BlindShell Classic VS. Lucia | Comparing Phones designed for the blind and visually impaired
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
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___________________ A comparison between the BlindShell phone and the Lucia Phone by RAZ mobility. Both of these phones are completely accessible to the blind and visually impaired with tactile T9 buttons, everything spken aloud with text to speech, large print, and different color schemes. Learn more about them in the video or in the links below!
Full Review of the BlindShell Classic Phone:
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BlindShell Website:
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Lucia Phone (RAZ Mobility) Website:
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Carrie,
You never cease to AMAZE me!!! I know how long it takes to do filming and video editing... How do manage taking care of Little Pablo, household tasks and working your Braille Literacy Course from Hadley create wonderful informative videos? Also, CONGRATULATIONS on 1000 subscribers!!! You only started the #LiveAccessible Channel in late 2018!! I am so excited for you and Pablo! I was thinking about starting another RUclips channel for blind and VIP, but there are so many fantastic channels out there in RUclips World" for us. Besides, I am not sure if I could add anything to what is already out there.
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Thanks for this overview. However, I'm more interested in a phone for my elderly, blind father that simply allows him to make and receive phone calls using voice commands. No text, no camera, no appys, etc. He cannot manipulate small touch buttons or see a screen. what can you recommend?
I am in the same position - looking for a phone for my 93-year old mother who is nearly blind and only wants to make/receive phone calls using voice commands. Have you had any success finding one?
@@flynlass Hey Leslie. I ended up getting my dad an iphone 6S. There is a feature that allows you to set the phone to "auto-answer." I set it up so it rings for 10 seconds -- which allows my dad to find it. Then it answers automatically without having to tap or swipe. I also set the phone so that it is always on speaker. Once the phone call is over, once the other person hangs up, my dad's phone automatically hangs up as well. The down side to this is that if he is not available to take a call, the phone will still answer. We just let his friends and family know that if it sounds like no one is there when the phone picks up, it's probably because he is napping or in the shower. The other thing I did was buy a thick black protective shell for the phone. Then I took an X-acto knife and cut out the pads that would cover the on/off button on the phone, as well as the pads that cover the volume up/down buttons and the mute/vibrate buttons on the sides of the phone. This way there is a 99.99% chance than he won't accidentally turn the phone on/off or turn the volume off. Both these hacks have worked very well.
@@davidluttenberger7939 hello, how does he dial from his contact list? I think this is the main issue I'm having with helping my dad. Many thanks in anticipation
Hi there! Thank you for your comment! Sorry for my late replies! There aren't any phones on the market that i know of that only does voice dialing. I wish they had one! That would be awesome. However, an iphone is a great choice because you can set it to auto answer, but you can also have them use siri to control the phone. I know it can seem like a lot, even if they don't use the screen, it is a good option. They do have iphones that are priced much lower. My husband was an accessibility trainer and he trained many who are 90 and above with iphones. There's voiceover, a screen reader for those who can handle it, but even with just siri, it could work. Otherwise, there is also the blindshell, lumia, and jitterbug. I wish you all the best and hope that it works out with your family members!
iphone you can ask call someone, or send a message, remains me something, and you can set it up to answer automatically.
Though I have an iPhone, I give the edge to the BlindShell. It appears to be closer to what’s out there now. 3G network would be frustrating.
But, it’s better than nothing! 👍🏽
He keya! Yes, I really like the blind show, but I hope that I did a neutral comparison. LOL! I was doing my best to not be biased and just let everybody make their own decision.
Keep cool :) The LUCIA next to me shows 4G (and 4V for VoLTE in a voice call). Soon..., need a re-certification. Regards! Tom, husband of Lucia :) (developer)
Both of them is a great phone. But I love the blindshell's feature specially that it has an access on the internet. Reminds me of my old symbian phone which has a screen reader on it. The only thing that I have trouble on my keypad phone is that the browser is not supported on many sites and you have to download and keep the installer of the screen reader. Thank-you for this great video ma'am, wishing you and your family a great day ahead.
Awesome video Carrie!!
Thank you Sam! ☺️
My husband recently got the Lucia and we are having some difficulties. He is 75 and not at all tech saavy. There are many features we like, and some that are bothersome. Customer services has been very good, but they are only open business hours (until 7pm EST) during the week. The keypad is very frustration as the contrast is not good and the letters are not backlit. The voice of the Lucia itself is nice and loud, but the voice you call is not and the speaker phone button has the same delay and can only be activated after the call connects, so if he calls someone he has to say wait a minute while he gets the speaker phone on and the button has to be held down for about 2 seconds and then there is a delay. Even with the speaker phone and the sound boost button he find the voice not very loud on the other end.
Hi there! Thank you for your comment! Sorry for my late reply! I'm so sorry to hear about that bad experience. As you can see from the demonstration I did, the Lumia does have a long delay when controlling it. That is unfortunate and maybe they can do an update. This is a software issue. I personally enjoyed the Blindshell better of the two, but I do know some who like the Lumia. I hope that it has worked out for your husband! Best wishes.
HI CARRIE.
GREAT VIDEO WITH GREAT COMPARISONS BETWEEEN THE TWO PHONES. THANKS.
SEEE YOU IN THE NEXT VIDEO. SENDING YOU AND THE FAMILY LOTS OF LOVE AND A GREAT BIG HUG.
Hi Stephen! Thank you so much! ☺️ thank you again for all the well wishes and I hope you and your family are doing well too! By the way, have you ever looked into any of those hearing aids that can't connect to your smart phone? Just curious. I know they can be pretty expensive, but sometimes insurance pays for it!
HEY CARRIE.
NO I HAVE HOT LOOKED INTO ANY HEARING AIDS THAT CAN BE CONNECTED TO THE CELL PHONE. I RIGHT NOW CAN'T ADD ANY MORE PAYMENTS ON MY BUDGET. BUT THANKS FOR ASKING. I WILL KEEP IT IN MIND IF AND WHEN THINGS GETA LITTLE BETTER FINACIALLY. @@LiveAccessible
Hi Stephen! It was just a thought! We have a neighbor who uses hearing aids and insurance paid for it in part. It seems to have a lot of different settings and you can ask your phone to find your hearing age if you lose it!
@@LiveAccessible THAT IS AMAZING CARRIE. AND THANK YOU FOR YOU ALWAYS THINKING OF ME WHEN YOU CAN. IT MEANS THE WORLD TO ME. I HOOPE THINGS MAYBE WILL CHANGE AND MAYBE I CAN GET THOSE KIND OF HEARING AIDS. HUGS AND LOVE TO YOU HUN..
I hope too my friend! Always have best wishes for you! 😀
I'm in the USA the blindshell say it only work with T-Mobile. How could I get a GSM unlocked blindshell phone? Great video ☺️
Hi, does anyone know if there is a 4G Lucia and if either phone is able to be used in Australia?
Hi Jennifer, thanks for watching. I had heard they were created a 4g version, but I don't know if it has come out or if it is available in Australia. They do have pretty good customer service, so it may be a good idea to call them. I hope you all the best with it! Best wishes. Carrie.
I enjoy this video, well done!! very useful info. It save me from buying the Lucia cellphone. Thank you!!!
Nice comparison. Thank you.
Thanks for watching! 😊
Very nice review. Both the phones would be so much helpful for the blind! Coukd please also review in the samsung good vibes?
Hi there! Thank you for your comment! Sorry for my late reply! Thank you so much for your words. I would love to review the samsung phone, but unfortunately, I can't get my hands on that phone and can't buy it to review it as of now. Hopefully in the future I will though! Thanks for watching. :)
hallo madam good afternoon. i want to a clasick android keypad phone and how much cust of the blind shell phone or is there on youtube option on the clasic phone? so request to know its cust in the indian market or when will luntch in the india and how to order from the website? thats like a best vidio.
Can u tell me how to break the Raz memory phone just to get to phone settings?
Hello, I'm sorry, but I do not understand your question. I'd like to help, but perhaps you are using voice dictation and it did not understand you. Thanks.
While I think It's amazing how far these devices have come, from the alto and odin mobile years ago to now, I'm still questioning the price. There is nothing expensive inside these phones, and no reason for the markups. Considering an iPhone SE, a much more capable device, can be purchased for around $100 I really can't justify the pricing on either of these devices.
hi there! Thank you for watching! I agree that a lot of assistive technology can be expensive, but a lot of it is just supply and demand. A $100 iPhone SE would probably be used, and $350 would be the blind shell new. It really is dependent on the customer though. If they are the type of person who is going to use an iPhone, they probably will have no interest in this device. It is not a smartphone and is very simple to use so it's Target is those who just want something simple as opposed to a smartphone. Ultimately, it comes down to the choice of the consumer. ☺️
Live Accessible I definitely agree. I watch these kinds of videos because I interact with many blind people of with different technological abilities on a daily basis so I feel as though I should be informed on as many options as possible.
Absolutely! There are all different types of people with different skills. And there are some people that just don't want to have a smartphone even if they can. A bit mind-boggling. but hey everyone can do whatever they want. ☺️ It's also really nice to just keep up with everything that's available!
I agree that these phones are expensive, but i think the blindshell is worth the price as it is becoming more and more like a smartphone all the time and the hardware has recently been updated. I personally prefer my iPhone, but I recognise that there are people for whom the blind shell will be as much of a helpful device as our mainstream phones are for those of us who prefer to use them.
Hi Carrie Great video x 😊
Hi Tony! Thank you so much! ☺️ ❤️
wonderful video. thumbs up!
My mom lives in farm land so how do I know it works in her area?
hello! So, this will really depend on the carrier that you will use. It would be a good idea to do some research on what carriers you can use for each device and see what type of signal they have in that area. I hope and wish you all the best. :-)
Great review and comparison
Thank you EJ! ☺️
Hi, my niece lives in Italy, she is blind. We are looking for a cellphone for her. is it possible to change the language to italian?
Have you considered a regular smartphone? Maybe an iphone?
Great video carry I still want to get the shell for my stepdad.
but I am curious if you could answer this question for me.
Can the phone run in different languages. My stepdad is Greek so if it could run in Greek it would be amazing. He speaks English really well and reads just fine it's just this would be more accessible to him if it was in his native language.
Hey Vincent! That sounds really neat! End no, it does not come in Greek unfortunately. It does have a lot of other languages, but I looked on the website for you and Greek is not one of them. ☹️
@@LiveAccessible well thank you very much for going out of your way for me. Still worth buying I think for him though he can do it in English. He's just an old lazy fart Greek would have been easier for him. Lol hahaha
Hahaha! I'm sure he's a wonderful guy. ☺️ Behave vonny! Hahaha. I think you mentioned it before, but why doesn't he have a smartphone or something? Just curious. ☺️
@@LiveAccessible he was born and raised in Europe Greece
He's never been a tech savvy kind of guy. He is as old schools against his grump as a kid on farm. He played pro soccer and came to this country after retiring his soccer career.
He has one good eye and his other eye is a glass eye. he has more issues than he would like to admit.
a smartphone would just be way too flashy and he would probably break it in the day. The shell seems like a durable phone typically like the ones we usually buy them already. I usually get them a flip phone or a tactile phone with a small screen. With a hard plastic case.
I think with the shell he would learn a lot more easier than if I had given him an Android or iOS.
He just likes simple and the show shows that simple can be acquired. There's a lot of things on that phone I know he could utilize if he just learned how to use it. And I don't see that phone breaking as easy as in basic Android.
Currently 18 languages/dialects but for one (Finish) no translation files and unfortunately no Greek yet. Potentially 50 languages, hopefully soon. Cheers! Tom
Great video as usual! Are these devices smart phones, or just phones?
Hey Greg! Thanks! They are just phones! 😀
Hi Carrie! I'm wondering if the batteries are easy to change in both of them, and also of the batteries cost a lot or not that much, and how easy are they to find, like only online, or possibly in a camera, or electronics store, or pharmacy, etc. Smiley! (I cannot believe it normally auto correct tries to turn all my ofs to ifs. Today it changed a bonafide if to an of! 😂
hi Audrey! So it has a removable, but rechargeable battery. You just plug it like any other phone to the charger into the wall and it charges that way. 😀 Just remember that these are not smartphones and can't install other apps or anything like that. But it is a good solution for those who are looking for something simple!
Cool phones.
Thank you! Your instruction is wonderful. I am looking for a phone for my visually impaired brother and one of these should work. We are looking for the voice dial option also, like "Call Joe". Thank you for the great demo. I have subscribed and will share with my brother.
Hi Carrie, I can't find if either of the phones have voice dial. Do you happen to know? Being able to say, "call Joe"? Thanks.
I definitely know that for the blind shell it has a voice dialing. You can ask it to call a phone number or if you have a contact saved you can call with the name of the contact. I am not sure about the Lumia, but I will check for you!
I just spoke with them and the Lucia phone does not have any voice command support. I hope that helps! :-)
@@LiveAccessible GREAT! Thanks so much for your kind reply. I actually just got a hold of support for LUCIA and they do not have voice dial. Thanks again and have a great day. :)
@@10463lahti you too! 😀 I'm glad I could help and best wishes for your brother!
HELLO I AM PART BLIND AND YOU KEPT THE LETTERS TO BE ABLE TO READ YOUR ANSWER S. /. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IS NAVIGATION LIKE WHEN IT COMES TO GOING AND TRYING TO FIND APPS IS IT LIKE ANDROID CAN YOU USE GOOGLE PLAY ON IT AND CAN YOU NAVIGATE WITH TOUCH SCREEN?
Hi there! Thank you so much for stopping by and taking time to listen to the review! These phones are simple phones so even though the blind shell is based on an Android system, it does not support Android apps and you cannot get apps from the play Store. Also, the Lucia does not have Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, or GPS and also it is based on a custom Linux operating system so it can't install apps or go on the web. I hope that answers your questions! ☺️ I'm hoping to do some videos in the future about smartphones that have a physical keyboard that does support Android apps.
@UCKRENKXUD7EFGBGNIA-PDIG TY SO MUCH WIN UD O THE NEXT PHONE REVIEWS ILL LIKE TO SEE IIT / PHONE IN UR VIDW ILL NOT WORK FOR ME IM LOOKING FOR KEYPAD WITH TOUCHV SCREEN
I know that it's an old phone, but the Samsung folder 2 is something I know a lot of people use. A really great resources also the tech talk email list. 😀
I am interested in the Blindshell, but I don't like the voice telling you everything. Is there a way to turn off the text to speech thing?
I'm not sure. Let me find out for you. :-)
@@LiveAccessible Thanks, that would be very helpful. ^-^
So I found out that the only way to turn off the voice at the moment is turning the volume all the way down. The phone will still ring, but you will need to increase the volume if you want to play music or something. Sorry!
@@LiveAccessible So, it's tied to music volume, is that the same as call audio? because if it has a seperate volume from the ringtone and call audio then that would be acceptable. Also, thanks again, you're incredibily helpful. ^-^
Yes, it is just for the media volume. The ringtone should still ring. I hope that helps! :-)
Thanks great review!
Thank you so much! 😊 Hopefully I can get more tech to review. We do lots of different types of content here, but I'm glad you liked it!
what version is the blind shell running now? And can you install apps from the playstore?
Thanks for watching! I am not sure what version it is currently running. Also, there's no way to install apps from the playstore. It runs on android, but is a very modified version and so other apps wouldn't work on it. 😊 Hope that helps! All the best, Carrie.
Super excellent video. You have an awesome editing abilities. Hopefully one day you can show us how you edit your videos. 😀👍
Hi Rafael! Thank you so much and that's really interesting that you say that. I've been getting a lot of questions about that and I will definitely have to work on a video about that! however, I'm still trying to get better at recording and editing, so I'm going to hold off for a little bit. 😀
Live Accessible Well, I hope you continue practicing and we can learn from you soon. 😄👍
Thanks of Raphael! What program do you use by the way? I know you mentioned it in one of your videos, but I can't remember!
Live Accessible I am using IMovie to edit the videos and Keynote and Canva to do the graphics.
Excellent comparison! I've been looking for the info for Blinkshell, who to get it, etc. Thanks so much!
Hi Bonnie! Thank you so much and I'm glad I could help! when I made the other video, the phone was not available yet, but since July 7th is available to buy in the US and Canada. ☺️
Hello All,
Do you know, is there a possible phone for a blind person, who wants to have classic buttons, AND browsing, Facebook and Messenger. :) thank you in advance.
Hi there! Thanks for watching. Unfortunately, I am not aware of any phone that has physical buttons and can handle browsing and other apps. One option is to go with a regular smartphone and connect to a bluetooth keyboard.
@@LiveAccessible hello! Thanks for the idea! :)
My daughter is newly legally blind. She has been low vision all her life. She is 20 and is a college student. We are trapped. A multitude of systems not sure what to do. We are trying to figure out which software works best in making print accessible. We recognize everyone is different but locating software that reads well and does speech to text well would be amazing. Can anyone help? It would be greatly appreciated
Thanks guys
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so these two phones are made for the blind and vipl; then why dont they have voice dialing
Hi there! Thanks for your comment. I'm sorry that my reply is very late! The blindshell does have voice dialing and is pretty good at it. I believe that it uses the google voice to text recognition. I hope that helps!
Thank you for this video 😃 Could you, please compare BlindShell and the new Mini Vision 2 Cell Phone? I would like to buy a new mobile for my mum who is blind. Thank you in advance!
Cool ❤
Thank you. :D
Does the Lucia phone have voice control voice dictation and voice command?
Unfortunately no. It does not. Delicia phone is pretty limited and I think it's focus is really to be very easy to use without anyof the bells and whistles we are accustomed to on our smartphones
Is there any mobile like Nokia E5 for blind people?
Hoping someone replies this.
Hi there! Thank you for your comment! Sorry for my late reply! what is the Nokia E5? Is it the one that has a keyboard? I have heard of one that samsung made, but most of them are phasing out now and going over to touch screen. There was the blackbetty passport which was a smartphone with a keyboard on it, but I'm not too sure about it. Another alternative is to get a bluetooth keyboard. There are ones that are very small and you can keep it in your pocket. I hope that helps! Sorry again for the late reply!
I couldn’t watch your lifestream the other day I got a notification but when I tapped on it it said the video is not available I had Internet but it just didn’t play😞😢😭
Hi there! I'm so sorry to hear that! It could happen that we already finished the live stream and it was processing. Once the live stream is done, it takes a few minutes or even an hour before it is available for replay! But you can always watch it after. It was either that or you may have gotten there too early. 😀 But there's always next time!
Is it able to watch in the UK I am blind and I am from the UK
It has been a day since you made that lifestream but I’ve tried again today but it still says not available to watch
Hey! I really am not sure why it's not working. ☹️ Maybe if you try again? Is it still not working? Do you think that it could have anything to do with the new article 13? I don't know why since I didn't do anything related to any copyrights, but I don't know! I'm sorry!
No it’s not working still but I managed to watch the one about the winner of the Google homefor the giveaway
I live in Pakistan how can I get this phone
Hi There. I don't believe they ship to Pakistan. I would speak to Blindshell or send them an email. :)
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Thank you! Glad you enjoyed. Apologies for the delayed response. This channel has been discontinued. Please feel free to reach out on my new channel RUclips.com/@CarrieOnAccessibility. All the best, Carrie.
The lucia phone looks like a gameboy
HAHAHAHA! Shhhhh. I'm supposed to be impertial. 😂😂🤣
@@LiveAccessible lucia is Hot trash for the price
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Wanted a blind shell ll phone and saved money for moths to purchase it. Used it for a month and a few weeks, HATED IT! You need to push buttons for just about every function and I don't mean one OR TWO but many! IT IS LIKE BEING STUCK ON ONE OF THOSE ANNOYING PHONE TREES FOR ANYTHING YOU WANT TO DO. NOT USER FRIENDLY AT ALL. WOULD NOT RECOMEND IT TO ANYONE !!!!!
Good video two big toes up
Thank you! ☺️ 👏
I'm sorry, but what's the point of a phone specifically designed for blind people? Modern day smartphones already have technologies built-in to help blind and visually impaired people, and all you literally have to do is turn the accessibility feature on. What would make a person put down their accessible iPhone with voiceover turned on or their android with talk back turned on and use this? This phone makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Sorry not sorry.
For most people who are blind or visually impaired, a smartphone is what they want. Some people prefer buttons and a more simple interface. This is especially true for the elder population or those with other disabilities and other challenges like motor where it's More difficult to physically perform gestures. I understand where you're coming from, but smartphones aren't for everyone.
@@LiveAccessible OK. Fair enough, but are we going to deny the fact that they're already elderly people that utilize smart phones. Again, the iPhone has accessibility features built-in. People who have motor issues have accessibility features built-in to help them and majority of those features are cross integrated meaning that one accessibility feature works with the other. This means that the blind shell would only work for a very small percent of people, if those people even exist. I'm sorry, I'm just really having trouble understanding the point of this phone. I think it's cool that a company thought about this, but with so many other solutions available, it really makes it pointless.
You're absolutely right. This is only serving a small percentage of people in the blind and visually impaired community. However, the need for simplicity and tactile physical buttons is definitely present. While there are many elderly people who have success with a smartphone, it's definitely not a solution for many or all. It can be frustrating for some to learn and often there is much resistance.
There are built in accessibility features, but again, that adds complexity and someone has to set it up and teach how to use these features and there are hiccups as there are some conflicts in different accessibility features.
For work efficiency, a physical keyboard is a must for me. While i can use a touchscreen keyboard, it is slower, more difficult, and i make many more errors. That can be translated to other people and their situation and needs.
Needs and preferences differ and i don't see that as difficult to empathize with. At the end of the day, we are all free to choose the devices that best work for us. Some find it useful and some don't. It harms no one.
13?? lol
Здравствуйте можно на русском
Здравствуй! Спасибо за просмотр. Я не говорю по-русски, использую гугл переводчик, но желаю вам всего наилучшего. 😊