Asking homeless people if it's a lifestyle choice
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- Home secretary Suella Braverman described homelessness as a lifestyle choice while announcing her plans to stop homeless people sleeping in tents.
Ed Campbell ventured in to central London to ask those who know best if it really is a lifestyle choice.
Reporter: Ed Campbell
Camera: Harry Ainsworth
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Let's be real,
She wants to ban tents because she doesn't like how they look. The people who occupy the tents are just an inconvenient obstacle to her
I agree with you. Just like when the road was being dug up last year near Sloane Square. It was fenced off a covered in greenery so that the rich didn't have to see it. Whereas when the roads are being dug up elsewhere it's a different story. In rich areas homeless people get moved on more often than in other areas as well, even if they aren't begging.
Have you given these people all your money and invited them to live in your house or backyard? No? So shut the f up.
Actually reminds me of Grenfel Tower in a way.
Hides the rising number of homeless if you make them less visible.
Its way more sinister. These psychos in gov have long term agendas. This isnt just about the homeless, its never about the present moment. They are laying foundation to disciminate people who simply use public space in the future. Stay safe out there.
Back in 2004 I was homeless. It was fucking brutal. I'm not a wealthy man but I give what I can to those in need when I can. She will go down in history as one of the UK most repugnant monsters.
What's your story? How come you were homeless? I ask because people don't realise it could happen to anyone and sharing how you got there help to raise awareness.
BS
@tvguy61 you were still homeless. Anyone who doesn't have a home is homeless. You're just one of the lucky ones who has support so doesn't have to be street homeless.
How come, we had a Labour government in 2004 and they’re all for the people. Oh that’s right, they left people like you to rot and put all their efforts into importing your replacement. 😉
Been there myself and I never met one person who said "Oh yeah, I chose to be here!" 🤬🤬🤬 Braverman makes me want to throw up.
My brother was homeless and he said when you’re homeless it’s not just the financial and physical depravity it’s also the mental depravity - there’s hopelessness, depression etc.
the very people who supose to help you turn out to use you as target practise and arresst results police treats homeless people like they are all crack heads to be shat on and hurt .some thing to play with when the police are bored much like the tory .your treated less with less rights by people you never allow near the public if the public woke up and noticed.ty for votig tory .
Interested to hear how you helped or not?
Perhaps you should have helped him instead of whinging on the internet
The mental is actually the hardest, basically what led them to homelessness, now X10 , very hard to break free without help.
@@Storm.Z.4uHah, why are you assuming they didnt? Or they could have been estranged and the family didn't know for a while.
Crazy to assume that man.
I’m 73 never been more disgusted in this country than i am now, it’s like some sort of banana republic,the stench of corruption fills the air, i pray that the tory party pay for what they’ve done to Britain.
Yes it's becoming a real shiitehole
Britain is broken and we let it happen but got worse under war criminal Blair
I'm just terrified that they'll get back in again.
Amen brother
Same
The way the guy's face lit up when he started talking about books really made me smile. It is easy to just see a homeless person and forget that they all have passions and dreams, lives just as complex and diverse as everybody else.
I can never quite work out if Braverman is just stupid or if she's being intentionally evil.
He's smart and on streets. Can happen to any1
Evil. Trust me.
I'm leaning evil.
She's intentionally evil as part of her PR strategy. Newspapers need controversy because humans are wired to give more attention to dangers. She says the scummiest of things she can to get her the headlines and backing she needs.
The trouble is, humans kick down. In the video the homeless guy blames the immigrant. It's the timeless strategy of the bag of sweets, the Tory, the Foreigner and the working class man. The Tory takes 9 of the 10 sweets, pass one to the foreigner and then whispers to the working class Brit that the foreigner stole their sweet.
Just evil.
We thought it couldn't get worse after Patel. How wrong we were... Well done England.
It's always the case. In the US remember when everyone thought George Bush was the worst? Then Trump came along. In the UK remember when everyone thought Teresa May was horrendous, then we got Boris Johnson. Suddenly both Bush and May are looking like bastions of salvation... Well personally I'm just glad we voted "stability and strong Government" with David Cameron instead of "chaos with Ed Miliband" 😒
Patel was a saint compare to this mentalist!
Quite.
Politicians in Britain had dignity empathehat the hell happened?
May I remind you: ruclips.net/video/yR7lbC1xHG4/видео.htmlsi=1Xet4LjZPKSIWXJ6. Now you cannot even go to Europe to hope to get a chance to get a job. You are third world country now. It shows. I really hope, that things improve but it all seems so hopeless. I am so worried. One mishap, I will be in the same situation. Am I an extremist now to call the Tories criminals?
"According to multiple sources, Suella Braverman, the Home Secretary, has allegedly claimed nearly £25,000 in expenses to cover energy and other costs in her main home while staying rent-free with her parents". Lifestyle choice?
Just WOW
Asian culture is weird like that, and I say that as an Indian person myself. Asian parents want their kids to stay at home, become doctors or such, then look after them when they're old. Moving out is almost like a sin, but the parents literally provide everything for their adult kids their whole life. I moved out at age 36 into a council house, my brother at 38 into a so called luxury detached house - yet he was a pharmacist for over 15 years before doing so, I was between retail jobs and unemployed because of health issues. You can take one guess at who my parent's favourite child was and who was the scapegoat. So the thing is, people like my brother and Suella Braverman have exactly zero clue what its like on the other end of the spectrum having had everything easy and provided for their whole lives.
Also in my experience of council housing and the 'needs based criteria', you basically have zero chance of getting council accomodation as a white man. Even being brown and disabled I was on the waiting list for 7 years. Women first, then minorities, then white men last.
100 million spent on Hotels for foreigners who’s families have paid fuck all into the system.
@@PorterBNot sure what you're on about with this anti-white conspiracy. I was homeless for around 8 months, and I found hotels and hostels as a mentally ill white man very well provided. Maybe that's just Liverpool
Wonderful comment and not a bit surprising. She's actually helping to bring about her own downfall. She is a major liability in government and never stops pontificating meaningless horrors.
When the guy started talking about they need to stop helping refugees before our own homeless, it's really sad because the resources are there to help both but they're going to the rich and keeping the massive inequalities in our society. The ultra rich intentionally try to set vulnerable people against each other, and often the "help our own homeless first" is brought out as an excuse by people who also never help our own homeless.
@@SpanishLearning-xz1yethe point is we can afford to do both. But neither are handled correctly due to corruption.
Spot on 👏🏾👏🏾
@@SpanishLearning-xz1ye Nothing would be wrong with it. what turns people away and is seen as disgusting and inhuman is the demonisation of refugees or migrants. and the valorisation of groups of people based on ethnicity or class.
the truth is the question is also sideways as if you'll ever take complete care of either there is a stream of poverty, people falling into it and a stream of immigration( economic asylum based etc,) , if you were to ignore one and only approach the other you'd have a crisis in regards to the one neglected, such that some immigrants are going to have priority over the native welfare.
@@SpanishLearning-xz1ye I think who is helped first should be based on need. I'd see vulnerable individuals homed as a priority, regardless of what it says on their passport.
@@robinroberts2568 Extend the welfare state to the whole world so that there is no money left and you can help no one, genius. That mindset is the problem. Virtue signalling prick.
"rich or poor, smart or dumb, it's graveyard anyway" true that
He channelled his Nihilism succinctly, he's humble af.
@@hjm9586 i think calling it nihilism is a bit glib. roman emperors reminded themselves of memento mori. it's not a coping mechanism, it's a truism. i'm not ruling out his being nihilistic, just that it isn't so necessarily.
Yes we all die so me being homeless is nothing on me
Yeah I see where you're coming, and talking about it in that way gets me thinking it could be Stoicism instead of Nihilism@@BOZ_11
It’s Stoicism
@@BOZ_11
On placement as a student nurse I met a man who had such bad schizophrenia he would see swarms of insects crawling the walls. Poor man was terrified and only got "relief" by being on the streets. Huge number of homeless people have mental health issues
I'm sure Suella would use that example as 'evidence' of someone who chose to live on the street. After all, he could've just lived with the insects, right? /s
@katiePetsy
There are people who , no matter what is offered prefer to live on the streets.
No political party has the answer. How many people slept on the streets when Blair and Brown screwed the UK? Homelessness is not a Tory fabrication nor can Starmer offer a solution, in fact it is not high on the Labour party agenda.
The SNP and Plaid devolved administration's cannot solve this problem either.
He likely refused antipsychotic medication that was offered to him, right? It's his 'right' to refuse treatment and it's also his 'right' to suffer the consequences of refusing treatment 🙂
@illegalsmirf You're making the assumption that antipsychotics work in the first place for everyone who takes them (they dont, and usually make you worse, much like antidepressants), and then making the assumption that the person never tried them.
Then you come to the conclusion that he suffers the consequences for turning down medication 🤦♂️
Sounds like something braverman would say
@@thebodykeepsthescore2828 gotta love people who assume antipsychotics, antidepressants and anxiety meds are all these miracle drugs that completely fix someone's brain using space magic.
When it's really more a case of 'damn you're messed up. Try this. It might help. Maybe. I think.' Turns out we're still really bad at fixing brains when they break.
I'm old enough to remember 3 years ago when the government was suddenly able to find accomodation for homeless people because of covid and then chucked them all back out on the street again. That was the "choice"
They did that by forcing hotels to house the homeless.
Which made hotels turn into crack dens overnight
Good luck doing that again.
I bet you wouldn't fancy a weekend in a city premier Inn where half the guests are homeless.
A lot of homeless people refuse shelters. They reject going on the housing list. They have no intentions of getting a job. For whatever reason; maybe it’s mental health, they believe it’s easier to beg or perhaps it’s a reluctancy but Suella is not wrong.
The homeless were only in shelters for covid because they were forced into those shelters. Too many people truly can not grasp the problem. You clearly have no clue what you're up against.
I spent 27 years in post-apartheid South Africa. I am very familiar with homelessness and the various attempts at covering that issue. So often, this sort of journalism is tacky and patronising but your take was a beautifully truthful snapshot of those guys and their daily realities. Thank you for such humanising and earnest journalism on an easily overlooked or over exploited topic.
Sa is owned by China and Russia and run by angry , vengeful, bitter , uneducated Muntoos that want the white man dead . Can you blame them ?.
SA is Fugged forever
So true
1. It’s not (yet); 2. Ramaphosa helped write our Constitution, which is one of the most comprehensive and profound legal documents written in the 20th century. He also co-authored the legal textbook on constitutional law that I and thousands of other people with law degrees, studied from; 3. The number of black people who want whites dead is significantly smaller than the number of whites who are happy to use the “k” word to refer to an ever growing, peaceful and civic-minded black population who, by all means had every right to have an all out civil war in ‘94 but chose to include the likes of you in the nation building process, knowing they would have to put up with your demeaning and small minded mentality for the greater good.
"There is no need to use tents as accommodation in 21st century Britain" - Couldn't agree more, nobody should be in poverty in 21st century Britain, except for the fact that we have a failed government that has failed the people, and will continue to fail the people until we have serious political reform.
I detest the Tories so much.
Working and homeless! The new slogan. It's not always drug addiction that leads to this. We NEED to stop this stereotype. Cost of living, especially rent is far outpacing wages which are not even remotely keeping up.. For people with no roommates or family to move in with and not making more than 75K, it's rough out there. Most times it amazes me greatly how I moved from an average lifestyle to earning over $63k per month, Utter shock is the word. I have understood a lot in the past few years that there are lots of opportunities in the financial market. The only thing is to know where to invest.
I keep wondering how people earn money in financial markets, i tried trading bitcoin on my own made a huge loss and now I'm scared of investing more..
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As someone who was homeless for a short while, the thing that hits you the most is their are no safety nets, every where you turn for help you are castigated, look upon with no respect, you loose all dignity. This Government and previous governments do not understand the homeless problem...
I think you underestimate the callousness of the ruling class. It's fucked by design to keep the working class in line.
@@lenuvianI agree man. It’s all by design. I hate this corrupt system.
@@lenuvianThen move out of that line. Its your choice many of us have done it.
@@barbarahalkyard1901 agreed but it is not as easy as one might think if it was why would we have this problem with so many?
“Money is just another word for slavery.” ~ Travis Ray Hernden
"The upper class: keeps all of the money, pays none of the taxes.
The middle class: pays all of the taxes, does all of the work.
The poor are there...just to scare the shit out of the middle class." -George Carlin
Yea.. good summary
George was always spot on
As a middle class man the idea we do all the work is fucking hilarious, there aren't enough of us for a start!
I work at a telecoms company as a networks engineer. Since 2019-2020 (COVID period), all of the office staff have shifted to working from home which has left all of the office space completely empty. They even leave the buildings heated while there is no one occupying the floor. And there are hundreds of office spaces like this in the company alone in London. Now of course I get that there needs to be security/refurbishment established but knowing there are just empty buildings around and there are people living in the streets, just gives me an awful awful feeling. We CAN accommodate these people if we wanted to. Letting them be homeless during the winter is a choice.
we got everyone off the street during covid so we have proven it can be done
That there just HAS to be one of the worst things about this country. That there are solid, dry and safe buildings just sitting doing nothing while people freeze to death on the streets and decline in physical and mental health. What would it take to annexe some of these buildings and have them staffed by those who have an interest in homelessness and it's repercussions? I get that some folk might start yapping on about problems arising in such an environment but... the criteria for being given a space in one could be worked out as being fair to all and guidelines for residency adhered to. That would be the promise undertaken. Then, folk might start to feel connected again. Seen. Get their dignity back.
I'm 70. I just do NOT recognise this country anymore. Greed, selfishness and apathy. Plus contempt from politicians has turned this once thriving country into a cess pit of multiple disasters. I cannot see it ever being any different. Behind it all is the utterly implacable and insatiable quest for money and power. Where has compassion gone...?
If these people would take their medication, refrain from antisocial behaviour and have a bath now and then they would be far more likely to find accomoodation.
@@illegalsmirfIs that you suella?
How many charming homeless fellas are you putting up at YOUR gaff? 😀@@thebodykeepsthescore2828
We elect far too many people who's only life experience is of heirachy and rich parents, what we need is people/politicians who live these lives before making policy/ideology, in the meantime in london there is a palace with 775 rooms already paid for wouldnt cost the taxpayer any more relatively unused most of the time, its called Buckingham Palace
There's barriers in place so these people can never become MPs don't worry
It's worse than that. Elections are a luxury now, for all the good they did. Our last two prime ministers were elected by almost nobody.
We have representatives that don't represent us.
There’s also a bunch of idle dossers living there known as the ‘royals’.
It's not so much lack of relevant life experience, it's the life experience that they _have_ had. They've come up in a system and a party where the hard work of solving problems means nothing. Far easier to throw red meat to the callous right-wing media and their audience. They've distorted the character of a minority in this country and made them into monsters.
And kick out that big-eared grifter and his horse-faced wife.
As an experiment, we let the people who worked in the homeless shelter in Doetinchem, the Netherlands, sleep outside for a night as homeless people, some of them came back after a few hours crying because it was raining and cold and they couldn't find a place and they had been walking through the city for hours.
i mean, i get how sleeping outside is kind of shit but if it's only 1 night.. to only stay outside for a few hours and then give up on the experiment seems like the quiters aren't the adventurous type and that's putting it extremely mildly. I'm a social worker from the Netherlands that works with homeless people. Also sadly i've had to refuse people a bed for the night pretty regularly. Only in cases of physical aggression though but unfortunately that's a pretty common occurrence.
Homeless people probably also cry for the same reasons but have no one to turn to so aren’t heard. I think when you aren’t hard sometimes you hide your emotions, although sometimes you go the opposite way as well.
One night out in the rain upset them, imagine the profound trauma utter despair caused to those who have been homeless for months or years, too traumatised and dehumanised to even find a way out
When I lived in Bath, I made friends with a number of homeless people, and they were legitimately some of the best people I’ve known. Braverman is truly evil.
They’re not though are they. If they were they wouldn’t be homeless. Homeless people often don’t have contact with family and don’t have any friends and it’s usually because they’re insufferable or burn the bridges they have in their lives
@@SM-fk5or Citation needed.
@@subroy7123 try spending some time around them and you’ll realise how many of them are untrustworthy, drug addicted, violent and thieving. People don’t coincidentally end up alone in the majority of cases. I’ve worked with homeless charities for years, try doing some shifts and you’ll pick up their tendencies before long
@@SM-fk5or That's not a citation. That's just words. Any sources for any of the claims you've made?
@@subroy7123 you can literally go and see for yourself lmao homeless charities are always in need of help. Go ahead and put the time in
"A rich heart may be under a poor coat" - Scottish proverb.
It’s reprehensible that this level of poverty now exists in the UK & Ireland. People used to look at Western Europe as a haven for an excellent quality of life; robust welfare states, extensive employment laws, strong unions, universal healthcare….the list goes on. We’ve been on a rapid self-sabotaging decline for several years now, and it’s deplorable. It won’t be long until we’re as bad as the United States
As the fake Jews won't the white race on it nees
Because multiculturalism doesn't work, just ask Sweden and now we are bringing in boats of migrants to further drive our country into hopelessness.
As bad, I think we are already worse
@@thorselckmo7378 nah, America is still markedly worse than any other developed nation. The poverty statistics are off the Richter scale across the pond. I travel there frequently, and I can categorically tell you that there are far more homeless people, i.e. rough sleepers, especially in the major cities. I suppose it makes sense, considering that the notion of social welfare is totally taboo there and medical aid is borderline inaccessible. Nonetheless, Western Europe, Australia and New Zealand are certainly catching up. The whole world is falling into disrepair. It’s gonna take a miracle to bring us back from this
@@thorselckmo7378I don’t think anybody who’s actually lived in both places would agree with that
Firstly thank you @politicsJOE for making this, it really stirred up some emotion and memories for me. In the 1970’s my parents worked in Psychiatric hospital in the UK, it had around 2500 patients then. My Dad was an occupational therapist and I would often go along with him to help out. The patients would draw or make soft furnishings etc, they had either suffered a complete breakdown through a traumatic life event often leading to substance abuse and many endured schizophrenia and other mental illnesses (many was ex servicemen). I vaguely recall Dad saying that they were unable to function in our world, unable to think they way society expected, incapable of making choices and just stumbled through life minute by hour by day, lost of any cognitive aware of hope. In the 1980’s the Conservative government introduced Care in the Community aimed at ‘allowing’ people with mental illnesses to live at home within their community ‘because that’s the type of caring communities Britain has’ they said. This lead to the closure of most of the Psychiatric hospitals in the UK, including the one my parents worked at and the release of 10,000’s of people into the community over a period of time. I recall hearing that some of the patients I had met committed suicide in later years in their unsupervised lonely environments. The whole policy was said to target the victorian type mental asylums and the way some were mismanaged while saving the tax payer money, the fact is the Government had failed to operate a network of Psychiatric hospitals within the NHS and this seemed like a good option. SO the Home Secretary should know the history of this country and the decisions that have lead to the problems we have with homelessness and understand as my now departed Dad said “unable to function in our world, unable to think they way society expected” might be the reason why they do not choose this life as choice is for the privileged and some have a greater that others. FINALLY in 1988 Margaret Thatcher asked Sir Roy Griffiths to understand an investigation into why ‘Care in the Community’ was not working his conclusion “community care is everybody's distant cousin but nobody's baby” community care was not working because no one wanted the responsibility for it - and so the suffering grew. And Yes they probably would choose a tent over a doorway or even an empty building. If only we could be governed by human beings, empowered to make decisions on our behalf with understanding of a problem then the empathy and honesty to forge a plan to fix it.
@stanleyfamUK. Excellent comment 👍 compassionate, thoughtful, & knowledgeable.
Very good point but from volunteering at a mental health charity I met quite a few who were moved to supported accommodation and thrived in their new found freedom. One person in particular who had spent almost all of their adult life in the mental hospital before it closed because they went to the GP aged 17 and said they’d heard a voice. 30+ years locked away like a prisoner for being honest and seeking help. An utter disgrace. So it’s good for the people who can live in supported accommodation but like you say not so good for the ones who can’t cope in the community.
I'm starting to think Braverman is putting on an act or is saying anything for attention. How can someone be so consumed by hatred.
They're either doing everything they can to help Labour win, or they are being directed by a third party that wants Labour to win. Labour will certainly be at least as compliant as the Tories and probably more so, when it comes to implementing the WEF agenda.
conspiracy nutcase right here@@illegalsmirf
I'm from the East London borough that has the highest homelessness rate in the country (is it still 1 in 22 people without housing???). This video reinforces what I already know!
I've done some volunteering with homeless people and they can be some of the nicest people you can meet, with all their stories and life experiences and I'll say giving them food, asking how they are or giving them money really brightens up their day and it's true, you should treat people they you want to be treated. I mean not only will they feel good that you've gone out of your way to help them but you'll feel good as well as you know that you're making a positive difference to tackle homelessness.
Moreover, if you live in an area where you don't find many homeless people or you don't have enough time to give them something on the go, there's always charities such as Crisis and Shelter you can donate to.
Great reporting, but especially, thanks to Ed for asking about that man’s favourite book. It was great to see his face light up in genuine pleasure about a topic. I slept once on the street in London and that was summer. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.
Yeah, I once did two days to raise money for a homeless charity, that was bad enough in late spring, can't imagine it during the winter.
I work in a homeless hostel and I can tell you now there is no choice period in it people struggle it’s painful I’ve seen people lose limbs from cold
Drug and alcohol addiction are symptoms. If you don't fix the underlying cause, it's extremely difficult for people to overcome addiction. Saying that individuals just need "to take control of their own lives" is extremely reductive and ignorant of reality.
@@moomoocowsly That's a Straw Man of what I said and therefore irrelevant. Furthermore, misrepresenting people with addiction as just not choosing to take control of their own lives doesn't give them hope. It's just a way for you to justify not helping them.
@@moomoocowsly If you were replying to what Gary said, why was it me you tagged? You tagged me with a point I didn't make and responded to me as if I had. That's Straw Manning.
As for giving them the psychological tools, telling them that it's their own fault if they choose to be addicted is the exact opposite of that. By the way, I'm a psychologist. I'm guessing you're not - if you are, you really need to go back to school on this one, because what you're suggesting is way outside of what's considered effective practice.
@@moomoocowsly do you think people choose to be addicts and ruin their lives, most addicts have underlying mental.health problems. It numbs the pain, many pain many become addicts because they are on the streets, how do i know, because i am homeless and no i'm not an addict, i don't even drink.
@@Grim_BeardI wish you all the best in your life, your comments have been very conscise and truth based. I'm no expert just see value in truth
PoliticsJoe team, I appreciate that you didn't leave out his comment about refugees. It was an honest point of view from that individual - and while the anger is missplaced, it's coming from a completely understandble place. But this is what this government does; divide and conquer. The tories will never take responsibility, it's always the fault of the other.
How is it misplaced when they travel through multiple EU countries to get here?
@@danesinfield548because there is no ultimatum between helping either foreign refugees or the domestic homeless problem.
Both can and should be helped, refugees aren’t to blame for the homeless problem.
@danielhoskins4690 The government are actively prioritising asylum seekers. That's not an opinion that's a statement.
@@VPhantom-rf3qo you’re right. That is quite a statement.
There's a bag of 10 sweets on the table. The Tory takes 9 and passes one to the Foreigner, then whispers to the Brit, "The foreigner took your sweet".
Cause in-fighting amongst the poor, so that the rich can thrive, or put another way, divide and conquer.
@@danesinfield548
Who can be so callous as to suggest a person would choose to be poor if they had a better option? How can anyone be so callous?
It's an excuse to do nothing about it. My mother spent decades trying to raise awareness about homelessness and helped a lot of homeless people. Unfortunately, the problem is only getting worse. She used to blame Thatcher but I think she might finally be starting to realise that pretty much all of them don't give a toss.
Choose has to be taken differently in this context. No one chooses to be homeless.
Some people structurally just mess up their lives so much that homelessness is a logical consequence of their actions. Some may not be pro active enough to get out of that situation. Or maybe they're even addicted.
This video is basically moot - the homeless demographic contains some of the most compulsive liars you'll ever find, and that's usually what led them to being in their situation in the first place, one way or another. Say what you want, but I've seen it with my own eyes. Suella may not have had tact, but there's solid truth behind her words.
This almost brought me to tears. Anyone could end up in their situation from no fault of their own. It's discusting that they are basically forgotten about.
Agreed. If can happen to absolutely anyone.
Yeah and anyone could get their act together to overcome it but instead they take the lazy path of being a begging nuisance to society just to fuel their drug and alcohol habits.
@@christophermc2 society doesn’t care about you, stop simping so hard
@@calum1741no it can’t
@@seemourbutts6679 it can’t happen to anyone?
Her comment about 21st century Britain made me laugh. Birmingham City Council has like a 10year waiting list for accommodation
Everyone’s eagerness to get handouts is the problem. Rather than wait 10 years how about people graft and buy their own place. Easily done in a decade.
@SM-fk5or I sort of agree, but my point was more to highlight that she's using 21st century Britain as some kind of superiority when Birmingham has got a failed infrastructure so to ban tents because of 21st century when if you need a home asap in Birmingham you have a ten year wait at present
@@alatty1426 why not move then?
@paddydoyle4234 if your financial circumstances are on the ropes to the point you need housing from the council I think its unlikely you will have funds to move, transportation costs, removals, deposit for the new property and the task of finding a new job
@@alatty1426 as someone who is homeless after leaving my council house, I can tell you that you're wrong.
I am currently deciding whether to go to new zealand for 6 months or invest into a business.
When will people like you stop giving sympathy to those who need nothing more than a kick up the a.rse.
Thank you PolJOE for highlighting this plight, it's sad to see in 2023 that we have such a dire situation as this, it breaks your heart.
I've personally learnt that homeless people just want to be treated as human beings, so next time you see someone sleeping rough, just stop and have a chat if nothing else, let them know that you see them, really listen to what they have to say
“doesnt matter, you rich or poor, you sharp in head or you dumb, is graveyard anyway”
legend
Evil redefined by this shameless women, attacking the venerable instead of helping them .. cruella and Sunak must go
Go back to India or Pakistan where Ever
Where is the courage from liberals who will action question why an individual becomes homeless? It is not because of a government, it is because of individual choices
@@larrygerry985 ?? What’s your thoughts?
@@Evoque786do you know the laws around homelessness and that a council will provide accomodation for anyone declared homeless? Do you ever see kids sleeping rough in England?
@@RELEONSK : have you ever tried to get council house ? That would answer your question. Luckily most people in this land are still compassionate and humans… listen to some people who have gone through difficult times in life, no job, family issues, addiction or other social issues… I was listening to LBC where some people were homeless for while and then perhaps you would refrain from making such absurd remarks
I've worked a job where you come into contact with lots of homeless people 99% of them are addicted to drugs or mentally ill or both.
There are shelters and councils provide accomadation but the first rule is no drugs the second is don't piss your neighbours off. Pretty all the homeless just give up on free accomadation as soon as that's explained to them
Exactly. There are plenty of jobs available and plenty of help for those that need it. Why exactly can't they work like everyone else has to? If you can't due to disability, there are disability benefits.
Systemic problems require systemic solutions. It cannot be on the individual to fix this
Can we all just agree to never let the Tories back into power in our lifetimes… please
I can't believe they were voted in and this is the result
who ever you vote for nothing will change labour and tories are just the same both puppets
The Tories play into people's fears and prejudice, and fear always wins.
Tony Blair has a lot to answer for. All the politicians are the same, they may start off with good intentions but corruption and greed take over, human nature.
Cough cough London Mayor spending £50k on 1 x ULEZ camera...let that sink in
Glad you did these interviews, people need to see the reality of peoples lives and get the actual people who it affects views . People who are homeless do not have enough of a voice. Its absolutely abhorrent for these politicians to say things like "homelessness is a lifestyle choice" and get away with it.
That was really refreshing to hear. So many discuss homelessness without actually asking those on the streets.
It’s honestly vile that they’re taking away tents, just why?!?!? It’s cruel and solves nothing! Homeless people already don’t have it going great, why make it worse?
Next the NHS will be clogged with deathly sick homeless people because they couldn’t even use a tent ⛺️ Bravo 👏 Braverman
For some it is, in many towns you can get houses within 24 hours but if you use drugs or alcohol you get kicked out so many choose to live in the streets to continue the habit. I’ve lived around this and was always amazed how people got accommodation so quickly but then lost it due to stupid reasons. Part of addiction is being in denial though and it’s very hard to change so many stay bitter on the street rather than on housing without drugs because substance abuse is all they have sadly.
"choose to live in the streets to continue the habit."
Addiction isn't a choice, it's hell.
@@treeridersits hell but unless you are a heavy heroin addict there is always the choice of fighting, plenty of people have liberated themselves from heavy drugs even heroin, because their love for their family/themselves was stronger than the addiction
I'm currently homeless. I am full time employed in a relatively well paying job but can't find anywhere to live due to the current housing crises. When I will eventually find a place I know I will be paying around AUD $550 a week rent (£300) which is around 40% of my pre tax income which will mean I will never be able to afford to save up enough to buy a home. Fortunately I have a close knit circle of friends and family who I can stay with until I find accommodation but if I didn't have that I would be living in a tent by now.
didn’t she put up proposals to house asylum seekers in tents a few months ago ?
Great idea. House our own homeless first in hotels. Illegal immigrants are nothing.
My heart goes out to the homeless, we need to solve this problem as a society. Just small units with a little ktichen and shower and toilet, these are people that have worked and contributed to this country , the shame is ours
as an american who was kicked out of home by my father on my 18th birthday i took to reading Frank Herberts Dune books. may sound silly but it eased my mind
It doesn't sound silly at all. It makes sense... escapism as a coping mechanism. We all have forms of escapism to avoid constant pressure and maintain a psychological balance. Watching UK news is actually a form of that for me, since the news in my country would annoy me too much.
Every homeless person has a different story the problem starts when you brand them all the same a lot of their issues start when they are kids unloved neglected or even abused then the drugs issue is another parallel to the story and the snowball effect can happen I've seen houses go to homeless people and they still sleep on the streets because their minds feel safer on the streets even if they aren't physically safer assess each individual 1 by 1 and give this country a proper mental health system.
"Some of them are nice, it's just the majority".
What a damning (and accurate) indictment of modern Britain.
I've an in-law
A international author
No names mentioned for privacy sake
Divorce
he ended up sofa surfing .
He's on his feet now
So if a renowned international author can end up homeless ...anyone can .
It's easy for Braverman to say that "tents are a lifestyle choice"! How dare she! Has she ever "lived in a drafty tent?".
I don't have much money, but I do try helping the homeless, by NOT ignoring them, but stopping for a chat and getting them a drink and some food. And if they have a dog, then I'll get some food and water for the animal as well.
The guy who pointed out that empty buildings could be used for shelter etc. has a point.
The homeless need to be helped and not ignored!!
Well,said.
Dehumanization is being legitimized, right at the top.
If Cruella dosent like tents she can house the homeless in one of her 2nd homes. Problem solved.
I am working within social housing and I see how some people like in these in a video but who are living in social housing , pretending to be a homeless and like to sleep in the streets .
The guy is dead wrong for blaming refugees but I understand his sentiment as he has more reason to misplace blame on them rather than the moron Tory voters who hate them both.
We can help both refugees and homeless. Its a choice to not help them to keep us divided.
He worded it badly but I understand his point. The refugees get temporary housing quite quickly (even if it's horrendous, like the barges etc) whereas these people have been failed by their own government. Everyone's stories are way too different and nuanced to simplify it to a single sentence, but the UK government has failed the UK people for a long time.
So word gets round that you can go to England and the government will give you a house. How's that gonna end up?
Refugees are one thing, illegal eco migrants are another, it pays to know the difference.
It is a difficult problem to get the balance right. No one wants people to go through homelessness. They need to have a way of working towards self sustainability, which is what we try to achieve with migrants who come with nothing. If you just put them all in a massive dorm as he suggests then they will never progress. Yes we need to help them, but how is the question
That scapegoating of the other, in the case of Suella Braverman, homeless people, or 'immigrants' (read: expats if you are white and live abroad as it then doesn't count), or people 'on benefits', is all subterfuge, a distraction from the real thief... this government, government in general; whose purpose it is to maintain the status quo, i.e keep the rich and powerful rich and powerful.
What a nasty nasty woman she seems to be.
Sunak needs to fire Braverman.
The electorate needs to fire the lot...
He won't because a lot of people like her
Do you mean set on fire?
@@nipplehead Well ,they used to do that to witches !
Cruella Braverman is just vile.
I would respectfully ask anyone viewing this reel: when was the last time you spoke to a homeless person? Their dehumanisation is playing into Braverman's hands.
@@moomoocowslyVery anecdotal, saying that it's because of drugs is very ignorant, have you got any evidence to backup your argument and not just your personal experience? By your logic I've never been robbed and nor have my friends been robbed so everyone is a victim of theft or it's their fault they got robbed they shouldn't be at the wrong place at the wrong time.
Sister works full time no mental health no kids etc can’t afford a flat , asked for housing help was declined. Lived in her car for a month before reaching out to family to ask for help. Lives with us all on off , it’s a smoke screen system mere seen to be doing. Homelessness isn’t a choice that bravaman needs to pull her head from her backside
It's honestly the scary reality. how many people would be with out residence if it weren't for friends and family? the nuclearised liberal system has failed and it s facade is barely being held up by historical social institutions and infrastructure. the ruling class will merrily ignore the reality until it comes crashing down upon everyone.
"Im alright jack so sod everyone else"
That was as heartbreaking to watch as I thought it might be. Most of us (myself included) won't have any idea what this type of living does to a person or just how quickly it could happen.
Those poor men are at the end of their tether. Circumstances have driven them to this dire situation. Please offer them targeted professional help. It is not a simple situation,
There are significant numbers of people living on the streets who choose to be there. Fact. I used to work closely with two housing authorities. The staff bent over backwards to help the local homeless but most refused all housing. Occasionally, one or two would agree to move into newly refurbished flats. Within weeks they’d trash the place, ripping out the copper piping to sell. I spoke to a lot of homeless people and, from their mouths, discovered that it frequently suited them to live on the streets. Inconvenient truths. Yes, you may know someone who, knows someone, who says nobody wants to be homeless, but do you actually know the persons real circumstances, or are you just jumping to conclusions?
A Tory claiming that homelessness is a lifestyle choice is like someone claiming that it's a choice to live with cancer as a result of the subsequent nuclear fallout from a hydrogen bomb that they themselves dropped
I want to buy one of these guys a jacket, hot meal and a bottle of water.
I wanna buy the chef guy a book.
I work for a small Harrow based charity called Firm Foundation. Please feel free to donate or volunteer for us. If you're not around the area, please check out for your own local charities and organisations, they will gladly accept your contributions.
Do you have a link to your website please? Thanks for informing. Charity starts at home. NOT IN UKRAINE!@@chrispadwick3796
I want that chef guy to get a cooks or chef job… surely he deserves a chance
Thanks for your hard work & another informative video PoliticsJOE. Homelessness is a blight on our society, especially for such a rich, prosperous country. All those men were incredibly articulate about the problems they face but hearing the gentleman in the camo jacket talk about there not being much to look forward to was particularly saddening to hear. I wish them the very best & hope their situations improve ASAP.
@@DM-ur8vc erm what. All this video does is show you that homelessness is real and it affects people's lives deeply? So sorry to burst your bubble of a perfect world but? This is the reality?
I’m a massive supporter of the homeless ppl, trying to give them a voice in my area. Please do not judge these people, I’ve had a lot of time with street people and I promise you the situation is complicated, and there is always a story behind it. 🙏❤1 love.
Politicians are indifferent to ordinary people whether they’re homeless or not. Wake up
Homelessness breaks my heart, seeing people who have hit hard times on the streets and not getting the help and support they need. People I have come across just need help, it's not a 'life choice.' There are building empty why can they use them to house people on the streets and get them the help and care they deserve.
Not many homeless in Prague, but for the ones there are we hand out wool socks, gloves and hats, which go a long way in keeping people outside in cold weather warm…
I can't believe the guy was blaming refugees for being homeless. That took away my sympathy for him.
I was homeless 7 years ago. If it wasn't for my wife I'd have had nothing. Now things are much better but only because of my wife's family being well off. I got lucky.
10 months volunteering at a Glasgow homeless soup kitchen taught me some homeless can never be normalised. Given a home they spent all benefits on addictions, avoided bills and trashed what social workers worked hard to give them. Without 24 hour supervision ( very expensive and labour-intensive ) they ended back on the street. It saddened and exhausted me. I gave up helping. Yes wonderfully some can be fixed but very few, maybe 30%.
It has to be a two-pronged approach that addresses the short-term issue and the long-term causes that lead to it.
Letting people sleep on the streets during winter is a choice made by those who could be providing them shelter.
In the winter shelters are provided, there are emergency provisions in place that kick in over the winter period.
@@moomoocowslyThat is an absolutely insane condition though.
"Sorry, you need to magically become un-addicted to drugs if you don't want to freeze to death."
@@michaelwoods2672 they provided substitutes to prevent withdrawal, methadone for example.
Otherwise shelters and hostels just become crack houses
@@michaelwoods2672that’s not what he said though? Is it? They have to be in drug rehabilitation. Key word: rehabilitation. Take a second.
Who was the "graveyard guy,". Give him a job as a presenter. I could watch/listen to his take on life all day!
The guy who said open up a floor as a dormitory - has my vote!
Yeah he was cool.
Look at Rishi laughing as he sits beside her. Could someone actually ask Bravermen where she thinks they could be housed, what their options are.
EVIL INVADERS....
I was homeless for 3 years, and volunteered for a few more in a soup kitchen. Well over half are piss takers who made no effort even when things, money, and accommodation was given to them. Those same guys now aggressively beg for money a decade later. Yes, there are some legit people who need help, but by far the most you see are anti social, aggressive, dishonest and are where they are cause of their own choices and actions. It’s insulting to those of us who didn’t beg, steal or lie our way through the day.
Thank you PoliticsJoe for going out and speaking to these individuals whose voices aren’t given a platform enough
Only last week i bought a homeless man outside Aldi a pizza & i asked him where he slept , he had a tent in the nearby park but says if he stays away from it for too long the local council removes it along with his few possessions, he also said the council cannot afford or find a place for him to live.
But we can find a warm hotel & bed & food for almost every illegal entering the country !!! How does that work ?
Homelessness is the one thing that absolutely breaks my heart, because there is just nothing I can do to really help. And it makes me feel guilty for what I have.
You can’t force people to take help who don’t want it, I work with 1-3 homeless people each workday. Maybe 5% take the help offered. The uptake is incredibly low and they are very fussy about their requirements
Stop and have a chat, buy someone a coffee, be kind.
@@Bringon-dw8dxthank you. People sympathise with them without knowing any personally. I volunteered with homeless charities like crisis for years. You realise they’re there because of their addictions and most don’t have any intention of doing better for themselves
@@SM-fk5or the thing that baffled me the most is how fussy street homeless people (and tbh general homeless people) are on location of their FREE property.
@@Bringon-dw8dx prioritising is not of their forte lol
Brilliant segment...show the vileness of this government !!!!!!
i was homeless as a teen in school i got no help had to drop out of school they didnt give a toss had to go to work and try to survive luckily i found my footing and was able to rent a very small apartment. being on the streets was extremally tough trying to find a quite place to sleep so you would not bother anyone and get 2 hours if you are lucky. they have no notion on how hard it is and how you would give anything to have a home.
Absolute 👑 Suella is. She speaks for me. I hate walking past homeless people, especially on my way to work. I get harassed by homeless people
Many homeless have significant mental health problems and addiction issues. These are folks who need assessment and placement in specialized care before even considering independent housing. This is a huge problem in the US now as the vast majority here live paycheck to paycheck for several decades. Everyone is a couple of checks away from living out of their cars these days.
They don't cooperate with treatment what are you supposed to do if someone doesn't want help
@@leonconnelly5303That you Suella?
They closed the asylums! "Care in the community", they called it..
@@sluggi95you clearly don’t work with homeless people.
We pour so much time, money and energy into our homeless population. You can’t fix people who don’t want to be fixed
@@Bringon-dw8dxcompounding complex social, economic and personal determinants into “they choose not to fix themselves” is nice. When a multi-facetted social problem is distilled into a single 6 work explanation, maybe it’s time to reconsider your conclusion.
People like Suella are the reason why people are homeless!
@@DM-ur8vc go stick your nose back up the Tory backside
@DM-ur8vc giving up 'fancy coffee' would solve the problem of homelessness? So, before coffee shops, nobody lived on the street? Yes, that definitely sounds plausible.
My god.
@DM-ur8vc get off your backside and go and do something to sort it out then 🤷🏼♀️ you seem to have all the answers.
@@DM-ur8vc anyone can come up with a mathematical equation to come up with a sum of money that will solve homelessness. MPs like Suella are paid large amounts of money to solve these problems and instead they abuse the system for their own interests. People like you and Suella are the reason people are homeless, not the people on this page bringing these reasons to light.
@@DM-ur8vc unfortunately convicing a whole nation to do charity is impossible, this is where governments need to step in
Being homeless is not a lifestyle choice but taking heroin certainly is.
Stick em in houses, get them off the street and on benefits- and then get them a vocation, it’s not like we can’t afford it.
I understand that some are weak, needy, but a society is judged on how it treats its weak.
Funny how whenever we have a Tory gov. more people 'choose' to be homeless!? She's a monster!
Terrible absolutely terrible, my heart goes out to every single one of those poor men
Heart breaking. These are people just like us and deserve some help. The government should set up homeless shelters for warmth and food instead of sending money abroad to help other countries. Look after these guys who are dying in front of us on our very own streets. Government should be ashamed of themselves.
'It's the staring. That's why I read my book: as long as I don't see them, I don't care.' that's heartbreaking
Simple take away her bank accounts and home month see her life choices
The homeless situation is one of 2 worlds. I knew of some people that was homeless for some time. Amazing people.
There are many unfortunately displaced people down on their luck, desperate, and deserve a shot as much as anyone to make their lives better.
Yet there is also a percentage of “homeless” who prefer the lifestyle. And some beggars in the street that are professional beggars. Who have apartments they sleep in. Yet during the day will get no end of charity from people buying food, drink, cigarettes.
One person I know who was homeless actually rejected someone’s charity to give them food. Demanding money instead. Mostly to feed their addictions.
How to we cure homelessness? Truth is you can’t. But you can look up the root of the problem and see that the problems mostly start waaaayyyy before homelessness even begins.
And all the government actually wants to say about it is to oppress them more by saying they can’t have tents. Disgusting.
It’s a big and complicated issue. Some people deserve it. And some people it actually is a life style choice. All of which can be avoided and made better for everyone. But the government doesn’t want to know. Makes me sick
100% spot on. Been there myself. What saved me was not being in a major city..harder to get food and that for sure but at least you can go into the forest or find a cave or something to sleep in. On the street your always a target. I remember one of my friends in Southampton telling me that a gut was killed. Some kids threw lighter fuel on him and his things and set him on fire. Trouble is he zipped himself into the sleeping bag which is an amateur mistake bless him. Need to be quick to get out just in case. The cold as well in this country is often a damp cold so it soaks into your things, chills right through. I had chest infections near enough constantly. Only coming from a smaller rural place saved me as people knew you from growing up, you were a name. In a city your looked on a garbage but all I can say is, I'd rather spend time with those homeless because they really 'know'. They know reality, those scumbags in ties have no clue.
AS A HOMELESS MYSELF , I NEED A TENT TO SLEEP CLOSER TO THE DRUG DEALERS CAR ....❤
Don’t forget during Covid the streets were cleared and all people were housed temporarily. Homelessness isn’t a personal choice it’s a POLITICAL one.
Please make more of these videos, we need a whole load of representation and focus here.. Sorely needed. Thank you so much for interviewing these beautiful, kind, interesting souls. 💜 May all people have warmth, food, love, to smile again, shelter and decent healthcare.
May the government apologise for the years of horrendous neglect. So ashamed.
#sacksuellabravermannow
All politicians should spend a week on the street and then make policies, they wouldn’t last a single night.
Some people can take a dollar and turn it into millions, others will take that same dollar and flush it.
Not that long ago a few years someone did a documentary about homelessness. He persuaded one guy to try get help. The guy knew it was pointless but went along anyway. He got fobbed off. At the credits they said the guy had died
do you remember the name of the documentary?
@@nodrvgsno it was some years ago..not even the channel