You mean cultural relevance like all those popular quality songs/stories from Japanese users at Niconico that have become so iconic in the fanbase? Yeah I guess I can see that since a large majority of SynthV's userbase making quality popular songs is an the Chinese side at Bilibili and they don't get much notice from the English side
@@srehh5529 Yeah I think people should definitely look towards the Chinese side of things as well. What I mean is I don't see any of the SynthV voices/characters being that extremely popular. Like I won't find merch in a store or be able to find someone who knows about it easily just asking around online (specifically outside of vocal synth communities).
I feel like synthV can’t entirely replace vocaloid in the sense of how iconic they are as a whole and the culture surrounding vocaloid. I do feel synthV may be used a lot bc of how more human they sound but personally I kinda like hearing the unique and electronic tones vocaloids have (like Meiko’s sound compared to luka or miku or gumi).
is it just me or is synthv WAY more popular in the westerm fanbase? like you never see a japanese synthv song, instead it's ALWAYS the english producers using it. not that it's a bad thing, just something i noticed
probably because it appeals to english producers since the pronunciation of english vbs are *crisp* , even the vbs that are locally chinese or japanese sound great with their cross language synthesis feature
It's actually the most popular in China and the creator is Chinese, but the company is registered in Japan because he lives there. I think the reason why it's barely noticed in Japan is because they already have tons of voicebanks that sound good to them. Yet English voicebanks were still very hard to understand until SynthV's AI came along. It's definitely a lot easier to tell what words that CN Vocaloids sing, while there always will be incomprehensible parts for EN Vocaloids. It's probably just the way how the languages work. English is a lot more slurred and the pronunciation will slightly alter when transitioning between letters, while Chinese and Japanese are a lot choppier with their syllables. And since Japanese pronounciation is much easier, it's the easiest to have understandable voicebanks. Before SynthV's AI voicebanks, Chiyu's realism and strikingly clear Chinese pronunciation already made her impressive to CN Vocaloid fans and Eleanor's pronunciation was slightly more clearer than English Vocaloids, but SynthV probably couldn't impress Japanese folks much in JP compared to Japan's native voicebanks.
@@srehh5529 I agree that even if Vocaloid has stagnated from a development standpoint, the program itself hasn't become obsolete, you can still use Vocaloid Miku and the many other Japanese voices that are still available. It's also worth noting that Cevio does exist as a direct competitor to SynthV in Japan, and SynthV has yet to have a voice that becomes "viral" (as Vocaloid had with Miku & Flower and Cevio with Kafu)
it also does not have any competitors on its level in English market. also its cheaper. also Yamaha shit the bed when comes to the English market. the English market is mostly amateurs who want something professional sounding. Vocaloid is expensive price point at 229. for one voice bank with studio version of sythnv it 159.
I was disappointed that you didn't talk about the 5 English voices that exist for the western public (ANRI, Eleanor Forte AI, Maki ENG, SOLARIA and Kevin the first ENG AI VB). Being that ANRI Eleanor AI and Maki ENG are free to use with Lite and paid versions, plus SOLARIA is yet to get a VB Lite in the future. More importantly, you didn't talk about Eleanor Forte being upgraded to a full VB with AI. By the way, if you are a VOCALOID user, you don't have to be forced to use the panels, as the program itself has the same panels and voice preferences at the bottom, just like VOCALOID does. In addition to the most striking implementation, which is the Cross Lingual Synthesis, which allows you to use any AI voice in three languages which are Chinese, Japanese and English, of course all this being paid, but that encourages you to purchase the program, due to the zero limitations that this would impose. I mean, specifically in this video you focused on the Lite version, but you still left out a lot of things to talk about. In any case I liked the clarification of the Kotonoha, a lot of people get confused very easily or call them scams, when the reason they don't have a separate voice is because they both sound very similar when singing, and they both have the same voice actress, plus it gives the user the interpretability to make their own voice settings. You have more than 15 free VB, if you count the Std and AI voices. Something you didn't focus on was to differentiate between AI and Standard voices, because they are very different from each other, since the Standard voices of the program use the conventional recording method of all life, while the AI ones use a procedural method and artificial intelligence training. I think you should also clarify that Synthesizer V and Synthesizer V Studio, (which is the program you are referring to in this video) are not the same program. Since the release of Synthesizer V Studio in June 2020, Synthesizer V Studio has gone from being a trial demo, to being a quality paid program. And that many voices have received updates, like Yamine Renri who was just updated in October or Ellie who got an AI. Besides having Stardust, the first real VOCALOID, to migrate completely to another synthesizer, along with the whole project along with her sisters. I think Synthesizer V will replace VOCALOID (?) No, both are a good alternative, I mean, Synth V is very popular among the foreign public, but in Japan, CeVIO AI, is ahead, despite having a slower and emptier development than Synth V... However, even though Synth V is not so popular among the Japanese, they are counting on the Chinese audience, whose market is emerging and which many companies are eager to have a bit of, because it has become the mecca of virtual artists, having Synth V competing directly with Luo Tianyi... I don't think it will replace it at the moment, but it is an excellent and intuitive tool for all those fans of synthesized voices, it is the most user-friendly voice synthesizer, having a relatively short learning curve, that in a week you could have already established which are the parameters that interest you. And that is all, nice viceo is cool see more people interesed in Synth V!
That would be awesome! Miku is on the Piapro NT engine now though, as Crypton wishes to develop their own engine for creative control/cheaper licensing purposes.
Why? I don't understand why they ask for Updates as if this were a competition. Miku wasn't even the most quality or realistic vocaloid. It is not said when the ones from vocaloid 3 arrived. Even now, Miku is a worldwide phenomenon, and it won't be something that any Sinthv voice can recreate,
For UTAU users out their, there's a software called "OpenUtau" developed by StAkira, OpenUtau has now a lot of new features that the og UTAU doesnt like phonemizers (Arpasing, Teto En, Jpn, French, Spanish and so on), Tension, dynamic curves, the UI itself is beginner friendly, plus it renders live now so unlike the og UTAU, you'll have to w8 for the selected note play
The dictionary function basically allows you to assign certain phonemes to specific words. So if you don't like the default pronunciation, you can include different phonemes into the words. So that means your words will be pronounced differently without phoneme editing. It also can be used to make voicebank speak their nonnative language, although that is rendered not needed by the pro version by that Christmas update.
In my opinion if Synth V does manage to replace Vocaloids, it will probably be after a long time considering the influence Miku has had on Japan and especially western countries
I really hope crypton looks at synth v and uses the quality to improve hatsune miku and Co. Because will synth v is revolutionary...it's going to be hard to top the cultural impact miku and her friends had. Because their personalities have become so ingrained in anime communities. Their easily recognized designs, and many composers made iconic songs with them. Not to say synth v can't compete but the characters don't stand out to me, design wise, some are too busy and others don't have the right amount of detail to them either. The thing that sells synth v to me is the beautiful voice banks that just hits you with realistic sounds. I definitely see synth v doing so much for the future of voice synthesis. But it's going to need a lot to compete with the existing icons
Honestly, I like their English VBs more than the Japanese voicebanks. While there’s a few iconic voices like Tsurumaki Maki and Yamine Renri which I like, but a lot of them are new and don’t gain that much recognition outside of covers (as they have interesting personalities and voices of themselves). Considering how popular Eleanor Forte is, she’s gained a cult following with English producers, along with Solaria being sent to big-name English producers to use. I’ve tuned Eleanor’s lite version and I honestly like how you can change the tone of the character without having to do INTENSE tuning on the VB like Utau, which is great considering it’s an AI program. For example, the tuning feature allows you to make a ore mature sounding Eleanor, or a kz/livetune style tuning with Solaria as I’ve done before.
SynthV can’t replace vocaloid due to vocaloid being really iconic, but i can sure say SynthV’s popularity has skyrocketed when iconic characters like Teto and Gumi got released. as well as maki.
The dictionary is a way to try and change the singer language preference. So let’s say you wanna make Eleanor Forte sing Japanese, and in a way where you don’t have to edit the lyrics to get that one part sound right. by making a new dictionary, typing in the character and the phonemes would make her sing in Japanese. And since you made a dictionary for it, it’ll be saved into program so you can make others like Anri sing in Japanese TL;DR Dictionary helps make the singer sing in a different language
i never understood the relation between yamaha, vocaloid, crypton and piapro... i mean, who own vocaloid?? then i saw this video and now i understood it! it was not the theme of the video, but now i know how piapro and cypton are related =p
Admittedly, I'm kind of in the dark about this program, and I once goofed around with my Utauloids with the Utau program. This is a pretty nice video, I don't think the program will be just as popular as Vocaliod though.
You can tune other settings on the parameter panel which is good as it includes it for users that love it and… you need to try Solaria (Lite). Just sounds amazing.
would you ever consider talking about openutau? honestly i find it to be way easier to tune in than the original program, plus it has a lot less buttons and a bunch of other stuff idk how to explain
It's interesting to see this, I've been curious about maybe one day getting Vocaloid(with specific voice banks being Kaito & Gakupo) but with some of the stuff I heard in the past I was hesitant plus the costs. Apparently you can get some voices to sound similar to some of the Vocaloids. Like making Mo Chen sounds like Kaito/Kaito English, there's a cover of Innocence by Avril Lavigne were SOLARIA Lite is edited to sound like Miku & Koharu Rikka AI sounding like SeeU. Can't exactly replace them but it helps some. Asides from the vocal edits the many voice banks for the synth V that are really cool. Many voices to try out, I kind of want to try it. I've tried Utau before & had trouble but then again I don't know what to do. Maybe I'll get around to trying Synth V eventually.
Im surprised you didnt mention synth v started out as moresampler for utau . Before, moving on as it's own engine . An you could actually use some lite ai banks for free . Plus, synth v supports most vocaloid 3-5 and utau files .
I just got synth v, and really dig it. They should add drag n drop abilities rather than having to make midi files and import them. Much faster workflow consideration there, and seems entirely possible with an update. I have 3 voice banks for it, solaria, kevin, and astarian for a decent variety of tones to work with. Add a touch of reverb and blend in some other effects, and its good. I also want to see the inclusion of the ability to add accents such as if compared to english accent singers have, to french and various other flavors of english such as newfoundland compared to british columbia and southern sounding accents. I have vocaloid4 though never got into it much due to the mechanized sound it seemed to work with. They tried adding tons of sampled quotes in a database to compensate for its mechanical voice grade. Synth v doesnt have to do that which makes it alot better and much smaller in storage size compared to vocaloid. I want to learn more about the process of creating new voice banks for synth v. It would be cool to have a ozzy and a paul mccartney etc. Keep the rock alive.
Dictionary works like the dictionary in Vocaloid does. It lets you change the default pronunciation of a word. UTAU does not require a plugin for tuning. UTAU has had direct tuning right on the timeline since 2009 and was actually the first synth to offer this. If you're in mode 2 (which if you're not, just click the mode 2 button in the tool bar), you just need to select everything, right click a note, click "Pitch", then check off the "Portamento" box and increase the number of control points to whatever you like. From there, tuning in UTAU is almost functionally identical to tuning with anchor points in SynthV. If you want to add vibrato to a note/notes, select and right click, go to pitch again and tick off "vibrato." A vibrato will appear on the note and a box will appear under the note so you can adjust settings. SynthV actually began life as an UTAU resampler known as Moresampler, so it takes a LOT of design cues and usability cues from UTAU. UTAU is genuinely VERY usable once you know what the buttons do and is structurally VERY similar to SynthV's UI if you break it down to where they both put things in a logical sense (rather than a physical sense, a vibrato window and a vibrato side panel LOOK different but are very similar on a logic level). Even Cilia herself has said that the vocal synth SynthV reminds her of most is UTAU, and I can definitely see it as someone who primarily prefers UTAU and finds it to be the EASIEST synth to work on. They're organized pretty similarly and their tuning workflow is VERY similar.
I'd love to but currently, Cevio is a very expensive engine and slightly difficult to get my hands on due to a lack of English distribution for the engine. If it were easier and cheaper to purchase, I might do a review for it, but I don't find it financially responsible to purchase $500+ for review purposes.
I have been using Synth V since the pretty early stages. I looked at vocaloid also but I felt like the SynthV had less of a robotic sound so I started using it. Synth V has made huge, steady improvements and this sets it apart from the other ones by a lot in my opinion because the people who created and work on the program have not just been improving the quality of the voices, they are constantly adding things into the program to make it easier to use and more versatile. They add new things all the time to give more control over the voice and also things that were already in the program they make easier to use on a very steady basis. One example is that if the notes interlap, go over each other, it cancels them out and it mutes them. So what we used to have to do is to get in and edit each note that was touching another one and shorten one of them or move one of them, note by note. Or maybe we had some notes that we wanted to touch so that the vocal does not have a small break in it. In that case I would have to go in and move the notes closer together or make one of them longer. Since then there is now a function that they put in to remove short silences. So what it does is separate all the notes that are not touching each other with one command. They have also put functions into this command that let you adjust how long of a silence it will tolerate. So if you put it to 1 second, every note that is within1 second of another one will connect together. This is very useful and quick for either merging notes or separating them. They have done this with just about every function in the editor, constant improvements, it is so easy now to use and create a song and make the piches and bends and vibrato go exactly where you want as well as control things like the breathiness of the voice, the tone, the vocal tension, it gives so much control over the vocals that once you learn how to use it you can make vocals very fast and of high quality.
Personally I love SynthV AND Vocaloid. I believe that while SynthV is realistic there are some (like me) who prefer the more robotic processed noise of Vocaloid. In the end it’s up to personal preference what is better. SynthV is truly amazing with how the technology can capture realism in it very well but I don’t think it will have the same cultural impact as Vocaloid. However I’m glad that it’s getting attention as the program is groundbreaking for those who love AI vocals
I like Synth V very much, and I have used it myself. However, due to the iconic sound of Vocaloid singers, I don't think Synth V will replace them anytime soon. (I'm a fan of Miku.)
@@GeneralNuisance00 sir, with all due respect; in what society ? Sorry if things may have been different in that colonization of a parasitic species of radioactive bacteria growing in the crevices of the room you don't clean - but V6 did pretty well for us humans !
What do you mean Tohoku Zunko is a scam artist? I'm completely new to all this vocal synthesis stuff (like your video persona btw). I'm doing computer music and guitar. I tried to map out in my head what the vocal synthesis technology is about, and since some of it is in Japanese, I'm struggling to understand who the players are and what their history is, and who are the top tier devs. It sounds like Tohou Zunko is an AH Software product, no?
No actually! AH Software is in charge of marketing and distribution but she's actually created by SSS. They've come under fire a LOT for creating kickstarts for Tohoku Zunko that they end up never doing and instead running off with the money and creating NFTs.
Also well if Vocaloid's dying out I'm making a public playlist on youtube for people that are obsessed with Vocaloids still! Cuz I still love Vocaloid so I'm gonna make a playlist for Vocaloid fans
I like a few but none of them I really watch. Currently I really like Bubi, CdawgVA's Vtuber, so that's pretty much the only one I can say I'm actually a fan of.
I LOVE the system with "lite" voicebanks, it's so easy to try out voices and the software and see if you like it. And they are releasing so many voicebanks, it's amazing. SynthV is definitly the future
I'm gonna ignore that UTAU jab. As someone who has had on and off desires to use and create her own voicebanks with UTAU, I'm upset about that [REDACTED] [REDACTED] (the expletive-ridden version of *"screw you"*) that you think they have just because the software is difficult to use. I would like to try Synth V as it sounds amazing and because it's free, but now I'm scared because you said the voicebanks sound like they're stuck in 2007 in the free version. But, free is free, Ig. Other than that jab, the video was pretty informative. Sorry about that rant up there. I just really hate cursing. I feel like people can get their points across without it, even if it was rhetorical.
I think Synth V is definitely the future of vocal synthesis. I don't see it having the cultural relevance that Vocaloid has though.
You mean cultural relevance like all those popular quality songs/stories from Japanese users at Niconico that have become so iconic in the fanbase? Yeah I guess I can see that since a large majority of SynthV's userbase making quality popular songs is an the Chinese side at Bilibili and they don't get much notice from the English side
@@srehh5529 Yeah I think people should definitely look towards the Chinese side of things as well. What I mean is I don't see any of the SynthV voices/characters being that extremely popular. Like I won't find merch in a store or be able to find someone who knows about it easily just asking around online (specifically outside of vocal synth communities).
I feel similar, thougg from a monetary perspective it really makes it easier to start beginning with vocal synthesis
it has one now (teto)
I can't believe this new program is replacing vocaloid i will never forget all the vocaloids i have listened to
I feel like synthV can’t entirely replace vocaloid in the sense of how iconic they are as a whole and the culture surrounding vocaloid. I do feel synthV may be used a lot bc of how more human they sound but personally I kinda like hearing the unique and electronic tones vocaloids have (like Meiko’s sound compared to luka or miku or gumi).
Agreed, I think that SynthV will just separate the fandom between who likes a realistic sound and who likes a more robotic sound.
is it just me or is synthv WAY more popular in the westerm fanbase? like you never see a japanese synthv song, instead it's ALWAYS the english producers using it. not that it's a bad thing, just something i noticed
probably because it appeals to english producers since the pronunciation of english vbs are *crisp* , even the vbs that are locally chinese or japanese sound great with their cross language synthesis feature
It's actually the most popular in China and the creator is Chinese, but the company is registered in Japan because he lives there.
I think the reason why it's barely noticed in Japan is because they already have tons of voicebanks that sound good to them. Yet English voicebanks were still very hard to understand until SynthV's AI came along.
It's definitely a lot easier to tell what words that CN Vocaloids sing, while there always will be incomprehensible parts for EN Vocaloids. It's probably just the way how the languages work. English is a lot more slurred and the pronunciation will slightly alter when transitioning between letters, while Chinese and Japanese are a lot choppier with their syllables. And since Japanese pronounciation is much easier, it's the easiest to have understandable voicebanks.
Before SynthV's AI voicebanks, Chiyu's realism and strikingly clear Chinese pronunciation already made her impressive to CN Vocaloid fans and Eleanor's pronunciation was slightly more clearer than English Vocaloids, but SynthV probably couldn't impress Japanese folks much in JP compared to Japan's native voicebanks.
@@srehh5529 I agree that even if Vocaloid has stagnated from a development standpoint, the program itself hasn't become obsolete, you can still use Vocaloid Miku and the many other Japanese voices that are still available.
It's also worth noting that Cevio does exist as a direct competitor to SynthV in Japan, and SynthV has yet to have a voice that becomes "viral" (as Vocaloid had with Miku & Flower and Cevio with Kafu)
There's a lot of japanese songs with karin recently
it also does not have any competitors on its level in English market. also its cheaper. also Yamaha shit the bed when comes to the English market. the English market is mostly amateurs who want something professional sounding. Vocaloid is expensive price point at 229. for one voice bank with studio version of sythnv it 159.
I was disappointed that you didn't talk about the 5 English voices that exist for the western public (ANRI, Eleanor Forte AI, Maki ENG, SOLARIA and Kevin the first ENG AI VB).
Being that ANRI Eleanor AI and Maki ENG are free to use with Lite and paid versions, plus SOLARIA is yet to get a VB Lite in the future.
More importantly, you didn't talk about Eleanor Forte being upgraded to a full VB with AI.
By the way, if you are a VOCALOID user, you don't have to be forced to use the panels, as the program itself has the same panels and voice preferences at the bottom, just like VOCALOID does.
In addition to the most striking implementation, which is the Cross Lingual Synthesis, which allows you to use any AI voice in three languages which are Chinese, Japanese and English, of course all this being paid, but that encourages you to purchase the program, due to the zero limitations that this would impose.
I mean, specifically in this video you focused on the Lite version, but you still left out a lot of things to talk about.
In any case I liked the clarification of the Kotonoha, a lot of people get confused very easily or call them scams, when the reason they don't have a separate voice is because they both sound very similar when singing, and they both have the same voice actress, plus it gives the user the interpretability to make their own voice settings.
You have more than 15 free VB, if you count the Std and AI voices.
Something you didn't focus on was to differentiate between AI and Standard voices, because they are very different from each other, since the Standard voices of the program use the conventional recording method of all life, while the AI ones use a procedural method and artificial intelligence training.
I think you should also clarify that Synthesizer V and Synthesizer V Studio, (which is the program you are referring to in this video) are not the same program.
Since the release of Synthesizer V Studio in June 2020, Synthesizer V Studio has gone from being a trial demo, to being a quality paid program.
And that many voices have received updates, like Yamine Renri who was just updated in October or Ellie who got an AI.
Besides having Stardust, the first real VOCALOID, to migrate completely to another synthesizer, along with the whole project along with her sisters.
I think Synthesizer V will replace VOCALOID (?)
No, both are a good alternative, I mean, Synth V is very popular among the foreign public, but in Japan, CeVIO AI, is ahead, despite having a slower and emptier development than Synth V...
However, even though Synth V is not so popular among the Japanese, they are counting on the Chinese audience, whose market is emerging and which many companies are eager to have a bit of, because it has become the mecca of virtual artists, having Synth V competing directly with Luo Tianyi...
I don't think it will replace it at the moment, but it is an excellent and intuitive tool for all those fans of synthesized voices, it is the most user-friendly voice synthesizer, having a relatively short learning curve, that in a week you could have already established which are the parameters that interest you.
And that is all, nice viceo is cool see more people interesed in Synth V!
My girl Miku and her friends need a synth v update!
That would be awesome! Miku is on the Piapro NT engine now though, as Crypton wishes to develop their own engine for creative control/cheaper licensing purposes.
@@WeebaLu sadly they made Miku’s NT voice quality worse with the port
NT is fine. You're just deaf and entirely ignorant of the reasoning and direction behind it. Keep your stupid comments to yourself.
Why? I don't understand why they ask for Updates as if this were a competition. Miku wasn't even the most quality or realistic vocaloid. It is not said when the ones from vocaloid 3 arrived. Even now, Miku is a worldwide phenomenon, and it won't be something that any Sinthv voice can recreate,
For UTAU users out their, there's a software called "OpenUtau" developed by StAkira, OpenUtau has now a lot of new features that the og UTAU doesnt like phonemizers (Arpasing, Teto En, Jpn, French, Spanish and so on), Tension, dynamic curves, the UI itself is beginner friendly, plus it renders live now so unlike the og UTAU, you'll have to w8 for the selected note play
Its such a good update omg
@@tavellcoops So truee
The dictionary function basically allows you to assign certain phonemes to specific words. So if you don't like the default pronunciation, you can include different phonemes into the words. So that means your words will be pronounced differently without phoneme editing. It also can be used to make voicebank speak their nonnative language, although that is rendered not needed by the pro version by that Christmas update.
In my opinion if Synth V does manage to replace Vocaloids, it will probably be after a long time considering the influence Miku has had on Japan and especially western countries
I really hope crypton looks at synth v and uses the quality to improve hatsune miku and Co.
Because will synth v is revolutionary...it's going to be hard to top the cultural impact miku and her friends had. Because their personalities have become so ingrained in anime communities. Their easily recognized designs, and many composers made iconic songs with them.
Not to say synth v can't compete but the characters don't stand out to me, design wise, some are too busy and others don't have the right amount of detail to them either. The thing that sells synth v to me is the beautiful voice banks that just hits you with realistic sounds.
I definitely see synth v doing so much for the future of voice synthesis. But it's going to need a lot to compete with the existing icons
Honestly, I like their English VBs more than the Japanese voicebanks. While there’s a few iconic voices like Tsurumaki Maki and Yamine Renri which I like, but a lot of them are new and don’t gain that much recognition outside of covers (as they have interesting personalities and voices of themselves). Considering how popular Eleanor Forte is, she’s gained a cult following with English producers, along with Solaria being sent to big-name English producers to use.
I’ve tuned Eleanor’s lite version and I honestly like how you can change the tone of the character without having to do INTENSE tuning on the VB like Utau, which is great considering it’s an AI program.
For example, the tuning feature allows you to make a ore mature sounding Eleanor, or a kz/livetune style tuning with Solaria as I’ve done before.
vocaloid is the BLUE PRINT!!
SynthV can’t replace vocaloid due to vocaloid being really iconic, but i can sure say SynthV’s popularity has skyrocketed when iconic characters like Teto and Gumi got released. as well as maki.
Video idea! A tutorial on using vocal synch programs!
The dictionary is a way to try and change the singer language preference. So let’s say you wanna make Eleanor Forte sing Japanese, and in a way where you don’t have to edit the lyrics to get that one part sound right. by making a new dictionary, typing in the character and the phonemes would make her sing in Japanese. And since you made a dictionary for it, it’ll be saved into program so you can make others like Anri sing in Japanese
TL;DR Dictionary helps make the singer sing in a different language
Thank you! I have a friend who makes now Synth V songs and I wanted to know at least a little about it. :)
i never understood the relation between yamaha, vocaloid, crypton and piapro...
i mean, who own vocaloid??
then i saw this video and now i understood it! it was not the theme of the video, but now i know how piapro and cypton are related =p
1:45 what happened to tohou zunko?
Her company made some sort of fundraiser for a Tohoku zunko anime but literally nothing has happened and nobody has been refunded
Admittedly, I'm kind of in the dark about this program, and I once goofed around with my Utauloids with the Utau program.
This is a pretty nice video, I don't think the program will be just as popular as Vocaliod though.
You can tune other settings on the parameter panel which is good as it includes it for users that love it and… you need to try Solaria (Lite). Just sounds amazing.
I do have Solaria Lite and she's incredible! I did a cover of Cardigan by Taylor Swift that I posted on my channel. :)
never heard of Synthesizer V or really any Vocaloid software before this video its pretty sweet tho lots of possibilities you know
would you ever consider talking about openutau? honestly i find it to be way easier to tune in than the original program, plus it has a lot less buttons and a bunch of other stuff idk how to explain
I've been tempted! I'm just personally a little confused by it. Anything to make UTAU an easier program for sure!
@@WeebaLu Really, I use both and can't find any reason to use normal Utau anymore.
@@WeebaLu im willing to help you out if you need any. Open utau has been amazing lately
It's interesting to see this, I've been curious about maybe one day getting Vocaloid(with specific voice banks being Kaito & Gakupo) but with some of the stuff I heard in the past I was hesitant plus the costs.
Apparently you can get some voices to sound similar to some of the Vocaloids. Like making Mo Chen sounds like Kaito/Kaito English, there's a cover of Innocence by Avril Lavigne were SOLARIA Lite is edited to sound like Miku & Koharu Rikka AI sounding like SeeU. Can't exactly replace them but it helps some.
Asides from the vocal edits the many voice banks for the synth V that are really cool. Many voices to try out, I kind of want to try it. I've tried Utau before & had trouble but then again I don't know what to do. Maybe I'll get around to trying Synth V eventually.
Simple answer : Yes . Vocaloid is going to die a painful meme death
Still sticking with DeepVocal cuz I love singing robots. And don't want them to become human out of nowhere
Pitching Tsuina-Chan up makes her sound like Miku. Only problem is that it only works for the upper half of octave 4 and above.
Synth V is in a class by itself!
Im surprised you didnt mention synth v started out as moresampler for utau . Before, moving on as it's own engine . An you could actually use some lite ai banks for free . Plus, synth v supports most vocaloid 3-5 and utau files .
I just got synth v, and really dig it. They should add drag n drop abilities rather than having to make midi files and import them. Much faster workflow consideration there, and seems entirely possible with an update. I have 3 voice banks for it, solaria, kevin, and astarian for a decent variety of tones to work with. Add a touch of reverb and blend in some other effects, and its good.
I also want to see the inclusion of the ability to add accents such as if compared to english accent singers have, to french and various other flavors of english such as newfoundland compared to british columbia and southern sounding accents.
I have vocaloid4 though never got into it much due to the mechanized sound it seemed to work with. They tried adding tons of sampled quotes in a database to compensate for its mechanical voice grade. Synth v doesnt have to do that which makes it alot better and much smaller in storage size compared to vocaloid.
I want to learn more about the process of creating new voice banks for synth v. It would be cool to have a ozzy and a paul mccartney etc.
Keep the rock alive.
Dictionary works like the dictionary in Vocaloid does. It lets you change the default pronunciation of a word.
UTAU does not require a plugin for tuning. UTAU has had direct tuning right on the timeline since 2009 and was actually the first synth to offer this. If you're in mode 2 (which if you're not, just click the mode 2 button in the tool bar), you just need to select everything, right click a note, click "Pitch", then check off the "Portamento" box and increase the number of control points to whatever you like. From there, tuning in UTAU is almost functionally identical to tuning with anchor points in SynthV. If you want to add vibrato to a note/notes, select and right click, go to pitch again and tick off "vibrato." A vibrato will appear on the note and a box will appear under the note so you can adjust settings.
SynthV actually began life as an UTAU resampler known as Moresampler, so it takes a LOT of design cues and usability cues from UTAU. UTAU is genuinely VERY usable once you know what the buttons do and is structurally VERY similar to SynthV's UI if you break it down to where they both put things in a logical sense (rather than a physical sense, a vibrato window and a vibrato side panel LOOK different but are very similar on a logic level). Even Cilia herself has said that the vocal synth SynthV reminds her of most is UTAU, and I can definitely see it as someone who primarily prefers UTAU and finds it to be the EASIEST synth to work on. They're organized pretty similarly and their tuning workflow is VERY similar.
Could you talk about Cevio?
I'd love to but currently, Cevio is a very expensive engine and slightly difficult to get my hands on due to a lack of English distribution for the engine. If it were easier and cheaper to purchase, I might do a review for it, but I don't find it financially responsible to purchase $500+ for review purposes.
Ok I understand
I have been using Synth V since the pretty early stages. I looked at vocaloid also but I felt like the SynthV had less of a robotic sound so I started using it.
Synth V has made huge, steady improvements and this sets it apart from the other ones by a lot in my opinion because the people who created and work on the program have not just been improving the quality of the voices, they are constantly adding things into the program to make it easier to use and more versatile.
They add new things all the time to give more control over the voice and also things that were already in the program they make easier to use on a very steady basis.
One example is that if the notes interlap, go over each other, it cancels them out and it mutes them. So what we used to have to do is to get in and edit each note that was touching another one and shorten one of them or move one of them, note by note. Or maybe we had some notes that we wanted to touch so that the vocal does not have a small break in it. In that case I would have to go in and move the notes closer together or make one of them longer. Since then there is now a function that they put in to remove short silences. So what it does is separate all the notes that are not touching each other with one command. They have also put functions into this command that let you adjust how long of a silence it will tolerate. So if you put it to 1 second, every note that is within1 second of another one will connect together. This is very useful and quick for either merging notes or separating them.
They have done this with just about every function in the editor, constant improvements, it is so easy now to use and create a song and make the piches and bends and vibrato go exactly where you want as well as control things like the breathiness of the voice, the tone, the vocal tension, it gives so much control over the vocals that once you learn how to use it you can make vocals very fast and of high quality.
The only purpose genbu has is being a smoother version of Teto
But now we actually have Teto in SynthV lol
@@Taybray985 so Genbu is useless
I love the video
Personally I love SynthV AND Vocaloid.
I believe that while SynthV is realistic there are some (like me) who prefer the more robotic processed noise of Vocaloid.
In the end it’s up to personal preference what is better.
SynthV is truly amazing with how the technology can capture realism in it very well but I don’t think it will have the same cultural impact as Vocaloid.
However I’m glad that it’s getting attention as the program is groundbreaking for those who love AI vocals
I like Synth V very much, and I have used it myself. However, due to the iconic sound of Vocaloid singers, I don't think Synth V will replace them anytime soon. (I'm a fan of Miku.)
These commercial synths won't beat Utau in one thing - user created voice banks, and Open Utau is already a good program
YOU SAID IT!!!!!!
Bruh I just got back into using V4 after a 5 year break from vocaloids and now it’s possibly gonna become irrelevant T-T
This but with Utau 😞
Update: vocaloid 6 happened yall are now the new utau
girl V6 literally flopped and fell onto the floor with a wet thud
@@GeneralNuisance00 sir, with all due respect; in what society ? Sorry if things may have been different in that colonization of a parasitic species of radioactive bacteria growing in the crevices of the room you don't clean - but V6 did pretty well for us humans !
what game are you playing? Looks hella fun!
Project Diva Future Tone! ^o^
@@WeebaLu thank you. Ill def try it out
What do you mean Tohoku Zunko is a scam artist? I'm completely new to all this vocal synthesis stuff (like your video persona btw). I'm doing computer music and guitar. I tried to map out in my head what the vocal synthesis technology is about, and since some of it is in Japanese, I'm struggling to understand who the players are and what their history is, and who are the top tier devs. It sounds like Tohou Zunko is an AH Software product, no?
No actually! AH Software is in charge of marketing and distribution but she's actually created by SSS. They've come under fire a LOT for creating kickstarts for Tohoku Zunko that they end up never doing and instead running off with the money and creating NFTs.
@@WeebaLu So glad you clarified, thank you!!!
Can you make your own synthV voice bank?
Not unless you have $40,000USD lying around
@@GeneralNuisance00 f4ck, guess back to utau
what did zunko do
Selling NFT's and making multiple kickstarters that were 100% backed for projects that went nowhere and they refuse to answer about lol
@@WeebaLu zunko did nothing they held her hostage
the fast answer for me is: no.
Wait isn't Genbu a Utau I'm even more confused?
Also well if Vocaloid's dying out I'm making a public playlist on youtube for people that are obsessed with Vocaloids still!
Cuz I still love Vocaloid so I'm gonna make a playlist for Vocaloid fans
Genbu is a Synthesizer V voicebank!
@@WeebaLu I see him in so many talkloids with teto I started thinking that thanks for clarifying it!
It absolutely will. I've bought the pro version of SynthV already. The old Vocaloid voices now sound like trash compared to SynthV
SynthV to me is just another version of Vocaloid. Vocaloid to me is moreso anime robots being able to sing
Vocaloid 6
what's your thoughts on the v tube community
I like a few but none of them I really watch. Currently I really like Bubi, CdawgVA's Vtuber, so that's pretty much the only one I can say I'm actually a fan of.
Ok, so basically Synth V is way better than V5
I LOVE the system with "lite" voicebanks, it's so easy to try out voices and the software and see if you like it. And they are releasing so many voicebanks, it's amazing. SynthV is definitly the future
I'm gonna ignore that UTAU jab. As someone who has had on and off desires to use and create her own voicebanks with UTAU, I'm upset about that [REDACTED] [REDACTED] (the expletive-ridden version of *"screw you"*) that you think they have just because the software is difficult to use. I would like to try Synth V as it sounds amazing and because it's free, but now I'm scared because you said the voicebanks sound like they're stuck in 2007 in the free version. But, free is free, Ig. Other than that jab, the video was pretty informative.
Sorry about that rant up there. I just really hate cursing. I feel like people can get their points across without it, even if it was rhetorical.
I think that Synth V could just replace Vocaloid in the future.
It's my own opinion so far.
definitely should give openutau/ ENUNU/ NNSVS a look