21. Dateline 1995, 1996, 1997 Minivan IIHS Crash Test.flv

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  • @scpenguinbuddies
    @scpenguinbuddies 8 лет назад +550

    It's funny to see how much car companies bashed iihs in the 90's and now today rely on their reviews for better sales

    • @goober239
      @goober239 8 лет назад +33

      ...come to think of it, the number one killer in the 90s was *[GASP]* car accidents.

    • @aaronries9307
      @aaronries9307 7 лет назад +4

      THE PLOT THICKENS

    • @itswings1543
      @itswings1543 7 лет назад +3

      sam_cesario7 its funny to say they havent done much to change any of this there are only a few that arnt that bad now

    • @bandguymichael
      @bandguymichael 7 лет назад +3

      I wonder if car companies pulled the same shenanigans for the Small Overlap Test

    • @roostersideburns3440
      @roostersideburns3440 7 лет назад +5

      nope. they are redesigning to meet the test

  • @tmanepic
    @tmanepic 6 лет назад +354

    What "tests" did GM carry out for their vehicles, a 5MPH crash into a pile of feathers?

  • @markk3652
    @markk3652 9 лет назад +297

    I wonder.... if you crash a Pontiac into an astro, could you taste each others steering wheel??

    • @willtaboo7386
      @willtaboo7386 8 лет назад +26

      We simply don't talk about tasting each others steering wheels.

    • @Dycgcch
      @Dycgcch 6 лет назад +2

      Mark K funny funny 😂

    • @littlemonkeyvip
      @littlemonkeyvip 6 лет назад +2

      Mark K I

    • @TellurideS13
      @TellurideS13 6 лет назад

      DUMB

    • @kakyeet2568
      @kakyeet2568 5 лет назад +2

      But the Pontiac Transport look that bad

  • @nighthawk6895
    @nighthawk6895 4 года назад +60

    6:45 "This is the worst we've seen, I think."
    Pontiac Trans Sport: "Hold my beer."

  • @glanzera
    @glanzera 4 года назад +168

    The worst part isn't the fact that the Venture did so poorly... it's that GM sold it for 9 years without making a single change to improve it's safety.

    • @keirangreen7004
      @keirangreen7004 3 года назад +1

      Yikes

    • @aidenthecomputernerd
      @aidenthecomputernerd 2 года назад +2

      They did some year to year changes such as the steering wheel design

    • @314jeepsnmopars3
      @314jeepsnmopars3 2 года назад +21

      @@aidenthecomputernerd I'm sure that would stop the structure from collapsing around you like that...

    • @plopping-wetlyacademyofmot9639
      @plopping-wetlyacademyofmot9639 Год назад

      GM and Ford sued the federal government when they started requiring seatbelts and airbags too. They don't give 2 shits about you. Just sell units and make money 💰

    • @amoryerenhouse5535
      @amoryerenhouse5535 Год назад

      GM is a shitty company that doesn't give a damn about the people that are keeping afloat

  • @ZVMoYxMAjTEwAMEb
    @ZVMoYxMAjTEwAMEb 9 лет назад +175

    I love how back then, auto makers were like "yeah, your test is crap because the government doesn't do it. You go too fast and do an unconventional test. BUY OUR CARS because fuck you!"
    Whereas today, the IIHS is embraced by both the government and auto makers. Well done lads!

    • @101Volts
      @101Volts 6 лет назад +4

      Look at the 1956 Ford "Tedy" ads, supposedly people thought it was stupid to have a safe car back then so they avoided the Fords. What, did they think "Oh no, mustn't think about crashing or I'll crash"?
      img1.etsystatic.com/063/1/11038289/il_570xN.773028101_okc6.jpg

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 6 лет назад +4

      actually Ford outsold Chevy in 1957.
      But the irony is that the 57 Chevys (mainly the Bel Air) are considered classics and the 57 Fords are just considered old jalopies.

  • @loganknupp9034
    @loganknupp9034 8 лет назад +234

    And all this damage is at 40 MPH. Just think if it was at 60, 70, or even 80 MPH.

    • @mothra__13
      @mothra__13 7 лет назад +25

      Lexzar Boom and the car makers say 40 mph is too high for testing!

    • @directorjustin
      @directorjustin 7 лет назад +35

      Lexzar Boom I think moderate overlap and small overlap tests should be done at 55 mph, because that's the maximum speed of undivided highways.

    • @Shanesknowledge
      @Shanesknowledge 7 лет назад +7

      sai173 did you see fifth gear crash test on the Ford focus going 120 miles an hour into a wall

    • @iiplaya
      @iiplaya 7 лет назад

      sai173 There’s cars on the road crashing at 185,200,110 and they walked away with none to minor injuries

    • @plexiglass-kz2si
      @plexiglass-kz2si 7 лет назад

      Logan Knupp I was going to say, **the exact same thing** ! 😂😂

  • @TheGoodChap
    @TheGoodChap 9 лет назад +156

    oh my god nostalgia flashbacks... When I was a kid my mom recorded this on our vhs player for me to watch again and again. I was fascinated by car crashes, demolition, other male kid stuff. It's funny we used to watch it so much this guy was like a movie star to me I was a huge fan of Brian O'Neill. I used to lie down in with a pillow on top of my head and have my parents determine that "there's just no room down here. I believe the foot is completely separated from the leg." and "It's not even budging!" Looking back I guess I was a strange kid but my parents thought it was funny.

    • @latvianboy9388
      @latvianboy9388 5 лет назад +4

      Great 2019

    • @titan9259
      @titan9259 4 года назад +13

      I'm also interested in car crash tests, this is why i have BeamNG.drive.

    • @chasechildress2720
      @chasechildress2720 3 года назад +1

      @@titan9259 im playin beam right now.

    • @tsaivanrod1114
      @tsaivanrod1114 3 года назад

      @@titan9259 hi

    • @jmin8400
      @jmin8400 2 года назад +5

      The advent of passenger airbags becoming commonplace in new cars during the mid-1990s, made segments like this conflicting as a masochistic interest for me as a young child.
      I grew past that fear and grew up to crash test them as an engineer professionally, some 20 years later.
      Those early days of kids being decapitated, some smaller or even bigger than me, was mentally scarring as a kid car enthusiast in the 1990s to early 2000s.
      The grainy, sepia or often B&W slow motion 90s reenactments, of these violently exploding billowy pillows into the heads of microsized dummies put the fear of God into me.
      Hearing the child airbag death reports mounting in 1996-97, on nightly news.
      Back then, I couldn't comfortably enjoy sitting in some cars, with the fear inadvertent deployments or potential that an accident could kill me, below the height 5'3 and under 120 lbs.

  • @Ouiquende
    @Ouiquende 11 лет назад +44

    Love the way GM claims the Transport performed very well but they aren't gonna back up the claim with any kind of picture or some kind of footage.

    • @b.t.356
      @b.t.356 Год назад +1

      Someone said that they theorize that GM crash tested into a pile of feathers and I gotta agree

  • @Major_Mason
    @Major_Mason 9 лет назад +55

    This guy who represents the manufacturing of cars is full of shit. He is clearly covering for the POOR, subpar car saftey designs. Thank you IIHS for these videos.

    • @Major_Mason
      @Major_Mason 7 лет назад +6

      How unprofessional and crude can you get kid? As far as I am concerned the man in that video knows no shame if you even know what that means.

    • @sai-tc7wv
      @sai-tc7wv 3 года назад

      i know this is 3 years old but im gonna have to side with uno here

  • @whattheheck1000
    @whattheheck1000 11 лет назад +37

    kylerawks10 These tests were released on November 19, 1996. I am actually watching this to commemorate the 17th anniversary of their release.
    November 18, 2013 9:07 pm

    • @RivieraByBuick
      @RivieraByBuick 2 года назад +2

      I read this almost 10 years later. January 7th 2022 at 16.46

  • @101Volts
    @101Volts 6 лет назад +18

    I'm starting to have a bigger appreciation for the 1977-1989 Chevy Caprice; Father hit a telephone pole in an 84 model in a 45 MPH zone (someone decided to pass cars on a 2 lane road and not yield to him or so it seems, I wasn't there.) He went home from the hospital on the same day and although his knees went through the plastic dashboard and he had seat belt rash and still has issues with his arm, he's alive and can still _walk._ There wasn't any movement of the steering wheel, the pole went in the middle just where the radiator and engine block were.

  • @theTVchannel1000
    @theTVchannel1000 9 лет назад +116

    holy crap, my family had a Toyota pevia for 22 years!
    we never crashed it but it lasted up to 400,000 miles

    • @JacobGamezChannel
      @JacobGamezChannel 9 лет назад +9

      Magic Mike But you can buy a toyota sienna! Ihss said it is the best minivan for saftey

    • @krus180
      @krus180 9 лет назад +3

      steven play roblox i find the mercedes r class the best minivan

    • @JacobGamezChannel
      @JacobGamezChannel 9 лет назад

      Umm Minivan yea umm mercedes dont make minivans but they make vans

    • @krus180
      @krus180 9 лет назад +3

      So what is a mercedes b class then?

    • @krus180
      @krus180 9 лет назад +4

      Btw look up mercedes R class its a sport minivan its for up to 7 people

  • @Kitten2024AbandonedAccount
    @Kitten2024AbandonedAccount 2 года назад +9

    All minivan in america crash test. (40 mph)
    2:38 Ford Winstar
    3:27 Dodge Grand caravan
    4:27 Chevrolet Astro/Gmc Safari
    5:29 Ford Aerostar
    6:35 Toyota Previa
    7:47 Pontiac Transport (Brand new design from general motor)

  • @b.t.356
    @b.t.356 4 года назад +14

    General Motors: our minivans are super safe!
    The IIHS and the mass ignition switch recall: Sure Jan.

  • @whattheheck1000
    @whattheheck1000 4 года назад +19

    Here's a millisecond-by-millisecond comparison between the 2005 Honda Odyssey and the Trans Sport (which, keep in mind, was still sold under the same design as late as 2005 as the Chevy Venture). Two vans, sold new, in the same model year. The '05 Chevy Venture's airbags are a little different in design, but in this crash mode wouldn't make a lick of difference. Besides, the test report I have is of this Trans Sport.
    0 ms: The vans hit the offset barriers.
    27 ms: The Trans Sport's airbag doors rip open, and the front airbags begin to inflate.
    32 ms: The Odyssey's driver seat belt pretensioner activates, tightening the seat belt across the driver's chest.
    36 ms: The Trans Sport's driver airbag slams into the driver's face, probably breaking the nose if it were a real person. This would be the least of his problems.
    48 ms: The Odyssey's steering wheel hub rips open, and the driver airbag begins to inflate. The passenger airbag will not inflate because not enough weight is on the seat.
    52 ms: The Trans Sport's interior begins to structurally collapse. The driver's seat begins to move.
    62 ms: The Odyssey's driver airbag reaches its maximum rearward extent. It never touches the driver, who is at no risk of airbag injury. At the same time, the Trans Sport driver starts moving into the driver airbag.
    70 ms: The Trans Sport driver's legs are being smashed as the footwell intrudes. The left foot is being rapidly rotated upward. The steering wheel is rapidly moving upward.
    76 ms: The Odyssey's driver airbag assumes its fully inflated shape and begins to deflate.
    80 ms: The Trans Sport driver's foot snaps off from the tibia.
    84 ms: The Odyssey driver's head finally meets the inflated driver airbag.
    97 ms: The Trans Sport's steering wheel has been driven through the airbag, and the head gets shoryukened back, straining the neck.
    100 ms: The Odyssey's steering wheel moves back only slightly - less than two inches. This has no effect on the driver's injury measures.
    105 ms: The Trans Sport's headrest hits the driver's head and begins to push down, further straining the neck.
    114 ms: The Odyssey's driver loses his grip on the steering wheel.
    120 ms: The Trans Sport driver's neck gets seriously injured.
    130 ms: The Odyssey's driver reaches the forward-most point of his movement and begins moving back toward the seat. The body and steering wheel never got to meet. At the same time, the Trans Sport driver has assumed his final position.
    230 ms: As the Odyssey driver moves rearward and to the left, the side airbags deploy, preventing the head and chest from hitting anything hard.
    Fortunately, it was only a dummy in the Trans Sport's driver's seat. In real life, if these two vehicles hit head on, the Trans Sport's driver would probably end up unconscious or in severe pain, with life threatening injuries. The Odyssey's driver would come to in a largely intact interior, with the deflated pink airbag hanging out of the ripped open steering wheel hub being the first thing he saw, and the strong smell of burning rubber from the airbag propellant. His injuries would probably consist of a few cuts and bruises. It would be whoever was in the Odyssey who would call for help and/or try to assist the driver of the Trans Sport. All I can say is, whoever gets hit head on in one of these death-trap minivans, I hope you survive.
    March 17, 2020 6:26 am

    • @rileysmith9843
      @rileysmith9843 4 года назад +2

      There would be a similar result in the Astro, Aerostar, and Previa, where the Odyssey driver would have to try to assist the driver in any of those three vehicles.

    • @0w3nn
      @0w3nn 11 месяцев назад

      Well duh, the trans port is the worst performer the institute has ever seen

  • @richardthefox3412
    @richardthefox3412 4 года назад +76

    I’m Surprised that the Pontiac Trans Port doesn't have a legendary meme status for how unsafe it is, because it totally deserves it.

    • @MenschGusti
      @MenschGusti 2 года назад +5

      It has. I’m in a discord server where everybody finds that funny

    • @davidpark761
      @davidpark761 2 года назад +1

      there are cars from the 70s that would literally explode from being rear ended

    • @fascinationwithtoilets
      @fascinationwithtoilets 2 года назад

      My friend group calls them deathtrap mobiles lol

    • @SCREAMILLUSION
      @SCREAMILLUSION Год назад +1

      @@davidpark761 Uh one wasn't it? The Ford Pinto.

    • @MatureHorror509
      @MatureHorror509 Год назад

      ​@@SCREAMILLUSION yes

  • @mst3kanita
    @mst3kanita 9 лет назад +28

    These were my favorite things to watch on mbnbc during the weekends before I had the internet.

  • @sonicfan4242
    @sonicfan4242 10 лет назад +47

    to think that i actually rode in a pontiac trans sport everyday at on point in my childhood... scary shit

    • @jtb1990419
      @jtb1990419 10 лет назад +4

      Me too. A blue '99 Montana. One of the biggest pieces of you know what we ever had. Leaked oil and coolant and the interior started falling apart at 50,000 miles. Glad we got rid of it.

    • @bjthedjdutchdude1992
      @bjthedjdutchdude1992 6 лет назад +2

      We had a 1st gen Pontiac Trans Sport. I loved how the interior was shaped from looking back to the front.

    • @hoofaa17
      @hoofaa17 6 лет назад +2

      Same my mom drove a '97 Chevy Venture for 15 years with 130k miles. A lot of issues with that van and we sold it in 2011. So glad we got rid of it!

    • @zoitaaaa
      @zoitaaaa 3 месяца назад

      Same for me with the Caravan! Seeing them now the pillars are so thin for such a vehicle! Add to that ours didn’t have seatbelts 🤭🤭 It’s so strange to think that before the internet was widespread, people were driving very dangerous and deadly vehicles and they thought because it has seatbelts it is safe!

  • @johnpaulson3398
    @johnpaulson3398 8 лет назад +137

    We don't talk about gm vans

    • @loganknupp9034
      @loganknupp9034 8 лет назад +2

      LOL! I'm dead,

    • @aaronries9307
      @aaronries9307 7 лет назад +10

      I don't talk about GM at all.

    • @proto718
      @proto718 7 лет назад +6

      Johnny Paulson I owned 2 Astros and 1 safari. Thank God no accidents. I was kinda shocked of the results.

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 7 лет назад +5

      Indeed. Unreliable, underpowered, terrible fuel economy, and unsafe.

    • @thegameshowgeek
      @thegameshowgeek 6 лет назад

      I’ll keep my Hyundai over those piles of rubbish

  • @2019Q7Quattro
    @2019Q7Quattro 4 месяца назад +1

    Back when I was younger my mom owned a 1996 Windstar, and it was fully loaded and good lord was it nice, she drove that thing until it hit 363,000 miles! That shows that the first generation Windstar was reliable and safe! I bought it from her a few years ago and although I only use it to get groceries and drive to my mom’s house, it still runs like it’s new, I fixed the rust on the surface and repainted it to make it look new. I love that Windstar.

  • @maximilianoluera6679
    @maximilianoluera6679 5 лет назад +26

    my favorite part is when they’re talking about the astro and the reporter says “what if this had been a woman, shorter, and lighter?” then immediately cuts to a frame that shows that she is taller than o’neil

    • @FrozenDount13
      @FrozenDount13 Год назад +2

      Lmao!! You're right!! That's so funny! (5:09)

  • @_multiverse_
    @_multiverse_ 6 лет назад +18

    The Windstar I was hauled around as a kid may have had a shitty unreliable power train but at least it was safe.

  • @raykuipers688
    @raykuipers688 7 лет назад +51

    typical GM. denying there is a problem with their vehicles

    • @cjiekel668
      @cjiekel668 5 лет назад +1

      Ray Kuipers my mom is a ford fan so ya

  • @Max-nu1bd
    @Max-nu1bd 7 лет назад +8

    Looking at these crash tests has made me appreciate newer cars a bit more, especially me involved in a crash with crumple zones, seatbelt and airbags. I just wish the older vehicles from the 80's and 90's had the same safety measures

  • @mikewillis9108
    @mikewillis9108 6 лет назад +12

    I'm so glad my parents had volvos when we were growing up, and didn't buy into the minivan craze in the 90s and 00s. The Volvo isn't as easy to get in and out of with kids or as big as a minivan, but volvo, Saab, and Mercedes were the only ones that really cared about safety back then. these companies spared no expense when building safe cars, while everyone else was trying to cut costs even at the expense of safety, but trying to meet the bare minimum standards.

  • @chasechildress2720
    @chasechildress2720 3 года назад +14

    Wonder if he traded the previa in for a windstar.

  • @whattheheck1000
    @whattheheck1000 4 года назад +22

    It's insane to think of how unsafe that GM minivan design is, how behind the times it is. Keep in mind that this was a brand new design, sold all the way until 2005! If it was this bad - far worse than even the second-worst performer - at launch, just imagine how bad it was by 2005!
    The Toyota Previa - a van with a very short front end and an old design at this time - did much better than the GM minivan. So did the Mazda MPV, which had a structural design dating back to 1989! IIHS rates on a "demerit" system. 0-3 is good, 4-9 acceptable, 10-15 marginal, 16 or more poor. The Windstar came away perfectly, no demerits. The Chrysler minivans got 11 demerits. Every other van, 11-16 demerits. The Aerostar, 18 demerits. The Previa, 26 demerits (it was second worst). The GM minivans got a whopping *40* demerits! Most poor-performing vehicles were getting less than 25! This death trap, a brand new design, got 40 demerits while most vans with designs 5-10 years older were getting less than half that!
    And you have to keep in mind that this van was THE LAST of these designs in production! All the others were replaced with safer versions years before the GM minivans were!
    By 2005, this van was a pathetic joke. Who in their right mind bought a brand new 2005 Chevy Venture? None of the other '05 minivans got even 10 demerits. Most were getting good ratings, in fact the Toyota Sienna and Honda Odyssey got no demerits at all. The Odyssey's performance was so good that that same body style of van got a Top Safety Pick in 2008 and 2009! I would love to see a van-to-van, 40 mph offset of an '05 Odyssey vs. an '05 Chevy Venture.
    March 17, 2020 5:39 am

    • @rileysmith9843
      @rileysmith9843 4 года назад +1

      The 2001 Dodge Grand Caravan/Chrysler Town & Country failed because the gas tank leaked. The 2002-07 models went to an acceptable because of a design change.

    • @FrozenDount13
      @FrozenDount13 Год назад +3

      Even though the Ford Areostar did poorly, It's design dated back to 1986, With the only design change being front airbags in 1992.Yet This brand-new Transport 11 years later did 10 times worse

    • @whattheheck1000
      @whattheheck1000 Год назад +1

      @@FrozenDount13 Exactly. The structural design of the Aerostar was better than a van 11 years newer, and car safety in general progressed a lot between the 1986 and 1997 model years. So basically, GM sold a minivan that had a structural design that was deficient by 1986 standards… in 2005, when people born in 1986 could drive!
      It never ceases to amaze me how bad that design was. By the time the Venture went out of production in June 2005, I was 12 and my family had a 2001 Toyota Highlander as our family hauler, which we bought used for less than the price of a new Venture. It would have shredded a Venture in a crash.
      April 3, 2023 11:03 am

    • @hakeemsd70m
      @hakeemsd70m 2 месяца назад

      The Previa did very poorly, with the steering column going into the ceiling, slack in the seat belt, and broken legs. Not to mention a significant head injury from the steering wheel smacking the face of the driver.

    • @hakeemsd70m
      @hakeemsd70m 2 месяца назад

      ​@@whattheheck1000Not so fast. In both the Chevy Astro and Ford Aerostar, the floor wad rammed back 15 inches, trapping the feet of the driver.

  • @whattheheck1000
    @whattheheck1000 4 года назад +11

    This generation of GM minivans is so unsafe that it's become legendary.
    August 17, 2020 2:57 am

  • @GiordanDiodato
    @GiordanDiodato 7 лет назад +51

    20 years later...
    GM and Ford are out of the minivan business (good riddance since their minivans were kinda crap... except for the Freestar and Monterey, maybe)
    Kia's entered the fray
    Hyundai had a Minivan, but was discontinued due to slow sales
    Chrysler has their new minivan out right now
    Toyota has the Sienna
    Honda has the amazing Odyssey
    Nissan's Quest is one of the worst performers

    • @pentium4guy639
      @pentium4guy639 6 лет назад +5

      I have a 90 Astro, never let me and my family down and reliable and outlasted my aunts 2013 honda odyssey. The 1st gen astros were built like tanks. But I still see them on the roads today, thats to show you how reliable they are.

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 6 лет назад

      +Sloth Demon
      but they're unreliable and get terrible mileage.

    • @BigWheel.
      @BigWheel. 6 лет назад +2

      Well chrysler did invent the minivan essentially, with the caravan back in the 80s.
      I don't think they'll ever stop making them until popularity of that class dies completely

    • @captainredneck0683
      @captainredneck0683 6 лет назад +2

      Except the Freestar couldn't keep transmissions in them. There was a massive recall regarding it.

    • @brianhobbins3612
      @brianhobbins3612 6 лет назад +2

      Giordan Diodato the Aerostar is extremely deformable and slow and crumbles like my cookies

  • @JSGirl09able
    @JSGirl09able 3 года назад +11

    When Dateline was so much more than true crime stories.

  • @plexiglass-kz2si
    @plexiglass-kz2si 7 лет назад +32

    11:25, there's *never* a "Too fast" for a car crash

    • @RivieraByBuick
      @RivieraByBuick 2 года назад +1

      No there is. For instance crash at 60 mph into a 100% overlap barrier is fatal disregarding the vehicle crumple zone performance. Human internals experience deadly force decelerating 60-0 in 0.1 seconds.

  • @tristanha.9413
    @tristanha.9413 7 лет назад +3

    Its good to hear that parents are safe and good drivers

  • @AnNguyen-cd3ny
    @AnNguyen-cd3ny 8 лет назад +19

    At least it isn't the Brilliance BS6..... XD

  • @jordysrevenge
    @jordysrevenge 10 лет назад +52

    2:15 BeamNG in real life.

    • @harumafif4411
      @harumafif4411 7 лет назад +6

      streetracer111 yes,you are right because there is no airbag

    • @JaZoN_XD
      @JaZoN_XD 6 лет назад +1

      Real life in BeamNG

    • @artym5560
      @artym5560 4 года назад

      2 legrans

  • @MAXIMUSGAMEPLAY563
    @MAXIMUSGAMEPLAY563 6 лет назад +5

    12:35 Result Of Car
    Good Rating:
    Ford Windstar
    Marginal Rating:
    Mazda Mpv
    Dodge Grand Caravan
    Honda Odyssey
    Nissan quest
    Poor Rating:
    Chevrolet Astro
    Ford Aerostar
    Toyota Previa
    Pontiac Trans Sport
    Oldsmobile Silhouette
    Chevrolet Venture

  • @elivyondanimations
    @elivyondanimations 5 лет назад +8

    Wtf did GM do when they tested the transport. Crash them to a stack of pillows in 1 mph!?!

  • @LNERMallard
    @LNERMallard 10 лет назад +24

    Windstar may have been the safest, but too bad it was unreliable as shit. I see tons more Caravans, Astros, and even Previas still on the road today from this era than I do Windstars.

    • @spiffcats
      @spiffcats 9 лет назад +5

      Yah man, the good old astro never dies. Mines at 430.000 and still running good.

    • @LNERMallard
      @LNERMallard 9 лет назад +6

      spiffcats Yep, toughest damn vans on the road.

    • @scottthewaterwarrior
      @scottthewaterwarrior 9 лет назад +4

      LNER Mallard I don't know, I have a 98 Windstar and it has always been pretty reliable. It has had its far share of problems, but not anymore then the other cars we've owned. There are quite a few Windstars still on the road around me as well, only other old van I see that much is 1st generation Sienas. IDK, it might just be because I have a Windstar, I've got a SAAB convertible now too and suddenly those are everywhere too!

    • @spiffcats
      @spiffcats 9 лет назад +2

      scottthewaterwarrior
      If you drive something you think about it, so you notice it. For example when i get a dodge shadow i started noticing them.

    • @The_Ballo
      @The_Ballo 9 лет назад

      +LNER Mallard Or off the road 👹

  • @josesantana2982
    @josesantana2982 8 лет назад +17

    And now in days the safest minivans are the Honda Odyssey & Kia's Sedona. Toyota hasn't gotten that title in awhile & they claim to be the "best".

    • @dominikw4219
      @dominikw4219 8 лет назад

      Jose Santana nope, Toyota has made it like a million times

    • @josesantana2982
      @josesantana2982 8 лет назад

      Not now it hasn't

    • @dominikw4219
      @dominikw4219 8 лет назад

      Jose Santana ya it has, 2015 Toyota sienna has made it into safest minivans.

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 7 лет назад

      Kia's Sedona also did pretty well in it.

    • @4nciite
      @4nciite 5 лет назад +1

      Toyota only has 2 top safety pick plus vehicles in 2019, Hyundai has 12

  • @InvestBetter.
    @InvestBetter. 4 года назад +5

    4:37 I always wanted to know what a steering wheel tastes like.....
    8:33 Like a steering wheel necklace

  • @Sinklaw
    @Sinklaw 10 лет назад +3

    Great minivans provide balance of comfort, convenience, versatility, and road manners. However, they also need to be safe and reliable. Dateline did a good job with this helpful news piece.
    Not Legal Advice. For information only. Please consult with an attorney for legal advice.

  • @dynasty0019
    @dynasty0019 6 лет назад +5

    Yay Ford Windstar rules! It was the travel/commuter/everyday car for my family for many years.

    • @axelyn6856
      @axelyn6856 4 года назад

      Dateline said it got a good rating but it good ah acceptable

  • @francoisd6942
    @francoisd6942 2 года назад +3

    11:29 an ultra-hugh test at 40 miles per hour . This is tragically hilarious.

  • @rileysmith9843
    @rileysmith9843 4 года назад +3

    3:33 Just 5 years later, the Grand Caravan would get a Poor rating due to the fuel tank leaking.

    • @titan9259
      @titan9259 3 года назад

      But then it was retested and got an acceptable

  • @robertetzenhouser
    @robertetzenhouser 5 лет назад +3

    They should buy a used Trans Sport and test it today, that would be really cool.

  • @brianc5537
    @brianc5537 4 года назад +6

    It’s 2020 and the Nissan Quest is still a death trap. While others have surpassed it in safety.

    • @keithkcarter150
      @keithkcarter150 Месяц назад

      it meets or exceeds government safety standards so it can be on the road the iihs isn't ran by the government and plus the nissan quest and chrysler town and country were not built to pass the test and at the time, and plus the small overlap crash test was new so every car brand had one bad performer just because it fails a crash test that is not required by the government does not mean its dangerous if a car fails the nhtsa crash test then the car can't be on the road so please understand all the cars on the road are safe if they weren't then they can't sell it and they would sue the pants off of the car brand

  • @titan9259
    @titan9259 4 года назад +11

    Ford Windstar: Good
    Dodge Grand Caravan: Marginal
    Chevrolet Astro/GMC Safari: Poor
    Ford Aerostar: Poor
    Honda Odyssey/Isuzu Oasis: Marginal
    Pontiac Transport/Montana/Opel/Vauxhall Sintra/ Chevrolet Venture/Oldsmobile Silhouette: Poor
    Toyota Previa: Poor
    Mazda MPV: Marginal

  • @jag7371
    @jag7371 6 лет назад +9

    Remember: the Toyota Previa is mid engine, RWD.

    • @hakeemsd70m
      @hakeemsd70m 5 лет назад +2

      True. And the Chevy Astro/GMC Safari was introduced for the 1985 model year, in an era before widely known American offset crash tests.

    • @asfitube
      @asfitube 3 года назад

      @@hakeemsd70m they started in 1993s so you are correct

    • @hakeemsd70m
      @hakeemsd70m 3 года назад

      @@asfitube I didn't know that, thank you for sharing that with me. Was always curious as to when they started the offset test.

    • @jmin8400
      @jmin8400 3 года назад

      @@asfitube Nope, late 1994/early 1995.

    • @jmin8400
      @jmin8400 3 года назад +1

      @@hakeemsd70m Ignore that, it was MY 1995, not 1993.

  • @seankurth4371
    @seankurth4371 7 лет назад +1

    It's of course obvious that all of these are horrendous deathtraps by modern standards. But coming from an era when automakers other than Volvo and Mercedes had only just started to care about serious safety equipment that worked for purposes other than producing appealing ad copy, I'm fairly impressed. As recently as surviving a crash had stopped being a luxury item at that point, it's impressive how far they'd come. Rewind 10 year further back and every vehicle in this segment crumples like a tin can the way Indian cars do today and severely injures everyone inside at highway speeds. Rewind 20 years back and designing cars for crash safety wasn't even really on the radar. Ditto compact cars and economy sedans, I wouldn't want to be within 20 feet of an 80s Chevy Cavalier whether it's running or not, and 70s cab forward vans frequently left moderate speed crashes without much of a passenger compartment in front of the driver's seat at all. Believe it or not, all of the cars in this test, as bad as they look, vastly exceed whatever owners at the time were upgrading from in that the only occupant likely to be killed is the driver.

  • @PorterTheFanCollector
    @PorterTheFanCollector Год назад +1

    The 1984 Toyota Van would've done even worse than the Previa. I will still buy a Previa as long as I pay very precise attention on the road.

  • @DNIHelixUSN
    @DNIHelixUSN 8 лет назад +4

    11:15 listen to whats said, too fast? See in this day and age we have dash cams and if you look at the majority of them, someone is Hot Headed and is SPEEDING right into someone else! I hope this is type of test is mandatory today.

    • @lizzsszzy7800
      @lizzsszzy7800 6 лет назад

      It still is conducted today with new cars. They have a new, harder test called the small-overlap.

    • @Fenncer24
      @Fenncer24 5 лет назад

      DNIHelixUSN
      Yes you are right about how fast people are going. Where I live drivers go at least 10 mph over the posted speed and just up the street from my apartment drivers are racing each other easily going 20 mph over the posted speed. Also just look at the crosses on the side of the road and intersections.

  • @jdmparty2077
    @jdmparty2077 3 месяца назад

    Minivans crash test at 40 mph (64 km/h)
    3:27 Dodge Grand Caravan
    4:26 Chevrolet Astro/GMC Safari
    5:28 Ford Aerostar
    6:34 Toyota Previa
    7:47 Pontiac Transport

  • @WilliePeck
    @WilliePeck 11 лет назад +25

    Umm excuse me 40 MPH to high speed of a crash test?!?!?!? That's how fast the cars in city's are usually FORCED to drive at BY LAW!!! What do they test them at 10 MPH?!?!?!

    • @fari1830
      @fari1830 9 лет назад +3

      10 MPH is for bumper test

    • @Y10Q
      @Y10Q 9 лет назад +3

      Willie Peck
      you have to be asleep to crash at 70mph on the highways, or suicidal. Generally 70mph-40mph takes a second or two if you are paying attention. Most cars will stop from 70 to 0 in 4 seconds. In the city you are doing 45-55 mph, and if you crash it's generally at 10-20mph unless you are suicidal or asleep.

    • @WilliePeck
      @WilliePeck 9 лет назад +2

      Y10Q now it all makes sense but you forgot to add people tweeting on iPhones lol. I cringe every time I see that.

  • @markbundy4869
    @markbundy4869 2 года назад +1

    The driver of that Chevy Astro is eating that air bag right now

  • @Daveelerre
    @Daveelerre Год назад +3

    Never buy a car until you see one of these videos.

    • @xGLITCHGAMINGx
      @xGLITCHGAMINGx Год назад

      1/4 star safety rating, no airbags, we still zoomin👌

  • @B0xlife1
    @B0xlife1 Месяц назад +1

    11:25 "I would have to say that these tests are at or done it ultra high speeds". Lol since when is 40 miles an hour a ultra high speed? A great question he should have been asked is would he feel safe letting his kids or wife or family have one of these as a daily driver for doing everything the family does?
    Btw he's paid from the car manufacturer's themselves so basically if he said they we're anything but safe, then he'd essentially be trashing his employer and loosing his livelihood, (back in the 90s of course).
    So yeah hes bias.

  • @215alessio
    @215alessio 7 лет назад +1

    ah the 90's the last decade when crash tests were spectacular

  • @Infamousdee240
    @Infamousdee240 3 года назад +1

    What about the dustbuster pontiac trans sport / lumina apv / silhouette?? They were still out around that time .. what was the crash test rating for those ?

    • @francoisd6942
      @francoisd6942 2 года назад

      I dont think you watched the whole video

    • @Infamousdee240
      @Infamousdee240 2 года назад

      @@francoisd6942 wym ? They’re the gen before this transport , even tho they were still making dustbusters in 97

  • @bbruce995
    @bbruce995 8 лет назад +8

    what the car companies are saying is, we dont care what happens to you, if it costs us more to make them safer, than thats not in our budget

    • @101Volts
      @101Volts 6 лет назад

      Glad we have a good relationship with the car companies, aren't we?

  • @user-lj4zw1rv9i
    @user-lj4zw1rv9i 7 лет назад +5

    Wow. What a shame Ford discontinued the Windstar. That was a great minivan

    • @cjiekel668
      @cjiekel668 7 лет назад +1

      Don't forget the freestar and Aerostar decontinued

  • @wesleyditchko8376
    @wesleyditchko8376 Год назад +3

    Everyone: Fords are Auful CHEAPLY MADE!! BREAKS EASLY!!!
    Ford: would you rather die in a Pontiac?

  • @maximilianoluera6679
    @maximilianoluera6679 8 лет назад +18

    My dad had an astro, glad he sold the piece of shit before I was born.

    • @mwr-dw2ff
      @mwr-dw2ff 8 лет назад

      Maximiliano Luera lmao what does he drive now?

    • @maximilianoluera6679
      @maximilianoluera6679 8 лет назад

      DogLover0124 2013 explorer

    • @TechnologySpotlight
      @TechnologySpotlight 7 лет назад

      My friends dad has a Astro and his grandparents has a Safari.

    • @slayori.designs
      @slayori.designs 7 лет назад

      Technology Spotlight My friend's family owns 3 Astros

    • @TechnologySpotlight
      @TechnologySpotlight 7 лет назад

      Kind of glad my friends dad sold it and bought a Ford Fusion.

  • @randy109
    @randy109 8 лет назад +15

    After watching over 100 Crash Tests and reading many reviews from different sources I came to a conclusion. The tiny "Smart Car" has a basic Roll Cage or hard shell to protect the occupants because they have no room for any significant 'crumple zones' to absorb G-forces. The safest cars/trucks/vans all have side curtain airbags. If you built a full sized car/truck/van with the Roll Cage like the Smart Cars AND made side curtain Airbags and Seatbelt Pretensioners mandatory it would save thousands of Lives per year. Of course the price of new vehicles would have to increase to pay for this level of Safety. It might be worth doing, only if the price is not too high. We know HOW to do it, but do we have the will to do it?

    • @Max-nu1bd
      @Max-nu1bd 7 лет назад +1

      randy109 I agree, and have been thinking about a roll cage installation myself. Would feel 1000x better driving than I do now

    • @nolanpatrickmvp4005
      @nolanpatrickmvp4005 5 лет назад

      It just costs too much right now, like tons more it's to bad your so right.

  • @amoryerenhouse5535
    @amoryerenhouse5535 Год назад +1

    Back when TV was still using analog, even though I was really little and dont really remember analog, something about seeing the analog just makes me feel nostalgic or deja vu, simpler times, back when the video wasnt crystal clear and women all sounded the same and men all sounded the same

  • @Powerlinx88
    @Powerlinx88 2 года назад

    why were there 2 nissan quests? one was red the other was green! was there a malfunction with the grren one or the dummy?

  • @ronnievedinvlogsakaronvedi6726
    @ronnievedinvlogsakaronvedi6726 8 лет назад +1

    I wonder if like if they say chevy astro aka gmc safari does that mean it has the same damage

    • @Peach-ok9zl
      @Peach-ok9zl 6 лет назад

      Ronnie Vedin vlogs aka ron vedin it just means it a slightly different design and under a different name but the same structure

  • @ThatCarGuy174
    @ThatCarGuy174 Год назад +1

    6:43 Bro hit us 💀

  • @RhinoXpress
    @RhinoXpress 10 лет назад +6

    here is the problem with the iihs and the gov crash testing. they are running cars into a concrete barrier to simulate another car. in the real world when two actual cars hit each other both cars absorb the impact. in the iihs and gov test on the other hand, they crash a car into concrete barrier and the car has to absorb all of the impact. that's not an accurate assessment of real world crashes, because the vast majority of the time when a car crashes, it's the result of crashing into another car and both cars are absorbing the impact and not crashing into something that doesn't absorb an impact. 2:20 is a prime example of what would happen in a real world crash. both gm cars that crashed into each other had their occupant compartment fairly intact, because both cars absorbed each others impact, but if you ran both of those gm cars into a concrete wall, more then likelky the occupant compartment would have been crushed due to the fact that the car itself would have to absorb all the impact. So just because a car fairs poor running into a concrete wall doesn't mean it would fair poor if it hit another car in which most real world crashes occur that way anyhow.

  • @axelyn6856
    @axelyn6856 4 года назад

    It’s really cool how you know all cars relatives

  • @sirot5561
    @sirot5561 7 лет назад +1

    Wow the Astro totally buckled. The Aerostar steering wheel snapping off is so dangerous and let’s not even mention the Transport. It speaks for itself

    • @CaydenLudlow
      @CaydenLudlow 6 лет назад

      I thought my screen had a bug on it lol

  • @DerangedSloth555
    @DerangedSloth555 12 лет назад +3

    You see, they make the passengers as the crumple zones.

  • @jonathancheshire4839
    @jonathancheshire4839 7 лет назад +8

    The ford windstar saved my life

    • @cjiekel668
      @cjiekel668 7 лет назад +2

      Jonathan Cheshire same my mom owned a windstar it's a 2002

    • @markk3652
      @markk3652 4 года назад

      My Dodge Grand Caravan SE saved my life. Every time I'd drive it downtown Chicago, whenever a carjacker approached to steal it, just before grabbing the doorhandle to presumably pull me out and drive away, they'd get this look on their face. A look like they had just drank vinegar, instead of icewater. Then they'd run away. Man, that was a great van!

  • @iggibars
    @iggibars 11 лет назад +1

    There's a difference between measuring speed, and rate of energy at impact. If 2 cars are traveling at 20mpg **towards each other**, they are covering ground at ~40mph combined. The damage is not double because both cars absorb each others energy on impact. The key thing here is rate of speed. In which scenario will two people meet each other quicker- two people running at each other, or one running while the other waits? Obviously the first one.

    • @RivieraByBuick
      @RivieraByBuick 2 года назад

      That is why the barrier in this test was soft.

  • @ConservativeCoinCollector
    @ConservativeCoinCollector 3 года назад +3

    The Pontiac Trans Port is the worst crash test that IIHS has ever preformed. The 2001 Ford f150 is a close second but the Trans Port is worse.

    • @francoisd6942
      @francoisd6942 2 года назад

      These test were done with onl the driver. usually these vans transpoort as much as 6 or 7 people adding over 12000 pounds to the inertial energy

    • @ConservativeCoinCollector
      @ConservativeCoinCollector 2 года назад

      @@francoisd6942 Which makes the crash that much worse. That's real chilling.

  • @StevenDrumsYEEHAW
    @StevenDrumsYEEHAW 4 года назад +1

    After the Trans Sport test, IIHS said that the Pontiac Trans Sport was the worst performer we have ever tested, with potentially fatal injuries for the driver. Brian O'Neill noted that this crash could have proven fatal for a human occupant. I would never drive that vehicle, EVER because of this!

  • @harumafif4411
    @harumafif4411 7 лет назад +1

    4:59 that's like a terror

  • @VihaanJoshi-v7e
    @VihaanJoshi-v7e 11 месяцев назад +2

    Imagine Nissan quest vs Pontiac trans sport 😂

    • @themobkiller6799
      @themobkiller6799 6 месяцев назад

      The trans sport will completely crumple lol

  • @EthanUzzle
    @EthanUzzle 7 лет назад +2

    It was a little funny to see the steering wheel fall out when they opened the door.

  • @ieatwhatigrow8218
    @ieatwhatigrow8218 7 лет назад +1

    I was Very surprised the WinStar came out on top!

  • @soyeldiego4878
    @soyeldiego4878 6 лет назад +1

    I recall my wife wanting a mini van back in the mid 90s. I told her you have to see this video and prove to her that they were unsafe. We bought a an SUV instead.

    • @jmin8400
      @jmin8400 3 года назад

      @@based_kujoproductions Exactly, but not surprised he was that ignorant

  • @Elificial
    @Elificial 2 года назад

    What test did gm do a test of 2 mph bumper crash? Is that where the Iihs get the bumper test and what happened with the Sewell not separating is it because the put strength.

    • @TheMW2informer
      @TheMW2informer 2 года назад +1

      You literally just copying the top comment LMFAO

    • @Elificial
      @Elificial 2 месяца назад

      @@TheMW2informerfrr😊

    • @Elificial
      @Elificial 2 месяца назад

      @@TheMW2informerfr😊

  • @ethan-jy4ld
    @ethan-jy4ld 8 лет назад +21

    I would test at 65 mph.

  • @amoryerenhouse5535
    @amoryerenhouse5535 Год назад +1

    Luckily, the Astro and Savannah were mostly sold as cargo vans and occasionally sold as passenger vans, not minivans

  • @cjiekel668
    @cjiekel668 5 лет назад +2

    Ford is always be unstoppable

  • @spehammond
    @spehammond 6 лет назад +2

    Omg my family had a Toyota previa for years and my dad fell asleep while driving it once when we were in driving in France on a mountain road and we were bouncing of the barrier 😳

  • @JoeyLovesTrains
    @JoeyLovesTrains 8 лет назад +1

    Honestly makes me feel safe that my parents drove me in a 2001 ford Windstar.

    • @cjiekel668
      @cjiekel668 7 лет назад

      JoeyLovesTrains my mom had a 2002 ford windstar

    • @CarringtonHollister
      @CarringtonHollister Год назад

      @@cjiekel668my sister had a 2002 Windstar

  • @Jzs20
    @Jzs20 6 лет назад +4

    @ 7:30 "and now he is selling it" "I don't want my family in one of these things"
    yea, so let some other family get crushed and possibly killed...

    • @dextertreehorn
      @dextertreehorn 6 лет назад +4

      PhillyJosh, at their free will.

    • @bananaguy7891
      @bananaguy7891 5 лет назад

      What would you have done?

    • @lelandalvarez8940
      @lelandalvarez8940 4 года назад

      All 1998-2003 Toyota Sienna cars: Ye boy we gonna get popular!

  • @VectraQS
    @VectraQS 6 лет назад

    8:12 Look at that. "The slow motion film" -- which is actual, physical film. Of course, for the time, physical film (probably something like 16mm) was best for super slow motion applications.
    Today, you can shoot slow motion (though maybe not as slow as that) with a smartphone.

    • @bananaguy7891
      @bananaguy7891 5 лет назад

      VectraQS yeah. They used physical film at 5k frames per minute.

  • @amoryerenhouse5535
    @amoryerenhouse5535 Год назад +1

    For the Previa - Thats what happens when you put the engine in the middle of the car and put barely anything in the front, just look at cabovers, even when the driver is higher, its still dangerous

  • @slayori.designs
    @slayori.designs 7 лет назад +2

    6:50 dat wiper doe

  • @ViceCityMasta
    @ViceCityMasta 8 лет назад

    Where's the Mazda MPV crash test footage/pictures?

  • @TheChief005
    @TheChief005 6 лет назад

    Good that GM redesigned the Pontiac trans port in 2005 and that version got a good rating

  • @petergilbert144
    @petergilbert144 8 лет назад +4

    The Dodge looks better in this test than it does today.

  • @4nciite
    @4nciite 5 лет назад

    An old couple in a 1994 Caravan ran a red light and t-boned a 2012 Toyota Sienna flipping the Sienna over twice, the old couple immediately got out and walked over to see if the people in the Sienna were alright, unfortunately the couple and their three kids were seriously injured and had to be cut out of the van and airlifted, I never found out if anyone in the van survived. The body on frame Caravan was still driveable surprisingly.

    • @hakeemsd70m
      @hakeemsd70m 4 года назад +1

      I find it hard to I believe this story...

  • @MatthewTheCCMA
    @MatthewTheCCMA Год назад +1

    I cannot believe they think a 40 mile an hour crash is a fast speed. 99% of my commute to work is 55 miles an hour, so what they are telling me is no matter what my car will not protect me. G and look for any excuse to deny issues with their vehicles.

    • @xGLITCHGAMINGx
      @xGLITCHGAMINGx Год назад +1

      I think they are just going by average crash speeds,. The highest speed limits around the time this was recorded were 55-65mph, since then they’ve been raised up to 85mph in some places in the states. And even the safest modern cars would still be demolished at those speeds.

    • @MatthewTheCCMA
      @MatthewTheCCMA Год назад

      @@xGLITCHGAMINGx Fair!!

  • @ronnievedinvlogsakaronvedi6726
    @ronnievedinvlogsakaronvedi6726 8 лет назад +2

    I wonder why they didn't show all the vans tested

    • @elivyondanimations
      @elivyondanimations 6 лет назад +1

      Ronnie Vedin vlogs aka ron vedin maybe they didn’t have enough time to show the Honda Odyssey, Nissan Quest, And Mazda MPV in Dateline.

  • @lizzsszzy7800
    @lizzsszzy7800 8 лет назад +20

    40 MPH isn't fast at all!

    • @cnrred41
      @cnrred41 8 лет назад +4

      your right its not highway they should rename it IIRS

    • @nicodo123
      @nicodo123 8 лет назад +3

      For a highway, yes it is fast. But for a freeway, it's really slow.

    • @whatwhatwhat79
      @whatwhatwhat79 7 лет назад

      dogeified And yet, the Transport got crushed.

    • @AdamSmith-gs2dv
      @AdamSmith-gs2dv 7 лет назад +2

      Most undivided roads (not interstates) have speed limits between 35 and 55 MPH.

    • @justenzo6342
      @justenzo6342 6 лет назад

      Nicodo123 it's not a highway one. It's for like head on collisions on back roads

  • @RivieraByBuick
    @RivieraByBuick 2 года назад +1

    7:29 "when i saw the results of this vehicle i decided to sell it, let someone else die in it, not me"

  • @hobart7897
    @hobart7897 8 лет назад +1

    what about the back seat passengers.

  • @GuldstrandLin66
    @GuldstrandLin66 6 лет назад +3

    An uncle had a 2005 Venture and they crashed from behind, the trunk was destroyed.