@@Hope_Boat Thomas Aquinas did not advocate for violence against non-believers. His discussions on just war and the use of force are more about the conditions under which war might be considered justifiable, such as in self-defense or protecting the faith from aggression. He emphasized moral and ethical considerations rather than promoting violence.
@@CatholicForever83 He did. Thomas Aquinas in Summa Theologica Question 11: Heresy Article 3: Whether heretics ought to be tolerated? I answer that, With regard to heretics two points must be observed: one, on their own side; the other, on the side of the Church. On their own side there is the sin, whereby they deserve not only to be separated from the Church by excommunication, but also to be severed from the world by death. For it is a much graver matter to corrupt the faith which quickens the soul, than to forge money, which supports temporal life. Wherefore if forgers of money and other evil-doers are forthwith condemned to death by the secular authority, much more reason is there for heretics, as soon as they are convicted of heresy, to be not only excommunicated but even put to death. On the part of the Church, however, there is mercy which looks to the conversion of the wanderer, wherefore she condemns not at once, but “after the first and second admonition,” as the Apostle directs: after that, if he is yet stubborn, the Church no longer hoping for his conversion, looks to the salvation of others, by excommunicating him and separating him from the Church, and furthermore delivers him to the secular tribunal to be exterminated thereby from the world by death. For Jerome commenting on Galatians 5:9, “A little leaven,” says: “Cut off the decayed flesh, expel the mangy sheep from the fold, lest the whole house, the whole paste, the whole body, the whole flock, burn, perish, rot, die. Arius was but one spark in Alexandria, but as that spark was not at once put out, the whole earth was laid waste by its flame.”
@@CatholicForever83 He did. I posted an extract from Summa Theologica but obviously YT censorship does not allow such things to be said. So here is an edited version of what he wrote : Question 11: Heresy Article 3: Whether heretics ought to be tolerated? I answer that, With regard to heretics two points must be observed: one, on their own side; the other, on the side of the Church. On their own side there is the sin, whereby they deserve not only to be separated from the Church by excommunication, but also to be severed from the world by de@th. For it is a much graver matter to corrupt the faith which quickens the soul, than to forge money, which supports temporal life. Wherefore if forgers of money and other evil-doers are forthwith condemned to de@th by the secular authority, much more reason is there for heretics, as soon as they are convicted of heresy, to be not only excommunicated but even put to de@th.
@@CatholicForever83 Of course the orthodox faith dies not allow such violence as saint pope of Rome Nicholas II wrote the the tzar of the Bulgars to explain the Christians faith. So we have Christ telling st Peter 'no more of that' when during his arrestation st Peter cut the hear of the Roman soldier, we have orthodox popes of Rome who condemn coercion and violence in matters of faith and then, after the Gregorian Reformation that turned the Roman Church into a State with a monarch asking submission to his person we see so called saints contradicting the previous teachings of Christ and Saints and justifying persecution of those who do no submit to that monarch, calling them heretics or schismatics and carbonizing them alive. Now a new generation of Roman Catholics deny this ever happened and pretend that the teachings of their Church never changed. It changed twice. Once from orthodoxy to the Pontifical monarchy and once from the Pontifical monarchy to the current pan-synchretism. Both were errors and are the reasons why Roman Catholics are facing a large crisis. Lord have mercy on us all sinners Kyrie eleison ☦
The Arianism is likely to have been an original Christian sect first appeared in the ancient Ukrainian state of Rus, which only centuries later transitioned to Greek Orthodox dogmas and authority. Nestorianism is documented to be a popular and sometimes dominant religion in Genghis Khan’s armies and his children and grandchildren states. The well-known Batu was Christian (Nestorian) himself and his son Sartak was a Christian priest. One can only wonder whether western clerics were right to shunt those sects centuries before Thomas’ works. History might have been very different.
Very nice video. I just thought I'd clarify that the Eastern Orthodox churches accept the Council of Chalcedon, but I believe the Oriental Orthodox churches reject said council.
And most importantly we Orthodox reject Aquinas justification of violence in the matters of faith. Lord have mercy on his soul for his errors. Kyrie eleison ☦️
God, in many religious traditions, is considered the supreme being, creator, and ruler of the universe. He is often described as omnipotent (all-powerful), omniscient (all-knowing), and omnipresent (present everywhere). God is believed to be the source of all morality and goodness, embodying qualities like love, justice, and mercy. In monotheistic religions such as Christianity, Islam, and Judaism, God is viewed as a singular, all-encompassing entity. Christians believe in a Trinitarian God-Father, Son (Jesus Christ), and Holy Spirit-while maintaining that these three are one essence. Muslims worship Allah, the same God of Abraham, and see Him as the ultimate judge and guide of humanity. Jews also worship a single God, Yahweh, who made a covenant with the people of Israel. In other religious traditions, the concept of God may vary. For instance, Hinduism acknowledges a supreme reality called Brahman, which can manifest in many gods and goddesses, each representing different aspects of the divine. In Buddhism, the focus is less on a creator god and more on achieving enlightenment through understanding the nature of reality and self. Despite the differences in interpretation, the concept of God often represents the ultimate reality and purpose of existence, inspiring worship, devotion, and a sense of connection to something greater than oneself.
But how could there be a Hypostatic union if Jesus did his miracles, not by his own power, but the Father working in him by the Holy Spirit. As it says, "How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him" (Acts 10:38). But for sure he was deity in his spiritual identity of the Logos made into a man. Amen?
Because as St Cyril says, that should NOT be understood as if the Spirit did not naturally belong to Him and He didn’t do His signs with His own Power. St Peter is using from the lesser to the greater because he preached to jews. He refers to the human nature with it’s grace but doesn’t deny that it’s His own Power, since the Power in the Trinity is One. St Cyril ”9. If any man shall say that the one Lord Jesus Christ was glorified by the Holy Ghost, so that he used through Him a power not His own, and from Him received power against unclean spirits and power to work miracles before men and shall not rather confess that it was His own Spirit through which he worked these divine signs; let him be anathema.”
@@MuttonBiryani1994 So Peter was not telling the truth about Jesus nature and ministry? Didn't he say Jesus of Nazareth was anointed by the Holy Spirit and power...? Why would Peter say "God was with him"? Why would Jesus even need the Holy Spirit if he had innate power in him? And why wouldn't he have done miracles as a child? Wouldn't his baptism in the Holy Spirit be a non-event? Remember Jesus is the Christ, "the anointed." Right? But so what if it was all his own power? He wouldn't need the Holy Spirit's anointing. Didn't Jesus say it was the Father working in him doing his works and giving him the words to say? It says, (John 5). And along the same lines: "If I do not do the works of My Father, do not believe Me; 38 but if I do them, though you do not believe Me, believe the works, so that you may know and understand that the Father is in Me, and I in the Father” (John 10). You see, it was the Father working in and through him by the Holy Spirit. But he was always deity by the Logos spirit made into a man's. That identity never changed. Hope that helps.
@@Mike65809 Because those things are said belonging to the human nature. ”Destroy this temple and I will raise it up” that is said about all three persons. Sorry but you are a unitarian heretic who follow your own desires. Sad.
@@butterflybeatles Each heresy is false. But every heretic is a person, and no person is a tautology. In the epistemic sense, no person is true or false, since truth a falsehood are properties that propositions have. Is English your first language?
Did Jesus have a divine nature and a human nature during the epoch of Genesis 1:1-31? I think not. He "took on a human body" when Miriam (Mary) agreed to cooperate with God in allowing Him to impregnate her and bear Jesus. It was after she gave birth that he then acquired his second nature, the nature of a human being. I do not see it any other way in the scriputres!
So they can laugh Christians to scorn? The trinity makes a mockery out of God. It’s illogical and incomprehensible. Jesus Christ is God alone! He’s all you need. Period. End of discussion.
@@alexanderh2345 alright buddy this video was talking about christology but the Trinity is logical and we need Trinitarian theology in order to understand the Bible.
@@alexanderh2345 3 persons yet one essence, being, will, mind, and action. Of course the meaning of person changes because it isn’t the same as a human person.
The music is lovely but one's mind is divided. One wants to listen to the music which, naturally, takes concentration away from the monologue. At least I find it difficult to listen to two things at once. Maybe reduce the volume so that the music becomes almost non-audible so that it is not in competition with the voice.
You cannot prove it. Exactly like you cannot prove the bodies of Ishmael, his mother Haggar, 90-feet-tall Adam, and all the prophets are buried at The Kabba...😀
Sabellius was correct. Aquinas makes things up and passes it off as gospel. There is no basis for the trinity in the Bible. It is entirely a pagan concept. The hypostatic union is complete drivel, and you cannot find where it was taught by any of the Apostles or by Jesus himself. People, we do not base our faith on those who came after the apostles and prophets. Ephesians 2:20 testifies to this. The church councils were governed by Roman emperors. Do you really believe they had spiritual authority to convene such councils in the eyes of heaven? No!
1. Making a new paragraph for each sentence is very unnecessary. 2. There is a huge amount of evidence for the trinity in the bible, just look it up, you can receive abundant evidence for the Trinity in about 30 seconds of googling. 3. Thomas's evidence for the hypostatic union is completely biblical, if you notice in this video the refutations he makes are all based on bible verses, he is applying sound logic. 4. Ephesians 2:20 is literally an argument for the Catholic church. 5. Those same councils you detest are responsible for the compilation of the bible, the same bible you removed 7 books from, the same bible the eastern "orthodox" added 3 books to. hmm, 7 removed and 3 added. 7 & 3, there are exactly 73 books in the Catholic bible, coincidence or divine intervention? idk.
@@bucko3353 I guess I should number my paragraphs and then it’s ok? 😂 Thanks. If there’s so much evidence, show me one verse that talks about the tri-personality of God. Just one. A google search only brings up Plato and Aristotle, interesting 🤔
@@alexanderh2345 I numbered my arguments to make them simple for you, to respond to them, that way you can number your response accordingly, but you gave that up right away, because you didn't want to debate with me. If you google: "bible verses proving the trinity", the first 10 results all provide said evidence, you are being willfully ignorant and refuse to search for the easy evidence. I find it very convenient how you simply ignored most of my arguments, as to be expected of a protestant, just close your eyes to that which is hard to argue with. As for verses, I will humour you despite the fact that you refuse to read the common resources online which are widely available. John 1:1 and John 1:14 together reveal to persons with the title of "God" which are the Father and the Son, however James 2:19 confirms that there is 1 God (as do many verses). So therefore we can see that there are at least 2 persons but 1 God. John 10:30 confirms this The Holy Spirit is also God. 2 Corinthians 3:17 confirms that the Spirit is the Lord, Acts 13:2 confirms that the Spirit itself spoke, Matthew 28:19 very clearly makes a distinction between the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, meaning they are seperate, but like John 10:30 confirms, also they are 1. So we have 3 persons, 1 God. Its honestly not that complicated, btw there are more verses.
@@alexanderh2345 You were smart to conveniently ignore my arguments, just like how you seem to be the only person on the planet incapable of using google to find information. Very convenient. I shall wipe the dust off my boots, as it seems you have no intention of finding the truth, you click on these videos then ignore the arguments and make baseless accusations which you have no intention of defending. prideful and stubborn.
@@SanctusApologetics You gloss over the philosophical underpinnings of those church fathers. And you disregard, as far as I can tell, the influence of Roman paganism on Catholicism. Who presided over Nicea and Constantinople? Do you really trust the “Christianity” and authority of Constantine? A man who in the same year as Nicea poisoned his eldest son and boiled his wife alive. What came out of Nicea and all the subsequent councils were tainted with pagan tradition and the doctrine of devils. You tell me to submit, you should submit to the authority of God alone.
This ''Hypostatic Union'' idea is derived straight from the Greco-Roman pagan mythology. I don't get how people who truly believe in God can accept such thing... even Justin Martyr admitted it in his writings that Christianity borrowed ideas from paganism - “When we say that the Word, who is the first-birth of God, was produced without sexual union, and that He, Jesus Christ, our Teacher, was crucified and died, and rose again, and ascended into heaven, we propound nothing different from what you believe regarding those whom you esteem sons of Jupiter.” Apology 21 by Justin Martyr
@@SanctusApologetics To the Roman Emperor. Even Constantine believed that Jesus is the sun-god 'Sol Invictus'. That's why you have a sun painted in every icon
@@yoppateemo Even if I grant that Constatine held to that heresy, as some say he was an arian. He is not an authority in our church and has no bearing on the divinity of Jesus.
@@SanctusApologetics by saying that I wanted to emphasize how Romans had no problem believing in Jesus because many of the Christian teachings parallel similar stories in pagan mythology.
This is absurd. First of all, Roman and greek philosophy weren't the same. The mentality of the two worlds was in conflict on many aspects (for example the orator Cato and the lawyer Cicero condemned the usage of greek ideals). There were Latin philosophers like Lucretius or Seneca who used greek philosophy but their ideas weren't exactly well received. Second, the conception of the divine in that classical antiquity was never the Abrahamic transcendental divine, the gods were simply immortal humans. We only see notions of the transcendental with Plato, and he still doesn't exactly have a theology (although yes he was quite popular at the time, but this doesn't mean Christianity is Platonism) To claim that Christianity is inherited from the pagan Greco Roman world is absurd therefore. No one is saying that the divinity of Jesus Christ is limited in His humanity, unlike with the pagan gods
Philosophy distracts from the true faith. Jesus said we must be like “little children” in order to make it into the kingdom of heaven. Imagine that, being like a child to enter heaven. You think children understand deep philosophical concepts? No of course not! But they do grasp simple, yet profound truths. The truth is simple. Jesus Christ is God alone! All of deity rests in him. Come to Jesus and you will discover all you need to know about this great God.
@@alexanderh2345 But children always are curious , are always questioning, and even asking philosophical questions. Philosophy was BIG during the era of Jesus especially since he traveled to Rome quite often. Philosophy is needed to understand Jesus era and meaning of certain things. Hence why Catholics and orthodoxs have a philosophy major when studying religion.
Glory to the most Holy Son of God
Son of the Father, One True God.
We have the 8 Ecumenical Synods. We don't need either the scholastics or the hesychasts.
you are a pillar of young Christian thought!😊
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St. Thomas Aquinas, pray for us
He’s in Sheol bro
@@futureking-tc6mc get out of here “future king” 🤡
@@futureking-tc6mcnope, he is in heaven
As an orthodox I pray God to forgive Thomas Aquinas
Kyrie eleison ☦️
@@Hope_Boat Thomas Aquinas is in heaven, he is forgiven
St. Thomas Aquinas: the Jedi Master of theology and philosophy.
He fell in the dark side of the force I am afraid when he justified violence towards non Catholics.
@@Hope_Boat Thomas Aquinas did not advocate for violence against non-believers. His discussions on just war and the use of force are more about the conditions under which war might be considered justifiable, such as in self-defense or protecting the faith from aggression. He emphasized moral and ethical considerations rather than promoting violence.
@@CatholicForever83 He did.
Thomas Aquinas in Summa Theologica
Question 11: Heresy
Article 3: Whether heretics ought to be tolerated?
I answer that, With regard to heretics two points must be observed: one, on their own side; the other, on the side of the Church. On their own side there is the sin, whereby they deserve not only to be separated from the Church by excommunication, but also to be severed from the world by death. For it is a much graver matter to corrupt the faith which quickens the soul, than to forge money, which supports temporal life. Wherefore if forgers of money and other evil-doers are forthwith condemned to death by the secular authority, much more reason is there for heretics, as soon as they are convicted of heresy, to be not only excommunicated but even put to death.
On the part of the Church, however, there is mercy which looks to the conversion of the wanderer, wherefore she condemns not at once, but “after the first and second admonition,” as the Apostle directs: after that, if he is yet stubborn, the Church no longer hoping for his conversion, looks to the salvation of others, by excommunicating him and separating him from the Church, and furthermore delivers him to the secular tribunal to be exterminated thereby from the world by death. For Jerome commenting on Galatians 5:9, “A little leaven,” says: “Cut off the decayed flesh, expel the mangy sheep from the fold, lest the whole house, the whole paste, the whole body, the whole flock, burn, perish, rot, die. Arius was but one spark in Alexandria, but as that spark was not at once put out, the whole earth was laid waste by its flame.”
@@CatholicForever83 He did.
I posted an extract from Summa Theologica but obviously YT censorship does not allow such things to be said.
So here is an edited version of what he wrote :
Question 11: Heresy
Article 3: Whether heretics ought to be tolerated?
I answer that, With regard to heretics two points must be observed: one, on their own side; the other, on the side of the Church. On their own side there is the sin, whereby they deserve not only to be separated from the Church by excommunication, but also to be severed from the world by de@th. For it is a much graver matter to corrupt the faith which quickens the soul, than to forge money, which supports temporal life. Wherefore if forgers of money and other evil-doers are forthwith condemned to de@th by the secular authority, much more reason is there for heretics, as soon as they are convicted of heresy, to be not only excommunicated but even put to de@th.
@@CatholicForever83 Of course the orthodox faith dies not allow such violence as saint pope of Rome Nicholas II wrote the the tzar of the Bulgars to explain the Christians faith.
So we have Christ telling st Peter 'no more of that' when during his arrestation st Peter cut the hear of the Roman soldier, we have orthodox popes of Rome who condemn coercion and violence in matters of faith and then, after the Gregorian Reformation that turned the Roman Church into a State with a monarch asking submission to his person we see so called saints contradicting the previous teachings of Christ and Saints and justifying persecution of those who do no submit to that monarch, calling them heretics or schismatics and carbonizing them alive.
Now a new generation of Roman Catholics deny this ever happened and pretend that the teachings of their Church never changed.
It changed twice. Once from orthodoxy to the Pontifical monarchy and once from the Pontifical monarchy to the current pan-synchretism. Both were errors and are the reasons why Roman Catholics are facing a large crisis.
Lord have mercy on us all sinners
Kyrie eleison ☦
Wow this is great!
Thomas was a brilliant man
St Thomas Aquinas pray for us!
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Glory To The Triune GOD
He is awesome
The Arianism is likely to have been an original Christian sect first appeared in the ancient Ukrainian state of Rus, which only centuries later transitioned to Greek Orthodox dogmas and authority. Nestorianism is documented to be a popular and sometimes dominant religion in Genghis Khan’s armies and his children and grandchildren states. The well-known Batu was Christian (Nestorian) himself and his son Sartak was a Christian priest. One can only wonder whether western clerics were right to shunt those sects centuries before Thomas’ works. History might have been very different.
Very nice video. I just thought I'd clarify that the Eastern Orthodox churches accept the Council of Chalcedon, but I believe the Oriental Orthodox churches reject said council.
And most importantly we Orthodox reject Aquinas justification of violence in the matters of faith.
Lord have mercy on his soul for his errors.
Kyrie eleison ☦️
@@Hope_Boat and his nonsense of ADS and his position that person is identical to essence.
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God, in many religious traditions, is considered the supreme being, creator, and ruler of the universe. He is often described as omnipotent (all-powerful), omniscient (all-knowing), and omnipresent (present everywhere). God is believed to be the source of all morality and goodness, embodying qualities like love, justice, and mercy.
In monotheistic religions such as Christianity, Islam, and Judaism, God is viewed as a singular, all-encompassing entity. Christians believe in a Trinitarian God-Father, Son (Jesus Christ), and Holy Spirit-while maintaining that these three are one essence. Muslims worship Allah, the same God of Abraham, and see Him as the ultimate judge and guide of humanity. Jews also worship a single God, Yahweh, who made a covenant with the people of Israel.
In other religious traditions, the concept of God may vary. For instance, Hinduism acknowledges a supreme reality called Brahman, which can manifest in many gods and goddesses, each representing different aspects of the divine. In Buddhism, the focus is less on a creator god and more on achieving enlightenment through understanding the nature of reality and self.
Despite the differences in interpretation, the concept of God often represents the ultimate reality and purpose of existence, inspiring worship, devotion, and a sense of connection to something greater than oneself.
Did aquinas refuted eed?
But how could there be a Hypostatic union if Jesus did his miracles, not by his own power, but the Father working in him by the Holy Spirit. As it says, "How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him" (Acts 10:38). But for sure he was deity in his spiritual identity of the Logos made into a man. Amen?
Because as St Cyril says, that should NOT be understood as if the Spirit did not naturally belong to Him and He didn’t do His signs with His own Power. St Peter is using from the lesser to the greater because he preached to jews. He refers to the human nature with it’s grace but doesn’t deny that it’s His own Power, since the Power in the Trinity is One.
St Cyril ”9. If any man shall say that the one Lord Jesus Christ was glorified by the Holy Ghost, so that he used through Him a power not His own, and from Him received power against unclean spirits and power to work miracles before men and shall not rather confess that it was His own Spirit through which he worked these divine signs; let him be anathema.”
@@MuttonBiryani1994 So Peter was not telling the truth about Jesus nature and ministry? Didn't he say Jesus of Nazareth was anointed by the Holy Spirit and power...? Why would Peter say "God was with him"? Why would Jesus even need the Holy Spirit if he had innate power in him? And why wouldn't he have done miracles as a child? Wouldn't his baptism in the Holy Spirit be a non-event? Remember Jesus is the Christ, "the anointed." Right? But so what if it was all his own power? He wouldn't need the Holy Spirit's anointing. Didn't Jesus say it was the Father working in him doing his works and giving him the words to say? It says, (John 5). And along the same lines: "If I do not do the works of My Father, do not believe Me; 38 but if I do them, though you do not believe Me, believe the works, so that you may know and understand that the Father is in Me, and I in the Father” (John 10). You see, it was the Father working in and through him by the Holy Spirit. But he was always deity by the Logos spirit made into a man's. That identity never changed. Hope that helps.
@@Mike65809 Because those things are said belonging to the human nature. ”Destroy this temple and I will raise it up” that is said about all three persons. Sorry but you are a unitarian heretic who follow your own desires. Sad.
What do you mean by "false heretic?" Is a false heretic someone who only seems to be one?
It's a tautology.
@@butterflybeatles Every heresy is false, but I don't describe a heretic when I say that.
@@butterflybeatles Each heresy is false. But every heretic is a person, and no person is a tautology. In the epistemic sense, no person is true or false, since truth a falsehood are properties that propositions have. Is English your first language?
Third!
Did Jesus have a divine nature and a human nature during the epoch of Genesis 1:1-31? I think not. He "took on a human body" when Miriam (Mary) agreed to cooperate with God in allowing Him to impregnate her and bear Jesus. It was after she gave birth that he then acquired his second nature, the nature of a human being. I do not see it any other way in the scriputres!
God bless you, I hope to study theology and philosophy soon, any recommendations on where to begin?
@@StMaximilianFanboy My last video I made, I gave 10 books, I would check that out, God bless!
Someone please send this to Muslims.
So they can laugh Christians to scorn? The trinity makes a mockery out of God. It’s illogical and incomprehensible.
Jesus Christ is God alone! He’s all you need. Period. End of discussion.
@@alexanderh2345 alright buddy this video was talking about christology but the Trinity is logical and we need Trinitarian theology in order to understand the Bible.
@@CorneliusCorndogJr How is the trinity logical? Buddy.
@@alexanderh2345 3 persons yet one essence, being, will, mind, and action. Of course the meaning of person changes because it isn’t the same as a human person.
@@CorneliusCorndogJr How can you have 3 persons yet one essence? How is that logically possible? And most importantly, where is that in the Bible?
The music is lovely but one's mind is divided. One wants to listen to the music which, naturally, takes concentration away from the monologue. At least I find it difficult to listen to two things at once. Maybe reduce the volume so that the music becomes almost non-audible so that it is not in competition with the voice.
Aquinas was a shia alwalite
You cannot prove it. Exactly like you cannot prove the bodies of Ishmael, his mother Haggar, 90-feet-tall Adam, and all the prophets are buried at The Kabba...😀
@@matthewvelazquez2013what?
Actually St Thomas Aquinas is Catholic.
you should see what St Thomas Aquinas said about you.
Indeed he's not orthodox.
Kyrie eleison ☦️
Nestorius didn’t teach two persons, your sect admitted this.
We have the 8 Ecumenical Synods. We don't need either the scholastics or the hesychasts.
Sabellius was correct. Aquinas makes things up and passes it off as gospel.
There is no basis for the trinity in the Bible. It is entirely a pagan concept.
The hypostatic union is complete drivel, and you cannot find where it was taught by any of the Apostles or by Jesus himself.
People, we do not base our faith on those who came after the apostles and prophets. Ephesians 2:20 testifies to this.
The church councils were governed by Roman emperors. Do you really believe they had spiritual authority to convene such councils in the eyes of heaven? No!
@@alexanderh2345 The church is the pillar of truth, submit.
1. Making a new paragraph for each sentence is very unnecessary.
2. There is a huge amount of evidence for the trinity in the bible, just look it up, you can receive abundant evidence for the Trinity in about 30 seconds of googling.
3. Thomas's evidence for the hypostatic union is completely biblical, if you notice in this video the refutations he makes are all based on bible verses, he is applying sound logic.
4. Ephesians 2:20 is literally an argument for the Catholic church.
5. Those same councils you detest are responsible for the compilation of the bible, the same bible you removed 7 books from, the same bible the eastern "orthodox" added 3 books to.
hmm, 7 removed and 3 added. 7 & 3, there are exactly 73 books in the Catholic bible, coincidence or divine intervention? idk.
@@bucko3353 I guess I should number my paragraphs and then it’s ok? 😂
Thanks.
If there’s so much evidence, show me one verse that talks about the tri-personality of God. Just one. A google search only brings up Plato and Aristotle, interesting 🤔
@@alexanderh2345 I numbered my arguments to make them simple for you, to respond to them, that way you can number your response accordingly, but you gave that up right away, because you didn't want to debate with me.
If you google: "bible verses proving the trinity", the first 10 results all provide said evidence, you are being willfully ignorant and refuse to search for the easy evidence.
I find it very convenient how you simply ignored most of my arguments, as to be expected of a protestant, just close your eyes to that which is hard to argue with.
As for verses, I will humour you despite the fact that you refuse to read the common resources online which are widely available.
John 1:1 and John 1:14 together reveal to persons with the title of "God" which are the Father and the Son, however James 2:19 confirms that there is 1 God (as do many verses). So therefore we can see that there are at least 2 persons but 1 God. John 10:30 confirms this
The Holy Spirit is also God. 2 Corinthians 3:17 confirms that the Spirit is the Lord, Acts 13:2 confirms that the Spirit itself spoke, Matthew 28:19 very clearly makes a distinction between the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, meaning they are seperate, but like John 10:30 confirms, also they are 1. So we have 3 persons, 1 God. Its honestly not that complicated, btw there are more verses.
@@alexanderh2345 You were smart to conveniently ignore my arguments, just like how you seem to be the only person on the planet incapable of using google to find information. Very convenient.
I shall wipe the dust off my boots, as it seems you have no intention of finding the truth, you click on these videos then ignore the arguments and make baseless accusations which you have no intention of defending. prideful and stubborn.
I’m beginning to realize more and more that people who believe in the trinity are totally ignorant of history.
@@alexanderh2345 Not Catholics who set their entire theology on the church fathers and scripture….
@@SanctusApologetics You gloss over the philosophical underpinnings of those church fathers. And you disregard, as far as I can tell, the influence of Roman paganism on Catholicism.
Who presided over Nicea and Constantinople? Do you really trust the “Christianity” and authority of Constantine? A man who in the same year as Nicea poisoned his eldest son and boiled his wife alive.
What came out of Nicea and all the subsequent councils were tainted with pagan tradition and the doctrine of devils. You tell me to submit, you should submit to the authority of God alone.
This ''Hypostatic Union'' idea is derived straight from the Greco-Roman pagan mythology. I don't get how people who truly believe in God can accept such thing... even Justin Martyr admitted it in his writings that Christianity borrowed ideas from paganism - “When we say that the Word, who is the first-birth of God, was produced without sexual union, and that He, Jesus Christ, our Teacher, was crucified and died, and rose again, and ascended into heaven, we propound nothing different from what you believe regarding those whom you esteem sons of Jupiter.” Apology 21 by Justin Martyr
You ripped that whole quote out of context, do you know what the Apologies of Justin Martyr are about and who they are written too?
@@SanctusApologetics To the Roman Emperor. Even Constantine believed that Jesus is the sun-god 'Sol Invictus'. That's why you have a sun painted in every icon
@@yoppateemo Even if I grant that Constatine held to that heresy, as some say he was an arian. He is not an authority in our church and has no bearing on the divinity of Jesus.
@@SanctusApologetics by saying that I wanted to emphasize how Romans had no problem believing in Jesus because many of the Christian teachings parallel similar stories in pagan mythology.
This is absurd. First of all, Roman and greek philosophy weren't the same. The mentality of the two worlds was in conflict on many aspects (for example the orator Cato and the lawyer Cicero condemned the usage of greek ideals). There were Latin philosophers like Lucretius or Seneca who used greek philosophy but their ideas weren't exactly well received.
Second, the conception of the divine in that classical antiquity was never the Abrahamic transcendental divine, the gods were simply immortal humans. We only see notions of the transcendental with Plato, and he still doesn't exactly have a theology (although yes he was quite popular at the time, but this doesn't mean Christianity is Platonism)
To claim that Christianity is inherited from the pagan Greco Roman world is absurd therefore. No one is saying that the divinity of Jesus Christ is limited in His humanity, unlike with the pagan gods
Sometimes I shed a tear on how much philosophy is required to understand in Christianity. 🥹
Do not worry. Philosophy exists only to answer bad philosophy. It's a tool for defense, not a necessity.
Philosophy distracts from the true faith. Jesus said we must be like “little children” in order to make it into the kingdom of heaven. Imagine that, being like a child to enter heaven. You think children understand deep philosophical concepts? No of course not! But they do grasp simple, yet profound truths.
The truth is simple. Jesus Christ is God alone! All of deity rests in him. Come to Jesus and you will discover all you need to know about this great God.
@@alexanderh2345 But children always are curious , are always questioning, and even asking philosophical questions. Philosophy was BIG during the era of Jesus especially since he traveled to Rome quite often. Philosophy is needed to understand Jesus era and meaning of certain things. Hence why Catholics and orthodoxs have a philosophy major when studying religion.
@@alfamejeu7237 Christ never went to Rome.
@@HunnysPlaylists My apologies your right. I assume the guy who traveled to Rome a lot was Saint Paul 😅