For more info on the product and to buy one, head over to www.currys.co.uk/products/ninja-speedi-on400uk-10in1-rapid-cooker-and-air-fryer-grey-10246322.html?q=ninja%20speedi
Hi I brought the Ninja Speedi 3 months ago and think I've used it practically every day for cooking pasta, rice, veg, fish, meat. Just can't believe how quick it cooks and so easy to clean . Think I've only used my oven a couple of times since a brought my Ninja Speedi 😃
@@OllieW501 yes 100% because we have no gas or oil so only use electric and because it cooks multi meals and also cooks quicker also less pans to wash so less time heating up the hot water using the hot water heater .👍
I don’t know him, but I’m impressed by his delivery. Very pro :) Regarding the cooker. I bought one a couple of weeks ago. It’s been a game changer, even compared to my old tower one that has a rotator. It’s amazing. The only negative is removing the contents. It’s soooo fast at cooking.
He’s a presenter on the gadget show in the UK. Infact I think this is a snippet, saw the G go across the screen. They often shoot the home reviews in a more normal format, rather than make it look like a studio.
Having now used & examined this crisper tray, if a tool was supplied which hooked & twisted into the crispers centre there would be no need to get burnt from the heat either!
I've just bought one can't wait to try the steam one as I've had an electric pressure cooker & I'm hoping it cooks meat especially beef the same amount of time.
I have a Ninja air fryer and quite like it however I thought I would try an experiment. I have a smart meter which shows you how much electricity you are using. I put the ninja on roast at 190 and noted the reading on the smart meter, I then put the small section of my ordinary oven on guess what it uses exactly the same amount of electricity but has about 6 times the capacity !!!
Great review as I'm trying to decide what product to buy. I want to steam my veg a lot more. I'm not a great cook. I'm looking for a combination product that does it all. No oven it broke. I have an AF so this Ninja seems to be a good choice
Out of interest do you use them together / at the same time putting different items in each fryer, or do you use them separately using each fryer for a particular item / cooking process?
*It is a game changer.* Try this... put 500ml water in the bottom, then put frozen mackerel fillets on the shelf at the top. "Steam Bake" for 15 mins. I can't remember the exact time, it might only be 12 mins, you need to look in the book (frozen fish on Steam Bake is listed around the back of the book somewhere, I think under the pale blue headings) and the water does take a while to get up to temp before it starts cooking, but on the "Steam Bake" setting I think it does have a preheating phase to it (unlike just normal air frying that seems to need about 3 mins adding to any cooking time and unlike the smaller tapered cylinder type fryers that don't start cooking until they get up to temp) so it's OK to put the actual time in. *OH MY GOD the fish you end up with at the end!* Crispy brown skin and an incredible flavour. It's like I'm eating a totally different food to the usual foil wrapped oven baked fish. Be warned though - the fish does make a mess and gets a bit stuck to the shelf and it's also nearly touching the element at the top of the Ninja, but there is some clearance there. You won't believe how amazing mackerel with skin on (and I guess most other fish like it) comes out doing it this way. Never had fish like it.
Metal tongs will NOT hurt the non-stick coating UNLESS you SCRAPE with it-- just picking up stuff will NOT harm it at all. But I even ordered an extra tub and shelf for it JUST in case and have had NO issue with it scratching at all.
Maybe you can help me make a choice. I am choosing between ninja foodi(op300) and ninja speedi(on400), the main differences are that the speedi does not have a pressure cooking function and I don’t know if this function makes sense if the ninja speedi has a steam cooking function and how do I I realized the main differences between pressure cooking and steaming are only time and speed of cooking, and everything else is the same. What then to choose?
Good video, but what you not mentioning is the cleaning of inside of the lid area, actually, no one knows how to do this, no advise from Ninja themselves.... as usual...There is a huge difference between USA version and the UK version! The USA one does not have an extra cover of the heating element, whereas UK does...And all the dirt and oil gathers there, and i am not sure if this cover can be unscrewed for cleaning? Do you know , Jon?
After buying the Ninja A/F 400, I havent used my oven since last Feb. I like pasta and rice though but don’t want to use my stove top because of the steam on the windows , also my COPD and too cold to open windows or door. , been researching the Speedi but can anyone tell me if it releases same amount of steam into the room please ? TIA
I've just reviewed this on my channel, and I'm also really impressed with this, great gadget to have even with the awkward design for removing everything.
Be aware the model is different in the USA for some reason, so many of the American RUclips recipes will have you hunting for settings that don't exist on the UK one
I found my Philips (who originally developed the concept) is pretty good I picked the original model solid build quality , time and temp, far less bs to go wrong.
Hey there! Oh man, I totally get where you're coming from with the Foodi 11in1 lid. Cleaning those things can be a bit of a hassle sometimes, right? 😅 Have you tried giving it a good soak or using a brush to get into those tricky spots? If you've found any cool cleaning hacks, do share! Cheers! 🙌
not in the speedi it's been fine a quick wipe does the job depending on what you're cooking of course - if not add some water and steam, will clean more efficiently
Would you be so kind as to provide dimensions including the lid hinge as I’m not sure that’s included in the tech spec. Wondering if it will do for my camper van.. thanks.
As you face the unit I make it 35cm wide, 32cm high, and 36cm deep. With the lid open it’s about 50.5cm high. This seems very slightly bigger than the dimensions listed on the website though I can’t claim 100% accuracy.
Same as a halogen air fryer/cooker , but the difference is you can see what your cooking in the halogen cooker/air fryer, a very big advantage I think not to mention the price difference.
halogen cookers are great while they work, but take it from someone who worked for a large uk retailer in the past - I still recall a mountain of halogen returns in front of me due to the popped bulbs!
@@toosas ..True , and why they don’t put a metal element in them I don’t know , but we had an Andrew James hinged lid one and the bulb lasted several years and it came with a spare bulb we had that thing for quite a few years and never ever again used our gas oven, I’ve got a Corsori air fryer but seldom use it there’s nothing at all wrong with it but I just don’t find so easy and convenient as my Halogen and the Halogen has a lot more space inside.
I"ve had one of these for MONTHS--and used nothing but the air fry setting. I did the setting steam nd crisp once and it was GREAT... but I'm doing carnivore- so only need the one setting.. The machine is great--- all kinds of helps... the ONLY drawback I have for it-- is there is NOT enough room in it. I have to- as carnivore- eat around a pound or more of meat at a time- and if you STACK it inside- it won't all cook correctly-- and there is not enough room to slice it and spread it out. THAT has nothing to do with HOW it works though- and that is WONDERFUL. I just wish they'd make one with like a 10inch by 10 inch "pan" inside it-- instead of the puny 7 inch one..
Did you see the error at 4;32 he clearly did not have the top corner flap out so the top tray could not be put the tray in place. why did they not just put a lip around the pan so the top tray could sit on. the 4 legs are going to take weight and over time may break. But with that £229 is a Lot of money to spend when there are or should be far cheaper items that you can buy that do the same.
I’m a bit frustrated with it to be honest. You put a timer on it for 15mins then it spends 10mins pre heating, so it is no different to an oven. I feel like I’ve wasted £188 to be honest. I’m going to have to start preheating it while I’m prepping the food.
I think the benefit is it uses less energy than a oven. And you can do multiple things at the same time with one applicance. Ie cook rice and chicken in one go
So? Pre heat it then. Its not hard to click a button. You can't expect it to cook your food and have the perfect temperature instantly ffs. People love to moan for nothing.
Any good cook knows the value of pressure cooking. I have a ninja multi cooker. It does have the pressure cooker function. I love it. Wouldn't be without it. Do not fall for this malarkey just make sure you have the multi cooker with the pressure cooker. To note I have one of the older models with a separate lid. If you drop the lid it breaks easily, rendering the pressure cooker useless. Thankfully ninja replaced mine.
I have watched the Gadget Show for what seems like forever, always found the reviews and testing fair and mostly accurate. You dropped the ball here, I guess all you testers live in massive mansions, we have like many small homes, Lounge/kitchen/diner, we bought the 15 in 1 machine, using it on Air fryer, meant you could hear nothing, no telly, no conversation, not even someone ringing the door. You missed the noise when cooking. We got rid of ours sadly, in our small home it was just too loud, super machine. Please if you are going to review something at least do a proper review, many of us don't have large separate kitchens with doors to close when cooking.
You sure you didn't get a faulty unit? Not being able to hear the TV or a conversation isn't normal. Obviously a mini convection oven with really powerful fans is going to make noise, they're not intended to be silent. A washing machine on a spin cycle is much louder though, so either you're being dramatic or the unit was faulty.
@@noraa2635 when you heat teflon it leaches chemicals into your food, apparently dioxins are excellent for your health ! yes chemicals are in everything thats why i try to feed myself and especially my family as few carcinogens and hormone disrupting chems as possible , stainless or cast iron to cook with , organic local foods , water distiller to drink and boil food in ect ect 😊
It's not fried though. The name is misleading. It's just a small convection oven with a powerful fan. So what you really mean is that they get people to eat more baked food.
From customer feedback on Amazon, it seems like this air fryer doesn't even come with a UK plug. Did the manufacture/retailer sponsor this glorified advert by any chance?
Animal fat or saturated is beneficial for people as long as they dont eat lots of sugar and carbs pasta rice bread.. thats how they get type 2 diabetes...low fat is from the old 1960s food pyramid and is proven and researched to be misinformation but is still pushed
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The King of Reviews. Why this geezer doesn't have his own channel is beyond me.
I totally agree, just to hear someone speaking English properly is so refreshing and it was a great review. Love Ninja☺☺
Because his mannerisms are so annoying!
Because the job of "youtuber" is too multi-faceted for a lot of people. Plus you get a bonus with sponsorships, etc.
Because he's been presenting & producing *real* TV programmes like this for 35 years 😅
Coz his Ninjas are more expensive lol
For more info on the product and to buy one, head over to www.currys.co.uk/products/ninja-speedi-on400uk-10in1-rapid-cooker-and-air-fryer-grey-10246322.html?q=ninja%20speedi
Finding a 👍 from the gadget show has made my mind up and because I'm a single bloke I can freeze and extra👌...
i have recently bought a 7.1 Litre Tower single air fryer, its incredibly easy to use and i love it
Hi I brought the Ninja Speedi 3 months ago and think I've used it practically every day for cooking pasta, rice, veg, fish, meat. Just can't believe how quick it cooks and so easy to clean . Think I've only used my oven a couple of times since a brought my Ninja Speedi 😃
Hi, do you think it's more or less efficient than the oven in terms of electricity?
Thanks
@@OllieW501 yes 100% because we have no gas or oil so only use electric and because it cooks multi meals and also cooks quicker also less pans to wash so less time heating up the hot water using the hot water heater .👍
Where did you bring it to?
I don’t know him, but I’m impressed by his delivery. Very pro :)
Regarding the cooker. I bought one a couple of weeks ago. It’s been a game changer, even compared to my old tower one that has a rotator. It’s amazing. The only negative is removing the contents. It’s soooo fast at cooking.
He’s a presenter on the gadget show in the UK. Infact I think this is a snippet, saw the G go across the screen. They often shoot the home reviews in a more normal format, rather than make it look like a studio.
Yes I'm thinking the same. No handles. The item will be hot so how would I get my rice to the plate? Use a ladel/ spoon?
he needs to manscape his eyebrows
Thank you for your comment
I loved that show wish they would bring tv shows like that back. Nowadays it's all series and crap on netflix!
Thanks John, I've ordered one and it will be here tomorrow. 👍
I love mine!
I don’t like to cook but I’m enjoying it when I use the Speedi.
It cleans easier than anything I’ve ever cooked with!
Great review and love the accent, could listen to it all day.
Ninja should produce the crisping tray but with folding handle!
Having now used & examined this crisper tray, if a tool was supplied which hooked & twisted into the crispers centre there would be no need to get burnt from the heat either!
Love the way Jon presents tech products! 😊
I enjoyed your excellent explanation of how this cooker works 👍
Thanks again John. It's just arrived and it's a lovely bit of kit.😊
We returned a Black and Decker one four years ago - should have bought this then
Is there an app or other way to find receipts if you want for example Shepard’s pie or lasagna?
I am really impressed by your review. Thank you!
I've just bought one can't wait to try the steam one as I've had an electric pressure cooker & I'm hoping it cooks meat especially beef the same amount of time.
Ninja products change your life, superb quality. Perfect diction in the presentation, so nice to hear. Thank you☺
I have a Ninja air fryer and quite like it however I thought I would try an experiment. I have a smart meter which shows you how much electricity you are using. I put the ninja on roast at 190 and noted the reading on the smart meter, I then put the small section of my ordinary oven on guess what it uses exactly the same amount of electricity but has about 6 times the capacity !!!
OMG THE GADGET SHOW
I REMEMBER THE GADGET SHOW
Jon is great!!!
Great review as I'm trying to decide what product to buy. I want to steam my veg a lot more. I'm not a great cook. I'm looking for a combination product that does it all. No oven it broke. I have an AF so this Ninja seems to be a good choice
I had no idea the Gadget show was still thing, wow.
Great review John, thank you very much.
Absolutely Ninja make the best air fryers. I have two of them. It's a game changer.
Out of interest do you use them together / at the same time putting different items in each fryer, or do you use them separately using each fryer for a particular item / cooking process?
@@BlueSummers101 I use them individually or together, depending on what I'm cooking.
Between this and the Ninja Steam and Crisp I hardly use the hob and only use the oven for Christmas and Thanksgiving.
*It is a game changer.*
Try this... put 500ml water in the bottom, then put frozen mackerel fillets on the shelf at the top.
"Steam Bake" for 15 mins. I can't remember the exact time, it might only be 12 mins, you need to look in the book (frozen fish on Steam Bake is listed around the back of the book somewhere, I think under the pale blue headings) and the water does take a while to get up to temp before it starts cooking, but on the "Steam Bake" setting I think it does have a preheating phase to it (unlike just normal air frying that seems to need about 3 mins adding to any cooking time and unlike the smaller tapered cylinder type fryers that don't start cooking until they get up to temp) so it's OK to put the actual time in.
*OH MY GOD the fish you end up with at the end!*
Crispy brown skin and an incredible flavour. It's like I'm eating a totally different food to the usual foil wrapped oven baked fish. Be warned though - the fish does make a mess and gets a bit stuck to the shelf and it's also nearly touching the element at the top of the Ninja, but there is some clearance there. You won't believe how amazing mackerel with skin on (and I guess most other fish like it) comes out doing it this way. Never had fish like it.
Metal tongs will NOT hurt the non-stick coating UNLESS you SCRAPE with it-- just picking up stuff will NOT harm it at all. But I even ordered an extra tub and shelf for it JUST in case and have had NO issue with it scratching at all.
Maybe you can help me make a choice. I am choosing between ninja foodi(op300) and ninja speedi(on400), the main differences are that the speedi does not have a pressure cooking function and I don’t know if this function makes sense if the ninja speedi has a steam cooking function and how do I I realized the main differences between pressure cooking and steaming are only time and speed of cooking, and everything else is the same. What then to choose?
I would like to know as well
Good video, but what you not mentioning is the cleaning of inside of the lid area, actually, no one knows how to do this, no advise from Ninja themselves.... as usual...There is a huge difference between USA version and the UK version! The USA one does not have an extra cover of the heating element, whereas UK does...And all the dirt and oil gathers there, and i am not sure if this cover can be unscrewed for cleaning? Do you know , Jon?
The US one has different settings, too.
I'm wondering how you get accessories for it. For baking or souse vide etc, eggs and cakes and cupcakes. I can't find accessories anywhere.
i can’t believe they still make this show
Really should have made the sponsorship clearer. I only thought to check after the sycophantic review.
After buying the Ninja A/F 400, I havent used my oven since last Feb. I like pasta and rice though but don’t want to use my stove top because of the steam on the windows , also my COPD and too cold to open windows or door. , been researching the Speedi but can anyone tell me if it releases same amount of steam into the room please ? TIA
I've just reviewed this on my channel, and I'm also really impressed with this, great gadget to have even with the awkward design for removing everything.
Yeah,that's great. Nice plug! Grow up.
Be aware the model is different in the USA for some reason, so many of the American RUclips recipes will have you hunting for settings that don't exist on the UK one
I found my Philips (who originally developed the concept) is pretty good
I picked the original model solid build quality , time and temp, far less bs to go wrong.
I'm sure the link to purchase this cooker is appreciated but I've just bought one for £169 so I would advise shopping around.
got it and its amazing
I’m awaiting my delivery today, I found it at £199 from Amazon! I hope I’m as pleased as I’m hoping to be! 🤞🤞🤞
£179 Amazon
@@karlinguk typical my luck it was discounted after my purchase.
On sale at Costco here in the U.S., $99.
@@Rob_430 Couldn't pass it up at that price. Should be here in a couple days.
Nice one Jon 👍
What's happening with the new Gadget Show when is it back on TV
Wednesday 7th June at 7pm.
@@jonbentley6439 thanks John a bit starstruck with this reply👍
It would have been nice to hear how much it costs and how much electricity it uses.
Yes, they are great, but cleaning the lid is a nightmare, in fact, you can’t clean the lid properly. I have the Foodi 11in1.
Hey there! Oh man, I totally get where you're coming from with the Foodi 11in1 lid. Cleaning those things can be a bit of a hassle sometimes, right? 😅 Have you tried giving it a good soak or using a brush to get into those tricky spots? If you've found any cool cleaning hacks, do share! Cheers! 🙌
not in the speedi it's been fine a quick wipe does the job depending on what you're cooking of course - if not add some water and steam, will clean more efficiently
I really wish Ninja had called it the Quickie 😳🤣
Nice...
Would you be so kind as to provide dimensions including the lid hinge as I’m not sure that’s included in the tech spec. Wondering if it will do for my camper van.. thanks.
As you face the unit I make it 35cm wide, 32cm high, and 36cm deep. With the lid open it’s about 50.5cm high. This seems very slightly bigger than the dimensions listed on the website though I can’t claim 100% accuracy.
I own one. Game changer.
Yeah but the real question is how many chips can you fit in it. 😂
Sur ke dite de nonja led udtensiled sont a commannder
Same as a halogen air fryer/cooker , but the difference is you can see what your cooking in the halogen cooker/air fryer, a very big advantage I think not to mention the price difference.
halogen cookers are great while they work, but take it from someone who worked for a large uk retailer in the past - I still recall a mountain of halogen returns in front of me due to the popped bulbs!
@@toosas ..True , and why they don’t put a metal element in them I don’t know , but we had an Andrew James hinged lid one and the bulb lasted several years and it came with a spare bulb we had that thing for quite a few years and never ever again used our gas oven, I’ve got a Corsori air fryer but seldom use it there’s nothing at all wrong with it but I just don’t find so easy and convenient as my Halogen and the Halogen has a lot more space inside.
What size is the crisper tray?
21cm square
I"ve had one of these for MONTHS--and used nothing but the air fry setting. I did the setting steam nd crisp once and it was GREAT... but I'm doing carnivore- so only need the one setting.. The machine is great--- all kinds of helps... the ONLY drawback I have for it-- is there is NOT enough room in it. I have to- as carnivore- eat around a pound or more of meat at a time- and if you STACK it inside- it won't all cook correctly-- and there is not enough room to slice it and spread it out. THAT has nothing to do with HOW it works though- and that is WONDERFUL. I just wish they'd make one with like a 10inch by 10 inch "pan" inside it-- instead of the puny 7 inch one..
There is a new Ninja model which looks like an oven. It is called Ninja Combi.
😂😂😂ey yo rub that seasoning in next time og😂😂😂
What’s better - an air fryer or this?
Well it's 199 on the Ninja website.
How do i get the pot out when its hot? How do i put my rice to the plate? How do i lift the grill out. My hands are weak. No handles!
It takes forever to pre heat
Did you see the error at 4;32 he clearly did not have the top corner flap out so the top tray could not be put the tray in place.
why did they not just put a lip around the pan so the top tray could sit on. the 4 legs are going to take weight and over time may break.
But with that £229 is a Lot of money to spend when there are or should be far cheaper items that you can buy that do the same.
luckily it is almost 100 quid off at the mo. has to be worth a punt>?
Hey, are you a GT86 owner??? :)
Unfortunately, no.
@@jonbentley6439 Ah, ok. I was admiring your t-shirt, as I am a GT86 owner. :)
They’re great cars. I hope you continue to enjoy yours for a long time!
mmmm. Wonderful.
I remember you from fifth gear.
Doesnt look different enough. Maybe if it acted like pressure cooker too then would be enough.
I’m a bit frustrated with it to be honest. You put a timer on it for 15mins then it spends 10mins pre heating, so it is no different to an oven. I feel like I’ve wasted £188 to be honest. I’m going to have to start preheating it while I’m prepping the food.
I think the benefit is it uses less energy than a oven. And you can do multiple things at the same time with one applicance. Ie cook rice and chicken in one go
So? Pre heat it then. Its not hard to click a button. You can't expect it to cook your food and have the perfect temperature instantly ffs. People love to moan for nothing.
@@RAWS420the pre heat counts as part of the cook time on the steam settings😅
I always use hot water and it speeds up the process
Wow this looks like a bland meal
Any good cook knows the value of pressure cooking. I have a ninja multi cooker. It does have the pressure cooker function. I love it. Wouldn't be without it. Do not fall for this malarkey just make sure you have the multi cooker with the pressure cooker. To note I have one of the older models with a separate lid. If you drop the lid it breaks easily, rendering the pressure cooker useless. Thankfully ninja replaced mine.
Bought one and returned it. I do not eat animal products at all and I don’t care for overcooked vegetables. If you eat meat/fish might be good.
Nice review but the non stick coating is a no no for me😱😱😱😱😱
Lol your funny!
This is not an Airfrier, no fan inside. It's a miniature wall oven.
My girlfriend is polish and thought you was go go gadget man from the cartoons she said she used to watch him as a kid. I dont know what to do now
Is this sadik khan??
Does he look Asian?
Bro is definitely not a chef, that's for sure.
I’m pretty convinced that people impressed by these things can’t cook
I can cook so I don't use the Speedi meals function. Treat it as a mini oven/grill, though as a tool, and it's very good and efficient
I think the lip smacking eating was unnecessary and very annoying...could of just told us it was tasty😑
I have watched the Gadget Show for what seems like forever, always found the reviews and testing fair and mostly accurate. You dropped the ball here, I guess all you testers live in massive mansions, we have like many small homes, Lounge/kitchen/diner, we bought the 15 in 1 machine, using it on Air fryer, meant you could hear nothing, no telly, no conversation, not even someone ringing the door. You missed the noise when cooking. We got rid of ours sadly, in our small home it was just too loud, super machine. Please if you are going to review something at least do a proper review, many of us don't have large separate kitchens with doors to close when cooking.
God that is a lot of moaning.
You sure you didn't get a faulty unit? Not being able to hear the TV or a conversation isn't normal. Obviously a mini convection oven with really powerful fans is going to make noise, they're not intended to be silent. A washing machine on a spin cycle is much louder though, so either you're being dramatic or the unit was faulty.
@@mydogeatspuke Cannot really answer johnnyboy2268 thinks it's moaning when you point out errors.
@@Taz6688 are you 12? Why would the opinion of one person stop you from doing something? There's no need to be petulant.
dude's speech affectations are rather irritating.
the overly-enunciated diction when he's talking is quite offputting
The gadget show was Diverse, it had him (old geezer) a young white girl and a black man. Covered all bases
I prefer Phillips xl
Mmmmmm 😋 Teflon , forever chemicals
Only if youre eating the lining. chemicals in the air land in your food regardless
@@noraa2635 when you heat teflon it leaches chemicals into your food, apparently dioxins are excellent for your health ! yes chemicals are in everything thats why i try to feed myself and especially my family as few carcinogens and hormone disrupting chems as possible , stainless or cast iron to cook with , organic local foods , water distiller to drink and boil food in ect ect 😊
it has no teflon on it
No your quite right it doesn't , however ceramic and other nano particles contained in the coating are just as bad 😉
The gadget looks good but your cooking looks bland.
This dude is eating raw 🥩 meat jeez! Wtf
The thing about air fryers is they get people to eat more fried food
It's not fried though. The name is misleading. It's just a small convection oven with a powerful fan. So what you really mean is that they get people to eat more baked food.
the thing about your comment is it makes you look like you have no clue about what your talking about
From customer feedback on Amazon, it seems like this air fryer doesn't even come with a UK plug.
Did the manufacture/retailer sponsor this glorified advert by any chance?
no your just incapable of using the internet correctly
@@DeterminedFC I read the comments. If they're inaccurate, it's not my fault.
Looks good but not well priced
No pressure cook? No thanks
Guess this isn’t healthier as grease drips down into food below 🫤
Animal fat or saturated is beneficial for people as long as they dont eat lots of sugar and carbs pasta rice bread.. thats how they get type 2 diabetes...low fat is from the old 1960s food pyramid and is proven and researched to be misinformation but is still pushed