Great Video, Thank you! I wanted to list some things that werent explicitly said that caused me some confusion/faiilures 1. Ho-oh's second form removes stat buffs, So stacking chandelure in phase 1 is just to be able to consistently do the set up for phase 2 2. Belly Drum on the turn you initiate phase 2 allows you to get the stat bonuses, as well as manipulate Ho-oh's attack selection to Solar Beam Poliwrath 3. The last move/switch you make with alteria (in phase 2) is to make Alteria the target of the solar beam. thanks again for the video!
Thanks for these points! My bad for missing them! Hard to remember what mechanics to explain after doing the fight so many times 😅 One more to add is that sky drop is a flying attack in which flying types are immune! I don't think I actually stated that in the video. That's why it targets poli, because it'll be super effective against fighting but Altaria is immune to the damage
@@JinxedBoon Yes, you're right, sorry. I'm not a native English speaker and had simply overheard the second belly drum XD. This method works well and I've just managed it. Thank you :)
These points I had to figure out also I died 6 times before I figured out the belly drum the second time after the second form switch I kept getting air cut and was like wtf haha
tnx for this i love the fact that you incorporated e4 poli and chande for this one, as its more efficient built team for multiple purposes. hoping for more future quality content. cheers
Definitely glad to have multi purpose pve mons! I bet all 3 of these will be great in raids soon too! Altaria could be amazing to shut off weather controlling raid bosses
It took way more work than it should have to understand their videos 😅 luckily I used to play monster hunter online so I'm pretty used to translating from Chinese
amazing video guide! i struggle at first until i understand the substitute lock, i even had time to set up safeguard and the belly drum for final phase. you are grate!
Welcome to the game! Yeah this can be decent money as a weekly once Johto is done! Check out my trainer rerun video for probably the best early game money making strat!
Tried this and Radiant Ho-oh just kept spamming Air Cutter. Wiped my team easily. When it went into Radiant form, it cleared all my teams stat increases too.
Yup it does that. This is why you need to belly drum going into phase 2 with safeguard up. Then it'll just solarbeam your poliwrath since it is low hp (assuming your build is correct)
The Hooh keeps Earth Powering my Chandelure instead of attempting to Sky Drop my Poliwrath....?????? Then once I finally get over that hurdle, Hooh Air Cutters my team in Radiant phase instead of Air Dropping Polowrath....any suggestions???
@dylanstotts9438 never seen the earth power thing but sometimes on a budget build, it seems to target chandelure if entei comes out first. As for the second part, it sounds like you are mistiming the belly drum. You need to use it on the last turn of phase 1 so it activates as you enter phase 2, before phase 2 move selection.
@@JinxedBoon funny thing is I've heard that before, but Raikou came out first this time? And yes I timed the belly drum correctly, so idk what's going on w phase 2. To be clear, I've completed the fight multiple times with Entei coming out first giving me the only problem. Not sure why all of a sudden this is happening with Raikou out first...
@PIKI1Pioneer I'm guessing that is a mistimed belly drum. You need to make sure belly drum is chosen in phase 1 but as you transition into phase 2. If move selection happens in phase 2 with poli at full hp, hooh will choose air cutter
I tried mantine and chandelure first but it didn't work, then I found this strategy and I was able to defeat him 5 times in a row, thanks. It took me 3 tries to understand it tho XD
@@JinxedBoon it always uses that crit wind. It never used Solarbeam. Wish this could be as easy as Red sweep lol. That KO the first form at the same time with Belly Drum is quite tight.
@@JinxedBoon budget with 27-31ivs across 5 stats. Also is it really necessary to set a sub on Altaria? Somehow Ho-oh skydrop already has no effect on Altaria dealing no damage.
@rageengine6272 weird and you are modest, adamant, and a sdef nature on them? You don't need sub but it'll save you time by skipping sky turns. Sky drop is a flying move but does no damage to flying types, which is why it doesn't affect altaria. I forgot to mention that in the video
for some reason (probably my evs/ivs) if entei come in first he extremespeeds poli and ho-oh attacks chandelure, i cant use altaria to eat both attacks so if i start the battle and entei comes first i just run and go back up. every other dog BEHAVES, entei is just a bad boy.
Arceus didn't do a good job training entei! But yeah if you are on a budget build, for some reason entei changes the ai, I'm not sure why or what the break point is. With the proper build there is a very small chance it happens too but I have about 60 hooh clears with the proper setup and it's only done this 1 time
Thanks for the suggestion Jinxed. It work for me though mine is composed of 26 Iv average with correct nature. Though I need to repeat it twice cuz I forgot the shiny Ho-oh Strat. Please upload more vids for us new players. More Power🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Once you get the strat down, it's super easy! I've been doing it 4 times per week since I discovered the strat! Glad it was helpful! More definitely on the way
Thanks that's cool i just don't understand what's the point if getting the right pokemons with the right stats is more work than the fight itself. I did this in a couple tries but it's just not a fun fight, it's made for tryhars pve players while being a miserable experience to who just wants to enjoy the game
@ZennybearOG to each their own! I really enjoy figuring out the difficult content but I get why some wouldn't. I do think in a long term mmo, it is important to have challenging fights like this though. Story is great for experiencing the game but the mmo mechanics are important for long term retention and enjoyment/economic balance.
@@JinxedBoon you guys are crazy and i mean it the good way! Meanwhile i feel like switching back to normal silver because it's so much more relaxed lol
I followed this exact strat but it isn't working at all, ho-oh is sky dropping my poli and chandelure turn 1, is this video outdated? I just bred the mons too ffs
He should sky drop poli but the swap with altaria makes him sky drop altaria. I haven't done it this week due to the event but it had worked fine weekly for me. Double check the moves each turn
I'm actually reworking the mori/cynthia strat to work with the chandelure and poliwrath since they are so good for e4 also! E4 guide coming tomorrow too if all goes according to plan!
Unfortunately, it doesn't work because the radiant Hooh uses the attack Air cutter on the first turn. And on the second turn of radiant Hooh all my Pokemon are death, except altaria. Any Hints for me ?
@@JinxedBoon Yes, you're right, sorry. I'm not a native English speaker and had simply overheard the second belly drum XD. This method works well and I've just managed it. Thank you :)
I tried it but for some reason ho-oh attacks and oneshots my chandelure. During the first turn i set safeguard with chandelure instead of altaria. Could that be because i didnt use calm mind on it?
Thanks! Probably $50-70k for altaria, $80-120k for budget chandelure, and poliwrath is the expensive one to be 100% consistent but you can get away with an ~$80k one as shown however that does introduce a bit of rng. So it'll take about 2 runs to pay itself off on a budget
Hey, wouldn´t it be more usefull to use waterfall insted of ice punch on poliwrath for more damage because its 2x effective and stab? or is there a particular reason for ice punch?
Yup! I put that note in the video as text! The reason for ice punch is because it's the same one you can use for the E4 reruns. If you are just doing it for hooh then use waterfall though!
I started this fight on my alt account and when ho ohs second form appears. 1 turn after my chandelure loses +6 sp attack making fight un winnable 4 times in a row. Is this a bug. The same team worked on my main account.
@SHMlKE good luck! Let me know how it goes for you! Another tip I found recently is if you use altarias turn to swap with poli after the first solar bean in phase two, you can save a turn since poliwrath won't go down!
When I tried this Ho oh now uses a different move where it's one term air slash rather than solar beam in the second stage making this team not really work now? Do u have a solution
@ben.nguyen253 with certain budget builds it can happen when entei comes in first. I'm not sure why but it seems to happen more the more budget the team gets.
@whosTreq mine is still working fine with the proper 5x31 and nature/moveset. I'm assuming you have some budget ones so like I mentioned in the video, it seems like when running budget and entei comes out, hooh goes for chandelure instead of poli
@whosTreq oh yeah, itll work perfect with suicune and raikou start but otherwise you will need to alter a bit! Not sure why it gets weird with the entei lead on a budget though
@jonathankraut6503 probably mis timing the second belly drum. Make sure to use it on the last turn of phase 1 so that it goes off after the ko and in phase 2 before move selection
@@JinxedBoonit is still a problem even when timing is right, seems to be nerfed. It will always do solar beam turn 1/2, then third turn is always air cutter to kill poliwrath
@@ChanDaDon91 that means you are probably incorrectly timing your final turn of phase 1. You need to select belly drum during the final turn of phase 1, not on the first turn of phase 2. This way, it will activate in phase 2 before move selection
@marcussunde4737 yup he won't use it on the first turn of phase 2 if you time belly drum correctly though. Make sure to choose it on the last turn of phase 1 before going into phase 2
Gotta time that Belly drum this video saved me tons of time. Also I did this with a budget team everyone Alteria Sassy IV's 164 Poliwrath Adament IV's 126 & Chandlure Modest IV'S 160
@Miden1437 hope that means you solved it! Let me know if you need anymore help! It should work with a budget team most of the time! Only issue seems to be when entei comes in first and I'm not sure why
im using budgets, poli is missing 31 def, chandelure is missing 31 hp and def. EVs are all correct tho. AI takes different decisions, figured the pre reborn phase, post he is just doing air cutter and cooking my poliwrath...
That is usually due to mistiming the belly drum. You need to use it in the last turn of phase 1 of the fight then it'll go off in phase 2 before move selection occurs. If poliwrath is full health during phase 2 move selection, hooh will just air cutter
Like I mentioned in the video, if you are running more of a budget team, it seems like it will pick up chandelure but only when entei is the first dog to come out. I'm not sure exactly why
@@SHMlKE I continued without Chandelure until the 3 dogs were down then used a Revive, xSpAtk, xSpDef and swapped until Calm Mind got to +6, then continued as the video. I originally commented thinking once Chandelure was gone it was lost.
The two reasons I recommend this strat over the mantine strat are that it's WAY faster and second, since the LNY event, it seems like Hooh is prioritizing the AoE that wipes stat bonuses so you would have to calm mind all the way back up again. Not sure if Mantine has a way to deal with that but it seems most strats that require chandelure to calm mind to +6 in phase two are very inconsistent now
I found with a very budget team, if entei came in first it would do that but would be fine with raikou or suicune first. I'm not really sure why though
@@ItsKitas yep I beat him consistently now. So, if Entei appears first, Hooh will attack and kill Chandelure. What you do is continue taking down all 3 dogs. Once they are all down, revive Chandelure and use calm mind until he is plus 6 - just stall with your other Pokémon while doing so.
@@dylanstotts9438 So i keep doing the strategy shown in the video with the ( shifts ) between Poli and Altaria until i kill the three dogs then i revive chandelure after 3 dogs and buff him right ? I managed to do it when raikou showed up first :D
Yup! Spatk doesn't hurt for the final phase but he is only attacking once or twice and just doing 3-6% anyways. Unless you are using it for something else, I'd just go as cheap as possible with it since it isn't dual purpose like chandelure and poli
@@JinxedBoon Start of the phase 2 I did belly drum but since he does air cutter there was not enough HP on Wrath therefore it fails. And boss keeps spamming air cutter till Altaria remains. I have the 3 pokemons exactly you said on video.
@Rivena3 you need to belly drum in the last turn of phase 1 on the same turn chandelure KOs phase 1 hooh. That way you will use belly drum before hooh chooses and attack in phase 2 and it'll choose to attack the low HP poli
To make the proper team, just under $2m probably that is for the 5x31 for e4 runs to. Doing the budget ones is less consistent but probably $250k total or so
When you get a chance could you create a guide for e4 re running? I wanna build this team in your vid and use it for both but cant find the team comp that utilizes poliwrath. Thanks
I should be working on it soon! I have a few streams that I do it in so you can check those out (although I'm really distracted by doing the stream so I make some mistakes!) Otherwise feel free to dm me on disc and I can send you the team! Should have a guide out at some point though!
Hey man, really appreciate your channel! I have an issue with this setup, i'm trying to follow your steps but after the first turn ( safeguard - belly drum - calm mind) ho - ho just sky drops my chandelure. Am i missing something?
Thanks dude! I found that if you are running a very budget version, when entei comes in as the first beast, for some reason it makes hooh go for chandelure. In my testing, it still worked with budget versions if raikou or suicune came first but you might just need slightly better ones or to keep trying until the different beast comes in!
@@JinxedBoon Yes, i realized that bad rng can ruin your run pretty quickly. i struggled a bit but after like 15 tries i finally made it :) . at first i had no idea what i was doing but now i think i nailed it, I coached a friend of mine and he made it first try! So thanks again for you help dude, really appreciate it
@leonardovaccaro2038 glad it worked! Just a heads up, if you decide to get non budget team, there is no rng! I run it 4 times per week perfectly smooth!
@JinxedBoon not really, I have a 1/3 chance of just having the fight work perfectly which isn't too bad. But without entei starting everything went good... you weren't joking about high IV poke... got me to 1 hp and me getting him to 1hp multiple times. Every little bit helped lol 😆
When Ho oh starts with Entei he'll sky drop the chand rather than the poli. Too offset this I started with Alteria in the middle just in case to swap to chand since it dies to sky drop. Issue is that the Entei extreme speeds the poli and kills it. Thoughts on getting around this? Also I swapped ice punch for waterfall since it'll one shot the Entei even if Raiku comes in before it.
Once you get the hang of it, it's super easy! I'm doing it on multiple alts weekly now and it's a breeze! But I made a ton of mistakes in my first few runs trying to learn it so just keep practicing!
Great Video, Thank you! I wanted to list some things that werent explicitly said that caused me some confusion/faiilures
1. Ho-oh's second form removes stat buffs, So stacking chandelure in phase 1 is just to be able to consistently do the set up for phase 2
2. Belly Drum on the turn you initiate phase 2 allows you to get the stat bonuses, as well as manipulate Ho-oh's attack selection to Solar Beam Poliwrath
3. The last move/switch you make with alteria (in phase 2) is to make Alteria the target of the solar beam.
thanks again for the video!
Thanks for these points! My bad for missing them! Hard to remember what mechanics to explain after doing the fight so many times 😅
One more to add is that sky drop is a flying attack in which flying types are immune! I don't think I actually stated that in the video. That's why it targets poli, because it'll be super effective against fighting but Altaria is immune to the damage
@@JinxedBoon Yes, you're right, sorry.
I'm not a native English speaker and had simply overheard the second belly drum XD.
This method works well and I've just managed it. Thank you :)
@jaba6720 great, glad it worked! I should have explained the second belly drum better. That's my fault! Glad it's good now though 😊
These points I had to figure out also I died 6 times before I figured out the belly drum the second time after the second form switch I kept getting air cut and was like wtf haha
tnx for this i love the fact that you incorporated e4 poli and chande for this one, as its more efficient built team for multiple purposes. hoping for more future quality content. cheers
Definitely glad to have multi purpose pve mons! I bet all 3 of these will be great in raids soon too! Altaria could be amazing to shut off weather controlling raid bosses
I was planning to build a team and was trying to wrap my head around exactly how the chinese were going at it😅 thanks a lot!
It took way more work than it should have to understand their videos 😅 luckily I used to play monster hunter online so I'm pretty used to translating from Chinese
Still works great! No problems on any of my runs. Thanks!
amazing video guide! i struggle at first until i understand the substitute lock, i even had time to set up safeguard and the belly drum for final phase. you are grate!
I really love your content so far. THANKS ❤
Thank you for watching ♥️
one third of the views of this video are just me watching it because I failed the last phase
@nico-ob6wj 😂 it takes some getting used to but once you get it, it's a breeze
Great guide, thanks!
Nice. Been holding out for this one. Thank you very much!❤
Hope it all makes sense and works for you! Thanks for the support ❤️
E4 Poli yet no E4 guide on your channel. Can't wait for it 🤩
Had to give a little teaser 😉
can't wait for it
@@JinxedBoon
Another amazing guide and a video well exaplaining the content.
I legit cannot believe the timing of this guide when I just started this game last week.
Welcome to the game! Yeah this can be decent money as a weekly once Johto is done! Check out my trainer rerun video for probably the best early game money making strat!
Tried this and Radiant Ho-oh just kept spamming Air Cutter. Wiped my team easily. When it went into Radiant form, it cleared all my teams stat increases too.
Yup it does that. This is why you need to belly drum going into phase 2 with safeguard up. Then it'll just solarbeam your poliwrath since it is low hp (assuming your build is correct)
This strategy worked flawlessly on the first try. Thanks much!!
Awesome guide dude keep it up
Hey just popping in to say your are doing great! Keep up the content grind its good stuff.
Thank you so much! Been having a lot of fun doing this and there are so many topics that I want to cover so I'm definitely planning on it!
The Hooh keeps Earth Powering my Chandelure instead of attempting to Sky Drop my Poliwrath....?????? Then once I finally get over that hurdle, Hooh Air Cutters my team in Radiant phase instead of Air Dropping Polowrath....any suggestions???
@dylanstotts9438 never seen the earth power thing but sometimes on a budget build, it seems to target chandelure if entei comes out first.
As for the second part, it sounds like you are mistiming the belly drum. You need to use it on the last turn of phase 1 so it activates as you enter phase 2, before phase 2 move selection.
@@JinxedBoon funny thing is I've heard that before, but Raikou came out first this time? And yes I timed the belly drum correctly, so idk what's going on w phase 2. To be clear, I've completed the fight multiple times with Entei coming out first giving me the only problem. Not sure why all of a sudden this is happening with Raikou out first...
Looking foward for E4 Guide with meta team
Worked flawlessly, thanks!
Radiant ho-oh is keep using air cutter and poli with chandelure are going down in 2 turns what can i do about that?
@PIKI1Pioneer I'm guessing that is a mistimed belly drum. You need to make sure belly drum is chosen in phase 1 but as you transition into phase 2. If move selection happens in phase 2 with poli at full hp, hooh will choose air cutter
I tried mantine and chandelure first but it didn't work, then I found this strategy and I was able to defeat him 5 times in a row, thanks. It took me 3 tries to understand it tho XD
Glad it worked! It's WAY faster than the mantine strat too! I do it on 4 characters per week now and it works smooth every time!
It does not use Solarbeam in the Radiant form. it keeps using that crit wind attack killing my whole team.
On the first attack in the phase?
@@JinxedBoon it always uses that crit wind. It never used Solarbeam.
Wish this could be as easy as Red sweep lol. That KO the first form at the same time with Belly Drum is quite tight.
@rageengine6272 weird, I've tested it a ton and never had that happen. Are you using 5x31 and natured or budget?
@@JinxedBoon budget with 27-31ivs across 5 stats. Also is it really necessary to set a sub on Altaria? Somehow Ho-oh skydrop already has no effect on Altaria dealing no damage.
@rageengine6272 weird and you are modest, adamant, and a sdef nature on them?
You don't need sub but it'll save you time by skipping sky turns. Sky drop is a flying move but does no damage to flying types, which is why it doesn't affect altaria. I forgot to mention that in the video
for some reason (probably my evs/ivs) if entei come in first he extremespeeds poli and ho-oh attacks chandelure, i cant use altaria to eat both attacks so if i start the battle and entei comes first i just run and go back up. every other dog BEHAVES, entei is just a bad boy.
Arceus didn't do a good job training entei! But yeah if you are on a budget build, for some reason entei changes the ai, I'm not sure why or what the break point is. With the proper build there is a very small chance it happens too but I have about 60 hooh clears with the proper setup and it's only done this 1 time
just did it first try. It almost was exactly like your fight. thanks for the help
Goes the exact same every time! Nice and simple strategy for sure! Glad to help
Thanks for the suggestion Jinxed. It work for me though mine is composed of 26 Iv average with correct nature. Though I need to repeat it twice cuz I forgot the shiny Ho-oh Strat. Please upload more vids for us new players. More Power🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Once you get the strat down, it's super easy! I've been doing it 4 times per week since I discovered the strat! Glad it was helpful! More definitely on the way
Thx Very much men, a big hug, I had never been able to defeat ho oh
Glad it worked well for you!
Thanks that's cool i just don't understand what's the point if getting the right pokemons with the right stats is more work than the fight itself. I did this in a couple tries but it's just not a fun fight, it's made for tryhars pve players while being a miserable experience to who just wants to enjoy the game
@ZennybearOG to each their own! I really enjoy figuring out the difficult content but I get why some wouldn't. I do think in a long term mmo, it is important to have challenging fights like this though. Story is great for experiencing the game but the mmo mechanics are important for long term retention and enjoyment/economic balance.
@@JinxedBoon you guys are crazy and i mean it the good way! Meanwhile i feel like switching back to normal silver because it's so much more relaxed lol
I followed this exact strat but it isn't working at all, ho-oh is sky dropping my poli and chandelure turn 1, is this video outdated? I just bred the mons too ffs
He should sky drop poli but the swap with altaria makes him sky drop altaria. I haven't done it this week due to the event but it had worked fine weekly for me. Double check the moves each turn
Great guide, I made a perfect chandelure but I wanna use it for morimoto and cynthia too, is there any way or do I have to make another chandelure?
I'm actually reworking the mori/cynthia strat to work with the chandelure and poliwrath since they are so good for e4 also! E4 guide coming tomorrow too if all goes according to plan!
@@JinxedBoon thx man, looking forward for ur vid
Unfortunately, it doesn't work because the radiant Hooh uses the attack Air cutter on the first turn. And on the second turn of radiant Hooh all my Pokemon are death, except altaria. Any Hints for me ?
He does that if you don't ready belly drum to go off during the transition into phase 2
@@JinxedBoon Yes, you're right, sorry.
I'm not a native English speaker and had simply overheard the second belly drum XD.
This method works well and I've just managed it. Thank you :)
I tried it but for some reason ho-oh attacks and oneshots my chandelure. During the first turn i set safeguard with chandelure instead of altaria. Could that be because i didnt use calm mind on it?
@@amvgod4786 could be, that is really strange. Are your builds proper?
Neat guide dude how much could making this team cost(on a budget (?
Thanks! Probably $50-70k for altaria, $80-120k for budget chandelure, and poliwrath is the expensive one to be 100% consistent but you can get away with an ~$80k one as shown however that does introduce a bit of rng. So it'll take about 2 runs to pay itself off on a budget
Hey, wouldn´t it be more usefull to use waterfall insted of ice punch on poliwrath for more damage because its 2x effective and stab? or is there a particular reason for ice punch?
Yup! I put that note in the video as text! The reason for ice punch is because it's the same one you can use for the E4 reruns. If you are just doing it for hooh then use waterfall though!
@@JinxedBoon Ah okay didnt saw that thanks for the reminder :D
Since im trying to use chandelure for the morimoto/cynthia rerun too can I change calm mind with hidden power ice and still works?
It should work however HP ice is really expensive to put on so you probably don't want to be swapping it out often
I started this fight on my alt account and when ho ohs second form appears. 1 turn after my chandelure loses +6 sp attack making fight un winnable 4 times in a row. Is this a bug. The same team worked on my main account.
No this isn't a bug, it wipes all stat bonuses when going into phase 2. That's why you need to belly drum poli as you enter the phase!
@@JinxedBoon okay tyvm
@SHMlKE good luck! Let me know how it goes for you! Another tip I found recently is if you use altarias turn to swap with poli after the first solar bean in phase two, you can save a turn since poliwrath won't go down!
@JinxedBoon got em coach. Problem was I had alteria and poliwrath backwards so he was killing poliwrath to early lol
That is a very good tip as well I'll keep that in mind
When I tried this Ho oh now uses a different move where it's one term air slash rather than solar beam in the second stage making this team not really work now? Do u have a solution
Sounds like you arent using belly drum on the last turn of phase 1 so you get it at the start of phase 2
Anyone know why on turn 2 the ho-oh attacks my chandelure instead of the Altaria?
@ben.nguyen253 with certain budget builds it can happen when entei comes in first. I'm not sure why but it seems to happen more the more budget the team gets.
Now ho oh takes up chandeler instead of altaria
With 5x31 poliwrath and chandelure?
Yeah, worked fine couple weeks ago, now he took chandelure instead of altaria :/
@whosTreq mine is still working fine with the proper 5x31 and nature/moveset. I'm assuming you have some budget ones so like I mentioned in the video, it seems like when running budget and entei comes out, hooh goes for chandelure instead of poli
@@JinxedBoon My chandelura is 2x31 yes, its still manageable though! Just a bit different approach from your video ^^
@whosTreq oh yeah, itll work perfect with suicune and raikou start but otherwise you will need to alter a bit! Not sure why it gets weird with the entei lead on a budget though
It worked thanks 👍🏻
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Thank you ❤️ I do my best! Appreciate you watching
For some reason secon Stage Hooh only usw Air Cutter insteat of solar beam can Simone hekobme With that?
@jonathankraut6503 probably mis timing the second belly drum. Make sure to use it on the last turn of phase 1 so that it goes off after the ko and in phase 2 before move selection
@@JinxedBoonit is still a problem even when timing is right, seems to be nerfed. It will always do solar beam turn 1/2, then third turn is always air cutter to kill poliwrath
@@bearaesthetixfitness did you figure it out? I'm having the same issue, following the turn of the video exactly
When does ho oh farming restart? It hasn't appeared for 48 hours.
You can only beat it once per week after story is finished
Tried fighting Ho Oh and it now uses air cutter, your video doesn’t show Ho Oh use it once. Was this an update since your video has been out?
@@ChanDaDon91 that means you are probably incorrectly timing your final turn of phase 1. You need to select belly drum during the final turn of phase 1, not on the first turn of phase 2. This way, it will activate in phase 2 before move selection
Was Air Cutter a move Ho-oh used when this video was made?
@marcussunde4737 yup he won't use it on the first turn of phase 2 if you time belly drum correctly though. Make sure to choose it on the last turn of phase 1 before going into phase 2
@@JinxedBoon I'll try it again. Belly drum keeps not working 2nd time ffirst phase.
Gotta time that Belly drum this video saved me tons of time. Also I did this with a budget team everyone Alteria Sassy IV's 164 Poliwrath Adament IV's 126 & Chandlure Modest IV'S 160
@Miden1437 hope that means you solved it! Let me know if you need anymore help! It should work with a budget team most of the time! Only issue seems to be when entei comes in first and I'm not sure why
@@JinxedBoon got a video for Red on re-runs? or is he just a pain?
Good vid!
would a calm togekiss work rather than a altaria?
You can test it! As long as you have safeguard, sub, and roost you should be fine!
Doesn't work for me, no matter how many times i tried radiant ho oh always claps my poliwrath 1-2 hits
@chomosuke4584 it shouldnt be hitting poli. You need to time the belly drum so it is chosen in phase 1 and goes off as you swap into phase 2
@@JinxedBoonohh thanks i didn't even knew you need to time belly drum, cause i always failed
im using budgets, poli is missing 31 def, chandelure is missing 31 hp and def. EVs are all correct tho. AI takes different decisions, figured the pre reborn phase, post he is just doing air cutter and cooking my poliwrath...
That is usually due to mistiming the belly drum. You need to use it in the last turn of phase 1 of the fight then it'll go off in phase 2 before move selection occurs. If poliwrath is full health during phase 2 move selection, hooh will just air cutter
@@JinxedBoon ty, could do it last week thanks to this.
Hi jimxed, ho oh attacking me using air cutter and not solar beam, why is that happening?
That is caused by incorrect timing on the second belly drum. Double check the last turn of phase 1!
This is happening to me too and the only thing I do differently than the vid is having to drain punch twice I don’t get it
How do I prevent Ho-oh skydropping chandelure?
Like I mentioned in the video, if you are running more of a budget team, it seems like it will pick up chandelure but only when entei is the first dog to come out. I'm not sure exactly why
@@JinxedBoon Not running that much of a budget team, chandelure is 31 hp 29 def
@@Daniel-ty9ei and it is modest? What is the stat spread of poli?
@@JinxedBoon Yes it's modest, my Poli is Jolly tho so i had to make sure it's slower than Chandelure
@@Daniel-ty9ei is your poli 5x31?
Fought him twice now an dwhen i switch altar and poli he picks up chandelure
I just got the same.
@oBradda for me it seemed 1/3 of the time I could get the fight to a winnable state. Let me know If it's the same for you.
@@SHMlKE I continued without Chandelure until the 3 dogs were down then used a Revive, xSpAtk, xSpDef and swapped until Calm Mind got to +6, then continued as the video. I originally commented thinking once Chandelure was gone it was lost.
@@oBradda smart idea. Might have to use this next week
what about the Chandelure - Mantine stat?
The two reasons I recommend this strat over the mantine strat are that it's WAY faster and second, since the LNY event, it seems like Hooh is prioritizing the AoE that wipes stat bonuses so you would have to calm mind all the way back up again. Not sure if Mantine has a way to deal with that but it seems most strats that require chandelure to calm mind to +6 in phase two are very inconsistent now
@@JinxedBoon maybe ill try it
Any reason why the Hooh Sky Drops my Chandelure instead of Poliwrath during turn 2??? I have to revive and it's annoying.
I found with a very budget team, if entei came in first it would do that but would be fine with raikou or suicune first. I'm not really sure why though
im facing the same issue did u manage to defeat ho ho ? if yes could u tell me how
@@ItsKitas yep I beat him consistently now.
So, if Entei appears first, Hooh will attack and kill Chandelure. What you do is continue taking down all 3 dogs. Once they are all down, revive Chandelure and use calm mind until he is plus 6 - just stall with your other Pokémon while doing so.
@@dylanstotts9438 So i keep doing the strategy shown in the video with the ( shifts ) between Poli and Altaria until i kill the three dogs then i revive chandelure after 3 dogs and buff him right ?
I managed to do it when raikou showed up first :D
@@ItsKitas yep exactly. Good luck!
Nice vid :) thxs
Whats the cooldown for the Ho oh fight?
7 days per character
Are speed and Sp Attack irrelevant on Altaria?
Yup! Spatk doesn't hurt for the final phase but he is only attacking once or twice and just doing 3-6% anyways. Unless you are using it for something else, I'd just go as cheap as possible with it since it isn't dual purpose like chandelure and poli
@@JinxedBoon thx for the fast reply :D
well sadly he does ''Air Cutter'' last phase. Kills everyone one in 2 turns.
Did you do the belly drum going into phase 2?
@@JinxedBoon Start of the phase 2 I did belly drum but since he does air cutter there was not enough HP on Wrath therefore it fails. And boss keeps spamming air cutter till Altaria remains. I have the 3 pokemons exactly you said on video.
@Rivena3 you need to belly drum in the last turn of phase 1 on the same turn chandelure KOs phase 1 hooh. That way you will use belly drum before hooh chooses and attack in phase 2 and it'll choose to attack the low HP poli
@@JinxedBoon Yes, I did use puch there I guess. I will try again and let you know. Thanks for your time.
@@Rivena3 don't use punch there, use belly drum like I said in the video. You need to be belly drummed before hooh does an attack in phase 2
Team cost?
To make the proper team, just under $2m probably that is for the 5x31 for e4 runs to. Doing the budget ones is less consistent but probably $250k total or so
When you get a chance could you create a guide for e4 re running? I wanna build this team in your vid and use it for both but cant find the team comp that utilizes poliwrath.
Thanks
I should be working on it soon! I have a few streams that I do it in so you can check those out (although I'm really distracted by doing the stream so I make some mistakes!) Otherwise feel free to dm me on disc and I can send you the team! Should have a guide out at some point though!
Hey man, really appreciate your channel! I have an issue with this setup, i'm trying to follow your steps but after the first turn ( safeguard - belly drum - calm mind) ho - ho just sky drops my chandelure. Am i missing something?
Thanks dude! I found that if you are running a very budget version, when entei comes in as the first beast, for some reason it makes hooh go for chandelure. In my testing, it still worked with budget versions if raikou or suicune came first but you might just need slightly better ones or to keep trying until the different beast comes in!
@@JinxedBoon Yes, i realized that bad rng can ruin your run pretty quickly. i struggled a bit but after like 15 tries i finally made it :) . at first i had no idea what i was doing but now i think i nailed it, I coached a friend of mine and he made it first try! So thanks again for you help dude, really appreciate it
@leonardovaccaro2038 glad it worked! Just a heads up, if you decide to get non budget team, there is no rng! I run it 4 times per week perfectly smooth!
Anyway for anyone reading this my chandelure IV's are : 21/11/10/31/27/23 with modest nature. If you don't wanna risk it try gettin a better one
Woot woot killed ho oh 🎉
Let's goo! Did you figure out what was wrong with the chandelure grab?
@JinxedBoon not really, I have a 1/3 chance of just having the fight work perfectly which isn't too bad. But without entei starting everything went good... you weren't joking about high IV poke... got me to 1 hp and me getting him to 1hp multiple times. Every little bit helped lol 😆
When Ho oh starts with Entei he'll sky drop the chand rather than the poli. Too offset this I started with Alteria in the middle just in case to swap to chand since it dies to sky drop. Issue is that the Entei extreme speeds the poli and kills it. Thoughts on getting around this?
Also I swapped ice punch for waterfall since it'll one shot the Entei even if Raiku comes in before it.
What are the builds of your poli and chandelure?
@@JinxedBoon Same as yours except for the ice punch for waterfall. Ill have to test that next week but that could be the cause.
It cost me a lot (money and effort, but I managed it, after many attempts, XD........
Once you get the hang of it, it's super easy! I'm doing it on multiple alts weekly now and it's a breeze! But I made a ton of mistakes in my first few runs trying to learn it so just keep practicing!
items needed?
Nope, no items for this strat!