The Artificers (1974)
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Official govt film uploaded as fair use.
'The Artificers' is a recruitment film produced for the Royal Navy by the Central Office of Information. Features footage of artificer apprentices at HMS Fisgard and outward bound training.
Followed by footage of marine engineering artificer training at HMS Caledonia and aboard HMS Amazon (a newly built Type 21 frigate at this time).
Followed by footage of air engineering training at HMS Daedalus with decriptions of 3 types of air artificer and extensive footage of the Lee-on-Solent Search and Rescue flight.
Followed by footage of electrical and weapons engineering training at HMS Collingwood, some tricky problem solving aboard a nuclear submarine, followed by firing the ASW mortar on HMS Argonaut (Leander-class frigate).
Good rate of pay?? £2 a fortnight when I was there.
Thanks David for uploading this. Some memories, here. The film did not mention the subset of the REA that I was, probably for security reasons, but nevertheless generally described our work. I left in 1975 as REA1, and went on to design and invent for the MOD and for the commercial industry. In no way could I have achieved my designs, innovations and inventions in electronics without the training and education that I received as a Royal Navy Artificer at HMS Fisgard and and HMS Collingwood.
An embarrassing appearance offering two HUGE spanners to a Chief with an open main gearbox - they cut out my comments to the camera man who assisted me up the gearbox casing while grasping my arse! (around 4 minute mark)
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Don’t worry that’s nowt it wasn’t a real gearbox. Did you not notice the Wafu bod knocking holes in the helicopter skin? 😂
@@normanboyes4983 Simulating battle damage for them to repair, perhaps?
By the way before i joined in 59 I could not spell Artifiersur; now I is one. Remember the OAs and Chippies
Ahh good old days, I my self was an electronic artificer and did served on board ship leander class ship.
I joined up 8th May 1950 (age 15) as a boy apprentice at Fisgard. Left the Andrew in 1965 as a Chief OA (Weapon Control) after giving post-graduate training to young Officers. Miss the life, even now.
Some of this film was made aboard HMS Apollo in 1973. I was an ERA 1 on board at the time. The two "artificers" shown leaning over the after end of the stbd gear casing are actually mechanicians!, They are Roy Corner (RIP) and Dave Fraser.... my old mess-mates. It was a happy ship with a great engineroom department, led by Lt Cdr Ricky Rolls, who was a great boss.
Did the RN crews ever send sailors new to the boat on a special mission to find a certain something that was impossible to find? For example.. go get me a padeye wrench, bulkhead remover, light bulb repair kit or a hundred foot of gig line?
Look at us now! The defence secretary waved his puny fist and threatened to send a carrier to The Pacific. Did he forget we only have one ship and naff all aircraft? Lets just give up, we are never going to have the fleet of 1982
I was an Electronics Apprentice with the Australian Navy. In the late 80's and early 90's I was a maintainer working on the plotting table and the radar displays shown in the opening scenes. The old JYA plotting tables and JUA displays were still in use on HMAS Torrens. Great units to learn logical fault finding on. The training we received set me up for my entire career.
793 Spike Div AEA/A + Med Dipback (Cardinham Knee after the Rude Awakening!) in the film they said time for fun??
Excellent video! I would be a US Navy artificer, naval aviation, also known as an "airdale". We were called technical maintenance personnel. We had Technical Training centers. I worked on aviation fire control systems on an aircraft carrier. The electronic components and connectors shown are similar with those associated with the systems I did maintenance on at the same time. Those on the flight deck had colored jerseys according to task. Our Chief Petty Officers "CPOs" wore khaki uniforms.
Outstanding film!!
this cant b 1974 cus I was on argo and in 74 we were on deployment to the far east I don't remember any films then about tiffs
I am a Naval Aviation Radio Artificer. Proud to be an Artificer. Hi, to all Partners.
I'm an ex US Navy aircraft structural mechanic. Loved the video. I was in at the time it was made. I'm 70 and I still work on aircraft, but for the Coast Guard.
@@redr1150r Love you dear Ellef. So proud of you.
I work with a lot of electricians and electronics technicians. They are a very smart bunch of people.
Saluting Artificers. An Indian Navy Veteran Artificer. Mumbai 👍 Jay Hind 🙏
Good rate of pay? I joined Fisguard 7/1/77, (771), and was on £26/fortnight and used to send £10 of that home on an allotment, was it called? Remember having to go up to the drill shed with your pay book to get payed? Waiting for your name to be called and then marching up to the desk, saluting while reciting the last 3 of your official number, (908N, in my case,) and holding out your pay book to receive your dosh.
Loved the shots of Fisguard, although I hated the workshops at the time! I often cycle around what's left when I'm down there on holiday. The old huts of "Tribe Div", where I joined, are still there, fenced off from the industrial estate bit, seemingly unused and looking just as I remember them. I'd love to get in and have a wander around. Maybe I'll ask next time I'm down there. Not sure what that is now. LG.
Fantastic thing to have done with your life though. An achievement and tough as it would have been at the time you would have been years ahead of people from school in growing up.
You were lucky ! I was 693 entry and it was £5 a fortnight. You were ‘rich’ because you joined after the introduction of what they called the ‘military salary’.
@@normanboyes4983 Five pound a fortnight if you were over 17 and a half if I remember rightly, and 3 pound a fortnight if you weren't. Average national weekly wage at the time was 10 pounds a week, so we were very poorly paid. I understand the pay was deliberately set low to keep us away from the things that attract young men, beer, women, motorbikes and cars. If you got involved too much with any of those, you would have less time and inclination to study. It was probably a good idea but I hated it at the time.
The Army has them too.
S49 here, 1963. I have an HNC, day release, and a science degree after I left, and the apprenticeship has been BY FAR the most useful training. I'm 76, and still use the expertise gained
African governments need to implement such skills to the youth of her nations to propell africa forward.
As a tiffy in 741 entry, this sure brought back some memories. 1 term of file flat and square!
And overall sleeves cut short!
HMS Amazon still fitting out there. Transferred to Pakistan in 1993, decommissioned in 2014. I have an Airfix model of her that I got from the gift shop at the Fleet Air Arm museum in Yeovilton. I thought she was a very beautiful ship.
731 Shepherd. Then FAA Pinky. 22 years of playing with aircraft, seeing the world and doing things not possible in any other job. Pay could have been better, but never starved. Saw some familiar faces from long ago. Recently retired from military aircraft industry, so yes, set me up for life. Pity Fisgard closed - bean counters are the worst enemy the forces have to fight.
RAN. MOBI trining, Fitting, Machining, Welding, Electrical, 5"", 4.5", Bofors, Gun Direction, Mk10 Mortar. First ship, DDG, HMAS Hobart.
Spent the next 3 years looking after a 100 line Strowger Switch Telephone System. Oh, and scratching paint of the sound powered telephone connection boxes on the upper deck. Dib Dabs would take of the cover and give them, Primer, Under, and 2 top coats., then replace the cover. Only bloody thing they ever did paint properly.
This virtually mirrors the Army Apprentice College I went to in Arborfield. Except our Tiffies were selected after 6-8 yrs experience in the Corps then attended an 18month course to become Tiffies.
My father in law was MEO when that HMS Amazon segment was shot.
Ex REA 1 Agincourt and Rothesay. Civvy 1973. Set me up for life.
Type 21...hull of steel and superstructure of aluminium :S HMS Ardent and HMS Antelope RIP
Rob Price 721 entry ... Brill thanks .. So sad that both Fisgard and Calidonia have gone.
I am sure I saw Marty Metcalf in there .. 721 / 722
Anybody remember chipping a steel block in a caged bench area. With a hammer and chisel
Good luck to you all pals ...
Wow, don't we all look young? I even had dark hair then - Bob Turk (REA).
hi, good memories back in 1974, my intake 742Q, my sea time on board HMS Plymouth, he 3
17.58 is a think a very young Dick Strange. Served with him at FOSM. Full 5s for the OOW on the fin!
I am artificer
Tiffy in 753Q Frew division sure brought memories flooding back!
6:47 What's the chances George Lucas saw that and thought it looked good?
Tiffs ! known to be able to work out the square root of the inside volume of a matchbox. Most of em cannot strike a light tho !
You must be a mechanician :-)
And of course Nursey is there to hold the injured seamans hand!!!!
Chief ! any chance you can show me how to sketch and describe a gaiter, i'm up for my fleetboard
Here's from another 783, fond memories to some of the best years. REAs rule!
Takes me back! 711 Frew 6mess - Benbow at Cally.
The first Artificer in Metals...
Ever since the Falklands War I've being a fan of the R.N., The ship designs are different from US Navy warships. I was 14 when I used to draw Royal Navy Frigates on my notebooks and when one of their ships visited our ports I would be in line to go see it. I remember going to see the HMS Penelope in the 80's.
My dad did 21 years in the RN, LSBA 2 shipboard postings on Loch Class and Leander Class Frigates, and 2 years in Malaya with 40 Commando Royal Marines. He loved it. I used to go onboard as a little fella when they had a family day in port, can still remember being told not to run and jump through the hatchways or knee knockers, if you jump you bash your head and run you crack your knees if you hit the bottom lip of the hatch coaming.
My pops is in this film
Sorry if this is a numpty question but what is the aircraft at 06.50?
First thought is a Hunter. Now OK Hunters did serve with the Fleet Air Arm and some had arrestor hooks, but folding wings???
I thought it might be my mind filling in a central tailplane and that the wings might be hiding double booms so it could be a Vampire or Venom. The jet inlets are too narrow and the landing gear is outboard of the wheels. No tip tanks as per Venom.as well.
If by chance it is Hunter and they did some with folding wings, then what for a better term is the boss device on the tail as per a Buccaneer?
Looks like a Hawker Sea Hawk en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Sea_Hawk
@@kiergsmith Definitely a Sea Hawk. There is a Sea Vixen in the background at the hanger door.
Where do I sign...
Why have I just discovered this channel?
These are the films I watched as a Sea Cadet in the 70s They made my mind up to join. I was a tiff.
6-06. I thought it was clean or a full-set? How come the sideburns?
+George Buller It was the 70's
In line with the lower level of the ear lobe was acceptable.
I m a artificer.
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