Here in California erosion has been a big topic the last decade or so. I’m sure the state has spent a couple hundred million to try preventing it. Always seemed strange to me as the entire California valley is great farming land because of erosion! Heck, without erosion, there wouldn’t be hardly any farmland at all! Erosion isn’t the problem, it’s that we’ve channelized our rivers. Mountains have been eroding since the beginning of time. Oh well, non of that has anything to do with keeping your roads from washing out but always fun to make a comment even if it’s not relevant! 😁👍🏼
Beautiful land you have there or should I say the steward of beautiful land. You should consider a video of a tour of the property. Many subscribers would probably love to see it.
I have done videos where I have indirectly done tours. Like my Sugarpine video. And this one to some degree. In my mind I kind of have but you are probably right. It’s not the same as a real tour. Good suggestion.
That first gulley was a prime example of where Beaver Dam Analogs can really help with erosion and flow. A few BDA's put in uphill of the road would slow the flow of the water, acting as shock absorbers to mediate the storm surge. I've stopped doing water bars like that because, as you show, they need constant cleaning and such. A fellow showed me how to build "bump outs" and that's made all the difference in the world. They're just very large/long speed bumps angled across the road like the water bars, but they work far better than the water bars because there's no channel to get full. The flow coming downhill hits the upper face of the bump out and simply flows off to the side. They take more work to install, but there's almost no maintenance needed.
I am familiar with what I think you are talking about. We have those in the shared access road below my property. And I have a few on my main road. The ones I showed in the video are a little bit of a hybrid of that. I have the channel but also the bump made from the tailings on the downhill side. When the channel fills up, the bump becomes a key part. I imagine you are talking about a more significant bump like we have in the road below. Part of the reasons I do this channel and smaller bump is, I have had a lot of history of skidding logs down these roads. The skidding logs would wipe out the more respectable bumps. The smaller channel bump combination gets wiped out too but takes less dirt to move to fix after skidding. At least in theory. For a more permanent road I think you are right the bumps are better. 👍
always wondered how forests are being maintained, you Sir got a very informative channel going. Even though I am just some European City guy, I've been on a mushroom hunt for basically all my life, so for me there is always something new to learn about the woods.
Several items to share regarding this video! First, road maintenance is a major part of forest care. Thank you for sharing. More on the topic would be greatly appreciated. Second, I would have loved to have seen the beaver dams from a couple of episodes ago, especially after the first big rain. Third, did you know there are channels devoted to draining culverts? Fourth, hello from the snow and big freeze. I wish I was farther south. Finally, that ending was...
I may be rebuilding some roads this spring, depending on how busy I may get with other things. If that works out, I will get some video on that. My original plan was to Include that footage of the beaver dams in this video as you are suggesting. But sometimes I have a hard time remembering everything I plan on doing in a video and I forgot. I think by the end I was more focused on lunch. Which is silly because I walked not far from it when I walked back to lunch. I had no idea there were channels about draining culverts. I will have to check that out. Thank you for the comments, hopefully you are starting to thaw out.
The USFS has really good information on how to maintain roads and trails. They have printed pamphlets in the district offices or you can download them. That's where I learned the term "Water Bar". If there's gold in quartz, it will have dark lines. It takes highly mineralized water from below to flow through the rocks. Follow the quarts vein to a natural spring and look again.
Good tip about USFS. They definitely have a lot of roads to maintain so they may know a thing or two. I think I have seen information about maintaining roads at our state Department of Forestry office too. The quartz does have some dark lines. The veins I have seen here tend to go into the hillside. I think it might take some digging to follow them.
@@WilsonForestLands The original miners on my families' land dug small holes and used dynamite. I have hundreds of these pits. They did very little hand digging. We have spruce tree groves where the springs flow, rather than lodge pole, ponderosa , white or limber pine. It's possible to find underground springs by looking at the vegetation.
We are in the proces of buying a property of 4,5 Ha of Chestnut, Oak, Beech forest on a steep hillside in the Corrèze, France. Your videos are really helpfull already, giving valuable information on maintenance and preservation. We are planning on building/ extending terraces to start a food forest, which of course it already is with those trees around. Thanks so much for your efforts to educate and entertain us. Every video I see, I brag about you to my wife. You're a priceless gift. Love from across the ocean. If you have a video already about terracing, which I haven't found yet, please let me know.
@@freeforester1717 We fell in love instantly when we first visited. You are in some rugged terrain also mate! Visited Scotland once while touring with my band. Went from Chelmsford to Macclesfield, Newcastle (Slept at Hadrians' Wall by myself one night in my old VW camper), Glasgow, Aberdeen and of course did some sightseeing at Urquhart Castle. Still hold the Crest saying close to heart; Mean well, speak well, do well. Love the Scottish forever, fine folk! Here for some laughs: ruclips.net/video/oQLvVEkk1Cw/видео.htmlsi=SAt0MNuJFrvZ-bZX Did you see a Monster?
Thank you for the comment and kind words. Congrats on the property. I don’t know the area but I get the impression it’s probably beautiful from your description. I have not done any terracing. Sometimes I would like to try terracing, swales, and water retention tactics. But this soil is so erosive, I try to not disturb it as much as I can.
@@WilsonForestLands Do you have an idea, what the general composition of your soil is? Where I'm hoping to settle you can find Ranker or rankosol (I guess your classifications could be named differently) it's a type of thin soil on a siliceous subsoil. It is a poorly developed humus mountain soil with an upper horizon rich in organic matter, a silicate source rock (shale), probably an acidic pH and some brown soils (or brunisols in French) where the soil layer is a bit thicker. Predominantly leafy trees on steep slopes. Good thing to remind me to be mindful of the erosion factor. In France you can look up a lot of information about the land on a government website all free, very handy. Even waterflows are mapped out.
Thanks it was funny and informative ;-) my UK property is mostly crazy paving and grass and you could maybe park 4 cars ;-) if they were small. All the best I did like the outro sign-off - I watched it a few time just so I did not miss anything :-))
I have miles of wood roads with lots of creeks and flash flood creeks. I find it good to get out when its raining, when safe, to see where it is coming from and how to get it to go where I want. I use crowns, water bars and definitely side ditches, and culverts.
Another well done, "How to" video. However, the smug tone as you complained about being too warm, really has me re-thinking that Wilson shaped voodoo doll... Cheers from a 19° ice-covered Linn County; (what a temperature difference between thee & Me!)
Oh you caught that smug tone did you? 😁 Maybe I better watch what I say on video, I never considered how many Wilson shaped voodoo dolls there might be out there. Yeah it’s amazing how big the temperature difference is over such a short distance. I was thinking about you up there in the ice.
Another great video of your beautiful property! I feel your frustration with the roads getting washed out. I deal with it every season opener on my claims. My problem is, I don’t own the land, the USFS/BLM does, so I’m limited on what I can do. Still, I do what I can to keep the roads safe and secure for everyone. Take care!
I am going to enjoy your videos, I just bought 120 acres in your area. Not sure exactly where you are but no ice storm here and the vegetation looks about the same. I am more familiar with the area close to Mt Hood, born there. So far, liking the weather better..😂
Very sensible & helpful video to watch. Fancy music & acting would detract from your message. Thank you for being yourself & not trying to do those annoying, distracting things that make me switch channels.
What a great video. Your tips and techniques are very helpful. We don’t deal with a rainy season or large rain events typically here in the U P of Michigan. My problem is 4 ft of snow melt and 5 months of frost oozing out of the ground for weeks. I’ve always said if you choose to heat with wood and live off the beaten path you have chosen to be a salve to your wood pile and road system. I appreciate you sharing for us like minded folks. Thank you for ALL your content.
We don’t get nearly that much snow in the lower elevations. You have to get up over 5000 feet here for that. And the ground rarely freezes below the very surface. If it does, no more than an inch or so. Thank you for the comment.
This is a job I would do for free, making dams and doing some water management was my favourite thing to do as a child when playing outdoors and the opportunity was there.
I've recently purchased 100+ acres in southwest Ma. And since then I've been watching many of your vids.. I'm guessing (I know) I have a few years on you though I am envious on how you handle your large chain saws. For myself I have a poor lower back that just can't hold the wood cutting position very long. But I saw that you had a long bar, cutting from an upright position. I'm guessing you need the CC's to turn a chain of that length. Maybe to heavy for the back?? Great ending/humor by the way!
Yes you do need a heavier saw to power the longer bar. It can be a trade off. Either bend over more or have to carry a heavier saw. Both have advantages and disadvantages and I think it depends on the person and the work they are doing. For one person a heavy saw might be hard on their back, another person bending over might be even more hard on their back. For me a size smaller saw with a 24 inch bar is a very good combination. I wore my last one out and haven’t got around to replacing it. With the new light bars the 32 inch is so comfortable to me I haven’t been motivated to replace the smaller saw. I like the longer bar because, as you say, I don’t have to bend over. Congrats on the hundred acres. That’s the kind of thing a lot of people only dream of.
Could you use the outer cutoffs from your logs to take the place of the water bars? Lay them diagonally across the road pointing towards the downstream side. I've seen this done on trails to reduce erosion.
I could do that but there are times when I skid logs down some of these roads. I think that would cause a problem. But it’s a good suggestion and some areas that might be a good idea. There used to be a water bar like that from long long ago in one of these roads. It lasted surprisingly long.
"Mother nature doesn't like roads" or paths either (though animal paths may be a lesser antagonist) in nature a road is a water path a creek stream or river or even a descending valley, many animal paths follow these water courses' banks - maybe switching from side to side, most man made or large animal roads/path "cut across" these, sometimes latent/dry, water courses. When the water comes due to precipitation flows or melt floods you experience washouts, pot holing from persisting puddling and from stones loosening and shifting.
Your question reminds me that I failed miserably to explain that. I should have mentioned in the video that I piled the dirt on the lower side. And that is an important part of the water bar. Great question, I don’t know why I didn’t even think to explain that important little detail.
That was a joke, meaning that you are obviously busy ALL the time. Nova Scotia humor. You do make a really good video and I laughed OUT LOUD twice, especially the ending. Keep going. I subscribed.
That was my joke response to your joke. Sometimes my whatever it is kind of humor I have can be a little subtle. 😁 Thank you and welcome to the channel.
I think your video endings are just....
😂😂😂
😆
😅😅😅
😂😂😂
I agree.
finally a youtuber that knows how to end a video.. you're the G O A T
A new East Coaster sub here, you sure know how to make me laugh, thanks Sir!!!
Here in California erosion has been a big topic the last decade or so. I’m sure the state has spent a couple hundred million to try preventing it. Always seemed strange to me as the entire California valley is great farming land because of erosion! Heck, without erosion, there wouldn’t be hardly any farmland at all! Erosion isn’t the problem, it’s that we’ve channelized our rivers. Mountains have been eroding since the beginning of time. Oh well, non of that has anything to do with keeping your roads from washing out but always fun to make a comment even if it’s not relevant! 😁👍🏼
Especially when the comment brings up an interesting point like you did with yours. 👍
The best ending ever!!!!!
My home shop property is near a swamp on a lakefront, so I can relate to road maintenance, flooding and debris...lol
Beautiful land you have there or should I say the steward of beautiful land. You should consider a video of a tour of the property. Many subscribers would probably love to see it.
I have done videos where I have indirectly done tours. Like my Sugarpine video. And this one to some degree. In my mind I kind of have but you are probably right. It’s not the same as a real tour. Good suggestion.
That first gulley was a prime example of where Beaver Dam Analogs can really help with erosion and flow. A few BDA's put in uphill of the road would slow the flow of the water, acting as shock absorbers to mediate the storm surge.
I've stopped doing water bars like that because, as you show, they need constant cleaning and such. A fellow showed me how to build "bump outs" and that's made all the difference in the world. They're just very large/long speed bumps angled across the road like the water bars, but they work far better than the water bars because there's no channel to get full. The flow coming downhill hits the upper face of the bump out and simply flows off to the side. They take more work to install, but there's almost no maintenance needed.
I am familiar with what I think you are talking about. We have those in the shared access road below my property. And I have a few on my main road. The ones I showed in the video are a little bit of a hybrid of that. I have the channel but also the bump made from the tailings on the downhill side. When the channel fills up, the bump becomes a key part. I imagine you are talking about a more significant bump like we have in the road below. Part of the reasons I do this channel and smaller bump is, I have had a lot of history of skidding logs down these roads. The skidding logs would wipe out the more respectable bumps. The smaller channel bump combination gets wiped out too but takes less dirt to move to fix after skidding. At least in theory. For a more permanent road I think you are right the bumps are better. 👍
Cool video Wilson. Looks so peaceful there. The ending of the video was spot on. 🪵😁
As a hearing imparted geezer, thanks for the audio boost.
always wondered how forests are being maintained, you Sir got a very informative channel going. Even though I am just some European City guy, I've been on a mushroom hunt for basically all my life, so for me there is always something new to learn about the woods.
They aren’t all maintained this way but thank you. I have been chasing mushrooms too since I was a kid.
Your audio was just fine.
Thoroughly enjoy your videos.
Your endings are definitely improving.
Don’t change anything, like the way you talk easy to relate to
Several items to share regarding this video! First, road maintenance is a major part of forest care. Thank you for sharing. More on the topic would be greatly appreciated. Second, I would have loved to have seen the beaver dams from a couple of episodes ago, especially after the first big rain. Third, did you know there are channels devoted to draining culverts? Fourth, hello from the snow and big freeze. I wish I was farther south. Finally, that ending was...
I may be rebuilding some roads this spring, depending on how busy I may get with other things. If that works out, I will get some video on that.
My original plan was to Include that footage of the beaver dams in this video as you are suggesting. But sometimes I have a hard time remembering everything I plan on doing in a video and I forgot. I think by the end I was more focused on lunch. Which is silly because I walked not far from it when I walked back to lunch.
I had no idea there were channels about draining culverts. I will have to check that out.
Thank you for the comments, hopefully you are starting to thaw out.
The end of your videos is my favorite part
The best ending to one of your videos yet.
You make a very entertaining video. I'm a country boy and the land around me is crisscrossed with ruts caused by tires.
Thanks for the tour, and reminders.
Good stuff as usual.
Lots of great tips. I think you have the video thing dialed in. Thanks for the fun informative videos!
Great tips on maintaining the roads and fantastic ending.
The USFS has really good information on how to maintain roads and trails. They have printed pamphlets in the district offices or you can download them. That's where I learned the term "Water Bar". If there's gold in quartz, it will have dark lines. It takes highly mineralized water from below to flow through the rocks. Follow the quarts vein to a natural spring and look again.
Good tip about USFS. They definitely have a lot of roads to maintain so they may know a thing or two. I think I have seen information about maintaining roads at our state Department of Forestry office too. The quartz does have some dark lines. The veins I have seen here tend to go into the hillside. I think it might take some digging to follow them.
@@WilsonForestLands The original miners on my families' land dug small holes and used dynamite. I have hundreds of these pits. They did very little hand digging. We have spruce tree groves where the springs flow, rather than lodge pole, ponderosa , white or limber pine. It's possible to find underground springs by looking at the vegetation.
We are in the proces of buying a property of 4,5 Ha of Chestnut, Oak, Beech forest on a steep hillside in the Corrèze, France. Your videos are really helpfull already, giving valuable information on maintenance and preservation. We are planning on building/ extending terraces to start a food forest, which of course it already is with those trees around. Thanks so much for your efforts to educate and entertain us. Every video I see, I brag about you to my wife. You're a priceless gift. Love from across the ocean. If you have a video already about terracing, which I haven't found yet, please let me know.
Lovely part of the world, Argentat is enchanting. Greetings from a chilly (-3°C) Grampian, Scotland 🖐🏻
@@freeforester1717 We fell in love instantly when we first visited. You are in some rugged terrain also mate! Visited Scotland once while touring with my band. Went from Chelmsford to Macclesfield, Newcastle (Slept at Hadrians' Wall by myself one night in my old VW camper), Glasgow, Aberdeen and of course did some sightseeing at Urquhart Castle. Still hold the Crest saying close to heart; Mean well, speak well, do well. Love the Scottish forever, fine folk! Here for some laughs:
ruclips.net/video/oQLvVEkk1Cw/видео.htmlsi=SAt0MNuJFrvZ-bZX
Did you see a Monster?
Thank you for the comment and kind words. Congrats on the property. I don’t know the area but I get the impression it’s probably beautiful from your description. I have not done any terracing. Sometimes I would like to try terracing, swales, and water retention tactics. But this soil is so erosive, I try to not disturb it as much as I can.
@@WilsonForestLands Do you have an idea, what the general composition of your soil is? Where I'm hoping to settle you can find Ranker or rankosol (I guess your classifications could be named differently) it's a type of thin soil on a siliceous subsoil. It is a poorly developed humus mountain soil with an upper horizon rich in organic matter, a silicate source rock (shale),
probably an acidic pH and some brown soils (or brunisols in French) where the soil layer is a bit thicker. Predominantly leafy trees on steep slopes. Good thing to remind me to be mindful of the erosion factor. In France you can look up a lot of information about the land on a government website all free, very handy. Even waterflows are mapped out.
Great ending, I see watching the tutorials paid off.
Thanks it was funny and informative ;-) my UK property is mostly crazy paving and grass and you could maybe park 4 cars ;-) if they were small.
All the best
I did like the outro sign-off - I watched it a few time just so I did not miss anything :-))
I have miles of wood roads with lots of creeks and flash flood creeks. I find it good to get out when its raining, when safe, to see where it is coming from and how to get it to go where I want. I use crowns, water bars and definitely side ditches, and culverts.
You are right about doing it while it’s raining. I do that a lot too. My camera equipment just doesn’t like that idea very well. 😁
Agree, cannot see water movement at all with the cameras. I also carry flagging tape to mark the flash streams and problem areas.
I just love your channel and the advice you give with the humor is fantastic!
Another well done, "How to" video.
However, the smug tone as you complained about being too warm, really has me re-thinking that Wilson shaped voodoo doll...
Cheers from a 19° ice-covered Linn County; (what a temperature difference between thee & Me!)
Oh you caught that smug tone did you? 😁 Maybe I better watch what I say on video, I never considered how many Wilson shaped voodoo dolls there might be out there. Yeah it’s amazing how big the temperature difference is over such a short distance. I was thinking about you up there in the ice.
Interesting point about how Nature doesn’t like roads. I enjoy your videos friend thanks
I've done roads like that a few times. We've had a lot of rain lately to. Now it's cold. I'm hoping that I can get more firewood out.
Love your humor!!!
Better ending than The Sopranos. lol.
Those would make for great rally roads if properly graveled.
Another great video of your beautiful property! I feel your frustration with the roads getting washed out. I deal with it every season opener on my claims. My problem is, I don’t own the land, the USFS/BLM does, so I’m limited on what I can do.
Still, I do what I can to keep the roads safe and secure for everyone.
Take care!
Loved the topic of the video! You made it interesting, even that part at 4:03
I am going to enjoy your videos, I just bought 120 acres in your area. Not sure exactly where you are but no ice storm here and the vegetation looks about the same. I am more familiar with the area close to Mt Hood, born there. So far, liking the weather better..😂
Good to see a video like this
I like your since of humor..🤣👍
More like *cents* of humor 😅
Very sensible & helpful video to watch. Fancy music & acting would detract from your message. Thank you for being yourself & not trying to do those annoying, distracting things that make me switch channels.
Thank you for the comment. Some people say I should add music but I am with you on that.
Nice ending Mr. Wilson! Just a guy dinkin' around on his ground... who knew?
Yeah who knew? A little dinkin’ around can go along way.
What a great video. Your tips and techniques are very helpful. We don’t deal with a rainy season or large rain events typically here in the U P of Michigan. My problem is 4 ft of snow melt and 5 months of frost oozing out of the ground for weeks. I’ve always said if you choose to heat with wood and live off the beaten path you have chosen to be a salve to your wood pile and road system. I appreciate you sharing for us like minded folks. Thank you for ALL your content.
We don’t get nearly that much snow in the lower elevations. You have to get up over 5000 feet here for that. And the ground rarely freezes below the very surface. If it does, no more than an inch or so. Thank you for the comment.
Great endi
This is a job I would do for free, making dams and doing some water management was my favourite thing to do as a child when playing outdoors and the opportunity was there.
Your local park probably takes volunteers 😉
That was a great ending, you look good with a shovel in your hand, wanna come to the Adirondacks for Two Brothers Outdoors Summer camp? 😏
At first that sounds like a lot of fun. But I am skeptical this may be coming straight from the Tom Sawyer playbook. 🤨
I've recently purchased 100+ acres in southwest Ma. And since then I've been watching many of your vids.. I'm guessing (I know) I have a few years on you though I am envious on how you handle your large chain saws. For myself I have a poor lower back that just can't hold the wood cutting position very long. But I saw that you had a long bar, cutting from an upright position. I'm guessing you need the CC's to turn a chain of that length. Maybe to heavy for the back??
Great ending/humor by the way!
Yes you do need a heavier saw to power the longer bar. It can be a trade off. Either bend over more or have to carry a heavier saw. Both have advantages and disadvantages and I think it depends on the person and the work they are doing. For one person a heavy saw might be hard on their back, another person bending over might be even more hard on their back. For me a size smaller saw with a 24 inch bar is a very good combination. I wore my last one out and haven’t got around to replacing it. With the new light bars the 32 inch is so comfortable to me I haven’t been motivated to replace the smaller saw. I like the longer bar because, as you say, I don’t have to bend over.
Congrats on the hundred acres. That’s the kind of thing a lot of people only dream of.
Great ending! Lol. We are on day three of ice! Hope it warms today............
I hear it’s supposed to start thawing out north of here today into tomorrow.
Looks like our 45 acres in Napa
Lots of invasive species and east coasters in the comments today. LOL! GREAT VIDEO.
😂 I think they are just going to spread no matter what we do.
Could you use the outer cutoffs from your logs to take the place of the water bars? Lay them diagonally across the road pointing towards the downstream side. I've seen this done on trails to reduce erosion.
I could do that but there are times when I skid logs down some of these roads. I think that would cause a problem. But it’s a good suggestion and some areas that might be a good idea. There used to be a water bar like that from long long ago in one of these roads. It lasted surprisingly long.
I can't think of a unique funny comment so I'll fall back on 'You need a sawmill shed' 😁🤣
I think you nailed it with that one. 😂😂😂
Love your vids. 😂
That’s all folks!
Nice looking land. How many acres?
lol - nice ending :p
A spade and some elbow grease goes a long way on road maintenance.
We are in western Colorado
Good effort:) How many acres are you managing?
160
I see what you did there .
Perf......
i seen that coming.
Yea, that's a good long ending 🤣.
"Mother nature doesn't like roads" or paths either (though animal paths may be a lesser antagonist) in nature a road is a water path a creek stream or river or even a descending valley, many animal paths follow these water courses' banks - maybe switching from side to side, most man made or large animal roads/path "cut across" these, sometimes latent/dry, water courses. When the water comes due to precipitation flows or melt floods you experience washouts, pot holing from persisting puddling and from stones loosening and shifting.
Well said. Roads are a constant battle against nature.
As I read your message out loud, I could hear your voice. It is as if I were being possessed by you. 😳
🤣awesome!
Do you pile up some dirt on the downhill side of the water bars, or is it purely a diagonal groove cut across the trail?
Your question reminds me that I failed miserably to explain that. I should have mentioned in the video that I piled the dirt on the lower side. And that is an important part of the water bar. Great question, I don’t know why I didn’t even think to explain that important little detail.
Wood chips works
Nice ending ahahahaha
What state are you in? I'm Canadian but in Argentina.
I am in Oregon. Hopefully you are enjoying your summer in Argentina.
Bjarne Butler fellow youtuber timber feller and amateur gold panner !
insta like for best ending
How many acres do you have?
This is 160 acres
Nice. How many total?
Nothing a man can own better than land. 😊
What do you do in your spare time?🤣
What is the spare time you speak of? Whatever it is, it sounds very interesting.😂
That was a joke, meaning that you are obviously busy ALL the time. Nova Scotia humor. You do make a really good video and I laughed OUT LOUD twice, especially the ending. Keep going. I subscribed.
That was my joke response to your joke. Sometimes my whatever it is kind of humor I have can be a little subtle. 😁 Thank you and welcome to the channel.
You funny
So much for effort ..... ha ha
😂
Why fix an issue that simply adds ruggedness to your travels.
Get real, get adventure you 🤬
I just hadn’t thought of it that way. 😂😂
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