I was in the USAF on F15s ‘90-‘96… you gotta give the French credit for having their own aircraft industry. They make good aircraft. Who wants to go to an airshow with 25 F35s from 25 different countries.
as a french that's very kind of you thanks and i agree with you. Sweden probaby deserves some love too, they had some cool ideas. Russia too but obviously its complicated now...
@@antoinelemoine9222 lol so did Australia and actually still does. Australia designed a jet in late 1940's and would of been released early 1950's with a top speed over Mach 1.5 but was shut down by UK and USA as didn't want a British colony to make a plane better then their own. CAC CA23 was put down as a bad design but even Russia stole the design for the SU7. If let alone to produce i am sure Australian aviation would be at the forefront now. Can tell by Australian designed and built MQ28A Ghost Bat most advanced drone in the world. Hopefully Australian company will be 1st to fly a scramjet powered drone next year and break fastest aircraft in the world before anyone else does. Australia has world fastest scramjet engine at mach 12 and never mentioned in hypersonics. even though a Australian Ray Stalker was 1st to get essence of flight from scramjets.
@@presidenteden6498just to see the rafale capable to hold on respect a f22 raptor costing many times more than a rafale is an outstanding performance by the french
You should check French engineering about naval warfare and especially Battleships. Richelieu got unlucky during the war but it was far more capable than the German Bismarck rival for exemple. One of the most powerful ship with almost 250k HP which allowed the Richelieu to reach 37knots. One of the first radar, A true fast reload system without losing track of the enemy ship would be later copied by the US in 1943 when the Richelieu came to NY for reparations and refit of its AA. Truly impressive, a lot is still the be say with their after war design for CV, DDS and heavy cruiser
@@kayzenl7911 and particularly for the BPC now, which is a true littoral combat ship. Even for land systems, ours are quirky, but well suited for their environment. The AMX 10 and the Sagaie comes to mind. The VAB too is a pretty nice vehicle
Most of those amazing so advanced projects (Griffon, Leduc, Atar VTOL, Balzac, Baroudeur and so on) were scrapped, victims of budget restrictions and the massive reshuffling of French air industry with the merger of all the public and semi or private companies (Nord, Ouest, Sud-Est, Sud-Ouest, etc.) in only two big ones: public Sud-Aviation (much later expanding to Aerospatiale and Airbus European endeavour) and private Dassault.
French aviation certainly has an interesting history regarding company reorganizations. Before WW2 a lot of private aircraft manufacturers became nationalized into what finallly got known as Nord, Sud-Ouest and Sud-Est Aviation, the fuss and efforts accompanied with all these reorganizations basically robbing the French of actual aircraft production capability when aircraft were urgently needed.
@@charlesrousseau6837 - yep... the usual LBO (profit for... lawyers and financers at expense of engineers and techs) "CONSOLIDATION," "bigger will make everything better" b.s. By contrast, EVERYONE KNOWS that SKUNK WORKS (Clarence Kelly's secret design teams within Lockheed) were a small, elite group that produced the SR-71
M’y grandad actually worked on the air intakes of the Griffon, met multiple time the test pilot, André Turcat, and explained me how this fabulous had such a need for speed
...amazing how much aviation advanced during this age of inspirational engineering, may he be remembered as a pioneer and an inspiration to many in the future.....
@@demscrazy6574 The X-15 was an aerodynamically lifted vehicle with a rocket for propulsion. Being a glider for landing make it an aeroplane (and so is the SpaceShuttle).
Always loved French jets. Especially the mirage series, flying since the 60s is one of the best designs for a fighter ever made. Check out all the low level flying vids the French air force made. Some of the coolest low level fighter jet vids
Wanna check out a really good YT channel about French jet fighters? The _marine nationale_ (French navy) has its own channel named Chasse Embarquée and they produce insane videos.
Merci à tous ceux qui ont eu la volonté de garder indépendante notre industrie aéronautique. Beaucoup de respect envers tous les ingénieurs et inventeurs de cette branche qui fait que notre avoir faire est reconnu dans le monde entier.
Merci surtout à tous ceux qui prient le chapelet tous les jours. Comme l'a demandé Sainte Marguerite-Marie Alacoque à notre Roi Louis XIV, la France doit être consacrée au Sacré Coeur. Comme cela n'a pas été fait, 100 après jour pour jour la révolution a éclaté et permis la mort du descendant de Louis XIV. Jésus Christ qui est Dieu veut régner par la France sur le monde. Malheureusement, les Français sont devenus des chiens de Pavlov récitant à la place le crédo de la « république laïque » visant à nous annihiler de l'intérieur.
@@Strayus ben non, encore récemment y a un français qui a inventé l'hydravion Akoya le plus rapide au monde. Airbus a aussi fait le Beluga et des A400 qui peuvent stocker 3 fois plus d'eau que des canadairs. Il faut revenir à la religion de nos ancêtres qui est détruite par Vatican 2 avec une nouvelle messe. Dieu a bien récompensé la France, ce sont les Français qui sont des ingrats. Aussi, vous devriez chercher pourquoi vous êtes démoralisé et écouter la vidéo de Yuri Besmenov avec sous-titres français sur YT si vous ne connaissez pas.
@@Strayusce n'est pas parce que c'était avant, que cela ne peut pas être comme ça demain. Le peuple français à son destin entre ses mains tout est encore possible.
@@YourFriendlyOfficeAssistantA ramjet is significantly more complicated that a turbojet. Sure it may be a lot simpler, but its also a lot more complicated. Although, slapping a turbojet engine in front does make it significantly less complicated
Even before 1913 ;) 'According to Arhur C. Clarke, Cyrano must be credited both for first applying the rocket to space travel and, for inventing the ramjet. Cyrano wrote: "I foresaw very well, that the vacuity that would happen in the icosahedron, by reason of the sunbeams, united by the concave glasses, would, to fill up the space, attract a great abundance of air, whereby my box would be carried up; and that proportionable as I mounted, the rushing wind that should force it through the hole, could not rise to the roof, but that furiously penetrating the machine, it must needs force it upon high." (from Greetings, Carbon-Based Bipeds by Arhur C. Clarke, 2000)'
@@rudyvinck1447 the engine is a rolls Royce unit, developed in the UK with some snecma influence in the shaft, that's it. The structure was only based upon the principal of the super caravelle, not the construction
@namename3130 I didn't mean to say that the English participation of the Concorde program was not valuable. But I'm annoying to read some silly comments dictated by chauvinism and try to transform the reality ( and by the way, im not French).
It was too advanced for the time but canard and delta wing where also visionnary of top aicraft of today. Material and alloy of the time where not up to the task. The ramjet is now used on French nuke missile for 40 years+ and being adopted every where with hypersonic race. France was so in advance but get bankrupted by WWII.
@@TheMourningBlade It's located in a circular hall with lots of French fighter planes pointing towards the middle of the room. The floor is painted with the French cockade.
@@ConcernedviolentVigilant-tj8ny ask the Russians and Germans, Normandie-Niemen is still a reference there. And read about the first battle of France, you will be surprised to learn the fault lied mainly on antiquated landforces command.
the French have always built the best planes....their engineers are very good, the only limitation is money, it is terribly expensive to develop planes. why do you think the Germans want to work with the French on the 6th generation aircraft project? it's to steal their technologies!
And also the first operating aircraft with a compound turbojet-ramjet engine. The issue at the time was that ramjets were not well-known. It was an on/off type instead of a throttleable engine like the turbojet, thus the french air force prefered the mirage III
There was also the Sud-Ouest Trident SO 9000 with two turbojets and a rocket engine but frightening of all to me (at the time and since) was the Leduc 0.21 with just one ramjet so it had to be carried up and then released.
Some corrections here: 0:45 and 8:40 Given the "turbofan" engine doesn't have any bypass with a fan around it, by definition it's a turbojet, not a turbofan. It’s the earlier type of jet engine available, the first turbofan military fighter came out much later, like the F-111. 6:27 And instead of “turbofan” you should say “…like a conventional Jet Engine…” It’s like calling crisps as “French fires”. Sure both are fried potato, but they are quite different. A jet engine does not use any compressor is called a “ramjet”, if the engine flow passes, it’s called “pulsejet”, if the internal flow is supersonic, it’s “scramjet”. A “turbojet” engine is a jet engine use a compressor (hence “turbo”) gas combusted by the engine to propel forward, the earliest and most basic type of jet engine. A “turbofan” is specifically for a turbojet engines with a ducted fan bypass; for fan without a surrounding duct, these are called “propfan”. If the turbojet engine is connected to a propeller, and the exhaust have almost no energy (don’t use exhaust jet as propulsion), then it’s called “turbo prop”. And if the turboprop is NOT connected to a propeller, instead connected to rotor blades or used like a conventional engine, then it’s called “turbo shaft engine”.
The Blackbird SR-71 that was actually made and used for decades flew faster in actual flights anyway, so not really. There's also speculation that it could fly even faster than it's official top speed of mach 3.3, including a test pilot who claimed he reached mach 3.5.
@@DoubleMonoLR did you even watch the video to know what part im referring too? and was the SR71 around when this thing went took off? wasn't the damn point who the fastest was but that the narrator mentions that it had to get up to mach one and then the pilot hits the switch for the ram jet to get it up to mach 3. typical "AkShuAlLy" internet smartass.
The Saab Draken is sweet, i. Like the avro vulcan too with its crazy howl that sounds like war of the worlds irl. All awesome planes, the gripen's tech is yet to be fully utilised but its agility shown already is crazy and it has big potential. 🫡
71 days. That’s how long it held the speed record. Soon to be passed by the F-106 and F-4. They went into production. F-4, ended up around Mach 2.2. Sr-71/YF-12 used a similar concept, but it’s system incorporated in to one unit. Turbo fan by passed at high speed, then a ram jet effect employed. This allowed the system to be throttled up and down, instead of on and off. It also made Mach 3.5+ possible. As for the titanium, yea it’s expensive. But the real issue is that at the time of this project the Soviets controlled the majority of the raw resources for it. They, surprise, surprise wouldn’t sell it to the west. How the US obtained the titanium resources from the Soviets, is in itself out of a spy novel.
well, even though the F-4's absolute speed record was achieved through water injection, there are accounts of standard service F-4s being tested (clen confing) in the artic having reached M 2.4, and the engines had thrust to go even further, just they would tear themselves and the whole plane apart.
French are the best in the world plane designer and builder. Dassaut aviation is a pioneer and still the best. But excellent quality has a cost and it is not easy to sell such plane. It isthe same with Rolls-Royce ,few are lucky to have it !
"The lack of power was exasperated." Was it? There's a name for this type of mistake - a malapropism. They're usually ludicrous, and this case is no exception.
6:51 YOU MASSACRED THE CAMEMBERT! (Moreover if you put camembert in the oven you need to be arrested) For the rest it's a great video, I love how funny french planes look some times (I'm french)
Pardon? Le camembert roti au four (avec de l'ail ou du miel ) ca existe,de meme que les quiches a base de camembert ou de la fondue au camembert (rare ok mais ca existe) ou encore un gratin de pommes de terre et au camembert.
@@JimforbesRitte British engineering (of which I'm a great admirer) has it's own associated saying: The highest highs and the lowest lows. Fairey bucks the trend there too because they had some, although certainly not always by their own fault, astonishingly average designs. 😁
@@nicolasdesigoyer6850 Ouch. You got me there. You're absolutely right, there may be 1 or 2 areas where the French way of doing things has gotten something more than local traction. 🙄
10:21 Andre Turcat (pron. Tur-Cah) was the first pilot to fly the Concorde. Shortly afterwards, British pilot Brian Trubshaw became the second. This was a quirk of the manufacturing process, where one was built in France and the other in Britain.
Like the SR71. That plane had both engines in it. A regular and a ramjet. The regular was for lower altitudes and getting the plane up to speed for the ramjet to take over.
It's the secret "white flag" mode to run away from enemies. Jokes aside, it's just theoretical. It's easy to claim a speed without actually reaching it. The difficult part comes from making it work in reality without the plane blowing apart or the engines melting.
This sentence has been coined so many times since the mid-1970's that I have grown tired from hearing it time after time . ... I doubt the french people of today actually believe in the pertinence of it either as proverbs,'maximes and mottos alike never fail with the passing of time to become obsolete and reduced to the common label of "clichés" .....
@@martinquerre9614 I don't think it's a cliché. There are often heaps of inventions and discoveries made in France. But for lack of will or money, companies are often forced to sell themselves or their invention abroad, alas.
In practical terms "only" Mach 2.1. And then came the all-weather Mach 2 Lightning with its classified actual top speed and altitude. It was put into production and in squadron service in 1960 and the russians wet themselves. It could get on target fast and dive down like a peregrine on a pigeon. The russians had no answer. It was the Lightning that stopped the russians developing supersonic bombers, they would get shot down like a flock of doves before they even got into range of the SAMs. An advantage of the Lightning is it could and did also work transonic, Bears are slow. That's where the ramjet idea falls down, dead weight most of the time and wastes jet fuel. Lightnings were largely based in UK and W.Germany, the Luftwaffe were quite pissed off by only being given F-104. The french got the lovely Mirage, but as one french exchange pilot put it, the Lightning was like a Mirage with two jets. A lot of the french and british military research tech of that time went into the Concorde.
Nobody seems to be mentioning the British FD2 (Fairey Delta 2) which flew in the early Fifties and for a short while, held the World Airspeed Record before it was mothballed by the shortsighted British Government! Aren't they supposed to be on our side? After seeing and being impressed by the FD2, Marcel Dassault was inspired to develop the Mirage family of aircraft and actually admitted this. He also said he found it difficult to understand why the British did not take the FD2, develop it and put it into production as a delta wing supersonic fighter. So he did it! Btw, if you look at the cockpit and nose section of the Nord Griffon it is almost identical to that of the FD2!
@@MAR.LARKIN-YES-T Quick google search : The first flight of a delta wing aircraft took place in the United States at the Muroc AFB Flight Test Center on 18 September 1948. The aircraft, Convair No. 7002, Air Force S/N 46-682 and designated the XF-92A was piloted by Convair's Manager of Flight Research, E.D. “Sam” Shannon.
@@ejmproductions8198 It is a bit odd. Each one had different performance, Mach 2.3 to Mach 2.6. Towards its end of life pilots were allowed to use up the airframe, edge of space altitudes. There's some anecdotal of pilots diving at Mach 5 without issue (a limiting factor would be the air intake pressure). I have not been able to find a maximum Mach number (do not exceed) for the airframe, it's like it didn't have one. I did find a max 9g, but could a pilot even that even in the g-suit.
@@MAR.LARKIN-YES-T The Fairey Delta was an experimental never intended for production. It was used to develop the delta that went onto Vulcan and Concorde et al. The french did not steal the the data, it was shared with them. Politicians then as now are a nuisance. Fortunately I ever only met a few ministry mandarins, they haven't got a clue with science&tech, you have to explain like to children, and then repeat everything.
In fact in never got to more than M2.2 which made the EE Lightning faster and in production and in service Mixed power plant designs were never practical. Same with the Saunders Roe SR53 and SR177.
your statement about the titanium structure is out of context... if you read the books, all this airplane had to do to be bought by the Armée de l'Air was to get to MACH 2 wich it did... the real reason this airplane did not get accepted was that the "stato" (ramjet) did not have a variable thrust control, it was "all or nothing" and of course, the Mirage III was comming up and offered a cheap and easy to use solution to the MACH 2 contract specifications... Now go a look at the 9050 and tell us which record it still hold today. Cheers.
Faster than Mig-25? Let's be honest, during setting speed and altitude records in 1960th the Mig-25 actually accelerated beyond M 3.45 (such a speed was also recorded over Israel for the MiG-25R). In contrast the Griffon 1500 top speed was recorded as M 2.19. The turbo/ramjet combination in Griffon wasn't a great engeneering desiign but rather a step forward from the Leduc 0.22 with a simple, unadjustable and uneffective air intake. The MiG-25 R-15 engine was designed specifically for high altitude/speed flight and behaved as a ramjet rather than the turbojet in full power. The air compression occured in a sophisticated electronically-driven air intake and not in the engine compressor itself (the compressor ratio of R-15 is 4.5). Bytheway, the MiGs-25 predecessor, the Ye-152 (Ye-166) already set the record of M 3 in 1962, one and a half years after the Griffon barely reached its top M 2.19. But I have to admit, the Griffon 1500 looks avesome and fancy. It has its own weerd style.
Nice and interesting video. If you want to know how to pronounce Dassault, it’s easy. Do not pronounce the L or the T. Imagine Da like the word yes in Russian and So, as in the English word.
It was nowhere near as fast as the MiG-25. The top speed for the NG 1500 was about Mach 2.2. The idea that the Griffon III would reach Mach 3 was pure speculation.
As per usual a benchmark of freak plane animation and wtf aviation history 👍😊 How can one give you inspiration for another video because I may have one or two in mind who might apply to you that might fit 😉
0:48 ! You become more informed when you talk about something. A MiG-25 was flown at a speed of 4,000 kilometers per hour over Israel in 1972th by an Egyptian Air Force pilot, as confirmed by officers from the USSR whose plane it was. That is exactly Mach 3.239 !
Just started subscribing. Great, in depth info, obviously painstakingly researched! Just one question? When you say exasperated, do you mean exacerbated?
The combination of jet engine + ramjet and a titanium fuselage finally led to the SR 71 with its "insane" design. But even more insane is that it was actually the USSR that provided the titanium for the Blackbird, even if Moscow of course wasn't aware of the the end user... Amazing history...
Ah yeah, the wonderful 50s and 60s were such a wildcard in aviation design... 😁😁 Btw: the most famous plane with this propulsion combination is the SR-71 Blackbird. At supersonic speeds the turbojet core was still used but most of the air redirected around it - this way the RAMJET function was realized. And the Blackbird was specifically designed for Mach 3.28 - at this speed it was the most efficient. 😎✌
Funny enough the MiG 25 Foxbat could hit a speed of Mach 3.2+ but the engines would overheat and eat themselves. So they put a modest speed limit of Mach 2.8 on the plane because of it hahaha
@@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts Even then, a test pilot claimed he reached mach 3.5 in the Blackbird, and there's speculation(whether true or not) that the true top speed has never been released.
i am sooooooooooo SICK to hear all that BULSHIT FORM THE US' ALL OF THEIR PLANE DESIGN WAS STOLLEN FROM THE RUSSIANS AND EUROPEANS SO SHUT UP AND GET OFF WITH THOSE... TALK ABOUT THE ONE WHICH WAS NOT COPIED... and 'RE- DESIGNED'
You gotta love NATO. Russia builds something that does something cool on paper, and NATO responds by building something that does something even better in real life.
Feançe has not always been in NATO. Degaulle was no big fan of the English and Americans who treated him like a potential problem and kept him away of big meetings…. He had to impose himself but did not trust the Anglo saxons because of the way they mistreated him and wants to make of France a puppet country like Germany after ww2
Ту-160 - бумажный самолет? Или МиГ-31? Может Кинжал - это только мультфильм? Или Ланцет - бумажный самолет? Мне кажется, что сейчас НАТО - бумажный тигр, что без армии США ничего не стоит. Хотя военные бюджеты стран НАТО в несколько раз больше военного бюджета России.
It was never a fighter, it was a research aircraft like the US X-Planes, and like them it certainly fired the imagination. It did briefly hold the world air speed record in 1959 at just over Mach 2, but it was cancelled shortly afterwards. The reason was that conventional jet aircraft had caught up in terms of performance without the complicated ram jet engine system. Also it was the era were guided missiles were to take over the job of bomber interceptors. A great many similar projects were cancelled at the same time.
I am french. I don't give a shit about this plane. I am just here for reading the comments, and gosh, i am delighted. Just like for each french plane, you are all shitting on it.
I was in the USAF on F15s ‘90-‘96… you gotta give the French credit for having their own aircraft industry. They make good aircraft. Who wants to go to an airshow with 25 F35s from 25 different countries.
don't worry out of all 25 F-35 only 20 will be able to fly after
Did you bomb bosnian serbs in 94?
as a french that's very kind of you thanks and i agree with you. Sweden probaby deserves some love too, they had some cool ideas. Russia too but obviously its complicated now...
@@antoinelemoine9222 lol so did Australia and actually still does. Australia designed a jet in late 1940's and would of been released early 1950's with a top speed over Mach 1.5 but was shut down by UK and USA as didn't want a British colony to make a plane better then their own.
CAC CA23 was put down as a bad design but even Russia stole the design for the SU7.
If let alone to produce i am sure Australian aviation would be at the forefront now.
Can tell by Australian designed and built MQ28A Ghost Bat most advanced drone in the world.
Hopefully Australian company will be 1st to fly a scramjet powered drone next year and break fastest aircraft in the world before anyone else does.
Australia has world fastest scramjet engine at mach 12 and never mentioned in hypersonics. even though a Australian Ray Stalker was 1st to get essence of flight from scramjets.
@@presidenteden6498just to see the rafale capable to hold on respect a f22 raptor costing many times more than a rafale is an outstanding performance by the french
I have long held great admiration generally for French engineering's outside the box thinking particularly when it comes to cars and aircraft.
Particularly for cars, god do I love hydraulic suspension, and Citroën in general
You should check French engineering about naval warfare and especially Battleships. Richelieu got unlucky during the war but it was far more capable than the German Bismarck rival for exemple. One of the most powerful ship with almost 250k HP which allowed the Richelieu to reach 37knots. One of the first radar, A true fast reload system without losing track of the enemy ship would be later copied by the US in 1943 when the Richelieu came to NY for reparations and refit of its AA.
Truly impressive, a lot is still the be say with their after war design for CV, DDS and heavy cruiser
@@kayzenl7911 and particularly for the BPC now, which is a true littoral combat ship. Even for land systems, ours are quirky, but well suited for their environment. The AMX 10 and the Sagaie comes to mind. The VAB too is a pretty nice vehicle
THANKS. It is relatively rare for Americans, often hyper-nationalists, to recognize the value of foreign products
Et le train...?
The TGV...
Most of those amazing so advanced projects (Griffon, Leduc, Atar VTOL, Balzac, Baroudeur and so on) were scrapped, victims of budget restrictions and the massive reshuffling of French air industry with the merger of all the public and semi or private companies (Nord, Ouest, Sud-Est, Sud-Ouest, etc.) in only two big ones: public Sud-Aviation (much later expanding to Aerospatiale and Airbus European endeavour) and private Dassault.
Same thing happened to the Brits In the late 1960s . It eventually happened in late 1980s/ early 1990s with the end of the Cold War in the USA
Ha balzac
French aviation certainly has an interesting history regarding company reorganizations. Before WW2 a lot of private aircraft manufacturers became nationalized into what finallly got known as Nord, Sud-Ouest and Sud-Est Aviation, the fuss and efforts accompanied with all these reorganizations basically robbing the French of actual aircraft production capability when aircraft were urgently needed.
@@charlesrousseau6837 - yep... the usual LBO (profit for... lawyers and financers at expense of engineers and techs)
"CONSOLIDATION," "bigger will make everything better" b.s.
By contrast, EVERYONE KNOWS that SKUNK WORKS (Clarence Kelly's secret design teams within Lockheed)
were a small, elite group that produced the SR-71
Scrapped due to traitor leftist governments.
M’y grandad actually worked on the air intakes of the Griffon, met multiple time the test pilot, André Turcat, and explained me how this fabulous had such a need for speed
...amazing how much aviation advanced during this age of inspirational engineering, may he be remembered as a pioneer and an inspiration to many in the future.....
sorry for that.
Turcat was one of the Concord test pilots I believe.
@@stanleybuchan4610 he was indeed also test pilot for concorde, but mainly test pilot for military aircrafts ;)
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The plane shown in the thumbnail and in the title uses a ramjet not a rocket so it is a plane, he got it right
So you're telling me the person who made the video did his research? I don't believe it
Rockets can be airplanes. The question is whether the wings deliver lift in flight. The Me163 was an airplane… The X-15 was an airplane…
For when you can’t surrender fast enough.
@@allangibson8494the x-15 was a rocket with wings
@@demscrazy6574 The X-15 was an aerodynamically lifted vehicle with a rocket for propulsion. Being a glider for landing make it an aeroplane (and so is the SpaceShuttle).
Always loved French jets. Especially the mirage series, flying since the 60s is one of the best designs for a fighter ever made. Check out all the low level flying vids the French air force made. Some of the coolest low level fighter jet vids
Wanna check out a really good YT channel about French jet fighters? The _marine nationale_ (French navy) has its own channel named Chasse Embarquée and they produce insane videos.
The French are so underrated.
only in anglo saxon countries! ;)
We are just really bad at marketing
Merci beaucoup!
A Concord?
Not quit. Actually, France is strongly respected in the aircraft industry as well in military industry
Merci à tous ceux qui ont eu la volonté de garder indépendante notre industrie aéronautique. Beaucoup de respect envers tous les ingénieurs et inventeurs de cette branche qui fait que notre avoir faire est reconnu dans le monde entier.
Merci surtout à tous ceux qui prient le chapelet tous les jours. Comme l'a demandé Sainte Marguerite-Marie Alacoque à notre Roi Louis XIV, la France doit être consacrée au Sacré Coeur. Comme cela n'a pas été fait, 100 après jour pour jour la révolution a éclaté et permis la mort du descendant de Louis XIV.
Jésus Christ qui est Dieu veut régner par la France sur le monde. Malheureusement, les Français sont devenus des chiens de Pavlov récitant à la place le crédo de la « république laïque » visant à nous annihiler de l'intérieur.
c'etait avant..
@@Strayus ben non, encore récemment y a un français qui a inventé l'hydravion Akoya le plus rapide au monde.
Airbus a aussi fait le Beluga et des A400 qui peuvent stocker 3 fois plus d'eau que des canadairs.
Il faut revenir à la religion de nos ancêtres qui est détruite par Vatican 2 avec une nouvelle messe. Dieu a bien récompensé la France, ce sont les Français qui sont des ingrats. Aussi, vous devriez chercher pourquoi vous êtes démoralisé et écouter la vidéo de Yuri Besmenov avec sous-titres français sur YT si vous ne connaissez pas.
Oui, c'était avant. Avant que les médiocres, les malveillants, les corrompus et les traîtres arrivent aux commandes.
@@Strayusce n'est pas parce que c'était avant, que cela ne peut pas être comme ça demain.
Le peuple français à son destin entre ses mains tout est encore possible.
André Turcat became later the test pilot on Concorde's first flight.
It's crazy to think that the Ramjet was invented in France in 1913. Planes of the time weren't even capable of testing this new type of engine.
Well it makes sense. In principle, it is less complicated than a turbojet.
@@YourFriendlyOfficeAssistantA ramjet is significantly more complicated that a turbojet.
Sure it may be a lot simpler, but its also a lot more complicated. Although, slapping a turbojet engine in front does make it significantly less complicated
@@jakehildebrand1824 I did say in principle. In practice not so much.
Even before 1913 ;) 'According to Arhur C. Clarke, Cyrano must be credited both for first applying the rocket to space travel and, for inventing the ramjet. Cyrano wrote:
"I foresaw very well, that the vacuity that would happen in the icosahedron, by reason of the sunbeams, united by the concave glasses, would, to fill up the space, attract a great abundance of air, whereby my box would be carried up; and that proportionable as I mounted, the rushing wind that should force it through the hole, could not rise to the roof, but that furiously penetrating the machine, it must needs force it upon high." (from Greetings, Carbon-Based Bipeds by Arhur C. Clarke, 2000)'
@@2nolhta theres a huge difference between having an idea for something, and inventing it.
The French build good aircraft. Back in the 90's in my youth I was fortunate to fly on Concorde. Incredible experience.
Nearly all British, the French completely took the piss
@@pbart9821 like what ?, the engine ?, the airframe is mostly a french design base on the Super Caravelle
@@rudyvinck1447 the engine is a rolls Royce unit, developed in the UK with some snecma influence in the shaft, that's it. The structure was only based upon the principal of the super caravelle, not the construction
@@rudyvinck1447british eind tunnel testing and concept selection
@namename3130 I didn't mean to say that the English participation of the Concorde program was not valuable. But I'm annoying to read some silly comments dictated by chauvinism and try to transform the reality ( and by the way, im not French).
My uncle worked on this project (I'm French btw ^^). He showed me some photos, the engine air intake was *huge* asf.
It was too advanced for the time but canard and delta wing where also visionnary of top aicraft of today. Material and alloy of the time where not up to the task. The ramjet is now used on French nuke missile for 40 years+ and being adopted every where with hypersonic race. France was so in advance but get bankrupted by WWII.
If you're interested, you can see this plane in France, in the Museum of Le Bourget Airport !
Wow thanks I’ll go check it out when I go to france!
Damn, I was these last Saturday and back then, I even did not know that this plane existed. I didn't see it in the museum.
@@TheMourningBlade It's located in a circular hall with lots of French fighter planes pointing towards the middle of the room. The floor is painted with the French cockade.
@@KyrianLB yea, I saw all the cool Mirages, Mysteres but that one eluded my attention.
Thanks, Yes, I wish to see this plane. The French are very good to make planes
This amazing aircraft reminds me of France's amazing air force.
talk to world war soldiers, they never saw or met a frenchman
@@ConcernedviolentVigilant-tj8ny Has anyone ever told you how little your opinion matters?
@@ConcernedviolentVigilant-tj8ny ask the Russians and Germans, Normandie-Niemen is still a reference there. And read about the first battle of France, you will be surprised to learn the fault lied mainly on antiquated landforces command.
the French have always built the best planes....their engineers are very good, the only limitation is money, it is terribly expensive to develop planes.
why do you think the Germans want to work with the French on the 6th generation aircraft project? it's to steal their technologies!
And so they did, right before announcing that they are leaving the project.
And also the first operating aircraft with a compound turbojet-ramjet engine. The issue at the time was that ramjets were not well-known. It was an on/off type instead of a throttleable engine like the turbojet, thus the french air force prefered the mirage III
“The French sought ‘new and exciting’ ways…” 😂
There was also the Sud-Ouest Trident SO 9000 with two turbojets and a rocket engine but frightening of all to me (at the time and since) was the Leduc 0.21 with just one ramjet so it had to be carried up and then released.
The LEDUC 022 had a turbojet so it could take off by itself
the nord 5000 is so similar to the Mirage 2000 you need to do a video on this marvelous aircraft
How goofy do you want your plane to look?
The french: yes
Oui*
Thanks for your video. I'm french and never heard about those cute babies 'til now 😍
Thank you so much. I was thinking about this design. Did not know France did this engineering gem.
Some corrections here:
0:45 and 8:40 Given the "turbofan" engine doesn't have any bypass with a fan around it, by definition it's a turbojet, not a turbofan. It’s the earlier type of jet engine available, the first turbofan military fighter came out much later, like the F-111.
6:27 And instead of “turbofan” you should say “…like a conventional Jet Engine…”
It’s like calling crisps as “French fires”. Sure both are fried potato, but they are quite different.
A jet engine does not use any compressor is called a “ramjet”, if the engine flow passes, it’s called “pulsejet”, if the internal flow is supersonic, it’s “scramjet”.
A “turbojet” engine is a jet engine use a compressor (hence “turbo”) gas combusted by the engine to propel forward, the earliest and most basic type of jet engine. A “turbofan” is specifically for a turbojet engines with a ducted fan bypass; for fan without a surrounding duct, these are called “propfan”. If the turbojet engine is connected to a propeller, and the exhaust have almost no energy (don’t use exhaust jet as propulsion), then it’s called “turbo prop”. And if the turboprop is NOT connected to a propeller, instead connected to rotor blades or used like a conventional engine, then it’s called “turbo shaft engine”.
The proper spelling is French "fries" - not "fires" !!😀😇
@@martinquerre9614
Unless the cook is clumsy.
It's so cool on how he says 'Guardian of the North'
"NAAAH, LET'S MAKE IT BIGGGGER" - The Best Doctor EVER!
"You see that big ass nuclear reactor ?"
"Yea why ?"
"Put wings on it"
so basically this thing actually had a "ludicrous speed" switch
The Blackbird SR-71 that was actually made and used for decades flew faster in actual flights anyway, so not really. There's also speculation that it could fly even faster than it's official top speed of mach 3.3, including a test pilot who claimed he reached mach 3.5.
This plane was the ancestor of Spaceball I
@@DoubleMonoLR did you even watch the video to know what part im referring too? and was the SR71 around when this thing went took off? wasn't the damn point who the fastest was but that the narrator mentions that it had to get up to mach one and then the pilot hits the switch for the ram jet to get it up to mach 3.
typical "AkShuAlLy" internet smartass.
I typically start with a chainsaw, then belt sander, then a plane. Seems the fastest.
Ha! And all those metal shavings are are a real PITA!
France creating an engine the size of a ship and putting a cockpit over it
Griffon can still be seen at Le Bourget's Air and Space museum near Paris.
Mate, I hope you will also discuss the Saab Gripen someday. That Swedish jet deserves more love.
What about the Draken?
The Saab Draken is sweet, i. Like the avro vulcan too with its crazy howl that sounds like war of the worlds irl. All awesome planes, the gripen's tech is yet to be fully utilised but its agility shown already is crazy and it has big potential. 🫡
Also, its predecessors the Viggen & Draken
maaaate makes you sound lame like saddam khan of londonistan mayor.
no
The precursor in ramjet aircraft was René Leduc (Leduc 022). He built some really crazy prototypes. The Griffon borrowed many of Leduc's ideas.
and the feffing nazis used the trickfor V1
Saw it at the Bourget Space and Air museum ! Vive la France !
Everyone: A engine built for a jet!
France: A jet built for an engine.. Hon hon hon....
I saw this plane at the museum of air and space in paris along with concorde
How mad that the Concorde went the same speed as the Nord Griffon 2 with passengers not strapped to an engine but sipping champagne at 60,000ft.
At this time in France, there was a popular proverb: "We don't have oil but we have ideas". A bygone era, unfortunately.
71 days. That’s how long it held the speed record. Soon to be passed by the F-106 and F-4. They went into production. F-4, ended up around Mach 2.2.
Sr-71/YF-12 used a similar concept, but it’s system incorporated in to one unit. Turbo fan by passed at high speed, then a ram jet effect employed. This allowed the system to be throttled up and down, instead of on and off. It also made Mach 3.5+ possible.
As for the titanium, yea it’s expensive. But the real issue is that at the time of this project the Soviets controlled the majority of the raw resources for it. They, surprise, surprise wouldn’t sell it to the west.
How the US obtained the titanium resources from the Soviets, is in itself out of a spy novel.
It's still got the record, tough. :P
And it was a beautiful-looking machine...
well, even though the F-4's absolute speed record was achieved through water injection, there are accounts of standard service F-4s being tested (clen confing) in the artic having reached M 2.4, and the engines had thrust to go even further, just they would tear themselves and the whole plane apart.
Thank South Africa for titanium and lots of material for your Nuclear Arsenal to make it go boom.
Yeah at about 55 seconds in he claims Mach 3... But it had a conventional dura-aluminum shin that would not survive those speeds.
Sounds like the plan for the XF-103, one of those “what if” planes that probably wouldn’t have been that impressive.
French are the best in the world plane designer and builder. Dassaut aviation is a pioneer and still the best. But excellent quality has a cost and it is not easy to sell such plane. It isthe same with Rolls-Royce ,few are lucky to have it !
"See this big engine over there ?
- Yeah
- How about we bolt wings on it ?
*Bzzzz* *wrench* *Bzzzz*
- Oh My God"
Mirage IV, if you have not gone there than please do.
"The lack of power was exasperated." Was it? There's a name for this type of mistake - a malapropism. They're usually ludicrous, and this case is no exception.
He means ‘exacerbated’.
This is something right out of Capt. Scarlett.
6:51 YOU MASSACRED THE CAMEMBERT! (Moreover if you put camembert in the oven you need to be arrested)
For the rest it's a great video, I love how funny french planes look some times (I'm french)
Pardon? Le camembert roti au four (avec de l'ail ou du miel ) ca existe,de meme que les quiches a base de camembert ou de la fondue au camembert (rare ok mais ca existe) ou encore un gratin de pommes de terre et au camembert.
Actually camembert roasted in the oven is quite good 🙂 personally I like it served with caramelized pears...
@@chibani- je pensais qu'on utilisait plutôt du coulommiers 😅
@@anotherstupidrandom4240 faut bien choisir son camembert de preference au lait cru.
he really gone to the museum and seeing the nord and was like:You brother you are now my content
Hahah it’s true I was there!
As the saying in engeneering goes: The French copy no one and no one copies the French.
Except for the mirages which are very close to the FD2 by Fairey…
@@JimforbesRitte British engineering (of which I'm a great admirer) has it's own associated saying: The highest highs and the lowest lows.
Fairey bucks the trend there too because they had some, although certainly not always by their own fault, astonishingly average designs. 😁
Louis Vuitton would strongly disagree with that 😅
@@nicolasdesigoyer6850 Ouch. You got me there. You're absolutely right, there may be 1 or 2 areas where the French way of doing things has gotten something more than local traction. 🙄
No one copies the French ??? Hahaha... Look at Renault FT17, look at Buenos Aires Architecture and look at Tianducheng, in China for examples
Seems like F16 designers took some design inspiration from this jet.
Toujours aussi bien expliqué pour le texte et réalisé pour l'animation vidéo.
French engineers do not get enough credit for how ingenious they are. Probably the greatest engineers alongside the Brits.
The Brits engineers are French... Like Brunel haha
@@deancorso4630you can skip engineers, the Brits are French. That's their first colony which didn't end well😅
Cold war era humans were building god damn 40k ork technology.
Earned the like just for the Doctor Who reference 😂😂 Well done, the story is also really interesting!
It's not a jet with an engine, it's an engine with a jet 😂
6:50 a 'Camo Bear' is either the cutest bear or the scariest
Seems like the UK could have tried the same idea using Lightning. Swap and Avon for a ramject and give it a shot.
Vive la France et ses fantastique avions.
10:21 Andre Turcat (pron. Tur-Cah) was the first pilot to fly the Concorde. Shortly afterwards, British pilot Brian Trubshaw became the second. This was a quirk of the manufacturing process, where one was built in France and the other in Britain.
Like the SR71. That plane had both engines in it. A regular and a ramjet. The regular was for lower altitudes and getting the plane up to speed for the ramjet to take over.
Big rear ends are popular these days too!😊
Wiki suggests this maxed out at Mach 2.2. Where does the Mach 3 / faster than a Foxbat come from ?
French Imagination.
It's the secret "white flag" mode to run away from enemies.
Jokes aside, it's just theoretical. It's easy to claim a speed without actually reaching it. The difficult part comes from making it work in reality without the plane blowing apart or the engines melting.
It looks like a small B-58 Hustler.
It does, sort of...
...I have seen a B-58 in flight.
Love your vids …I look forward to them each n every time.
In France, we don't have the US budget but we've got ideas
This sentence has been coined so many times since the mid-1970's that I have grown tired from hearing it time after time . ... I doubt the french people of today actually believe in the pertinence of it either as proverbs,'maximes and mottos alike never fail with the passing of time to become obsolete and reduced to the common label of "clichés" .....
@@martinquerre9614 still true about the money
@@martinquerre9614 I don't think it's a cliché. There are often heaps of inventions and discoveries made in France. But for lack of will or money, companies are often forced to sell themselves or their invention abroad, alas.
In practical terms "only" Mach 2.1. And then came the all-weather Mach 2 Lightning with its classified actual top speed and altitude. It was put into production and in squadron service in 1960 and the russians wet themselves. It could get on target fast and dive down like a peregrine on a pigeon. The russians had no answer. It was the Lightning that stopped the russians developing supersonic bombers, they would get shot down like a flock of doves before they even got into range of the SAMs.
An advantage of the Lightning is it could and did also work transonic, Bears are slow. That's where the ramjet idea falls down, dead weight most of the time and wastes jet fuel.
Lightnings were largely based in UK and W.Germany, the Luftwaffe were quite pissed off by only being given F-104. The french got the lovely Mirage, but as one french exchange pilot put it, the Lightning was like a Mirage with two jets. A lot of the french and british military research tech of that time went into the Concorde.
Nobody seems to be mentioning the British FD2 (Fairey Delta 2) which flew in the early Fifties and for a short while, held the World Airspeed Record before it was mothballed by the shortsighted British Government! Aren't they supposed to be on our side? After seeing and being impressed by the FD2, Marcel Dassault was inspired to develop the Mirage family of aircraft and actually admitted this. He also said he found it difficult to understand why the British did not take the FD2, develop it and put it into production as a delta wing supersonic fighter. So he did it!
Btw, if you look at the cockpit and nose section of the Nord Griffon it is almost identical to that of the FD2!
Is it's top speed still clasified - why would they do that. It is not in service
@@MAR.LARKIN-YES-T Quick google search :
The first flight of a delta wing aircraft took place in the United States at the Muroc AFB Flight Test Center on 18 September 1948. The aircraft, Convair No. 7002, Air Force S/N 46-682 and designated the XF-92A was piloted by Convair's Manager of Flight Research, E.D. “Sam” Shannon.
@@ejmproductions8198 It is a bit odd. Each one had different performance, Mach 2.3 to Mach 2.6. Towards its end of life pilots were allowed to use up the airframe, edge of space altitudes. There's some anecdotal of pilots diving at Mach 5 without issue (a limiting factor would be the air intake pressure). I have not been able to find a maximum Mach number (do not exceed) for the airframe, it's like it didn't have one. I did find a max 9g, but could a pilot even that even in the g-suit.
@@MAR.LARKIN-YES-T The Fairey Delta was an experimental never intended for production. It was used to develop the delta that went onto Vulcan and Concorde et al. The french did not steal the the data, it was shared with them. Politicians then as now are a nuisance. Fortunately I ever only met a few ministry mandarins, they haven't got a clue with science&tech, you have to explain like to children, and then repeat everything.
The dual combined engine is making a comeback for hypersonic aircraft.
In fact in never got to more than M2.2 which made the EE Lightning faster and in production and in service
Mixed power plant designs were never practical. Same with the Saunders Roe SR53 and SR177.
"It flies fast. Super fast. Faster than anything."
"Trie bien!"
"So now we can fly away from the fighting quicker!"
"*LE WHAT-*"
They are french, not english, they don't flee
La créativité des French, c'était quelque chose... Rhaaaa !
your statement about the titanium structure is out of context... if you read the books, all this airplane had to do to be bought by the Armée de l'Air was to get to MACH 2 wich it did... the real reason this airplane did not get accepted was that the "stato" (ramjet) did not have a variable thrust control, it was "all or nothing" and of course, the Mirage III was comming up and offered a cheap and easy to use solution to the MACH 2 contract specifications... Now go a look at the 9050 and tell us which record it still hold today. Cheers.
The French were like: engine just engine
Faster than Mig-25? Let's be honest, during setting speed and altitude records in 1960th the Mig-25 actually accelerated beyond M 3.45 (such a speed was also recorded over Israel for the MiG-25R). In contrast the Griffon 1500 top speed was recorded as M 2.19. The turbo/ramjet combination in Griffon wasn't a great engeneering desiign but rather a step forward from the Leduc 0.22 with a simple, unadjustable and uneffective air intake. The MiG-25 R-15 engine was designed specifically for high altitude/speed flight and behaved as a ramjet rather than the turbojet in full power. The air compression occured in a sophisticated electronically-driven air intake and not in the engine compressor itself (the compressor ratio of R-15 is 4.5). Bytheway, the MiGs-25 predecessor, the Ye-152 (Ye-166) already set the record of M 3 in 1962, one and a half years after the Griffon barely reached its top M 2.19. But I have to admit, the Griffon 1500 looks avesome and fancy. It has its own weerd style.
Sr-71 engine Pratt Whitney J-58 probably got inspired from it?
AMAZING VIDEO....Thanks
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All jets gangsta until french preggers jet flys by.
Nice and interesting video. If you want to know how to pronounce Dassault, it’s easy. Do not pronounce the L or the T. Imagine Da like the word yes in Russian and So, as in the English word.
It was nowhere near as fast as the MiG-25. The top speed for the NG 1500 was about Mach 2.2. The idea that the Griffon III would reach Mach 3 was pure speculation.
As per usual a benchmark of freak plane animation and wtf aviation history 👍😊
How can one give you inspiration for another video because I may have one or two in mind who might apply to you that might fit 😉
The nose section looks a lot like the B-58 Hustler.
0:48 ! You become more informed when you talk about something. A MiG-25 was flown at a speed of 4,000 kilometers per hour over Israel in 1972th by an Egyptian Air Force pilot, as confirmed by officers from the USSR whose plane it was. That is exactly Mach 3.239 !
Without the canards the cockpit would blew away! Such a Monster
French not making something unusual [challenge impossible]
as a french person, speedy eclair in the thumbnail got me dying
Just started subscribing. Great, in depth info, obviously painstakingly researched!
Just one question? When you say exasperated, do you mean exacerbated?
The combination of jet engine + ramjet and a titanium fuselage finally led to the SR 71 with its "insane" design. But even more insane is that it was actually the USSR that provided the titanium for the Blackbird, even if Moscow of course wasn't aware of the the end user... Amazing history...
quicker than MiG 25 is very quick indeed
AaAah, the French. Celebrated everywhere for their mechanical oddities.
😅
Is it me or does this plane resemble an F-16?
@@adastra7939 maybe it's the air intake under the cockpit. Like an F-16 on 'roids.
@@adastra7939 It is you.
@@Chris-ok4zo more like an overweight, disproportionate F-16. I wonder if General Dynamics took inspiration from this plane?
Ah yeah, the wonderful 50s and 60s were such a wildcard in aviation design... 😁😁
Btw: the most famous plane with this propulsion combination is the SR-71 Blackbird. At supersonic speeds the turbojet core was still used but most of the air redirected around it - this way the RAMJET function was realized. And the Blackbird was specifically designed for Mach 3.28 - at this speed it was the most efficient. 😎✌
Funny enough the MiG 25 Foxbat could hit a speed of Mach 3.2+ but the engines would overheat and eat themselves. So they put a modest speed limit of Mach 2.8 on the plane because of it hahaha
@@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts Even then, a test pilot claimed he reached mach 3.5 in the Blackbird, and there's speculation(whether true or not) that the true top speed has never been released.
@@DoubleMonoLR Yeah, they were almost definitely going faster, but we do not get to hear about that.
i am sooooooooooo SICK to hear all that BULSHIT FORM THE US'
ALL OF THEIR PLANE DESIGN WAS STOLLEN FROM THE RUSSIANS AND EUROPEANS
SO SHUT UP AND GET OFF WITH THOSE...
TALK ABOUT THE ONE WHICH WAS NOT COPIED... and 'RE- DESIGNED'
Nothing like this.
Dang the newest wt premium looks crazy
The SR-71 Blackbird has TurboRamjet Engines
The landing gear being that far forward looks like a "tail" strike waiting to happen.
Looks like the Swordfish from Blake & Mortimer.
You gotta love NATO. Russia builds something that does something cool on paper, and NATO responds by building something that does something even better in real life.
Feançe has not always been in NATO. Degaulle was no big fan of the English and Americans who treated him like a potential problem and kept him away of big meetings…. He had to impose himself but did not trust the Anglo saxons because of the way they mistreated him and wants to make of France a puppet country like Germany after ww2
Ту-160 - бумажный самолет? Или МиГ-31?
Может Кинжал - это только мультфильм?
Или Ланцет - бумажный самолет?
Мне кажется, что сейчас НАТО - бумажный тигр, что без армии США ничего не стоит. Хотя военные бюджеты стран НАТО в несколько раз больше военного бюджета России.
YES FINALLY, a video on the Griffon :D
8:40 It didn’t use a turbofan. It used a turbojet. The two are not interchangeable.
Ask General Dynamics about the F-111.
Hey fae could you do an Video about the mbb firefly, please. ITS very unknown and it would be amazing to see it
Love the quality animation 👌
It was never a fighter, it was a research aircraft like the US X-Planes, and like them it certainly fired the imagination. It did briefly hold the world air speed record in 1959 at just over Mach 2, but it was cancelled shortly afterwards. The reason was that conventional jet aircraft had caught up in terms of performance without the complicated ram jet engine system. Also it was the era were guided missiles were to take over the job of bomber interceptors. A great many similar projects were cancelled at the same time.
Ram jets are far from complicated. to much to them.
An operational fighter was actually planned after the successful development, but the Mirage III was finally chosen.
@@hermes6910 Very few research aircraft morph into fighters.
@@billballbuster7186 Yeah but still story of them are interesting.
well it was more of a fighter that the xb 70 valkyrie was a bomber
The planes I used to draw on my notebook when I wasn’t paying attention in class were also all faster than the MiG-25
Mine had Lasers, Countermeasures and were all a lot faster than Mig 25's
oh yeah? mine had a turboprop that reached mach 3 @@sichere
Engine with some wings and cockpit attached
I am french.
I don't give a shit about this plane.
I am just here for reading the comments, and gosh, i am delighted. Just like for each french plane, you are all shitting on it.