Even the name New Jeans is a knockoff on the Jeans, a Mexican girl group that was active in the '90s. MHJ don't have a single original idea in her and yet she's the one complaining about copycat and plagiarism left and right. She has no shame.
The funny is she think Netizen wont find tat Mexican GG and safe to plagiarism them. even accused other GG is copying their concept and stole their Brands. my minds like.. Wat the hell this women.. did she think all people a sided with her? please.....
Anyone who is trying to make this about “who copied who/what” is completely missing the point of the situation. It’s just a distraction tactic from MHJ to take away from the LITERAL CRIMES she was committing.
You’re right, but she swayed public opinion with her pity party press conference so getting this type of info out there can counter that. Hybe will address the main matter of the attempted coup in the courts.
I just hope MHJ pays a price as SK justice system is rather weak on punishment. Heck, Seungri got only 18 months and he pimped, drugged, & filmed many girls along with inciting violence.
Min hee jin had a GOLDEN opportunity in hybe, and her and new jeans would've had an amazing career trajectory, but her greed has completely stomped over their potential. Now, she has opened pandoras box and is getting exposed left and right. All this plagiarism accusations, leaked text messages, and everything is only pouring out because she made a grave mistake in trying to betray hybe, if she hadn't done this, she would have never been exposed if we're being honest.
Mhj never worked for more than few years with her groups, she always star with new group once they get older, she always used lolita concept, if u look back she always used it in different ways, she was never planing on keeping nj, once she has no more inspiration and people get tired of her concept she simply go to next group, knetz in Korea were already dragging nj latest work..but they have big followers which make it hard to see the shift of opinions...but it was the same with exo/fx/rv....people criticised their cb a lot but their fandoms kept them among the top artists, go watch nct debut concept and the review of that time were pretty bad about sm appealing to lolita concept and sexualising minors. Kpop stan just forget.
Wait a few weeks, Jinhit will clean out the 16th floor. Do you think the boys who built Hybe will let their house burn down? New Jean's must be disbanded because of the tarnish New Jean's parents and artists have caused. The breach of trust must be pounded home in Korean courts. Stolen proprietary intel, slander, pay for play, imbezelment. Hybe lost the plot when they gave Min top floor, open checkbook, stock options before New Jean's even proved itself. (Air Jordan became a millionaire after he torched the court not before.) Will any of the accomplices whistle blow on Min?
taking inspo from a group that was active 30 years ago is not the same as taking inspo from a group that just debuted within the last 2 years under the same company.....illit threatens to cannabilize newjeans profitiability, but newjeans does not threaten jeans profitability LMFAO. like if anything, they became way more well known because of this. you guys are idiots i cant
New Jeans marketed initially by using HYBE's and BTS's name for hype, then mama gave them knockoff jeans. Karma, irony, or both? Because they aren't so original after all.
It's a hot take but I agree , only their mv beaing uploaded under hybe label was enough to caught attention of thoes who were not fan and doing dance challenges with bts members I mean come on its a best and cheapest way of promotion, not denying their hard work but mhj literally betrayed those who gave her the power so...
The audacity of MHJ to call Illit out for imitating New Jeans when she actually copied the Mexican girl group, Jeans. Has she no shame? I also heard that the director of New Jeans came out with a statement admitting to referencing the Mexican girl group Jeans, and that MHJ was okay with it. But the similarity is so out there, it doesn't seem like they just took inspiration from Jeans' concept. They actually copied the concept that you can't help but see this as plagiarism at it's finest form. She really also used the name New Jeans, like saying this is the newer version of the group Jeans. The fact that she also didn't give the group she referenced and took inspiration from for New Jeans the proper recognition reeks of plagiarism. She's another level of insane. She doesn't want to return the company laptop (because all her despicable plans are there), she refuses to leave HYBE (because she has bigger plans to take down HYBE...as if she can so dream on, ahjumma) and now this. Wow, she really dug her own grave, because everything's just gonna come crashing back at her. #karma
They stole concept from Mexican girl group, stole songs from British singers, stole MV from Japanese girl group Speed ... Is there anything they didn't steal?
I would be hesitant to say “they”. I seriously doubt the young girls in NJ (all in their teens in the beginning) knew anything about the Mexican group. I would say “she” instead for MHJ.
Oh my gosh!!! I saw the letter that one of MHJ directors put out to apologize for using the Mexican group Jeans stuff!!! I can't wait to hear all the na sayers have to say Now!!! Of course the director said it was all his fault, But...she said she was the one that put it all together!!! She just put the word New in front of Jeans....lolololol....and i saw the pics of both groups and they copied the Mexican girls style almost to a T....and then there is the music, its very alike 😮 Lets see how she gets out of this obe cause the Jeans group is going after Ador for plagiarism 😂😅😂....i can't wait!!! To all the people that have been saying poor MHJ, Hybe is so mean to her!!!! 🤣😂😆😅🤣😂😆 she should have never gone after BTS, cause ARMY'S are working over time to find out all that she has ever done!!! I think she forgot about the White Papers.....lolol...a whole lot of Army's that work in different fields put that paper together and it was Great!!! Doctors, Lawyers, true Reporters....all got together for that one. 🤣😅😆🤣😅😂......Karma is fast at times!!
Hybe still owns New Jeans and I am pretty sure they're Done! They won't be let out of their contracts nor will they be used by Hybe. Sadly I see 5 talented girls working at the local cafe or ice cream shop. No other Company will touch them. Also they and their families will have to pay back Hybe.I blame MHJ for all of this and all the girls dreams are gone. Just my opinion. You have a Great Night...✌💜
no wonder HYBE did nothing to prevent her doing the press comferrence... they knew all her troubled behavior will come back to bite her...anyway its nice to hear u analyze these topics thank you
In the UK we have law that covers what she's doing which it's called 'Conspiracy to Defraud' eg you activitey plan to commit an act of Fraud but got caught before you were able to implement the crime.
and here bunnies are acting like nwjns is the 2nd coming of Christ (when it comes to the music industry anyway). at the end of the day they're just a knockoff of both SPEED and Jeans who didn't get nearly as much attention outside of their respective countries back in the day
dude as a bunnie we dont give a fuck about defending MHJ at least not in the same way army is defending BSH. literally both MHJ and BSH do not give a fuck about any of us so i dont know why you guys are so psycho about this issue. let it play out and go live a normal life.... bts does not love you back.
@@Doby-xc1le LMFAO I dont even stan BTS so you can calm down now I'm just calling it as I see it dont get mad at me lol. Direct ur anger at that p3do MHJ who has those members and their parents under her mind control lol
Those are precisely the reasons why MHJ threw all those mud for people to take notice snd talk about more than the actual reason why she's being chased by Hybe. We've seen it happen in most heist movies. How do those thieves get away from the police forces chasing them if they are in a crowded place? Throw the cash bills to block the chasers, have the crowd only care about the money floating around. MHJ is aware that K netizens love dramas/NJ fans are young people whose minds can easily be swayed and will likely wage a media war with MHJ (it's really happening). In her presscon, she mentioned two things that did not appear in her Court filing: 1) the accusation of plagiarism/copying because they made a cultural achievement (edit: as NJ)... now we're seeing it seems MHJ knows that she won't win this case. Now we know it's a knock offf jeans! 2) and the slave contract... Because she is the highest paid executive at Hybe. Definitely, Hybe has more on her.
Chatting shit about your job/employer over drinks is one thing, the level of detail they went into here is insane. Surely the investors they met (socially 🧐) will be able to give their side of what went down. As one of them is a HYBE investor he can’t be happy about the stock price fall, so they have no incentive to protect her. Every negative against her is “oh I was just joking” .
Ah yes, the time honoured "It was just a joke" defense. Does she really think people will just say "Oh, in that case everything is fine. Carry on"? That's just insulting to everyone.
I find it hard to believe that Min's incompetence, insubordination, defamatory targeted leaks against other Hybe groups, planning and implementing a Lone Wolf Warrior propaganda campaign . These are enough to fire her.
Hybe can fire her in normal board meeting. Normal board meeting at least in one year depend on the company. It take times. Now, Hybe want fire her immediately. It is difficult. The cannot fire her with no reason.
It should be enough for prison time. She was intentionally trying to harm other groups and their livelihoods and reputations, AND she intentionally tried to interfere and tamper with stockholders money in order to take over HYBE.
Min Hee Jin, truly reminds me of Amber Heard. I try to remain neutral, and hear the best from both sides. But I can't help me side eye whatever Min Hee Jin says.
Reminds me more of AOA's Mina. Same kind of emotional instability. Even though Amber chose clothes and colors that fit her narrative, at least she wasn't as emotionally unhinged as Min Heejin while shouting gaessekki ahjussi at Bang Shi Hyuk.
I find it funny how bunnies are defending this by excusing it and saying it's just inspo or that all 90s groups looked like that- anything to that effect cause when it was other groups , it was plagiarism but when its mhj its just inspo. Lets not forget mhj stealing the beat for attention from a very small artist. Shes a fraud but shes made herself the face of newjeans so bunnies are defending her with their life. You'll never catch any fandom doing this sht for any CEO
You have a point! I am also persuaded to think a lot of NJ fans are actually young people, and teenagers or am I wrong? If that's the case, it is understandable why they are acting that way!
@@ananyaa6664 Someone also said they have a lot of 'dirty old men' who also follow them I don't know if that's correct or not but it wouldn't surprise me.
@@irinaliudv380 sounds like your describing seoullite tv lmfafo that is his exact description. now all he seems to have left to live for is his parasocial relationships with v and jimin ... LOL
MHJ is a disaster, not only for NJ'S but also for the entire kpop industry and she's a complete liability for Hybe and their shareholders! The group is a total knockoff of that Mexican group and I'm sure others, even the name was stolen! For the sake of the industry, MHJ truly needs to go! Sean, thank you for the update❣️
the more I see the pictures showing their similarities, the more I'm shocked.. How can someone copy every single aspect of a group? This is beyond plagiarism.
In Australia we have a thing called ‘fiduciary duty’ - plotting like MHJ is a breach of that duty to shareholders. It would be a loss of confidence in the management of Ador. They may not be able to send her to prison, but it should be enough to remove her. I don’t know what the corporation law is like in Korea, but it would be where you go first. All this other drama is just noise. Rumours of embezzlement is promising in making sure she gets some punishment. Conspiracy to commit murder - that gets you arrested. She’s a terrible person and she really deserves to be punished, but we might just have to hope she gets pushed out of the industry
Lol “knockoff jeans” have publicly picked a side, so now they all need to be prepared for the legal consequences!!! They’ll become “washed up jeans” when MHJ goes down in the end!!
@@Aizannn they'd need humble adults around them to learn that, clearly the people around them are anything but... cant blame the literal kids, but the adults and parents failed them completely here.
When she loses the case, no one is going to work with her. She can't be trusted and has absolutely tarnished her reputation in the industry. I don't feel sorry for her.
Hybe as Min Hee Jin's employer is requiring her, whether at will or term, to follow the employee's duties to her employer as executed in their employment agreement that clearly define the obligations and duties the Employee owes to the Employer both during and after the employment relationship. Most general duties encompassed in employee agreements included are: Duty to be honest, Duty to be loyal, Not to disrupt business, for example, taking part in malicious actions against the company, Disclose wrongdoing (does not include ‘spent’ convictions), Carry out and follow orders of the employer, (as long as they are legal). Not to disclose the employer’s confidential information, Work with reasonable care and skill, Look after the employer’s artists properly, Not to compete in business against the employer while still working for them as an employee, Not to take bribes, Be prepared to change when the job changes, & Give any ideas/inventions to employer if developed by the employee during their employment. However, Min Hee Jin has violated all of Hybe's rules. Hybe with good intentions has given their full support & generous financial compensation from the start. But she became so greedy that she plotted evil ways to go against Hybe. What a sick mind, Hybe should definitely fire her asap.
The huge problem I have with MHJ is that she is a complete narcissist and HUGE hypocrite. I don't even believe in the whole style or makeup plagiarism thing, but the fact that her group also copied so many things from the past and then her attacking every other group in Korea for copying HER original work is just disgusting.
I thought it was just Hybe groups specifically she was accusing of plagiarism (part of her plan to take Hybe down specifically) was there anyone not from Hybe she accused? But yes huge hypocrite.
I went to Old Jeans aka First Jeans aka Jeans yt page and I really like their music. Im shocked Min is so offended at ILLIT for coping NewJeans though considering we now know she copied JEANS....this story just gets better and better. Biggest lesson here is the most important part of any kpop group is the foundation, the person who put the group together. Min Hee Jin is looking like shes the wrong person to put together a kpop group.
V referenced David Bowie as his influence for Layover, that’s class and how you do it. BTS always gives credit to the original artist as they are usually role models for them. Sure sometimes things slip through the crack and you rely on others for the creatives, and when that happens you apologies and correct the mistake. BTS have NEVER claimed any of the art as original and it shows the difference in class between them and MHJ who is the biggest narcissist I’ve seen in a long time. I’m waiting on Shakattak’s response on the ‘plagiarism’ accusation about NJ’s ‘Bubblegum’ song, they sound similar. Plagiarising music has copyright law in its side, unlike copying concepts.
the "adults" in the room really took advantage of the girls. so dishonest. HYBE had to bring the legal case against MHJ. The info that she wasn't being very original with her concept...seems to be a problem. By bringing the case, I think HYBE can show they were not a part of any wrong doing initially and that as soon as they became aware they did something about her dishonest practices. Honestly, I don't think MHJ has a leg to stand on any longer.
I'm not even a fans of the hybe artists but why I get mad at minheejin actions against her company. Now the tide has turned. Her lies is gradually expose. Really what comes around goes around.
Daang! Imagine having THE top floor office, and then you make a mess with other people in all of the floors below you 😶 That'll be an awkward elevator ride 😶
I was wondering the same thing about what the penalty for what she's done should be. I was watching KOREA NOW and a lawyer said that the penalty for corporate stealing is pretty severe. But I think that since she didn't actually succeed, she'd likely not suffer those severe penalties if she's found guilty. But that could explain why she panicked and called that crazy press conference where instead of refuting the accusations, she aired her grievances about HYBE and Bang Si-Hyuk and made a bunch of allegations to smear HYBE. She didn't have a defense but she had some mud to sling. I've been trying to find some grace for her because it's a lot for an individual to go against a powerful company. But, she just seems to be controlling and toxic.
Without Bang Si Hyuk's vision, where will Kpop be? Still in South Korea. Who made Kpop known internationally? MHJ? Who the $%&# is that? A what? Oh a shark? No? A cocodile perhaps? Yes? Why? Because crocks eat all
Have you ever seen a producer put his name at the beginning of the credits of an MV? At the end of V's "For Us" MV, the credits start and on the first line, in the center: Producer MIN HEE JIN
HYBE should tell MHJ that they will sell NJ and Ador to her for what she claims it's worth, 1 billion dollars. Otherwise she and NJ need to be kicked out and sued to return all the investment and fake earnings paid out.
Did I miss it or did he not know 1 of mhj's directors admitted to copying jeans as well as mangas such as astro boy and others...that makes an open free lawsuit for jeans and other creators/ companies
As an American, I’m unsure of how the law works in SK, but I’m surprised that HYBE wasn’t able to get the judges to compel MJH to return the company’s laptop as part of the evidence to submit. And in terms of MHJ’s mismanagement, between the plagiarism of the Shakatak song, which does violate international copyright laws, and the double dipping of the stylist, that seems to be just the top of her mismanagement. Lastly, in the US, once a person takes their idea, or plan in this case, and involves other employees, and actions are taken, that’s a conspiracy, which is sufficient for firing for cause. And since executives are supposed to held to a higher standard, I would think this would be enough for HYBE to fire her, at a HYBE board meeting - as ADOR is one of their subsidiaries. Don’t all the labels CEOs report to the HYBE Board? Who knows what the bylaws of ADOR are, but I would think that the HYBE representative could call for a board meeting with the 80% shares to make a quorum. And did MHJ ever pay back Bang PD for the loan to buy the shares of ADOR? Time to call that loan for full payment. Must be more than 1 way to skin this cat. Sorry to ramble, just so ticked off. Thanks for updating us on the happening of this saga.
The assembly of shareholders Ador (four shareholders) has been set for May 31 and has MHJ's dismissal on the agenda. The assembly should have been convened by the CEO (MHJ), who refused, so Hybe had to turn to a court and things went for long. The four shareholders are: Hybe (80%), MHJ (18%), the deputy CEO (1%), the general manager (1%). However, Mhj turned to the court to ask that Hybe is prevented from exercising its right to vote. Each of the five NewJeans presented a petition to support MHJ's request.
The majority shareholder can ask for the convening of the extraordinary shareholders' meeting, but it cannot convene it itself, it is the CEO that must do it.
@@bqanto Thank you for educating me on how things work at ADOR, I do appreciate it. Question for you, the Board must hold an annual board meeting - is that only convened by the CEO as well? Not that HYBE wants to wait, but if the annual board meeting doesn’t require the CEO to convene the meeting, then HYBE can just cut MJH from accessing anything related to HYBE and ADOR, and wait until the annual board meeting. I’m not sure how a court can stop the majority owner of a privately held label from exercising its rights to hire and fire. It is something that must be in South Korean law.
@@the50thJackieO MHJ has already been suspended for some time. On April 22, Hybe released a statement that they had initiated an audit and that MHJ had been suspended. She probably hasn't set foot in Ador offices since then. I don't know when the ordinary shareholders' meeting should be held, in any case the one for May 31st has already been set. Personally, I find it inconceivable that a court would agree to consider MHJ's request to exclude the majority shareholder from voting. I don't know if any Western judge would have accepted it. However, I am not even American but Italian, so I am not sure if in a system that follows Common Law it is acceptable or even mandatory to consider any request. In Italy judges rely exclusively on codes issued by Parliament.
Anyone with eyes can see that she copied that Mexican group, and has the audacity to come at others for so called copying and the kicker is had she not been so loud no one would’ve dug this up 😭
Well, ‘planning’ is ‘conspiring’ and is almost as bad as the ‘doing’; she went further than conspiring because she was actually taking steps to implement her plan. I don’t know what the laws are in Korea but in the western countries - like my own - conspiring DOES constitute a breach of trust. This is not just about her trying to ‘steal the girls’, this is about her conspiring against her own mother company and laying out the details to IMPLEMENT the plan. She HAS acted upon those plans with her meetings with investors etc. What does she have to gain about refusing to leave Ador?’ She’s reliant on Hybe for resources to run Ador and promo the girls…she’s at Hybe’s ‘mercy’; and Bang can make her life miserable/her ability to operate, in a way that isn’t provable in terms of intention. Why would you want to be at Ador when you know no one wants you there?! She’s a nut job.
Her plan is to ruin Hybe and BTS. She won’t leave because she has not taken then down. I think she is working with/for other big music companies, to destroy Hybe and BTS, thus taking out the major competitors. Remember, she came from SM.
@@cyann410 It won’t work. Hybe is the largest agency in Korea and newly designated a conglomerate. If she stays, now knowing what she’s capable of, they won’t give her ANY opportunity to access anything. She’ll have eyes on her 24/7. Her life will be miserable there.
@@cyann410We also remember that she was working with EXO when all the plagiarism accusations came out of SM. She's always whjned that BTS copied "her" concepts for EXO. I really think that from the start her plan was to try to destroy HYBE and BTS. I think it really pi$$Ed her off that BTS rose higher than EXO. Being the narcissist that she is, it drove her nuts.
I honestly don't mind if NJ were inspired by old acts, the same way I don't mind if other groups are inspired (allegedly) by NJ. In the art world, it's all been done before. The only difference is how each artist pulls it off. That's why we've all thought MHJ was so ridiculous to attack ILLIT to start with.
sadly, i think since NJ filed a complaint against HYBE to end their contacts, they chose their end... and all these plagiarisms and knockoff's stuff, their image is ruined
New Jeans may be able to survive this fiasco under Hybe. BSH is a genius, he has lots of cleaning up to do but he can handle all the damages inflicted by MHJ. The parents must stay out of this.
Like any bureaucracy, the government’s gotta look like they are doing something, but really they don’t want to do anything. If they did want to do something, they would tighten up laws regarding conspiracy to defraud, and making it so judges weren’t so beholden to public opinion, but to the rule of law. Plus copyrighting dance moves or choreography is a minefield. Start this and you’ll have Michael Jackson’s estate suing for monies, choreographers from around the world will be up in arms about copyrighting their dance moves.
The court cannot take away Hybe's right to fire Min HeeJin, I think the reasons for firing Min HeeJin are more than enough, they have shown that Min HeeJin is not capable of I see Ador, regarding the police investigation I have the suspicion that Hybe actually has more compelling evidence to fire her and send her to jail, Hybe is playing a game of chess with Min HeeJin, every time she makes a move to influence public opinion, Hybe does exactly the same, Hybe revealing those messages of Min HeeJin talking bad about New Jeans and its employees is just a move to heat up public opinion, they are playing the same game she started.
Between Shakatak and Jeans~ MHJ has shown us what copying really is. (Of course she will blame others and say she didn't know about, that it was presented to her by staff, etc.) Which proves that she shouldn't be a CEO of any company. One important rule of business: if there is a mistake, no matter if it's costly to the company and parent company~ you take the blame and accept the repercussions...she would never do that. In this case, it is directly her.
You are absolutely right about what the Korean public should do but 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂, they are notorious for their rampant, intrusive, and mostly negative comments (at least online).
is this not enough for her to lose trust already? Why would they wait for them to start losing money before they can get her out? This is messes up. One thing at least, MHJ is starting to lose her hold oj public opinion.
Its kind of shocking that the court can judge whether or not MHJ is a competent CEO. That judgement should be made by the majority shareholders as they have the most to lose. The CEO reports to shareholders , and so is accountable to the shareholders. If shareholders judge her performance as poor , then they should be able to replace her.
Yes you are correct, as employers they should have been able to fire her and then let her try to defend herself in court, like other people who are trying for unfair dismissal.
I was just commenting on this. If ADOR is owned by HYBE as a private label, then the firing of MHJ should be up to the Board of Directors at HYBE. They are the people along with the CEO of HYBE who report to shareholders. It should be easy enough for the HYBE to call a Board Meeting to fire MHJ. With all the stock volatility that MHJ has brought to the company, I’m sure shareholders would love to have her fired once they see the facts. And if MHJ won’t give up her shares in ADOR, then I’d let the label tank, and New Jeans if need be. Or move them to another label. Ultimately, New Jeans belongs to HYBE. And MHJ can’t stop ADOR from having at least 1 board meeting every year for governance purposes. HYBE can roll over any objections at that one meeting with their 80% majority ownership.
Accept that your beloved group copied other and so many others. New Jeans copied their style, dance moves, clothes, album design, the music, even the logo. It will hurt less if you accept already. You're going in every comment to defend with hate without a logical point won't help your case. New Jeans also don't love you. 🤷♀️
I seriously think new jeans parents should seriously grow up and take their daughters away very far away from Min Hee-jin what she’s doing to these girls will traumatize them for life even if they haven’t realized it yet… it’s their job to have more sense
@@beluuzz no doubt about but it’s more likely that min heejin will be taking money away from them than giving more considering she’s from sm and she’s probably been promising these supposed’ investors a lot of money 🙄🙄🙄
Another excellent report. The only thing missing is that apparently there is now a DJ whose (1996?) remix may have also been plagiarized by New Jeans. This was reported in sm over the weekend, but the DJ hasn't publicly responded to this latest issue discovered by Internet sleuths. HYBE is correct to methodically walk thru the steps to 1) fire MHJ, 2) take control of Ador, 3) re-stabilize HYBE's operations and market performance, 4) determine what to do about New Jeans, 5) have MHJ criminally charged, and 6) prepare the next steps in a civil case against her for making HYBE lose over 200 million won in the stock market. HYBE can't get any of this wrong or else MHJ will have a window back in to do more damage. HYBE has to keep the bulk of their evidence secret for this to get resolved over the long haul. We would all do the same if we were in HYBE's shoes. I read also over the weekend that the New Jeans girls have been on IG asking fans to continue to "love" them. I hope this is just a rumor because these girls have been thru enough. They may not even have a mv drop on the 24th for fear it's another plagiarized piece of work led by MHJ. I feel bad for the New Jeans because they didn't know they entangled themselves with a person who simply used them. This is such a tragic story for everyone involved with MHJ.
That's heartbreaking. I've never liked NJ's music aside from Hyoe Boy and Gods but learning of them asking fans to still "love them" is just sad. Hopefully, they'll manage to extricate themselves from MHJ.
tbh, at this point they need to start again from scratch and do an image overhaul. If they stay at Hybe, change their name, their concept, etc because if they stay as is there will always be the lingering doubt if what you see is original or a copy of an as of yet not identified earlier group.
That is why that hiatus is so needed, they need time to overcome this, let the water become still and for the girls to touch ground, have a taste of reality and go to teraphy so in a couple of years they can stand by their own in the industry, BP had 2 years hiatus already, with Hybe help thwy can make it if they shown progress.
@@PeaceLoveDolls I hope not. They need to touch ground. No more fancy free promotions just because their pretty faces. I agree with the CEO of Ador about them to need to keep humble and if even the CEO is thinking they have lost their ground then there must be something on it. No, they complained because the owner of their company did not greet them as they wanted, they are demanded to keep their status after alligned with their CEO in a moment they should keep a neutral possition. They have told us loud and clear here, they felt entitled to have keep reciving privilegies just because, they do not deserve any fancy collaborations, they need to go to hiatus in order to growth out of their conditioning and after climb their way out or the little storm their CEO trow them. They belong to Hybe, they are not going to go to the basement, they will still have a better start than 90% of the groups there, they need to win their pass to the top againg in order to show to their company they are trusted enough to invest money on them and they are not going to run to that woman at first chance they have even before their legal contract have ended.
@@PeaceLoveDolls Interesting... Some of my comments are being erased and I know for a fact I am not using "controversial language" but maybe my way of thinking seems to much crude for some. Ok. Here is my way of think. The members needs to be taken out of their actual enviroment in order to recalibrate their sense of reality, something important in teraphy, and in this case they have been probably being conditionated for a while probably a comeback is not the best idea because they are being trown to this twisted scenary they know. Ador had a plan to difamate Hybe and BTS, it seems they are going trought it. The last thing I would consider is to use a group that is under huge scrutiny and controversial to collaborate with my most valuable artist at the moment my company image is being so damaged and even more specially after the fans of the first group started a mocking campaing againts the group of such artist. No, you would not have BTS to be associated with NJ at this moment, once the wather has become still and the girls are emotionally and in a better mind frame then maybe they can work together. Right now you will only damage BTS reputation and it would be to much for many that after Ador tried so hard to drag every single Hybe group NJ use BTS to clean their image. I doubt ARMY likes that.
MHJ's days are numbered. K media didn't even talk about NJ copying "Shakatak", so hypocrite. MHJ's lawyer called RUclipsr, who is reporting the facts, 10 minutes before the air, threatened him like a bully, it makes me angry. Thank you Sean !!
🇰🇷 NewJeans는 노래와 뮤직비디오, 컨셉, 스타일과 패션, 헤어스타일 모든 것을 다른 작품에서 카피한 것으로 보여집니다. 특히 이번에 2개의 신곡인 Bubble Gum과 How Sweet은 둘 다 다른 노래를 표절했다는 의혹이 강하게 제기되고 있습니다. NewJeans는 최악의 카피캣이라고 생각합니다.
I'm so curious about whether or not she will get charged with plotting a pre-meditated takeover!!! If HYBE hadn't done anything then her plan would've worked, and then it would have been too late for HYBE, so they had to stop her. However, I can also see how she could get away with saying she was just kidding and get off scot-free 🙃 . This is intense 🤪.
MHJ is literally grasping at straws now. She keeps throwing out any irrelevant story she can come up with trying to deflect. It has already been proven that she has copied multiple sources - first it was the choreography dance, now it's the entire group concept. You would think that she would stay quiet about 'copying' to not put light on her own mess. This is the age of the Internet, after all. Its way too easy to find out. Even if she is corporately capable which I don't think, she has proven she is not mentally capable enough to be put in charge of children.
Under U. S. Criminal Law, it is necessary to demonstrate something called "an overt act in furtherance of ..." a crime. For example, a murder. This means that even if the intended murder was not realized (i.e. it is 'inchoate,' or, incomplete) a criminal act can still be determined to have occurred. This could be proven by the purchase of weapons, the solicitation of a hitman, surveillance of the intended victim, etc. In the case of MHJ, perhaps the alleged solicitation of potential investors, making inquiries of a financial analyst into how HYBE stocks could be tanked, etc. would suffice?
We have the same laws they all come the title of Conspiracy laws one is Conspiracy to defaud a person or company or charity etc another is conspiracy to commit murder, conspiracy to commit treason and many more.
So, let me understand: the Mexican group Jeans will sue Ador for plagiarism, which will have to compensate it with the money of Ador, that is, with the money of Hybe, that is, with BTS's money, that is, with our money? I hope that Hybe also sues MHJ to recover something, also because it is because of her that Hybe shares have fallen and continue to fall. She will have to sell her house. She'll end up working as the shaman's helper, howling behind a curtain.
Minjin is a female, so her obsession with the youth and innocence concept doesn't raise a red flag. Didn't she make a statement that one of her girls were so pretty when they were younger? Mind you, these girls are still young af. There is a reason why the members all have similar features: a soft, cute face. They will look young longer, and because most are of legal age, they can wear sexy outfits. Idk why we are celebrating this. Younger stans think this is cool and refreshing compared to other K-pop idols. But as a 30yro person, some of the MV left me feeling uncomfortable, I can't even explain it. I feel like I am watching these girls getting their innocence destroyed and ruined by predators. Maybe that is a reason why most people care about NJ. It is just normal for us to care about young children and feel the need to protect them.
I understand you. I feel unconfortable with the MVs. I felt disgusted with Bubble gum. There are a lot of sexual messages behind the images. Most of New Jeans fans and New Jeans members themselves are minors so they might not get it.
The sad part is New Jeans also feel that she is right all because of an incident in the elevator? Go ahead and throw mama from the Train and throw them with her ..
She completely ruined the biggest opportunity of her life. It's just...I cannot comprehend being in such a powerful career position & sabotaging it. Insane.
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Even the name New Jeans is a knockoff on the Jeans, a Mexican girl group that was active in the '90s. MHJ don't have a single original idea in her and yet she's the one complaining about copycat and plagiarism left and right. She has no shame.
As I commented elsewhere, it looks like 'new' jeans isn't so new after all.
The funny is she think Netizen wont find tat Mexican GG and safe to plagiarism them. even accused other GG is copying their concept and stole their Brands. my minds like.. Wat the hell this women.. did she think all people a sided with her? please.....
@@ystrw MHJ went thrifting, but tells everybody she bought a 'new jeans' 🤡
That's what narcissists do. They project their actions onto others while playing the victim.
I just want her fired. She don't have to go to jail. Just be gone
I m waiting for MHJ to clear her office for Jin Hit Entertainment .i have enough of this woman already
exactly!!! the top floor belongs to beloved💖 JInHit Entertainment!!!
👍💯🤣!!!!!!
@@utsukusih🤣🔥👍💯💯💯
I've already got the name tag for our WWH Jin💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
YES!!! JIN ENTERTAINMENT 🎉
Anyone who is trying to make this about “who copied who/what” is completely missing the point of the situation. It’s just a distraction tactic from MHJ to take away from the LITERAL CRIMES she was committing.
Agree..jail time its what she deserves
At this point, I dont't believe that they are fans anymore. They're just HATERS.
You’re right, but she swayed public opinion with her pity party press conference so getting this type of info out there can counter that. Hybe will address the main matter of the attempted coup in the courts.
✔️💯 true
I just hope MHJ pays a price as SK justice system is rather weak on punishment. Heck, Seungri got only 18 months and he pimped, drugged, & filmed many girls along with inciting violence.
Min hee jin had a GOLDEN opportunity in hybe, and her and new jeans would've had an amazing career trajectory, but her greed has completely stomped over their potential. Now, she has opened pandoras box and is getting exposed left and right. All this plagiarism accusations, leaked text messages, and everything is only pouring out because she made a grave mistake in trying to betray hybe, if she hadn't done this, she would have never been exposed if we're being honest.
💯❤
Shame, she would’ve been a heads up for woman power in the industry…
Mhj never worked for more than few years with her groups, she always star with new group once they get older, she always used lolita concept, if u look back she always used it in different ways, she was never planing on keeping nj, once she has no more inspiration and people get tired of her concept she simply go to next group, knetz in Korea were already dragging nj latest work..but they have big followers which make it hard to see the shift of opinions...but it was the same with exo/fx/rv....people criticised their cb a lot but their fandoms kept them among the top artists, go watch nct debut concept and the review of that time were pretty bad about sm appealing to lolita concept and sexualising minors. Kpop stan just forget.
SO 💯, she should just doing her job, creating good music and style. Now u make others digging all those pandora boxxxx
Wait a few weeks, Jinhit will clean out the 16th floor. Do you think the boys who built Hybe will let their house burn down? New Jean's must be disbanded because of the tarnish New Jean's parents and artists have caused. The breach of trust must be pounded home in Korean courts. Stolen proprietary intel, slander, pay for play, imbezelment. Hybe lost the plot when they gave Min top floor, open checkbook, stock options before New Jean's even proved itself. (Air Jordan became a millionaire after he torched the court not before.) Will any of the accomplices whistle blow on Min?
Ador Copying = Inspiration
Others Copying = Plagiarism
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taking inspo from a group that was active 30 years ago is not the same as taking inspo from a group that just debuted within the last 2 years under the same company.....illit threatens to cannabilize newjeans profitiability, but newjeans does not threaten jeans profitability LMFAO. like if anything, they became way more well known because of this. you guys are idiots i cant
double standard ha ha, and that is what they all say when cornered.
She really thinks if she causes chaos Hybe will go down? Delusional woman
New Jeans marketed initially by using HYBE's and BTS's name for hype, then mama gave them knockoff jeans. Karma, irony, or both? Because they aren't so original after all.
It's a hot take but I agree , only their mv beaing uploaded under hybe label was enough to caught attention of thoes who were not fan and doing dance challenges with bts members I mean come on its a best and cheapest way of promotion, not denying their hard work but mhj literally betrayed those who gave her the power so...
Don't drag the innocent members of New Jeans into this mess. MHJ would love this to take some of the heat off of her.
The audacity of MHJ to call Illit out for imitating New Jeans when she actually copied the Mexican girl group, Jeans. Has she no shame? I also heard that the director of New Jeans came out with a statement admitting to referencing the Mexican girl group Jeans, and that MHJ was okay with it. But the similarity is so out there, it doesn't seem like they just took inspiration from Jeans' concept. They actually copied the concept that you can't help but see this as plagiarism at it's finest form. She really also used the name New Jeans, like saying this is the newer version of the group Jeans. The fact that she also didn't give the group she referenced and took inspiration from for New Jeans the proper recognition reeks of plagiarism. She's another level of insane. She doesn't want to return the company laptop (because all her despicable plans are there), she refuses to leave HYBE (because she has bigger plans to take down HYBE...as if she can so dream on, ahjumma) and now this. Wow, she really dug her own grave, because everything's just gonna come crashing back at her. #karma
They stole concept from Mexican girl group, stole songs from British singers, stole MV from Japanese girl group Speed ... Is there anything they didn't steal?
I would be hesitant to say “they”. I seriously doubt the young girls in NJ (all in their teens in the beginning) knew anything about the Mexican group. I would say “she” instead for MHJ.
your money... ah wait!
Don't mess with the Mexican, they all will learn that
Look at Aussie teen TV shows from the 90 esp the ones near the ocean.
Hmmmm....nope😂
Now this is what we call KARMA
YES
Another series of Karma is an ARMY, and it come real fast this time.
Oh my gosh!!! I saw the letter that one of MHJ directors put out to apologize for using the Mexican group Jeans stuff!!!
I can't wait to hear all the na sayers have to say Now!!!
Of course the director said it was all his fault, But...she said she was the one that put it all together!!!
She just put the word New in front of Jeans....lolololol....and i saw the pics of both groups and they copied the Mexican girls style almost to a T....and then there is the music, its very alike 😮 Lets see how she gets out of this obe cause the Jeans group is going after Ador for plagiarism 😂😅😂....i can't wait!!!
To all the people that have been saying poor MHJ, Hybe is so mean to her!!!! 🤣😂😆😅🤣😂😆 she should have never gone after BTS, cause ARMY'S are working over time to find out all that she has ever done!!! I think she forgot about the White Papers.....lolol...a whole lot of Army's that work in different fields put that paper together and it was Great!!!
Doctors, Lawyers, true Reporters....all got together for that one. 🤣😅😆🤣😅😂......Karma is fast at times!!
LOOOLL She messed with the wrong fandom🤣😂
Yass yasss this is why you never can get outta being an ARMY. Army will bring the karma right back no matter how long it takes. I love it in here💜💜💜💜
MHJ’s strategic mistake was that it affected BTS!!!!!!
link please
Exactly!
I'm just disappointed at the girls to choose sides rather than stay neutral which was the best choice for them
Hybe still owns New Jeans and I am pretty sure they're Done! They won't be let out of their contracts nor will they be used by Hybe. Sadly I see 5 talented girls working at the local cafe or ice cream shop. No other Company will touch them. Also they and their families will have to pay back Hybe.I blame MHJ for all of this and all the girls dreams are gone. Just my opinion. You have a Great Night...✌💜
no wonder HYBE did nothing to prevent her doing the press comferrence... they knew all her troubled behavior will come back to bite her...anyway its nice to hear u analyze these topics thank you
What could Hybe have done? She still has her constitutional freedoms.
@@bqantoMHJ's lawyers from SK's biggest law group is also shaking heads.😂
In the UK we have law that covers what she's doing which it's called 'Conspiracy to Defraud' eg you activitey plan to commit an act of Fraud but got caught before you were able to implement the crime.
girl shut up literally any judicial system worth a grain of salt has the same thing. the fact that u think its special in any way to uk is idiotic
and here bunnies are acting like nwjns is the 2nd coming of Christ (when it comes to the music industry anyway). at the end of the day they're just a knockoff of both SPEED and Jeans who didn't get nearly as much attention outside of their respective countries back in the day
@@beluuzz real talk
dude as a bunnie we dont give a fuck about defending MHJ at least not in the same way army is defending BSH. literally both MHJ and BSH do not give a fuck about any of us so i dont know why you guys are so psycho about this issue. let it play out and go live a normal life.... bts does not love you back.
@@Doby-xc1le dude clearly you are not the only one in the fandom, and if YOU personally don't defend mhj, others do. isn't it obvious?
@@Doby-xc1le Give us a list of who we can defend.
@@Doby-xc1le LMFAO I dont even stan BTS so you can calm down now I'm just calling it as I see it dont get mad at me lol. Direct ur anger at that p3do MHJ who has those members and their parents under her mind control lol
Hybe should somehow get her laptop....thats the only way to put the final nail in the coffin
She is about to say Hybe sent someone to steal it and now she cant find it😅😅😅😅😅
What happens with work laptops they are programmed to back up on the cloud, so HYBE can access the information via the cloud.
They kind of did… that’s why they were able to access her kakao talks because it was stored in the company cloud
@@vybzalways5293You can't steal something that belongs to the company.They have every right to obtain that laptop.
And it’s not her laptop. She has basically stolen HYBE property and is refusing to return it.
It should be illegal what she has done. She has purposely tried to harm MANY groups.
Those are precisely the reasons why MHJ threw all those mud for people to take notice snd talk about more than the actual reason why she's being chased by Hybe.
We've seen it happen in most heist movies. How do those thieves get away from the police forces chasing them if they are in a crowded place? Throw the cash bills to block the chasers, have the crowd only care about the money floating around. MHJ is aware that K netizens love dramas/NJ fans are young people whose minds can easily be swayed and will likely wage a media war with MHJ (it's really happening).
In her presscon, she mentioned two things that did not appear in her Court filing: 1) the accusation of plagiarism/copying because they made a cultural achievement (edit: as NJ)... now we're seeing it seems MHJ knows that she won't win this case. Now we know it's a knock offf jeans! 2) and the slave contract... Because she is the highest paid executive at Hybe.
Definitely, Hybe has more on her.
Chatting shit about your job/employer over drinks is one thing, the level of detail they went into here is insane. Surely the investors they met (socially 🧐) will be able to give their side of what went down. As one of them is a HYBE investor he can’t be happy about the stock price fall, so they have no incentive to protect her. Every negative against her is “oh I was just joking” .
Ah yes, the time honoured "It was just a joke" defense. Does she really think people will just say "Oh, in that case everything is fine. Carry on"? That's just insulting to everyone.
Min Hee Jin: ONE RULE FOR ME AND ONE RULE FOR THEE 💀
umm lol ok so that is not the quote moron... like not even close.. like read what you type before you comment it maybe?
I find it hard to believe that Min's incompetence, insubordination, defamatory targeted leaks against other Hybe groups, planning and implementing a Lone Wolf Warrior propaganda campaign
. These are enough to fire her.
Unfortunately it is in sk
Hybe can fire her in normal board meeting. Normal board meeting at least in one year depend on the company. It take times. Now, Hybe want fire her immediately. It is difficult. The cannot fire her with no reason.
It should be enough for prison time. She was intentionally trying to harm other groups and their livelihoods and reputations, AND she intentionally tried to interfere and tamper with stockholders money in order to take over HYBE.
@@anistardino reason????
🤞 amen
Min Hee Jin, truly reminds me of Amber Heard. I try to remain neutral, and hear the best from both sides. But I can't help me side eye whatever Min Hee Jin says.
leave amber heard alone ffs
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Reminds me more of AOA's Mina. Same kind of emotional instability. Even though Amber chose clothes and colors that fit her narrative, at least she wasn't as emotionally unhinged as Min Heejin while shouting gaessekki ahjussi at Bang Shi Hyuk.
Min hee jin is 100000x worse than Amber. At least Amber had valid reasons to defend herself. MHJ is just trying to distract us from her crimes.
Yes. Min is the Amber Heard of South Korea.
She might not go to jail because she would use the mental-illness card. I can feel that she would resort to that than to serve herself in jail.
That's probably why she brought up the story about her sister's ghost.
I find it funny how bunnies are defending this by excusing it and saying it's just inspo or that all 90s groups looked like that- anything to that effect cause when it was other groups , it was plagiarism but when its mhj its just inspo. Lets not forget mhj stealing the beat for attention from a very small artist. Shes a fraud but shes made herself the face of newjeans so bunnies are defending her with their life. You'll never catch any fandom doing this sht for any CEO
You have a point! I am also persuaded to think a lot of NJ fans are actually young people, and teenagers or am I wrong? If that's the case, it is understandable why they are acting that way!
@@ananyaa6664 Someone also said they have a lot of 'dirty old men' who also follow them I don't know if that's correct or not but it wouldn't surprise me.
Of course they'd defend her. She's the mother of their beloved darlings and NJ will cry for her. 🙄
Their fans are kids. No sane person should defend the actions of MHJ.
@@irinaliudv380 sounds like your describing seoullite tv lmfafo that is his exact description. now all he seems to have left to live for is his parasocial relationships with v and jimin ... LOL
MHJ is a disaster, not only for NJ'S but also for the entire kpop industry and she's a complete liability for Hybe and their shareholders!
The group is a total knockoff of that Mexican group and I'm sure others, even the name was stolen! For the sake of the industry, MHJ truly needs to go!
Sean, thank you for the update❣️
the more I see the pictures showing their similarities, the more I'm shocked.. How can someone copy every single aspect of a group? This is beyond plagiarism.
how could she tell us the illit copied her when she literally copied all of jeans concept 😭💀
Yes I feel so bad for illit cause they are getting so much hate. It’s really sad cause it’s not their fault
In Australia we have a thing called ‘fiduciary duty’ - plotting like MHJ is a breach of that duty to shareholders. It would be a loss of confidence in the management of Ador. They may not be able to send her to prison, but it should be enough to remove her. I don’t know what the corporation law is like in Korea, but it would be where you go first. All this other drama is just noise. Rumours of embezzlement is promising in making sure she gets some punishment.
Conspiracy to commit murder - that gets you arrested. She’s a terrible person and she really deserves to be punished, but we might just have to hope she gets pushed out of the industry
Kick MHJ away, put her in Jail forever. Let BTS Jin prepared to get out from military to take over.
민희진은 뉴진스와 부모. 그리고 몇몇 지인들을 이용하여 회사를 가로채려는 나쁜 여자예요..
하이브에 대해 헛소문을 내고 어도어를 가지려는 이상한 여자입니다.
bts도 끝내려고 하는 카카오톡이 들어난 이상 아미들도 이젠 가만히 있진 않을겁니다.
Lol “knockoff jeans” have publicly picked a side, so now they all need to be prepared for the legal consequences!!! They’ll become “washed up jeans” when MHJ goes down in the end!!
Faded jeans 😂😂😂
Copy Jeans😂
Silly kids
Only if the girls stayed humble.. sad 😢
@@Aizannn they'd need humble adults around them to learn that, clearly the people around them are anything but... cant blame the literal kids, but the adults and parents failed them completely here.
When she loses the case, no one is going to work with her. She can't be trusted and has absolutely tarnished her reputation in the industry. I don't feel sorry for her.
INTENT should matter in legality because by the time an act is executed, it is too late. Degree of PLANNING show INTENT beyond a reasonable doubt.
HYBE: Here’s the evidence your honor 👨🏻💻
MHJ: THEY BULLIED ME AND NEW JEANS LOVES ME. YOU MUST KNOW😭
😂 exactly
bts💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Hybe as Min Hee Jin's employer is requiring her, whether at will or term, to follow the employee's duties to her employer as executed in their employment agreement that clearly define the obligations and duties the Employee owes to the Employer both during and after the employment relationship.
Most general duties encompassed in employee agreements included are: Duty to be honest, Duty to be loyal, Not to disrupt business, for example, taking part in malicious actions against the company, Disclose wrongdoing (does not include ‘spent’ convictions), Carry out and follow orders of the employer, (as long as they are legal).
Not to disclose the employer’s confidential information, Work with reasonable care and skill, Look after the employer’s artists properly, Not to compete in business against the employer while still working for them as an employee, Not to take bribes, Be prepared to change when the job changes, & Give any ideas/inventions to employer if developed by the employee during their employment.
However, Min Hee Jin has violated all of Hybe's rules. Hybe with good intentions has given their full support & generous financial compensation from the start. But she became so greedy that she plotted evil ways to go against Hybe. What a sick mind, Hybe should definitely fire her asap.
The huge problem I have with MHJ is that she is a complete narcissist and HUGE hypocrite. I don't even believe in the whole style or makeup plagiarism thing, but the fact that her group also copied so many things from the past and then her attacking every other group in Korea for copying HER original work is just disgusting.
I thought it was just Hybe groups specifically she was accusing of plagiarism (part of her plan to take Hybe down specifically) was there anyone not from Hybe she accused? But yes huge hypocrite.
@@roguechevelle The other group was Riize. That group is from SM.
She needs to go 💜
Who NJ's????
@@nathanielAdam5824MHJ leave together with NJ!!!!!!!!!
I went to Old Jeans aka First Jeans aka Jeans yt page and I really like their music. Im shocked Min is so offended at ILLIT for coping NewJeans though considering we now know she copied JEANS....this story just gets better and better. Biggest lesson here is the most important part of any kpop group is the foundation, the person who put the group together. Min Hee Jin is looking like shes the wrong person to put together a kpop group.
Illit concept is dream core magic girls. Illit has a webtoon summer moon.
Really satisfying content, I hope MHJ doesn't go unscathed for all the creepy, borderline criminal/ or just plain criminal behavior.
V referenced David Bowie as his influence for Layover, that’s class and how you do it. BTS always gives credit to the original artist as they are usually role models for them. Sure sometimes things slip through the crack and you rely on others for the creatives, and when that happens you apologies and correct the mistake. BTS have NEVER claimed any of the art as original and it shows the difference in class between them and MHJ who is the biggest narcissist I’ve seen in a long time. I’m waiting on Shakattak’s response on the ‘plagiarism’ accusation about NJ’s ‘Bubblegum’ song, they sound similar. Plagiarising music has copyright law in its side, unlike copying concepts.
AGREEE!! I'm waiting for their response. Hope MHJ gets sued. Then she'll wake up from her dreamland.
It really does sound similar, the NJ version is just on a higher pitch.
MHJ claiming plagiarism when she obviously was the one doing it 💀
usually people who talk the loudest tend to do things they accused others doing...karma
the "adults" in the room really took advantage of the girls. so dishonest.
HYBE had to bring the legal case against MHJ. The info that she wasn't being very original with her concept...seems to be a problem. By bringing the case, I think HYBE can show they were not a part of any wrong doing initially and that as soon as they became aware they did something about her dishonest practices.
Honestly, I don't think MHJ has a leg to stand on any longer.
I'm not even a fans of the hybe artists but why I get mad at minheejin actions against her company. Now the tide has turned. Her lies is gradually expose. Really what comes around goes around.
Daang! Imagine having THE top floor office, and then you make a mess with other people in all of the floors below you 😶 That'll be an awkward elevator ride 😶
The bottom line is that she can not be trusted in a position of power and needs to be gone legally (period)
I was wondering the same thing about what the penalty for what she's done should be. I was watching KOREA NOW and a lawyer said that the penalty for corporate stealing is pretty severe. But I think that since she didn't actually succeed, she'd likely not suffer those severe penalties if she's found guilty. But that could explain why she panicked and called that crazy press conference where instead of refuting the accusations, she aired her grievances about HYBE and Bang Si-Hyuk and made a bunch of allegations to smear HYBE. She didn't have a defense but she had some mud to sling. I've been trying to find some grace for her because it's a lot for an individual to go against a powerful company. But, she just seems to be controlling and toxic.
K-pop wouldn’t be the K-pop it is today without the “inspiration” from other western cultures.
im all the way with HYBE!!!!!! all the way with BANG PD!!!!
Without Bang Si Hyuk's vision, where will Kpop be? Still in South Korea. Who made Kpop known internationally? MHJ? Who the $%&# is that? A what? Oh a shark? No? A cocodile perhaps? Yes? Why? Because crocks eat all
Another great vid covering this subject, thank you.
Have you ever seen a producer put his name at the beginning of the credits of an MV? At the end of V's "For Us" MV, the credits start and on the first line, in the center: Producer MIN HEE JIN
HYBE should tell MHJ that they will sell NJ and Ador to her for what she claims it's worth, 1 billion dollars. Otherwise she and NJ need to be kicked out and sued to return all the investment and fake earnings paid out.
I thought New Fifty would be a fitting name for them, but maybe they should consider “Copy Cat” as their new group name.
New Copy gg
Ajumma, paid your deeds and go... far, faaar away.
Did I miss it or did he not know 1 of mhj's directors admitted to copying jeans as well as mangas such as astro boy and others...that makes an open free lawsuit for jeans and other creators/ companies
As an American, I’m unsure of how the law works in SK, but I’m surprised that HYBE wasn’t able to get the judges to compel MJH to return the company’s laptop as part of the evidence to submit. And in terms of MHJ’s mismanagement, between the plagiarism of the Shakatak song, which does violate international copyright laws, and the double dipping of the stylist, that seems to be just the top of her mismanagement. Lastly, in the US, once a person takes their idea, or plan in this case, and involves other employees, and actions are taken, that’s a conspiracy, which is sufficient for firing for cause. And since executives are supposed to held to a higher standard, I would think this would be enough for HYBE to fire her, at a HYBE board meeting - as ADOR is one of their subsidiaries. Don’t all the labels CEOs report to the HYBE Board? Who knows what the bylaws of ADOR are, but I would think that the HYBE representative could call for a board meeting with the 80% shares to make a quorum. And did MHJ ever pay back Bang PD for the loan to buy the shares of ADOR? Time to call that loan for full payment. Must be more than 1 way to skin this cat. Sorry to ramble, just so ticked off. Thanks for updating us on the happening of this saga.
The assembly of shareholders Ador (four shareholders) has been set for May 31 and has MHJ's dismissal on the agenda. The assembly should have been convened by the CEO (MHJ), who refused, so Hybe had to turn to a court and things went for long. The four shareholders are: Hybe (80%), MHJ (18%), the deputy CEO (1%), the general manager (1%). However, Mhj turned to the court to ask that Hybe is prevented from exercising its right to vote. Each of the five NewJeans presented a petition to support MHJ's request.
The majority shareholder can ask for the convening of the extraordinary shareholders' meeting, but it cannot convene it itself, it is the CEO that must do it.
@@bqanto Thank you for educating me on how things work at ADOR, I do appreciate it. Question for you, the Board must hold an annual board meeting - is that only convened by the CEO as well? Not that HYBE wants to wait, but if the annual board meeting doesn’t require the CEO to convene the meeting, then HYBE can just cut MJH from accessing anything related to HYBE and ADOR, and wait until the annual board meeting. I’m not sure how a court can stop the majority owner of a privately held label from exercising its rights to hire and fire. It is something that must be in South Korean law.
@@the50thJackieO MHJ has already been suspended for some time. On April 22, Hybe released a statement that they had initiated an audit and that MHJ had been suspended. She probably hasn't set foot in Ador offices since then. I don't know when the ordinary shareholders' meeting should be held, in any case the one for May 31st has already been set. Personally, I find it inconceivable that a court would agree to consider MHJ's request to exclude the majority shareholder from voting. I don't know if any Western judge would have accepted it. However, I am not even American but Italian, so I am not sure if in a system that follows Common Law it is acceptable or even mandatory to consider any request. In Italy judges rely exclusively on codes issued by Parliament.
Anyone with eyes can see that she copied that Mexican group, and has the audacity to come at others for so called copying and the kicker is had she not been so loud no one would’ve dug this up 😭
man this whole affair is so interesting, thanks you so much for your videos on it.
Well, ‘planning’ is ‘conspiring’ and is almost as bad as the ‘doing’; she went further than conspiring because she was actually taking steps to implement her plan. I don’t know what the laws are in Korea but in the western countries - like my own - conspiring DOES constitute a breach of trust.
This is not just about her trying to ‘steal the girls’, this is about her conspiring against her own mother company and laying out the details to IMPLEMENT the plan. She HAS acted upon those plans with her meetings with investors etc.
What does she have to gain about refusing to leave Ador?’ She’s reliant on Hybe for resources to run Ador and promo the girls…she’s at Hybe’s ‘mercy’; and Bang can make her life miserable/her ability to operate, in a way that isn’t provable in terms of intention. Why would you want to be at Ador when you know no one wants you there?! She’s a nut job.
Her plan is to ruin Hybe and BTS. She won’t leave because she has not taken then down. I think she is working with/for other big music companies, to destroy Hybe and BTS, thus taking out the major competitors. Remember, she came from SM.
@@cyann410 It won’t work. Hybe is the largest agency in Korea and newly designated a conglomerate. If she stays, now knowing what she’s capable of, they won’t give her ANY opportunity to access anything. She’ll have eyes on her 24/7. Her life will be miserable there.
MHJ's excuse of staying at Hybe is because she is worried for the girls. She's there for the girls. That's her excuse from day 1 of the interview.
@@cyann410We also remember that she was working with EXO when all the plagiarism accusations came out of SM. She's always whjned that BTS copied "her" concepts for EXO. I really think that from the start her plan was to try to destroy HYBE and BTS. I think it really pi$$Ed her off that BTS rose higher than EXO. Being the narcissist that she is, it drove her nuts.
@@Alt-ub2wd And she’s full of crap. Her texts have already shown that she actually h*tes them.
I honestly don't mind if NJ were inspired by old acts, the same way I don't mind if other groups are inspired (allegedly) by NJ. In the art world, it's all been done before. The only difference is how each artist pulls it off. That's why we've all thought MHJ was so ridiculous to attack ILLIT to start with.
sadly, i think since NJ filed a complaint against HYBE to end their contacts, they chose their end...
and all these plagiarisms and knockoff's stuff, their image is ruined
So the knockoff jeans will soon be faded jeans!! Anymore of your humour…I think I’m gonna have a Shak-attack!!
OMG couldn't have said it better
😂😊🤣😆😅👍🏻
They litterally said "ditto"
😂😂😂
New Jeans may be able to survive this fiasco under Hybe. BSH is a genius, he has lots of cleaning up to do but he can handle all the damages inflicted by MHJ. The parents must stay out of this.
Unfortunately I doubt that those brainwashed girls and their stage parents would ever agree to this
No way. They need to leave.
min hee jin fans have submitted a petition with 1000+ signs. it's time for ARMYs, FEARNOTs, ILLIT fans and BUNNIES who support HYBE to show them.
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With all of this. Their Government are preoccupied by the choreography copyright. Which will make them have headaches.
Like any bureaucracy, the government’s gotta look like they are doing something, but really they don’t want to do anything. If they did want to do something, they would tighten up laws regarding conspiracy to defraud, and making it so judges weren’t so beholden to public opinion, but to the rule of law. Plus copyrighting dance moves or choreography is a minefield. Start this and you’ll have Michael Jackson’s estate suing for monies, choreographers from around the world will be up in arms about copyrighting their dance moves.
AND NOW BELIFT IS SUING MHJ TOO!
The court cannot take away Hybe's right to fire Min HeeJin, I think the reasons for firing Min HeeJin are more than enough, they have shown that Min HeeJin is not capable of I see Ador, regarding the police investigation I have the suspicion that Hybe actually has more compelling evidence to fire her and send her to jail, Hybe is playing a game of chess with Min HeeJin, every time she makes a move to influence public opinion, Hybe does exactly the same, Hybe revealing those messages of Min HeeJin talking bad about New Jeans and its employees is just a move to heat up public opinion, they are playing the same game she started.
Between Shakatak and Jeans~ MHJ has shown us what copying really is. (Of course she will blame others and say she didn't know about, that it was presented to her by staff, etc.) Which proves that she shouldn't be a CEO of any company. One important rule of business: if there is a mistake, no matter if it's costly to the company and parent company~ you take the blame and accept the repercussions...she would never do that. In this case, it is directly her.
Hybe should’ve gotten a gag order against her! And sorry to say but the Korean public need to just be quiet and stay out of the legal battle.
You are absolutely right about what the Korean public should do but 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂, they are notorious for their rampant, intrusive, and mostly negative comments (at least online).
Remember AOA's Mina? They love hysterical crying women who speak about how bad the world has hurt them so much.
I really hope they can fire her. This type of behavior is unacceptable.
Hasn’t she demolished New Jeans all by herself?
It’s going to be a hard row to hoe going forward for NJs. There is always going to be an * next to them from this point forward.
is this not enough for her to lose trust already? Why would they wait for them to start losing money before they can get her out? This is messes up. One thing at least, MHJ is starting to lose her hold oj public opinion.
Its kind of shocking that the court can judge whether or not MHJ is a competent CEO. That judgement should be made by the majority shareholders as they have the most to lose. The CEO reports to shareholders , and so is accountable to the shareholders. If shareholders judge her performance as poor , then they should be able to replace her.
Yes you are correct, as employers they should have been able to fire her and then let her try to defend herself in court, like other people who are trying for unfair dismissal.
I was just commenting on this. If ADOR is owned by HYBE as a private label, then the firing of MHJ should be up to the Board of Directors at HYBE. They are the people along with the CEO of HYBE who report to shareholders. It should be easy enough for the HYBE to call a Board Meeting to fire MHJ. With all the stock volatility that MHJ has brought to the company, I’m sure shareholders would love to have her fired once they see the facts. And if MHJ won’t give up her shares in ADOR, then I’d let the label tank, and New Jeans if need be. Or move them to another label. Ultimately, New Jeans belongs to HYBE. And MHJ can’t stop ADOR from having at least 1 board meeting every year for governance purposes. HYBE can roll over any objections at that one meeting with their 80% majority ownership.
민희진의 인식. 내가하면 창조고. 남이하면. 카피고 누가봐도 카피인데 쯧
minjung, bts doesnt love you back. they wouldnt like you if they met you irl. they would think youre weird and creepy kkkkkkkk
Accept that your beloved group copied other and so many others.
New Jeans copied their style, dance moves, clothes, album design, the music, even the logo.
It will hurt less if you accept already.
You're going in every comment to defend with hate without a logical point won't help your case.
New Jeans also don't love you. 🤷♀️
Boomerang😂😂😂anyone,trying to tarnish BTS and their hard work,will end up crying,because good human beings always win.
Maby hybe already knew of her plagerism so it's why they dare to copy mhj 😂they were like you copied s.o else so well do the same
That title "Knockoff Jeans" took me out 🤣🤣🤣
If she can’t be fired, make her the bathroom maintenance person , I guarantee she will run out the door
Love not being a delusional Kpop fan. I can like them but admit they stole the concept
I seriously think new jeans parents should seriously grow up and take their daughters away very far away from Min Hee-jin what she’s doing to these girls will traumatize them for life even if they haven’t realized it yet… it’s their job to have more sense
@@beluuzz no doubt about but it’s more likely that min heejin will be taking money away from them than giving more considering she’s from sm and she’s probably been promising these supposed’ investors a lot of money 🙄🙄🙄
I feel so bad for Illit members. Bunnies and YG stans are straight up creating new accounts for bu!!ying them. MHJ needs to be locked up.
Another excellent report. The only thing missing is that apparently there is now a DJ whose (1996?) remix may have also been plagiarized by New Jeans. This was reported in sm over the weekend, but the DJ hasn't publicly responded to this latest issue discovered by Internet sleuths.
HYBE is correct to methodically walk thru the steps to 1) fire MHJ, 2) take control of Ador, 3) re-stabilize HYBE's operations and market performance, 4) determine what to do about New Jeans, 5) have MHJ criminally charged, and 6) prepare the next steps in a civil case against her for making HYBE lose over 200 million won in the stock market. HYBE can't get any of this wrong or else MHJ will have a window back in to do more damage. HYBE has to keep the bulk of their evidence secret for this to get resolved over the long haul. We would all do the same if we were in HYBE's shoes.
I read also over the weekend that the New Jeans girls have been on IG asking fans to continue to "love" them. I hope this is just a rumor because these girls have been thru enough. They may not even have a mv drop on the 24th for fear it's another plagiarized piece of work led by MHJ. I feel bad for the New Jeans because they didn't know they entangled themselves with a person who simply used them. This is such a tragic story for everyone involved with MHJ.
That's heartbreaking. I've never liked NJ's music aside from Hyoe Boy and Gods but learning of them asking fans to still "love them" is just sad. Hopefully, they'll manage to extricate themselves from MHJ.
tbh, at this point they need to start again from scratch and do an image overhaul. If they stay at Hybe, change their name, their concept, etc because if they stay as is there will always be the lingering doubt if what you see is original or a copy of an as of yet not identified earlier group.
That is why that hiatus is so needed, they need time to overcome this, let the water become still and for the girls to touch ground, have a taste of reality and go to teraphy so in a couple of years they can stand by their own in the industry, BP had 2 years hiatus already, with Hybe help thwy can make it if they shown progress.
Hybe will probably have Jin use New Jeans in his first or second song released out after his military service to help them get a fresh start.
@@PeaceLoveDolls I hope not. They need to touch ground. No more fancy free promotions just because their pretty faces.
I agree with the CEO of Ador about them to need to keep humble and if even the CEO is thinking they have lost their ground then there must be something on it.
No, they complained because the owner of their company did not greet them as they wanted, they are demanded to keep their status after alligned with their CEO in a moment they should keep a neutral possition. They have told us loud and clear here, they felt entitled to have keep reciving privilegies just because, they do not deserve any fancy collaborations, they need to go to hiatus in order to growth out of their conditioning and after climb their way out or the little storm their CEO trow them.
They belong to Hybe, they are not going to go to the basement, they will still have a better start than 90% of the groups there, they need to win their pass to the top againg in order to show to their company they are trusted enough to invest money on them and they are not going to run to that woman at first chance they have even before their legal contract have ended.
@@PeaceLoveDolls Interesting... Some of my comments are being erased and I know for a fact I am not using "controversial language" but maybe my way of thinking seems to much crude for some.
Ok. Here is my way of think. The members needs to be taken out of their actual enviroment in order to recalibrate their sense of reality, something important in teraphy, and in this case they have been probably being conditionated for a while probably a comeback is not the best idea because they are being trown to this twisted scenary they know.
Ador had a plan to difamate Hybe and BTS, it seems they are going trought it. The last thing I would consider is to use a group that is under huge scrutiny and controversial to collaborate with my most valuable artist at the moment my company image is being so damaged and even more specially after the fans of the first group started a mocking campaing againts the group of such artist.
No, you would not have BTS to be associated with NJ at this moment, once the wather has become still and the girls are emotionally and in a better mind frame then maybe they can work together. Right now you will only damage BTS reputation and it would be to much for many that after Ador tried so hard to drag every single Hybe group NJ use BTS to clean their image.
I doubt ARMY likes that.
MHJ's days are numbered.
K media didn't even talk about NJ copying "Shakatak", so hypocrite.
MHJ's lawyer called RUclipsr, who is reporting the facts, 10 minutes before the air, threatened him like a bully, it makes me angry.
Thank you Sean !!
Min Hee Jin receive the Phantom's thieve calling card.
🇰🇷 NewJeans는 노래와 뮤직비디오, 컨셉, 스타일과 패션, 헤어스타일 모든 것을 다른 작품에서 카피한 것으로 보여집니다. 특히 이번에 2개의 신곡인 Bubble Gum과 How Sweet은 둘 다 다른 노래를 표절했다는 의혹이 강하게 제기되고 있습니다. NewJeans는 최악의 카피캣이라고 생각합니다.
Just MHJ and take your New Jeans with you if that’s what you and supposedly their parents want. Don’t let the door hit you in your way out.
It's not that easy. Newjeans has to pay hybe 500 million
@@nicoleloss7987 maybe just to get rid of them they’ll waive anything.
I hope someone will tell Jeans of NJ plagiarism,sure they will not let this go,its money involved.
I'm so curious about whether or not she will get charged with plotting a pre-meditated takeover!!! If HYBE hadn't done anything then her plan would've worked, and then it would have been too late for HYBE, so they had to stop her. However, I can also see how she could get away with saying she was just kidding and get off scot-free 🙃 . This is intense 🤪.
MHJ is literally grasping at straws now. She keeps throwing out any irrelevant story she can come up with trying to deflect. It has already been proven that she has copied multiple sources - first it was the choreography dance, now it's the entire group concept. You would think that she would stay quiet about 'copying' to not put light on her own mess. This is the age of the Internet, after all. Its way too easy to find out. Even if she is corporately capable which I don't think, she has proven she is not mentally capable enough to be put in charge of children.
Thank you for your clear explanations. This is such a fascinating, ongoing, situation.
Under U. S. Criminal Law, it is necessary to demonstrate something called "an overt act in furtherance of ..." a crime. For example, a murder. This means that even if the intended murder was not realized (i.e. it is 'inchoate,' or, incomplete) a criminal act can still be determined to have occurred. This could be proven by the purchase of weapons, the solicitation of a hitman, surveillance of the intended victim, etc.
In the case of MHJ, perhaps the alleged solicitation of potential investors, making inquiries of a financial analyst into how HYBE stocks could be tanked, etc. would suffice?
Yes brilliant!
We have the same laws they all come the title of Conspiracy laws one is Conspiracy to defaud a person or company or charity etc another is conspiracy to commit murder, conspiracy to commit treason and many more.
Yes was thinking same cos the press conference tanked hybe shares and meeting of the investors should be enough
So, let me understand: the Mexican group Jeans will sue Ador for plagiarism, which will have to compensate it with the money of Ador, that is, with the money of Hybe, that is, with BTS's money, that is, with our money? I hope that Hybe also sues MHJ to recover something, also because it is because of her that Hybe shares have fallen and continue to fall. She will have to sell her house. She'll end up working as the shaman's helper, howling behind a curtain.
I understand your anger but your last sentence was funny! You gave me a good laugh! Thank you. I was having a bad day!🤣🤣
This would be the picture of poetic justice 🤣
YOU CAN NEVER WIN PLAYING DIRTY..KARMA IS REAL, YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW, WHAT GOES AROUND COMES BACK AROUND....
Jeans at home: New jeans 😂
Minjin is a female, so her obsession with the youth and innocence concept doesn't raise a red flag. Didn't she make a statement that one of her girls were so pretty when they were younger? Mind you, these girls are still young af. There is a reason why the members all have similar features: a soft, cute face. They will look young longer, and because most are of legal age, they can wear sexy outfits. Idk why we are celebrating this. Younger stans think this is cool and refreshing compared to other K-pop idols. But as a 30yro person, some of the MV left me feeling uncomfortable, I can't even explain it. I feel like I am watching these girls getting their innocence destroyed and ruined by predators. Maybe that is a reason why most people care about NJ. It is just normal for us to care about young children and feel the need to protect them.
I understand you.
I feel unconfortable with the MVs.
I felt disgusted with Bubble gum.
There are a lot of sexual messages behind the images.
Most of New Jeans fans and New Jeans members themselves are minors so they might not get it.
Facts❤
She got them some walmart jeans😂😂😂😂
The sad part is New Jeans also feel that she is right all because of an incident in the elevator? Go ahead and throw mama from the Train and throw them with her ..
She completely ruined the biggest opportunity of her life. It's just...I cannot comprehend being in such a powerful career position & sabotaging it. Insane.
Inspiration don't exist no more... it's very sad that the dead receive more flowers than the living because regret is stronger than gratitude 😐
Their is a different. Her copyed
Cause HYBE caught her before she "sealed the deal"!!!