NEW ELECTRIC VAN from BYD with hints of The Arrival Van
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- @BYDEurope Will be launching a LARGE VAN that will of course be all electric! You cant escape the fact that it is remarkably similar to the @ARRIVALUK Van that did not quite get to market
There will two types
1. Electric delivery van
2. Electric Large Panel Van
Slightly different configurations but essential the same basic vehicle with either a cavernous 18m cube or a slightly smaller but still very big 14m cubed.
An 80kWh battery, giving around 160 miles of range will probably need to have an upgrade option to gain ground on competitors. Their "Blade battery" technology will answer the worry about #battery and THERMAL RUNAWAY, as it seems impossible to make that to happen with this battery!
Drivers will be happy as they jump behind the wheel of this well laid out van for sure, but we weren’t allowed to put that on camera for now!
All in all a great first stab at a large van for the European market for this #chinese manufacturer
Please please please. This is what tradesmen want. Simple functionality. Lots of flat surfaces. And BYD can actually make this van affordable and in quantity.
The cab area is really good. Although I was not allowed to film it, I did get to look around it and it felt very practical and useable!
I want one.
@@richiesd1No you don't
This van would make a hell of a camper van.
@@Darkmatter321 I think there are many who think the same!
Yep. I need this van in the states. The tariffs are so stupid. I wonder what price it will sell for in the states minus dealer markups. I live in Texas, so cold extreme weather isn’t common. Also I don’t plan to travel far with it unlike most campers. I just want to get rid of my house due to property taxes, annual fees, maintenance, etc., thus saving $. I can always park it at the homes of my relatives. They don’t mind. I will keep my current car to run errands, etc. but leave my camper van at their driveway. I can always find a charging station when it comes to charging or even charge at their homes.
That’s the first thing that came to mind (I’m a full-time vanlifer). Absolutely would buy an ev van especially one that tall and with that much space.
This might cost half the price of a sprinter van, maybe less.
its a bit of untabbed territory for China that is long over-dued for affordable innovative products. I am hoping that companies such BYD or the like will make headway on that product range.
I like BYD vehicles
The world's best pickup BYD shark
When U.S. politicians talk about transitioning to an electric economy, it raises the question: why aren’t Chinese electric vehicles allowed in the market? It makes me question the sincerity of their commitment to this vision.
Sincerity and politicians in the same sentence?
I can vouch for BYD. Gone are the days of stuff from China being cheap and nasty.
They've learnt how to build good automobile's
Their cars have taken off really well in the west. Their battery tech is leading the way and this Van did seem like a quality addition. We will see once it hits the road
@@electricvanmanwe here in the states need BYD. This will drop prices for all EVs. Tesla will be forced to innovate even more
Much like the historic examples of 1970's Japan & more recently Korea, while Europe et al, appears to have dozed off.
3 BYD showrooms burnt down in China this year so far.
Just sayin'
China is undisupted king of manufacturing now, there are shops that can still make cheap products if that's all you can affort, but they also the home to the most advanced manufactoring facilities that produces that leading edge electronic goods such as your Apple products, DJI drones, EVs, Robovacs and everything inbetween. No country in the world have the same breath, flexibility and supply chain in one geological location. Even if you consider the whole EU bloc.
BYD builds the London electric bus amongst many many many others 😊😊😊
They also build EV trucks and bus in Lanchester, California 😂
I see a Campervan!
They are definitely not going after your Campers!!! Definitely Not, get that dirty thought out of brain 😜
LOL, same here, if this is available in the US. the sprinter van would look like from 200 years ago
If your country wants the energy transition to really take place, tell your elected leaders to not sanction China at random.
Well said
thye have top batteries. also have the looks, not bad, with a black paint would look really good
BYD - if you’re reading this comment, CAMPERVAN!!!
Yes, coming up!
They are already working on this!
I've seen BYD T5 light truck in the clip which is considered as the perfect base for campers with build in battery and V2L. And the length is less than 6m which means it's more easier to drive (In China this means you can drive it with normal car license). Many Chinese camper manufactures are trying to modify it with the support of BYD official.
Yep. I need this van in the states. The tariffs are so stupid. I wonder what price it will sell for in the states minus dealer markups. I live in Texas, so cold extreme weather isn’t common. Also I don’t plan to travel far with it unlike most campers. I just want to get rid of my house due to property taxes, annual fees, maintenance, etc., thus saving $. I can always park it at the homes of my relatives. They don’t mind. I will keep my current car to run errands, etc. but leave my camper van at their driveway. I can always find a charging station when it comes to charging or even charge at their homes.
@@inquisitvem6723 What I'm saying is this one. ruclips.net/video/IwAHEKw3RAc/видео.html. Converted from BYD T5 light truck (around 130k CNY which is under U$ 20k), not from this van. it cost around 300k CNY which is around U$ 42k in China.
New T5DM can give you up to 1000Km range.
Very nice Review 👌Hoping it will come to the Philippines.
@@EandP. well I do think it is hitting Auz first so maybe from there?
Smart for companies that can charge nighttime. Dont ever have to loose time fueling in daytime. Every morning car is fully tanked . Taking your work car home and plug it in.
Looks cool, thanks for the video
Very nice and clear presentation
It is easy to be critical. But it looks much better than ICE vans designed to be converted to EV.
It wont be a long distance van, but great for local businesses or trades. As ever the issue will be price, and i know leasing is the way but for small businesses having monthly overheads is less desirable than owning outright sometimes.
In my own experience i bought a plug in hybrid as 25% of my journeys are last minute 100s miles. But the other 80% i can do on the 35-40mile EV only part.
The error is to think people can afford EVs as a second car at those prices.
Taken decades for the Dacia spring for example that gets laughed at bit is actually one of the most important EVs for the price.
Vans seem to have fallen through the cracks but are actually the most important EVs out there for city driving and miles.
Yep. I need this van in the states. The tariffs are so stupid. I wonder what price it will sell for in the states minus dealer markups. I live in Texas, so cold extreme weather isn’t common. Also I don’t plan to travel far with it unlike most campers. I just want to get rid of my house due to property taxes, annual fees, maintenance, etc., thus saving $. I can always park it at the homes of my relatives. They don’t mind. I will keep my current car to run errands, etc. but leave my camper van at their driveway. I can always find a charging station when it comes to charging or even charge at their homes.
@@CJMVector321190 you are completely right to say that vans have fallen through the cracks. They really are extremely important to our economy and given where they operate, critical to go zero emissions
Great E mobile home...what we need in NZ with 250 kms range or more
I like its looks, it's very simple but thats what makes it look so kind and honest
Mobil idaman para pecinta Campervan
Such good stuff, keep it up!
Make a good Camping Van!!
@@simonpannett8810 yup I think you may well be right! There is a lot of space. Nice and square too
Yeah perfect for vanlife and save money on rent 😊
Exactly my first thought!
Would need a bigger battery maybe 150Kwh people would pay for the bigger battery even if it added 5K to the van but gave it much more range and capacity to be used for cooking and a compressor fridge. Heating could still be gas / electric hook up but off grid with some decent solar on the roof would make this an excellent tourer. Electric drive would be so powerful nice and quite too. I am sure EV vans will hit the Campervan market soon.
@@michaeldawson6309 Maybe slots for extra storage if required??
Never seen a man so excited about a comercia van than much before
Watch the rest of my stuff you will find plenty more examples 😉😎
It depends on who's sponsoring him . I would get excited for the right money.
The roof area must be 2.2 x 6m = 15 sq metres...for solar panels. That will give this van lots of extra juice if sun is out..
China can easily make solar panels sized just to fit on this vehicle!
@@Anonymous------ may as well include a horizontal wind generator too into leading edge..so another source of free power is sucked up.!
@@kenyahawkins2472
Yes, the more use of free energy the better. Someone should develop a wind catcher electric generator designed to fit onto vehicles without taking too much space on the vehicle and blocking air flow.
@@Anonymous------ BYD engineers?
Even if it's 2 x 5 m = 10 sqm, that's plenty enough for a camper while trickle-charging the battery.
At least when you charge, you'll have a place to sleep.
The BYD van is a FAR bigger deal than anyone in the West recognizes. Tradesmen and local delivery put down much higher miles than ordinary passenger cars. It's going to be fantastic in China and around the world, just completely crush the European delivery vans.
When will there be a motorhome / VAN conversion based on this platform?
it needs a bigger battery like 150kwh minimum.
Just need to get some into DPD/Amazon fleets to demonstrate them.
@@DigitalDiabloUK I am sure those guys will be keen to give them a go once they hit the streets
Looks like my old VW LT 😊😊🇨🇳👍
Glad you said "Arrival"
That's exactly what I thought when I saw it.... Although, it's a "logical" profile for a van....
@@rogerstarkey5390 it is but I think they have created more than a passing likenesses to the ill fated Arrival Van 😎
Ditch the Arrival look
@@DrTofutybeast but why?
I was interested in this van but BYD said it won't come to the U.K, back to looking at eTransit, & eDucato
@@DarylSullivan-pk9lq it won’t be quick but I have been told it will come in about 12 months or so
@@electricvanman That's interesting thanks, I was hoping for the Arrival van to be available, I got a eSprinter quote for £78k & a eTransit quote for £51k, I would rather have a from the ground up EV than a Diesel van converted to EV.
BYD E-VALI
Does it do V2L inside? I would guess then it would be the true perfect tradesmen van...
It was not clear but it is something that many others do - let’s hope!
@@electricvanman thanks for answering! I hope the OEMs are reading this... I saw in a different post that Iveco/Hyundai are at least offering this by adapter on the outside. But I would hope they put a standard outlet in the back of the van. 😉
It will benefit from low cost of driving since there is no concern about the rising price of gas
@@huanghermann5207 that is very true and with renewable energy coming online it could make even more of a difference
iveco like this
Is there a plug in hybrid version of this van ? That would remove the range anxiety issue. Imagine a Byd E van with 2000 km range !!!
@@bobmorane4926 I do not believe they will be launching an Hybrid version. It is too expensive to meet the Euro6/7 standards for the engine
T5DM with 1000km range
@@electricvanman You think the hybrid engine in Yangwang U8 cannot be adapted for this E Van , I think BYD calls them DMO tech . Isn't Yangwang U8 already available in Europe ?
Great van! I hope it could come to California. The full-size vans in the US are just sucks…unreliable and too expensive.
Surely a van OVER 3.5 t will require a tachograph , and the driver will require an LGV license and a CPC 🤔
@@johnshaw4140 there is an allowance for alternative fueled vehicles to run at up 4.25t from the government. There are a few rules around that but these are all under consultation and it is expected that fairly soon they will gone and it will be exactly the same as 3.5 diesel’s. So B1 is ok for these with a 5hr training course currently but this has already been agreed to be removed… just waiting for the legislation to catch up
@@electricvanman Makes an absolute mockery of the 3.5t rule for ice then really doesn't it.
Current ford transit electric is 4.5 tonnes and doesn't require a tacho but driver does need to be c1 qualified
@@leeterry853 It can only max out at 4.25 otherwise it does require both Tacho full o licence and qualifying driver. If at 4.25 the driver can have B1 licence but there are a few rules around it. Current Ford is 4.25
And what about the dm-i phev system in Byd van?
Let's hope so
I think the problem is that a commercial van needs to drive the rear wheels, which means a driveshaft from a front engine (for the radiator) to the rear axle. If the vehicle wasn't designed for that driveshaft, you can't retrofit it.
@@ZweiZwolf commercial vans don't need to be rear wheels drive. There are some examples: Renault Máster, Fiat Ducato, Peugeot Boxer, Citroën Junper
@@joseluisortsagullo3008 They absolutely need to be RWD if they're going to tow anything or carry heavy cargo. FWD is fine for low load use cases, but you're not going to do heavy industrial materials hauling in one. You're not towing a boat or trailer with one. If you just need what's basically a really big passenger car, that's fine. But it's not what I'd even consider for heavier commercial transport.
Can it come with PV panels on the roof?
Easy to install diy.
@@USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity There are a couple of DIY electric vans out there which have "stacked" PV panels which can be extended when parked. You get much more surface area and of course more watts, plus awnings.
@@glennmartin6492 we do fit solar panels to cans already here in the UK, even in some diesel vans, so certainly from an aftermarket point of view. Who knows maybe the manufacturers will get in on the act
@@grahammonk8013 I have 4 - 405W REC panels on my Chevy Express 2500, Standard Height/Length.
Build Your Dream 😂
BYD's v CATL's batteries - BYD not yet competing with CATL's Shenxing Plus LFP batt-packs ie. 1000km range with 600km superfast charge in 10 mins. And CATL also recently announced their latest Tianxing LFP cells/packs. The host could-should have asked the designer et al some much tougher bolder more informed probing crucial and inevitably unpopular questions at the show/presentation - focusing on the precise points I've made here..
Paul G
That very much depends on the interest of your audience. I agree for you it would have been useful but for others the reporting of “is the Van fit for purpose” is more important
Generic brands has less 'residual value' when it's time to sell. Knowing that you would throw away your hard earned money away.
@@TheThomas888 you are right to say an unknown brand, but BYD are building a strong reputation. May get a surprise
So I finish my delivery on a Friday evening hitch un my 2 tonn caravan and down in the south of France Saturday morning sweet
@@user-oz4mx1di7t 😀👏⚡️
It's a shame Arrival ran out of money.
I saw an Australian review which specified 188kW charging Channel "BEYOND ev" (BYD Specific content)
@@rogerstarkey5390 really helpful. Will check that out. That’s fast if it is correct!
Until the range is minimum 300 miles when fully loaded it’s not an option for campervan conversion unfortunately
Do you know if these will come as EREV as well?
@@onetwothreefour-s1n what does EREV stand for ?
@@electricvanman oh sorry, extended range ev-a type of phev/hybrid. It's the new rage in China. It's having a gas engine that acts as an electricity generator for the electric motors. Way more range, no fear of missing a charging station. Can charge itself on the go, basically but also can plug in. Examples: byd yangwang U8, byd shark. Li auto l9, voyah free. Many more coming quickly as hybrid/phev growth is crushing Bev growth in China and globally.
@@electricvanmanextended range electric vehicle ( electric battery car with an engine as a generator)
Have the UK GUV stuck a massive import Tariff on it like BYD cars ,,( 45 %)
@@studiosys there will be import tariffs but not sure what they are yet
Its a better looking mitsubishi L300
Hmm, towing capacity will be?
@@Anthony-w7i5g didn’t get that stat tbh. In the case of the delivery van it won’t matter given its use case but could be v important for the other version
Aside from BYD rapidly taking over the world of everything EV and all good fortune to them .. We in the trade, the people I know anyway, we call this marque _'Bead'_ …. Just saying.
ahh cyber van
Very good you can put genset at the back in van , you do not need trailer it is really wonderfull.
As though vans are not heavy enough in the first place......
Rivian edv best.
An even BIGGER fire.......
Its not 2012, Get back on your horse.
@@timorum dont bother, these accounts with numbers behind them are bots or being paid to run a certain agenda/narrative
@@ianjohnston2361 the battery chemistry and tech from BYD mean that it is almost impossible for these batteries to catch fire in any circumstances
I see you’re still part of the Fox News sheep…😂
@@timoruma horse 🐴 would be embarrassed!
What a wonderful thing. Lets buy chinese cars and then China will come and pay our health system, pensions, etc. Clever people buy Chinese. 😅
Do you say that about Tesla as well or with Toyota, VW, BMW, Honda??? If you from the UK, there is no UK car maker apart from Rolls Royce and Bentley, which by the way is owned by BMW😊
not in UK that is big leir
Someone make an EV vehicle and van with changeable battery packs, you just cant run some businesses with limited range vehicles, you need to be able tp go back to your home base or depot and swap out a battery pack and get back on the road, esp delivery vehicles,
@@Johnnybananass-_ it is certainly something that I would like to see but I think the use cases will be less than expected making it more costly by virtue of low volume
There are already full-size trucks with swappable battery packs.
@@ZweiZwolf we need to work out if and how it could work for this size of vehicle. Trucks have more predictable routes etc
@@electricvanman Almost all local delivery trucks are on fixed routes or stay so close to base that long range doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is that they recharge every night.
EVs are not practical for longer distances and what happens to the range when the lights and heater are on ? In Britain it’s cold and dark for quite a few months every year!
@@thomas05ish the range is reduced from the predicted in the winter, primarily due to the cold. That said the average daily journey is less than 100 miles so this should still hit the spot for many
@@electricvanman but it will miss the spot for many too . Buy an EV if you want to but don’t force people to buy them if they are not suitable.
For vehicles doing rounds the mileage and therefore value propersition is already known, add that there is a second possible revenue steam selling the power back to the grid when they return to the yard (at peak prices) make these a tempting propersition. There are other unique points too such as the silent running allowing deliveries 24*7 or the battery power being available to run tools and equipment
Lights don't take enough power to affect range.
The small cabin won't take much energy to heat either.
Your argument comes from a lack of experience.
@@FFVoyager I’ve spoken to users of EVs so I’m not making the mistake of buying one.
Oh Gosh. Even bigger batteries to burst into flames!
BYD do not have a great safety record in China.
And it's leading the sales charts in said country. One would think the Chinese know better than you.
Well the BayD Blade battery really does not “burst” into flames at all… Google tests on it and you will see for yourself
Keep believing republicans and Fox News I see.
@@Dr-T you need to check out the “blade” battery the tech and chemistry mean that it is almost impossible to catch fire
@@wwbren It may be leading the sales charts today but in my personal view, Full Ev commercial vehicles make very little financial sense.
The depreciation will be HUGE -- and that, together with logevity are important parameters for the tarket market.
I predict full Ev's are a passing phase, and one I would not invest in -- never mind the dubious reliability reputation of such vehilces.
"You pays your money and takes your choice"
As someone who has spent 45 years designing and developing Automotive Electonics, a vehicle from BYD is not my choice.
Chinese manufacturers base thier business model on 'Throughput' not reliability.
Enjoy your new Ev Van for as long as it lasts.
What a load of crap.
Crafted from finest Kit Kat wrappers and smartie lids.
It's pie in the sky sort of rubbish.
@@kevmaggs5971 what do mean by “pie in the sky”? If you mean it will never happen, it already has
Nonsense. You will be left behind when you wake up tomorrow 😂
Electric vans aren't going to work, unless you are pottering around the local neighbourhood, and don't have the heating on. If you planning a 500 mile round trip hauling a real load, you don't stand a chance.
I'm fully awake already. I just don't accept the EVangelist nonsense that comes out of your mouths. FYI I've got a degree in Automotive Engineering, and can see what is happening in the electric van market, and it isn't pretty.
BYD....
Burn Your Delivery