Should you be worried about exploding Lithium Ion batteries?
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Please be careful who you buy 18650 Lithium Ion cells from, as a lot of them are fake. The best way is to check the reviews, like on these 18650's amzn.to/30x6ZFH .
That guy's prices are beyond nuts. 18650 cells are about a dollar each in bulk, maybe 2-3 times that for small lots.
Yeah like I buy 18650s for 2-3 dollars...
Yesterday I made a short circuit by mistake with an 18650 battery taken out of a Lidl drill and it instantly caught fire in my hand, instinctively I threw it down but it had already caused a 5mm burn on my finger. These 18650 batteries are extremely dangerous, I never thought that from a short circuit a battery could catch fire in less than 1 second and become incandescent
That must have been either super cheap or overcharged or something... I sometimes short circuit batteries by accident (or on purpose, for testing) and I've never had a battery catch fire.
I've highly abused a hoverboard battery pack that I'd taken the casing off of, so it was just bare metal terminals and the BMS. I poured saltwater on it, threw it on concrete, and submerged it in snow. Just a bit of smoke was released, which was suprising. I'm not sure what brand cells they were was, but the cells were gray
GGGGGREAT !! ONE MORE THING TO WORRY ABOUT !! Do I dare to go near my flashlight ..... or chuck it in the yard , and Run for cover.
This video has reassured me greatly thank you. I recently bought 2 packs of Panasonic Lithium Batteries for each of my 2 sets of fairy lights and I was worried about how safe the Lithium Batteries are.
No mention of the iPhones bursting into flames, which was before the 3 items you listed, i take it you're Apple fan-boys there!
But miliamps is current! Capacity is miliamper HOURS!
News companies tend to commonly make that mistake.
I will not purchase cheap off-brand rechargeable products after watching this video, thank you ARIES RC for the important helpful information !!! 👍✌💙💜💋
We had a very recent incident in Manila. A guy lost all his front teeth, face swollen when his smokers' vape Lithium ion battery exploded.
his pearly white smile went up in smoke
Eric Renrut - 😉
lol I got that "Battery LG Explosion Advertisement" on this video...
So this is basically a PANASONIC COMMERCIAL
indeed... panasonic batteries doesnt fit the requirements for high drain usage
Should I be worried? Don't know. Am I? Damn Skippy!
actually, I have seen many reputable lipo batteries overheat and self ignite, the reason ceramic bowls sell so well for battery charging of lipos is self explanetory
Depends on the chemistry. The LiFePO4 batteries seem to be pretty much inert, even if you torch them. LiCO and LiPO are the mainstream batteries, but they are very dangerous. Even Tesla cars can burst into flames, because they use that chemistry.
Incase anyone wants genuine battery’s go to fogstar. All the 18650’s and 20700’s i have purchased from them have been + or - a couple of mah
Just make sure you know what amps your application needs cus if you go under it can be dangerous and over should be perfectly fine.
For example 2x 3400 mah at 6.2amps will not run anything that needs over 12.4 amps for longer than a few seconds every couple of minutes. However if you step down to 2500mah at 20 amps a cell thats 40 amps and so if it uses less your safe.
Also for vaping just keep a battery pack handy and charge when not using should not take over two hours for a full charge and so just keep topping it up this will also increase the cells life time as part cycles put much less straing on the cells as they will be putting out a neer constant amperage regardless of its voltage damaging the cells faster than using it from 100% to lets say 60% and charging again leave cells at 40-50% for storage and 20%-30% for shipping to reduce total energy so in case of damage the cells will do less damage
What's with the dislike ratio? Everything the video says is true. Shopping for genuine batteries online is a huge problem. Fake 186500 owners are mad because their batteries got bashed?
not everything thats cheap is bad. not everything that is bad is fake. not everything from panasonic is good.
The ones I don't trust are those 18650s that have something like 9800 mAh on their labels. Usually those ones appear to be a generic or much lesser known brand. Ultrafire comes to mind with all the blatantly false capacities. Then there are some of those that just have a smaller battery inside them a powdery filler which might be sand. While those ones might work for some things they won't last as long as you might expect them to. Then they may even be so badly made inside that they are not even safe. The way I see it 18650 and other lithium ion cells can be safe if you use some common sense and use a good charger and also not overly discharge or short them out. These cells WILL get dangerously hot and even explode or vent if you mistreat them. I remember once I was at a Walmart store and some guy had batteries in his pocket with his keys. They looked like they might be AA or some other size alkaline battery but these things caught his pants on fire and were glowing red on the ground. I do not know the whole story behind that but it is a safe bet that he has gone to the burn unit very soon after that. NO batteries should be kept in your pocket in such a way. Even loose change or any other metal object near a battery can cause a very similar problem. I do not know that guy or anything about him but I hope he is OK and has learned his lesson and won't do that ever again. Think about it, what if the batteries blew up and harmed someone nearby? They would sue him. I most certainly would have sued him if his stupidity caused injury to me with those batteries. There are a number of ways an exploding battery could cause permanent injury. Blindness is one of them.
I avoid Ultrafire and similar cheap cells. I have a flashlight that I use these in. I do not vape or smoke. The unsafe ones will often have a very unrealistic capacity on the wrapper. Even if they don't end up being unsafe you are cheated by the ones with sand in them because you don't get the capacity you would realistically expect
Just.. don't buy batteries from a brand that has "fire" in the name. Even more so if it's "Ultrafire" lol
4:55 Great Scott
Actually, the problem is very strange, and happens when the cells become overcharged. Say you have 4 cells in series, if all cells are the same, it is good. But say one cell becomes bad, it may stop holding a charge, so when it is charged, its voltage rises quickly, this causes the voltage to go over 4.2 volts, which causes explosion. This can also happen when cells are in parallel, because the bad cell is charged by the good cell.
i must be lucky in that area ,, i use whatever is available and never had a problem due to the fact that i take the precautions very serious ,,
Lithium batteries arnt inherently dangerous just very VERY temperamental, always be careful with cheap ones though, with all really.
I guess dead laptops battery r safer
Hello all I'm a U.K. truck driver and I've now had TWO trucknavs go up in flames (ok same make same model similar age) but big and I mean BIG flames came shooting out of both of them.
Did I just watch an infomercial?
for a famous brand ? mmm... I don't know...
Sand in battery is a good thing. Means it won't catch fire.
They’re practically manufacturing bombs as Lithium Ion batteries explode when they go faulty due to thermal runaway.
But you could still make them explode if you wanted to, right?
What 18650 Costs 7dollars
U Can get some of samsung's 18650 for 2.5eur
Lol those are fakes
For reference there is no such thing as a TESLA cell, they buy and rebrand panasonic and more recently samsung 18650 cells for their battery banks fpr EVs.
Thanks for this video. I almost made the mistake of buying cheap, fake lithium batteries.
liar liar, pants on fire lol
I had some of those magic 9900mah batteries and can confirm they are dangerous!
I don't understand why using thick gauge wires to wire batteries would be a problem. To my understanding the bigger the wire gauge is the less resistance it'll have. Could someone explain it to me?
Wire which are just thick enough to carru the batteries rated current are ideal cause in case of short circuit the wires themselves act like a fuse
look closely at 1:39 it's not mentioned as "thick gauge", but "high gauge". in terms of cables, lower the awg number mean thicker cable core. Example: 18 AWG is lot more thicker than 26 AWG.
Just to point out, even a genuine name brand cell will not cost them $7, probably like 50¢
Then how do you explain my Tesla model x turned into a fire work, it was just parked in front of my house, not charging not a hot day too, that thing just start to burn after a 10 mins drive. But you got the point very clear, anything that is too good to be true, that is possibly fake.
Nice review, thanks. Are Li ion batts safer than LiPos, about which there are lots of horror videos?
Sponsored by Panasonic
it does make sense.
Dreamluners uses genuine Lio batteries yet it fired so how you argue about the quality or technology ?
I once used a bunch of those "high capacity" 6000mah battery cells in an E-Bike battery pack...they don't even come close.
18650 6000mah doesnt exist.
Well hot dog! Panasonic just rules....
There is a extremely small amount (if any) of electrolyte liquid in lithium ion battery's.
lol my qireless earbuds just caught on fire when i was wering them, thermal runway type shit
With the cheap ones 18650 cells rated at 9800mah another black cell at 5000mah when testing these as i was buying flashlight batteries on ebay they only put 1000mah capacity so don't trust ebay
edmond ugljesa - probably the guy printed the label does not know the difference between 5 and 1. I also don't know what these chacracters mean 那又怎样?😂
@@nordic9570 lmao 😂
Nice AD by Panasonic
i left a battery on my bed and forgot about it and then after a day or 2 it exploded this black powder out of it and made a mess on my wall
Too much about Panasonic for my liking.
I just got some fake Panasonic 3400mAh batteries. They are real batteries but only put out 1500mAh. Whoever did this I think relabeled batteries meant for cameras and radios with fake Panasonic labels. The inexpensive Chinese made EBL branded flashlight batteries are better than that, they put out around 2100mAh.
Your conclusions are weird
1. the main issue seems to be improperly designed circuits/wiring
2. most people who buy these products expect them not to explode
3. the main causes of the explosions are because of the lit ion battery (regardless of how it is assembled), the kind of battery is what causes the final result
Now since people can't be expected to take apart everything they buy and inspect the wiring, they should be weary of buying things that use lit ion batteries.
My battery touched aluminum foil and caused a spark. Should I quit using my battery in my vape and dispose of it?
Nah its fine
PLEASE LISTEN! Do NOT unwrap the plastic off your vape batteries! I DID and BOOM! BOMB IN MY FACE! HURT MYSELF BAD!!!
You used the battery without the plastic? Or you did rewrap it?
Mine wasn’t unwrapped, short circuited when I took a hit, started making a hissing noise and I moved my face just in time for the top of the vape and the burning battery to go ricochet off a couple walls and then land and start a fire on my bed, I knocked it off onto the floor and ran to get water. Luckily got it put out before it could try to burn our whole San Francisco condo down. Landlord was pissed when I moved out and finally had to show him the burn marks left on the carpet a couple years later
Today i just disasembled a vape that i found in the streets just for the battery i was looking at the battery in my hand and saw that the battery had very bad manufacturing quality i also saw that the negative terminal had a fake ground wire, i was looking at the battery when one of the wires decided to self combust in my hands luckily the cell itself didnt combust it was like the crappy terminal that conected it to the actual cells with no protecction at all it was wrapped in electrical tape (btw my first instinct was to throw it to the wall the whole ground wire burned and in fear of anything more happening i disposed off the battery, also my hands smell sweet after the battery combusted on my hands even after washing 2 times my hand, luckily i didn't even get burnt or blind, my hands are still shaking like wtf)
I want to know is danger or not?
yea about 10% of the advertised rating
Even tesla batteries burst into flames. And also samsung smart phones
is there a change for my legit samsung 40t (21700) to overheat or explode in my flash light. the CDR fits the flaslight
ordered from NKON if that helps
You should be ok, the 40t has a high discharge rate so I don’t think it’ll overheat. I tested nkon batteries in the past and they are genuine.
You know that Great Scott used fake Lipo Batterys right?
im the battery and can confirm yes i am fake
Please for the love of god don’t use lithium ion cells unless you have a product meant specifically for them
I've been using li ion and lipo cells for along time in diy projects
No explosions so far
I ordered some ncr18650b from ali slowpress and now I'm scared.
Try to measure the weight and internal resistance of cells if you can
RC vehicles cars/boats/planes don't use lithium ion batteries. They use lithium polymer batteries, aka Li-Po. They can withstand much much higher discharge rates then Li-Ion batteries.
yup, but those rates withstand only quality ones. and LiPo's are damn unsafe, lots of fire, etc -- and it can happen (less often but really, it can) like out of nowhere. even in normal conditions
No they are not, sorry, NO THEY ARE NOT. Liquid fuels are the most dangerous fuels you can get.
You've bought up some other points that have nothing to do with your original point which is what I was specifically responding to and shall continue with. Yes liquid fuels require oxygen, and there is plenty of that around thankfully (science). When one does have a crash with a tank of liquid fuel, say petrol, the tank can rupture, the liquid run out all over the occupants, on the floor and generally splash about a bit. The nature of an internal combustion engine being what it is there are lots of hot objects about that the petrol can get to and given that petrol has a very low flash point (some science for you there too), chances of fire are very very high. The joy of a liquid fuel of course is it runs under gravity and so will spread around as it is alight, which is fun if you are unlucky enough to be trapped in a car, so I am confident in saying it is not a 'safe' fuel. What makes it a 'safe' fuel is how designers and engineers go about building in safety into the systems that store and control the flow of the liquid, for example using plastic fuel tanks that are much more durable than their steel counterparts and also the use of computers to detect crashes and stop lifter pumps and fuel injection systems dead in their track the instant a crash occurs. So if we apply the same concept of designing safety into the energy storage system application for a car using LIPO than we can say with a high degree of certainty that batteries are much safer because they don't run around and instantly combust in the presence of oxygen. Now I appreciate you have some hang ups with the way electric vehicles are funded and this means you may be looking for any reason, regardless of how spurious, to support you argument but LIPO batteries are used in everything these days, and whilst you do here the odd, and I will stress this, the odd story of a battery exploding it does not happen at anywhere near the level you're inferring.
Interesting video, maybe we will see new batteries in the future, maybe we wont. With any technology, if you use it for what its not designed for it will run into trouble. That's the major point I've been working on here, everything has limitation and working within these keeps us safe from danger. We also need to keep are comparisons, apples for apples, or else run the risk of missing the point in hand.
@@WindyJAMiller you missed the point...they misrepresent capacity and build unsafe batteries so no if you use those for what they're designed for they will NOT work.
The audio is poor so I can't enjoy this video. Sorry. There is a constant white noise.... Yes, it's in this video, not in my setup :D
Does anybody here know of Chi, It has points in the body of greater strengths, Are these phones wireless charging or are the phone covers aluminium, our bodys give off Fields..
as long its not a low quality china battery you shouldnt worry
all batteries are manufactured in china. just dont be an idiot and dont try to save money on your batteries, that s all.
need volume!!
Turn it up ya wombat
Audio level.
All good until it vents. Once it vents you will pay with your life. Hydroufloric acid yum yum good luck. I don't use 18650 🤑. I only use eneloops.
Look up Battery Mooch, and follow his recommendations. Lion Wholesale is one of them, and are guaranteed genuine.
mil-ee'-amp accent on the "ee", 3 syllables
relax professor, he has a accent to his speech probably different from yours.
5:17 Thats a fake battery!!!!
Ohms is every thing
Panasonic makes Tesla Batteries..
You recharged a 0V Lion cell? Not trying to call you a liar here but...
yeah elon musk invented new kind of li ion batteries obviously xD
this video is a lie.
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Sounds like you don't know what you're talking about I have a mod with two 3000mah batteries... vape pretty much all day long with extra battery life at the end of the day.
LG HG2? Fantastic 18650s, if you’re not using them for a mech mod with really low resistance builds. They’re perfect for regulated mods.
Anonymous what about liitokaala? Seems like the only serious seller/manufacturer on AliExpress, they have one 3400 mah cell and one hg2 with high amperage like 20a, but 3000 mah for around 2.5 dollars a cell I think?
@@MarioGoatse Yes, that's the ones. I have some Samsungs now too same mah.
Damn people, most (if not all) of the batteries we buy are Chinese lol. The general guide is to buy from reputable sources (basically, don't buy from the cheapest seller, check the reviews). If you're a vaper, you can use the Panasonics mentioned, the Samsung 25Rs, or the LG HG2s! REMEMBER! Don't listen to people on the net, CHECK THE DATASHEETS!!!!
Chinese *made
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They are dangerous no matter what if one battery in a pack fails regardless of the reason the entire pack will blow