires maintenance dude-know why coil springs are all coated? because spring steel rusts. "spring steel" only means that the steel has sufficient carbon content where it can be hardened and then tempered into a spring. its not more complex than that.
@@fettmaneiii4439 While you are correct in that it requires maintenance, it does require much less maintenance than that of other steels, particularly when comparing it to high carbon steels. What also sets it apart from the competition is its combination of manganese, sulfur and silicone content, giving it its unique properties which allow it to be called spring steel in the first place. Spring steel is also used in aircraft landing gear and other heavy duty, long lasting equipment, and its used there for a reason, its why they don't just coat and temper the other metals in its place. Not to say that spring steel is the best katana metal, it just usually fits the prerequisites of durability of what most people want from their longer blades, especially with the added bonus of chromium on the 5160 variant of spring steel, although a little rarer for swordsmiths however. It is a little more complicated than you give credit i'm afraid.
6150 better cause it has vanadium in it
I love these kind of videos
Our daddy taught us not to be ashamed of our steels
Especially since they're of such a good carbon content and all
Yeah, I see that. Your daddy gave ya good advice.
It gets bigger when I hammer it.
Oh shit I'm sorry
@@ARTEMISXIX MMMMMmmmmm~
Well my daddy taught me a few things too like uuh, how not to break the hammer by using someone else's mouth.
If they were to touch their ponytails the energy that would come from it would destroy the universe
Lol
Or just get tangled which wud b just as awesome 😏
This was pretty useful for me because I watch a lot of your videos where you just briefly mention the type of steel of the knife, sword, whatever you're reviewing and I'm really a very casual fan, I'm not really interested in buying or using these weapons, and I wasn't curious enough to research this stuff for myself but it's still useful to know.
Krystof Dayne “Casual fan... not interested in buying… not interested in using… Not curious enough to research…“
I don’t think “useful to know“ means what you think it means 🤔
@@bradl8887 Well, first of all, it can still be useful knowledge in the sense that I can use it to understand his videos better. But second of all, and more importantly, piss of about semantics here, honestly. Maybe "useful" is not the exact right term I wanted to use here but after all, English is only my fourth language... So I'm guessing, and this is an assumption, that you're kinda ticked off by the mere existence of the sort of casuals fans like myself, although I would guess people like myself are not an unsubstantial part of Skall's subscriber base. If that's not the case, you're actually only ticked off because of semantics. Either way, to reiterate, piss off.
As a extremely noob want to be blacksmith/bladesmith I found both the videos with Adam to be really informative and helpful. Thanks you both for sharing.
These are the sorts of videos I like seeing. They help buyers navigate the dire straights of quality versus budget. Awesome job!
Adam's got a very pleasant voice
Are you royalty
He speak fast lol i had a bit of trouble to follow along but English is not my base language. But i like the way he seem passionate about what's he's talking about
I love this chatting with Adam. More of that. He is an awesome guest and his knowledge is great supplement to your channel 💪😎
Excellent video, really goes to show how a blacksmith is a materials scientist. Thank you for this.
Thanks for yet another awesome video Skall!!! While I am no blacksmith, I am actually able to follow your rather technical discussion and already understand a good deal of what you discussed. :) My modern take on a wakizashi has an extended grip allowing me to use two hands for better control in my old age. I have my 1095 KaBar at roughly 57 rockwell with the extended 9" blade and composite handle for most hard use cutting tasks. It can cut through a steel belted radial tire and after a trip to the strop is still shaving sharp. I've had it several years and never needed to sharpen, only strop it. Then I have a 7cr17 MoV bladed stainless bowie that I tend to use in the kitchen even though I bought it for field food prep. It's somewhere in the low to mid 50's rockwell. I have my 'old faithful' Buck 119 pattern in 420 stainless. The 420 requires the most sharpening maintenance but is also the easiest blade to resharpen. Then there's my Kukri that gets most of it's use chipping up Mesquite branches into little bits to add to my gas grill for that little extra Mesquite flavor. the Windlass ad said 'high carbon steel' but did not give the specs. I would guess it falls somewhere in the 1070 to 1085 range as it's cut more Mesquite branches than I can count and that bastard is still shaving sharp! Most of my general purpose blades are 440 stainless, AUS-8, 7cr17 or better. I've been looking at some new blades in D-2 tool steel which I didn't hear either of you mention. I have no practical experience using D-2 so I was hoping to hear more about it. Maybe next time. :) I heard you mention differential hardening which I used to think was just for katana swords. However, I've seen quite a few videos of smiths using clay binding and other methods of differential heat treat and it looks hard to do but has rewarding results. In fact, I think if I were to ever spend more than $100 on a blade it would be differentially heat treated rather than the hard steel wrapped and forge welded in mild steel San Mai technigue. Any input you have on these thoughts are greatly appreciated. Thanks again! :)
I was really looking for a video like this,thanks.
Love this video, tons of good information for aspiring weapon smiths. Glad to hear there is a single go to type of steel for almost any project.
finally asked for this during a live stream and have been waiting since thx for listening to your community and being a good content creator
This is the kind of content i come for to this channel. Thanks, both of you, quality stuff.
The steel Skall’s balls are made of
he have two pommels as balls
pommel steel
@@mostcomplicatedman8115 bruh, made my day haha
@@mostcomplicatedman8115 Sheesh, wouldnt smash
@@mostcomplicatedman8115 so he ends people rightly with a teabag?
Quality talk with clearly an expert! Awesome
I love that anytime I search swords, daggers, axes basically any old melee weapons, RUclips and Google always shows me your videos first.
This one video taught me more about steel than I've ever known.
Please have Adam back for future videos.
4:50 I love that he assumes I've been isekaid and not just fing around in the back yard.
These videos are fantastic! Could listen to him talk for hours
Thanks for making this video! I like super high carbide knife steels, so seeing a swordsmith explain their priorities when selecting steel is a different world for me. I also like the anecdote about historical steel vs modern steel.
A very enjoyable video. I could have easily listened to Adam talk for an hour more.
Excellent info! Really useful as I delve into sword collecting.
The kind of steel that ends them rightly.
I tried to end myself rightly last night.
What about making some pommels then melting them to make a pommel sword that would be the sword that have been ended rightly.
@@purplehaze2358 glad to see you failed and are still amongst the living.
@@draxxsklounst6595 *N O T F O R L O N G*
@@purplehaze2358 well if you see Tom Petty, tell him I said hi.
I was expecting worse of an explanation. Pleasantly surprised for a quick overview.
thx for highlighting this in the community today
Very good video. I knew some of this but I did learn. Thanks.
Thanks for the info! Helped me make a decision on a sword for my son.
Thanka :D Topic was very interesting and it is nice to know a bit about this beautiful art, the past and the present.
Very nice and handled different opinions and facts and I appreciate this...thank you
Super informative video guys thanks for sharing
GREAT EXPLANATORY VIDEO !!!
The one video of the many I've seen that does not go into "steel voodoo" and superstition...straight facts from the get go...with the right added visuals and demo item...this would be the golden standard...TYVM!!! very informative no hype!!!
5160 spring steel is my absolute favorite for large choppers and medium sized swords. It's affordable and very, very tough.
Excellent video, thank you guys
Awesome and informative video
thank you for this video. I got to learn something new.
No mention of the glorious 420 J2, comprised of roughly 40% chromium, 40% fingernail polish and 20% emo teenager tears when they realise their fancy new fantasy sword can't really be sharpened.
That sounds _exactly_ like Shad's fantasy 'sword' design!
I rather get INFI steel the toughest steel on the market
@@MrZetor It’s not that it can’t be sharpened, but it will have very poor edge stability if you do sharpen it. Most things can be sharpened if you have the right tools and patience, but not all things are meant to be.
@@GODWITHUS0712 i will stick to Crucible steel.
420j could make a good steel if heat treated correctly.
Wonderful video, very very interesting!
Great video guys I’m a metallurgist and your right about the steels your talking about , I love 5160 Steel and 9260 steel .
How would you properly temper 1095 for say a battle ready gladius style blade 18" or so
It was great to hear from Adam. I'm hoping to better understand steel when used for hand tools, such as axe and adze.
You guys really are on the same wavelengh. You even finish each othe sentences. That must be the love of swords.
More content like this please!
Thank you good sirs. This video was a godsend.
I was looking for a video like this! Damn! Thanks Skall
Yes thank you!!!! Finally, I knew I wasnt wrong. And that's why 5160 has always been my favorite steel. Great video, highly informative. And extremely helpful. 100 percent agree with everything U guys said. cant beat affordable, and highly durable well forged 5160. It is the best value for your money. since I bought my darksword medieval knight bastard sword last year, and seen a tfw weapon in action, I have been so impressed with 5160 steel. Short story-
I made mistake and bought 4 swords from darksword armory website. and I paid extra for sharpening services from darksword armory website also. Spent a ton of money and when the 1st 2 came in, I sent ranting email, only For them to tell me it past the paper test hahaha, anyway long story short, I had to re sharpen all 4 swords I ordered from darksword, by myself. Scratched my favorite one,the bastard, made it too sharp, but did very well on other 3. that steel though. holy crap it took forever with accusharp, and sandpaper but I sharpened all 4(bastard, g.messer,waylander,14 century medieval knights sword-wide blade with profile tapering to a more acute tip has fuller length 3/4 of the blade) to a razor sharp edge with no scratches. Cant believe I was able to do that without vice grip and without scratching them.
but after I sharpened that sword properly, it has been my favorite sword I own. I have accidentally smacked against solid wood posts many times, and concrete, dropped it so many times, I have intentionally and unintentionally beat the hell out of that sword for a year and, nothing. That 5160 Blade absorbs shock, resists corrosion and holds its edge like no other blade I own. Love 5160. Love darksword blades(as long as they're sharpened from Kult of athena)
I reccomend traditional Filipino weapons of course with the 5160/d2 tool steel mix. Which is the best mix I've seen yet for the price. D2 is the Same steel on my kleins journey linemen pliers(im electrician). So u will be satisfied 5160/d2 tfw weapon.
I reccomend both tfw qnd dsa(from koa) for beautiful high quality "affordable" blades that will last forever. Just make sure to order darksword swords from kult of Athena, never order sword off darksword website. Never order their sharpening services. Just look at website for products,then leave website and go over to kult of athena to check for darksword sword availability.
I had to find that out the hard way. Took me 5 purchases and many angry emails to darksword before I realized they're not gonna change the quality of sharpening services and go to k.o.a
Thank you for this information
he was sooo nervous and yet he did a great job
Good video. Maybe a follow up some time dealing with some of the more specific-use steels like tool steels and what-not? Some of them can make awesome swords.
Lol, how did I miss this one! I love steel! 🥰
I have read way too much about all kinds of knife-steels. 😅
I suddenly feel thrown back to job training... but informative video again!
Really interesting some great information.
Great video!
I like tool steel, and spring steel. Keep in mind, I don't even own a set of Fullers any more, and I never had enough of an operation, or income to buy steel. I worked with what I could get, which ment scrapping. Leaf springs, files, drill bits, and so forth. That's what I always worked with. If you're just getting started, these are great cheap options to Practice with. Get a good set of Fullers first. (Rebar sucks, it doesn't take a decent temper. I know, it's cheap-to-free, but don't use it. Raw iron is better for blades.)
L6 tool steel or 5160 steel? I want to know your opinion please.😇😇😇😶😶
@@Hypersteel-4340 Scrap Steel. That's what I was talking about, for practice. How do you even tell the difference between tool steels, Rockwell test? Whatever you can get your hands on, if you can afford bulk steel, then buy it. It really depends on what you're making.
You’re so goddamn valid Skall :,)) Thank you so much for all this high quality content and providing such amazing knowledge and insight into a subject that you’re passionate about, as are we:) bless yah man.
High Carbon content?
VERY interesting GREAT VID👍🏻
Falchions were for use against lightly armoured opponents. Otherwise, great video! Really interesting stuff!
I was directed here while binging videos om S&W K-frames, as I am planning to buy either a classic 19 or 66. Sometimes the algorithm actually works for you rather than against you, even when it comes to weapon videos.
Smith and Wesson is so much better than Colt !!!!
What about surface treatments on the edge, such as nitriding/cementing?
Thanks Gentlemen. Great info'! Question: I am hooked on T10 clay temper for gorgeous Hamons and general nastiness and 9260 for flex., How are these two steels rate on your list of quality for doing damage? You also made me rethink the 1060 that I have and will now take it to the back yard and damage some tree limbs. Much more affordable.
Really great and informative!! 5160 seems pretty good then…
A Blacksmith I know uses mostly leaf springs for blades,quenched in oil. As far as I've seen it's pretty up there. Many files will slide on it,while it being somewhat flexible, hard to chip,or brake.
Thanks for this, fellas!
Useful informations, trank you für uploading
"I could go on for a while..." at 8m mark. The plight of all blacksmiths. I can't tell you how many people ask a question and I'm like, well I hope you know what your getting yourself into....grab a chair, a drink, and probably a few days worth of food. We are going to be here a while.... Then about 20 minutes later I'm asked to stop because now their head hurts. Steel, so simple, yet so complex. It really is an amazing alloy.
Thank you
This video is pure gold. I just wish that he were talking a little bit slower, cause i had to listen multiple times to get some phrases
Let's have him again for another episode.
To be honest S30V was a huge letdown to me. Sure it stays "sharp" a lot longer but only if you use the word loosely. It loses it's fine razor edge almost immediately so there isn't much of a point going to super high grits when sharpening it. Unless you just want to spend ages polishing it for the looks because it's also one of the hardest steels to sharpen and polish.
I love this, please make more videos about this stuff and more informational things. I love it so much Skall!
Would regularily oiling the blade be feasible for avoiding/reducing rust?
After lots of consideration, I've come to the realization that it really depends on blades geometry and while there are some over all best steels they all have some trade offs that can make one better over the other.
And it gets quite complex. Given there are lots of variables. And depends entirely on if it's spring tempered and hardened or only edge hardened. Intended targets also make use of it.
This is why I love steels like 3V and CruWear. Stupid strong, but also have very good edge retention.
Great video! It would be fun to see what the outcome would be if you went all scientific about it and designed the optimal sword using whatever modern technology and materials are (even remotely) available today.
Very interessting.
Any opinion about MOVA steel for bushcraft knives?
Two questions, really. 1, what's a good way of gauging how good damascus/pattern welded steels like what Alec Steele generally makes are for swords and knives? 2, if I have both kitchen knives and EDC knives, which produces a better edge when used by a newbie; whetstones or belt grinders like the Work Sharp you use?
It's crazy how much steel has progressed in 3 years. Like a sword time maxhine.
Question I watched a program about Maximilian's armourers and the order book that they have, part of the program was about how they heat treated armour plates to order so that they would be vivid shades of blue and red. I'm just curious could an opposing army tell the quality of the armour by how that colour looked or would any heat treated steel create the same colours and levels of irradiances?
Hi Skall
I am a long time fan of your channel and your vodeos have taught me a lot about medieval weapons amd fighting. I am myself looking to get into medieval arms but i am limeted to a small budget (300-400€) and know many people with the same problem. So i wanted to aks you if you could make a series of videos containig 3-5 budget weaposn of each “category“ (1h swords, 2h swords, crossbows,...). You dont need to have personal experience with the weapon i think your general knowledge and judgement would be enough.
Thank you for reading this wether you pick up my request or not.
Greetings from Germany
Juergen Stunz have you looked up HEMA groups on social media? That would be your best bet for help with what you can buy and own in Germany, most people start with wooden weapons.
Where are you located in germany? I live there, too.
Wow, what a down to earth coolass guy. Thanks a lot.👍☺🌲
Do you guys have a vid on steel care for those types that are subject to a lot of rusting and for edge retention of softer less rusting steel...for farm tools and blades kind of type???
Straightforward
Best steel for making armour?
This i was especially wondering vs bullets
pixel pixel swords
Well, considering even tank armor is deceptively vulnerable, it's safe to say there is no best steel for that. Especially if you're gonna wear it.
A deceptively simple question that doesn't have an easy answer.
@@GlowingSpamraam It depends on the mass and velocity of the bullet you want to stop. Defeating a 0.32 ACP pistol bullet is much easier than defeating 0.50 BMG.
Hey skall have you ever been able to test a some what historically accurate ulfberht? If not have you ever thought about investing in one?
Talking of differential hardening I've often wondered if on 4 example my favourite sword the hand and a half could it be good to have the false edge a bit softer for taking blade to blade impacts and the front edge hard and sharp for the killing strike or would that just defeat the purpose of a double edged blade 🤷♂️
Ive found a site selling custom blades ranging from 1045 to tool steel forget all the numbers and everything else but basically the ones the site say are best for heavy cutting is the tool steel and springsteel.
would like to heard more about 1060
There are many steel types but Steelix has always been my favourite
Blut und Eisen!!!!!
Otto Von Bismarck Blød Ok Járn!
Aaaah made me remember when i attended metallurgy classes back in highschool