Thank you! Going to see this in Philadelphia next week and your talk really opened up the piece for me as an (upcoming) audience member. I'll show this to my daughters who I hope will join me.
Thank you for your time and effort in assembling this video. I’m just about to conduct this piece with a professional orchestra; your insights will be very helpful.
I'm glad it was of help. It's a challenging piece to conduct in many ways. I've also dedicated a live session to it, a while back, looking at the structure and other aspects (you can find that on my website)
Very nice video. How you conduct the bar before number 12? In 9 with the right hand and the left hand make a little gesture to put the first violins and the first cello together? Like a 2 and 3 with the two hands? Thanks
Thank you very much. One before 12 you could do what you suggested but in my experience that can get a little confusing. If you have experienced players, the violins and cellos will know to place the duplets within the 9 subdivision. Personally, I subdivide in 9 but in the 1st and 2nd beat of the bar I skip the second subdivision: instead of 1 subdivision per eight note, I use one subdivision for the 1st eight note and 1 (longer) for the 2nd and 3rd eight notes. This keeps the rallentando but makes it easier for the violins to play the duplet. I subdivide completely the last beat of the bar. It's often enough to just look at the cellos and violins on their last duplet but if it really proves necessary I add a very small click with the left hand. Besides the subdivision, what is really important to make this bar clear is the pulsing and the even use of the space in the stroke, without jumping from one stroke or subdivision to the other with sudden movements.
going back to Debussy's early studies, he was introduced privately to Wagner's music by Lavignac. He heard Tristan in Vienna in 1880 and Parsifal in Bayreuth in 1888. Wagner's influence was not lost on him
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Wonderful teaching as always!! Bravo!!
Thank you
God it's exquisite in its every aspect an exotic cornucopia of ideal sensation rendered in music.
Yes, it is
Thank you! Going to see this in Philadelphia next week and your talk really opened up the piece for me as an (upcoming) audience member. I'll show this to my daughters who I hope will join me.
Pleasure, thank you for your appreciation and have fun at the concert!
Thank you for your time and effort in assembling this video.
I’m just about to conduct this piece with a professional orchestra; your insights will be very helpful.
I'm glad it was of help. It's a challenging piece to conduct in many ways. I've also dedicated a live session to it, a while back, looking at the structure and other aspects (you can find that on my website)
Thank you very very much for this video, love it!! :))
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
Very nice video. How you conduct the bar before number 12? In 9 with the right hand and the left hand make a little gesture to put the first violins and the first cello together? Like a 2 and 3 with the two hands? Thanks
Thank you very much. One before 12 you could do what you suggested but in my experience that can get a little confusing. If you have experienced players, the violins and cellos will know to place the duplets within the 9 subdivision.
Personally, I subdivide in 9 but in the 1st and 2nd beat of the bar I skip the second subdivision: instead of 1 subdivision per eight note, I use one subdivision for the 1st eight note and 1 (longer) for the 2nd and 3rd eight notes. This keeps the rallentando but makes it easier for the violins to play the duplet. I subdivide completely the last beat of the bar. It's often enough to just look at the cellos and violins on their last duplet but if it really proves necessary I add a very small click with the left hand.
Besides the subdivision, what is really important to make this bar clear is the pulsing and the even use of the space in the stroke, without jumping from one stroke or subdivision to the other with sudden movements.
It was a piece that we studied in conducting class in grad school. I never got to conduct it, just work out how I would do it.
do you feel the Tristan vibe on first chord? Yes
going back to Debussy's early studies, he was introduced privately to Wagner's music by Lavignac. He heard Tristan in Vienna in 1880 and Parsifal in Bayreuth in 1888. Wagner's influence was not lost on him