@@craigme2583 my mate’s 7 year old diesel XF with 60k on the clock just got scrapped (with full Jag service history) - engine ate itself and Jag basically said “yes, they sometimes do that”
I knew a bloke who was with Nissan at Sunderland from the start. He managed the supply systems, in particular the IT side of the supply chain. Being in that role he knew the Nissan systems inside out. He let slip a secret, one which will apply to all manufacturers. He explained that a 100% reliability model could be done but the costs would be high. Instead, they made cars with a known average failure rate and they knew exactly what things were likely to fail. Parts were made that worked but not ones that worked faultlessly. Known weak spots were manufactured in with the full knowledge of the company.
Any decent mechanical systems engineer is aware of the concept of MTBF (mean time between failure). If you know the failure rate of an individual component, then an overall model can be built - the maths gets complex! Any competent supplier of electro/mechanical systems (Inc cars) will have calculated the optimum sweet spot of reliability vs anticipated sales vs time to market. Markets cannot afford systems optimised solely for reliability. Nuclear power plants are a good example.
An open secret - noone builds anything that will last forever. I think the real juicy info would be what components are of limited life ascross different manufacturers
I was not aware that the 2013 model year golf tsi had an issue with turbo actuator failures and excessive oil consumption until I started having issues with mine. VAG group were probably aware but did not want the expense of issuing a recall. It seems the turbo design on later models were revised as a result.
Don't see how it was much of a secret. It's been known for US-Ford since the 1950's when they invented 'planned obsolescence'. Even in other fields of engineering, this is true: something that is 99% reliable is much more expensive in R&D and manufacturing than something 98% reliable (assuming that 100% is impossible). So they can sell something slightly less reliable for a much cheaper price and higher profit than going all-out for ultimate engineering excellence. It's one of the reasons (old) Rolls Royces were so expensive - they were engineered to be the best possible, and were modestly marketed as 'The best motor car in the world' just 6 years after formation. Today, they are still expensive and well engineered, but a lot of the expense is now on the hand-labour of trimming the interior. Something that even 'cheap' cars did in the 1920's did (there was no such thing as a genuinely cheap car in the 1920s!). RR continued where their cheaper competitors automated more and more of the production process. The new RR has always been at least as expensive as the average house.
I can never understand people not having their Cars serviced or buying cheap Tyres ? , look after the Car & the Car will look after You, Great Video as always
I have a Nissan Primera registered in September 1999 and it cost me £1,595 15 years ago and is incredibly reliable. Renault use their parts in Nissans and have ruined the brand. As long as you distinguish between pre-Renault and Renault ownership you are fine.
I don't think the average qashqai owner knows that they're actually driving a Renault. Same with volvo, my father in law bought a 2018 V60 and he simply refused to believe that it had a ford engine in it. On the other hand I had a mitsubishi carisma 1.9 diesel with the 1870 Renault engine and it was possibly the best diesel I've ever owned, certainly better than the mondeo tdci I had.
My 23 year old focus is very reliable, no problems for nearly 2 years since i payed £500 for it, though i have used "the car won't start" or "it needs a new part" excuses a few times to avoid ferrying folk about when i can't be bothered lol
Did it come with a small bucket to bale out the leaking boot. There's plenty of vids on RUclips of owners trying to find and fix the leak. Poor build quality is the root cause.
Thank you for producing a video which is hyper-relevant to me. I'm the guy who commented in your previous videos about only buying second-hand cars and driving lower mileage. It's great that you read your comments and produce content your fanbase finds relevant. Love the channel keep up the good work! 👏
Just a thought ...... any chance that as cars age, especially pricey ones, many are not regularly serviced possibly leading to the unreliability scores? High Peak Autos has commented that when cars are expensive to run, like Range Rover, costly servicing may be ignored (until it goes wrong). 🤪
Back in the 1990's I lectured to a group of JLR students. These were guys on the track to become management. They all complained about the quality control in the factories where they worked. It seems that poor quality is so ingrained that they've not fixed it over the years. Makes me wonder if they ever will fix it?
I’m not sure that ‘battery’ - which I assume means it needed replacing - on cars over six years old is necessarily an indication of reliability. They really are a service item, like brake linings and spark plugs….
My brother-in-law is a very wealthy man who loves Range Rovers. He's had about 8 or 10 of them over the last 30 years. He's careful to tell anyone who'll listen, "If you can't afford a brand new one, you certainly can't afford a new one." He rarely keeps them once the all inclusive warranty runs out, or they ned an MOT.
I've been driving for 40 years and up until the last couple of years most of my cars have cost something between two and seven hundred. it's nice to see a car blog in my price bracket
Informative video, thank you. My 17 year old Lexus LS430 does not recognize unreliability. It just soldiers on and on, and seems impervious to any design flaws. However, the other cars in our family are not so kind on the wallet !!!
2008 Ford Fiesta, bought from garage 18 months old with only 1800 miles on clock. Oil changed every year and m.o.t. advisories fixed. Only wash it when I can't see out the windows, ( two or three times a year.). Now has 90.000 miles on clock and still going strong, fingers crossed. Only normal wear and tear, no big issues. Also have a Vauxhall Meriva from new, regularly serviced, well taken care of, it's my wife's. What a pile of junk that is, recently spent approximately £1500 repairing it. First and last Vauxhall.
My 2003 E39 BMW 530i has been a solid soldier for the last 8/9 years of my ownership with nothing major ever gone wrong other than a module of some sort in the auto gearbox needing replacement £400 ish part and labour. Overall other than general servicing , battery, tyres usual wear and tear the gearbox thing to have to fix is not too sad for 9 years of excellent service
I always said the quashqai was a bit better with the nissan own petrol engine. Nissan 1.2, 1.4 and 1.6 are very tough engines. I now prefer suzuki they are honnest cars, ever since my first i fell in love with them. I had ignis 2000 which was written off the got a 2001 and had no issues at all. But my most favourite has got to be the liana estate 2004 1.6 petrol. I have abused this car to death and it has never ever let me. After my 2nd ignis was written off i needed a bigger car also and my uncle knows a scrap yard i can buy scrap cars from. Well i initialy went to view a 2006 focus but it sounded like rubbish when i noticed the liana, it caught my eye. He didnt want to sell it as they are rare in scrap yards but i talked him in to selling it me it. I got it for £230, failed m.o.t with fair few fails. Turns out all fails were linked to one problem. A broken bolt in the exhaust and needed a balljoint. Spent 130 on it including the price of the mot. 7 years on now 184k miles she still runs bang on. I have rescued many other cars with it, serviced every 2 years and all its ever asked me for is a clutch and thermostat. She is a battered a bruised old girl but runs like a swiss watch. Again needed a bigger car so got a scenic mk2 with 53k miles and 1 owner private sale this time. Passed mot no problems, 6 weeks later it started falling to bits. Im putting my old suzu bk on the road soon.
I've just stumbled on this while scrolling because I've seen your stuff before but thanks for posting a video of "proper" used cars, as in the type that I buy. My 2005 Mondeo is still going but the DMF is rattly and the clutch is high and I've lost nothing in deprecation! Right, I better watch the video now! Thanks again!
I have owned many different cars in my lifetime with varying reliability but the best one I have ever owned is my 13 year old Mazda 3. Its never let me down and starts everytime.
In the past 10 years I've bought 2 B5.5 Passat TDi's (a 2002 and a 2005 model) with the 1.9 TDi 130bhp engine. One cost £160 and one cost £250 because they had a lot of niggly faults from poor maintenance over the years and it wasn't economically viable to pay a mechanics fees to fix them. Probably spent £400 on each sorting out various faults. I still drive the £250 one which is an immaculate black Highline with only 130k miles on it. The other one I keep MOT'd incase a family member has a car breakdown and needs a car in a hurry. The newer Passats are nowhere near as reliable as the B5.5
The 1.9 PD engine is a world apart from the crappy 2 litre that replaced it, you were extremely lucky to find that motor for 250 quid and as you obviously know 130k is nothing for that engine, barely run in. I would love another 1.9 PD but I would rather get the bus than by another 2.0.
@@sambrooks7862 it was a really good find. Needed a full set of brakes and pipes and a few things like a fuel cooler and engine mounts. Had to spend a week detailing it too but still a very cheap car.
British Leyland cars had a better record! Good video. Every motor engineer I have spoken to, on this subject, tells, never go near Range Rover/ Land Rover. And one, very respected engineer, told of the best car.....pre 2005 VW Sirocco diesel. Peace be unto you.
I've owned two L322 Range Rovers and an L405 all have been good cars. One L322 had 120,000 miles on it when I sold it and my other 158,000 miles, my L405 is now racking up the miles . I have also owned a Jaguar XF again mileage when sold 112,000 , the only things I replaced were one wheel bearing and the battery. The worst cars I've owned have been BMW and in particular Audi, issues where electrical , brake , gearbox/torque convertor, swirl flap issues etc etc
Passat B6, what a let down after the Passat B5 tdi. VAG diesel cars went downhill fast after 2005, ruining their reputation in one fell swoop. The introduction of DPFs and cost-cutting on engine internals killed reliability. I have 2004 Audi A4 with the Passat B5 1.9 pd tdi engine and it's still going great at 267,000 miles. No good in a LEZ though, but I'm in a rural place.
You are spot on ,got a 2.0tdi vw tdi with DPF, engine light and glow plug light. 1.9 tdi bored to 2.0 with a 16v head would have been the best way ,instead of making a new engine.
I'm surprised Mini didn't feature in the list. Certain engines are known to have weak timing chains which break or get thrown. Engines coking up and EPS failure are two other issues.
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru Not really, N14 engines 2007-2011 were not great, N18 2012-2015 much better, I’ve owned 2 of the forma currently own a R56 2015 JCW. Servicing is key. My current mini has never had problem in 3.5 years, but is maintained correctly. By all accounts the F56 version is even better😅
@@Steve-rv1ql 👌I just know 3 people who’ve had epic issues including 2 engine swaps. If your experience has been good the.mmm n great and long may it continue. Clutch change is not exactly cheap either is it 😁
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru No it isn’t, I remember the £1700 bill quite well, only had that changed as the crank oil seal was leaking (another common problem…). This was at 65k miles so getting near end of life anyway. All done at main dealer so guaranteed for a year and no problems after fitting. Servicing and oil level checking are vital, you also need to remember that this a BMW underneath, quite expensive new, OEM parts costs don’t reduce when the car is 15 years old and over 100k miles unless you negotiate an older car discount - which can be done. Same car (cooper S) had the common timing chain tensioner problems, whole assembly changed and upgraded, £1400 from memory, BMW paid half as it had full MD service history, after I complained. So yes not the cheapest, or problem free but never been stranded, MD service has been good. I blame Peugeot for the less than great engine, the bmw bits are decent quality. Love my JCW convertible, it has no same size competitor, so will by an F56 version at some point.
Peugeot/Citroen and Renault electrical faults. My 307 had 7 indicator stalks (com2000) in twelve months. My 307 SW was in repair more than i drove it. Even a complete rewire couldnt fix it. Ive driven Honda for the past 15 years and had zero issues… touch wood 😂
We have a 2009 peugeot 207 1.6 hdi 16v. Currently on 217,000 miles and ive only had to do a coil spring, oil cooler to stop oil leak, rear wgeel bearings and brake cylinders. Recently brakes all round and its finally getting a clutch ... ive had no turbo issues at all.. and its still on same exhaust. Its on its third egr valve but must admit to they being used egr valves..
Old motor trade joke - how can you tell a land rover owner has given up? The bonnet is down! My suspicion is a lot of the suspension faults are the bad roads and a lot of the diesel issues are people buying cars unsuitable for their use.
Anyone noticed Japanese derived cars don't really figure in this list of bad cars. Nissan once regarded as ultra reliable has suffered now Renault are involved shame really Renault missed out to raise their srandards, instead they appear to have dragged Nissan down. I own a Suzuki Vitara my only complaint is why oh why did they fit such a tiny sunvisor! At least they put the sunglass's holder near the visor so you can easily break out the Foster Grants.
Yes, always good and bad examples and obviously they don’t always suite those looking for nice interiors or an engaging drive but if treated well a Toyota or Honda will usually be more reliable than most of the competitors.
Biggest problems with diesels is often all the emissions crap they are forced to have now. Usually problems with DPF or EGR. I have a 2008 1.9 diesel Skoda Fabia. ( Pre dpf model ) And so far its proving to be very reliable. Only problem so far is minor electrical problems like electric windows.
3 fiats (2x 500 and 1 xPanda) in the family since 2005 and a great track record. A pair of shocks changed on the Panda - £80 and a few tyres/brakes here and there. Can't fault them . Who said Fix It Again Tony? 😀 Great little city cars
👍👍 I bought my wife an old Uno for her very first car, £150 I think. Every time it rained it got a built in foot spa and changing gear was like stirring a bowl of porridge. Good times 😂
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru Prevention is better than cure but a decent starting point helps. Owned many different brands but never kept one car as long as the Honda
Agreed, properly and reliably serviced these cars will run for year's. I have had 5 Honda's over many years and the only reason I changed them was because I could. They were all very good reliable runners. Out of all of them, honestly, the only thing I had as an issue was the stereo played up on one of them! Look after them and they will look after you! 😉
..as much as it may sound weird, im driving 27 years old Range Rover P38...considering its exceptional reputation of wide variety of issues, mine runs just fine with no issues other than usual wear/tear all vehicles have. Stock suspension and no modifications whatsoever...must be one made on wednesday..
Oh the joys of modern era cars.It’s a pity we can’t get survey results for old Volvo 2 series,I owned several of them over a 25+ year period ,all lower priced s/hand and did 100,000’s of miles in them ,maintained them regularly and only failed to get to destination four times in all those miles- and one of them was caused by a stone from a tipper going through the rad on a motorway.we pay a dear price now for all the fancy gadgets and suffer the manufacturers short lifespan build policies now.
My Dad had a 1978 2 series that he purchased in 1990 with 220k on the clock, he sold it around 10 years later with 340k on the clock having just gone through it's MOT. It needed a new exhaust and a steering rack during his ownership. I saew it driving round locally about 4 years after he sold it!
@@Lamby1010 true ..I have a 1.4 08 Astra and i love it ..has cost me nothing major over the years.. don't feel the need to change it at all .. (mind you it is the 3 door sportshatch .. and i always wanted one of those)
Glad I don't buy the expensive status symbol cars, I've always known they are more unreliable. I had a Nissan Micra which had two issues, one was the throttle body needed replacing and the other was the fan speed control resistor. I also had an Astra where the water pump failed which was quite a common fault, I have stuck to Honda since with no issues other than the odd recall
Bugs me why anyone, let alone half the country would want to drive around in a Range Rover Evoque, nothing shouts "look at me I'm a terrible driver" more than those things.
or look at me I think im more superior than you and that look where they expect to move from them when its their hazard like your their servant or something
I've until recently had a 2005 s type jag sold due to London ULEZ. Plus a 2005 Landrover freelander commercial owned from new. This will reluctantly also have to go due to ULEZ,Little trouble with either.
Cars will cost you always. Mine I've had from new, serviced fully on time by main dealer. Cost me on consumables £750 for new disc and pads (not warned of pads being low, that caused the disc issue). New alarm siren £450, this was such an irritating issue, as there was no way to disarm it, without leaving the car unlocked with the bonnet open. If you own a Volvo over 5 years old, get the siren changed as the battery will go in it.
My ex had a very high mileage 106 when we met and we said we'd sell it whenever it needed anything major doing to it. That never happened, it just kept on going. I changed oil, brake pads and tyres and it just kept going. If I remember correctly it failed an MOT on a frayed seatbelt strap which was a few quid to swap a secondhand one. Crazy how reliable and bulletproof those cars are/were.
Indeed, the golden age of the PSA group when they built simple cars which were reliable, cheap to buy and run and drove well. My wife and I had a couple of Citroen zx's back in the day which fitted that brief perfectly. So much for progress!
@@davidlang3625 You hit the nail on the head there. So much for progress. I'm looking for a car now and the "newest" cars I'm looking at are nearly 20 years old, just because I'm looking for something reliable and I can work on myself if necessary.
I have a 1998 Buick and it will last longer than any of the cars on this list for sure. I even put a transmission worth more than the car itself into it. 138,000 miles on it now. She will go another 138,000 no problem. And by no problem, I mean, have to do the tensioner pulley again probably, the alternator for sure, probably the water pump too…😂 but it’s relatively cheap parts and I can do that stuff
Nice to see that there aren't many electric cars in the list, the Tesla S was their first major production model, so reliability has only got better with other models.
It really does depend on the life a car has had to endure whether its reliable or not, a well looked after car thats not been ragged about will last longer
My Canadian 2006 Ford Focus (w/247k) hatch with an automatic transmission btw, has been basically trouble free even in our harsh winters with temp. from -10F.
How is the Renault clio not on this list? Everyone I know who owned a clio, including myself had major problems with their electrics. Most of the people I know had 2002 ish generation of the clio and mine was a 2008 model (I don't know the names of the different clio models/generations).
I’ve had three Suzuki swifts over the past ten years and the gear box failed on two, the third one had a major issue with the brakes. I know I’m a glutton for punishment buying three 🙈😆 . I now have a 19 plate VW polo TSI and it’s been faultless so far. I’m looking at a Volvo for my next car but I need to do some research first.
The two worst cars I drove as company supplied vehicles were the Morris 1700 Ital estste and the Peugot 306 estate. Unreliable, uncomfortable and downright ugly.
No KIa cars there. I have a 13 year old Piccanto that just does not go wrong. It had a 7 year warranty and during that time I had one fix. brake light switch. Kept teh car off the road for 15 minutes, once he had in in stock. I have since replaced it again from Ebay for buttons . easy to fix and economical . No air con nor silly features so suits me. I also have a 18 year old Mondeo estate Duratec 2L petrol. Great car being super reliable. Some people are ripped off for their bling cars.
My 2017 Jaguar XF has been one of the most reliable cars that I have owned in over 50 years of car ownership.We have also owned quite a few Vauxhalls(Cavaliers, Astras ,Carltons Corsas)and all have them have been very cheap to run and maintain.The most unreliable car that I have owned was surprisingly a Mazda 6 . Correct and regular servicing of all vehicles pays dividends.😂
I just have to say, I'll stick with my twenty three year old K11 Nissan Micra 😂, in the 11 years I've owned it, it has never once broken down or not started. The times I've driven passed these so-called "prestigious" cars broken down at the side of the road, particularly in winter, always makes me chuckle.
Pretty much as expected. Lots of VW/Audi, Mercedes and Land/Range Rovers. Everyone I've known with a VW or Audi have suffered large garage bills. Mercedes engines are poor .. mine suffered massive oil leaks at 90K .. told by garage this is very common with larger Mercedes engines and oil seals. However, £1600 later with all new oil seals, I think it now might be good for another 90K.
Got a vw touran 2009 2.0 tdi. Lovely car. A bit fugly but very comfortable and fairly reliable but sunroof opens and closes by itself. A small piece of the impeller has snapped off the turbo and we had a small leak which i cured. Be interesting to see how it matches up to my many Japanese cars ive owned prior to this.
I have a disco 2, 04 reg, never had a breakdown, or let me down apart from it needing airbags, why you as me ? That is because I service it regularly. A lot of people buy these and try to run them on a budget as they have no extra cash after purchase, so they skip on servicing. Once that happens you can expect problems, just like you would get with any other you do the same with. Moral. Look after them, simple really.
👍 there’s so much bent service history flying around too that people can sometimes buy a car in good faith without any knowledge that it’s been abused in the past.
I always take reliability survey's with a pinch of salt... much being dependant on how hard one drives a car or if they're serviced regularly and properly... You'll also get many "complaints" from popular cars- as more are sold ! I own an 09 C3 Picasso HDi... most would steer clear of such a thing- yet mine has been 100% reliable- bar a brake light bulb ! That said, what I do take notice of are fairly modern models with electronic faults... which are not generally service dependant and usually expensive to put right. A little surprised the Astra's no 2 (unless it''s the 1.8 !)- though they do get hammered by everyone lol...
Wow I never knew this. Nice one for the news dude. What are your thoughts about Ford Rangers? I'm thinking about getting one for All round mainly for high use on the countryside roads mainly and heavy loads?
And there we go. Land Rover takes the crown yet again. Why do these things become *so* unreliable once they get past 3 to 4 years old? And what's really odd, is that they retain their value massively at 3 years old, often being worth 65% of their new cost. You'd think that their abysmal reliability record would hammer used values...... The used market for old Defenders is scary to those who buy "normal" used cars. There's an older - about 7 to 8 years old I think - Defender long wheelbase station wagon at a Honda dealer near me, and it's got a sticker price of £30k plus.....
This list doesn't surprise me what no Hondas Mazdas Suzukis well there was one Lexus but no Toyotas just goes to show the four best nakes of cars you can buy and we did own 2004 Ford Fiesta and it was a pile of crap had a lot of problems and we bought it brand new and our latest car is a Suzuki Beleno GLX 2021 bought brand new and no problems so far and my vehicle is a 1997 Toyota Hilux a couple of issues age related but still worth it do a lot of work myself but no engine or gearbox issues
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru I can't understand why people buy them l guess they don't research them well l didn't realise how good a car was until we bought our Beleno but they did sell well because of they were cheap the Beleno GL was one of the cheapest cars available in Australia when they sold but the two other cheapest cars now available in Australia is the small Chinese built small wanabe MG which is crap and the small crappy Kia Hyundai and Kia are trying so hard to be like Toyota but Toyotas very good reputation for reliability Kia and Hyundai will never get there as for Honda Mazda Suzuki and Toyota buy them not this European British American and South Korean crap and there us another country that did build very good and reliable vehicles that is Australia the Ford Falcon and Holden Comodore there are plenty of them still driving around 10 20 30 year old cars going down the road plus we do not have the rust issues that other countries do in Australia and in N,S.W we have yearly regestration inspections for cars over five years old so it will be interesting to see how all these Chinese South Korean cars go when they go for there first regestration inspection and the LDV are a a Chinese built vehicle and from brand new they are having rust issues my 26 year old Toyota hilux doesn't have rust issues at all never been knocked back on my yearly regestration inspection for rust l have been knocked back for age related issues and no engine issues infact l don't think there any South Korean or Chinese car that has ever done 9800000 kms there are two Toyotas l know of that sold with 9800000 kms on them on a 1997 Hilux and the other a 2002 Toyota Corolla
@@lesklower7281 I don’t think the only measure of a car is how long it will run before it’s scrapped. A lot of people want performance or driving experience over pure reliability when push comes to shove. Cars coming out of Korea now are superb by the way. People will always just buy what they want and rand the rough abd the smooth with it. As good a d feliz me as many Japanese cars have been, they’re often a little dull (big generalism I know) which puts many people off.
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru l think you should be able to buy a vehicle and the longer you own it with out to much trouble in the case of my 1997 Toyota 2wd aluminum trayed Hilux now l have been watching the market and my Toyota Hilux in its configuration is the most desirable hence they are selling for aud$5000 $6000 $7000 $8000 and one sold for $10000 how much are 1997 Hyundais and Kias are selling for whats the big deal about performance now in N.S.W the fastest you can go us 110kph and the Toyota can do that comfortably so can our Suzuki Beleno GLX and it has a 1.4litre engine and do 50mpg without any problem and may l remind you a 1997 Toyota Hilux sold that had done 980000kms for aud $500 and had no trouble why it us because of the famous 22R motor that is sitting under the bonnet reliable robust last much better than any Horrible Hyundai or Krappy Kia bring me one of these makes that have done say 400000 kms and can sell for say aud $5000
Have a 2015 xe love it its great on fuel and fast . Only issue was i couldn't get car open one morning but used key and started itcof fob on left side of dash at alback of steering column.
The people who buy Italian cars rarely respond to surveys, because by the time their cars get to 8+ years old, they're spending so much time fixing them....or walking to places they'd rather be driving to...
The Fiat 500 and Abarth 595 and perhaps last generation Fiat Panda seems to be the exception to the rule. Those small Fiat's built out of Poland seem to fair surprisingly well.
my first car , i passed 2 year ago took a year and half to find something that is nog a shitbox or high on insurance 2004 Toyota corolla T3 3dr hatchback 1.6 vvti auto( has the allows , side skirts slightly tinted windows like the T sport( dyspaxia motorskill co ordibation etc auto only licence ) 110bhp 80,000 miles paid £2500 , at time dealers were asking the same money for a base model 2001 yaris with cassete and 120,000 mile and 1.1 litre with the shitty CVT gearbox .This is the better one lot more space ( rare is this auto spec 3dr )havent seen a single one out on tbe road or online , had it 5 months so good so far touchwood , havent had to top oil off since i bought it and refilled it ., i am ocd so keep it really clean as possible , a nnew trye bought when i got puncture and bulbs replaced 12v bluetooth as adaptor and i can plsy my playlist and play songa ob youtube through the speakers , whixh are pretty good so is tbe cd player i only have 2 dislkes the clown who previously owned who made a small dent in the corner of the roof and i wish it got another 6 mpg i get av 28 modtly round towm still pretty good for an old 4 speed auto , its fun to drive , nothing to distract me big buttons and dials which is must for someone with my handicap ,
12V battery/battery seems to be a common complaint. I'm sorry but on a car over 5 years old this is normal, lead acid batteries don't last forever. Also brakes, I wonder how many are just it needed pads and discs?
Nice to see all those "Premium" marques doing so well as usual. Still never understand why people buy them knowing the shockingly unreliable record. As for Nissan, part of Renault/Mercedes now so no real surprise there.
It’s not a big deal to some John, they either want a more interesting car with a better or more engaging drive and don’t care so much about reliability.
My 2009 Kuga has just blown its turbo, it looks like I'll need a new engine, it really has been a nightmare, njce car & comfortable, looks great but avoid if you can
The previous generation Nissan Micra is in this list, which is no surprise. i had one whose clutch died at 18,000 miles and was a known fault with the car which Nissan knew about and didn't action. After that. it's been Skoda for me and no faults to report.
Probably designed for the driving school market, so expected to have the clutch replaced often - driving school cars have to have the clutch replaced every month, whether it's worn out or not.
@@Glenn1967ful Absolutely! I had a 2003 Micra and whilst the engine was absolutely fine for the first 60k the keyless ignition system played up after 5 years or so. Glad that Nissan are now free of Renault so hopefully they can go back to building cars that are wholly reliable. The Bluebird springs to mind!
My mate reckons best motor he ever owned a land rover freelander2 it was used hard towing regulary to poland a caravan .my worse car a bmw 520 bag of nails so all manufactures have issues
So many high brand cars in this list. What surprised me most was to see how many were German. I think that buying German cars no longer guarantees quality .
It's actually reasonably straight forward. Buying a car depends on budget and needs. JLR products, particularly the engines are best avoided. They offer good interiors and comfort but so do other brands with better engines. You buy Japanese if you want reliability whilst sacrificing interior quality. Honda Mazda Toyota Mitsubishi Suzuki all offer reliable petrol engines with satisfactory interiors. You buy German if you want a nice place to sit in. BMW and Mercedes provide quality interiors and their engines can be as reliable as the Japanese if well maintained. Mercedes diesel engines whilst rough will run and run and as some will know the 2.1 variant used in most diesel cars is the same engine that's been pushing the sprinter vans for well over 500k miles and more without major issues. BMW diesels are the most refined bar none and if well maintained will also return well over 200k miles under disciplined maintenence schedules. The Korean brands Hyundai Kia etc fall behind with interiors, cheap nasty plastics dominate the cabin and although the engines will prove reliable other components such as gear boxes, particularly Kia will at some point fail. If you are doing under 10k miles a year then you don't need a diesel unless towing. Sadly in current times we are paying anything towards 2k more for the same car 3 years ago, although this could become the norm although I have seen higher prices begin to fall. Now is not the time to be buying from dealerships. Negotiating a private sale on a good motor will save you a lot of money rather than putting it into a dealerships pocket.
In all honesty, I was expecting more of the French cars on this list. I know a number of people who've had plenty of electrical and mechanical faults with the French brands to put me off buying one. Maybe I misjudged them
All the normal suspects … stick with either Honda or Toyota ., with Lexus making a mention ..Range rover reliable … is like saying a low mileage Prius is kosher
Taking a survey from motoreasy oh god..lol agree with the results but don't use motoreasy- these clowns tried to repair my audi when the timing belt slipped and caused more damage had to get rid of the car in the end thanks to them.
Yes, lots more "best of" videos coming soon - not as easy as you'd think because some people want a load of the most reliable cars whilst others want to see the best to drive / best mpg / most practical etc. I'll get there!!!
Often so called suspension issues are the fault of the owner. Driving like a bell end, hitting kerbs and going too fast over speed bumps. If you're sensible with the car the suspension will usually last well.
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I’ve never been wealthy enough to own anything from Jaguar/ Landrover… which is such a relief looking at this list 😳
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10 yo jags are very reliable and generally better maintained than other brands
@@craigme2583 my mate’s 7 year old diesel XF with 60k on the clock just got scrapped (with full Jag service history) - engine ate itself and Jag basically said “yes, they sometimes do that”
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@@DefinitelyNotAGuru 😲what engine was it fitted with?
I knew a bloke who was with Nissan at Sunderland from the start. He managed the supply systems, in particular the IT side of the supply chain. Being in that role he knew the Nissan systems inside out. He let slip a secret, one which will apply to all manufacturers.
He explained that a 100% reliability model could be done but the costs would be high. Instead, they made cars with a known average failure rate and they knew exactly what things were likely to fail. Parts were made that worked but not ones that worked faultlessly. Known weak spots were manufactured in with the full knowledge of the company.
It keeps the dealerships in business I guess.
Any decent mechanical systems engineer is aware of the concept of MTBF (mean time between failure). If you know the failure rate of an individual component, then an overall model can be built - the maths gets complex!
Any competent supplier of electro/mechanical systems (Inc cars) will have calculated the optimum sweet spot of reliability vs anticipated sales vs time to market.
Markets cannot afford systems optimised solely for reliability. Nuclear power plants are a good example.
An open secret - noone builds anything that will last forever. I think the real juicy info would be what components are of limited life ascross different manufacturers
I was not aware that the 2013 model year golf tsi had an issue with turbo actuator failures and excessive oil consumption until I started having issues with mine. VAG group were probably aware but did not want the expense of issuing a recall. It seems the turbo design on later models were revised as a result.
Don't see how it was much of a secret. It's been known for US-Ford since the 1950's when they invented 'planned obsolescence'. Even in other fields of engineering, this is true: something that is 99% reliable is much more expensive in R&D and manufacturing than something 98% reliable (assuming that 100% is impossible). So they can sell something slightly less reliable for a much cheaper price and higher profit than going all-out for ultimate engineering excellence. It's one of the reasons (old) Rolls Royces were so expensive - they were engineered to be the best possible, and were modestly marketed as 'The best motor car in the world' just 6 years after formation. Today, they are still expensive and well engineered, but a lot of the expense is now on the hand-labour of trimming the interior. Something that even 'cheap' cars did in the 1920's did (there was no such thing as a genuinely cheap car in the 1920s!). RR continued where their cheaper competitors automated more and more of the production process. The new RR has always been at least as expensive as the average house.
I can never understand people not having their Cars serviced or buying cheap Tyres ? , look after the Car & the Car will look after You,
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Notice how Nissan plummeted off a cliff following the Renault tie up? Funny that 🤔
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Yet there are no Renaults on that list.
@@cjmillsnun Because there are more Nissan than Renault on the road? Just look at UK sale chart, Renault hardly made it to top 10.
I have a Nissan Primera registered in September 1999 and it cost me £1,595 15 years ago and is incredibly reliable. Renault use their parts in Nissans and have ruined the brand. As long as you distinguish between pre-Renault and Renault ownership you are fine.
I don't think the average qashqai owner knows that they're actually driving a Renault. Same with volvo, my father in law bought a 2018 V60 and he simply refused to believe that it had a ford engine in it. On the other hand I had a mitsubishi carisma 1.9 diesel with the 1870 Renault engine and it was possibly the best diesel I've ever owned, certainly better than the mondeo tdci I had.
could all the suspnsion faults be down to our dreadful roads?
Maybe, yes! and those mountainous speed bumps.
My 23 year old focus is very reliable, no problems for nearly 2 years since i payed £500 for it, though i have used "the car won't start" or "it needs a new part" excuses a few times to avoid ferrying folk about when i can't be bothered lol
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@@DefinitelyNotAGuru i don't use it much, but its always ready when i need it
This excuse is genius. I might try it myself
Did it come with a small bucket to bale out the leaking boot. There's plenty of vids on RUclips of owners trying to find and fix the leak. Poor build quality is the root cause.
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Thank you for producing a video which is hyper-relevant to me. I'm the guy who commented in your previous videos about only buying second-hand cars and driving lower mileage. It's great that you read your comments and produce content your fanbase finds relevant. Love the channel keep up the good work! 👏
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@@DefinitelyNotAGuru It's great to see the channel growing.
@@bobhob35 this video has done really well be it’s been tough going for quite a while. I’ll keep plodding on for now 👍
Just a thought ...... any chance that as cars age, especially pricey ones, many are not regularly serviced possibly leading to the unreliability scores? High Peak Autos has commented that when cars are expensive to run, like Range Rover, costly servicing may be ignored (until it goes wrong). 🤪
Yeah maybe, he’s also highlighted some ridiculous bills on them in his channel.
Back in the 1990's I lectured to a group of JLR students. These were guys on the track to become management. They all complained about the quality control in the factories where they worked.
It seems that poor quality is so ingrained that they've not fixed it over the years. Makes me wonder if they ever will fix it?
I actually doubt they will. The cars keep going up in price and popularity so why bother. The repairs keep the workshops busy I guess.
But there are people like me that will never buy them because reliability is so important to us.
I’m not sure that ‘battery’ - which I assume means it needed replacing - on cars over six years old is necessarily an indication of reliability. They really are a service item, like brake linings and spark plugs….
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My brother-in-law is a very wealthy man who loves Range Rovers. He's had about 8 or 10 of them over the last 30 years. He's careful to tell anyone who'll listen, "If you can't afford a brand new one, you certainly can't afford a new one." He rarely keeps them once the all inclusive warranty runs out, or they ned an MOT.
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I've been driving for 40 years and up until the last couple of years most of my cars have cost something between two and seven hundred. it's nice to see a car blog in my price bracket
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Informative video, thank you. My 17 year old Lexus LS430 does not recognize unreliability. It just soldiers on and on, and seems impervious to any design flaws. However, the other cars in our family are not so kind on the wallet !!!
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2008 Ford Fiesta, bought from garage 18 months old with only 1800 miles on clock. Oil changed every year and m.o.t. advisories fixed. Only wash it when I can't see out the windows, ( two or three times a year.). Now has 90.000 miles on clock and still going strong, fingers crossed. Only normal wear and tear, no big issues. Also have a Vauxhall Meriva from new, regularly serviced, well taken care of, it's my wife's. What a pile of junk that is, recently spent approximately £1500 repairing it. First and last Vauxhall.
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My 2003 E39 BMW 530i has been a solid soldier for the last 8/9 years of my ownership with nothing major ever gone wrong other than a module of some sort in the auto gearbox needing replacement £400 ish part and labour. Overall other than general servicing , battery, tyres usual wear and tear the gearbox thing to have to fix is not too sad for 9 years of excellent service
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I always said the quashqai was a bit better with the nissan own petrol engine. Nissan 1.2, 1.4 and 1.6 are very tough engines.
I now prefer suzuki they are honnest cars, ever since my first i fell in love with them. I had ignis 2000 which was written off the got a 2001 and had no issues at all. But my most favourite has got to be the liana estate 2004 1.6 petrol. I have abused this car to death and it has never ever let me. After my 2nd ignis was written off i needed a bigger car also and my uncle knows a scrap yard i can buy scrap cars from. Well i initialy went to view a 2006 focus but it sounded like rubbish when i noticed the liana, it caught my eye. He didnt want to sell it as they are rare in scrap yards but i talked him in to selling it me it. I got it for £230, failed m.o.t with fair few fails. Turns out all fails were linked to one problem. A broken bolt in the exhaust and needed a balljoint. Spent 130 on it including the price of the mot. 7 years on now 184k miles she still runs bang on. I have rescued many other cars with it, serviced every 2 years and all its ever asked me for is a clutch and thermostat. She is a battered a bruised old girl but runs like a swiss watch. Again needed a bigger car so got a scenic mk2 with 53k miles and 1 owner private sale this time. Passed mot no problems, 6 weeks later it started falling to bits. Im putting my old suzu bk on the road soon.
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I've just stumbled on this while scrolling because I've seen your stuff before but thanks for posting a video of "proper" used cars, as in the type that I buy. My 2005 Mondeo is still going but the DMF is rattly and the clutch is high and I've lost nothing in deprecation! Right, I better watch the video now! Thanks again!
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I have owned many different cars in my lifetime with varying reliability but the best one I have ever owned is my 13 year old Mazda 3. Its never let me down and starts everytime.
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In the past 10 years I've bought 2 B5.5 Passat TDi's (a 2002 and a 2005 model) with the 1.9 TDi 130bhp engine. One cost £160 and one cost £250 because they had a lot of niggly faults from poor maintenance over the years and it wasn't economically viable to pay a mechanics fees to fix them. Probably spent £400 on each sorting out various faults. I still drive the £250 one which is an immaculate black Highline with only 130k miles on it. The other one I keep MOT'd incase a family member has a car breakdown and needs a car in a hurry. The newer Passats are nowhere near as reliable as the B5.5
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The 1.9 PD engine is a world apart from the crappy 2 litre that replaced it, you were extremely lucky to find that motor for 250 quid and as you obviously know 130k is nothing for that engine, barely run in. I would love another 1.9 PD but I would rather get the bus than by another 2.0.
@@sambrooks7862 it was a really good find. Needed a full set of brakes and pipes and a few things like a fuel cooler and engine mounts. Had to spend a week detailing it too but still a very cheap car.
@@TheBlaert nice one, worth doing the work to keep that PD engine on the road.
British Leyland cars had a better record! Good video. Every motor engineer I have spoken to, on this subject, tells, never go near Range Rover/ Land Rover. And one, very respected engineer, told of the best car.....pre 2005 VW Sirocco diesel. Peace be unto you.
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I've owned two L322 Range Rovers and an L405 all have been good cars. One L322 had 120,000 miles on it when I sold it and my other 158,000 miles, my L405 is now racking up the miles . I have also owned a Jaguar XF again mileage when sold 112,000 , the only things I replaced were one wheel bearing and the battery. The worst cars I've owned have been BMW and in particular Audi, issues where electrical , brake , gearbox/torque convertor, swirl flap issues etc etc
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Passat B6, what a let down after the Passat B5 tdi. VAG diesel cars went downhill fast after 2005, ruining their reputation in one fell swoop. The introduction of DPFs and cost-cutting on engine internals killed reliability. I have 2004 Audi A4 with the Passat B5 1.9 pd tdi engine and it's still going great at 267,000 miles. No good in a LEZ though, but I'm in a rural place.
The 1.9 PD being replaced by the 2.0 was a sad day.
You are spot on ,got a 2.0tdi vw tdi with DPF, engine light and glow plug light. 1.9 tdi bored to 2.0 with a 16v head would have been the best way ,instead of making a new engine.
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I'm surprised Mini didn't feature in the list. Certain engines are known to have weak timing chains which break or get thrown. Engines coking up and EPS failure are two other issues.
Same here, huge surprise
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru Not really, N14 engines 2007-2011 were not great, N18 2012-2015 much better, I’ve owned 2 of the forma currently own a R56 2015 JCW. Servicing is key. My current mini has never had problem in 3.5 years, but is maintained correctly. By all accounts the F56 version is even better😅
@@Steve-rv1ql 👌I just know 3 people who’ve had epic issues including 2 engine swaps. If your experience has been good the.mmm n great and long may it continue. Clutch change is not exactly cheap either is it 😁
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru No it isn’t, I remember the £1700 bill quite well, only had that changed as the crank oil seal was leaking (another common problem…). This was at 65k miles so getting near end of life anyway. All done at main dealer so guaranteed for a year and no problems after fitting. Servicing and oil level checking are vital, you also need to remember that this a BMW underneath, quite expensive new, OEM parts costs don’t reduce when the car is 15 years old and over 100k miles unless you negotiate an older car discount - which can be done. Same car (cooper S) had the common timing chain tensioner problems, whole assembly changed and upgraded, £1400 from memory, BMW paid half as it had full MD service history, after I complained. So yes not the cheapest, or problem free but never been stranded, MD service has been good. I blame Peugeot for the less than great engine, the bmw bits are decent quality. Love my JCW convertible, it has no same size competitor, so will by an F56 version at some point.
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Peugeot/Citroen and Renault electrical faults. My 307 had 7 indicator stalks (com2000) in twelve months. My 307 SW was in repair more than i drove it. Even a complete rewire couldnt fix it. Ive driven Honda for the past 15 years and had zero issues… touch wood 😂
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Surprised that some of bmw diesel models haven't ended up here as well
Me too, particularly the 2.0d with the unrealistic manufacturer service intervals leading to timing chain issues etc.
We have a 2009 peugeot 207 1.6 hdi 16v. Currently on 217,000 miles and ive only had to do a coil spring, oil cooler to stop oil leak, rear wgeel bearings and brake cylinders. Recently brakes all round and its finally getting a clutch ... ive had no turbo issues at all.. and its still on same exhaust. Its on its third egr valve but must admit to they being used egr valves..
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Old motor trade joke - how can you tell a land rover owner has given up? The bonnet is down!
My suspicion is a lot of the suspension faults are the bad roads and a lot of the diesel issues are people buying cars unsuitable for their use.
Yes, very probably
Anyone noticed Japanese derived cars don't really figure in this list of bad cars. Nissan once regarded as ultra reliable has suffered now Renault are involved shame really Renault missed out to raise their srandards, instead they appear to have dragged Nissan down. I own a Suzuki Vitara my only complaint is why oh why did they fit such a tiny sunvisor! At least they put the sunglass's holder near the visor so you can easily break out the Foster Grants.
Yes, always good and bad examples and obviously they don’t always suite those looking for nice interiors or an engaging drive but if treated well a Toyota or Honda will usually be more reliable than most of the competitors.
And cheapo carpets.
Biggest problems with diesels is often all the emissions crap they are forced to have now. Usually problems with DPF or EGR.
I have a 2008 1.9 diesel Skoda Fabia. ( Pre dpf model ) And so far its proving to be very reliable. Only problem so far is minor electrical problems like electric windows.
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3 fiats (2x 500 and 1 xPanda) in the family since 2005 and a great track record. A pair of shocks changed on the Panda - £80 and a few tyres/brakes here and there. Can't fault them . Who said Fix It Again Tony? 😀 Great little city cars
👍👍 I bought my wife an old Uno for her very first car, £150 I think. Every time it rained it got a built in foot spa and changing gear was like stirring a bowl of porridge. Good times 😂
Yes. A manual Panda is a great city car and good enough for out of town too aslong as not expected to be first up steep hills.
My 8 years and 120,000 mile fault free Honda ownership shows why I'm keeping it and not buying JLR / Nissan / Stellantis.
I’ve had 2 absolute sh*those Hondas in the past. People often buy them and assume they don’t need to maintain them I think.
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru Prevention is better than cure but a decent starting point helps.
Owned many different brands but never kept one car as long as the Honda
Agreed, properly and reliably serviced these cars will run for year's. I have had 5 Honda's over many years and the only reason I changed them was because I could. They were all very good reliable runners. Out of all of them, honestly, the only thing I had as an issue was the stereo played up on one of them! Look after them and they will look after you! 😉
..as much as it may sound weird, im driving 27 years old Range Rover P38...considering its exceptional reputation of wide variety of issues, mine runs just fine with no issues other than usual wear/tear all vehicles have. Stock suspension and no modifications whatsoever...must be one made on wednesday..
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I had a Citroen with the automated manual and yes it was dreadful even when new! Surprised no FIAT in that list
Those old automated manuals felt like they were trying to kill you!
Oh the joys of modern era cars.It’s a pity we can’t get survey results for old Volvo 2 series,I owned several of them over a 25+ year period ,all lower priced s/hand and did 100,000’s of miles in them ,maintained them regularly and only failed to get to destination four times in all those miles- and one of them was caused by a stone from a tipper going through the rad on a motorway.we pay a dear price now for all the fancy gadgets and suffer the manufacturers short lifespan build policies now.
My Dad had a 1978 2 series that he purchased in 1990 with 220k on the clock, he sold it around 10 years later with 340k on the clock having just gone through it's MOT. It needed a new exhaust and a steering rack during his ownership. I saew it driving round locally about 4 years after he sold it!
Great video as always. Sorry not been commenting recently, recovering from an eye op, but I have been watching / listening.
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My Honda jazz is 8 years old , regular service and 4 new tyres that’s all it’s had . Drives like new👍
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yeah that is because "Jazz" driver pootle about at 10.3 mph EVERYWHERE they go .. :)
@@kittyhawk9707 better than posing in some big flash car that’s on hp !
@@Lamby1010 true ..I have a 1.4 08 Astra and i love it ..has cost me nothing major over the years.. don't feel the need to change it at all .. (mind you it is the 3 door sportshatch .. and i always wanted one of those)
@@kittyhawk9707 I’ve always stuck with Japanese cars my friend is a breakdown man he said stick to Japanese so I have 🤞
Glad I don't buy the expensive status symbol cars, I've always known they are more unreliable. I had a Nissan Micra which had two issues, one was the throttle body needed replacing and the other was the fan speed control resistor. I also had an Astra where the water pump failed which was quite a common fault, I have stuck to Honda since with no issues other than the odd recall
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Bugs me why anyone, let alone half the country would want to drive around in a Range Rover Evoque, nothing shouts "look at me I'm a terrible driver" more than those things.
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or look at me I think im more superior than you and that look where they expect to move from them when its their hazard like your their servant or something
I've until recently had a 2005 s type jag sold due to London ULEZ. Plus a 2005 Landrover freelander commercial owned from new. This will reluctantly also have to go due to ULEZ,Little trouble with either.
Such a shame eh!
My 2010 Chevrolet Cruze is very reliable just the normal wear and tear and I've had it 5 years and serviced every year
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Cars will cost you always. Mine I've had from new, serviced fully on time by main dealer. Cost me on consumables £750 for new disc and pads (not warned of pads being low, that caused the disc issue). New alarm siren £450, this was such an irritating issue, as there was no way to disarm it, without leaving the car unlocked with the bonnet open. If you own a Volvo over 5 years old, get the siren changed as the battery will go in it.
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I still wish that I had my peugeot 106. That little runabout was one of the best £600 that I have ever spent.
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My ex had a very high mileage 106 when we met and we said we'd sell it whenever it needed anything major doing to it. That never happened, it just kept on going. I changed oil, brake pads and tyres and it just kept going. If I remember correctly it failed an MOT on a frayed seatbelt strap which was a few quid to swap a secondhand one. Crazy how reliable and bulletproof those cars are/were.
Indeed, the golden age of the PSA group when they built simple cars which were reliable, cheap to buy and run and drove well. My wife and I had a couple of Citroen zx's back in the day which fitted that brief perfectly.
So much for progress!
@@davidlang3625 You hit the nail on the head there. So much for progress. I'm looking for a car now and the "newest" cars I'm looking at are nearly 20 years old, just because I'm looking for something reliable and I can work on myself if necessary.
I have a 1998 Buick and it will last longer than any of the cars on this list for sure. I even put a transmission worth more than the car itself into it. 138,000 miles on it now. She will go another 138,000 no problem. And by no problem, I mean, have to do the tensioner pulley again probably, the alternator for sure, probably the water pump too…😂 but it’s relatively cheap parts and I can do that stuff
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Nice to see that there aren't many electric cars in the list, the Tesla S was their first major production model, so reliability has only got better with other models.
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It really does depend on the life a car has had to endure whether its reliable or not, a well looked after car thats not been ragged about will last longer
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My Canadian 2006 Ford Focus (w/247k) hatch with an automatic transmission btw, has been basically trouble free even in our harsh winters with temp. from -10F.
The Powershift autos here are a nightmare (I think yours maybe has a different trans)
How is the Renault clio not on this list? Everyone I know who owned a clio, including myself had major problems with their electrics. Most of the people I know had 2002 ish generation of the clio and mine was a 2008 model (I don't know the names of the different clio models/generations).
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My Dacia Stepway circa 2014 is based on the Clio, its had some work done on it the four years i've had it but nothing electrical
My 52 Clio had major water leaks from the sunroof. The seats was always wet after a rainy night.
Thank you Jim 😊
Thank you Sir
I’ve had three Suzuki swifts over the past ten years and the gear box failed on two, the third one had a major issue with the brakes. I know I’m a glutton for punishment buying three 🙈😆 . I now have a 19 plate VW polo TSI and it’s been faultless so far. I’m looking at a Volvo for my next car but I need to do some research first.
You see, luck is a factor even when you follow "the rules"
The two worst cars I drove as company supplied vehicles were the Morris 1700 Ital estste and the Peugot 306 estate. Unreliable, uncomfortable and downright ugly.
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No KIa cars there. I have a 13 year old Piccanto that just does not go wrong. It had a 7 year warranty and during that time I had one fix. brake light switch. Kept teh car off the road for 15 minutes, once he had in in stock. I have since replaced it again from Ebay for buttons . easy to fix and economical . No air con nor silly features so suits me. I also have a 18 year old Mondeo estate Duratec 2L petrol. Great car being super reliable. Some people are ripped off for their bling cars.
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My 2017 Jaguar XF has been one of the most reliable cars that I have owned in over 50 years of car ownership.We have also owned quite a few Vauxhalls(Cavaliers, Astras ,Carltons Corsas)and all have them have been very cheap to run and maintain.The most unreliable car that I have owned was surprisingly a Mazda 6 . Correct and regular servicing of all vehicles pays dividends.😂
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I just have to say, I'll stick with my twenty three year old K11 Nissan Micra 😂, in the 11 years I've owned it, it has never once broken down or not started. The times I've driven passed these so-called "prestigious" cars broken down at the side of the road, particularly in winter, always makes me chuckle.
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Pretty much as expected.
Lots of VW/Audi, Mercedes and Land/Range Rovers.
Everyone I've known with a VW or Audi have suffered large garage bills.
Mercedes engines are poor .. mine suffered massive oil leaks at 90K .. told by garage this is very common with larger Mercedes engines and oil seals. However, £1600 later with all new oil seals, I think it now might be good for another 90K.
I've only ever had new German cars and they've all been amazing but know of issues with some of the older stuff, particularly diesels.
Got a vw touran 2009 2.0 tdi. Lovely car. A bit fugly but very comfortable and fairly reliable but sunroof opens and closes by itself. A small piece of the impeller has snapped off the turbo and we had a small leak which i cured. Be interesting to see how it matches up to my many Japanese cars ive owned prior to this.
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My 2011 Passat diesel is still going strong on 211k so that one surprised me.
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I have a disco 2, 04 reg, never had a breakdown, or let me down apart from it needing airbags, why you as me ? That is because I service it regularly. A lot of people buy these and try to run them on a budget as they have no extra cash after purchase, so they skip on servicing. Once that happens you can expect problems, just like you would get with any other you do the same with. Moral. Look after them, simple really.
👍 there’s so much bent service history flying around too that people can sometimes buy a car in good faith without any knowledge that it’s been abused in the past.
80% of range rovers are on the road, the rest made it home.
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I always take reliability survey's with a pinch of salt... much being dependant on how hard one drives a car or if they're serviced regularly and properly... You'll also get many "complaints" from popular cars- as more are sold !
I own an 09 C3 Picasso HDi... most would steer clear of such a thing- yet mine has been 100% reliable- bar a brake light bulb !
That said, what I do take notice of are fairly modern models with electronic faults... which are not generally service dependant and usually expensive to put right.
A little surprised the Astra's no 2 (unless it''s the 1.8 !)- though they do get hammered by everyone lol...
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Glad to see no Skoda’s in the lineup
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1:35 hit the nail on the head. People who neglect their cars are always the first to moan about how awfully unreliable they are.
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Owned my 70k mile Renault Megane RS265 Cup since almost new in 2015. No issues other than a battery replacement in 2020.
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My 2005 golf diesel has 164k miles and no warning lights on the dashboard its still going strong.
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Wow I never knew this. Nice one for the news dude. What are your thoughts about Ford Rangers? I'm thinking about getting one for All round mainly for high use on the countryside roads mainly and heavy loads?
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@@DefinitelyNotAGuru right I've got it. Nice one bro
It`s usually Range Rover 1st. Most expensive, unreliable piece of crap on the road.
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And there we go. Land Rover takes the crown yet again. Why do these things become *so* unreliable once they get past 3 to 4 years old? And what's really odd, is that they retain their value massively at 3 years old, often being worth 65% of their new cost. You'd think that their abysmal reliability record would hammer used values...... The used market for old Defenders is scary to those who buy "normal" used cars. There's an older - about 7 to 8 years old I think - Defender long wheelbase station wagon at a Honda dealer near me, and it's got a sticker price of £30k plus.....
I guess it’s good business for JLR as it coincides with the warranty expiring
Land-rover s used to be very reliable, a long time ago though lol
@@Markcain268 when they were new 😁
They are like Apple of lux off-roaders with owners of similar mentality. That's how.
They come out of the factory with the warning lights on. 😔
Great video Jim! ❤
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This list doesn't surprise me what no Hondas Mazdas Suzukis well there was one Lexus but no Toyotas just goes to show the four best nakes of cars you can buy and we did own 2004 Ford Fiesta and it was a pile of crap had a lot of problems and we bought it brand new and our latest car is a Suzuki Beleno GLX 2021 bought brand new and no problems so far and my vehicle is a 1997 Toyota Hilux a couple of issues age related but still worth it do a lot of work myself but no engine or gearbox issues
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@@DefinitelyNotAGuru I can't understand why people buy them l guess they don't research them well l didn't realise how good a car was until we bought our Beleno but they did sell well because of they were cheap the Beleno GL was one of the cheapest cars available in Australia when they sold but the two other cheapest cars now available in Australia is the small Chinese built small wanabe MG which is crap and the small crappy Kia Hyundai and Kia are trying so hard to be like Toyota but Toyotas very good reputation for reliability Kia and Hyundai will never get there as for Honda Mazda Suzuki and Toyota buy them not this European British American and South Korean crap and there us another country that did build very good and reliable vehicles that is Australia the Ford Falcon and Holden Comodore there are plenty of them still driving around 10 20 30 year old cars going down the road plus we do not have the rust issues that other countries do in Australia and in N,S.W we have yearly regestration inspections for cars over five years old so it will be interesting to see how all these Chinese South Korean cars go when they go for there first regestration inspection and the LDV are a a Chinese built vehicle and from brand new they are having rust issues my 26 year old Toyota hilux doesn't have rust issues at all never been knocked back on my yearly regestration inspection for rust l have been knocked back for age related issues and no engine issues infact l don't think there any South Korean or Chinese car that has ever done 9800000 kms there are two Toyotas l know of that sold with 9800000 kms on them on a 1997 Hilux and the other a 2002 Toyota Corolla
@@lesklower7281 I don’t think the only measure of a car is how long it will run before it’s scrapped. A lot of people want performance or driving experience over pure reliability when push comes to shove. Cars coming out of Korea now are superb by the way. People will always just buy what they want and rand the rough abd the smooth with it. As good a d feliz me as many Japanese cars have been, they’re often a little dull (big generalism I know) which puts many people off.
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru l think you should be able to buy a vehicle and the longer you own it with out to much trouble in the case of my 1997 Toyota 2wd aluminum trayed Hilux now l have been watching the market and my Toyota Hilux in its configuration is the most desirable hence they are selling for aud$5000 $6000 $7000 $8000 and one sold for $10000 how much are 1997 Hyundais and Kias are selling for whats the big deal about performance now in N.S.W the fastest you can go us 110kph and the Toyota can do that comfortably so can our Suzuki Beleno GLX and it has a 1.4litre engine and do 50mpg without any problem and may l remind you a 1997 Toyota Hilux sold that had done 980000kms for aud $500 and had no trouble why it us because of the famous 22R motor that is sitting under the bonnet reliable robust last much better than any Horrible Hyundai or Krappy Kia bring me one of these makes that have done say 400000 kms and can sell for say aud $5000
@@lesklower7281 stick to what you like mate, who cares what anyone else is into eh? 👍
Nice to see my no-frills Mitsubishi Lancer is not on this list. It's been ultra-reliable from day one.
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Have a 2015 xe love it its great on fuel and fast . Only issue was i couldn't get car open one morning but used key and started itcof fob on left side of dash at alback of steering column.
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Looks like I slipped through the cracks with my 2015 Nissan Note (USA). 7 years and still faultless. I guess I'll keep it.
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Not enough Italian cars on this list 😅 who knew they were so reliable 🤣
Or maybe not enough responses from drivers of Italian cars
The people who buy Italian cars rarely respond to surveys, because by the time their cars get to 8+ years old, they're spending so much time fixing them....or walking to places they'd rather be driving to...
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru not many survive to be 6 years old
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru Probably still awaiting a recovery truck when the survey was conducted. 😀😀
The Fiat 500 and Abarth 595 and perhaps last generation Fiat Panda seems to be the exception to the rule. Those small Fiat's built out of Poland seem to fair surprisingly well.
If you want to "discover" a true adventure, buy a Land Rover Discovery...
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my first car , i passed 2 year ago
took a year and half to find something that is nog a shitbox or high on insurance
2004 Toyota corolla T3 3dr hatchback 1.6 vvti auto( has the allows , side skirts slightly tinted windows like the T sport( dyspaxia motorskill co ordibation etc auto only licence ) 110bhp 80,000 miles paid £2500 , at time dealers were asking the same money for a base model 2001 yaris with cassete and 120,000 mile and 1.1 litre with the shitty CVT gearbox .This is the better one lot more space ( rare is this auto spec 3dr )havent seen a single one out on tbe road or online , had it 5 months so good so far touchwood , havent had to top oil off since i bought it and refilled it ., i am ocd so keep it really clean as possible , a nnew trye bought when i got puncture and bulbs replaced
12v bluetooth as
adaptor and i can plsy my playlist and play songa ob youtube through the speakers , whixh are pretty good
so is tbe cd player
i only have 2 dislkes the clown who previously owned who made a small dent in the corner of the roof and i wish it got another 6 mpg i get av 28 modtly round towm still pretty good for an old 4 speed auto , its fun to drive , nothing to distract me big buttons and dials which is must for someone with my handicap ,
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12V battery/battery seems to be a common complaint. I'm sorry but on a car over 5 years old this is normal, lead acid batteries don't last forever. Also brakes, I wonder how many are just it needed pads and discs?
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Nice to see all those "Premium" marques doing so well as usual. Still never understand why people buy them knowing the shockingly unreliable record. As for Nissan, part of Renault/Mercedes now so no real surprise there.
It’s not a big deal to some John, they either want a more interesting car with a better or more engaging drive and don’t care so much about reliability.
Most lease them.
It's just unforgivable premium cars are dogs, and have been for some time. 🙄
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I have a 1•2 Ford Fiesta . 2012 Zetec petrol 43miles a gallon.
No issues .
I have it😂 service and MOT without issues.
Can’t fault this little car 🤗
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Honda......its the future!! My 2017 hasn't cost a penny so far...touch wood!!
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Wonder if a lot of “diesel” issues are cheap supermarket fuel ?
It definitely wouldnt help, if I had a modern diesel I'd run it on super.
My 2009 Kuga has just blown its turbo, it looks like I'll need a new engine, it really has been a nightmare, njce car & comfortable, looks great but avoid if you can
Ouch!
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So relieved I still drive an old 'dumb car' with no electrics!
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The previous generation Nissan Micra is in this list, which is no surprise. i had one whose clutch died at 18,000 miles and was a known fault with the car which Nissan knew about and didn't action. After that. it's been Skoda for me and no faults to report.
Probably designed for the driving school market, so expected to have the clutch replaced often - driving school cars have to have the clutch replaced every month, whether it's worn out or not.
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Coincided with Nissan sharing parts with Renault (notably electrics).
@@mjw_S61 Some of the engines are shared with Renault as well. Latest Nissans seem to be less dependent on Renault, which should help reliability.
@@Glenn1967ful Absolutely! I had a 2003 Micra and whilst the engine was absolutely fine for the first 60k the keyless ignition system played up after 5 years or so. Glad that Nissan are now free of Renault so hopefully they can go back to building cars that are wholly reliable. The Bluebird springs to mind!
Will you do the most reliable next?
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My mate reckons best motor he ever owned a land rover freelander2 it was used hard towing regulary to poland a caravan .my worse car a bmw 520 bag of nails so all manufactures have issues
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No Hondas in that list. What a surprise - not.
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Brakes shouldn't count. They are a wear/consumable item.
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Surprised that a bmw mini isn’t on there
Me too!
Had a 2011 model Mini One, such a bag of trouble and a great investment in my bank account from BMW!
So many high brand cars in this list. What surprised me most was to see how many were German. I think that buying German cars no longer guarantees quality .
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Ahhh the Land Rovers keeping their heritage as the most faulty car in the country. Still love my L320 😂
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It's actually reasonably straight forward. Buying a car depends on budget and needs. JLR products, particularly the engines are best avoided. They offer good interiors and comfort but so do other brands with better engines. You buy Japanese if you want reliability whilst sacrificing interior quality. Honda Mazda Toyota Mitsubishi Suzuki all offer reliable petrol engines with satisfactory interiors. You buy German if you want a nice place to sit in. BMW and Mercedes provide quality interiors and their engines can be as reliable as the Japanese if well maintained. Mercedes diesel engines whilst rough will run and run and as some will know the 2.1 variant used in most diesel cars is the same engine that's been pushing the sprinter vans for well over 500k miles and more without major issues. BMW diesels are the most refined bar none and if well maintained will also return well over 200k miles under disciplined maintenence schedules. The Korean brands Hyundai Kia etc fall behind with interiors, cheap nasty plastics dominate the cabin and although the engines will prove reliable other components such as gear boxes, particularly Kia will at some point fail. If you are doing under 10k miles a year then you don't need a diesel unless towing. Sadly in current times we are paying anything towards 2k more for the same car 3 years ago, although this could become the norm although I have seen higher prices begin to fall. Now is not the time to be buying from dealerships. Negotiating a private sale on a good motor will save you a lot of money rather than putting it into a dealerships pocket.
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Dacia Duster surprises me. Dacia has had a fantastic reliability record over the years despite their cheap price.
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In all honesty, I was expecting more of the French cars on this list. I know a number of people who've had plenty of electrical and mechanical faults with the French brands to put me off buying one. Maybe I misjudged them
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All the normal suspects … stick with either Honda or Toyota ., with Lexus making a mention ..Range rover reliable … is like saying a low mileage Prius is kosher
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Taking a survey from motoreasy oh god..lol agree with the results but don't use motoreasy- these clowns tried to repair my audi when the timing belt slipped and caused more damage had to get rid of the car in the end thanks to them.
Nightmare
Brilliant video
Thanks very much
Is there a list for the best cars of this age you can do x
Yes, lots more "best of" videos coming soon - not as easy as you'd think because some people want a load of the most reliable cars whilst others want to see the best to drive / best mpg / most practical etc. I'll get there!!!
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru first video I've seen on your channel so I'm going to check out some more soon x
@@tracyfun6918 ah ok, good! There’s lots of used car best buy type videos if you go back through the channel 👍
Often so called suspension issues are the fault of the owner. Driving like a bell end, hitting kerbs and going too fast over speed bumps. If you're sensible with the car the suspension will usually last well.
Often yes but with some cars it just fails on way too many of them (Range Rover)👍
That would be my boss's three month old Range Rover.
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