My cattle have always lived a grass-fed lifestyle. Always outdoors. Its a beautiful sight. Happy cows = Happy farmers. People think cows Moo a lot. They dont. Cows Moo when they are hungry or when they want something. My cows only Moo to let their calves know where they are etc. If you go to a corporate farm you hear lots of Mooing. If you go to a natural grass-fed farm like the one in this video all you hear is the munching of the grasses... Billy
Joszuaprocess, have you ever worked in a feed lot? I recently worked in one of the biggest feedlots in the world,huling manure out, which is located in south west Kansas, and I can tell you the cattle are treated very well, b/c the treatment of them affects the meat and the margin of profit is so low that they can not afford to produce a bad product. Also many feedlots are finishing lots,meaning the cattle are started on grass and then sent to the lot to bulk up on corn and high fat additives
A lot of it has to do with the problem of acidosis that these supplements have to be constantly administered to the cattle. Another thing is if the feedlot is feeding heifers, a drug has to be put in the feed so that they don't go into heat...forget the exact reason why. Growth hormone isn't really necessary for beef animals because they're growing anyways, and the feed they're fed is making them bigger as well. For commercial dairy cows though, that's a different story, unfortunately.
Steer1300- I am actually interested in the good things that meat suppliers do. You're right we don't hear enough of it. My thought though is, for millions of years our ancestors probably didn't have the strength or weapons to bring down an animal the size of a cow or buffalo. I don't think we need to eat huge animals every day, it's not natural. Having said that, thank you for your work. I know most farmers care about the work they do.
I think a lot of that has to do with each individual farm and the management practices that go with it. Apparently your management practices involved the right kind of environment and feed for healthy feedlot animals which had no need for antibiotics constantly. My hat's off to you. :)
Ok, toaster, you make some good points. Please tell me why 70% of all the antibiotics produced in the world are necessary to keep feedlot (corn fed)cattle alive long enough to get to slaughter size.
actually it can be cheaper. Grass is very resilient and can grow when corn (and other crops won't). Grass doesn't need fertilizer. Don't mow your lawn for 3 weeks and you will see what I mean.
Firstly, they are not Angus cattle. Secondly I honestly have no idea how they do things in America but down here in Australia the feedlot industry is so heavily regulated that everything is done by the book. No artificial hormones added. And with the high demand for beef it is entirely impracticle to raise 100% non intensley raised store cattle. Where would they all be paddocked?
Again, it's all about the digestive upset in cattle from a primarily grain diet: ACIDOSIS. Without some sort of supplement to reduce this disorder, the feedlot could have some very sick cattle on its hands; and by the time that they are spotted, chances are its too late and they're goners anyway. So catching them early and treating them, and keeping on treating them til withdrawal period before slaughter, is necessary to keep them alive until then.
This is not a educational video about grass fed beef. Its a commercial for her farm. All beef that is fed grain is fed some kind of pesticide. If you where to feed cattle a all organic diet no one would be able to eat beef. I know first hand I raise cage free chickens and its actually harder to sell them so most of them goto the foodbank in my local town. There just isn't a way to get away from pesticides and insecticides because almost all crops are in someway sprayed.
Kill floor are you serious? feedlots dont have kill floors. The feedlot where I was, was a custom feeder meening farmers would send thier cattle there to be raised. Do you think they could keep thier customer base in they were treating the cattle badly? I have been to many feedlots all over the midwest and have never seen such things. The cattle all had plenty of feed water and were not standing knee deep in crap. the pens at feed lots are scraped everyday.
grass-fed has far better fat profile-- it's precisely in tune with nature. doesn't make you fat. doesn't make you sick. might as well be a different animal, it is so different. people tend to lump together "beef" no matter what is has been fed. but for any lifeform, what you feed it becomes what that creature is made of. and if it's fed an unnatural diet, it is not a healthy animal. you are what you eat, and with meat that means what that animal ate.
and poly/mono saturated fatty acids as well. And with it animal Omega 3's. Also grass fed animals taste better. Go to South America and try some Brazilian/Argentinian beef and you'll notice the difference.
Grass doesn't need fertilizer? In some cases, yes if you got good soil. But in most cases, this is false. All plants need some form of nourishment, and, naturally speaking, 70% of this comes from animal feces; the other 30% from dead plant matter. Approximately. BUT, if you are talking synthetic fertilizer, no of course not; there are other alternatives. Grass-fed beef is cheaper to produce for the producer. But when it's on the market, it is a little more expensive than grain-fed beef.
Grass fed is great but surely it doesn't HAVE to cost twice regular... Nor does it take twice as long to finish. If it took twice as long to finish then grass fed steers would be being butchered at 28 to 36 months. It does take longer, but the inputs should be so much lower...
Please tell me when and where you have seen these things, on a ducumentry produced by PETA? As far as the workers I know many guys who work at feedlots,there hours are not that bad 12-14 hrs/day. as a dairy farmer I work 15-16 hr days 7 days a week. Am I hoped up on amphetamines? NO! I am glad your a vegetarian, that means more steak for me. As a farmer it makes me so mad that people dont relize that America has the safest and cheapest food in the world. Agian you are allowed to your opinion.
I met a vegan that gained weight there are even more calories in nuts than there are in meat he told me he gained weight after starting on a vegeterian diet. Nuts are also more expensive than many meats.Maybe America is one of the fattest countries because we spend to much time watching TV, and ride in a car instead of walking or using a bike and we get our food from a grocery store instead of growing it ourselves.
@TLcavvy Impractical and inefficient? You are talking about your *health*. And by the way.. it's the way it's been done in Europe for more than 30 years now, and I don't think farmers have gone bust because of this. Of course, we *do* pay a little more for our food, but then again I'd rather have better, safer, higher quality food than a couple extra gadgets or a fancier car.
Dogs can die from eating to much skin off chickens my dog got sick from eating it so I stopped feeding it to him. A friend of mine said her dog got sick but she didn't stop feeding it to her dog and it died.
Seems that you are the one who needs educated. Too much of anything is bad. Too many bananas is bad for your bowels, too much broccoli can increase your risk for kidney stones, too many nuts can be just as bad as too much beef. If you limit yourself to about 6 ounces of meat max (I recommend no more than 4), your body will be able to metabolize the fat without any issue.
Lol must have been a processed food vegan instead of a raw vegan, or just that they were doing it wrong and going psycho on the nuts thinking they needed tons of them because I eat as much as I like whenever I'm hungry and lost plenty of weight. Also haven't worked out much besides occasional exercises and basketball.
My cattle have always lived a grass-fed lifestyle. Always outdoors. Its a beautiful sight. Happy cows = Happy farmers. People think cows Moo a lot. They dont. Cows Moo when they are hungry or when they want something. My cows only Moo to let their calves know where they are etc. If you go to a corporate farm you hear lots of Mooing. If you go to a natural grass-fed farm like the one in this video all you hear is the munching of the grasses... Billy
good for you Dr. Whisnant!
Joszuaprocess, have you ever worked in a feed lot? I recently worked in one of the biggest feedlots in the world,huling manure out, which is located in south west Kansas, and I can tell you the cattle are treated very well, b/c the treatment of them affects the meat and the margin of profit is so low that they can not afford to produce a bad product. Also many feedlots are finishing lots,meaning the cattle are started on grass and then sent to the lot to bulk up on corn and high fat additives
A lot of it has to do with the problem of acidosis that these supplements have to be constantly administered to the cattle. Another thing is if the feedlot is feeding heifers, a drug has to be put in the feed so that they don't go into heat...forget the exact reason why. Growth hormone isn't really necessary for beef animals because they're growing anyways, and the feed they're fed is making them bigger as well. For commercial dairy cows though, that's a different story, unfortunately.
Steer1300- I am actually interested in the good things that meat suppliers do. You're right we don't hear enough of it. My thought though is, for millions of years our ancestors probably didn't have the strength or weapons to bring down an animal the size of a cow or buffalo. I don't think we need to eat huge animals every day, it's not natural. Having said that, thank you for your work. I know most farmers care about the work they do.
I think a lot of that has to do with each individual farm and the management practices that go with it. Apparently your management practices involved the right kind of environment and feed for healthy feedlot animals which had no need for antibiotics constantly. My hat's off to you. :)
Ok, toaster, you make some good points. Please tell me why 70% of all the antibiotics produced in the world are necessary to keep feedlot (corn fed)cattle alive long enough to get to slaughter size.
actually it can be cheaper. Grass is very resilient and can grow when corn (and other crops won't). Grass doesn't need fertilizer.
Don't mow your lawn for 3 weeks and you will see what I mean.
Firstly, they are not Angus cattle. Secondly I honestly have no idea how they do things in America but down here in Australia the feedlot industry is so heavily regulated that everything is done by the book. No artificial hormones added. And with the high demand for beef it is entirely impracticle to raise 100% non intensley raised store cattle. Where would they all be paddocked?
Again, it's all about the digestive upset in cattle from a primarily grain diet: ACIDOSIS. Without some sort of supplement to reduce this disorder, the feedlot could have some very sick cattle on its hands; and by the time that they are spotted, chances are its too late and they're goners anyway. So catching them early and treating them, and keeping on treating them til withdrawal period before slaughter, is necessary to keep them alive until then.
I bet that this made Monsanto's hair stand on end when this aired on a FOx station. Go grass fed!
This is not a educational video about grass fed beef. Its a commercial for her farm. All beef that is fed grain is fed some kind of pesticide. If you where to feed cattle a all organic diet no one would be able to eat beef. I know first hand I raise cage free chickens and its actually harder to sell them so most of them goto the foodbank in my local town. There just isn't a way to get away from pesticides and insecticides because almost all crops are in someway sprayed.
I agree, the info on grass fed beef and its benefits are true, but the other video may be there for shock value.
Kill floor are you serious? feedlots dont have kill floors. The feedlot where I was, was a custom feeder meening farmers would send thier cattle there to be raised. Do you think they could keep thier customer base in they were treating the cattle badly? I have been to many feedlots all over the midwest and have never seen such things. The cattle all had plenty of feed water and were not standing knee deep in crap. the pens at feed lots are scraped everyday.
It's not easy to overcook grassfed if it's 80/20
grass-fed has far better fat profile-- it's precisely in tune with nature. doesn't make you fat. doesn't make you sick.
might as well be a different animal, it is so different.
people tend to lump together "beef" no matter what is has been fed. but for any lifeform, what you feed it becomes what that creature is made of. and if it's fed an unnatural diet, it is not a healthy animal.
you are what you eat, and with meat that means what that animal ate.
and poly/mono saturated fatty acids as well. And with it animal Omega 3's.
Also grass fed animals taste better. Go to South America and try some Brazilian/Argentinian beef and you'll notice the difference.
Grass doesn't need fertilizer? In some cases, yes if you got good soil. But in most cases, this is false. All plants need some form of nourishment, and, naturally speaking, 70% of this comes from animal feces; the other 30% from dead plant matter. Approximately. BUT, if you are talking synthetic fertilizer, no of course not; there are other alternatives.
Grass-fed beef is cheaper to produce for the producer. But when it's on the market, it is a little more expensive than grain-fed beef.
Grass fed is great but surely it doesn't HAVE to cost twice regular...
Nor does it take twice as long to finish. If it took twice as long to finish then grass fed steers would be being butchered at 28 to 36 months. It does take longer, but the inputs should be so much lower...
Please tell me when and where you have seen these things, on a ducumentry produced by PETA?
As far as the workers I know many guys who work at feedlots,there hours are not that bad 12-14 hrs/day. as a dairy farmer I work 15-16 hr days 7 days a week. Am I hoped up on amphetamines? NO!
I am glad your a vegetarian, that means more steak for me. As a farmer it makes me so mad that people dont relize that America has the safest and cheapest food in the world. Agian you are allowed to your opinion.
I met a vegan that gained weight there are even more calories in nuts than there are in meat he told me he gained weight after starting on a vegeterian diet. Nuts are also more expensive than many meats.Maybe America is one of the fattest countries because we spend to much time watching TV, and ride in a car instead of walking or using a bike and we get our food from a grocery store instead of growing it ourselves.
we were born as vegetarians, we learn to be omnivores by our parents.
Grass fed may cost more $, but I'd buy it any day over the corn fed shit.
First of all, cattle in feedlots are not fed hormones.
Tell me about cattle walking in excrement. Cattle fed antibiotics. What about downer cattle?
@TLcavvy Impractical and inefficient? You are talking about your *health*. And by the way.. it's the way it's been done in Europe for more than 30 years now, and I don't think farmers have gone bust because of this. Of course, we *do* pay a little more for our food, but then again I'd rather have better, safer, higher quality food than a couple extra gadgets or a fancier car.
Humans aren't better off as vegetarians, we were born as omnivores and we will die as omnivores. period.
Dogs can die from eating to much skin off chickens my dog got sick from eating it so I stopped feeding it to him. A friend of mine said her dog got sick but she didn't stop feeding it to her dog and it died.
i still like corn feed beef
Seems that you are the one who needs educated. Too much of anything is bad. Too many bananas is bad for your bowels, too much broccoli can increase your risk for kidney stones, too many nuts can be just as bad as too much beef.
If you limit yourself to about 6 ounces of meat max (I recommend no more than 4), your body will be able to metabolize the fat without any issue.
Lol must have been a processed food vegan instead of a raw vegan, or just that they were doing it wrong and going psycho on the nuts thinking they needed tons of them because I eat as much as I like whenever I'm hungry and lost plenty of weight. Also haven't worked out much besides occasional exercises and basketball.