I love Simone Weil, but she clearly had a lifelong eating disorder and it killed her eventually. That's not what made her a brilliant philosopher. It's probably connected to the parts of her personality that took on experiences that gave her insight into workers' reality. But she didn't die from going to Spain or the Peugeot factory. She died of excessive self-denial, a habit that pre-dated her ideology and her philosophy. Hemingway wasn't a great writer *because* of his alcoholism, and Weil wasn't a great philosopher *because* of her eating disorder.
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I am enjoying this series on Simone so much! I‘ve felt drawn to Simone for the last couple of years, but have yet to actually read anything beyond snippets here and there, and analysis online. I guess I’ve been a bit intimidated and also struggling to read consistently 🙃 This is a really enjoyable intro and overview before I finally dive in. Very much looking forward to the next 🙏
I’m currently reading the book “zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance” based on your recommendation from a previous episode. I would love to hear you discuss it in an upcoming episode to learn your opinions/interpretations!
Her idea (decreation) sounds a lot like Rawls's veil of ignorance. However, I don't think it's possible to remove an individual from the community and background from which they've been embedded that forms their identity, their ego, because those very things are what makes them moral agents. Not to mention, it would uproot them in a way, which is one thing she would seem to be against, as you discuss in the beginning.
Unlike most academics of their time, Marx and Engels did spend a lot of time in factories with actual workers, so they were quite well familiar with the real daily lives of the workers although not being factory workers themselves
@@BrentSchmurda Not completely of course, all I meant was that the methods of M & E were very different from and much more authentic than those of the average bourgeoisie writer
i find that impossible, how not to bring anything personal, the language itself is a huge part of that how one can manage to be an empty mind, let alone my overthinking problem, ive tried meditation, and its impossible just stop thinking
Can't believe you said Marx didn't know what it was like to be a worker . Marx was politically persecuted and thus unable to find a steady job due to it , although he wrote here and there articles for newspapers , but he work tirelessly and I know you know this , and he lived in true need ,the money send by Engels not being enough to maintain a family in proper conditions . He truly lived in squalor . Simone Weiss working class vacations mean nothing much because the economical need wasn't there ,she held a job like a rich person goes to try life in the country side and see the "simple" folk . Marx actually gave his life for the working class . Not out of any desire for fame or money's hich he could have gotten easily had his political beliefs been different . Since he was a person of the highest Intellect. Marx wasn't over concerned with personal stories of misery , but in a scientific approach to the problems of capitalism . I've been sitting through this and I can't help but see that Simone Weiss basically watered down Marxism into a pseudo religious feeling of piety ... Marx actually did the work and proved it with data, constantly advancing the workers cause , which is way harder than shedding tears and getting a job . Simone Weiss is just taking all the class struggle and history out of Marxism and boiling it down to a self sacrificial christian sentiment ....
There is nothing abstract in Marxism is actually direct and materialist based .based in history and observation of class struggle in real social conditions . Simone Weiss spirituality replacing real social revolution is the most bourgeois twist ever. It serves no purpose but to maintain the status quo . That's why is so appealing to people who benefit from imperialism and capitalism because it allows them to feel good in a horrible exploitative world .
It's not only us as individuals who happen to make a decision to objectify the other . Is the system who promotes social relations based solely on material exchange . Marx mentioned this way back how capitalism destroys all bonds and leaves nothing but cold hard business relations for people to engage in. So the individual change is not enough but the system needs to change too and is more necessary for the system to change for any change to be lasting and meaningful.
This Messianic "Mother Teresa" approach does not seem practical. If everyone took care of themselves first (basics, education, job, etc.), then their immediate family members, then their needy friends, and then their local community--in that order--I'd venture to say much of the world's poverty would be reduced. I'd also guess that Weil's grandiose gestures were probably not practiced in her local community, where, I imagine, WW2 conditions were hurting many locals. No ... the most "altruistic" often display the largest egos.
I don’t believe she expected everyone to follow the same path as her. Just because it’s impractical for others, does not diminish its value and significance. And I think you’re jumping to conclusions there thinking these are grandiose large ego acts. How do you figure this? How are you discerning where these incredible altruistic acts are coming from?
@@evedotcom Hannah Arendt has made the case that the only way an act can truly be good is if someone is unaware that they're doing an act of good. Otherwise, they will always receive some benefit from it that does influence the ego
@@andrewbowen2837that's not an action, that's an event. Actions are always intentional. I for one do not see why a boost for the ego would undo the good that was intended. It could be corruptive, but it doesn't have to be if one remains aware.
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Absolutely tremendous realization! So simple and beautiful its a riddle how we are not seeing it as the ultimate pure reality.
I love Simone Weil, but she clearly had a lifelong eating disorder and it killed her eventually. That's not what made her a brilliant philosopher. It's probably connected to the parts of her personality that took on experiences that gave her insight into workers' reality. But she didn't die from going to Spain or the Peugeot factory. She died of excessive self-denial, a habit that pre-dated her ideology and her philosophy. Hemingway wasn't a great writer *because* of his alcoholism, and Weil wasn't a great philosopher *because* of her eating disorder.
Please stop reducing people's natural spiritual inclinations to psychological disorders. It's atheistic, condescending, and tediously boring.
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Thank u for introducing me to Simone weil, she is truly inspiring ❤ love your podcasts a lot
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I am enjoying this series on Simone so much! I‘ve felt drawn to Simone for the last couple of years, but have yet to actually read anything beyond snippets here and there, and analysis online. I guess I’ve been a bit intimidated and also struggling to read consistently 🙃 This is a really enjoyable intro and overview before I finally dive in. Very much looking forward to the next 🙏
"Waiting on God" is a good book to start.
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Human Rights in relation to Maslow’s hierarchy of needs…relative positioning on the perceived needs level of the Other.
I’m currently reading the book “zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance” based on your recommendation from a previous episode. I would love to hear you discuss it in an upcoming episode to learn your opinions/interpretations!
14:00 they were still doing that at the time of WW2 and up until the late 1950s
Her idea (decreation) sounds a lot like Rawls's veil of ignorance. However, I don't think it's possible to remove an individual from the community and background from which they've been embedded that forms their identity, their ego, because those very things are what makes them moral agents. Not to mention, it would uproot them in a way, which is one thing she would seem to be against, as you discuss in the beginning.
Unlike most academics of their time, Marx and Engels did spend a lot of time in factories with actual workers, so they were quite well familiar with the real daily lives of the workers although not being factory workers themselves
Yeah Engel owned the factory 😭
@@BrentSchmurda Yea his family owned factories
@@L.Kujari yes so it's exactly like Stephen said, so he was wealthy and could never truly understand the true struggle of a worker.
@@BrentSchmurda Not completely of course, all I meant was that the methods of M & E were very different from and much more authentic than those of the average bourgeoisie writer
i find that impossible, how not to bring anything personal, the language itself is a huge part of that how one can manage to be an empty mind, let alone my overthinking problem, ive tried meditation, and its impossible just stop thinking
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Can't believe you said Marx didn't know what it was like to be a worker . Marx was politically persecuted and thus unable to find a steady job due to it , although he wrote here and there articles for newspapers , but he work tirelessly and I know you know this , and he lived in true need ,the money send by Engels not being enough to maintain a family in proper conditions . He truly lived in squalor . Simone Weiss working class vacations mean nothing much because the economical need wasn't there ,she held a job like a rich person goes to try life in the country side and see the "simple" folk .
Marx actually gave his life for the working class . Not out of any desire for fame or money's hich he could have gotten easily had his political beliefs been different . Since he was a person of the highest Intellect.
Marx wasn't over concerned with personal stories of misery , but in a scientific approach to the problems of capitalism .
I've been sitting through this and I can't help but see that Simone Weiss basically watered down Marxism into a pseudo religious feeling of piety ...
Marx actually did the work and proved it with data, constantly advancing the workers cause , which is way harder than shedding tears and getting a job .
Simone Weiss is just taking all the class struggle and history out of Marxism and boiling it down to a self sacrificial christian sentiment ....
She wrote enough despite her age
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In last episode you said next episode will come sooner than you think, but it was so late. Please don’t do this 😞
"God doesn't talk to me" you are too corrupted and invaded thinking its English you're looking for....smh
There is nothing abstract in Marxism is actually direct and materialist based .based in history and observation of class struggle in real social conditions .
Simone Weiss spirituality replacing real social revolution is the most bourgeois twist ever. It serves no purpose but to maintain the status quo .
That's why is so appealing to people who benefit from imperialism and capitalism because it allows them to feel good in a horrible exploitative world .
Weiqi. If a game. Those that win deserve to win. A beautiful mind 🐝
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It's not only us as individuals who happen to make a decision to objectify the other . Is the system who promotes social relations based solely on material exchange . Marx mentioned this way back how capitalism destroys all bonds and leaves nothing but cold hard business relations for people to engage in.
So the individual change is not enough but the system needs to change too and is more necessary for the system to change for any change to be lasting and meaningful.
This Messianic "Mother Teresa" approach does not seem practical. If everyone took care of themselves first (basics, education, job, etc.), then their immediate family members, then their needy friends, and then their local community--in that order--I'd venture to say much of the world's poverty would be reduced. I'd also guess that Weil's grandiose gestures were probably not practiced in her local community, where, I imagine, WW2 conditions were hurting many locals. No ... the most "altruistic" often display the largest egos.
I don’t believe she expected everyone to follow the same path as her. Just because it’s impractical for others, does not diminish its value and significance. And I think you’re jumping to conclusions there thinking these are grandiose large ego acts. How do you figure this? How are you discerning where these incredible altruistic acts are coming from?
@@evedotcom Hannah Arendt has made the case that the only way an act can truly be good is if someone is unaware that they're doing an act of good. Otherwise, they will always receive some benefit from it that does influence the ego
@@andrewbowen2837 would you give specific examples of this "truly" acts of good? are there really any acts of good that is not done for the ego?
@@rainiealunan2932 it would have to be something done in accident, or in ignorance. Helping others without being aware of it.
@@andrewbowen2837that's not an action, that's an event. Actions are always intentional. I for one do not see why a boost for the ego would undo the good that was intended. It could be corruptive, but it doesn't have to be if one remains aware.