Shame you missed the concept of induction cooking comparisons. induction cooking is the reaction between a coil and the ferrous material ie A POT. that fact that you did not use the same ferrous material says you do not understand the concept :( I love to see an apples for apples comparison.
Another good test would be testing different pans on the one cooker to see current draw ect, as I know different pans can give different results on a 240v induction top
Hence the tests are not anywhere near accurate since they are doing comparisons with an Aluminium pan (with a small steel insert) and a Stainless Pan (less good than a proper steel pan/pot). My experience is some pans are very good and others are not.
Great test, one thing I've discovered, different pans have different thickness base which makes a difference to how they heat up and how they hold their heat (the cycling in and out) I notice you were using different pans so would not be comparing apples to apples Sorry I have IKEA induction cooktops, they are cheap and have heat settings 1 to 9, very basic, but easy and they just work, like one of those you had Keep up the good work, bring on some more y62 trips please
Can’t help but notice why you are talking about the Westinghouse pulsing on and off, the video shows the safiery doing the exact same towards the end. I’ve also noticed over the years that different pans make a difference to heat and power output of the cooktop
Thanks Dave. I thought these things were all more or less the same and was liking the look of the Westinghouse but after watching your tests ordered a Safiery.
On the Westinghouse you were cooking using temperature setting. Does it still cycle on and off with a power level set by wattage? And how big is the simmer circle in a thin pan?
I got a nuwave induction cooker at the Goodwill shop for $6. It was like brand new. Best thing ever for pasta. Just set the temp slightly below boiling and no boilovers.
I really appreciate this video. I currently have a Rivian R1S and it has awesome built in 110W outlets, so looking for some induction options. It’s crazy how “little” of the propulsion battery is used when cooking. It takes a lot more to move the vehicle than it does to warm food. Love your fridge set up too.
interesting you mention levelling. after using an induction for years, having a portable unit ( not fixed) allows us to position it so its level and totally away from the vehicle, so the pan doesn't slide off and cooking splatter/smoke is less of an issue.
Good job & great vid guy’s. I think you should do ur comparison using the same type frypan and you should measure the total watts used by each induction top for a more accurate picture of which is more efficient. Watching amps vs volts is good for a quick picture, but total watts used is a common medium. The time should also be measured against each unit to cook a similar portion each, & this will probably vary according to cooking styles & temps used as well. It was good to see a comparison of 4 induction cookers & how they perform. Thanks
We did a butane v induction test at lake eucumbene in oct where it’s DLL ways windy and induction. Had cooked our snags before butane had even brown the outside.
hi if you compare costs the induction is nuts over the rainbow but when you are on the road ,comfort and convenience comes first last year in fall where at 1900 m in the mountains for 5 days and when cooking we need to have 3 bottles of butane to switch between because they get frozen when in use and the food was not so great because of that ``intermitent cooking`` have a nice one!
Great video. I have the Ikea induction hob. Continually switches on (rapidly heats up) the switches off. Can really achieve a steady constant temperature. Did the Nuwave and the Sifiry also switch on and off?
The different pans make a huge difference too. You will also find the inductions coils of the different stoves are the most important factor. If it is only a 6” coil, it could buckle your pans, as the centre heats up much quicker than the rest of the pan. That is why your steak will always brown in the centre of the pan and not to the side of the pan.
FYI, Ghee is clarified butter which means it starts as butter but it is processed to only leave the fat/oil. Big in Indian cuisine. It isn't the healthiest of oils.
The reason for that is because the magnetic field generated to heat the pan can be dissipated to a (Steel) surface below it, causing the metal surface to also be heated, SOME stainless steel benchtops would be ok, but others would not, most of the portable units should sit tall enough to be ok, but best is to place them on top of a cutting board or something similar.
Dave, I may have missed it. But where did you get that shelf from for the safiry? Also, the slide out under the fridge in Steve’s car. What brand is that?
Dave - have you talked about the bit of kit that joins your 2 DCS batteries together? I had always understood non similar makups and non similar ah/capacities shouldnt be joined. Can you do a vid on the Victron that combines these?
I think I'd still prefer something like the Jetboil basecamp, way better than those cheap butane cookers and spare propane is easy to carry, not having to lay out thousands on a power system to be able to run it is nice as well. I really like the design of that cooker attachment 😉.
Great vid can help me please i have 3 house battery cheap 4000 sine wave inverter cant get my induction hob to work ,But works of land line power .Hob lights up
Which of these will cook with a small pan or pot, i have the westinghouse induction unit but it wont work with my small 12cm diameter Bellman coffee maker
i cant see how you can set the watts and temp otherwise you would set the temp at the highest with the lowest wattage, and we all know more temp needs more watts
How long were you cooking for? Steve's unit used over a quarter of its juice (26%) to fry the 2 batches of barramundi. The slide out shelf and cooktop/sink attachment combo look neat!
Nobody really cares what they look like, it’s how do they perform. The Duxtop 9600LS is considered the best portable induction cooktop with 20 power settings and 20 temperature settings.
like they said, they do it because they can (inferring that it's not because they HAVE to). Also, the little butane units are pretty useless in any sort of wind.
Just back from a week in VHC and totally fed up with useless PoS butane cooker. Tried different ones and this was the best so far but still doesn't hold high temp and completely useless in any wind. Having already invested in an inverter to run a coffee machine, induction cooker definitely looking attractive.
@@billroach2393 what a load of baloney I've been using them for 35 years without a hitch. There are good ones on the market besides the cheap Aldi ones. LOL Don't you know how to make a quick windbreaker. It seems you all have more dollars than sense and you wonder why you can't afford a house. LOL LOOOSERS
@@billroach2393 BS AGAIN. I'm mega rich but that means nothing fool. Who cares I got better cars and boats and you can afford it's about camping skills with minimal equipment if you want luxuries go to five star hotel or better still get yourself a Caravan with all that stuff in it and more. You sound like an ignoramus.
Yeah no. You guys should have used, identical matching, saucepans. You didn't. So? I'm really not certain what you were trying to demonstrate here? Okay. You can cook with induction, cook tops. Congratulations. I have a pair of those, NUWAVE's. I bought about 10 years ago. Those, have been out a while. I like their features. I like their more compact footprint. I don't need pretty, rectangular cooktop. The saucepans are round! And so round, makes more sense. Why would you put a, round saucepan on a square Cooktop? Does that make it look better? Yeah no. It does not. And so when it comes to a, Motorhome. I don't think it's a good idea. To have live flame. Inside a largely, wooden and plastic constructed motor home. As they get very flammable. And there is no flame. With an introduction cooktop. It is just far safer. Without propane onboard. I don't particularly care for, propane. It's a gigantic bomb. And too many go up in flames. I've been an, Electronic Technician, for over 5 decades. I, deal in, Electricity. Not flames. Flames are for the, Barbecue. Outside the vehicle. We use electricity. Inside the vehicle. My water is heated with electricity. My heat and air conditioning are from electricity. And rays of the sun are free. Propane is from dead dinosaurs again. Even if it burns clean. It's still burning. It's still producing carbon dioxide. For three solar electricity is better. And storage gizmos called batteries. Of which we have a wide variety to choose from. From the oldest lead acid. To the newest lithium iron phosphate. And everything in between. Right on the Nickel. Without much Carbon and Zinc. And only some Cadmium if you want to poison somebody. Lithium if you are, Schizophrenic. Bipolar or what ever. Solar if you are smart. As there is a lot of, Property on top of the roofs of Motorhomes. For solar. Along with additional portable panels. And the rays are all free. From fusion power. One thing we don't have to pay for. And knowing that. Why would you use anything else? You save the planet with solar. Not with propane. Not with Lithium. We have to do better than this. And so you guys can do, Culinary Enhanced, Tailgate Parties. Without burning down your cars. Congratulations. Guinness, is good for you. It worked. But it's not beer. And it's warm. I don't know what's wrong with you guys? Nobody knows what a cold beer is. Except in the USA. Designed for hot weather desert, consumption. Thick brown warm beer is not. I mean come on guys? You don't have much in the way of hot weather in England. What do you guys know about cold beer? Nothing! So I don't think much of guys who drink warm beer. Warm thick, brown soupy beer. Yeah that's not beer. Though it might be beer fit for a, Queen? But she is dead. And Charlie's, Dick is going to fall off soon. So much for the Playboy, Princely King. And marriage trashing, Camilla. What a nice black widow she is. How can, Billy and Harry, even look at her? She's the reason, their mother is dead. And what do you say to that douche bag? Queen consort? Really? Hey lady you killed our mother! That's what they should say to her. And how do you get her out of the Palace? She does not belong there. King daddy is nuts. The prostate cancer has gotten to his brain. Which he never had to begin with. Billy, need to step up. And say it... look here dad. I'm not going to wait for you to get as old as grandma before I take over. You're done. It's my turn now. Grandma made you wait, too long. That's when Billy needs to do. Or hand it off to Harry. Which Billy will never do. Billy is just as screwed up as daddy. Billy will crash England. And he'll end up stepping down. Leaving a void. And soon England will, fall. They have become fragmented. They want kings and queens that serve, no purpose. Time to move forward in time. One more time. And bye-bye Church of England. Hello modern freedom fighters. Nobody needs to be ruled by religion anymore. It doesn't work in a modern society. As we have science, psychology and mathematics. The new trifecta. To run with. As we will all have to come together. To stop Russia. To stop China. To stop North Korea. To stop Congo. To stop Haiti. To stop Venezuela. To stop Brazil. We have a lot to keep us occupied. And keep them, occupied. Since Donnie has opened up the floodgates. For all the bad boys around the world. To be running off the rails like Donnie. And they do not know what they are about to receive. Truncation of brain. Their brains will be removed. Forcefully. They don't know how to use them anyhow. We will study them. To see what went wrong. It's called an autopsy. And it must be performed on all of these Dictators. So we will have to round them up. And gas them. Neutralize them. Permanently. And study their brain matter. For years to come. When to determine what went wrong. And why some Homo sapiens insist on being Dictators? We will have to dissect their brains. Posthaste. The world is getting smaller. And we need to be done with crazed Dictators. They will have to be evicted, from planet Earth. RemyRAD
Shame you missed the concept of induction cooking comparisons. induction cooking is the reaction between a coil and the ferrous material ie A POT. that fact that you did not use the same ferrous material says you do not understand the concept :( I love to see an apples for apples comparison.
Another good test would be testing different pans on the one cooker to see current draw ect, as I know different pans can give different results on a 240v induction top
Hence the tests are not anywhere near accurate since they are doing comparisons with an Aluminium pan (with a small steel insert) and a Stainless Pan (less good than a proper steel pan/pot). My experience is some pans are very good and others are not.
Safiery seems good, and that’s good because that’s what our next van will have in it. Cheers for the info.
Best part about induction you can cook in any weather conditions
I got a Kmart induction off a mate for nothing when I got my patrol and it’s been brilliant. Never had it over 1200w for cooking
Great test, one thing I've discovered, different pans have different thickness base which makes a difference to how they heat up and how they hold their heat (the cycling in and out)
I notice you were using different pans so would not be comparing apples to apples
Sorry
I have IKEA induction cooktops, they are cheap and have heat settings 1 to 9, very basic, but easy and they just work, like one of those you had
Keep up the good work, bring on some more y62 trips please
the more iron in the pan the better, as the system works on magnetism my home induction cooktop loves cast iron pots and pans they heat up super quick
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Can’t help but notice why you are talking about the Westinghouse pulsing on and off, the video shows the safiery doing the exact same towards the end. I’ve also noticed over the years that different pans make a difference to heat and power output of the cooktop
Thanks Dave. I thought these things were all more or less the same and was liking the look of the Westinghouse but after watching your tests ordered a Safiery.
On the Westinghouse you were cooking using temperature setting. Does it still cycle on and off with a power level set by wattage? And how big is the simmer circle in a thin pan?
I got a nuwave induction cooker at the Goodwill shop for $6.
It was like brand new.
Best thing ever for pasta.
Just set the temp slightly below boiling and no boilovers.
I really appreciate this video. I currently have a Rivian R1S and it has awesome built in 110W outlets, so looking for some induction options. It’s crazy how “little” of the propulsion battery is used when cooking. It takes a lot more to move the vehicle than it does to warm food. Love your fridge set up too.
interesting you mention levelling. after using an induction for years, having a portable unit ( not fixed) allows us to position it so its level and totally away from the vehicle, so the pan doesn't slide off and cooking splatter/smoke is less of an issue.
Good job & great vid guy’s. I think you should do ur comparison using the same type frypan and you should measure the total watts used by each induction top for a more accurate picture of which is more efficient. Watching amps vs volts is good for a quick picture, but total watts used is a common medium.
The time should also be measured against each unit to cook a similar portion each, & this will probably vary according to cooking styles & temps used as well. It was good to see a comparison of 4 induction cookers & how they perform. Thanks
I love the cost breakdown 🤣🤣🤣
$30 butane to $100 induction but 3k to run it. Steve’s giggle cracked me up 😂 awesome job lads ✌️
We did a butane v induction test at lake eucumbene in oct where it’s DLL ways windy and induction. Had cooked our snags before butane had even brown the outside.
@@chopiesel oh yeah a slight breeze will kill the butane let alone any real wind 🤣
hi if you compare costs the induction is nuts over the rainbow but when you are on the road ,comfort and convenience comes first
last year in fall where at 1900 m in the mountains for 5 days and when cooking we need to have 3 bottles of butane to switch between because they get frozen when in use and the food was not so great because of that ``intermitent cooking``
have a nice one!
Qe use the NUWAVE in the caravan and at home its great cause you can move it around and very easy to use. Never going back to gas again.
Great video. I have the Ikea induction hob. Continually switches on (rapidly heats up) the switches off. Can really achieve a steady constant temperature. Did the Nuwave and the Sifiry also switch on and off?
Yeah, especially the Safiery
Would it be better with a cast iron pan? Or don't they work so well on induction?.
If there is iron in it, it works 👌
The different pans make a huge difference too. You will also find the inductions coils of the different stoves are the most important factor. If it is only a 6” coil, it could buckle your pans, as the centre heats up much quicker than the rest of the pan. That is why your steak will always brown in the centre of the pan and not to the side of the pan.
Cordia and Hyundai N - not bad Dave!
FYI, Ghee is clarified butter which means it starts as butter but it is processed to only leave the fat/oil. Big in Indian cuisine. It isn't the healthiest of oils.
Dietary fat isn't unhealthy, garbage butter substitutes like margarine are.
Not sure how much it matters, but my Westinghouse unit has a warning label that states NOT to use it on a metal surface.
The reason for that is because the magnetic field generated to heat the pan can be dissipated to a (Steel) surface below it, causing the metal surface to also be heated, SOME stainless steel benchtops would be ok, but others would not, most of the portable units should sit tall enough to be ok, but best is to place them on top of a cutting board or something similar.
i found cooking on low with a lid wooks well. Thats what I do when camping, helps keep the heat in the food and goes golden brown.
I worked in a Westinghouse power plant and we had the slogan...
Westinghouse... you can get better but you can't pay more.
Dave, I may have missed it. But where did you get that shelf from for the safiry? Also, the slide out under the fridge in Steve’s car. What brand is that?
Shelf is Kaon, Safiery surround will be our own DASH product. And we’ll be selling the Evakool 40L drawer fridges very soon
@@DASHOffRoad thanks heaps! You guys are making my wallet very lite!
Just wondering if pan choice could make any difference
Dave - have you talked about the bit of kit that joins your 2 DCS batteries together? I had always understood non similar makups and non similar ah/capacities shouldnt be joined. Can you do a vid on the Victron that combines these?
Yup, there is one coming up at the end of this week I reckon
@@DASHOffRoad 🙏🏻🍻
and u need to have equal food in equal pans for a fair test
I think I'd still prefer something like the Jetboil basecamp, way better than those cheap butane cookers and spare propane is easy to carry, not having to lay out thousands on a power system to be able to run it is nice as well. I really like the design of that cooker attachment 😉.
Good info, where do you get the Safiery? Not a local pick up??
From safiery on the Gold Coast QLD.
Great vid can help me please i have 3 house battery cheap 4000 sine wave inverter cant get my induction hob to work ,But works of land line power .Hob lights up
Which of these will cook with a small pan or pot, i have the westinghouse induction unit but it wont work with my small 12cm diameter Bellman coffee maker
Any chance you know what model the Safiery is. Thanks
Will you be offering Steve’s setup as a complete package through Dash OffRoad?
Yes, working on it as we speak
Well done guys great test surprising results Oscar
Nuwave rocks !!!
I love mine !!!
Nice video. Thanks!
Im running my induction cooker off a $600 LFP battery from Pecron. $3000 seems excessive
Any idea what the safety is worth now? Looks like $275
Yep, $275 vs $100... you'd want it to be better!
Problem with gas cooktop: when inside the van there is danger of gas poisoning, when outdoor need to shield from the wind.
Nice
That Nuwave looks like a disaster waiting to happen if something spills or boils over.
Where is the clip on table from?
It will become a DASH product very soon 👌
@@DASHOffRoad awesome!
Can you pull the Cordia out please I miss mine 😢
Haha. The Cordia doesn’t make too many appearances 😅
@@DASHOffRoad I sold mine years ago to some guy in Adelaide. I put a 4G63 in it 😎 it was a little weapon.
Wow ! Cordia turbo ! 😉
i cant see how you can set the watts and temp otherwise you would set the temp at the highest with the lowest wattage, and we all know more temp needs more watts
How long were you cooking for? Steve's unit used over a quarter of its juice (26%) to fry the 2 batches of barramundi.
The slide out shelf and cooktop/sink attachment combo look neat!
That would probably be about right. Without driving and recharging the battery you would probably only get 4-5 cooks from a 100ah battery I reckon
the pans should have been the same
wattage equals temperature u cant separate
ghee, after coco the best !
have you blokes ever been on an African safari? suh- far-ee
Negative
Nobody really cares what they look like, it’s how do they perform. The Duxtop 9600LS is considered the best portable induction cooktop with 20 power settings and 20 temperature settings.
No offence guys but that's over kill. The portable gas stove beats it hands down for cost and portability it's only camping not long term.
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like they said, they do it because they can (inferring that it's not because they HAVE to). Also, the little butane units are pretty useless in any sort of wind.
Just back from a week in VHC and totally fed up with useless PoS butane cooker. Tried different ones and this was the best so far but still doesn't hold high temp and completely useless in any wind. Having already invested in an inverter to run a coffee machine, induction cooker definitely looking attractive.
@@billroach2393 what a load of baloney I've been using them for 35 years without a hitch.
There are good ones on the market besides the cheap Aldi ones. LOL
Don't you know how to make a quick windbreaker.
It seems you all have more dollars than sense and you wonder why you can't afford a house.
LOL LOOOSERS
@@billroach2393 BS AGAIN.
I'm mega rich but that means nothing fool. Who cares I got better cars and boats and you can afford it's about camping skills with minimal equipment if you want luxuries go to five star hotel or better still get yourself a Caravan with all that stuff in it and more.
You sound like an ignoramus.
@@billroach2393 LOL
Take your face off the Camara
Yeah no. You guys should have used, identical matching, saucepans. You didn't. So? I'm really not certain what you were trying to demonstrate here? Okay. You can cook with induction, cook tops. Congratulations.
I have a pair of those, NUWAVE's. I bought about 10 years ago. Those, have been out a while. I like their features. I like their more compact footprint. I don't need pretty, rectangular cooktop. The saucepans are round! And so round, makes more sense. Why would you put a, round saucepan on a square Cooktop? Does that make it look better? Yeah no. It does not.
And so when it comes to a, Motorhome. I don't think it's a good idea. To have live flame. Inside a largely, wooden and plastic constructed motor home. As they get very flammable. And there is no flame. With an introduction cooktop. It is just far safer. Without propane onboard. I don't particularly care for, propane. It's a gigantic bomb. And too many go up in flames.
I've been an, Electronic Technician, for over 5 decades. I, deal in, Electricity. Not flames. Flames are for the, Barbecue. Outside the vehicle. We use electricity. Inside the vehicle. My water is heated with electricity. My heat and air conditioning are from electricity. And rays of the sun are free. Propane is from dead dinosaurs again. Even if it burns clean. It's still burning. It's still producing carbon dioxide. For three solar electricity is better. And storage gizmos called batteries. Of which we have a wide variety to choose from. From the oldest lead acid. To the newest lithium iron phosphate. And everything in between. Right on the Nickel. Without much Carbon and Zinc. And only some Cadmium if you want to poison somebody. Lithium if you are, Schizophrenic. Bipolar or what ever. Solar if you are smart. As there is a lot of, Property on top of the roofs of Motorhomes. For solar. Along with additional portable panels. And the rays are all free. From fusion power. One thing we don't have to pay for. And knowing that. Why would you use anything else? You save the planet with solar. Not with propane. Not with Lithium. We have to do better than this.
And so you guys can do, Culinary Enhanced, Tailgate Parties. Without burning down your cars. Congratulations. Guinness, is good for you. It worked. But it's not beer. And it's warm. I don't know what's wrong with you guys? Nobody knows what a cold beer is. Except in the USA. Designed for hot weather desert, consumption. Thick brown warm beer is not. I mean come on guys? You don't have much in the way of hot weather in England. What do you guys know about cold beer? Nothing!
So I don't think much of guys who drink warm beer. Warm thick, brown soupy beer. Yeah that's not beer. Though it might be beer fit for a, Queen? But she is dead. And Charlie's, Dick is going to fall off soon. So much for the Playboy, Princely King. And marriage trashing, Camilla. What a nice black widow she is. How can, Billy and Harry, even look at her? She's the reason, their mother is dead. And what do you say to that douche bag? Queen consort? Really? Hey lady you killed our mother! That's what they should say to her. And how do you get her out of the Palace? She does not belong there. King daddy is nuts. The prostate cancer has gotten to his brain. Which he never had to begin with. Billy, need to step up. And say it... look here dad. I'm not going to wait for you to get as old as grandma before I take over. You're done. It's my turn now. Grandma made you wait, too long. That's when Billy needs to do. Or hand it off to Harry. Which Billy will never do. Billy is just as screwed up as daddy. Billy will crash England. And he'll end up stepping down. Leaving a void.
And soon England will, fall. They have become fragmented. They want kings and queens that serve, no purpose. Time to move forward in time. One more time. And bye-bye Church of England. Hello modern freedom fighters. Nobody needs to be ruled by religion anymore. It doesn't work in a modern society. As we have science, psychology and mathematics. The new trifecta. To run with.
As we will all have to come together. To stop Russia. To stop China. To stop North Korea. To stop Congo. To stop Haiti. To stop Venezuela. To stop Brazil. We have a lot to keep us occupied. And keep them, occupied.
Since Donnie has opened up the floodgates. For all the bad boys around the world. To be running off the rails like Donnie. And they do not know what they are about to receive. Truncation of brain. Their brains will be removed. Forcefully. They don't know how to use them anyhow. We will study them. To see what went wrong. It's called an autopsy. And it must be performed on all of these Dictators. So we will have to round them up. And gas them. Neutralize them. Permanently. And study their brain matter. For years to come. When to determine what went wrong. And why some Homo sapiens insist on being Dictators? We will have to dissect their brains. Posthaste.
The world is getting smaller. And we need to be done with crazed Dictators. They will have to be evicted, from planet Earth.
RemyRAD
Wow… we’re from Australia btw