Okay for the love of god: 1. Yes I know the Patriots are in the AFC East, there was a typo when I wrote this up 2. I know the Bills lost 4 super bowls in a row in the early 90's, I wanted to say the first team to attempt to win 4 super bowls. NEW TWITTER: Twitter: twitter.com/MikerophoneNFL New TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@mikerophonenfl?lang=en
I was coming to clown you on AFC West. Yep I admit that I'm that type of dude. Kidding bro. I absolutely love your content. So we'll researched. Props to you
You put up the score to the 2nd super bowl that NY won vs the pats when talking about the the season they beat them when they was undefeated, you put up the 21-17 score when the year they was undefeated the super bowl score was 17-14
Brady never came up with an offensive or defensive game plan. Brady never played defense or special teams. Brady never lead his team to a last second SB TD (like Montana). Brady never kicked 3 game SB winning field goals. Brady never shut down the RAMs the entire game. Brady never shut down Atlanta in the second half. Brady never stopped Seattle at the end of the game. Brady did lose to sorry Eli Manning and the Giants twice. Brady did lose to a nobody QB playing for Philly. NE went 11-5 without Brady at QB. You are welcome for the free football education.
@@RK-um9tuso brady didn’t play defense or anything obviously but he someone allowed the giants to have 2 game winning drives in the Super Bowl? How does that make sense
@@RK-um9tu It's crazy how wrong "haters" can be... 1) You can't use "Brady didn't do this...." then switch to "Brady did lose too Eli" (Belichick never threw a TD or executed a game plan to be able kick a game winning FG) 2) NE went 11-5 with Matt Cassel...with the EXACT SAME team that went 18-1 with Brady. (You also can't use Eli channeling his inner Peyton or David Tyree, a relative no-name, making one of the most incredible catches EVER as negatives toward Brady.) (David Tyree: 1x pro-bowler - 54 catches, 650 yards, 4 TDs - CAREER STATS) 3) Belichick's career record SPEAKS FOR ITSELF and is IRREFUTABLE. Having a losing record, even if it were just by a single game, is still garbage when compared to having more than THREE TIMES as many wins as losses. 4) Lastly, as if the points above aren't enough, Brady taking the same 7-9 non-playoff team and making them a 15-5 Super Bowl winning team....while winning 3 road playoff games against the bad Commanders, Brees and Rodgers, two other ALL TIME greats at the QB position only helps Brady and hurts Belichick, in terms of "legacy" 2020 Bucs: 15-5 Super Bowl Champs VS 2020 Pats: 7-9 and not making the playoffs.
Brady going to the Bucs was the best move he could have ever made, both career wise and PR wise. He won a Super Bowl with a team that basically allowed him to run the entire team as like a player/coach/GM and was also allowed to kick back and show that he actually has a personality. Just that video of him throwing the Lombardi trophy to another boat improved his image from "the GOAT who is kinda boring" to "the GOAT that is fun and cool"
yes but it still kinda hurt cause that could have been the pats 7th lol but so happy he got a 7th for himself, he very much desereved that, it stinks to see him not go out a champ. Almost shocked he even returned in his final years still proved he can win a playoff game and he didn't have Godwin.
@@freemanpense2782 Losing records? Except Cleveland in 1994 (11-5), Patriots in 2008 (10-5) with Matt Cassel, and Pats from 2020-2022 (25-25) when they went .500 for those 3 seasons combined.
Though I agree he could’ve played hardball like everyone else and I think he is a really good humble dude with a level head and not a big ego…………………He’s the only player with a spouse that makes over 40 million a year. Kinda helps.
I 100% believed that Bill Belichick threw that Superbowl against the eagles. There can be no other explanation as to why Butler was benched the entire game.
In my opinion there is a significant piece missing to why he left. During the Super Bowl loss to the Eagles, Bill B had benched Malcom Butler the entire game due some some minor off-field action. If Butler had played, I think the Patriots would have won the SB.
I don’t think it’s close to this definitive (ie if butler plays, they win) but it’s the Super Bowl and when you’re getting burned that bad you should be trying anything.
@@RM-56 they legit picked on his back up the entire 2nd half lol like they went relentless on it. They knew we didn't have our starter in and they exposed that shit. Not to say Butler was a lock down guy he wasn't but he was much much better than his back ups lol he was the #1 corner at the time for the patriots and still top 15 in the NFL at least.
There's got to be serious problems when 6 Superbowls aren't enough to make the locker room the happiest in the NFL but I'm glad that Brady left and proved what everybody but Belichick knew was the truth, Brady made him not the other way around. How many times have coaches come from the Belichick system only to fail miserably? The guy had a once in a lifetime QB and that's the only reason why he's still included in any football conversation.
true in a lot of ways but we gotta give Bill some credit, he did draft some bangers even if he doesn't get full credit for Drafting brady he still decided to pick him when Dick his lead player of personnel made the call. Also I know before you say it, Scott Pioli had a lot to do with the talent they got as well.
Belichick deserves his own credit and Brady deserves his own. They're both severely overhyped- that's not being negative about them, its saying they're both among the very best if not the best of their generation. But everyone treats them as indisputable godlike figures when they're not, they are just like the other generational talents of other eras. Brady compares similarly to Montana, Bradshaw and Graham. Belichick won a championship with the 1990 giants as an assistant coach. Both were elevated by being with Robert Kraft who is undoubtedly the best owner in the NFL. Although Brady did abandon his girlfriend and child as soon as he got famous so that's pretty awful of him.
Name one coach since 2000 (21st C.) that has had over 130 AP 1st Team & Pro Bowl Players! Name them!🤔 You know nothing of real football & certainly much less about Brady's personal life that has nothing to do with football!@@booradley6832
The incident was from the 2019 final regular season game against Miami. Pats force a punt with 1:40 on the clock before half time. Belichick calls a timeout to give Brady the ball for a drive to put up points before the half. . . . Except, no. . . . No timeout, Fins run 40 seconds off the clock, Brady gets the ball with under a minute. Runs one play and the clock keeps running into half time. Ultimate disrespect for Brady and the offense and they lose to Miami, and KC gets the first-round bye. Great job coach. And great job for benching Malcolm Butler in the Superbowl and getting torched by Nick Foles. Defensive genius there, while Brady threw for 500 yards, a Superbowl record.
Brady going to the Bucs proved that he wasn't just a product of Belichick's system, but rather he was the driver of the offense all of those years. It was one of the best moves of his career.
He was the driver of the Patriot Way. When you see your best player prepare, work harder than anyone else and demand excellence from everyone. He knew how to lead his TEAM, motivate them and if you watch any interview (except AB) of his teammates, it’s clear they ALL would go through a wall for him. Guys came to NE to play with TB12 and not to play for Hoodie.
That was a down year given the low attendance. They got lucky against the Saints and third time matches tend to yield different results if there was a sweep, and they played a QB who pretty much is a playoff bridesmaid who can't get the monkey off his back since his only SB as he lost at home the next year. Rams pretty much shut them down the next year and SF would have done the same. If only Seattle just let the Rams have the division and TB never goes to NO in divisional. Seattle has been known to always lose games to hurt the Saints.
@@jackwoods535 I am a realist. You get real. Pre Brady with Bledsoe, The Pats sucked. After Brady, the Pats suck. Parcells is a different man. He already knew football. He didn't need Belichick. At best Belichick is a great defensive coordinator. If not for Brady there wouldn't have been a following of superstars signing with the Pats and taking HUGE pay cuts. GET REAL dude. And Belichick is not the offensive brains. Not by a long shot.
The Patriots were done in 2019, and Brady knew that he couldn't win there anymore. As a starter in New England, Brady had a 4-5 record in his last 9 games.
well all them Tom Brady "extra protection" rule changes didn't hurt his career either, find the Montana interview where Joe points that out and how the game has changed, he wouldn't have lasted 7 years in the league back then, and I am a huge Tom Brady fan and admire his skills and longevity
@@Good-Enuff-Garage what made you think Tom Brady wouldn't last 7 years back then? If Joe Montana can play for 15 years in that era, then Tom Brady could definitely play for 20 years. I assume you're under 20 and have never seen Montana play. That guy can't take hits like Brady and he doesn't take care of his body like Brady, he parties a lot, even uses drugs during the season.
@@rsoe9158 I am 50 thanks, and I live near SF so there you go, watched every game Montana ever played that I could, Brady can take hits, that is hilarious, the NFL made rules especially to protect him, and Joe Montana said all that not me, the game has changed, do you see any Full Backs these days? how about purely blocking tight ends? it's a pass happy league because of all the new rules, it's going to be two hand touch pretty soon, again I like Tom but him in the early 80s I don't think so
God, being a patriots fan in 2010s was insane. 8-straight AFC championship games, 5 super bowls, 3 wins, every season they knew you were the favorite and every season you came in and torched the league.
I used to get heat for saying from 2006 on that he was the SB favorite and the Patriots were the best and most dominant team year in and year out; but even when they came up short you knew they were the team to beat. My Dad told me that year Peyton won his first chip that its ok son, I think its just his year - and I remember telling my Dad that something happened to Brady's face at the end of that game and that I thought he was about to go Super Saiyan lol ...then 07 happened
I'm not really a Brady, Bucs or Pats fan, just a fb fan but it'll either have to be a masterclass in scheme and execution by Bill and the Pats or Brady and the Bucs will run away with it. Tampa has a lot of talent and experience on the team that NE doesn't currently. It's not truly a fair matchup. One team is built to win right now and the other is in the beginnings of a rebuild, specifically on offense.
I can't imagine how Brady must have felt walking onto the Foxboro field as the away team where he had won so many games as the home team QB in front of the same fans that had cheered for him for 20 years. I don't know if I could have done it.
Long time Tom Brady hater here. It started as anger over the Drew Bledsoe situation which caused me to stop following the Pats. And continued thereafter as he defeated so many of the teams I loved. Today I can look back and admit he is a class act, I can't name one thing about him that's bad. My own butt hurt prevented me from following and enjoying one of the greatest careers in NFL history. I've been watching old games trying to appreciate what I tried so hard to ignore all of those years. I honestly regret that I missed all of the excitement and happiness he brought Pat fans. Much respect to TB12.
I'm doing the same thing with old games and been butt hurt since he defeated the eagles in February of 05. Being from the Philly area my whole life. I ignored and hated , now I'm in awe a bit over his accomplishments and work ethic as well
The Malcolm Butler debacle in the Philly Superbowl was rumored to be a large part of the problem between Tom and bill. Bill fd up bad that day. No way Philly wins of butler plays.
Bills fan here. Brady has, and is my worst nightmare to face. Hell! he should be for all teams. I can't stand the SOB. However, he is the best there ever was and is. He's also a class act, a nice guy, and a great family man. All the best to you Tom. You deserve respect. And sir, you've earned it in my book.
He is great but not greatest ever Montana was best ever I no Brady has more rings but Montana played teal man's football .if Brady ever took a qauter of the hits Montana did he would retired on his 20s Brady plays in a panty waste league where you can't hit the qb a league where you get hit hard you go in protocol Montana had played in this league Brady does he'd have 15 super bowls.
dude ... until yesterday i hated Brady until i saw how hard he had it getting into the nfl ... my mouth dropped to think that this guy i hated because he kept fucking my teams over was being treated like some 2nd rate quarterback ... just look at the money hes made from Patriots ... its a goddamn outrage ... how can he not be halfway to a billion dollars made in the NFL by now? HOWWWWW??????????????????
You can't compare Tom Brady and today's football like it used to be year's ago he's good but he's no to Terry Bradshaw Roger staubach Dan Marino and the other great QBs from from the past
I love Belichick, but Brady was great enough that he should have let him do whatever he wanted. When you have a player that special on your team, you let them do whatever makes them happy, as long as they’re still performing. The other dumb thing about letting Brady go was that he had absolutely no backup or plan to replace him.
@@sikecar534 Ya, but Jimmy G had already been gone by then. When Belichick let Brady walk away he had no backup plan at all. They picked up a washed up Cam Newton right before training camp because that was the only option they could find
@@sikecar534Jimmy G just got benched for Aaron OConnel because he is trash just another example of Belichicks incompetence running a franchise he tried to get rid of the best QB in the NFL for Jimmy G Bill is a 🤡 love seeing him get exposed for the trash head coach he always was
Just watched this October 2021. Buccaneers beat the Pats at Gillette and played the first super bowl in their home stadium - and naturally won it. Destroying the KC Chiefs whose only touchdown in Tampa occurred when the team plane landed - not one during the game. Perhaps in the long run Belichick gets Brown into a Brady clone - he definitely looks the real deal - and it will work for both. Tom needed a team that could win now, Belichick needed to rebuild someday. Will his new QB leave $100 million on the table to let Belichick look like a genius? That is an entirely different question. It wouldn’t shock me b/c Jones seems to have the character that winning is all that matters. Will he still feel that way after one, two, 3 titles? Only time will tell. As Boomer said, “that’s why they play the games.”
Jones is no Brady, Jones won't win 1 SB, FG kicker, WR, TE, DB, Brady had these, then had to do with what was given to him, then left. Jones won't be near Brady. Belichek will not have another run.
In 2020, Tom Brady became the first NFL player in history to play 20+ seasons with the franchise that drafted him, and then signed somewhere else. A record that will never be broken again, and a record that was previously held by (if you count traded as well) Joe Montana (14 Seasons with the 49ers, then got traded to the Chiefs).
Actually Brady holds the record for being protected by the NFL history. Only QB in NFL history who you could not touch or nothing the passer would be called.
This is the first season of the NFL (2021) I've watched in about 15 years and I really appreciate your channel. Helps build some background on whats been going on in the league while keeping it entertaining. You've got my sub!
Just an observation here. As a long time Bucs fan, it's interesting to watch the relationship betweenhead coach Ariens and Brady. And as Ariens implies, he just lets Brady be Brady. So far, it seems to work. Brady has one of his best buds in Tampa to play pitch and catch with. Just a couple kids playing sand lot football. It seems to work.
I completely agree.. to me, it seems like he's actually having fun, and is obviously appreciated by ALL the coaching staff for a change. Just glad this game between the BUCS and PATS is finally over for TB...this game was way too weird, wacky and stressful.
@@tomjones5650 Bucs did not get a superbowl, sadly. But did tie for the best regular season record in the NFL. Brady had the most yards and TDs. So have to say it worked out pretty darn well, even if the season was not perfect.
Tom Brady volunteered to restructure his contract for the good of the team. He did it once again with Tampa Bay so they could bring the entire Superbowl team back.
I sold my season tickets of 26 years the week after that Titans game, we all knew he was outta here. I'll be at the game Sunday to watch Brady kick Belichick's ass. #FireGoodell
@@michaeldonnan6767 why support Brady? Are you serious? You obviously don’t know how it went down. Tom through out his whole career took pay cut after payout and restructured so the money could be used to get players to help him. Didn’t help Tom at all. Then 2016 after the greatest comeback ever in sports he wanted a a multiple year deal same deal as Drew Brees (same age but 5 less super bowls) kinda a big deal. Then bill gives him this fake 2 year deal. I’m a life time new Englander and route for all the teams. I’m 52 and have never seen an athlete of Brady’s stature, success, professionalism, team first guy get treated as he did, it disgusted me. That day I ordered my Brady jersey and became a Bucs supporter. It’s funny to see these videos of Celtics practicing back in the sixtys and Russel is sitting in the bleachers reading the paper while the rest of the team was practicing you know why cause Auerbach new he was special he was different and spoke with him as an equal and listened to his needs. I still love the pats and route for them…..except when Tom is on the other side. I think you need to watch the video again. The G.O.A.T getting treated like a JAG ( just another guy) disgraceful, embarrassing , other cities are laughing at us , you had the goat and did him dirty like that. Tom’s gonna make him feel it for a long time. And lastly doesn’t meet in person to say good bye…..CLASSLESS!
Tom was the ultimate team player. He took less money to help the team. He rarely did commercials unless other players were involved. He had Gronk and Moss for a while, but didn’t always have great receivers. Tom left because he wasn’t playing as well, that was do to the poor talent around him. Belichick never gave Tom the respect the goat deserved!
This breakup was like a rock band with huge egos, and one member left to join another band or to have a solo career. Brady went to join the Buccaneers in 2020 and Belichick stayed to run the Patriots however he wanted. We are currently observing the results of their mutual decisions. Just my opinion.
BB tried to trade Brady to SF and Kraft overruled him and sent JimmyG instead. After 20 years TB deserved more respect from his coach and 6 rings. TB is a great fit with a less naive TB over his future.
I disagree. No one is more humble than Brady based on his accomplishments. He never asked or expected special treatment. Just due respect. BB could not/would not do that. So the humble GOAT took his talents to TB.
Why yes we are aren't we? Tom Brady is gone for not even two seasons and as Brady take the slide the New England Patriots have won 7 in a row. More wins on the road than at home. LOL! I kinda' think Brady is the diva going down and it's taken Belichick less than two seasons to rebuild to the hilt without him.
@@mykul5489 They haven’t traditionally been a powerhouse franchise, by any means. Of course, the Patriots weren’t one, either, though, until Bill got there and made them one, but a lot of young people probably don’t know that. They became a good team with Drew Bledsoe, but then, they became great with Brady.
I think benching Malcom Butler was the straw that broke the camel’s back. What a wasted performance. Bill letting a second string QB torch his defense and he leaves Malcom on the bench. Bill needs to go. It’s time to tear it down. Bill is great at keeping his defense supplied with talent but his offense is thin.
I've been watching NFL pro football since 1960 and I finally had to admit after seeing Unitus, Griese, Montana, Starr, Jurgensen, Van Brocklin etc, that Tom Brady IS the GOAT.
God, this upcoming game, Pats vs. Bucs...it'd be one thing if there was a possibility of a good contest, but that's just not realistic. Gonna have to watch my favorite team get their ass handed to them by our former QB. Really rubs the salt in those wounds.
Texan fan here. So my football world has been 90% crap...lol. Anyway, after 20 years of winning with Brady and Belichick. Whats the feelings of the fans there? Are ya'll happy for Brady or upset with Brady, or upset with Belichick etc?
@@eleven8948 Most people get it...if nothing else, the man put his time in, and no one could've asked for more from him. The Pats went from a total joke to THE best franchise in the history of the game. Hard to be mad at a dude who made it all possible. Of course, there will always be those dicks that will call him a traitor and such.
@@themetalone7739 I hear ya and I agree. I was always a Brady fan because of the time and effort he put in as well. Dude is a wizard at figuring things out and faced lots adversity as well. I wasnt sure if it was Belichicks coaching or Brady's effort that was winning and now we can all see what it was (Mostly Brady). No wonder every single coach that has moved on from NE has failed miserably. Bill NoBrien screwed the Texans so bad its gonna be at least 5 years before things go right. Now there is a book coming out stating that NoBrien actually was trying to get fired too in order to be Belichicks successor. What a total douche. I wonder if NoBrien still would like to replace Belichick now that Brady is gone. Im sure isnt a dumbass to hire that moron anyway....lol
@@eleven8948 I'm happy for Brady personally. Honestly seeing Brady win would be nice because he would have beaten every nfl team if he does. On another hand being a Pats fan i wanna see them roll the Bucs but i'm not stupid lol the Bucs are going to win 60 to 6
I have been a huge pats fan since 1994 at the age of 6 I asked my grandpa who his favorite football team was because they lived in Rhode Island he said the New England Patriots I said mine too I was born and raised and still live in FL and thank God I loved and admired my grandpa so much to pick his team instead of liking a team down here in FL. If I wasn't a long time fan I would question the things in this video after seeing the huge AFC West pic and hearing you say they clinched the AFC West but this is by far one of the best videos about NE, BB and TB I have ever seen, I salute you sir
Brady has always been incredibly professional even at the worst of times. Belichick however lets his emotions destroy himself. I believe this is why Brady won this weekend.
Honestly I dont think so. Im on the outside kind of a Belichick. Not showing many emotions if I dont think something is funny i.e. It just makes you think on the inside a lot more. Thats about it. And his question couldve been: How do we go on the next years? How do go on without Tom? Just that. That HAS to be on a coaches mind, not showing it, doesnt really tell anything.
How many players have ever stayed happy under one coach for 20 years? How many superstars have been so forced to sit down and just be quiet? Indeed, how many regular people have been happy working for the same boss for 20 years? No one really knows what was going on in Tom's head except Tom. My best guess is that he does respect Bill, and what Bill taught him, and provided for him over the years. But also just outgrew Bill. The mentee needed a break from the mentor who refused to accept that the mentee was now his equal. A fairly common story in many walks of life. So Tom left the family farm to go see if he could make his fortune in the wider world, a story as old as story telling.
Bill Belichick NEVER taught Mr. Tom Brady anything! Bill was the luckiest man in the world to have Tom Brady to fall into his lap. As for as Belichick providing for Brady over the years. Hoss, that was the other way around. Brady at times was the lest paid Super Bowl winner in the league. You see what happen to Belichick when the old man went to the Bucks!
They Apsolutely did, people joke all they want, and call the cowboy the team of the 90's but it was Buffalo in the SuperBowl 4 times in a Row, yeah we lost qnd the dought set in there after a Bum field goal kick
@Ghost Everyone goes straight to Steelers for the 70's, but I honestly think the Phins can be _argued_ as the better of the two dynasties that decade. 80's was clear, and 90's was clear, but Buffalo was great, too.
Honestly, I'm glad Brady left the Patriots. With the benefit of hindsight now that Brady has returned to Foxboro as a member of the Buccaneers, I can proudly say this: most of us football fans don't hate Brady; we hate the vocal minority of Patriots fans with a constant need to flex their superiority everywhere. Just look at how they behaved when Brady made his entrance, or when Brady took a sack from his former team. "Savage" is the word I will use to describe the whole thing. This was the player that brought them 6 championships, and they could not even show him a shred of respect. As a reminder: THIS was what fans of 31 other NFL teams have to put up with when Brady was a Patriot. The sheer disrespect and insufferable attitudes of this vocal minority is why a lot of us reasonable football fans can never appreciate Brady in his prime.
Patriot fan here since their inception 1960. Saw every game of theirs. Believe me, the Patriot way is Brady's way. Belichick will NEVER do anything substantial ever again without Tom. Tom has quietly proved that...past 3 seasons Bill has flunked. I am surprised Kraft has kept him...I would not be shocked if Bill is gone sometime during or after this 2023 season. His record stinks prior to Brady, and after Brady. Look it up. Lastly, Hope he NEVER gets past Shula's record. I cannot stand him. (can you tell?)
A premature departure? DUDE WAS THERE 20 YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is so much longer than anything in sports and most things in life. Man, I honestly question what you are thinking when you think this is a good idea smh. You literally showed Joe Montana, who the niner ran out of town. Tom owes Bill nothing and Bill owes tom his respect, which he has forsure.
It's interesting that Belichick is the archetype of the cold, ruthless, coach. Bill Walsh is much more that. Bill Walsh once told Harris Burton something akin to "you're good enough to play in the NFL for seven more years, but you'll only spend the next four with us. Then we're going to trade you". To Walsh, all players were interchangeable cogs and as soon as one started showing signs of wear, he was to be replaced with a new one. There was no loyalty.
@@onebuffalo5402 So you just gonna ignore the fact that Brady outdueled Mahommes in the AFC championship game that year, at Arrowhead with no weapons? 😂😂
the BEST conflict moment between belichick and brady was when tampa bay buccaneers secured the playoff berth to the super bowl. brady was on camera calling..... belichick to tell the coach they were going to the super bowl. belichick was pissed with the call and threw the headset cursing the moment. priceless!!
Oh Drew...After all these years I'm still sad how things ended💔 It was so nice to see a glimpse of him here.. Oh the days in the old stadium.. when ignorance was bliss, the seats were still affordable and the NFL wasn't woke..I miss you pal! ❤
Well, looking back now it is clear the Bellichek is mediocre. He made some good trades and decisions, but without the QB spot settled he cannot build an offence. Looking back on the totality of his trades and draft picks, it is easy to see how much Brady carried those offences and trained the receivers. Bellichek got not only a top tier QB, but a top tier OC in Brady. Mac Jones is a good QB, but without a good OC and with time since Brady left, we just see that the offence cannot move the ball. The defence isn’t even good anymore. I think Bellichek needs to be fired if the Pats finish below a .300 (which is honestly what I am expecting).
Brady is the best ever. I wasn't that impressed after the first Super Bowl, only mildly impressed after his second, but damn, SEVEN?! And he got way better individually as the years went by... He was kinda a bus driver in his earliest years, but then he turned into a stat monster. And to still be near the top of the heap at his age, he's untouchable.
bellichick wanted brady out of his system it didnt meet up with his plan so he deliberately declawed tom gave him less than adequate weapons a makeshift offensive line i dont blame tom one bit for leaving and its pretty glaringly obvious that brady was the main reason for the dynasty as bellichick doesnt even have a 500% record without him but with him won 9 conference championships and 6 super bowls with a winning pctg of 760%
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@@LulBruhDMV if it wasn't for Mike I would've have known about the Haskins trade until maybe a few weeks after. I don't really pay attention to trades and stuff
The biggest responsibility of a professional football coach should be about maximizing each player’s potential. Disrespecting arguably the greatest quarterback in history of the sport isn’t it, especially when the guy is as great a team player who cuts his salary for the team. The saddest part is that the most logical explanation for his action is authority complex, a fancy way of say a coach being jealous of his player because he is more important for team success.
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I've been watching your channel for quite a while. Your tendency to stack identical-meaning adjectives (which might be a regional/colloquial thing) notwithstanding, you are the best in the business. And this video was, by far, the best treatment of this subject matter I've yet seen. Keep up the good work.
Talk about " what have you done for me lately " . Brady gave the Patriots six super bowl and made Bilichek look like a genius whereas his monumental failures since Brady left prove that the coaches ' genius was based on the brilliance of Tom Brady. It is a shame that Brady was not allowed to remain with the Patriots for the rest of his life.
@@onebuffalo5402 he said patriots attempted, he never said they made it. But yeah he’s wrong about them would’ve being the first. That’s crazy to pull off
really? Patrick chung and Trent Brown both came back, so did martellus bennett and that dude didn't get along with anybody. Different strokes for different folk's
Belichick and McDaniels both showed they're nothing without Brady. All they had to do was keep their mouths shut, play their roles and let Brady cook. But they failed, got too prideful. McDaniels now having failed stints as HC of two different teams, and Belichick in last place with the Patriots. - WW
As a lifetime New England Patriot fan, I can easily say, we are all very angry at Bill for breaking up the Patriots/Brady dynasty. We did not care, at the end, if the Pats won another ring. All we wanted to do was watch Brady play for as long as he wanted and enjoy saying goodby, with the added bonus of knowing you always had a legitimate shot at a superbowl with Tom as your guy. Bill screwed it all up, determined to treat Brady like everyone else on the team, when, and apparently he is the only one not recognizing this, Brady was the GOAT, and had clearly earned the right to be treated so. Now Bills legacy is shattered and it is Brady who is now recognized as the reason the Pats had such a great run. Which makes Bill the top Patsy of all time, the GOAT!
Initially I didn't believe Seth Wickersham's article cuz I thought it was ESPN just making up some meaningless drama, but the way how Brady's camp has revealed what went on behind the scenes, damn, Seth wasn't wrong.
The Pat's ten year super bowl drought can be laid at Belichick's feet alone. It wasn't Bill's masterful coaching that created the Pat's winning culture, it was Brady's fabulous skill and competitive spirit. Brady went out and got a 7th ring. Belichick laid an egg. F you Bill.
Both are great, but Bill is far better than the 2nd best coach of the last 15 years. You can make a case that Brady hasn’t been the best QB of the last 15 years. In either way, the 2nd best QB is closer to Brady than the 2nd best coach is to Bill.
in 2018 "showing signs of decline" They beat the best team in the nfl in the playoffs, and by a lot. they destroyed the chargers, who had wayyyyyyy more talent.
When Billy boy benched Malcom Butler in the Super Bowl vs the Eagles and the Eagles picked apart the Pat's secondary... exactly where Butler would have been and cost the team and Brady that Super Bowl... THAT is the moment TB 12 was out and that is still the moment the Pats started their death spiral into the ugly mediocracy the depths of which were previously only known by the Jets and they are still on today.. with Billy boy.
2:12 you are wrong. Buffalo Bills appeared and lost in 4 consecutive Super Bowls; 1990 New York 20 Buffalo 19 1991 Washington 37 Buffalo 24 1992 Dallas 52 Buffalo 17 1993 Dallas 30 Buffalo 13
This is a good example of what arrogance, pride, and disloyalty gets you......your BEST PLAYER of ALL TIME leaves because of the bad treatment he got......then he goes away and wins another Superbowl with another team. By the way, that team made the playoffs 3 years in a row and two NFC championship games. Chew on that for awhile Belicheck. Since Brady got run off..... how's that tastin' now Pats fans?
Best coach of all time and best QB of all time... i am suprised it even lasted that long. Now both winning like crazy. Tom with Bucs and Bill with Pats.
@@kennethsmith8968 dude you can't win the Superbowl every single year, you can say the same thing about brady on the bucs, why didn't he win the Superbowl with all that talent? Its football, anything can happen, the worst team in the nfl can smoke the best team in the nfl under the right conditions. Mac was on his first year and we made playoffs, personally im happy with that. Belicheck has 6 rings which is literally more than Vince Lombardi the literal person the Superbowl trophy was named after. Is that not enough? 😂
Okay for the love of god:
1. Yes I know the Patriots are in the AFC East, there was a typo when I wrote this up
2. I know the Bills lost 4 super bowls in a row in the early 90's, I wanted to say the first team to attempt to win 4 super bowls.
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I was coming to clown you on AFC West. Yep I admit that I'm that type of dude. Kidding bro. I absolutely love your content. So we'll researched. Props to you
Patriots went to 3 in a row and won 2 (lost to Philly). So they were attempting to go to 4 in a row and win 3.
Sorry for nitpicking
@@TimeNap 3 out of 5 aint bad either.
Nicholas Napolitano bro shut up 💯
You put up the score to the 2nd super bowl that NY won vs the pats when talking about the the season they beat them when they was undefeated, you put up the 21-17 score when the year they was undefeated the super bowl score was 17-14
Belicheck record with Brady was 219-66.
Belicheck record without Brady was 28-36.
Brady never came up with an offensive or defensive game plan.
Brady never played defense or special teams.
Brady never lead his team to a last second SB TD (like Montana).
Brady never kicked 3 game SB winning field goals.
Brady never shut down the RAMs the entire game.
Brady never shut down Atlanta in the second half.
Brady never stopped Seattle at the end of the game.
Brady did lose to sorry Eli Manning and the Giants twice.
Brady did lose to a nobody QB playing for Philly.
NE went 11-5 without Brady at QB.
You are welcome for the free football education.
Dude he won 7 Super Bowls it’s hard to argue that
@@RK-um9tuso brady didn’t play defense or anything obviously but he someone allowed the giants to have 2 game winning drives in the Super Bowl? How does that make sense
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It's crazy how wrong "haters" can be...
1) You can't use "Brady didn't do this...." then switch to "Brady did lose too Eli"
(Belichick never threw a TD or executed a game plan to be able kick a game winning FG)
2) NE went 11-5 with Matt Cassel...with the EXACT SAME team that went 18-1 with Brady.
(You also can't use Eli channeling his inner Peyton or David Tyree, a relative no-name, making one of the most incredible catches EVER as negatives toward Brady.)
(David Tyree: 1x pro-bowler - 54 catches, 650 yards, 4 TDs - CAREER STATS)
3) Belichick's career record SPEAKS FOR ITSELF and is IRREFUTABLE.
Having a losing record, even if it were just by a single game, is still garbage when compared to having more than THREE TIMES as many wins as losses.
4) Lastly, as if the points above aren't enough, Brady taking the same 7-9 non-playoff team and making them a 15-5 Super Bowl winning team....while winning 3 road playoff games against the bad Commanders, Brees and Rodgers, two other ALL TIME greats at the QB position only helps Brady and hurts Belichick, in terms of "legacy"
2020 Bucs: 15-5 Super Bowl Champs
VS
2020 Pats: 7-9 and not making the playoffs.
@@charlespeery1067 It's hilarious that he's had 10 days to come up some other BS excuse and can't.
Brady going to the Bucs was the best move he could have ever made, both career wise and PR wise. He won a Super Bowl with a team that basically allowed him to run the entire team as like a player/coach/GM and was also allowed to kick back and show that he actually has a personality. Just that video of him throwing the Lombardi trophy to another boat improved his image from "the GOAT who is kinda boring" to "the GOAT that is fun and cool"
You mean a prick.
I think it a good move for any qb who wants to proves that it was their talent that gave the team the ability to win big games.
yes but it still kinda hurt cause that could have been the pats 7th lol but so happy he got a 7th for himself, he very much desereved that, it stinks to see him not go out a champ. Almost shocked he even returned in his final years still proved he can win a playoff game and he didn't have Godwin.
@@axer3515 Belichick has a losing records in games Brady does not play in.
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Losing records? Except Cleveland in 1994 (11-5), Patriots in 2008 (10-5) with Matt Cassel, and Pats from 2020-2022 (25-25) when they went .500 for those 3 seasons combined.
You just don’t see other quarterbacks taking paycuts to help their team out. Brady was a good person for that alone.
That’s because tom plays to win not for the money. He’s married to someone who makes plenty of it
Though I agree he could’ve played hardball like everyone else and I think he is a really good humble dude with a level head and not a big ego…………………He’s the only player with a spouse that makes over 40 million a year. Kinda helps.
Russell Wilson took a lower salary in Seattle to help the team out.
Yeah but most Quarterbacks dont have a wife that makes as much if not more than them lol
Wyatt Walker Yes you are right about that & they don’t have 7 super bowl rings either.
I 100% believed that Bill Belichick threw that Superbowl against the eagles. There can be no other explanation as to why Butler was benched the entire game.
I agree.
In my opinion there is a significant piece missing to why he left. During the Super Bowl loss to the Eagles, Bill B had benched Malcom Butler the entire game due some some minor off-field action. If Butler had played, I think the Patriots would have won the SB.
That's a bit of a stretch but i'm sure the game would've been closer
I don’t think it’s close to this definitive (ie if butler plays, they win) but it’s the Super Bowl and when you’re getting burned that bad you should be trying anything.
Maybe. But it was bullshit in the biggest game of the year. Best CB on the team@@RM-56
@@RM-56 they legit picked on his back up the entire 2nd half lol like they went relentless on it. They knew we didn't have our starter in and they exposed that shit. Not to say Butler was a lock down guy he wasn't but he was much much better than his back ups lol he was the #1 corner at the time for the patriots and still top 15 in the NFL at least.
I agree. The Pats still may have lost to the Eagles even if Butler played, but I believe it would’ve given the Pats a much better chance to win.
There's got to be serious problems when 6 Superbowls aren't enough to make the locker room the happiest in the NFL but I'm glad that Brady left and proved what everybody but Belichick knew was the truth, Brady made him not the other way around. How many times have coaches come from the Belichick system only to fail miserably? The guy had a once in a lifetime QB and that's the only reason why he's still included in any football conversation.
true in a lot of ways but we gotta give Bill some credit, he did draft some bangers even if he doesn't get full credit for Drafting brady he still decided to pick him when Dick his lead player of personnel made the call. Also I know before you say it, Scott Pioli had a lot to do with the talent they got as well.
LOL! Bill doesn't play he coaches! Name one HOF coach that didn't have a HOF QB! Belichick is the greatest coach ever!
@@quentincrisp6933nah he’s mediocre
Belichick deserves his own credit and Brady deserves his own. They're both severely overhyped- that's not being negative about them, its saying they're both among the very best if not the best of their generation. But everyone treats them as indisputable godlike figures when they're not, they are just like the other generational talents of other eras. Brady compares similarly to Montana, Bradshaw and Graham. Belichick won a championship with the 1990 giants as an assistant coach. Both were elevated by being with Robert Kraft who is undoubtedly the best owner in the NFL.
Although Brady did abandon his girlfriend and child as soon as he got famous so that's pretty awful of him.
Name one coach since 2000 (21st C.) that has had over 130 AP 1st Team & Pro Bowl Players! Name them!🤔 You know nothing of real football & certainly much less about Brady's personal life that has nothing to do with football!@@booradley6832
The incident was from the 2019 final regular season game against Miami. Pats force a punt with 1:40 on the clock before half time. Belichick calls a timeout to give Brady the ball for a drive to put up points before the half. . . . Except, no. . . . No timeout, Fins run 40 seconds off the clock, Brady gets the ball with under a minute. Runs one play and the clock keeps running into half time. Ultimate disrespect for Brady and the offense and they lose to Miami, and KC gets the first-round bye. Great job coach. And great job for benching Malcolm Butler in the Superbowl and getting torched by Nick Foles. Defensive genius there, while Brady threw for 500 yards, a Superbowl record.
Brady going to the Bucs proved that he wasn't just a product of Belichick's system, but rather he was the driver of the offense all of those years. It was one of the best moves of his career.
He was the driver of the Patriot Way. When you see your best player prepare, work harder than anyone else and demand excellence from everyone. He knew how to lead his TEAM, motivate them and if you watch any interview (except AB) of his teammates, it’s clear they ALL would go through a wall for him. Guys came to NE to play with TB12 and not to play for Hoodie.
Belichick is just an average coach. Period.
That was a down year given the low attendance. They got lucky against the Saints and third time matches tend to yield different results if there was a sweep, and they played a QB who pretty much is a playoff bridesmaid who can't get the monkey off his back since his only SB as he lost at home the next year. Rams pretty much shut them down the next year and SF would have done the same. If only Seattle just let the Rams have the division and TB never goes to NO in divisional. Seattle has been known to always lose games to hurt the Saints.
@@jackwoods535 I am a realist. You get real. Pre Brady with Bledsoe, The Pats sucked. After Brady, the Pats suck. Parcells is a different man. He already knew football. He didn't need Belichick. At best Belichick is a great defensive coordinator. If not for Brady there wouldn't have been a following of superstars signing with the Pats and taking HUGE pay cuts. GET REAL dude. And Belichick is not the offensive brains. Not by a long shot.
He was a game manager the first few years
I would hardly call leaving a team after 20 years a “premature departure”.
In the context of the video his view is that Bardy *should have* ( or could have ) stayed with NE his entire career.
Well, it can be considered premature if the QB wins a SB the VERY NEXT YEAR. On a different team.
The Patriots were done in 2019, and Brady knew that he couldn't win there anymore.
As a starter in New England, Brady had a 4-5 record in his last 9 games.
THANK YOU!!!! Finally, someone talking sense! Sometimes it's just time to move on. It was time.
I was not always a Tom Brady fan by any means but his play on the field made me know one thing, that this man is a master quarterback and a Warrior.
What makes him a winner is that he AND whatever team he is on, can play ugly and STILL WIN!! GO BRADYTHEGOAT/BUCS!!
Who did you end up knowing that was a fan?
well all them Tom Brady "extra protection" rule changes didn't hurt his career either, find the Montana interview where Joe points that out and how the game has changed, he wouldn't have lasted 7 years in the league back then, and I am a huge Tom Brady fan and admire his skills and longevity
@@Good-Enuff-Garage what made you think Tom Brady wouldn't last 7 years back then? If Joe Montana can play for 15 years in that era, then Tom Brady could definitely play for 20 years. I assume you're under 20 and have never seen Montana play. That guy can't take hits like Brady and he doesn't take care of his body like Brady, he parties a lot, even uses drugs during the season.
@@rsoe9158 I am 50 thanks, and I live near SF so there you go, watched every game Montana ever played that I could, Brady can take hits, that is hilarious, the NFL made rules especially to protect him, and Joe Montana said all that not me, the game has changed, do you see any Full Backs these days? how about purely blocking tight ends? it's a pass happy league because of all the new rules, it's going to be two hand touch pretty soon, again I like Tom but him in the early 80s I don't think so
Goes to show how shallow Bill B is. He has issues with Brady but holds on to Mac Jones for 3 years. Wake up Bill !!
God, being a patriots fan in 2010s was insane. 8-straight AFC championship games, 5 super bowls, 3 wins, every season they knew you were the favorite and every season you came in and torched the league.
I used to get heat for saying from 2006 on that he was the SB favorite and the Patriots were the best and most dominant team year in and year out; but even when they came up short you knew they were the team to beat.
My Dad told me that year Peyton won his first chip that its ok son, I think its just his year - and I remember telling my Dad that something happened to Brady's face at the end of that game and that I thought he was about to go Super Saiyan lol
...then 07 happened
I have tickets for the Patriots and a Tampa Bay Bucs game Oct 3
Brady’s return to Gillette. Can’t wait
Awesome 👍 enjoy
Who you got for the game?
I'm not really a Brady, Bucs or Pats fan, just a fb fan but it'll either have to be a masterclass in scheme and execution by Bill and the Pats or Brady and the Bucs will run away with it. Tampa has a lot of talent and experience on the team that NE doesn't currently. It's not truly a fair matchup. One team is built to win right now and the other is in the beginnings of a rebuild, specifically on offense.
@@l33g3ndar33 Brady will shred them
@@Dingoplexor Yeah. That's the likely outcome. It would take a lot to stop the Bucs, especially coming off that L to the Rams.
I can't imagine how Brady must have felt walking onto the Foxboro field as the away team where he had won so many games as the home team QB in front of the same fans that had cheered for him for 20 years. I don't know if I could have done it.
especially after they couldnt pay him WHAT HE WAS WORTH..... had to leave, play for another team, and win another superbowl there !.
@@JohnSmith-bn7bl Nah, he was leaving, didn't matter how much Kraft was willing to pay. Brady didn't want to play another season with Coach Belichick.
Long time Tom Brady hater here. It started as anger over the Drew Bledsoe situation which caused me to stop following the Pats. And continued thereafter as he defeated so many of the teams I loved. Today I can look back and admit he is a class act, I can't name one thing about him that's bad. My own butt hurt prevented me from following and enjoying one of the greatest careers in NFL history. I've been watching old games trying to appreciate what I tried so hard to ignore all of those years. I honestly regret that I missed all of the excitement and happiness he brought Pat fans. Much respect to TB12.
Butthurt haha remember who the GOAT IS
A FUCKIN CHEATER THAT CHEATED EVERY FOOTBALL FAN FROM HAVING INTEGRITY IN OUR NFL GAME
@@steelernation6125 LOL you said NFL and integrity in the same sentence
That’s huge dude, congrats. Sometimes we take shit personal but at the end of the day, these people give their all to entertain us.
I'm doing the same thing with old games and been butt hurt since he defeated the eagles in February of 05. Being from the Philly area my whole life. I ignored and hated , now I'm in awe a bit over his accomplishments and work ethic as well
The Malcolm Butler debacle in the Philly Superbowl was rumored to be a large part of the problem between Tom and bill. Bill fd up bad that day. No way Philly wins of butler plays.
question is, what was Bill trying to prove? did he even want to win that game ?
@@JohnSmith-bn7bl his defense didn't?
Bills fan here.
Brady has, and is my worst nightmare to face. Hell! he should be for all teams. I can't stand the SOB. However, he is the best there ever was and is. He's also a class act, a nice guy, and a great family man. All the best to you Tom. You deserve respect. And sir, you've earned it in my book.
He is great but not greatest ever Montana was best ever I no Brady has more rings but Montana played teal man's football .if Brady ever took a qauter of the hits Montana did he would retired on his 20s Brady plays in a panty waste league where you can't hit the qb a league where you get hit hard you go in protocol Montana had played in this league Brady does he'd have 15 super bowls.
@Brian....quite illogical response full of feelings and bias.
It is very clear Brady is the best QB to play the game.
dude ... until yesterday i hated Brady until i saw how hard he had it getting into the nfl ... my mouth dropped to think that this guy i hated because he kept fucking my teams over was being treated like some 2nd rate quarterback ... just look at the money hes made from Patriots ... its a goddamn outrage ... how can he not be halfway to a billion dollars made in the NFL by now? HOWWWWW??????????????????
You are a noble person.
Admirable Sportsmanship, sir!
I never was a huge Brady fan, but the guy is amazing. What a career. Greatest QB in history no doubt. God speed in his retirement
100% agree.
You can't compare Tom Brady and today's football like it used to be year's ago he's good but he's no to Terry Bradshaw Roger staubach Dan Marino and the other great QBs from from the past
@@hohenseejohn1 :
@@hohenseejohn1 So basically you’re saying the position hasn’t evolved in the last 30+ years… let go of the past bro!
@@hohenseejohn1just because you grew up in that era doesnt make it the best era
Tom Brady is a class act. I could never stand Bill. Kudos to Tom, for getting away from New England, and moving on.
I love Belichick, but Brady was great enough that he should have let him do whatever he wanted. When you have a player that special on your team, you let them do whatever makes them happy, as long as they’re still performing. The other dumb thing about letting Brady go was that he had absolutely no backup or plan to replace him.
Jimmy G. was the plan. But BB had to trade him....
@@sikecar534 Ya, but Jimmy G had already been gone by then. When Belichick let Brady walk away he had no backup plan at all. They picked up a washed up Cam Newton right before training camp because that was the only option they could find
@@pete6705 Jimmy G. WAS the plan. But Brady went to Kraft and Jimmy was gone.
@@sikecar534Jimmy G just got benched for Aaron OConnel because he is trash just another example of Belichicks incompetence running a franchise he tried to get rid of the best QB in the NFL for Jimmy G Bill is a 🤡 love seeing him get exposed for the trash head coach he always was
That statement shows billicheck couldnt poor piss out of a boot.tom one a SB ,billyboy is what 3 N 9
I love that thumbnail. Bill is like:
Tom please DON'T LEAVE MEEE!!!!!!!! And Tom is like:
DONT TALK TO ME IM RUNNING AWAY!!!!
Just watched this October 2021. Buccaneers beat the Pats at Gillette and played the first super bowl in their home stadium - and naturally won it. Destroying the KC Chiefs whose only touchdown in Tampa occurred when the team plane landed - not one during the game. Perhaps in the long run Belichick gets Brown into a Brady clone - he definitely looks the real deal - and it will work for both. Tom needed a team that could win now, Belichick needed to rebuild someday. Will his new QB leave $100 million on the table to let Belichick look like a genius? That is an entirely different question. It wouldn’t shock me b/c Jones seems to have the character that winning is all that matters. Will he still feel that way after one, two, 3 titles? Only time will tell. As Boomer said, “that’s why they play the games.”
Jones is no Brady, Jones won't win 1 SB, FG kicker, WR, TE, DB, Brady had these, then had to do with what was given to him, then left. Jones won't be near Brady. Belichek will not have another run.
In 2020, Tom Brady became the first NFL player in history to play 20+ seasons with the franchise that drafted him, and then signed somewhere else. A record that will never be broken again, and a record that was previously held by (if you count traded as well) Joe Montana (14 Seasons with the 49ers, then got traded to the Chiefs).
Actually Brady holds the record for being protected by the NFL history.
Only QB in NFL history who you could not touch or nothing the passer would be called.
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I think The Hoody letting Brady spin in the wind with Deflategate had long lasting damage.
Just an observation here. As a long time Bucs fan, it's interesting to watch the relationship betweenhead coach Ariens and Brady. And as Ariens implies, he just lets Brady be Brady. So far, it seems to work. Brady has one of his best buds in Tampa to play pitch and catch with. Just a couple kids playing sand lot football. It seems to work.
I completely agree.. to me, it seems like he's actually having fun, and is obviously appreciated by ALL the coaching staff for a change. Just glad this game between the BUCS and PATS is finally over for TB...this game was way too weird, wacky and stressful.
Yes. How big of fool would you have to be to get in Tom's way. The man is a winner.
Well how did it work for them last week. He WON'T BE BACK.
It worked. Right into Tom Brady's retirement
@@tomjones5650 Bucs did not get a superbowl, sadly. But did tie for the best regular season record in the NFL. Brady had the most yards and TDs. So have to say it worked out pretty darn well, even if the season was not perfect.
For Brady to deal with Belichick's toxicity and still win on a high level is another testament of his greatness and mental strength.
Tom Brady volunteered to restructure his contract for the good of the team. He did it once again with Tampa Bay so they could bring the entire Superbowl team back.
I sold my season tickets of 26 years the week after that Titans game, we all knew he was outta here. I'll be at the game Sunday to watch Brady kick Belichick's ass. #FireGoodell
Why would you support a guy who skipped town on his teammates because the lean years had obviously arrived?
Why’d you say fire goodell
@@chriswalton1644 Are you for real? Did you just discover the NFL this week?
@@michaeldonnan6767 why support Brady? Are you serious? You obviously don’t know how it went down. Tom through out his whole career took pay cut after payout and restructured so the money could be used to get players to help him. Didn’t help Tom at all. Then 2016 after the greatest comeback ever in sports he wanted a a multiple year deal same deal as Drew Brees (same age but 5 less super bowls) kinda a big deal. Then bill gives him this fake 2 year deal. I’m a life time new Englander and route for all the teams. I’m 52 and have never seen an athlete of Brady’s stature, success, professionalism, team first guy get treated as he did, it disgusted me. That day I ordered my Brady jersey and became a Bucs supporter. It’s funny to see these videos of Celtics practicing back in the sixtys and Russel is sitting in the bleachers reading the paper while the rest of the team was practicing you know why cause Auerbach new he was special he was different and spoke with him as an equal and listened to his needs. I still love the pats and route for them…..except when Tom is on the other side. I think you need to watch the video again. The G.O.A.T getting treated like a JAG ( just another guy) disgraceful, embarrassing , other cities are laughing at us , you had the goat and did him dirty like that. Tom’s gonna make him feel it for a long time. And lastly doesn’t meet in person to say good bye…..CLASSLESS!
@@m-khs-1748 that Brady took less money is a false narrative. Just an FYI
Tom was the ultimate team player. He took less money to help the team. He rarely did commercials unless other players were involved. He had Gronk and Moss for a while, but didn’t always have great receivers. Tom left
because he wasn’t playing as well, that was do to the poor talent around him. Belichick never gave Tom the respect the goat deserved!
Tom Brady went to a Tampa Bay team that only needed a quarterback. It was an ideal situation for Tom Brady. The money didn't hurt either.
This breakup was like a rock band with huge egos, and one member left to join another band or to have a solo career. Brady went to join the Buccaneers in 2020 and Belichick stayed to run the Patriots however he wanted. We are currently observing the results of their mutual decisions. Just my opinion.
Both look good right now too
Thanks Tom.. thanks Bill B.
Regardless neither one talks smack about the other.
Definitely professionals..
BB tried to trade Brady to SF and Kraft overruled him and sent JimmyG instead. After 20 years TB deserved more respect from his coach and 6 rings. TB is a great fit with a less naive TB over his future.
I disagree. No one is more humble than Brady based on his accomplishments. He never asked or expected special treatment. Just due respect. BB could not/would not do that. So the humble GOAT took his talents to TB.
Why yes we are aren't we? Tom Brady is gone for not even two seasons and as Brady take the slide the New England Patriots have won 7 in a row. More wins on the road than at home. LOL! I kinda' think Brady is the diva going down and it's taken Belichick less than two seasons to rebuild to the hilt without him.
I've always hated the Pats(cause thet beat my team all the time)but I absolutely love Brady. Glad to see him playing for an "underdog" team😝
How are the bucs underdog
@@mykul5489 They haven’t traditionally been a powerhouse franchise, by any means. Of course, the Patriots weren’t one, either, though, until Bill got there and made them one, but a lot of young people probably don’t know that. They became a good team with Drew Bledsoe, but then, they became great with Brady.
@@chriswebster24 The bucs just needed a decent qb they had an elite defense and offense before tom came they just needed the final piece
I think benching Malcom Butler was the straw that broke the camel’s back. What a wasted performance. Bill letting a second string QB torch his defense and he leaves Malcom on the bench. Bill needs to go. It’s time to tear it down. Bill is great at keeping his defense supplied with talent but his offense is thin.
I've been watching NFL pro football since 1960 and I finally had to admit after seeing Unitus, Griese, Montana, Starr, Jurgensen, Van Brocklin etc, that Tom Brady IS the GOAT.
Bill Kilmer
I love the narrative way you introduced the game between the two.
Doing this level of breakdown should be done for more games
God, this upcoming game, Pats vs. Bucs...it'd be one thing if there was a possibility of a good contest, but that's just not realistic. Gonna have to watch my favorite team get their ass handed to them by our former QB. Really rubs the salt in those wounds.
I felt this
Texan fan here. So my football world has been 90% crap...lol. Anyway, after 20 years of winning with Brady and Belichick. Whats the feelings of the fans there? Are ya'll happy for Brady or upset with Brady, or upset with Belichick etc?
@@eleven8948 Most people get it...if nothing else, the man put his time in, and no one could've asked for more from him. The Pats went from a total joke to THE best franchise in the history of the game. Hard to be mad at a dude who made it all possible. Of course, there will always be those dicks that will call him a traitor and such.
@@themetalone7739 I hear ya and I agree. I was always a Brady fan because of the time and effort he put in as well. Dude is a wizard at figuring things out and faced lots adversity as well. I wasnt sure if it was Belichicks coaching or Brady's effort that was winning and now we can all see what it was (Mostly Brady). No wonder every single coach that has moved on from NE has failed miserably. Bill NoBrien screwed the Texans so bad its gonna be at least 5 years before things go right. Now there is a book coming out stating that NoBrien actually was trying to get fired too in order to be Belichicks successor. What a total douche. I wonder if NoBrien still would like to replace Belichick now that Brady is gone. Im sure isnt a dumbass to hire that moron anyway....lol
@@eleven8948 I'm happy for Brady personally. Honestly seeing Brady win would be nice because he would have beaten every nfl team if he does. On another hand being a Pats fan i wanna see them roll the Bucs but i'm not stupid lol the Bucs are going to win 60 to 6
7:22 he said 45, implying he'd retire when he's 45 years old.
He's now retired at the age of 45.
We could've known all along
I have been a huge pats fan since 1994 at the age of 6 I asked my grandpa who his favorite football team was because they lived in Rhode Island he said the New England Patriots I said mine too I was born and raised and still live in FL and thank God I loved and admired my grandpa so much to pick his team instead of liking a team down here in FL. If I wasn't a long time fan I would question the things in this video after seeing the huge AFC West pic and hearing you say they clinched the AFC West but this is by far one of the best videos about NE, BB and TB I have ever seen, I salute you sir
Chasing after your dreams means leaving the familiar to enter the unknown and being the best there.
The Bucs offense huddled in the shower in the visitors locker room at Gillette stadium would be an epic troll......
Premature departure. At 42 years old 😂😂😂
They are both assured their place in the HOF, but I will always put Brady ahead of Bill...
Brady has always been incredibly professional even at the worst of times. Belichick however lets his emotions destroy himself. I believe this is why Brady won this weekend.
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Honestly I dont think so. Im on the outside kind of a Belichick. Not showing many emotions if I dont think something is funny i.e.
It just makes you think on the inside a lot more. Thats about it. And his question couldve been: How do we go on the next years? How do go on without Tom?
Just that.
That HAS to be on a coaches mind, not showing it, doesnt really tell anything.
lmfao
I’m pretty sure it’s bc Nick Folk missed a field goal
@@sublime3784 Yes, the story would have been very different had he made it. Was a very close game.
How many players have ever stayed happy under one coach for 20 years? How many superstars have been so forced to sit down and just be quiet? Indeed, how many regular people have been happy working for the same boss for 20 years? No one really knows what was going on in Tom's head except Tom. My best guess is that he does respect Bill, and what Bill taught him, and provided for him over the years. But also just outgrew Bill. The mentee needed a break from the mentor who refused to accept that the mentee was now his equal. A fairly common story in many walks of life.
So Tom left the family farm to go see if he could make his fortune in the wider world, a story as old as story telling.
Bill Belichick NEVER taught Mr. Tom Brady anything! Bill was the luckiest man in the world to have Tom Brady to fall into his lap. As for as Belichick providing for Brady over the years. Hoss, that was the other way around. Brady at times was the lest paid Super Bowl winner in the league. You see what happen to Belichick when the old man went to the Bucks!
@@gadd3690 You must not have watched the Pats this season. Not a Pats fan, but they were good.
Very well said
Ummmmmmm no. Brady made Bellicheck
@@prollysus6083 Thank you for that deep well thought out analysis.
The first team to make 4 straight super bowls? WTF? The Bills lost 4 in a row, so they made it to 4 straight!
It was the Butler Super Bowl
2:12 correction: Bills made 4 straight superbowls
And lost every single one😆
No one remembers this
@@devilkazuya2001 damn beat me to it 🤣🤣
They Apsolutely did, people joke all they want, and call the cowboy the team of the 90's but it was Buffalo in the SuperBowl 4 times in a Row, yeah we lost qnd the dought set in there after a Bum field goal kick
@Ghost Everyone goes straight to Steelers for the 70's, but I honestly think the Phins can be _argued_ as the better of the two dynasties that decade. 80's was clear, and 90's was clear, but Buffalo was great, too.
As a Pats fan, this made me sad ):
As a niners fan, I fully understand your pain and sympathize!
Lol.. get more sad
All professional sports are scripted. It's just the WWE with better athletes.
Honestly, I'm glad Brady left the Patriots. With the benefit of hindsight now that Brady has returned to Foxboro as a member of the Buccaneers, I can proudly say this: most of us football fans don't hate Brady; we hate the vocal minority of Patriots fans with a constant need to flex their superiority everywhere. Just look at how they behaved when Brady made his entrance, or when Brady took a sack from his former team. "Savage" is the word I will use to describe the whole thing.
This was the player that brought them 6 championships, and they could not even show him a shred of respect. As a reminder: THIS was what fans of 31 other NFL teams have to put up with when Brady was a Patriot. The sheer disrespect and insufferable attitudes of this vocal minority is why a lot of us reasonable football fans can never appreciate Brady in his prime.
Very well said.
Patriot fan here since their inception 1960. Saw every game of theirs. Believe me, the Patriot way is Brady's way. Belichick will NEVER do anything substantial ever again without Tom. Tom has quietly proved that...past 3 seasons Bill has flunked. I am surprised Kraft has kept him...I would not be shocked if Bill is gone sometime during or after this 2023 season. His record stinks prior to Brady, and after Brady. Look it up. Lastly, Hope he NEVER gets past Shula's record. I cannot stand him. (can you tell?)
A premature departure? DUDE WAS THERE 20 YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is so much longer than anything in sports and most things in life. Man, I honestly question what you are thinking when you think this is a good idea smh. You literally showed Joe Montana, who the niner ran out of town. Tom owes Bill nothing and Bill owes tom his respect, which he has forsure.
He was just saying premature as abrupt or surprising
@@angryjoker7528 cmon man this video is brutal. He takes on this bad putting it nicely.
He was supposed to wait until Brady qualified for Social Security.
It's interesting that Belichick is the archetype of the cold, ruthless, coach. Bill Walsh is much more that. Bill Walsh once told Harris Burton something akin to "you're good enough to play in the NFL for seven more years, but you'll only spend the next four with us. Then we're going to trade you". To Walsh, all players were interchangeable cogs and as soon as one started showing signs of wear, he was to be replaced with a new one. There was no loyalty.
What finally broke the relationship was the sitting of Malcom Butler in Super Bowl LII
100% Brady thinks he should have 8 SB's but brady is delusional bc the rams SB he won the next year he didnt deserve at all lol
@@onebuffalo5402 hater gonna hate....he deserved it all and more fool
@@onebuffalo5402 didn't deserve it... a postseason run with 30 + ppg which is ELITE with the worst weapons in the league.
@@onebuffalo5402 So you just gonna ignore the fact that Brady outdueled Mahommes in the AFC championship game that year, at Arrowhead with no weapons? 😂😂
@@onebuffalo5402 get some friends
He spent 2 decades in New England. Not sure if is departure would be considered premature.
the BEST conflict moment between belichick and brady was when tampa bay buccaneers secured the playoff berth to the super bowl. brady was on camera calling..... belichick to tell the coach they were going to the super bowl. belichick was pissed with the call and threw the headset cursing the moment. priceless!!
video made me respect brady knowing he was going through pure bullshit
Whoever's gonna win, It would look good on their Documentaries.
It is kinda wild he didn’t finish his career there
I pray these two meet in the Super Bowl... GREATEST STORYLINE EVER
Im sure the NFL will make it happen...By way of rigged games of course.
Hard to beat Tom and Gronk going to Tampa and winning another one but that might do it.
The patriots was everyone's goal to beat every season
Oh Drew...After all these years I'm still sad how things ended💔 It was so nice to see a glimpse of him here.. Oh the days in the old stadium.. when ignorance was bliss, the seats were still affordable and the NFL wasn't woke..I miss you pal! ❤
What happend??
I lost "ALL RESPECT" for Bill when his ego cost them a Superbowl by benching that kid in the Superbiwl against the Eagles.
Well, looking back now it is clear the Bellichek is mediocre. He made some good trades and decisions, but without the QB spot settled he cannot build an offence. Looking back on the totality of his trades and draft picks, it is easy to see how much Brady carried those offences and trained the receivers. Bellichek got not only a top tier QB, but a top tier OC in Brady. Mac Jones is a good QB, but without a good OC and with time since Brady left, we just see that the offence cannot move the ball. The defence isn’t even good anymore. I think Bellichek needs to be fired if the Pats finish below a .300 (which is honestly what I am expecting).
I'm on Brady's side. Bellichek is a narcissist and should've been more grateful.
Belichick and Kraft are both Trump clones and follow his selfish philosophy.Brady never attended a White House SB champion honor with Trump.
@@rodbutler8069 dude stfu leave politics out of sports
For once I’m on Brady’s side too. And I’m a Steelers fan who hates him
@@rodbutler8069 Beats being a plumber -Bill Belichick
Bro... they would've been the 2nd team to make 4 straight Super Bowls. Lmao.
He also said they won afc west but there in afc east
Brady is the best ever. I wasn't that impressed after the first Super Bowl, only mildly impressed after his second, but damn, SEVEN?! And he got way better individually as the years went by... He was kinda a bus driver in his earliest years, but then he turned into a stat monster. And to still be near the top of the heap at his age, he's untouchable.
bellichick wanted brady out of his system it didnt meet up with his plan so he deliberately declawed tom gave him less than adequate weapons a makeshift offensive line i dont blame tom one bit for leaving and its pretty glaringly obvious that brady was the main reason for the dynasty as bellichick doesnt even have a 500% record without him but with him won 9 conference championships and 6 super bowls with a winning pctg of 760%
Wow AFC West, I thought I knew every team in my division since I am a Broncos fan. Are you sure it's not the AFC East that the Patriots are in.
I just want to say, without you, I wouldn't be into football as much as I am right now. News almost every day. Quality content as well
Right? That Josh Gordon post saved my fantasy team since Jeudy got hurt
Agreed
Thank you so much for the love Ethan, I absolutely love creating content for you guys :) Its nice to be appreciated and I'm glad you enjoy the content!
@@LulBruhDMV if it wasn't for Mike I would've have known about the Haskins trade until maybe a few weeks after. I don't really pay attention to trades and stuff
Agreed
The biggest responsibility of a professional football coach should be about maximizing each player’s potential. Disrespecting arguably the greatest quarterback in history of the sport isn’t it, especially when the guy is as great a team player who cuts his salary for the team. The saddest part is that the most logical explanation for his action is authority complex, a fancy way of say a coach being jealous of his player because he is more important for team success.
I remember back when Atlanta and New Orleans were NFC West and Phoenix/Arizona was NFC East.
Dude if it weren't for your channel, I wouldn't be so invested in football off the field. Keep it up!!!! 💯 Cheers from the other side of the Pacific ocean
I hope Tampas whole team comes out as pumped as Brady will be. They will destroy NE if they do
@Papa palpatine they still won so who cares
This isn't aging so well.
I've been watching your channel for quite a while. Your tendency to stack identical-meaning adjectives (which might be a regional/colloquial thing) notwithstanding, you are the best in the business. And this video was, by far, the best treatment of this subject matter I've yet seen. Keep up the good work.
There will never be Another Tom Brady.Coaches come and go ,but Tom Brady is in a class by himself.
I like this Mike guy.
Hey get off his D dude
@@devinb5937 wth go to sleep
Me too
@@devinb5937 the fact that when somebody compliments a dude, the first thing you thing is that... well its pretty telling.
Yeah, in the last year he has grown into a dope youtuber
I like that Brad's father still calls him Tommy even he's an NFL mvp and 40+ yrs old
Why wouldn't he call him that??
That's his son dummy
You apparently don’t have kids , not matter how old they are , they will alway be you kids. Aka his son.
@@youngjohn5076 you have no basis for your assumption.
@@ma5839 you are right , I read your original comment wrong. I thought you said why he did that .
Talk about " what have you done for me lately " . Brady gave the Patriots six super bowl and made Bilichek look like a genius whereas his monumental failures since Brady left prove that the coaches ' genius was based on the brilliance of Tom Brady.
It is a shame that Brady was not allowed to remain with the Patriots for the rest of his life.
2:15 we just gonna forget the Bills…they made 4 straight and lost all 4.
pats never even made it to 4 in a row so hes talking bs lol
@@onebuffalo5402 you are right... they were a 2015 afc title game missed XP by gostkowski from Making 5x straight Superbowls
His cowboys beat them 2x in that span to he should know that
The Bill's can finally make the playoffs at least now that Tom left lol. They literally made the playoffs once while he was in AFC east
@@onebuffalo5402 he said patriots attempted, he never said they made it. But yeah he’s wrong about them would’ve being the first. That’s crazy to pull off
Notice when players leave New England never want to go back and very few have good memories being there.
really? Patrick chung and Trent Brown both came back, so did martellus bennett and that dude didn't get along with anybody. Different strokes for different folk's
Belichick and McDaniels both showed they're nothing without Brady. All they had to do was keep their mouths shut, play their roles and let Brady cook. But they failed, got too prideful. McDaniels now having failed stints as HC of two different teams, and Belichick in last place with the Patriots. - WW
As a lifetime New England Patriot fan, I can easily say, we are all very angry at Bill for breaking up the Patriots/Brady dynasty. We did not care, at the end, if the Pats won another ring. All we wanted to do was watch Brady play for as long as he wanted and enjoy saying goodby, with the added bonus of knowing you always had a legitimate shot at a superbowl with Tom as your guy. Bill screwed it all up, determined to treat Brady like everyone else on the team, when, and apparently he is the only one not recognizing this, Brady was the GOAT, and had clearly earned the right to be treated so. Now Bills legacy is shattered and it is Brady who is now recognized as the reason the Pats had such a great run. Which makes Bill the top Patsy of all time, the GOAT!
I think Tom wanted to leave, so they let him. I believe he wanted to prove himself with another team.
LOL! Brady wanted to leave because he wanted another ring and 30+ million contract.
a contract that the Pats werent going to get anywhere near? i still cant believe that BS. @@sikecar534
Initially I didn't believe Seth Wickersham's article cuz I thought it was ESPN just making up some meaningless drama, but the way how Brady's camp has revealed what went on behind the scenes, damn, Seth wasn't wrong.
The Pat's ten year super bowl drought can be laid at Belichick's feet alone. It wasn't Bill's masterful coaching that created the Pat's winning culture, it was Brady's fabulous skill and competitive spirit. Brady went out and got a 7th ring. Belichick laid an egg. F you Bill.
Both are great, but Bill is far better than the 2nd best coach of the last 15 years. You can make a case that Brady hasn’t been the best QB of the last 15 years. In either way, the 2nd best QB is closer to Brady than the 2nd best coach is to Bill.
in 2018 "showing signs of decline" They beat the best team in the nfl in the playoffs, and by a lot. they destroyed the chargers, who had wayyyyyyy more talent.
When Billy boy benched Malcom Butler in the Super Bowl vs the Eagles and the Eagles picked apart the Pat's secondary... exactly where Butler would have been and cost the team and Brady that Super Bowl... THAT is the moment TB 12 was out and that is still the moment the Pats started their death spiral into the ugly mediocracy the depths of which were previously only known by the Jets and they are still on today.. with Billy boy.
That wife looking for a pool boy made the wholeeee video worth while. Lmao
2:12 you are wrong.
Buffalo Bills appeared and lost in 4 consecutive Super Bowls;
1990 New York 20
Buffalo 19
1991 Washington 37
Buffalo 24
1992 Dallas 52
Buffalo 17
1993 Dallas 30
Buffalo 13
when you say "break" it is hilarious.
This is a good example of what arrogance, pride, and disloyalty gets you......your BEST PLAYER of ALL TIME leaves because of the bad treatment he got......then he goes away and wins another Superbowl with another team. By the way, that team made the playoffs 3 years in a row and two NFC championship games. Chew on that for awhile Belicheck. Since Brady got run off..... how's that tastin' now Pats fans?
Amazing video bro. The amount of detail and the story telling tone you have. Wow!
He was wrong about two things they would have been 2nd team make 4 straight nd said they won afc west but there in afc east
Now I see belichick as a villain I feel bad for Tommy
coach is just doing his job just like Tom and Tom SR. just said, theres no villainy
Belichick record without Brady: 67-95. Enough said.
Best coach of all time and best QB of all time... i am suprised it even lasted that long.
Now both winning like crazy. Tom with Bucs and Bill with Pats.
i dont c bill winning like crazy?
@@kennethsmith8968 dude you can't win the Superbowl every single year, you can say the same thing about brady on the bucs, why didn't he win the Superbowl with all that talent? Its football, anything can happen, the worst team in the nfl can smoke the best team in the nfl under the right conditions. Mac was on his first year and we made playoffs, personally im happy with that. Belicheck has 6 rings which is literally more than Vince Lombardi the literal person the Superbowl trophy was named after. Is that not enough? 😂
@@SouleGuy the only reason y lombardi only has 5 rings is because he died at age 57.how old is bill?70+
@@kennethsmith8968 woaah im not saying lombardi isnt a legend, im just saying belichick gets a lot of disrespect compared to other legendary coaches
Even Brady cannot survive in the cold forever, natural progression to leave after 20 years God Bless him & we still love him in Tampa
I love the way you did the intro. Taking a look at the history of champions
Became a Brady fan. Glad I took the time to appreciate him.
Good video bro. I wish Nick Folk made that field goal against Tampa bay. Can you imagine the memes of Brady losing to the patriots 🤣
I never liked Brady early on, but you have to respect that man as a player!!!!!