Shame you missed the concept of induction cooking comparisons. induction cooking is the reaction between a coil and the ferrous material ie A POT. that fact that you did not use the same ferrous material says you do not understand the concept :( I love to see an apples for apples comparison.
Thanks Dave. I thought these things were all more or less the same and was liking the look of the Westinghouse but after watching your tests ordered a Safiery.
I really appreciate this video. I currently have a Rivian R1S and it has awesome built in 110W outlets, so looking for some induction options. It’s crazy how “little” of the propulsion battery is used when cooking. It takes a lot more to move the vehicle than it does to warm food. Love your fridge set up too.
We did a butane v induction test at lake eucumbene in oct where it’s DLL ways windy and induction. Had cooked our snags before butane had even brown the outside.
Good job & great vid guy’s. I think you should do ur comparison using the same type frypan and you should measure the total watts used by each induction top for a more accurate picture of which is more efficient. Watching amps vs volts is good for a quick picture, but total watts used is a common medium. The time should also be measured against each unit to cook a similar portion each, & this will probably vary according to cooking styles & temps used as well. It was good to see a comparison of 4 induction cookers & how they perform. Thanks
Another good test would be testing different pans on the one cooker to see current draw ect, as I know different pans can give different results on a 240v induction top
Hence the tests are not anywhere near accurate since they are doing comparisons with an Aluminium pan (with a small steel insert) and a Stainless Pan (less good than a proper steel pan/pot). My experience is some pans are very good and others are not.
Can’t help but notice why you are talking about the Westinghouse pulsing on and off, the video shows the safiery doing the exact same towards the end. I’ve also noticed over the years that different pans make a difference to heat and power output of the cooktop
Great test, one thing I've discovered, different pans have different thickness base which makes a difference to how they heat up and how they hold their heat (the cycling in and out) I notice you were using different pans so would not be comparing apples to apples Sorry I have IKEA induction cooktops, they are cheap and have heat settings 1 to 9, very basic, but easy and they just work, like one of those you had Keep up the good work, bring on some more y62 trips please
interesting you mention levelling. after using an induction for years, having a portable unit ( not fixed) allows us to position it so its level and totally away from the vehicle, so the pan doesn't slide off and cooking splatter/smoke is less of an issue.
I got a nuwave induction cooker at the Goodwill shop for $6. It was like brand new. Best thing ever for pasta. Just set the temp slightly below boiling and no boilovers.
The different pans make a huge difference too. You will also find the inductions coils of the different stoves are the most important factor. If it is only a 6” coil, it could buckle your pans, as the centre heats up much quicker than the rest of the pan. That is why your steak will always brown in the centre of the pan and not to the side of the pan.
Which of these will cook with a small pan or pot, i have the westinghouse induction unit but it wont work with my small 12cm diameter Bellman coffee maker
The reason for that is because the magnetic field generated to heat the pan can be dissipated to a (Steel) surface below it, causing the metal surface to also be heated, SOME stainless steel benchtops would be ok, but others would not, most of the portable units should sit tall enough to be ok, but best is to place them on top of a cutting board or something similar.
FYI, Ghee is clarified butter which means it starts as butter but it is processed to only leave the fat/oil. Big in Indian cuisine. It isn't the healthiest of oils.
Great vid can help me please i have 3 house battery cheap 4000 sine wave inverter cant get my induction hob to work ,But works of land line power .Hob lights up
Great video. I have the Ikea induction hob. Continually switches on (rapidly heats up) the switches off. Can really achieve a steady constant temperature. Did the Nuwave and the Sifiry also switch on and off?
Dave - have you talked about the bit of kit that joins your 2 DCS batteries together? I had always understood non similar makups and non similar ah/capacities shouldnt be joined. Can you do a vid on the Victron that combines these?
On the Westinghouse you were cooking using temperature setting. Does it still cycle on and off with a power level set by wattage? And how big is the simmer circle in a thin pan?
Dave, I may have missed it. But where did you get that shelf from for the safiry? Also, the slide out under the fridge in Steve’s car. What brand is that?
I think I'd still prefer something like the Jetboil basecamp, way better than those cheap butane cookers and spare propane is easy to carry, not having to lay out thousands on a power system to be able to run it is nice as well. I really like the design of that cooker attachment 😉.
i cant see how you can set the watts and temp otherwise you would set the temp at the highest with the lowest wattage, and we all know more temp needs more watts
How long were you cooking for? Steve's unit used over a quarter of its juice (26%) to fry the 2 batches of barramundi. The slide out shelf and cooktop/sink attachment combo look neat!
Nobody really cares what they look like, it’s how do they perform. The Duxtop 9600LS is considered the best portable induction cooktop with 20 power settings and 20 temperature settings.
like they said, they do it because they can (inferring that it's not because they HAVE to). Also, the little butane units are pretty useless in any sort of wind.
Just back from a week in VHC and totally fed up with useless PoS butane cooker. Tried different ones and this was the best so far but still doesn't hold high temp and completely useless in any wind. Having already invested in an inverter to run a coffee machine, induction cooker definitely looking attractive.
@@billroach2393 what a load of baloney I've been using them for 35 years without a hitch. There are good ones on the market besides the cheap Aldi ones. LOL Don't you know how to make a quick windbreaker. It seems you all have more dollars than sense and you wonder why you can't afford a house. LOL LOOOSERS
@@billroach2393 BS AGAIN. I'm mega rich but that means nothing fool. Who cares I got better cars and boats and you can afford it's about camping skills with minimal equipment if you want luxuries go to five star hotel or better still get yourself a Caravan with all that stuff in it and more. You sound like an ignoramus.
Shame you missed the concept of induction cooking comparisons. induction cooking is the reaction between a coil and the ferrous material ie A POT. that fact that you did not use the same ferrous material says you do not understand the concept :( I love to see an apples for apples comparison.
Thanks Dave. I thought these things were all more or less the same and was liking the look of the Westinghouse but after watching your tests ordered a Safiery.
Safiery seems good, and that’s good because that’s what our next van will have in it. Cheers for the info.
Best part about induction you can cook in any weather conditions
I really appreciate this video. I currently have a Rivian R1S and it has awesome built in 110W outlets, so looking for some induction options. It’s crazy how “little” of the propulsion battery is used when cooking. It takes a lot more to move the vehicle than it does to warm food. Love your fridge set up too.
I love the cost breakdown 🤣🤣🤣
$30 butane to $100 induction but 3k to run it. Steve’s giggle cracked me up 😂 awesome job lads ✌️
We did a butane v induction test at lake eucumbene in oct where it’s DLL ways windy and induction. Had cooked our snags before butane had even brown the outside.
@@chopiesel oh yeah a slight breeze will kill the butane let alone any real wind 🤣
Good job & great vid guy’s. I think you should do ur comparison using the same type frypan and you should measure the total watts used by each induction top for a more accurate picture of which is more efficient. Watching amps vs volts is good for a quick picture, but total watts used is a common medium.
The time should also be measured against each unit to cook a similar portion each, & this will probably vary according to cooking styles & temps used as well. It was good to see a comparison of 4 induction cookers & how they perform. Thanks
I got a Kmart induction off a mate for nothing when I got my patrol and it’s been brilliant. Never had it over 1200w for cooking
Another good test would be testing different pans on the one cooker to see current draw ect, as I know different pans can give different results on a 240v induction top
Hence the tests are not anywhere near accurate since they are doing comparisons with an Aluminium pan (with a small steel insert) and a Stainless Pan (less good than a proper steel pan/pot). My experience is some pans are very good and others are not.
Can’t help but notice why you are talking about the Westinghouse pulsing on and off, the video shows the safiery doing the exact same towards the end. I’ve also noticed over the years that different pans make a difference to heat and power output of the cooktop
Great test, one thing I've discovered, different pans have different thickness base which makes a difference to how they heat up and how they hold their heat (the cycling in and out)
I notice you were using different pans so would not be comparing apples to apples
Sorry
I have IKEA induction cooktops, they are cheap and have heat settings 1 to 9, very basic, but easy and they just work, like one of those you had
Keep up the good work, bring on some more y62 trips please
the more iron in the pan the better, as the system works on magnetism my home induction cooktop loves cast iron pots and pans they heat up super quick
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Well done guys great test surprising results Oscar
Cordia and Hyundai N - not bad Dave!
Nice video. Thanks!
interesting you mention levelling. after using an induction for years, having a portable unit ( not fixed) allows us to position it so its level and totally away from the vehicle, so the pan doesn't slide off and cooking splatter/smoke is less of an issue.
Qe use the NUWAVE in the caravan and at home its great cause you can move it around and very easy to use. Never going back to gas again.
I got a nuwave induction cooker at the Goodwill shop for $6.
It was like brand new.
Best thing ever for pasta.
Just set the temp slightly below boiling and no boilovers.
The different pans make a huge difference too. You will also find the inductions coils of the different stoves are the most important factor. If it is only a 6” coil, it could buckle your pans, as the centre heats up much quicker than the rest of the pan. That is why your steak will always brown in the centre of the pan and not to the side of the pan.
i found cooking on low with a lid wooks well. Thats what I do when camping, helps keep the heat in the food and goes golden brown.
I worked in a Westinghouse power plant and we had the slogan...
Westinghouse... you can get better but you can't pay more.
Which of these will cook with a small pan or pot, i have the westinghouse induction unit but it wont work with my small 12cm diameter Bellman coffee maker
Just wondering if pan choice could make any difference
Not sure how much it matters, but my Westinghouse unit has a warning label that states NOT to use it on a metal surface.
The reason for that is because the magnetic field generated to heat the pan can be dissipated to a (Steel) surface below it, causing the metal surface to also be heated, SOME stainless steel benchtops would be ok, but others would not, most of the portable units should sit tall enough to be ok, but best is to place them on top of a cutting board or something similar.
FYI, Ghee is clarified butter which means it starts as butter but it is processed to only leave the fat/oil. Big in Indian cuisine. It isn't the healthiest of oils.
Dietary fat isn't unhealthy, garbage butter substitutes like margarine are.
Nice
Nuwave rocks !!!
I love mine !!!
Great vid can help me please i have 3 house battery cheap 4000 sine wave inverter cant get my induction hob to work ,But works of land line power .Hob lights up
Great video. I have the Ikea induction hob. Continually switches on (rapidly heats up) the switches off. Can really achieve a steady constant temperature. Did the Nuwave and the Sifiry also switch on and off?
Yeah, especially the Safiery
Any chance you know what model the Safiery is. Thanks
Would it be better with a cast iron pan? Or don't they work so well on induction?.
If there is iron in it, it works 👌
Dave - have you talked about the bit of kit that joins your 2 DCS batteries together? I had always understood non similar makups and non similar ah/capacities shouldnt be joined. Can you do a vid on the Victron that combines these?
Yup, there is one coming up at the end of this week I reckon
@@DASHOffRoad 🙏🏻🍻
On the Westinghouse you were cooking using temperature setting. Does it still cycle on and off with a power level set by wattage? And how big is the simmer circle in a thin pan?
and u need to have equal food in equal pans for a fair test
Dave, I may have missed it. But where did you get that shelf from for the safiry? Also, the slide out under the fridge in Steve’s car. What brand is that?
Shelf is Kaon, Safiery surround will be our own DASH product. And we’ll be selling the Evakool 40L drawer fridges very soon
@@DASHOffRoad thanks heaps! You guys are making my wallet very lite!
Im running my induction cooker off a $600 LFP battery from Pecron. $3000 seems excessive
Good info, where do you get the Safiery? Not a local pick up??
From safiery on the Gold Coast QLD.
I think I'd still prefer something like the Jetboil basecamp, way better than those cheap butane cookers and spare propane is easy to carry, not having to lay out thousands on a power system to be able to run it is nice as well. I really like the design of that cooker attachment 😉.
Wow ! Cordia turbo ! 😉
Will you be offering Steve’s setup as a complete package through Dash OffRoad?
Yes, working on it as we speak
Any idea what the safety is worth now? Looks like $275
Yep, $275 vs $100... you'd want it to be better!
Where is the clip on table from?
It will become a DASH product very soon 👌
@@DASHOffRoad awesome!
i cant see how you can set the watts and temp otherwise you would set the temp at the highest with the lowest wattage, and we all know more temp needs more watts
Can you pull the Cordia out please I miss mine 😢
Haha. The Cordia doesn’t make too many appearances 😅
@@DASHOffRoad I sold mine years ago to some guy in Adelaide. I put a 4G63 in it 😎 it was a little weapon.
Problem with gas cooktop: when inside the van there is danger of gas poisoning, when outdoor need to shield from the wind.
ghee, after coco the best !
How long were you cooking for? Steve's unit used over a quarter of its juice (26%) to fry the 2 batches of barramundi.
The slide out shelf and cooktop/sink attachment combo look neat!
That would probably be about right. Without driving and recharging the battery you would probably only get 4-5 cooks from a 100ah battery I reckon
wattage equals temperature u cant separate
the pans should have been the same
That Nuwave looks like a disaster waiting to happen if something spills or boils over.
have you blokes ever been on an African safari? suh- far-ee
Negative
Nobody really cares what they look like, it’s how do they perform. The Duxtop 9600LS is considered the best portable induction cooktop with 20 power settings and 20 temperature settings.
No offence guys but that's over kill. The portable gas stove beats it hands down for cost and portability it's only camping not long term.
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like they said, they do it because they can (inferring that it's not because they HAVE to). Also, the little butane units are pretty useless in any sort of wind.
Just back from a week in VHC and totally fed up with useless PoS butane cooker. Tried different ones and this was the best so far but still doesn't hold high temp and completely useless in any wind. Having already invested in an inverter to run a coffee machine, induction cooker definitely looking attractive.
@@billroach2393 what a load of baloney I've been using them for 35 years without a hitch.
There are good ones on the market besides the cheap Aldi ones. LOL
Don't you know how to make a quick windbreaker.
It seems you all have more dollars than sense and you wonder why you can't afford a house.
LOL LOOOSERS
@@billroach2393 BS AGAIN.
I'm mega rich but that means nothing fool. Who cares I got better cars and boats and you can afford it's about camping skills with minimal equipment if you want luxuries go to five star hotel or better still get yourself a Caravan with all that stuff in it and more.
You sound like an ignoramus.
@@billroach2393 LOL
Take your face off the Camara