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Kimura was stronger than most people. Physically. He also did meditation everyday. He also did heavy bench presses and forearm work. Kimura also advices training your body the first 6 months to really build it up. There is no use for technique if your body can't embody it. Also the name Judo is misleading. Judo is about doing the appropriate thing. It's less the soft or hard way but the effective way.
No one said conditioning is bad, but we should never prioritize strength over technical knowledge
@@Chadi we should prioritize that which is needed at that point. If your are slow training your legs is what is nedded. There is a tendency in the western mind to binary thinking. But the whole is more important than its parts. Always
I would disagree simbabwe, judo is gentle way, the more apply this philosophy to your technique the better, it has a deep meaning on multiple levels
@@bhiei the main tenet of Judo is Seiryoku-Zenyo. So it's about finding the most effektive way of doing something. There is nothing soft about a Osotogari or a Uchimata compared to a ashibarai. But they are both viable Judo techniques. Judo is about efficient effektivity.
Bench presses arent of much use to a grappler and grappling alone will make you plentt strong for that activity,stronger than the regular man
Whatever you add to your training must enhance your health, longevity and martial practice. If it doesn't improve your life across the board, it's probably not worth it. Great post Chadi!!
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Absolute bollocks. You do strength training to increase your strength. It doesn't have to do anything else. Also: Health? It has nothing to do with health. Specificity is one of the main pillars of exercise selection and you're completely disregarding it.
Strength is never a weakness, even the most basic strength improves your body and mind across the board. Without any downsides.
Everything else is hyperintellectual postulation and not based in reality.
This was very interesting. We did something similar in folkstyle wrestling growing up. Start with the calisthenics, maintain them for years, and add weights once you have control and endurance.
Yeah when I did wrestling all me did was conditioning during middle school, but I. High school we did wieght training and during the season we maintained stregth and ramped up conditioning
Meaningless mumbo jumbo. You always have "control" and "endurance". If you want to become strong in a movement you should practice that movement and not something completely different.
There is nothing magical about your bodyweight. Sometimes your bodyweight is too much, sometimes it's too little.
@@MrCmon113 Beginners have neither bodily control or good endurance. And I never implied bodyweight was magical, just that it was a useful tool for teaching the basics of isometric strength and cardiovascular endurance, both of which are needed for the sport of wrestling. Once you have the basics down, lifting weights can serve to further improve strength, which is exactly how we used them.
strength is never a weakness boys. pump it up!
👴🏻🥃 YEP WEIGHT TRAINING IS THE FOUNDATION
If you weight train properly, you're building more than size and strength. You'll also improve flexibility and balance. Also, it's a myth that you need special exercises or equipment to build functional strength. All of your basic, compound, free-weight lifts (squats, presses, deadlifts, etc.) are functional movements. Lastly, it's generally a bad idea to make strength training overly specific. For example, shadow boxing with a pair of heavy dumbbells will not improve you punching power. It's a waste of time (at best). Instead your strength and conditioning work should focus on improving physical attributes (strength, speed, power, agility, flexibility, endurance, etc.) in a more general way, with the understanding that these improvements will carry over to the sport-specific training you're already doing.
Band training is used quite often for specific land based sport training.
Bro, the first tenant of sport science is specificity. We aren't talking about general health, we are talking about training an athlete to be the best at their particular discipline. Don't spew things that you don't know anything about.
@@pyrocentury Not your bro, and the science is on my side. Overly specific strength training is problematic for a number of reasons. For example, having a baseball player practice with a weighted bat might seem like a good idea, but in fact you'll just mess up his swing, since the timing and technique are different.
@@matthewzito6130 wrong your science is not talking into account what he said specificity
@@josephjperkins973 You can't replicate sport-specific skills with barbells and dumbbells or other weighted implements. Throwing a shot put won't make you a better baseball pitcher. The technique is completely different. ... However, improving strength and power can improve athletic performance across a wide range of sports.
Indian wrestlers, Okinawan Karate guys, Shaolin ....were/ are big on exercises and uses of weights like the gada clubs, stone locks ..etc
I would add strength and muscle building is not necessarily bad thing. It helps prevent sarcopenia(learnt new word).
Yes, strength training and further specialized muscle building doing right are purely good thing. If someone and especially martial artist have them as a priority in a state where he is lacking technique and body control then it´s a bad thing. Technique and body control - having skills is always priority, contrary there are those who are lacking on physical fitness or/even strength very badly altought they have good skills in technique and body control. The balanc is needed, thats important lesson to whole life. I didn’t need to watch 11 minutes video just for that lesson and nothing more, but I hope someone need it.. I learned this lesson through errors because my ego was big and knowledge low.
While I agree with you that technique matters, combat sports are ultimately a combination of both. I am in belief that you can only move as well as your body allows. Your body needs to be in the best condition, strength and mobility wise in order for you to execute your best. Neither should be neglected
My martial arts instructor always said technique is a force multiplier. Strength and technique are important and you need to weight train with martial arts in mind.
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Judo should be aggressive and violent like war. Conditioning is most important and power. Applying at right time with good technique. Balance in technique vs strength is important but conditioning is a must. You don't have to be a Eddie hall or Thor to be an amazing judo player or warrior. They are examples abeit cool but not necessary in sports or war.
in my experience, heavy weight is useful for becoming accustomed to the feeling of bearing a heavy load. Tendon/ligament strength and flexibility are vital to powerful martial arts skill, which will require more than barbells. Ultimately, in my experience, one needs to become "strong", "explosive", "agile", "flexible" within the movements of your art - applied. Outside training needs to translate into enhancing that purposeful expression.
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Gotta love all the forms of training contributing to one essential goal.
This video has convinced me to work more on my flexibility! Thanks for teaching Chadi
Fantastic content as usual. Thanks Chedi. Freestyle wrestlers also out more emphasis on bodyweight workouts
Thank you for another AWESOME video!
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Chadi once again thank you for a wonderful documentary and your insight on martial training.
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I actually do stretches for improving my flexibility before I do bodyweight training, thank you for sharing ☺️.
Check out the description for Akimoto's exercises, and Kodokan playlist for conditioning techniques as well as the books.
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@@gioclavi1 you need to join a judo club to develope judo.
We do the exercices you show at 4:00 in our dojo, they're not only usefull, they're fun to do with your training partners/friends, wich is nice when you have to do a thing again and again! :)
As a martial artist myself, I can definitely say the Olympic lifts with moderate weights were one of the best things I've done.
i was watching a pavel tsatsouline interview. he said to stay young you can either do quick burst movements where you use the body. or you can do modest heavy lifts. so quick movements like jump squats,where there fast and quick but not so quick you injure yourself, or heavy like weighted squats, not to heavy, just enough where you respect the weight and you only need to do 3-6 reps, with very little your body still gets stronger, any more and your getting very little payout. you still get sore the next day on the few lifts and you still recover stronger. you don't have to obliterate your muscles it just makes life harder to enjoy.
I commend you for uploading this, it’s really important for hobbyists and athletes to understand physical development because some of us are driven mad by the pursuit of development.
You can mitigate most of these issues by controlling loading parameters: become familiar with your personal maximal recoverable volume, and only use complete range of motion when strength training.
Thank you
When I saw the first clip of the old Japanese Jujutsu manual, it reminded me of Farmer Burns' book on Wrestling and Physical culture!
Great video, Thanks 🙏
For men, maybe there is no problem on how to train strength, but for women, there is a concern of how the body will turn out. There are a lot to think of for women, such as certain areas become too big, too muscular, or become "manly". While women want to become stronger but also don't want to loose femininity. That is one thing all trainers must take a note, so far I don't see anyone even mention this. Of course some women choose to become muscular, like professional MMA fighters or body builders, but generally women don't want that. Most of the time it is a dilemma, must increase muscle mass to reach certain weight for competition or just forget it, if going for it there is no turn back. Believe it or not, that is also one of reason why women don't want to learn martial art. I just think that this must be addressed.
@UCA1vDbaRFDhQUzcNJc1zm3Q Squat make butts bigger isn't a myth, because it does make them bigger. My friend refuse squat for this reason no matter how I persuade her to do, she don't want to.
@@MizanQistina all she has to do is not increase her caloric intake.
If you want to become better at boxing or climbing for example, you simply will get broader shoulders after a while. But I don't think that subtracts much from the looks of a pretty woman.
Check out ancient grecoroman statues vs modern bodybuilder s there are differences... Back then the majority were wrestlers ...as judokas
Steroids are the difference plus the goal of a wrestler is performance not appearance
The main difference is steroids and more proportional core development due to not focusing on thin waist aesthetics.
Otherwise there is nothing wrong about bodybuilding style training if you know how to implement it to your training.
The dumbbell book at the beginning looks like a copy of the Swedish gymnastics manual... Swedish gymnastics and German military gymnastics had a huge impact upon Asian martial arts
strongman has some of the best carry over to martial arts because it combines heavy lifting with higher reps, moving exercises and strange objects. calisthenics is good for moving your own body, but strongman is good for moving someone else's body.
Most people don’t have training partners. A sandbag is perfect for people like me.
👴🏻🥃 POWERLIFTING AND OLYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTING HAS THE BEST CARRY OVER BAR NONE
Our Sansei back when we were young gave us a lot of exercises like this! Really amazing !
i was strong but was not flexible except under weight . i was a power lifter and then did judo .fencing, long distance running and kendo
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I'm coming back from broken ribs and I can only do some light training right now, so I'll be coming back with no real need to go back to my prior routines, so I've been looking at some different training methods that I may want to try out when I am able to really train again. I think I'm going to incorporate a few things from this video. Thanks.
Recover well my friend
I’m coming back from an injury to my martial arts will never be the same :(
This channel is the bridge to connect Japan from home...
Thanks Mr Chadi!!! 🙏
This is one of the first videos that explains this in good detail , which is important . Thanks
This is how I was taught in judo ... In Anaheim ... It really works....
This video is beautiful, now I undertood, I need put priority to my flexibility to have speed in my punches, thank you so much my friend.
You must NEVER do that stupid neck exercise at 33 seconds in, it might kill you.
That’s why they are holding them. don’t do this by yourself .
@@jassimarsingh6505 buy a neck harness, bodyweight neck i(e Bridge) exercises are a bad idea, the bone that joins your brain is literally the thickness of a pencil, it snaps like one too.
Everything should be supplemental no harm in doing strength an conditionin alot elite guys do it but technique stretching an mobility coordination are very important functional training
Fantastic post Chadi. Thanks!
Hey brother, dropping in to say thanks. Been watching your videos for years. My eldest just qualified to represent USA at the Pan Ams this year. Hope to keep that depleting spirit alive ! Thanks for all your cool videos! BTW my kids favorite judoka is Ono. When he wins, he rolls his neck and swags like Ono on purpose. 😅
Hell yeah! So happy for you and ypur son, best of luck
Deserves more attention, very informative with great clips
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Solid advice. Especially for older and de-trained people. 👍
Another classic educational podcast hits home as now back in the gym OSS!
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Don’t know why the thank you is in Chinese 😂
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Very interesting video. Thanks.
The main problem I see with the so-called "fitness industry", is they put a lot of focus into bodybuilding... Which, I classify as a form of modelling instead of fitness. This also includes my dislike for eating a ridiculous amount of calories, and using machines. Regardless, if your training in judo, another martial art, or just want to get in shape, I really believe in kettlebells are the way to go.
Kettlebells are good but no better than dumbbells and far more expensive
@@scarred10 kettlebels are way better for certain movements
@@scarred10 you really don't know what the benefits are training with kettlebells
@@Liam1991 you reckon.Ive a degree in sports rehabiliation and worked as a personal trainer for 20 yrs,now Im a physician associate in orthopedics so I know just a little bit about exercise physiology.The kettle bell makes explosive exercise like swings and snatches easier to do but arent necessarily any better than regular free weights ,in fact theyre much inferior for explosive power/strength because theyre far too light for stronger people.
@@scarred10 to start of with, you can get heavier weights than 48kg nowadays. And the great thing about kettlebells over free weights, is you can you do 1 or multiple exercises without putting the weight down. If you look at kettlebell sport, you've got people snatching 2 32kg kettlebells in 10 minutes... And some people now trying to go beyond 10 minutes...
There is a nasty ringing that persists throughout the video. It's quite annoying and takes away from the video. Would you please try to fix that? Besides that, this video is incredibly educational and enjoyable.
what alot of ppl forget about training for bjj or judo, is the muscles are different, sqeezing on a rnc is a isometric movement
Cool video man! These exercises are frilly a gem
Thank you for this amazing video, Chadi. I just achieved my purple belt in MMA last night. Two hours without any water breaks and I lost my whole entire breath but I didn't give up and I manage to survive the whole purple belt test for two hour to receive my purple belt. Goodbye to basic level, and hello to intermediate level.
I never imagined that MMA would have a belt system...
@@aluisiofsjr me to
@@aluisiofsjr it's a different type of MMA class. They do teach BJJ in Premium and Elite class. I'm in premium class now but we're learning double stick closed chamber. Probably next month or the following month in premium class, I get to learn Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. My main fighting style is Jeet Kune Do, and yes I know people do not consider JKD as MMA but I do since I grew up idolizing Bruce Lee and he's the father of MMA. I know most of you would disagree. But me on the other, I consider Jeet Kune Do as MMA
@@aluisiofsjr the belt system are different than other martial arts classes
There are no belts in mma,its just a way for your school to retain members.
great video. great talk !!!
Thank you for sharing.
I seen Bruce Lee do a 1arm handstand in the long Beach California!! Photo with the green hornet star!!
👴🏻🥃 BRUCE LEE DIDNT DO NO REAL WEIGHT LIFTING , IF BRUCE LEE DID DEADLIFTS, BENCH PRESSES, BACK SQUATS AND POWER CLEANS HE WOULD BE ALIVE TODAY.
Good videos Chadi keep it up, quick question Do you any info about Koppojutsu or Aikijujutsu??
He made a clip called daito ryu that is aki jujitsu but not the bare handed stuff it has a few sword disarm stuff n address mutiple people.n just total combat yea check it out
my old taekwondo instructor (who did a bit of Judo to teach to the military) is old asf but the man is pretty strong and flexible for someone at his age, still being able to do good rounds of sparring and is quite agile, when I asked how is he still that strong he replied with posture, stretching, and calisthenics
Fantastic video
Great video!
Awesome content love the diversity 👍👍 Joe Bluming was a BIG practioner of modern resistance training . Also was good enough to beat INOKUMA and KAMINAGA in a line up for 4 th Dan . Challenged Geesink many times the Dutch Judo association banned him from competing as a professional so he never fought Geesink
Amazing content bro
You can never truly win with just strength alone. Strongmen have been submitted and tossed around by Judoka and JuJutsu/JiuJitsu practitioners. Skill overcomes physical odds. Brain over brawn. Masahiki Kimura had it all. He had strength, flexibility, technique, experience, strategy and just over all heart.
Just to be fair, there have also been instances where strong men have beaten high level judo and jujitsu practitioners as well so conditioning and strength is also a key element...
@@jonthemagician666 No dude. No such video or evidence of that, exists. 🤦♂️😂
@@Shadowrulzalways bro what literally just google it, you can't beat a guy you can't phisically grab.
Strenght is always an advantage.
@@cahallo5964 I did. Still nothing. You guys are making this up. 🤦♂️😂
I can show you more than enough evidence that completely debunks your claim.
@@Shadowrulzalways Pudzianowski and Bob Sapp are prime examples of strength over coming skill. Pudzianowski wiped out Rolles Gracie (among others) and Sapp beat Earnesto Hoost (as well as other much better and more experienced fighters). This was because they were that much stronger, not more skilled. Strength alone can, and does, make that much of a difference.
Superb Content!!
Is there a difference between the physical training programs of male and female judoka in France? The French women seem to have a lot of explosive power.
Lachlan Giles - the 77kilo competitor that submitted 3 over 100 kilo grapplers at the 2019 ADCC had a good discussion series with an athlete development director on the value or lack of it on physical training for grappling on his channel. It was noted that men tend to increase in strength just by playing a sport itself, but women tend to only gain strength through strength training. As such, Lachlan doesn't lift weights (he does stretch), but his wife who also competed at ADCC does lift. For men he recommends lifting for larger people who are bigger then their training partners as they need to develop strength to use in competition against people of their own size.
I'm not sure, my guess would be women have a harder time developing the upper body compared to men, but easier to develop the lower and thus grappling alone might not be enough to get them more muscular
Really nice video. I am not a judoka or martial artist but I have been in Kabbadi which is a Team Contact grappling sport. I also had my fair share of injuries and I have worked around them. Now I am into lifting big weights aspiring more towards powerlifting. I do agree flexibility and mobility can give an edge but I don't agree it is a necessary prerequisite for Lifting weights or starting any sport because the law of specificity plays a huge role in the performance of the task. To get better at something there is no substitute for repetition. Also on the contrary there are also many individual factors that determine whether someone is able to perform a movement or not.
There is general fitness and there is specific fitness and doing specific movements alone without general movements is a recipe for disaster whereas improving one's general fitness will help one to perform at their best levels providing they are technically proficient.
If someone is hurting himself/herself while lifting weights in addition to practicing their sport in this judo then it's more probably his/her stress cup ( Analogy used by Greg Lehman for denoting own's capacity to do more work) is full due to multitude of reasons and in most cases, it is due to poor programming & organizing of training. In that case, they either have to cut short their training which is not recommended or they have to make their stress cup bigger by proper periodized training, recovery, and nutrition so that they can handle more training volume in general which will help to translate to better sports performance.
People who are into sports don't need to train like a powerlifter or a bodybuilder for those training methodologies don't add much value to someone like a grappler in terms of sports performance. But lifting weights with proper programming and periodization is going to take's one's game to a whole new level. A Proper periodized combination of sprinting, jumping, hopping, plyometrics along with high-velocity barbell movements with 70% 1RM will compliment sports-specific training and can really improve all the qualities needed for the sport and more importantly, the athlete will retain his longevity which forms the basis of an athletic career. The best example for this is a UFC fighter George St Pierre who really had a long athletic career thanks to his smart training and smart coach like Firas Zahabi.
This is my opinion and this comes from years of training, learning new information, recovering from injuries and experience. I may be wrong too and I am ready to update based on new emerging information.
I've been training calithenics 2x a week full body, 2x a week stretching and jiujitsu 3x a week, for some reason streching is the key for jiujitsu, to judo as well. Its important to mention that you get better at judo or jiujitsu PRACTICING judo or jiujitsu, the "behind the curtain" things are important as well, but the most important is to practice in my opinion
You will get killed in judo with just only technique
What stretching / mobility routine do you find is most helpful with judo and Jiu Jitsu?
@@Joyride37 yoga
@@channi58 is there a specific kind of yoga you gravitate towards? Genuinely curious, since there’s various kinds like hatha and yin and whatnot
@@Joyride37 I am not an expert. I do know yoga is a all around exercise starting from simple stretches to deep breathing and very advanced stretch holds. Also learned khusti exercises are from yoga. Indian wrestlers are very flexible and agile irrespective of weight and body composition I.e. amount of fat.
Great content
@chadi Excellent video brother! Judo has been ahead of the game in terms of strength and conditioning! On book I highly recommend and have read several times is Training for competition Judo, by Hayward Nishioka
Not really. Try reading Karl Gotch Training Bible used by many Japanese Grapplers regarding Kushti Exercises. Kushti used by India and Iran is far advanced.
They way i look at it. What is the goal here ?. Shining in competition perhaps even at the best levels is something very different from being your average recreational Judo liker. Yes some conditioning is very advisable. But keep in mind that realy intensive conditioning also Comes with higher risk of injury. A top level competitor will and even has to take that chance. But most of us are not that and have a job awaiting us in the morning... Also keep in mind that when we armire those top players Besides their extreme devotion and hard work. Mother nature gave them a set of genes/body you are not likely to have. For every but you see competing at those levels there are many many more who were just as dedicated perhaps even more so but who's bodies simply gave out somewhere along the way...
Amazing video, first time I see that Saito video, I have a similar bodytype but I am under 100 kilos and sadly I am not very fast but now in pandemia I only have done kettlebells and solo excercises as I don´t have heavy weights and it´s a good time to research on it.
I have been more in judo but I love BJJ too, the thing is that some guys are so freaking ignorant about Kimura, he was great and not a 2 meter monster , he had technique and great conditioning and between people that train that makes a difference. Even Carlson used to talk about that.
Thanks so much
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Can you do a video on the history and use of uchikomi band types and exercises?
Weightlifting (clean and jerk, power clean, squat clean, snatch, power snatch . . .) is the best for Judo.
very interesting. thank yew
My perspective and what Ive watched from sports scientists is that you typically want to start with barbell compounds to build a strength base but have your first months be technique focused (full rom) like 5lbs jump witha comfortable working weight pretty much strong lifts 5x5 then have a more general program that involves those original super technical movements but also involves isolations to work on specific weaknesses after 2-5 years then involve power work like Olympic lifts, band simulation throw, medicine ball throws, etc
While doing all this you should be doing stretches to increase rom
Also you need to know how to move with weight so that's why I think you need it because it'll benefit outside of just judo
And if you are going to weight train make sure it's first if you show up to judo fatigued it shows character
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Why would one wait to train with weights until you've mastered your body weight? Lifting weights would get you to be able to handle more than your own body weight, and at a quicker pace
it is about functional strength. if you are training for combat, being bulky isn't a huge advantage over being able to handle your own body weight. one rep max or hypertrophy will boost strength faster but strength isn't the only aspect of fitness. benching 200 lbs when you can do more than 2-3 pull-ups can cause imbalances and make you prone to injury
@@NicholasMoskov1 by no means am I saying you should only do one rep maxes. However, if you don’t lift weights, I’d be inclined to say you’re at a strength disadvantage. There are key scenarios where having superior strength to the opponent is vital. Incorporate weights into your training (you won’t get bulky enough to where it’s hindering you, to do that you’d actually have to be using “supplements”), your overall performance will improve.
"Functional strength" is my key word to avoid a course. It almost always means "not functional". People use that word when they do random shit. For example that one arm handstand. That makes you better at one armed hand stands, but it's not efficient at increasing your strength or for improving anything in your sports. It's a very specific skill. A pull up is way more "functional" for most people's strength goals.
I have to disagree with you, a one handed handstand would build incredible isometric strength in your stabilizing muscles as well as body control. On handed pushups for example are far more functional for sports because they use muscles that a aren't used in the big 5 lifts. I used to hate the word functional strength when I was a weightlifter, but when I started judo I learned that it was a real thing because people who were significantly less strong than me we able to use their bodies much better than me. Strength accross different plains of movement, explosiveness, isometric strength aren't things you get from standard weight routines.
One thing I would recommend you try are judo push-ups, I think they build a lot of strength in ways that are often neglected.
All this being said, most people who talk about functional strength don't know how to do it well. Like crossfitters doing kipping pull-ups instead of regular pull ups.
@@henryc7548 This is all too true. Thanks for your comment. Increasing isometric strength is the essence of "functional training" which is so good for controlling the body while practicing martial arts
Exactly. Functionial training is basically marketing or snake oil.
Oldschool functionial training exist because people didbt understand how muscles and the body work, and modern day functional training scams you out of your money.
Time and time again, it proven that general/basic strength training (barbells, dumbbells and calisthenics) is the best thing to do to improve your strength and help athlethicism
@@henryc7548 you're talking about specific movements. If you weightlifted you already had an edge on someone who didnt. And once both of you start judo, you will adapt faster. You already have the necessary strength, what u lack then is neurological connection for specific movements and resistance (isometrics) wich comes with practice.
Basic strength training on top of anything else you do, will almost always be superior. At least for the majority of everyday people like me and many others
@@TheInsaiyan ruclips.net/video/3nAVLrevcmE/видео.html&ab_channel=G%C3%BCre%C5%9Fiyorum 2:24 Alexander KArelin one of the best wrestlers of all time, whose training was probably done by the best trainers that one of the most powerful countries in the world could afford, making sure he doesnt skip his functional training.
I could source up much more evidence if you would like, but athletes in dynamic sport pretty much always train this way.
I gave personal experience and authoritative examples.
What it comes down to is this: your body has at least 650 different skeletal muscles, and there are many different kinds of strength. strength endurance, isometic strength, explosive strength a well known few and all require their own training to reach full potential. That is to say that getting really good at regular bench press will make you isometricly stronger and more explosive, but not as much as training isometics or explosive movements will. There are even more complicating factors and facets and to think you can be well rounded with a basic routine involving less than 20 binary (up, down, up, down) exercises is unrealistic
but to put the nail in the coffin, think about 5 x 5 routines doing the big 5 exercises, non of them use any twisting motions or lateral balance, because to do so with such heavy weights would be dangerous. Balance is used for everything athletic, and twisting motions are used for about half of anything athletic.
I'm so glad that MMA is back. It brings back the knowledge that we have forgotten.
This is a metaphor.
Today, in the gym, there is a thing called The Glute Hamstring Machine.
Back in the days, bodybuilders didn't have that machine. You can see it in an Arnold Schwarzenegger's video Shape up with Arnold. They just have a bench. The bench is not tall enough, so they put cinder blocks underneath it to raise it. And somebody would hold somebody's legs to do a hyper extension.
Same with a Natilus bench press machine. First there was the push up. Then floor bench press. Then bench bench press. Then machine bench press.
Machines have disconnected us from ourselves, our ingenuity, and each other.
Fighting forces us to understand ourselves and each other, like we used to do.
Someday I'll open a primarily partner assisted gym. And I'll call it the Ambiguously Gay Duo Gym.
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The "gym" lives on correctly in "gymnastics".
Gymkata is a real thing!
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@@Chadi I DONT CARE WUT U SAID , DEADLIFTS, BENCH PRESSES , BACK SQUATS AND POWER CLEANS CAN MAKE U A CHAMPION JODAKAN BAR NONE
Binge watching today. Catching up. You are absolutely right Chadi. Learn technique, gain flexibility within the techniques. Then, if necessary, add muscle mass. Only rare, gifted individuals, can do all three at the same time, and make progress. Don't lie to yourself, you are not so gifted. As we train in anything, our body and brain both age. Initially we have great potential flexibility in both mind and body. As we grow older we will lose both. In training we develop "grooves in trhe neural pathways", this is the skill we seek, the reflex is both physical and mental, it is a pattern we induce in the nervous system and brain. Adding strength to any pattern is far easier than trying carve a pattern out of a solid mass. The brain has a precious gift known as cerebral plasticity, just remember neurochemistry is tricky. If you want speed, fluid technique, and longevity. You should develop the skill first, and trust that muscle memory will not fail you. You may fail to create a deep enough groove in the neural pathway, but they shall not fail you, IF you trained correctly first! The body/mind is designed to adapt to stress. I trained mercilessly for many years, but I never ate well, nor slept, nor rested sufficiently. However my skills saved my life several times. Because I invested heavily in technique first! Without relaxed flexibility, and motor coordination, I would have been murdered more than once. When I turned 56 I slowed down, ate well, and finally slept as I should have all those years before. Two years later I looked in a mirror, and I was in shock at what I saw! So I got on a scale for the first time in fifteen years or more.
I went from 140lbs to 260lbs, in two years of no training! My body, my nervous system, remembered, and I grew. I look like a gym rat now, an old gym rat, but still a gym rat. You can clearly see the years of training, both in technique, and weight training. Shotokahn, Tang Soo Do, Northern Shaolin and Wu Tang arts. Despite the extra hundred pounds of fat and muscle, or perhaps because of it, my art has never been better. You are perfectly correct Chadi.Build a relationship with the body and the mind, before you start piling the weight on. Everyone is different, so I tailor each students training for them. There is everything right with having muscle tissue. Just learn technique first and foremost, before cerebral plasticity slows down, mostly due to neuronal pruning. Muscle is the icing on the cake of the true martial artist. Thanks again for sharing with us.
( I love all these old training films.)
Peace.
Love the video of Saito slinging stacks.
Yoga is very beneficial for traditional martial artstraining and conditioning.
They both promote proper breathing, flexibility, (entire body), core strength and has most of the benefits of calisthenics
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As a karate ka,I can see that much of their training is to strenghten their connective tissue that surrounds the muscles, instead of just training the muscles. The result is a more elastic force.That is why hojo undo and Sanchin is important in karate.
Makes sense because judo throws are like loading tension on a rubber band then releasing it explosively suddenly on your partner.
if you're doing full body, heavy lifts you're going to strengthen everything...not just your muscles.
@@ramsaybolton9151 Yes and no, to fully train the connective tissue you have to "relax" the muscles so the connective tissue gets fully activated.
@@Amundsen8635 What are you talking about m8? Go do some stone throws, keg toss, sled pulls, deadlifts, squats, overhead press, bench press, cleans, snatches, weighted dips, pull ups and lunges, medicine ball throws etc. Come on man if we would compare FULL BODY strength of an amateur strongman vs amateur jiu-jitsu practitioner the strongman would have stronger and dense ligaments, tendons and muscles.
A lot of martial arts purists like the imagine all forms of weighted training are bodybuilding. An Olympic weight lifter will outperform most other athletes in their respective pure athletic fields for the first few years as their raw body weight to strength ratio surpasses the technical aspects of the other disciplines.
Bodyweight style training is valid but NEEDS to be paired with weighted training for real world effectiveness. In life you are not only going to deal with other people your bodyweight or who will give you the time to utilize your agility. I was tapping out brown belts in rolling sessions my first week because at 195 I was 2-2.5x stronger than them and much more powerful. Yes I would gas out if I let it drag on but if someone know they're a sprinter why would they try and let the jogger set the pace? Kimuras exist for fast and strong people.
@@ramsaybolton9151 Yes, of course, that is excellent training and will produce a terrific strong body. Different systems have different approaches to one another. From the old karate standpoint of view, you are training the connective tissue by trying not to use/isolate your muscles while training the connective tissue. In combat, you of course use your whole body and you also combine muscle/connective tissue training as a whole. Different methods and theories for different systems.
I just watched the Judoka documentary too!
I love this video
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Where did you get the training footage from there doing the most scenic cardio I’ve ever seen
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We do the bear crawl with someone on top like 4:42. And it’s brutal!
some of these moves are better suited for the bedroom rather than the dojo lool
I think adding some yoga could be beneficial for martial arts. I also noticed while doing yoga. Some of the yoga poses. Mimic Jiu-Jitsu moves. Do you think there's a correlation between the two?
Yoga was for warriors don't be fooled
@@channi58 well if yoga was used by Warriors. And it was practice as a wrestling art. That's what makes me believe some of the ground Arts we have today might have originated from India.
@@restistance4387 wrestling is huge in north India and Central India. Watch on RUclips its called khusti. In fact looks like judo without a gi. Many khusti legends that were feared by other styles, historically around late 1800s and early to mid 1900s.
@@channi58 thank you for your Insight I'll check that out
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good stuff
oh shit this is my old judo school's stuff from like 3:30 on lol this stuff was brutal. Easily hardest workouts I've ever done.
I do judo and recognize this too
@@picklemeow the sh*t works tho
A ciência do esporte evoluiu muito recentemente. Tanto na questão do desenvolvimento a médio e curto prazo. A questão está em fortalecer centro do corpo para as extremidades, desenvolver mobilidade, explorar as vias energéticas, a potência (no caso das lutas), e os gestos motores alternando intensidade e volume. Essa é a base da formação de um atleta.
Truth be told
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Counterpoint: I have a hard time with the definition of ancient training manuals. Yes for our lifetime that was a long time ago but there are plenty of places and documentation that go back pre 明治維新 (Meiji restoration) 1868. In that time period of the 1870s there was a big physical culture movement. You gave lip service to the Indian part but there's a whole lot that was going on that was influencing each other such as the German system of gymnastics and the light gymnastics or swedish system. The example book that you gave is most definitely so similar to the light dumbbell workout of someone like Eugene Sandow (admittedly Eugene Sandow was the person that popularized the light dumbbells and yoga as exercise but he had learned the light dumbbells both from his travels in India and also from other strong men of the era).
Nitobe Inazō - famous for writing Bushido the soul of Japan - documents a lot of what happened during the beginning of the Meiji restoration and how the samurai traditions moved post Tokugawa shogunate.
Folks like Jagaro Kano we're implicit in moving from the samurai traditions to the modern sport versions. During that time they were looking around for other inspirations of how to move warrior traditions into the modern era. Enter physical culture movement. It would have been huge worldwide when the Olympics started. By the time you hit the 1940 bid for Tokyo to host (of course war broke out) you would have lots of influence from the outside world of what else was going on with other physical pursuits.
By saying this also just not take away from the accomplishments of codifying systems of the old world and bringing them into modernity. Just like in the same way it doesn't take away from someone helping you organize a room it's still your stuff in that room.
One of the most comprehensive books that you can see where The European physical culture movement got many of their ideas from was through the colonialism of India. The encyclopedia of Indian physical culture shows their dumbbell work, Indian clubs, Mace and postures. The way they were put together in the European systems made a lot of sense so it also makes sense that Japanese Meiji restorationists would have taken from available books and put together training things that worked for them. Hojo undo of karate is a fantastic example that bridge is a lot of the gaps of the old world, gripping the tops of heavy jars, and more modern tan (担), that would be very similar to a barbell with weights.
My argument: that using the word ancient really demands older styles of training that aren't so obviously something that could be from the outside world even if they were influenced by other cultures.
You listed a bunch of stuff. Do you have a basic workout/training routine for beginners? Asking for a friend.
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