Making a Surface Gauge (Part 1) || INHERITANCE MACHINING
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
- Join me in the machine shop for part 1 of making a surface gauge. Surface gauges are precision instruments that have a lot of uses, but in the near future I will need to use it as a squareness comparator. I can do so by setting this up on the surface plate with a dial indicator. This precision machining project will require nearly all of my machine tools, including the metal lathe, vertical milling machine, surface grinder, and vertical bandsaw. I’ll also be restoring my massive rotary table and using it and a coaxial indicator for the first time. So sit back and enjoy some manual machining goodness!
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
0:50 The Design
1:42 Preparing the Base
4:17 Milling the Base Bottom
5:53 Milling the Base Top
8:57 Preparing the Lever
9:52 Restoring the Rotary Table
11:47 Making Tooling
13:22 Milling the Lever
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Maybe not the focus of your channel, but I would be really interested in an episode about making drawings by hand. As someone who was only thought to go from 3D to 2D, I find it hard to wrap my head around designing things in 2D. Paper being even more unforgiving.
I am definitely trying to find a way to work something in like this. I'm not an expert and have honestly forgotten most of my training. But I may still be able to come up with something
This is a video I would love to see. Brings me back to the high school mechanical drawing classes I took.
I took an online drafting course twelve years ago which improved my drawings dramatically.
I would love to se that too
I actually think this kind of video would fit in well, this channel seems to be leaning towards ‘vintage’ machining techniques, and part of that would be drafting.
This new channel is made with so much love and passion. I love how even the old office chair is used. Can not wait for the next video. I am an engineer from Germany and will recommend this channel to my fellow "Bastler-Kollegen".
Thank you so much! I'm so glad to be back in front of these machines and to share my journey. Thanks for the support!
That rotary table is a beauty.
I have no experience with machining but I've found joy in watching it, and during the time This Old Tony isn't uploading videos it's awesome watching you're videos! The quality and care put into the machining and video editing just makes a great experience.
Thank you for the kind words! I can relate to missing ToT. He's my OG favorite channel since about 2017. He took a very long time off a while back so I'm happy he's managed to make somewhat of a comeback.
Your videos are so expertly curated and narrated, a real joy to watch :)
Thank you so much! I'm glad you are liking them
Don’t stress the burnt up endmills too much. Even very experienced machinists still kill there fair share of endmills. Keep up the awesome work. I’m really enjoying the videos!
Ah good to know! Thanks for the support!
Cool that you still use an old drafting table and mechanical arm. Thank you for the info you share in your videos. 👍
My pleasure!
After watching only 2 videos I really appreciate your honesty about things going wrong.
Passsing over a bunch of virtual end mills from Munich, Germany... 🙂
Markus
😁 Thank you Markus!
Based on what I know of you, and your grandfather based on your stories and his tools, if he had had the resources you do at your age, he'd have been making on youtube too. Weird thing for a stranger to say, I know XD
future tip, don't use a drill chuck to do any side-load operations like milling. they're fine for plunge cutting, counterbores and drilling but that's it. could destroy your drill chuck and make a nasty mess. keep all the load up into the drill chuck.
That's a really good point. My little mishap with the t-nuts definitely showed me how bad that could be. Thanks!
I look forward to seeing more of your projects! I really like the video production and your shop is very impressive!
@@lucasrock1290 thanks, Lucas!
Glad someone noticed it too👍 best to stay safe and use a collet!
Oh man, I’m loving this project so much. Despite owning a mill and lathe, I’d really struggle to make a tool of this quality with my smaller benchtop machines so I’m kind of living vicariously through your wonderful films. Thank you for being so generous with your time and bringing the whole internet along for the ride 👍
Even with smaller machines I think you could still manage, just might take more passes and patience. I'm glad you are enjoying them though! I'm having fun making them and sharing the projects.
I would have stopped after that second surface grind, what a beautiful part and skill to make it!
Thank you very much!
I would consider this my dream shop; everything I could imagine ever needing. Few newbies realize that once you have the machines, you need the collets, mills, indicators, parallels, rotary tables, etc. which will probably equal or even exceed what you paid for the thing that makes the noise. You've got a wonderful thing here, sir; you've chosen a superior grandfather!
This couldn’t be more true. I have no doubt the tooling in this shop far exceeds the machines in value. All the more reason to make the best of the situation that’s been give to me!
@@InheritanceMachining He'd be proud, I'm absolutely sure. Even the drafting machine is top shelf; such a joy.
@@michaelrice500 Thank you!
I've watched all of your videos. They are great. Gives good insight to how someone truly begins. I didn't inherit machines but I started out with 3-in-1 200 dollar machines and worked my way up. I ran into alot of problems refurbishing and just learning the trade. Brings back memories. You're doing an outstanding job. Keep up the good work.
We all have to start somewhere, but I know I'm beyond fortunate to have inherited what I did. Trying to make the best of it though. Thanks for the support!
So good to see a manual drafter again
I can definitely appreciate the speed and ease of designing with CAD, but there’s a physical element to drafting that makes it more fun at times
I really like the pacing of your videos. It's a nice blend of seeing the process without dragging it out and making me want to skip to the more important points. You're also giving me ideas for projects in my own shop. I need a proper surface gauge of my own....
I appreciate you saying that. We're working really hard to keep them enjoyable the whole way through. So thank you for noticing! Also, I'd recommend this project
a true draftsman!! i havent used a drafting machine and vellum in 30 years!!
I wouldn't say that... But I try! It's more fun this way
Darn, a cliffhanger at the end of the video. You are testing my patience, 😃 as this is becoming one of my favorite channels.
What I very much enjoy are the side projects needed to do in order for you to complete the main projects.
Gradually you'll have a smoothly running shop (one can hope), plus you'll have gained so much experience along the way.
haha! The side projects are both a blessing and a curse (as you say). But there's no avoiding them either way. Thanks!
@@InheritanceMachining I've heard it called "yak shaving" at the first level, but not sure what you call it when the second and deeper layers kick in.
Keep it up - your presentation and humour are great !
@@criggie Ha! I like that! Thanks!
@@InheritanceMachining I can imagine it can be rather frustrating when you have to do a side project, to complete the main project, but including them is actually really good, it shows the entire process, a more realistic view of machining. 😊
@@almostanengineer that was my hope! Thanks!
The fact there isn't a cnc machine in sight is so refreshing. I love seeing everything done by hand and properly rather than just having a machine do it all for you
Nice work, I like your design, the way you incorporated the OD for the squareness checking nose is quite clever. Cheers!
Thanks! I figured one more option wouldn't hurt. This one will let me check squareness for shorter parts where the ball end on the rod will be kind of limited. I also learned I can use a ball bearing against the chamfers leading to the arm pocket.
I always find it impressive what sort of interestingly shaped parts one can make on manual machines! Great work!!!
Thanks! Yeah it takes some thinking and planning, though this is pretty simple relatively speaking. I'd like to find an excuse to make some spiral stuff!
@@InheritanceMachining I will be looking forward to that spiral...
I looked for it in the comments but didn't see it, so here's my bit.
When side milling on a Bridgeport style mill, make sure that your cuts are conventional. That is, teeth turning into the direction of travel.
Climb milling will pull the tool forward and into the work because torque is being applied into the direction the backlash.
That said, you've got some serious skills my man. I found this channel yesterday and I'm almost halfway through your video back log so far. Keep up with the high quality videos. This is excellent work 👏🏻
Great point! I think I've mostly been able to get away with this so far because my ways are snug and my backlash is adjusted pretty minimally. But that doesn't make it ok 😉 I appreciate the support. Welcome to the channel!
It has been a long time since I have seen anyone draw a plan on a drafting table. Very coo. This looks like it is going to be another great project.
It's a fading art for sure. Thanks for watching!
Seeing the rotary table used like that is SO awesome! I can definitely see how you'd feel like a human CNC machine after doing something like that. Awesome work so far, and I'm excited for the next video!
Thanks, man! One of the cooler operations I managed so far
I'm watching this and thinking about the timeline of when you would have been a kid in the machine shop. The irony is that it was 18 years ago when I put together the first iteration of *my* machine shop. Now I have a frame of reference for when you were a "kid" 😁 The thing is, it wasn't that long ago to me, some of the memories have gotten fuzzy, but I remember that first commercial suite very well. I even have the Polaroids I took before moving in sitting in the drawer next to me 😄
Thanks for the Video. It brought back old Times when I work at a Tool & Die shop . Thanks
I realize that I am a bit late to this channel but I really like the backstory of the channel. You’re doing something special in memory of your grandfather. My grandpa and my dad were both machinist, tool and die specialists among other things. They would have enjoyed your channel. I hope to see more great content coming from your channel.
Watching you use that old K&E drafting machine makes an old man's heart warm.
😁
Oh nice can't wait to see it
Well done sir. As a machinist myself and a life-long-lover of well produced, informative and entertaining RUclips videos, this was a treat. I’ve been catching a few videos of yours here and there and I was skeptical at first but you’ve shut my doubts down. Youre skilled, knowledgeable, and obviously excited about the trade/hobby and it shows. Color me impressed.
Thank you very much! While there are a few things I know, I recognize there is so much more that I don't. So I'm definitely not trying to give off any sort of "expert" vibes. Just sharing my learning process
It's pretty nice your grandfather had many items he seemed not to use but had just in case for someday later.
Loving the channel! I’m no machinist but I do enjoy learning. Can’t wait for part two!
Thank you!
Grandpa is watching down proud. The rotary table and the coax indicator being used properly. Great work!!
Thank you! Not bad for a first try
Always look forward to watching your videos
😁 thank you!
Very nice job. Hopefully you get great use out of it for many years to come my friend. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Keep making. God bless.
Brings back happy memories, as I made one of these (not quite as fancy as yours) in my first year apprentice training in 1973-74 (UK). Still have it, though it has mostly only been used in model making, on a plate glass surface ‘plate’ I knocked up. 👍
That’s awesome! The fact that you are still using it gives me more confidence in how useful this tool will be for me
I’ve never seen an old rotary table been used before. That’s bad ass.
😎
10:02, an amazing tool!! bien hecho!!
haha thank you!
That is the coolest lockout tag with the photo on it
Grandfather watching over me
As always, great video! I really enjoy watching them and it motivates me to do more projects on my minilathe and minimill.
That's awesome! Glad to hear that. Thanks!
I am thoroughly enjoying these videos!
👍 nicely done
Just BEAUTIFUL! My projects go the same with all the small projects that pop up. Can't wait to see it done.....
At this point I think they are nearly unavoidable haha thanks!
I have to say, If I had a surface grinder I think I would also use it on every part for which it was remotely applicable. When you have a cool tool, you use the cool tool. This is the way.
This is the way indeed
Another great video! I love your self-aware humor (although your skills show that you know more than most of us) and your narration. Everything about these videos speaks to me. Keep it up! And thanks for taking the time to share!!
Thank you, Russell! I tend to bite off more than I can chew and find a way in the end. Usually ends up with a few "modifications" along the way
Brandon, I smile and can't wait to watch every episode. And you never disappoint. Can't wait for part 2. 👍👍😎👍👍
Now you've got me smiling 😁 Much appreciated!
Impressed !
thanks!
Wauw, that rotary stuff was beautiful!
😁 thank you!
God Bless You!!!! Old School DRAFTING!! Learned it in 10th grade decades ago, I still use it!
Your machining skills are a thrill to watch. Wish I had a Surface Grinder.
Your base so far is better than most and as good as Starret or any top shelf manufacturer
Thank you very much!
i like your channels i have seen many of your videos. i am an engineering student and just started to use a drafer so it was nice seeing it being actually used in your videos.
Nice video, excited for the final product.
Thank you!
Gday, beautiful job and I honestly think it’s worth the time to surface grind the components, the rotary table is definitely industrial, brilliant job mate and looking forward to seeing part 2, cheers
Thank you! Working through the last pieces now
Fantastic work! I also love the LOTO card with the photo! It's a brilliant trick to convey the solemnity of why the card is attached to something. Wasn't a true believer until I almost lost some fingers to a small bandsaw. The saw wasn't even large enough to hide behind, or so I thought, and was crouched behind it reading info off of the motor's nameplate when a coworker turned the saw on. Scared the hell out of both of us.
Wow! That could have been bad. I've had a few close calls with machines myself. Fortunately most modern industrial works have standardized on physical LOTO locks.
Love the looks of those parts. Looking forward to the next part. I began my college career studying engineering physics at the U. of Illinois in 1959. I wasn't up to the math, but I loved drafting, and I still have some of my equipment. I'm delighted seeing you sweep away the debris with the desk brush. I have a chalk pad for cleanup, too. It will all soon be a lost art, I'm afraid. Thanks for sharing your wonderful work with us.
Thanks, Bruce. Given how many people have found interest in my drafting segments I think drafting may stick around, although in very small amounts. Kind of like how analog photography has made a little bit of a comeback. Nothing like they used to be, but not gone forever.
Totally worth the time, good stuff
Thanks!
Just got back into manufacturing during covid and have been watching a ton of machining videos. Just came across your channel and really dig it! Keep em coming! It is really inspiring and makes me excited to be back into this field!!
That’s awesome! Thanks for checking out the channel!
Very nice work, Great video, thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Nice!
dude, you're my favorite machining channel now. Keep it up!
Awesome! Thank you!
As to your fancy tool marks... It may be worthwhile to check out making a "Barleycorn" pattern. This is a series of intersecting circular grooves possible around a diameter or in a linear pattern. To the best of my knowledge, this an ornamental woodturning process. Done well it's amazing. Love your stuff.
Thanks! I'm having a little trouble finding anything with a consistent pattern by that name. Is there some other name for it maybe?
That Rotary Table is a very nice looking bit of gear.
I love this channel and your videos. It's fun seeing you learn as you go. Thanks for sharing, and keep up the interesting work!!
Thank you! I appreciate the support!
Another great video!
Thank you!
Well done.
Thanks
U r so lucky to inherit this tools from ur grandpa... Im a machinist from the Philippines
That's great! I really is fortunate... and hasn't quite sunken
Absolutely love this channel. Great use of music and nice tight editing and of course great content, keep it up!
Thanks, man! I appreciate that!
Rule #1 is that it should WORK PROPERLY.
Rule #2 can be "make it look elegant, as well". 😛
I know, you probably assumed #1, but that's not a good idea. Too many idiots -- architects, cad/cam people, etc., think "lookin' GOOD!" is the be-all-end-all of design. "Screw functionality".🙃🙃🙃🙃
God I envy you for having the training and access to this stuff. I'd love to be as good with metal as I know I could be... Knowledge work and computer work are the height of "human skill", but working in metal... it's kind of like doing architectural stuff and woodworking -- there's a really significant FEELING to creating physical objects YOU devised or made. And fine machine work is the ultimate in industrial level skills.
I realy love your videos and the editing and narration style. It's really nice to see you setting up your new old shop. Keep up the amazing work and content!
I appreciate that! Thank you!
I thoroughly enjoyed seeing this. Looking forward to seeing the VFD upgrade, and part two of the gauge build.
Thanks! Working through that “adventure” now haha
@@InheritanceMachining Side projects nested in side projects? Stay safe mate.
Very nice!
Thanks!
Really enjoying your videos. Thank you.
Thanks!
That was some beautiful work. I really enjoyed the video.
Thanks a lot!
Great work!!!one of my favorite chanels!Cheers from Toronto Canada!!!1
Awesome! Thank you, Raul!
Very nice video, thanks for sharing 👍
Of course! Thank you as well!
Great job, and you demonstrate just how seductive a tool like a surface grinder can be. Once used always used.
I really can't escape its allure.... haha Thanks!
As a novice machinist in his mid 20's, I get so geeked learning about all the specialty tooling taking place. I learned something new that I'll be taking to my workplace, I hope I see the improvement on what I learned! Thank you so much for this.
There are definitely endless skills and tooling to learn about in a shop! I’m curious what was new for you from the video?
@@InheritanceMachining there’s definitely a lot to cover but everything I’ve taken from the rotary table. The clamping procedure and centering pin with the sacrificial material used. I’m taking my notes and I’m gonna use them, definitely looking forward for part two!
@@saulcervantes1532 ah that’s awesome! Working through the rest right now!
Looking forward to part 2
Thanks!
Love these vids... Keep em coming!
Thank you!
Tap down work when tightening vice with a soft hammer to ensure work is seated flush in the vice and always square. Love your attention to detail in your designs and machining.
I keep a dead blow nearby for just that reason. This piece just managed to works it’s ways up! Lol thanks for the kind works!
As a fellow machinist, I love your videos and your shop, and your respect for the machining craft and care in learning things correctly. There aren’t a lot of us younger guys that genuinely care about this craft and were fortunate enough to have an older generation pass this stuff on to us. It’s incredibly valuable and I just want to give you some shine for your efforts. Keep up the good work! (And get those end mills in a collet 😉👌)
Thank you very much, Robert! I definitely recognize the value in keeping the craft and knowledge alive as well. And know how rare of an opportunity I've got here. So I'm making the best of it! I appreciate the support!
Also, definitely learned my lesson with the chuck 😅
I absolutely love your channel
😁 thank you kindly!
I really enjoy this channel. I don't have any knowledge of machining, other than watching videos like this and enjoying the process. Thanks for the mix of great information and well produced videos.
Thank you very much!
Phase 2 rotary tables have metric t slots, I had the same issue, took a carbide endmill and opened up the t slots so I can use standard t nuts.
Yours is a channel I’m glad I stumbled into. Excellent work and very entertaining.
Much appreciated!
Beautiful work. Love your projects. The one tool I would love to have in my shop is a surface grinder. Now I want one even more.
I would highly recommend one. Definitely levels up the precision and appearance of parts. Thanks for watching!
Jut found your channel and i really love it, kind of a more straight to business this old tony
Nice work with the rotary table.
Thanks!
Just watched your tap wrench video. Was very interesting. Looks like a reduced scale model is in order. Piece of cake, er……steel!
This channel is a hidden gem! I subbed 30 seconds in.
Awesome! Thanks and welcome!
Great video man. Keep up the hard work
Much appreciated
amazing work mate and great video!
Thank you!
Good job
Thanks!
Once again another beautiful project in the making. I always want to make my own surface gage but I have three of them. And just trying to give them away is a lot harder than you would think. Looking forward to the next parts. Love the side projects.
I know how that can be. There are a lot of things I think would be cool to make but I don't really need more of. Thanks for watching. I appreciate the support!
Agreed... Also if you are trying to give away a surface gage, I am on the student Baja SAE team at NCSU (we work in the same shop and share tools with the Formula SAE team too, both of which are university clubs that build performance cars to compete against other universities) and we do a ton of machining for our car and could really use a surface gage if you want to donate one (our team, as all baja sae teams, are not for profit and rely on donations). Also I know this is a wild request and super random but figured I would give it a shot lol
If there is any cause worth donating to in engineering it’s Formula SAE and Baja. In many schools it’s the only hands on experience they can offer. I’m an FSAE alum myself
Good work. We shared this video on our homemade tools forum this week 😎
Cool! Thanks!
I love your excellent work
Thank you!
I never thought I would find a channel that’s as good as ToT, but I think I have 😊
Wow! ToT's my OG favorite channel. Thank you so much!
Great videos, I found your channel last week and find your content excellent
Thank you and welcome!
dam cliffhanger . nice vid hate haveing to wait to see the final results . as always nice work
If only there was more time in the day. And fewer side projects 😂 Thanks
good video
I just found your channel. I am now hooked. Thanks
Welcome!