YouTube music employees find out they were laid off during Austin City Council meeting
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- Опубликовано: 29 фев 2024
- "They just laid us all off," an employee said during Thursday's meeting.
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You cut off the best part, right after the ding the boss guy says "Your time is expired." like icing on the cake.
The ding at the end was just priceless…😂
time up!
What's so funny?
@@nnndddzzz1the ding
This segment cuts off almost as abruptly as their employment 😢
Hilarious, huh? :D
They're still employed though. By Their employer - Cognizant. They were never employed by Google. Their contract expired. They still have jobs, they'll just be working on projects other than YTM.
@@poppogigio1848 They worked for Google contractor Cognizant, although a court recently ruled that they were co-employed by Google.
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Is evrybody still just figuring out that YT are monsters?
Technically it was not a layoff. They were contract employees and there contract ended
that's just a legal way to lay off people. they are esentially employees I guess it's better for tax reasons to make them contractors
@@aronkvh No it is not. No they are not, they have some interpretation that they are but there is no court ruling, what I read they did not even start the trial. From they perspective it is about interview process, it is easier to pass interview in Cognizant.
Google interview process takes months, sometimes more than 10 interviews. My contractor interview process (for Google) was... 40 minutes, 10 minutes hr call, 30 minutes technical conference but half of it was talking about how to give me a chromebook (if they send it to me or I have to buy one).
It's still a layoff; what is "technically" is that they were employees of the body shop.
@@aronkvh These "youtube workers" are employees of a company called Cognizant.
Cognizant put out a statement "workers were let go after their contract ended at its intended date...the workers will receive seven weeks of paid time to explore other roles within the organization,"
Google put out a statement "Cognizant is responsible for ending the workers' employment, not Google... Contracts with our suppliers across the company routinely end on their natural expiry date, which was agreed to with Cognizant,"
Any confusion, blame main stream media. You're welcome.
@@swampwiz if they were laid off, it was by their employer, Cognizant, who was probably tired of their brand name being tarnished by litigious brats
The bell at the end 🤣🤣🤣
"Don't be evil"
They changed the motto 9 years ago so they can "Do the right thing"
It's a strange balance you have to have in corporate America but the truth is they were consultants on a contract, the contract is now over and they are no longer needed. The union they belong to isn't official or recognized and only represents Google employess, which they are not. Nicest way I can say it is....they wasted their energy on a deadend situation they weren't going to win and had no leverage. You can't just call yourself a Google employee and force the company to make you one by being as difficult as possible. On the other hand Google was extremely cold to do this without doing a better job of explaining whats happening and why it's happening. But the consultants really were there to do a job and the job is now over, they had no weight to push around.
They worked for Google contractor Cognizant, although a court recently ruled that they were co-employed by Google.
unions are trash anyways people need to quit being victims and run there own lives. how about instead of feeling like you need to force a business owner into doing what you want you just dont work in conditions you dont agree too and problem is solved if someone agrees to that which you disagree too then either A they value the job more than you or B they knew how to leverage their skills if its a skilless job you have no pull quit and learn something that requires knowledge and skill and you will have bargaining chips. why try to force people i just dont get it.
@@petejones6827 "you just dont work in conditions you dont agree too" - written by a libertarian who seems to know _nothing_ about the way capitalist economies work. Employers are the class enemies of the working class, and that will always the case. Workers need to band together to increase their power in the workplace - that is the alleged purpose of trade unions, but mostly they have become corporate business unions.
@@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx can you explain to me why being responsible and not agreeing to bad working conditions is not possible? are you of the mind set that they have no choice? can you define capitalism for me by chance? explain to me why a person who is a entrepreneur is the workers enemy? i dont think you can define capitalism marxism or communism. seems t me you have no clue what you are talking about. you have no idea what a free market is.
@@petejones6827 "being responsible and not agreeing to bad working conditions": I'm not sure what you mean. Employers are responsible for low wages and bad working conditions. Governments are responsible for creating an economic and regulatory environment that favours businesses over their workers, such as in minimum wage levels, making it very hard for workers to organise, poor or non-existent enforcement of health and safety laws, combating rampant wage theft and so on. Workers have little power in their working lives - what control does a worker have over pay, hours of work, sick leave, holidays etc.?
There is no such thing as a free market. The prevalence of monopolies or near-monopolies, encouraged by government policies, benefits the tiny proportion of the population that steals the value workers create (called 'profits'), not the customers. Socialism works to end the profit system, a change which would greatly increase the prosperity and well-being of the whole working class.
I've been in the M&A (mergers and acquisitions) business for a while and young people have to understand there are very big differences between contractors (solo or 3rd party provided) and FTEs (full time employees). They do not have the same legal protections.
@@Wallasmod One of the biggest differences is that FTEs 'normally' get full company benefits (whatever that company offers). Contractors 'normally' don't get company benefits unless they are working for a 3rd party contracting company. But even then, it is up to the 3rd party company to provide those benefits and that is dependent on the terms of services that you sign with that 3rd party. If you are an independent contractor then you most likely will not receive any benefits at all and you will have to pay things like PTO, maternity leave, and healthcare out of your own pocket. This is part of the reason contractors are more expensive than FTEs, but in exchange, you can replace contractors easier.
@@Wallasmod Essentially as a contractor you can be fired for pretty much no reason. Which is why attempting to unionize as a contractor is a 40 IQ move.
Is it a free election for the business and worker to decide if they want to classify the work as contractor or employee? Or does it depend on certain details of the type and circumstances of the work?
The NLRB already ruled that Google is their employer because they control so many aspects of the company that they're basically the boss. This came "coincidentally" right when they were gaining momentum. Google cut them off because they were finally going be forced into giving fair treatment and instead of sharing a tiny fraction of their multi-billion dollar profits, they'd rather cut people off.
@@AreYouSure_ It's decided during the hiring process. The denotation is part of your offer letter. Generally you have no say on if it is contract work or not as it's determined by the position not the individual in most cases. Obviously, you are free to refuse a job that requires you to be a contract worker.
I used to be "hired gun" programmer, and I've been laid off many times before my contract was up. I would simply file for unemployment, of course taking it rather leisurely looking for another gig, LOL.
They're still employed by Cognizant though. Their contract with Google ended. Their employer will get them a new contract with a different company.
@poppogigio1848 would another tech company really want them to work AT (not FOR) them?
What were they hoping to be paid for? RUclips Music hasn't had any new features in years.
It's just as clunky and broken now as it was in 2018.
No innovation at all. Google Play All Access was at least worth something.
Call me crazy, but I use it every day and I have no issues other than the fact that I can’t see my history
at 30 Seconds,,,, ALPHABET WORKERS UNION T-Shirt Guy wasn't smiling for long,,, lol...
Contractors are hired partly b/c they can be let go of or hired easily as work comes or goes. They many times do not go through the same stringent hiring practice that full time employees do. But they get paid handsomely for that long term instability. I've been on both sides so find whining to a city council is just pathetic. Just a hunch, but something tells me this guy or pajamas girl were not part of the core development platform behind Google / RUclips Music.
They worked for Google contractor Cognizant, although a court recently ruled that they were co-employed by Google.
@@RebeccaTurner-ny1xxoh they got co employment?
Cognizant is a different company from RUclips and Google- they are a 3rd party service provider. These guys were never Google or RUclips employees.
This. i don't know why this is so hard to understand. Oh, wait. It's because "Giant tech company bad".
I certainly don’t know enough of the behind the scenes goings on, but either way, those people were fired, no matter if they’re part of Google or a partner. The effect is the same. So much for not doing evil…oh wait, they got rid of that too. This particular giant tech company…bad for sure.
Well yeah… but it happened right after RUclips cut ties with cognizant and then cognizant laid off workers as a result. That’s the point, they wanted to be recognized as full workers with a union and not 1099 employees. Not sure what you folks are missing here.
@@brandonlee93 Well, the public statement at the end of the clip is that it was the day that their contracts were scheduled to end, so consider that this group might have just been engaging in a bit of political pageantry. "Oh, we had NO IDEA that the terms of our 3rd party contract would expire on this very day, oh no!"
@@poppogigio1848wrong they are considered partial employers
Google previously argued that it doesn’t have to negotiate with the workers since they are not Google employees. However, the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) ruled in March 2023 that because Google controlled benefits, hours of work, and the direction of the work of the contractors, it counted as a partial employer. The company appealed, and the NLRB upheld its ruling in January of this year. Google can appeal to federal court.
LOL they are Cognizant contractors and crying about not being recognized as an employee. Uh.. you are not an employee, you are Cognizant contractor.
I guess you can take off the PJ’s and look for something else
They are still cognizant employee they can come again tomorrow and ask cognizant for fair pay.
They agreed to the salary when they got their job at cognizant but what they have done I don't think cognizant will be keeping them as well.
No that's actually where they got laid off from
who's surprised the redditor has stockholm syndrome
They wanna work from home and get paid twice as much as actual hard working americans. So sad for them 😂😂😂😂😂
These "youtube workers" are employees of a company called Cognizant.
Cognizant put out a statement "workers were let go after their contract ended at its intended date...the workers will receive seven weeks of paid time to explore other roles within the organization,"
Google put out a statement "Cognizant is responsible for ending the workers' employment, not Google... Contracts with our suppliers across the company routinely end on their natural expiry date, which was agreed to with Cognizant,"
Any confusion, blame main stream media. You're welcome.
lol mean while youtube is too busy fighting the ad blockers
What’s with the editorial comments by the anchor?
Aren't they technically still employed by cognizant?
No thats who laid them off
Google try not to be evil challenge: impossible
Ouch! 😂😂😂😂
So is this why youtube shorts have became unbearable? Same 5 songs on repeat nonstop for every single video… dang near like having somebody restarting songs over and over every 15 seconds…
looks like Austin just got another 50 future baristas.
Less than 50 workers for something no one uses... Cool
Bet they thought twice about complaining about their jobs....
What was that catchy two-word phrase coined by Nelson Mandela Muntz?
Thats what companies are doing = making their workers work around 40 hours a week, but considering them self-employed/independent contractors, in order to not have to give health insurance, sick days, paid vacation
Someone here use RUclips music ?
This is exactly why I'm not loyal to no job!!
That is reality
Lord the ding is hilarious
Leverage. Kids don't understand leverage.
They took that lesson out of schools.
"Unfair return to work policy". What's that, show up at 9:00am and leave at 5:00pm, children?
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GET REKT!
RUclips supressing this fr
No, it has been recommended to me twice
"Your time is expired", wow...such a train wreak. They were contractors, that (as someone who has done IT contracts) isn't laid off, that is a "Thank you, we wish you well."
Awful? No way. Sometimes you have to show people they aren’t worth what they think they are
That is well timed. RUclips music app is terrible anyway. Should have fired them a year ago.
What is a youtube music employee? Honestly, I am unsure what this means.
This is so confusing. It's like they don't realize that they didn't work directly for Google.
product of our public education system, right there
Yeah and those worked didnt laid off..LOL ha ha
Are you talking about the NLRB, who ruled Google was in fact a joint employer? I don't think the NLRB is confused.
they won a legal battle that stated that both Cognizant and Google were both their employers. bonus fact: when the CDC declared COVID no longer a pandemic, both companies took away ALL of their health care.
Weren't they not employees?
Its like Logans Run. No employees over 30. RENEW ❤
There is a much better version, mayor says your time is expired. Google says there contact ended. They new there job had a end time. That's what a contract is.... It expires
AIUI, this was ahead of the end date for the contract.
Even though the council ruled that google was a joint employer 💀
"RUclips music employees find out".... title of this video is actual misinformation.
Those workers deserve nothing!
Lol. Do the police union next.
Isnt firing or laying off workers trying to unionize illegal??
ROFL that is so awesome!😊
Be happy getting no health Insurance not being paid a living wage & being a 3rd party contractor or someone else from Down South can do that.
RUclips music is a very frustrating app to use. I prefer Google podcasts which ends today.
Welcome to the corpo world and rules.
This is silly, their hired for a contract. Im a contractor this is nothing new or wrong. Next time ask what year of the contract they are on and what are the requirements for extension.
Big oof
Like a game show or sum
Reality check in real time on air.
Nice look Google.
Welcome to the real world. Time to grow up.
😂😂😂 now that’s a spanking!
RUclips music is so important to for artists especially new and upcoming artists not connected to labels to get their music out there it's my favorite source of getting music
Their next job will probably pay more anyway.
Contract workers... 'nuf said.
Bye Felicia
Maybe wear something other than pajamas to a Council meeting. Unbelievable.
They are contracted Google employees! Contractors! They were/are Cognizant employees!!!
They are not Google employees!!!
Don’t expect Google to treat those contractors as employees!!!
I used to be an IT contractor for a few tech companies in SF Bay Area. Tech companies have the right to let me go whenever they want!!! In return, tech companies paid me a high salary but did not provide me any benefits such as health insurance and 401K. That is life of a tech contractor!
These contracted Google employees wanted to be unionized!!! You wanted What???
Those contractors are crazzzy!!!
RUclips Music, $10 a month.......its kind of fitting!
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I wouldn't use it for free
Boy! That liberal arts degree is really paying off!
We can interpret it as we want, but sadly in the end they have no more jobs at that moment. Did they deserve it. At the moment we only know their side(part of it). If they are talented go find another job. Why then stay there if employer refuse to give what you want?
Yes we only know their side of it but yet that's more than enough for everyone to know that them getting fired was the right call.
Contract workers...
Excuse my ignorance, what does a RUclips music team do exactly?
Watch music videos all day?
I’m glad they were laid off…
Spend more time working instead of playing activists.
You are aware that you don't have to work at Google? You can work any job you are qualified for....
Bite the hand that feeds you and you might end up laid off......
Lol youtube ytmusic Spotify are all able to be free with just a few searches 😂
I effing hate Google/Alphabet with a seething passion but I feel bad for those employees. Working for woke companies es no bueno.
Your time has expired 😂😂😂😂
I don't think anything of value was lost
Imma be honest. I downloaded youtube music because it was includded with my you tube premium. But i rarely use it. And when i need to play music, i just go to spotify. And i can use you tube premium in the background and while the phone off. So from a bussiness side, its just a waate of space imo
There's a recession coming around the mountain when it comes. All the indicators are pointing to it now. Inflation is high, and layoffs are rampant. So, based on history, there's a recession coming around the mountain when it comes
Sounds manufactured 🤷♀️
True. My dad called this out last year... He told me expect layoffs to happen. They will get worse before they get better. Save money now and always have at least a 6 month cushion. I've had many friends involved in mass layoffs that have been looking for jobs in their fields for over a year now. Unemployment only lasts for a short time. It's also not enough to sober even menial bills.... In my state it's a whopping $340 a week (that's the most someone can get for unemployment) .... If they made above 300% of the poverty level. Average apartment rent here is $1,500 to $2k for a 2 bed apartment, So just imagine....
We're already in one kemosabi. It's just that the current admin is working overtime to convince everyone it's not happening. Make no mistake, we've been in one for at least 2 years now.
don't flatter yourself, you are not a GOOGLE employee.
Non jobs cant be paid for anymore
These people ARE NOT Google employees. They're Cognizant employees. They have no right to be asking Google for a raise. Also they didn't get laid off. Their contract expired. They're still employed by Cognizant, they're just not working on RUclips Music anymore.
"We will not be going back to the office!!". Google: "Wish granted."
Lol😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
That was awesome. You should have let it play longer. You’re so biased.
Let me guess the reason... They weren't diverse enough.
This warms the cockels of my heart
KWAB
They were refusing to go into their workplace to work. Dunno what else they expected.
Note to organizers, no one wants a perpetually agitated permanent "activist class" for a workforce.
I saw this live it was hilarious 😂 grow up dude plenty of people are losing their jobs and you guys make 100k+ but boo whoo me me me me this is too funny
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Always remember- if u got laid off you weren't worth the squeeze 😮
They weren't laid off. They're employed by Cognizant, not Google. Their contract expired. It's completely different. They still have jobs, they just won't be working on YTM anymore.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Glad the mafias are getting dealt with.
Wow, what non-bias reporting? Shame.