Me at start of video: _Oh wow this will be interesting._ *Spoilers!* Me after 5 mins: _Oh wait the time of the video seems to indicate..._ And the state at the end of game: AI: _mines resources in Viper's base, sends Trade Carts through it, does not answer gg_ Chat: *105*
It's really awesome that they programmed the AI to not just run straight into your town center anymore. AI will be much more fun to fight that way. In the original the game was basically over once you built a castle in the computers face because they would just continuously run pikemen and crossbows into the castle. That alone is a great update.
I reckon the best strats against these sorts of ai is fast castle (because they don;t really attack early). Then create a few stone defenses (because they will just attack castles and stone walls with normal units), then create mobile, archer type units to run around killing villagers and avoid fighting their army with yours at all cost.
In Definitive Edition when setting way points, right clicking without shift at the end (like in HD) actually cancels the set way points and sends the unit straight to where you last clicked (without shift). This has the advantage that you can add way points later on by clicking on the unit and holding shift. But it takes some getting used to. Just wanted to point that out, since the way you're doing it the way points have no effect. ;-)
@@kolysion164 What are you talking about? He didn't win. He won against HD before in that constellation. How is it bugged? From all I could see, it manages better than the HD ai.
Dayum, just shows how strong the new AI is, just watched a video of the new AI 1v7 the old AI and it held out 30 mins and almost defeated two of the players before the new AI got overwhelmed.
i think AI i just the best for practicing. Since no one is upset if i decide i wanna remake in the middle of the game or pause. I like playing vs AI i hope there good AI mod out there .
First score is the individual score for that player, second is the mean of the team they are a part of. The list is sorted first by team mean and then individual.
Sorry irrelevant question to the video but how did you get a huge cursor? I unticked the ‘small cursors’ but even then it’s not that much bigger compared to yours
isn't SHIFT right click a better way to use a scout viper?? i mean. you use ALOT of time to order the scout around. let it run a route and check on the map if you see enemy colors pop up. IF so, straight going to the scout using 1 (must have scout on group 1 for that) i personaly think it gives me time to breath without the constant checking on my darn scouts
i was surprised Viper didn't know the AI always go for fast Castles. And they cheat. The strategy should always be defending until you get a chance to counter attack, unless you have ultra aggressive civs like Japanese in AOE 3. I used to be able to beat 2x5 in AOE 3 using Samurais ASAP to destroy a couple of opponents. Now as Portuguese I had to boom and then turtle.
In my opinion, the music could be louder and the voice and effects be lowered. You queue actions too fast and the sound response is quite annoying. I also have a question: why do you play only on the Arabia map? I think it’d be SO fun if the map were to be at random as well. Thanks, I’m loving the videos!
well, he's kind of the best player in the world. That's like dunking a basketball on a 9-foot rim (1 foot lower than regulation) and trying to compare to Vince Carter's Dunk Contest routines.
it looks so smooth while viper is playing while mine is jumping between 150 and 50 fps every other second no matter what settings, are there any fixes yet?
@@goldster100 Yea i did that, and i went to the official site and followed the guide but it didnt solve it, just made it a bit better, i know they are having problems with newer computers atm tho, i just hope its fixed soon
i have got a 2010 toshiba satellite l670 laptop and it just about playable but it very slow moving when I have over 120 people made in the screen. but I cannot buy a newer laptop at this time as I am not working and money is very short. but I do like playing this new version of age of empires 2 de edition
The Art of War challenges are very hard actually. The fact that the best player in the world didn't manage to get gold on two scenarii on the first try proves it. Not even speaking about myself... I had to replay them dozen of times, literally.
@@Nihiliste- You have to consider the fact that he's joking. And, yeah, they are quite hard. I got gold on the first try only on rushing by now... (Haven't finished them all yet though)
@@Nihiliste- Nobody is putting down Viper, he doesn't need to prove himself to anyone. You are taking a joke too seriously. They are just joking about how viper, being the best player, couldn't get gold on all of the challenges first try. No one is trying to feel better about himself by a joke.
the AI is wired we played 2 vs 1 hardes AI and the AI rushed us with 400 military and makes with 100 farmers 5 times more resources than we did with 200 farmers gold i collected 20.000 and the Ai 50.000 with like 10 people mining it somehow it seems not everything with the AI is legit
I see that he can get the deers to his tc with the scout by clicking on it. If I Rclick with the scout on deers he kills them, is there an option to change it?
Awesome performance! Thanks for teaching us a lot. I just downloaded a *cheap* version of this game before buying from Store. With the cheap version I had performance issues. I run 3770k + 1070 on 1080@60, the utilizations were around 30-35% yet I was lagging and the cursor movement was discontinuous. I played 3 custom Death Match skirmish missions and all of the matches were forfeited by the AI after 15-20 mins. Very freaking annoying. Do you think it is because of the origin of this cheap version or do you experience the same with your original version? Thanks!
Yeah. I'm a little bit disappointed with the new Ai. I'm not saying it's easy because I'm not an AOE god like you, but the AOE team marketed the AI that it uses real strategies from pros, but all it seems to do is fast castle. I've only played half a dozen games against it so small sample size, but it seems to do the same in your games as well.
I used to play long time ago. And I was bad as fuck. But that looked pretty weak?! Even IF he managed to mash red, there where still 3 others. Equally strong as he was...
Viper even gets mentioned in a big German games magazine (Gamestar) as the best player in the world, congrats!
Go Vipey go
Wo denn genau? Video oder Magazin?
@@pascetti3206 Muss Magazin sein, weil hab noch keine Top10 Pro Player video oder so von denen gesehen.
@@ElSeto93 Ist im Testvideo zur DE ;)
he cant even earn gold in tutorial missions :P
"If I success this time, I will straightly jump into 1v7 extreme AI"
-Got outscored by AI while booming
Tfw you're so bad you can't even win a 1v0
ok booming
@@1Benxiix I was looking for this comment...
the disrespect forward mining camp and the trade cart through the middle of Viper's base were epic
And even worse: They did not even reply to the gg!
What time in the video did these two things occur?
@@sadbravesfan I know it's old, but for future watcher: The trade cart 21:32, and the forward mining shortly after.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA and he zoomed in to add in the WTFness
That what you get when you keep taunting the AI in the last game
105
Me at start of video: _Oh wow this will be interesting._
*Spoilers!*
Me after 5 mins: _Oh wait the time of the video seems to indicate..._
And the state at the end of game:
AI: _mines resources in Viper's base, sends Trade Carts through it, does not answer gg_
Chat: *105*
at the start, imay wall but i dont need
at the end, i should have walled
classic
Finally, the AI pull together an epic alliance strong enough to repel the Viperian invander
"If we do win this one convincingly, I am gonna jump straight to a 1 versus 7" - Famous last words
Sun Tzu
told you to never underestimate your enemy.
I was litterally thinking about this video and it popped up.
It's really awesome that they programmed the AI to not just run straight into your town center anymore. AI will be much more fun to fight that way. In the original the game was basically over once you built a castle in the computers face because they would just continuously run pikemen and crossbows into the castle. That alone is a great update.
I reckon the best strats against these sorts of ai is fast castle (because they don;t really attack early). Then create a few stone defenses (because they will just attack castles and stone walls with normal units), then create mobile, archer type units to run around killing villagers and avoid fighting their army with yours at all cost.
The extreme AI is very much capable of drushing.
@@VineFynn but can they douche?
Decoy mills. They hate mills.
@Nathan so like you said above i allways beated 8 of the old extreme AI
In Definitive Edition when setting way points, right clicking without shift at the end (like in HD) actually cancels the set way points and sends the unit straight to where you last clicked (without shift). This has the advantage that you can add way points later on by clicking on the unit and holding shift. But it takes some getting used to. Just wanted to point that out, since the way you're doing it the way points have no effect. ;-)
15:13 when you been playing for 13 hours straight and been hitting the g-fuel a little to much.
Do you still remember about Empire Earth? 11:10 That horse dying sound is similiar to EE1.
exactly!!
i noticed this too
Man, why do you very late commenting?
@@roy-swampy-07 mmm I don’t know maybe because there is people watching videos on RUclips at any time idk
1v4 Extreme AI?? I can't even win vs a normal difficulty
it's DE AI, it's bugged, agains 4AI from HD version, he will lose fast
@@kolysion164 What are you talking about?
He didn't win. He won against HD before in that constellation.
How is it bugged? From all I could see, it manages better than the HD ai.
Great game! Cant wait for the rematch.
well ive seen Nili + Tatoh lose against 6 so i knew what was coming :P
After the 4 Silvers and the Bronze medals in the challenges, what made you think your skills had progressed to this point?
Dayum, just shows how strong the new AI is, just watched a video of the new AI 1v7 the old AI and it held out 30 mins and almost defeated two of the players before the new AI got overwhelmed.
So... 1v7 now? #clearly 11
how about you try 1v1 once babe ;)
Viper: ...and maybe just try to kill one or two of them immediately...
Me: GET YOUR STUPID EAGLES OUT OF MY BASE.
"You can resign now...bitch" - Extreme AI
They should've called of AoE: Crisp Edition. It looks really good.
I knew the verdict as soon as I had seen the title
It's a slim chance to beat two CPU at elite level, let alone 4
Lucky they didn't type 105 (You can resign again taunt) in the chat. That would be very much disrespecc
What means 105
@@srbishkrst watch the previous AI vids.
@@observationduty watch my ass
@@srbishkrst lmao
@@srbishkrst watch you mouth
6:03 why did they revert this change? Miss clicking and losing all resources is so annoying.
Could wish you guys would do a death match like this. Very fast, very demanding, but winnable.
viper why are you a simpson in your thumbnail hahaha
Jump up to seven AI...Viper vs the world.
You were asking for them to surrender in the previous game and now you expect them to say gg?
i think AI i just the best for practicing. Since no one is upset if i decide i wanna remake in the middle of the game or pause.
I like playing vs AI i hope there good AI mod out there .
Wow
I was going to ask you about it
What's the difference between the first and the second score behind the slash?
First score is the individual score for that player, second is the mean of the team they are a part of. The list is sorted first by team mean and then individual.
I find the backseaters in the streams hilarious , as if they knew any better than the best player in the world
@21:51 lmao AI is taunting you at this point
Damn I actually thought you'd win
In AoE2 HD u could Palisade Wall the AI TC in DarkAge, that helps a lot.^^
No way this is the same ai today
Ohh i hope you will bring out Joanna of Orleans MIs. 6... I currentyl have Headaches about that mission xD
Weird to see AI knight raiders focusing on houses. I thought they were smarter than that
You typed *gg this is why they did not answered.
Viper best AOE2 Player Alive!
Viper hates the Vietnamese sound. To quote "They're too loud". I concur wholeheartedly.
A dime for everytime he complains about that. 11
I just realized. My comment was meant for the first video.
#fail
Sorry irrelevant question to the video but how did you get a huge cursor? I unticked the ‘small cursors’ but even then it’s not that much bigger compared to yours
You should try playing against 4 AI by putting them in separate teams: 1 vs 2 vs 2.
Viper +AI. Vs 4AI
The Extreme ai was way harder for a while then it started doing what it does now after an update. FCFCFCFC
Can't wait for the 10th attempt
isn't SHIFT right click a better way to use a scout viper?? i mean. you use ALOT of time to order the scout around. let it run a route and check on the map if you see enemy colors pop up. IF so, straight going to the scout using 1 (must have scout on group 1 for that) i personaly think it gives me time to breath without the constant checking on my darn scouts
i was surprised Viper didn't know the AI always go for fast Castles. And they cheat. The strategy should always be defending until you get a chance to counter attack, unless you have ultra aggressive civs like Japanese in AOE 3. I used to be able to beat 2x5 in AOE 3 using Samurais ASAP to destroy a couple of opponents. Now as Portuguese I had to boom and then turtle.
4 extreme AI (ooo that'll be fun) looks that the video is only 26 minutes long.
Nahhh he got no chance
in 4k Ultra settings looks amazing and i can play in 8 players multi player but is consuming insane amount of ram 27G lol.
the unit responses from stables are too loud, so annoying
Yeah response sounds are poorly mixed, some like mangonel and cav are way too loud. Overall it's awesome though, so many little improvements
Why 3 houses at start? It’s because villages were far apart?
Viper make a video on optimal settings and hotkeys pls
In my opinion, the music could be louder and the voice and effects be lowered. You queue actions too fast and the sound response is quite annoying. I also have a question: why do you play only on the Arabia map? I think it’d be SO fun if the map were to be at random as well. Thanks, I’m loving the videos!
oh come on. i had difficulty beating ONE hard AI and you go against 4 extreme? stop flexing :(
well, he's kind of the best player in the world. That's like dunking a basketball on a 9-foot rim (1 foot lower than regulation) and trying to compare to Vince Carter's Dunk Contest routines.
it looks so smooth while viper is playing while mine is jumping between 150 and 50 fps every other second no matter what settings, are there any fixes yet?
@@goldster100 Yea i did that, and i went to the official site and followed the guide but it didnt solve it, just made it a bit better, i know they are having problems with newer computers atm tho, i just hope its fixed soon
i have got a 2010 toshiba satellite l670 laptop and it just about playable but it very slow moving when I have over 120 people made in the screen. but I cannot buy a newer laptop at this time as I am not working and money is very short. but I do like playing this new version of age of empires 2 de edition
Can't get Gold medal in strategy-guide. Tries to beat 4 extreme AI. What a pleb^^
ikr. Does this noob really expect to win?
The Art of War challenges are very hard actually. The fact that the best player in the world didn't manage to get gold on two scenarii on the first try proves it.
Not even speaking about myself... I had to replay them dozen of times, literally.
@@Nihiliste- You have to consider the fact that he's joking. And, yeah, they are quite hard. I got gold on the first try only on rushing by now... (Haven't finished them all yet though)
@@arshiaaghaei
It's not particularly funny however? Putting down others to feel better about yourself is a pathetic side of human honestly.
@@Nihiliste- Nobody is putting down Viper, he doesn't need to prove himself to anyone. You are taking a joke too seriously. They are just joking about how viper, being the best player, couldn't get gold on all of the challenges first try.
No one is trying to feel better about himself by a joke.
Massive disrespect from the AI.
Fix this Microsoft.
What did they do?
Too bad the creators didn't make it possible for more than 8 players
the AI is wired
we played 2 vs 1 hardes AI and the AI rushed us with 400 military and makes with 100 farmers 5 times more resources than we did with 200 farmers
gold i collected 20.000 and the Ai 50.000 with like 10 people mining it
somehow it seems not everything with the AI is legit
Maybe killing red and then take his base and ressources to make more tc's for booming and then beating his pocket :p
more of this!
I see that he can get the deers to his tc with the scout by clicking on it. If I Rclick with the scout on deers he kills them, is there an option to change it?
nah.. he is just clicking close to them.. so they run away from his scout to the tc :)
Viper is booming on youtube :P
how has the comunity taken to DE? is it worth getting/moving to?
does anyone know what DE graphics settings Viper is running? Mine does not look near as good as his and I have it on high settings
Ultra Graphics Pack DLC
oh my god. this was so sad to watch. so much overconfidence, shattered!
Update / Spoilers:
He even ended up losing the 1v3 against AI.
"I will jump straight into 1v7 extreme AI"
the disrespect trade cart got flavor 11
I think he should made more pikemen.. Becauae ai focus to almost knight and camel..
The Game starts but the CAMPAIGN Crashes!!! Cant even open the campaigns
Awesome performance! Thanks for teaching us a lot.
I just downloaded a *cheap* version of this game before buying from Store. With the cheap version I had performance issues. I run 3770k + 1070 on 1080@60, the utilizations were around 30-35% yet I was lagging and the cursor movement was discontinuous. I played 3 custom Death Match skirmish missions and all of the matches were forfeited by the AI after 15-20 mins. Very freaking annoying. Do you think it is because of the origin of this cheap version or do you experience the same with your original version? Thanks!
1 vs 7 deathmatch with AI :)
I miss you on twitch :(
So do waypoints actually work now ?
AI seems to lack variation in its strategies
You can probably 1v4 if you wall and boom as Britons.
viper playes vs AI because multiplayer is broken
betwixtX what’s wrong w/ it?
yo viper, ur Vanilla / HD Cheats not working here :D
are you canadian, did you speak french ?
love
Can't even beat 1 hard ai 😔
ADD MORE POPULATION = MAKES GAME HARDER!
meanwhile I struggle to beat 1 bot on hard :j
Same lol
Viper should go bald lol
Also ich als Österreicher würde mich freuen, wenn die Videos auf Deutsch kommen. Da mein Englisch nicht das gelbe vom Ei ist ;)
mhh... er als Norweger ist wenigstens schon mal so nett auf englisch zu streamen... besser wirds wohl nicht ^.^
petition for wololo/ayoyoyo mod !!!!
Yeah. I'm a little bit disappointed with the new Ai. I'm not saying it's easy because I'm not an AOE god like you, but the AOE team marketed the AI that it uses real strategies from pros, but all it seems to do is fast castle. I've only played half a dozen games against it so small sample size, but it seems to do the same in your games as well.
Lack of trade is hurting you for sure... If the game allowed it, I'll bet you and 1 other pro could take them 2 v 8.
I would just type black death ez pz
1v7 but no team
I used to play long time ago. And I was bad as fuck.
But that looked pretty weak?! Even IF he managed to mash red, there where still 3 others. Equally strong as he was...
make first TheViper vs 5 Extreme AI, then 6 and then 7 so we get more stuff to watch please
edit: if you win v3 and v4 lol
like a boas ::D
Viper You have my dad in You're friends list he is yasenmf on aoe hd 2
IMO 1v2 was extremely hard once they start, I mean, don't attack them, let them make the first move. It's gona be horribly hard.
Gg
2 moderate bot kill me xd