Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your incoherent comment were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this page is now dumber for having read it.
OK, i'm sure the RUclips algorithm has had a serious upgrade because i'm finding all sorts of awesome content recently and many are channels with very few subscribers. This is great.
Yeah. As much as I loathe Google LLC they've got me pegged in terms of video content I like. I suspect it's using generative AI. Which seems to be working less well for their actual search engine so who knows.
AI is just the exact same technology, which just happens to be called a neural network but it's a series of sensors and mathematical calculations, that's been used for image recognition, image manipulation and social media algorithms for decades now. Google search I believe might be a more straightforward thing, not sure what the technology for comparing something against a database of many series of letters is.
As a piano player, this looks daunting and tedious. If you’re game to re-learning the entire structure, fingering and muscle memory… great!! Brilliant concept, but reminds me of the Dvorak or “ergonomic” keyboards.
You also see the disadvantage of the smaller note spacing in this very video as he accidentally hits some adjacent notes in his faster section. Yes you can reach farther, but you have to be much more accurate with your placement and jumps
I don't agree with either of you I'm afraid. The piano keyboard is designed for the thumb to predominantly play white notes. This means different fingerings for different keys. That's fine when there is no spontaneous decision making, as in reading classical music but for improvisation it is seriously limiting. As the narrator mentions, the button accordion system is similar and in my view a superior concept. Take some time to listen to jazz button accordionists. The virtuosity is off the scale and changing keys is no problems. That chord shapes and sequences are virtually identical aids their immediate recognition regardless of key, and would assist developing musicians no end. The demonstrator here is with due respect, a comparative novice on this system. Someone brought up on this from a young age would be as dexterous as any concert pianist I'm sure. The standard keyboard was developed hundreds of years ago and in my opinion needs radically upgrading. I do accept change will not be easy.
@@nigelhart3897 I can see your point. But I’m basing my opinion on having played piano since the 80’s. The layout is so ingrained in me it would be really hard to try something else. For new learners this system might be better. Good luck getting mainstream traction though.
@@MrTangent I'm with you in many regards. I play piano and piano accordion, the piano for many years as a professional (still am), and agree for me too, to change is not viable. I have developed my technique to use universal fingering I.e. using arm and wrist to facilitate the thumb, so all keys use pretty much the same fingers regardless of black notes, whenever possible. (I hope that makes sense!?) In addition for me, black notes on piano are set frustratingly high in that even fully depressed they still aren't at the level of the white keys. Hence moving white to black, finger to thumb is harder than it need be. Even so, I can for example play all scales in all keys in F major fingering very quickly and efficiently. I just feel the system is far from perfect, could be improved drastically and the button accordion (naturally I play piano accordion) is far superior. That so much of piano playing relies on developing good technique on an antiquated system is a massive limiting factor in my mind. How it is changed with the current keyboard system being so enshrined I have no idea. I am hopeful when I see systems like this evolving. However things pan out, I agree it is too late for the likes of you and I. Best wishes.
I absolutely suck at piano, but I want to be able to play chords more quickly and easily for the sake of composition. I would absolutely love to have one of these for that purpose, but... good lord they are expensive and hard to find. I wish they'd made a cheap midi one that was half the size.
I've been interested in keyboards with layouts that make sense for xenharmonic tunings, which poses a similar problem. So far, the best I have is my laptop keyboard, but I'm planning to start using a tablet's touch-screen. (I just may have a software problem with the tablet: The software I would use works fine on my phone, which is just too small. Tablet's still are limited in size and not pressure sensitive of course, though, and I'm sure there's awkwardness that comes with them, just the same as when using a computer keyboard.
Can this be easily retuned? I would like to encorporate this style of keyboard but with a stretched Pythagorean scale and octave, so a scale going up from C would be C D E E# Fx Gx Ax B# Cx Dx D* E* F* G* A*. I would Also like to have 2 foot pedals that can shif the odd rows up or down a Pythagorean comma with one pedal, and shift the even number rows up or down a Pythagorean comma. This would allow for perfect modulation of the above scale on to any other tonic note.
I'm shure there are people willing to relearn what they learned and testing if you can play what composers have composed. As long as I hear no virtuoso playing this in a virtuous manner (and you are not a virtuoso), I have doubt it's useful.
You must not be creative enough, because you can do literally anything you could do with a regular piano keyboard with more compactness so different note combinations are easier for people with smaller hands.
A guitarist's fretboard on a piano. This is insane.
That was exactly my thought!
It's weird to look at but also makes perfect sense to my guitar/bass brain!
*ding
more like an accordion
Esto se ve como un acordeón.
Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your incoherent comment were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this page is now dumber for having read it.
OK, i'm sure the RUclips algorithm has had a serious upgrade because i'm finding all sorts of awesome content recently and many are channels with very few subscribers. This is great.
Hope our channels get boosted
It's not really an algorithm. It was once, but got superseded.
Yeah. As much as I loathe Google LLC they've got me pegged in terms of video content I like. I suspect it's using generative AI. Which seems to be working less well for their actual search engine so who knows.
AI is just the exact same technology, which just happens to be called a neural network but it's a series of sensors and mathematical calculations, that's been used for image recognition, image manipulation and social media algorithms for decades now. Google search I believe might be a more straightforward thing, not sure what the technology for comparing something against a database of many series of letters is.
best idea i have ever seen - now the notation have to write in holetones, so you can read every chord in the same structure ...
Sonido 13 moment
Looks like it’d be pretty good as a microtonal instrument too.
The general key layout maybe, but the mechanics of this specific instrument are such that all buttons in one column represent the same note.
Lumatone does it better ;-)
This needs to be everywhere.
Why?
@@TheToughBaby Why not?
@@ashwinrawat9622 Ok
As a piano player, this looks daunting and tedious. If you’re game to re-learning the entire structure, fingering and muscle memory… great!! Brilliant concept, but reminds me of the Dvorak or “ergonomic” keyboards.
You also see the disadvantage of the smaller note spacing in this very video as he accidentally hits some adjacent notes in his faster section. Yes you can reach farther, but you have to be much more accurate with your placement and jumps
I don't agree with either of you I'm afraid. The piano keyboard is designed for the thumb to predominantly play white notes. This means different fingerings for different keys. That's fine when there is no spontaneous decision making, as in reading classical music but for improvisation it is seriously limiting. As the narrator mentions, the button accordion system is similar and in my view a superior concept. Take some time to listen to jazz button accordionists. The virtuosity is off the scale and changing keys is no problems. That chord shapes and sequences are virtually identical aids their immediate recognition regardless of key, and would assist developing musicians no end. The demonstrator here is with due respect, a comparative novice on this system. Someone brought up on this from a young age would be as dexterous as any concert pianist I'm sure. The standard keyboard was developed hundreds of years ago and in my opinion needs radically upgrading. I do accept change will not be easy.
@@nigelhart3897 I can see your point. But I’m basing my opinion on having played piano since the 80’s. The layout is so ingrained in me it would be really hard to try something else. For new learners this system might be better. Good luck getting mainstream traction though.
@@MrTangent
I'm with you in many regards. I play piano and piano accordion, the piano for many years as a professional (still am), and agree for me too, to change is not viable. I have developed my technique to use universal fingering I.e. using arm and wrist to facilitate the thumb, so all keys use pretty much the same fingers regardless of black notes, whenever possible. (I hope that makes sense!?) In addition for me, black notes on piano are set frustratingly high in that even fully depressed they still aren't at the level of the white keys. Hence moving white to black, finger to thumb is harder than it need be. Even so, I can for example play all scales in all keys in F major fingering very quickly and efficiently. I just feel the system is far from perfect, could be improved drastically and the button accordion (naturally I play piano accordion) is far superior. That so much of piano playing relies on developing good technique on an antiquated system is a massive limiting factor in my mind. How it is changed with the current keyboard system being so enshrined I have no idea. I am hopeful when I see systems like this evolving. However things pan out, I agree it is too late for the likes of you and I. Best wishes.
I absolutely suck at piano, but I want to be able to play chords more quickly and easily for the sake of composition. I would absolutely love to have one of these for that purpose, but... good lord they are expensive and hard to find. I wish they'd made a cheap midi one that was half the size.
I've been interested in keyboards with layouts that make sense for xenharmonic tunings, which poses a similar problem. So far, the best I have is my laptop keyboard, but I'm planning to start using a tablet's touch-screen. (I just may have a software problem with the tablet: The software I would use works fine on my phone, which is just too small. Tablet's still are limited in size and not pressure sensitive of course, though, and I'm sure there's awkwardness that comes with them, just the same as when using a computer keyboard.
this is so cool! are there videos of it being played?
Greetings! Wondering how much you are asking, how to go about purchasing and if possible to ship to the states? Thanks!
But can you play Rach's 3rd concerto on it? That's the question!
Is this still available? Looking to buy a Chromatone or Wholetone Revolution
Thanks, it's genius
Can this be easily retuned? I would like to encorporate this style of keyboard but with a stretched Pythagorean scale and octave, so a scale going up from C would be C D E E# Fx Gx Ax B# Cx Dx D* E* F* G* A*. I would Also like to have 2 foot pedals that can shif the odd rows up or down a Pythagorean comma with one pedal, and shift the even number rows up or down a Pythagorean comma. This would allow for perfect modulation of the above scale on to any other tonic note.
By the look of it, this should be the ideal project for 3D printing. Has anyone tried such a thing?
que ganas de cimplicarse la vida tan facil y bonita
Great explanation thanks
I've been sporadically making Wholetone Revolution videos on my channel, mostly Bach Inventions.
Exactly what I've been looking for, thank you! :)
Very nice bro, but I couldn’t help notice your paint stained pants. Original
i always thought the piano was 1 dimensional compared to the guitar being 2 dimensional. I wonder how we can get it 3 dimensional?
TAKE MY MONEY!!!!!
Лежачий баян изобрели! Тоже мне революция
Presuming this sold?
One on Ebay now for sale as of March 2021
its possible to set B-griff configuration?
k, but what use is to play parallel chords? They sound boring...
See, that's what I'm saying. So this makes it easier to transition between chords quickly? So what
But where is the spacebar?
Just joking, thanks for the video! I'd love to have a wholetone.
1:40 Life finds a way.
Did you allready sold it?
Could you play left hand strides easily with this
When did this come out I want one and why havent I heard of this before how much you want for it
You in NEW JERSEY!?
playing something thats like a type writer no thanks
it wouldnt feel natural to me
Oh, another Jankó video! I have still yet to try a proper Jankó keyboard (I’ve only tried the similar 12-TET Bosanquet)
Hey, I'm interested as well, I live in Hungary. Let me know how can I reach you.
a bit teaching between two coats of paint ;-)) roooofl (that's great anyway)
Those keys seem too small and might lead to misplayed notes more often than a regular piano keyboard. That's a small target.
Thats korg karma
I'm shure there are people willing to relearn what they learned and testing if you can play what composers have composed. As long as I hear no virtuoso playing this in a virtuous manner (and you are not a virtuoso), I have doubt it's useful.
I had no idea Gnu Emacs was a musical instrument
Электро баян. Хрень полная.
It is impossible to play any complex work on this.
You must not be creative enough, because you can do literally anything you could do with a regular piano keyboard with more compactness so different note combinations are easier for people with smaller hands.
@@TundieRice Is this easier to play with a small penis? Asking for a friend...
Just dig a bit deeper on RUclips and get surprised.
cant stop looking at those shoes... where do you even buy shoes that terrible?
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. This is weird and unnecessary.
The question is: Why??? what is the pourpose? Why! 😕