How to control minion waves like high ELO players - Freezing, Slow Pushing, & Fast Pushing Guide

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  • Опубликовано: 21 дек 2024

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  • @BlitzEsportsLoL
    @BlitzEsportsLoL  6 лет назад +140

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    • @garicajohnny5111
      @garicajohnny5111 6 лет назад +2

      This don’t help me at all i jungle

    • @monsieurbobblehead3854
      @monsieurbobblehead3854 6 лет назад +2

      I once played against a Diana that kept trying to push the wave under my tower, but me, playing Veigar, just held it right in front of the tower and wound up with nearly double her cs throughout most of the game.

    • @shailasris1669
      @shailasris1669 6 лет назад +1

      Does it work on WIN.XP ???

    • @SuicidelG
      @SuicidelG 6 лет назад

      Nothing loads works like shit

    • @tommymejiaES
      @tommymejiaES 6 лет назад +1

      Are you planning to make an updated video with the changes to the minions on the previous patch? I really liked this one, thank you :)

  • @gonzalinator8764
    @gonzalinator8764 6 лет назад +426

    When you have to study for a test, and you study this instead.

    • @muundus7
      @muundus7 4 года назад +7

      Described me perfectly rn

    • @ot5936
      @ot5936 4 года назад +3

      @@muundus7 me too xD

    • @vinceblas606
      @vinceblas606 3 года назад +2

      Truee

    • @nobodylol6494
      @nobodylol6494 3 года назад +1

      The feeling is the same tbh

    • @kaeyaalberich1605
      @kaeyaalberich1605 3 года назад +1

      my test is tmr and im studying this 😭😭

  • @XXANDERALEXX
    @XXANDERALEXX 6 лет назад +2578

    I've been playing League for over 4 years and i never noticed that post 20 minutes all the waves have cannons lol

    • @anasothman3884
      @anasothman3884 6 лет назад +147

      NextXander this is new only like last year or so, this was done to reduce average game time I think, also they made it if you lose 3 inhibs each wave has two super minions.

    • @XXANDERALEXX
      @XXANDERALEXX 6 лет назад +13

      Oh, first i assumed it was added with the rift visual update or something, at least i didnt miss it for as much as i thought xd

    • @alveolate
      @alveolate 6 лет назад +80

      i've played for 8 years and i still haven't noticed this lmao.
      league changes too much too often and they don't really emphasise any of the changes. even reading patch notes becomes a chore sometimes FeelsBadMan

    • @Sarberos909
      @Sarberos909 6 лет назад +31

      each wave having 2 super minions after all inhib down has been a thing for years

    • @missedqs4575
      @missedqs4575 6 лет назад

      Gregory Samuel Teo what do u mean 8 years

  • @dr.j.redacted3679
    @dr.j.redacted3679 6 лет назад +1887

    So basically
    Freezing= only last hits
    Slow push= kill casters
    Fast push= kill melee

    • @felixthefox100
      @felixthefox100 5 лет назад +218

      Thank you, that summary is a lot easier to remember

    • @turboswordsman9693
      @turboswordsman9693 5 лет назад +45

      I was wondering do we kill cannons at all???

    • @heliam_4688
      @heliam_4688 5 лет назад +79

      @@turboswordsman9693 it's because they are not always there so I think it's like upgrading your ult, do it every time you can

    • @heliam_4688
      @heliam_4688 5 лет назад +6

      @@turboswordsman9693 so kill him always

    • @Crashassin
      @Crashassin 5 лет назад +4

      why dont kill every minion?

  • @gerrymin6298
    @gerrymin6298 6 лет назад +909

    my silver brain tells me to just kill minions

    • @luizpaulo8220
      @luizpaulo8220 6 лет назад +261

      my bronze brain tells me to just kill myself

    • @branchy7159
      @branchy7159 6 лет назад +167

      my unranked brain says riot is introducing iron division soon

    • @_wayward_494
      @_wayward_494 6 лет назад +55

      @@branchy7159 im too nervous to even play blind pick ffs whats wrong with me

    • @rociopaoloni5080
      @rociopaoloni5080 6 лет назад +17

      @Silver Grin Dude I was the same until I started playing with a friend. First against bots, then a couple of aram by myself (for some reason they feel safer to play, it can be its random nature and shorter time). After a few weeks I already wanted to play blind by myself because bots were boring at that point.

    • @_wayward_494
      @_wayward_494 6 лет назад +32

      ive been playing bots for almost a year now. Swear to god even online I'm shy and no one can even see me. I just get waaaay too nervous to play blind pick, let alone even ranked

  • @Rajunganclips
    @Rajunganclips 6 лет назад +4666

    my bronze brain can't understand this

    • @giannisgiannis47
      @giannisgiannis47 6 лет назад +194

      Ariel Gemilang Jaya probably because you don't have one

    • @zorenzki
      @zorenzki 6 лет назад +74

      OHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    • @harrycrab1677
      @harrycrab1677 6 лет назад +119

      You call that an "OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH?" ITS MORE LIKE OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    • @jahee6073
      @jahee6073 6 лет назад +4

      merlin :3

    • @yusifrady3298
      @yusifrady3298 6 лет назад +8

      Roasting hand activated lol

  • @blackink4554
    @blackink4554 6 лет назад +245

    Looking at the minions only looks kinda cute lol

    • @yukooi
      @yukooi 4 года назад +1

      I have killed millions oh no

  • @breebls8167
    @breebls8167 6 лет назад +828

    Oh my god... MINIONS DON’T HAVE FEET?!

    • @abovenbeyond2826
      @abovenbeyond2826 6 лет назад +3

      Eggplant Edwardson What the hell?

    • @heartofthefluft8541
      @heartofthefluft8541 5 лет назад +6

      They have them, just these are hidden to our eyes (?)

    • @xelitez6438
      @xelitez6438 5 лет назад +17

      Minions = Pewdiepie confirmed

    • @thecupcakeconspiracy5769
      @thecupcakeconspiracy5769 5 лет назад +15

      when the only information you learn from this video is that minions don't have feet ^_^

  • @t3chn0dr0n3
    @t3chn0dr0n3 6 лет назад +425

    Just a friendly advice, don't try to do slowpushing on low elo, unless you're a splitpushing smurf yourself or you're 5-pre. You'll just donate 20-30 CS to the enemy who goes there and your team will take absolutely no advantage.

    • @Sieni3000
      @Sieni3000 6 лет назад +3

      Well said dude

    • @Trajce_Hybrid
      @Trajce_Hybrid 6 лет назад +34

      Il do it and than solo drake

    • @V.o.i.d.v
      @V.o.i.d.v 6 лет назад +2

      Can you please elaborate? In what way does this affect top? If I'm Jax against teemo and kill casters first, I build up more casters than the teemo, unless teemo kills me and clears. So if I'm Jax against a better matchup that doesn't kill me, say, maokai, and I freeze lane, then slow push, do I still gift him cs if I keep this up for 10 minutes? Because I feel like it honestly depends on matchups, but I'm just silver 4 so I'd love to have this explained in more detail!

    • @Just4StreamingIG
      @Just4StreamingIG 6 лет назад +45

      ​@@V.o.i.d.v It doesn't affect top alone, in low elo, people don't know when to capitalize, slow pushing will only give whoever rotates to top lane a good number of Cs, Exp and Gold, no one will take advantage of that rotation and thus, causing a loss for you.
      Let's say you slowpush top lane, the top laner rotates to clear the wave, this makes for a 4 v 5 situation down at dragon or force a fight and take objectives like mid turret or bot turret etc, in low elo, they don't think that, slowpushing will only go to waste and give the opposing laner some freeby.
      Aside from what is mentioned in the previous comment, the only way that I see it working in low elo is that if you are a hard splitpusher like Udyr, Tryndamere or Jax etc, you slowpush top lane and have someone rotate there, it then opens a window for you to solo an objective like getting a turret or dragon. You can also use it to bait someone who is behind, the person who is behind will most likely rotate to the free minion wave and you can pick them.

    • @steveempiremantra2120
      @steveempiremantra2120 5 лет назад +4

      @@Just4StreamingIG what should I do then

  • @Orangecatty
    @Orangecatty 6 лет назад +3

    Might be a little bit late to the party, but fully understanding each thing mentioned in this video is NOT, at all, that simple and basic. I'm considered a high elo, but I still have to dissect each number to actually understand, and am still learning from this video. For that, thank you for this quality content!

  • @hiimrem422
    @hiimrem422 6 лет назад +187

    I love this series! Please make more league content like this for us players to learn more at the game. And as always quality content from Blitz!

    • @alveolate
      @alveolate 6 лет назад

      good guy blitz helping bronze/silver promos

  • @orlandoleibundgut4257
    @orlandoleibundgut4257 6 лет назад +727

    5:41 was I the only one who got confused that she said the same thing twice?

    • @SpiritSSL
      @SpiritSSL 6 лет назад +16

      kingdra deck Yea I thought was weird asf

    • @unclebard3916
      @unclebard3916 6 лет назад +145

      probably she just said something wrong so she said it again. But the editor forgot to edit it out.

    • @exebba7523
      @exebba7523 6 лет назад +92

      i didnt even notice lmao

    • @austinkim9402
      @austinkim9402 6 лет назад +29

      this is like the "the the" thing

    • @bearyboy9088
      @bearyboy9088 6 лет назад

      Nah

  • @ptotheetother
    @ptotheetother 4 года назад +32

    I had to rewatch this 10 times cause I started thinking of something else.

  • @Jothaxify
    @Jothaxify 3 года назад

    This is the best wave control guide on youtube. Period.

  • @blutwirbel3180
    @blutwirbel3180 2 года назад

    This is the second time Im watching this video. The first time I listened but only got gibberish out of it. Now, after 50 more hours and waaay too many guide videos referencing wave tactics, I finally got the main parts from this vid

  • @ronnysantana4155
    @ronnysantana4155 6 лет назад +4

    Loooved the table of content with timestamps what a great idea.

  • @cheryl9809
    @cheryl9809 6 лет назад +60

    Wait a minute, minions float? THEY DON'T HAVE LEGS?!

  • @kilianprietoperal2322
    @kilianprietoperal2322 6 лет назад +4

    You should have mentioned slow pulling, which is the opposiste of a slow push. You can initiate a slow pull, go away to ward or mid lane if you can and then you return for a massive wave while doing something in another place.

  • @Ikkitousen2323
    @Ikkitousen2323 6 лет назад +522

    This should be a required to watch vid if You are entering Your B1 to S5 promo.

    • @xxxEXxxGODxxx
      @xxxEXxxGODxxx 6 лет назад +179

      I barely even see this form of minion manipulation in plat - diamond...

    • @Ikkitousen2323
      @Ikkitousen2323 6 лет назад +10

      That is the reason for my suggestion mate.
      Wouldn't You want to see it?

    • @inhaledflame6754
      @inhaledflame6754 6 лет назад +1

      Literally me

    • @zyronltz7494
      @zyronltz7494 6 лет назад +7

      I Dragonfly I Actually i dont see any in my plat games.. Though there are the occasional few that knows their matchup well and will know how to play against it.

    • @itspuck9452
      @itspuck9452 6 лет назад

      Im in mid Dia since 4 years and still learned much in this video :/

  • @Fremder14
    @Fremder14 6 лет назад +2

    The only thing that is missing about slow pushing is that it has a huge down side. Creating a slow push gives u pressure in the map, but denies you from farm and experience. Slow pushing forces you to be proactive, because if you don't accomplished anything in that window of time u only managed to get yourself behind and starved..
    Slow push is a double edge sword!

  • @jinhunterslay1638
    @jinhunterslay1638 5 лет назад +37

    Even though I’m not high elo, one of my biggest frustrations is when my idiot team got baron but decides to go for some dumb team fight that gets everyone killed rather than push a lane.....isn’t that the whole point of Baron modifiers?

    • @ot5936
      @ot5936 4 года назад +2

      just give 0 sht about them and push 1 lane, better than joining with those players and lose your buff

    • @jinhunterslay1638
      @jinhunterslay1638 4 года назад +1

      @@ot5936 sadly I'm the support and I always have to look out for the adc and the team in general, so that's not an option. Split pushing is more the top laner's job

    • @ot5936
      @ot5936 4 года назад +2

      @@jinhunterslay1638 a support is a very important role create the rhythm for the whole team but in low elo they won't acknowledge that, many pro team have a sp as their leader so they can call for important team fights

    • @ot5936
      @ot5936 4 года назад

      My suggestion is that you should play top or mid or even jungle to diamond 4 and then you can return to your main position(don't play adc unless you're a smurf since no one gonna care about how important u are in team fights)

  • @smellynigua
    @smellynigua 6 лет назад +58

    Yeah you might understand this but 90% of time your team won't know any of this and just wont listen to you... good luck then

    • @felixthefox100
      @felixthefox100 5 лет назад +1

      This is just really useful to understand what pro teams are doing

  • @123Coryboy
    @123Coryboy 6 лет назад +12

    "This lets your wave to clear throw the enemy minions faster, creating a large wave pushing very quickly" x2

  • @K4ZA
    @K4ZA 6 лет назад +4

    This video shows once again what makes Blitz Esports special.
    Their freaking high-quality videos! Keep up the great work!

  • @redro562
    @redro562 5 лет назад +1

    the first wave control guide that i actualy understood. tnx =D

  • @Kirakishuu
    @Kirakishuu 6 лет назад +1

    Thank you so much. Before i watched this at 10 min i have 50 cs or less and now i get 90+

  • @adrielpuello
    @adrielpuello 6 лет назад

    You're a godsend. I've been looking for tips and tricks that pros know that aren't necessarily common knowledge. Thank you so much!

  • @pawsubly6805
    @pawsubly6805 6 лет назад +20

    For slow pushing, you all forgot to mention how critical it is to successfuly get the objective after setting up the slow push because if you are to fail, you will be losing the xp/gold from your massive minion wave killing all their minions while they will have someone able to catch the huge wave. It's the same concept as taking inhibs and being unable to close out the game.
    While the info isn't wrong, 9/10 times in SoloQ you just want to fast push a side lane to make sure you don't miss gold/xp because the pressure of a massive minion wave on enemy tower can't be reliably taken advantage of in SoloQ. It's more of a free minion bomb present for the enemy team, while denying yourself.
    High quality content, if not a little misleading with "high elo" in title. This is mostly basic information.

  • @ex_oLL
    @ex_oLL 3 года назад

    Excellent guide.
    Thanks for providing such essential material for free, it's much appreciated.

  • @martinoplaya7805
    @martinoplaya7805 6 лет назад +3

    Wow this is actually very good guide, I didn't even know about slow push until now and im mid-plat

    • @Chris-fe1kx
      @Chris-fe1kx 6 лет назад

      Garnet Universe I’m plat too and I knew about freezing and stuff but really didn’t know how to control waves.

    • @pykemain4816
      @pykemain4816 6 лет назад

      And im fcking Gold that knew every minions manipulation, every game I do 7 more kills than deaths, winning 63% of games...and I cant get out to plat because I always get shit teammates on series

  • @crimsonskorpio
    @crimsonskorpio 5 лет назад

    I'm kinda new to LoL, but this helps me think more about how to deal with minions. I appreciate this video

  • @res5878
    @res5878 6 лет назад

    you need a ton of videos like this. this is very helpful.

  • @RagtimeDandy
    @RagtimeDandy 6 лет назад

    Just wanted to say that I thought this was great! I look forward to more informative videos like this one!

  • @Dudemakesense
    @Dudemakesense 2 года назад

    love the table of content! That deserves a instant like!

  • @renefischer7086
    @renefischer7086 6 лет назад +26

    I like the video, but it should also be said that the lose of the 5 extra damage to minions in 8.4 doesn't allow midlaners to lasthit with the generic 2 turret shots one auto rule. Some Mages can do it from lvl 3 on, others from lvl 4,5 or even 6. Before those windows it is not possibly anymore, making hartpushing a wave against a mage a living nightmare to them right now.

    • @tadasvalaitis8089
      @tadasvalaitis8089 6 лет назад +2

      Yep, hardpushin mages now will win midlane even harder because of hard it's gonna be to last hit under tower and mana costly + free harass from enemy mid while as you need more autos on minions if u want prepare to last hit.

  • @sydneytinaja2682
    @sydneytinaja2682 6 лет назад +1

    This video is so catchy.good editing

  • @ah_o_kay
    @ah_o_kay 5 лет назад +1

    This vid is almost two years old but so much more ussefull than the vid proguides recently put on.

  • @amodlol2881
    @amodlol2881 6 лет назад +252

    I'm diamond and i still dont follow these strats lol

    • @killerontop7448
      @killerontop7448 6 лет назад +9

      who cares??

    • @ironcastox5691
      @ironcastox5691 6 лет назад +3

      you do

    • @last_survivor51x54
      @last_survivor51x54 6 лет назад +2

      John b u salty u what wood5?

    • @IlVostroNarratore
      @IlVostroNarratore 6 лет назад +31

      It's because you don't necessarily need it if you're mid-low diamond
      It's good to know, sure, but if you're decent at mechanics you can get low D5 without knowing this :)

    • @CrimsonHazmat
      @CrimsonHazmat 6 лет назад +2

      Ikr it's just like, push the lane if you want to, don't if you feel uncomfortable

  • @f8ed556
    @f8ed556 4 года назад

    finally. every vid told me what a freeze is but didnt tell em how to freeze

  • @xpo1220
    @xpo1220 6 лет назад +2

    This is what I wanted to learn/figure out for so long ! thanks blitz!

  • @medicyukisuna
    @medicyukisuna 6 лет назад +156

    I'm considered "high elo" and i have absolutely no clue about creep control.
    I just kill stuff lol.

    • @jixster1566
      @jixster1566 6 лет назад +37

      Then you might not be high elo

    • @ezrealxshsh5460
      @ezrealxshsh5460 6 лет назад +2

      Nick T its called basic info for a reason. Some players dont think too much abouy their actions, they just play that good unlike bronze

    • @konstantinjovanovski2754
      @konstantinjovanovski2754 6 лет назад +5

      cause u aint high elo lol

    • @abovenbeyond2826
      @abovenbeyond2826 6 лет назад +2

      What elo do you consider high elo?

    • @grantm5495
      @grantm5495 6 лет назад

      then you probs do well in other areas

  • @lolproclips792
    @lolproclips792 6 лет назад +16

    I have never seen your videos, but this is concise and well done.....Kudos to you!!!!

  • @ClaudioBramby
    @ClaudioBramby 6 лет назад +1

    Great video! It explain perfectly and in a simple way how minions work

  • @natking1u1z99
    @natking1u1z99 6 лет назад +3

    I've been playing LoL for about a month now. And I've noticed that almost no one uses these lane strategies. Everyone just goes for champion kills and lane pushing.

  • @darrenblair9316
    @darrenblair9316 6 лет назад +1

    I'm confused. From what I'm understanding fast pushing is meant to accomplish the same thing as shoving; having a large minion wave hit the tower immediately. But why do you only kill the melee minions instead of just killing all the minions? Wouldn't it be more efficient to kill all the minions to minimize the damage your minions take before they hit the tower ?

    • @V_2077
      @V_2077 3 года назад

      I think it's to give more time for another wave to come so that you have a bigger group on the tower which will do more damage than a smaller group going and dying quicker

  • @AdrianR.A
    @AdrianR.A 6 лет назад +1

    First vid I viewed from u I subscribed already! It's a great tip tnx for makeing such an awesome video!!

  • @matiaserazo6990
    @matiaserazo6990 6 лет назад +8

    Quality content as always

  • @bobabaggins_
    @bobabaggins_ 6 лет назад +1

    If I took anything from this video it's attack ranged minions slowly to slow wave, attack melee to fast push

  • @zachwilson8472
    @zachwilson8472 6 лет назад

    I appreciate the effort put into this. Great video

  • @arthurk2959
    @arthurk2959 5 лет назад +1

    Even though I'm relatively new to league (4 months) this was extremely helpful👍

  • @mariofn4991
    @mariofn4991 5 лет назад

    Omg thank you so much! I actually got so much better and my csing is better too!!! I’ve watched many videos like this but this is the only one I understood thank you so much!!!

  • @uwuuwu6791
    @uwuuwu6791 6 лет назад +4

    i love this chanel,always so gud content 10/10

  • @lolamnesia7509
    @lolamnesia7509 6 лет назад +1

    I like guides like this to improve ur overall skill

  • @wickdlol
    @wickdlol 6 лет назад +391

    Great video, but it's very basic information and doesn't go into high level tactics.

    • @nikolatodorovic168
      @nikolatodorovic168 6 лет назад +2

      wickd U the OG wickd! Nerf sustain!

    • @popi-ol9kc
      @popi-ol9kc 6 лет назад +47

      If you care to read the guide we get a little more in depth on the topic our aim was a guide to be used by all and gain some sort of knowledge without going into to much detail since its pretty lengthy to begin with heres a link if your interested docs.google.com/document/d/1rXzeofM54cZHBU1lf46JPzSwE4EbQDEJ7CeqIMpbISc thanks for the feedback much appreciated!

    • @Mijkami
      @Mijkami 6 лет назад +21

      We have SRO for that

    • @ChaosEvaUnit
      @ChaosEvaUnit 6 лет назад +13

      He's just grasping at straws in the fear of fading to insignificance.

    • @MrBadgerPissed
      @MrBadgerPissed 6 лет назад +15

      Isaac Whitehead who are you again?

  • @HunterVook
    @HunterVook 5 лет назад +4

    SWEAR to god i read the thumbnail "High ELO Mind Control"

  • @doneykoo
    @doneykoo 6 лет назад

    Hey it tells much in this video, sounds quite valuable. But many times, not enough reason or explanation is provided.
    Like for 4:25 , why can you "prevent the enemy laner from playing entirely by zoning" when the opposite minions have 4 casters more? why it is 4 casters? And what if less than 3 casters, then you cannot do the same of "prevent the enemy laner from playing entirely by zoning"? Not enough explanation of how this is true. Got confused.

  • @BulletBillWow
    @BulletBillWow 6 лет назад

    also some mages have low ad early thus will not kill melee minions with one auto, so if you let a melee take 2 turret shots and 1 auto it will not die to that auto attack you will need to auto it 2x.

  • @an0nsaiko890
    @an0nsaiko890 6 лет назад +23

    Thanks for posting this and giving a good explanation

  • @JoiyGaming
    @JoiyGaming 6 лет назад

    keep in mind freezing lane may be good but you have to sustain the freeze if your waiting to get ganked which can lead to the enemy laner getting poke forcing you to back

  • @camtisxr1430
    @camtisxr1430 6 лет назад

    wow didnt knew nothing of this thanks a lot appreciate your hard work keep it up

  • @IamZanderChen
    @IamZanderChen 6 лет назад +195

    I neva freeze

    • @RickyMuzakki
      @RickyMuzakki 6 лет назад

      Azarel Azriel Uriel Benjamin Kolaiah Israel nice try monkaS

    • @IamZanderChen
      @IamZanderChen 6 лет назад

      monkas?

    • @Masjokdalen
      @Masjokdalen 6 лет назад

      Zander Chen lmfao needed some time to understand that tyrone😫

    • @darylldavadilla3242
      @darylldavadilla3242 6 лет назад +18

      hE pOiNtEd tHe gUn tO mE aNd hE sAiD "fReEze"
      aNd i sAiD tO hIm "bRudDa i nEvA fReEze"

    • @vanconti6024
      @vanconti6024 5 лет назад

      LMAO HAHAHAHA

  • @gabbyeebzie4103
    @gabbyeebzie4103 6 лет назад

    Wow this is the exact video I needed! Thank you!!

  • @rypart8087
    @rypart8087 6 лет назад

    Very informal, you guys earned a sub!

  • @Void_Change
    @Void_Change 6 лет назад +2

    *YOUR VIDEO HELP ME ALOT* thanks ❤

  • @crackerjack955
    @crackerjack955 6 лет назад +4

    That moment when you’re trying to implement these but your low elo team doesn’t have a clue what to do to take advantage...

  • @minari3462
    @minari3462 6 лет назад +2

    I main jungle most of the time kayn, and they all push the lane and die from ganks and blames me i told them not too far frok tower and farm under tower if they can't handle the enemy and everytime i gank they dont pay attention and keeps csing so when i gank i usually just scare the enemy because the lane i ganked didn't responded

  • @Apocalypticable
    @Apocalypticable 6 лет назад

    3:36 I don't follow... I thought the best thing to do when the opponent bases is to shove so they miss out on creeps from their turret killing them. How, specifically, would you freeze before backing so as to make them miss out? What does she mean by that? I can't find any information on it, the only advice I can find says to shove before backing.

    • @simonzhang7008
      @simonzhang7008 6 лет назад

      you kill him and push: he comes back and lane should be even again cause his tower killed all ur pushing minions
      you kill him and properly freezes: he comes back and his lane is pushing and he cant farm cause you are probaly stronger and ur jungler can gank if he wants to farm

  • @yarinaosu
    @yarinaosu 6 лет назад +4

    wtf this is so neat and helpful

  • @lThellRockl
    @lThellRockl 6 лет назад

    All these will be learned through experience... Internet is just making things so much easier for new players now...
    I remember how i used to just count how many shots each minions can take before i need to bail the tower before i get hit by it...
    Classic Internet.

  • @arkprince9413
    @arkprince9413 6 лет назад +9

    being average is less complicated

  • @ultralooter
    @ultralooter 5 лет назад

    Probs for making this specific and exact!

  • @bamgazam
    @bamgazam 6 лет назад +9

    any tutorial on convincing your 20 and 3 jax to stop spilt pushing while you're losing nexus?

  • @bryce2703
    @bryce2703 6 лет назад +156

    There's like 15 videos about minion waves. This one said high elo so I thought it might actually be more advanced. It wasn't. :(

    • @maartenboender5352
      @maartenboender5352 6 лет назад +35

      ikr, this is litterly basic manipulation

    • @icepumpkin4484
      @icepumpkin4484 6 лет назад +18

      Its for high elo because in this scenarios you have a team to cooperate XD

    • @monstermushmush
      @monstermushmush 6 лет назад +32

      Is there anything more to wave manipulation tho?

    • @mightykuriboh906
      @mightykuriboh906 6 лет назад +1

      High elo is like silver and gold fam

    • @소금-e8c
      @소금-e8c 6 лет назад +8

      mighty kuriboh *High elo is like platinum and Diamond fam

  • @AtomAndRose
    @AtomAndRose 6 лет назад

    I got confused with the part at 3:56. What did she mean when she said "Look at the number of full hp caster minions and subtract 1 to get the amount of minion waves until your minions uncontrollably start to push again" Does she mean that every single wave i should just kill one caster minion straight away and then carry on to last hit minions? If someone can explain this i'd be grateful.

  • @jujoe0378
    @jujoe0378 5 лет назад +1

    3:00 yup that's definetely gonna happen in my silver game first I freeze than the enemy jungler (who doesn't even know what a freeze is) comes in to break my freeze and my jungler "obviously" immediately notices that with his superb map awareness and they pull of a perfect bot lane tower dive.

    • @divinity2478
      @divinity2478 5 лет назад

      Literally what i thought as a bronze fella lol i was like most junglers Don't even notice that ur being camped or fighting or that yasuo is literally ALWAYS pushing under our turret

  • @thatthien250
    @thatthien250 6 лет назад +1

    When you always lose the opponent in terms of level, learning to control the minions. Will keep your enemies busy to farm, Or rush the minions quickly so that you have time to support other lane.

  • @brentaltm
    @brentaltm 6 лет назад

    Great video, it was very informative and helpful. But I recommend slowing down a little bit cause it's a lot of information to take in at once if you're a new player.

  • @KevzzzO
    @KevzzzO 6 лет назад +2

    And if I clear whole wave instantly, what does it do? In this video shows only to kill caster minions or only to kill melee minions, whats the point of fast push if i can kill all minions fast?

    • @younessiwane9071
      @younessiwane9071 6 лет назад

      Same question, why would i only kill caster minions if i want to fast push while i can kill the entire wave no ?

    • @biancalepoli2154
      @biancalepoli2154 5 лет назад

      To build a higher wave so the enemy hás to go there or else they lose CS and exp or the minions take the tower by themselfs

  • @br0kenboii
    @br0kenboii 6 лет назад

    Super clean Video & very helpful. But I have a question: which Programm where used in the making progress? Are there any ‚pre sets‘ for ur slight shows or sth like that?

  • @CyanCam0
    @CyanCam0 6 лет назад +1

    Thanks for this, I really needed help

  • @logant1990
    @logant1990 6 лет назад +1

    These are all basic stuffs that every Nasus player will learn on their own. ONE THING this video didnt mention is when your lane is pushed and the situation allows for it ( enemy champ just recalled to base or you simply got tanky enough), you want to stop the enemy wave right outside the range of your turret. This will prevent your lane from being pushed back and maintain a large pool of farm and stacks for your Q, WHILE you still remain in the safe zone and easily retreat behind turret if enemy jg ganks

    • @TheLazar876
      @TheLazar876 6 лет назад

      True, i honestly was bad at CS and wave manipulation before i started playing nasus, now my average CS is high dia average. Nasus is a great way to learn to play this game.

  • @samuelluisdelespiritusanto7343
    @samuelluisdelespiritusanto7343 6 лет назад

    Now I know why it's easier for me to play support...
    I didn't know this earlier

  • @HrishiBaney
    @HrishiBaney 5 лет назад +1

    Whenever I freeze my wave and Recall, my jungler comes and killes all the enemy minions causing the wave to reset or fast push into the enemy turret, causing the enemy to freeze the wave....
    So frustrating!

    • @angiegamez8600
      @angiegamez8600 5 лет назад

      Yea, that has to be the most tilting thing ever for me too :/

  • @juliuskang6693
    @juliuskang6693 6 лет назад +8

    This is so complicated so I play jungle and supp :)

  • @yusifrady3298
    @yusifrady3298 6 лет назад

    Great guide ! surely helped a lot

  • @aKindred
    @aKindred 6 лет назад

    You guys should make a video explining macro game and why it is more important than micro game, this would help low elo players a bunch

  • @MarcoElBasto
    @MarcoElBasto 5 лет назад

    Thanks a lot am gonna slow push the top lane more oftenly now.

  • @SplashuYumYum
    @SplashuYumYum 5 лет назад

    Great video. Well constructed.
    Thanks

  • @willho4202
    @willho4202 6 лет назад +1

    Misfits were so good at creating pressure against TSM with minion waves and slow pushes, it almost won them one of the games

    • @Isoldemain
      @Isoldemain 3 года назад

      What game exactly? I’d like to watch it

    • @willho4202
      @willho4202 3 года назад +1

      @@Isoldemain I think it was the first match between them at worlds 2017

  • @aristokat9867
    @aristokat9867 6 лет назад

    Wow holy shit, a high elo tutorial i actually understand

  • @Yisrael_Teshuvah
    @Yisrael_Teshuvah 6 лет назад

    This video was helpful and inspirational.

  • @PonderJutsu
    @PonderJutsu 6 лет назад

    this is so good and easy to digest ty

  • @liquidrope7063
    @liquidrope7063 6 лет назад

    The video effects were awesome.. I wish I knew what they did so I can make my videos look more professional

  • @joshheartzel2293
    @joshheartzel2293 6 лет назад +1

    thanks this helped me climb from silver to gold

  • @natt0580
    @natt0580 6 лет назад

    Nice video :D I like it!

  • @jamesmeneses7756
    @jamesmeneses7756 5 лет назад

    can someone explain the freeze rule about the subtract 1 thing at 4:00?

  • @latlak
    @latlak 5 лет назад

    What do I do when I don't wanna leave the lane? So how do I just lane? Slow and fast pushing is good when you wanna leave lane and freezing requires you to be ahead or standing very safe. What do I do with the wave at level 1 for example?

  • @ProductionAuthority
    @ProductionAuthority 6 лет назад

    Some basic stuff here, but still nice to hear it again ! Great efford for making these kinds of videos, good job :)

  • @bboyalanleung123
    @bboyalanleung123 6 лет назад

    so we have slow and fast pushes.....What kind of push do we call when we just kill all the minions, both casters and melee minions?

  • @tubaconrad
    @tubaconrad 6 лет назад

    Why would you freeze the wave if your enemy laner backs? Wouldn’t it be more beneficial to push it into turret so they lose xp/gold to turret?

    • @simonberube7191
      @simonberube7191 6 лет назад

      when you freeze, enemy minions will kill your minions quickly, which denies xp and gold and when they come back in lane, they need to overextend to go farm which gives a good gank opportunity