Char-Griller Gravity Fed 980 And Why This Mod Changes Everything | THIS IS A GAMECHANGER | LSS MODS
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
- Char-Griller Gravity Fed 980 is one of the best pits you can purchase for under 1,000 USD. The problem is, I always felt it was not the best. I gave that nod to the Masterbuilt Gravity Fed 1050/800 In my honest head-to-head review. The reason was simple. The Masterbuilt out smoked it because of a Char-Griller design flaw! Now, I show you why doing this mod to your char-griller changes everything!!! This is a GAMECHANGER! This now pits the 980/head to head/with the Masterbuilt!
See why!!!
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GREAT VIDEO!!!...I purchased the mod as soon as it went on sale...I even held off assembly of my 980 until I received the mod. Its better to have and not need...then to need and not have. Kudos to Luke!!!
Eric. Agreed. This mod is a gamechanger for this pi!
I just bought the 980 and I’m glad I saw your video. I just ordered this modification. Thanks for another great video!
Shawn, Thanks buddy. Your going to love that pit and Mod! Cheers man!
Awesome demo! Thanks for giving us a step by step process of puting this together!!
My pleasure!
Thanks for the video, Tommy. I'm planning to pick up a 980 once it starts to warm up this spring so I'll definitely get this to go with it (along with the LSS expanded upper grate). Really appreciate you keeping things current with the latest mods.
I'm contemplating picking up one of these mods for mine, although I haven't had any issues with my 980 yet, but it can't hurt. For the record, you are going to LOVE your 980 when you get it.
GREAT INFO FOR THOSE CHAR-GRILLER OWNERS , KEEP THE TIPS COMING TOMMY
Thanks 👍
Thanks for the mod review, Tommy. Luke comes through again. He certainly does fantastic work!
No problem 👍 This one is a top notch gamechanger!
Fantastic! This is a much needed mod for my 980. Going to order one now from Luke. Thanks for the video Tommy!
Eric. Its a gamechaging Mod.
@@thegalleryBBQ Talk about fast shipping! An hour after watching your video Tommy and ordering the mod, I received an email from FedEx stating the order has shipped. Char-griller I should say also honored the warranty and is mailing me a new silicone fan flap.
Definitely a must needed mod, will save yourself some future issues! Thanks for sharing Tommy! Have a great one brother, you all stay safe!👍👊🍻🍺
Thanks 👍
Tommy, a game changer indeed!!!! I refused to buy that 980 until this mod….now I’ll see what updates are in the 980 this year and will be getting one for sure!
Robert. For this pit its a gamechanger!
Luke is awesome, always gets back with you right away, and the items I've bought from him are top quality, love all my mods on my 1050, thanks Luke
Couldn't agree more!
Good point about the back draft during windy conditions. Threw some chicken wings on last weekend. 25 mph gusts was all that was needed to blow embers into the fan box. The plastic blades melted to the shroud lol. Money is tight so I made the mod myself. Doesn't have the extended baffle, but still moves the fan/flapper back 2" like the MB.👍
Great mod Tommy. That unit Luke makes looks very well built. Thanks for sharing brother! Cheers buddy!
No problem 👍
Great idea! I'm always worried that flap is gonna burn up or that i'll get charcoal down into the fan area :)
I just got mine and setting it up today!! Thanks man
Enjoy!
Great video my flap burned up and my smoker is getting hott not staying at temperature, I just purchased this mod along with a new flap hopefully it doesn’t burn up again. Thanks for making this video.
Thanks.
Got quite a few mods from lss for my masterbuilt 560. He does great work.
Gene. TOP NOTCH for sure-
LSS makes some great stuff. Got a couple mods on my MB560, curious to see what MB has up their sleeves for future generations given the competition that the 980 provides
Ive been trying to pry that info from them. So far. No news!
This is awesome Tommy I need to share your video to my brother he has that problem with the his pit thank you for sharing your wisdom
1000000%.... This Mods a gamechanger .
@@thegalleryBBQ 👍👍👍 THKS TOMMY
Just set up my mod after burning my flap. Great video!
Enjoy!
I just purchased this mod and the extender for the upper grate from Luke. I have not had any problems with the flap ❤️🔥 up yet.
This mods a game changer IMHO!
Great video, thank you!!!! Great information.
Our pleasure!
Very interesting Tommy. Stay safe & take care of you all. Thanks for sharing eh:))
Cheers. I do plan on going live the 20th so hope to see you there.
I hope to be flying that day & won't have internet for a bit - bummer@@thegalleryBBQ
I see it . As a future owner user Thank You . Appreciate your time
Glad to help
That makes such great sense. Cool mod👍
this ones the one!
The FFM to the rescue.
Quoting DeCaprio from the Scorsese classic "The Aviator": "It's all in the engineering."
Very informative.
All the best.
JT
My man...... Quoting Denzel! lol
man i've been having so many issues with the fan stopping due to ash getting in the fan, thank god!
This is the Mod for you! GAMECHANGER!
looks well made, he did a great job ..
Good stuff.
Great video and mod. Ill be purchasing one.
Cheers brother. Trust me. You won't regret it!
Thanks. I will eventually buy this mod. My current problem is that the door button on the hooper is not operating properly. I will address the problem first.
Glad I could help. Once ready. You'll love what this Mod brings to the table.
Luke to the rescue again. I've installed several of his mods on my Masterbuilt 1050. He has turned these companies short comings into a nice business.
He is the man.
My flap isn't burnt but last cook I could not keep the 980 under 350 degrees after I did a 450 degree cook. I closed the fan lid and tied some butcher twine on the latch to have a tiny air gap to try to maintain temps. Only problem I ever had. The flap looks a little misshaped though. Cheers
Haha. I do love this mod.
LSS mods are where it's at! I'm curious if Chargriller will make a model update for 2022?
I don't think for 2022 but am not 100% sure-
They won't. Bc the unit is still selling good. No motivation
@@SammyChon Agreed, Maybe a smaller unit?
@@SammyChon probably less likely now that masterbuilt and Chargriller are owned by the same company... No problem supporting LSS mods, then!
That's a good mod for the Char-Griller, we need to give Weber some new mods, maybe the company will take notice and make some changes.
Will, good point. If had my smokefire i'd have Luke make me up something to control that grease. Cheers
You mentioned that windy conditions can cause a back draft into the fan itself and cause damage. This happened to me last night; the fan burned and is now not functional. I've already submitted a warranty claim but are there any solutions for preventing that kind of thing from happening?
That blows. You know I'm not too sure-. I smoke in my shake so im blocked from the wind. LMK how your customer experience goes.
Tommy good information on this video,,, don't the people who make these pits try them out first ?? Thank you Frank from montana....
Frank. I called this out last September and garnered lots of heat! Cheers man and thanks for watching.
Good foresight on your part back in September...Luke's mods are the real deal, and I cannot get enuf of them when it comes to my Masterbuilt 1050. Thanks for another terrific video brother!!
I always tell it like it is. I grabbed a tad heat from some viewers and probably pissed off char griller. Thats said. Honesty is the only way i roll.
i too installed the mod and the second shelf ext from the same guy, i suggest also replacing the flap when you do the mod. replacement flap is maybe 3 times thicker than original. me thinks char grill discovered something
Thanks Gary for that tip. Enjoy!
As a person that does a lot of plumbing and watching a lot of RUclips I combined something from work and something I saw on mad scientist BBQ channel. I got one of the very first 980's that came out and my flap burnt off on the first cook after seasoning it in so got a replacement and that also burn right off so I have some flame proof cloth good to 1000 degrees for sweating copper pipes so I cut a piece of it out and then put some small screws in the bottom as weights to make it fall back into place when the fan turns off. So no problem with it burning but was still having problems keeping it at the temperature I wanted without it going way to hot so I saw on mad scientist BBQ channel that he has ball valves on his offset smokers and he regulates his air by opening and closing the valve so I mounted a 3/4" ball valve on the bottom my the fan access door. I just leave it wide open to cook the fan still runs just fine when it needs to you can feel the air getting sucked up when the fan is on and hasn't gone over more than 10 degrees since I have modified it probably 30 cooks ago and I can go from 250 to baking something at 400 in less than 5 minutes at it will hold there all day and the other great benefit is slide the divider in close the ball valve down and I can save my fuel in the hopper because all the air is instantly gone
Scott. Thanks for that awesome post!
Hey Tommy, Great video great mod that flap fire was definitely a dealbreaker you got to be able to add wood so like you said this is definitely a game changer I still prefer the master build even know the 980 might be slightly better and just the same way I prefer my Silverado over your F150 even though the F150 is slightly better🙂🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍
Thanks 👍John. Ill test this out soon. Stay tuned.
i just replaced my fan but am still getting a erf error, any idea what may be going on?
No, sorry.
I actually had a 980 on order and canceled it because of this very thing. I ordered a old country gravity and a thermoworks with billows. I just didn't have much faith in the control for the 980 as far as longevity ether. But I'd choose the 980 over the masterbuilt. IMO.
Thanks bud. That old country will 100% treat you right!
Has anyone find a mod or figure our a way to make the right side of the smoker run cooler? My right side is running about 60-80+ degrees hotter
What's your preference overall now that you have had some time to use them between the masterbuilt and the chargriller
I need more time. That said. Check out my latest Char Rib cook;)....
I’m no attorney but Luke should probably patent that mod. I’m sure happy with mine!
Agreed!
Just for peace of mind it's a must
1000000%......
So, if you make the essential mods to the CG980 and the MB800 (or 1050), without regard to price, which is better? I look forward to your reply. I also note that MB offers the griddle, rotisserie, and pizza oven, and I don’t think CG offers similar accessories. Do those impact your opinion? Great job Tommy, you’re a cool dude!
PS Why do you think CG didn’t design the fan on the other side of the box? Direction of the air? As is, it’s a sore thumb!
I'd go Masterbuilt all day everyday!
That's a cool mod and makes a lot of sense. I'm curious, what's Char Griller's warranty/customer service like with regards to replacing the flap if it burns up? 😎🔥🍻
Excelent customer service because they know its a problem.
They’re service is great! Just put in a claim (easy) and attach a photo and they’ll send one right out to you.
My flap burned up too and their CS was very helpful. Sent them a pic and they sent a new flap. What I did at the time, since they were b/o'd on the flap, was order a fire-resistant sheet of silicone from Amazon and cut my own flap. It is a little thicker than the factory flap and seems more robust than the original but it still allows air to freely move across it into the burn chamber. So far it hasn't burned up and my 980 is working great.
@@halfscot what was the product you ordered on Amazon?
I've tried putting wood in the ash pan and then in with the charcoal then both. Never noticed a difference on where you put it, only the amount of wood. So I only mix it with the charcoal and still have the original flap. Modify if you want but I still don't see it being a "design flaw" as it works fine if you use it as intended. I think the only reason people melt their flap is that they use way too much wood under there and create an actual little fire.
Oh it's a flaw.... Enjoy!
Where can I order this mod, I haven’t even had my 980 1 year and my fan melted
Check the description.
Which direction does the fan air flow go?
Towerd the fuel
So did you remove the flap all together after installing the mod??
No. You need the flap to control the twmp. Without it the pit would just run hot. What this mod does is saves the flap from burning up and it now allows you to add wood chuncks down below.
way to go Luke...that product is solution based....just like hot tommies...oh and nice hand rachet godfather....lol
My man...
Hey Tommy, it's me, Marcel from Yuma, Az. I'm going to be getting another cooker, it's gonna be : either> a Char-griller Vert. Charcoal grill, > OR: some kind of a Wood Pellet Grill. The wood pellet grills (most of them) don't have enough "vertical room" ie: for doing BEER CAN C-kins! I'm going to get one of these, or the other, I want to know what you think, because "YOU" , my man are the very 1st one to show me "Anything" about these type of grills (vert.C-coal). Please get back to me. Thanks Marcel , in Yuma
29... The 980 or the 1050 or the 800. Anyone of those 3, you win!! Id look at price in your area for deals. The best price. Grab it!!!!! Any other qestions gallerybbq@gmail.com
Nice option.. but why not just replace the flap with a more heat proof material? On the MBs, as the air slide is in front of fan, I've seen a simple mod where they take another slide and drill a bunch of holes in it to run inserted.
Im not sure what that material would be! This here works perfect!
The newer ones have a flap that's the same material but about twice as thick as the original version. Hopefully it's more resilient.
The material would be stainless steel instead of rubber exposed to an open flame
How can I get the mod.? Cost.? Like to get the mod.
www.lss-mods.com/product_details.phtml/980_duct_extension
I don’t understand how you could ever burn up the fan flap if you empty the ash pan every cook
Hi Chris. It's in the position of the flap!! This is a known design flaw when adding too many wood chunks to the ash bin!!
Good video, Luke makes great stuff. I modded my MB 1050 and it helped a lot! Now to rewire that thing, and it'll be perfect LOL
This is good stuff for sure-
Is the flap needed
It is 100% need as it controls the temp!
@@thegalleryBBQ Thank you!
Wawo Amazing nice mashallah
My man... Cheers and thanks for watching.
Tommie add me Im a patron Henry Lewis Jr. 22 years service. Thank You Sir. Also another fantastic video as usual. I've been a fan of your channel for well over 2 years now. I'm the guy that told you a few years back that Bass Pro Shop had the Masterbuilt 1080 when they were impossible to get at the time.
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Don't forget to Mod your Mod right here ruclips.net/video/bH6xczdEdDs/видео.html
I keep holding off on my purchase... Cannot decide. Waiting for the manufacturer to get issues fixed....
It aint happening. If you watched the vid you'll see what is clearly a design flaw when it comes to smoke. This Mod changes everything! IMHO
THAT IS AN AWESOME MOD ILL LET PEOPLE KNOW. BTW IM A CHARGRILLER AMBASSADOR
Awesome man. I'm pretty sure Char-Griller has seen this video. If not, they will.
*Nice Mods. Looks ugly though, specially with that cable sticking out like that.*
As someone who’s interested in some kind of charcoal grill like the ones in this video, I’m incredibly disappointed in the fact that both companies release products that require mods to be optimal or simply even just last a decent time.
That fan sticking out like that is already a bad design imo, extends that grill far to much and doesn’t look good. Adding that piece does solve the problem but man, next thing you know your grill is sticking out to your neighbors yard 🤣🤣 RIP
IDK, I’m definitely not sold on it. But mainly because I’m up in Canada where Charcoal is expensive and with our USD conversion makes these mods cost half a new grill after shipping and duties.
So I guess I’ll stick to my 3 pellet grills for now 🤣👍
Nice vid
8.... whatever your BBQing on is good enough for me🤣🤣
@@thegalleryBBQ haha facts brother
Im quite sure the flap is fire and heat resistant.
Well if that were the case then it wouldn't be burning up on people 😂😂😂😂
Why don’t they make that flap out of metal?
Not sure. Thanks for the comment Mr P.....
I don't understand what did this mod do make the smoker work better.
Hi Frank. Unlike the Masterbuilt if you add wood chunks down in the ash catcher you face burning up your flap. Because of that it was impossible to get as much wood flavor as you get on the Masterbuilt. With this Mod, you can now safely add wood to the ash catcher. Watch again and I show you what this mod does. Cheers and thanks for the question. If you have more questions feel free to email me gallerybbq@gmail.com
@@thegalleryBBQ ok I got it now thank you, so have you smoked anything lately we that new mod.
@@frankquarrell4431 Frank. I was going to today but had to pull out as it was 17 degrees and windy! Just flat out too cold to film. Tomorrow's the day and the vid will be out Wednesday
@@thegalleryBBQ I hear you I Iive in NM and its starting to feel like summer here perfect for smoking a pork butt. I'll be watching for your next video Thank for the chat. Frank.
Why didn't they just ask you in the first place?
Im telling you! Cheers my man.
It took some convincing but the wife agreed .
143..... Don't forget this ruclips.net/video/bH6xczdEdDs/видео.html
$85 for that part is high
Have you priced steel latley. Thanks for watching and the comment.
💞💐💐
Cheers.
Were can I this mod at for my graty 980? And also a flap for the 980 please reply and let me know where to buy from thanks.
Char Griller will not honor the warranty for the 980 Gravity. Can't directly contact Char Griller and they are very slow to respond to warranty claim. Unit went down within 6 months of purchase, Char Griller eventually said they would send replacement parts but its been 2 months and instead of grilling I'm eating "take out" chinese food. My advice, don't buy this grill unless you want to eat a lot of "take out".
Thats a shame. Personly, id buy another from Lowes then return the bad one 2 months later. But thats me!
Yeah so just put the wood in the chimney,problem solved.I have a 560 and it’s a flimsy garbage grill.Manifold rusted out and sensors quit.980 all the way
Why not just rip off the flap ?
R Q, you'll lose total temp control. The pit will just keep rising..... It controls the temp, and does it well.
@@thegalleryBBQ gotcha
You paid your money and you got to mot it nope
Reemember one thing. It'll out-cook any pit you own. Yep!
Still a cheap chinese mass produced “smoker”. Doesnt change anything.
Jason. I hear ya brother. Thanks for the comment!
@@thegalleryBBQ i do love your recipes. Sunday gravy is awesome. 👍🏻
@@jasonmcdonald2939 thanks bud....
Do you find the Chargriller runs colder than what the temp display shows?
Anyone of these types of pits can run hot or cold at any given time. That is why i always use an external source. It's always spot on. If you need a link for one LMK gallerybbq@gmail.com