Beautiful job! What perfectionists! I tuned in because I want to do my tiny patio and was looking for tips, but as a trainee female Plumber it's really encouraging to see another female working in construction!
McReady I also have that thought when I start a dig and I spare a thought for all those people who have relatives who have just dissapeared into thin air. Worse is the thought that some youg girl is being held at this very moment in some monster's dungeon. It happens.
Brill. Doing a tad bit in the garden. Only a small area to place a plastic she or box down. But even this takes more work than I realise. The labour part must have been back breaking. but, spot on peeps. Great video editing to keep us interested.
i remember laying them one time an hour later the client an her spouse where standing on some of the stones complaning they were wobbly needless to say the air was blue
lovely job ,only thing i would say never a good thing to lay bricks on top of paving always a chance the paving moves and the bricks pop up ,but not a major thing ,looks good
Excellent job; I'd do it exactly the same way. Even down to wetting it before photosl😂 and trimming joints with the 4 inch grinder. Stunning results! If you need a hand give me a shout we'd work well together. Even the video was put together extremely well thanks to Rogers right hand man,( sorry I've forgotten your name.) Two things though, I would have used larger pieces in the manhole tray cut from the same slab as the one on the outside. And place pebbles after jointing, saves excess jointing material getting into the pebbles.
Yep, I've built four large patios over last couple of years, in both Indian Sandstone & good old Marshall Pendle Buff 600mm slabs. First pair of patios (Sandstone & Marshall), I used cement pointing and it was difficult to get a consistently good colour match across many mixes and even with a fairly dry cement/mortar mix you had to be super careful not to stain the edges of the slabs (especially with the Indian Sandstone). So you're there with a bucket of clean water and a sponge just in case you need to rub some mortar off the slab edges. Second pair (one being a Kandia Grey Sandstone patio for my daughter & the other a Buff Pendle) I decided to shell out & went with Flint & Buff Coloured Sika All Weather Jointing Compounds. Difference over cement/mortar mix is "night and day", just lightly spray the slabs with water, brush in the consistenly coloured Jointing Compound, pointing iron the joints, brush any residue into the next joint, and so on 👍😀 It's much more expensive than a cement/mortar mix 😱 but when you consider it takes about quarter the time to point the joints, provides consistent colour high quality joints and there's no cement on slab edges to worry about it's a no brainer 👍. I personally won't be going back to cement/mortar jointing any time soon, unless the client specifically states they want it (& it'll cost them for the additional time it takes 😂).
Great job, one of the few excellent videos on youtube. Great zoomed in detail and answers many questions the DIY'er is apprehensive about. My project is almost identical to this one. Hopefully the end result is the same too!!
Having familly about that just crack on is the best. Building, shifting, making tea and bacon sarnies, even kids looking after kids to keep 'em out the way and just do handprints in the fresh cement. It's the british way.
If I remember correctly from college c1980 ,no more than 5 slabs on a straight joint then break the line. Tbh can't remember might have been 7 but that seems too long. And of course,no cross joints . I used to put one cross joint in the corner somewhere just because I could 😉
Thought it turned out well, Roger have you checked out Brockstone Landscape construction it would be great if you had them on and interpreted what the heck he's saying.
Beautiful job and loved the filming and editing. 32 months in our new build house and still not attempted the garden 🙄. We do like this stone though 😍😍🧱👍🏽
You can't really because they are irregular sizes you need a decent grout gap and the grout will crack if layed on sand. With uniform concrete slabs sure you can and sweep in kiln dried
@@ricos1497 There are 2 or 3 mixing blades inside it. Shovel can get caught in them and hurt you if not paying attention or it catches in your clothing. I think many of us do it though, just gotta watch how you hold the shovel.
Spot on Garry, never ever put your arm or a shovel in a mixer, very dodgy unless you’re looking to loose a hand or arm. And whacking the bead, not too clever.
@@ricos1497 can twist and break your arm if the shovel or your hand gets caught. That being said I’ve done it many times and as long as you pay attention you’re fine
Easy joint is designed for use with a porous sub base and concrete isn’t very porous. Joints will fill up with water and will grow moss and Algae and also blow when it freezes.
Had my patio laid like this a few years ago, and have been having the same problem with the grout. After less than a year I was having to chisel parts out to replace it, not difficult but it's a constant battle.
It’s not only breaching the DPC that you have to watch out for but also rain splash. The DPC is supposed to be put in to a specific height to leave the water that will hit the rocks under the DPC and so not cause a problem with rising damp.
@@davideyres955 The fact is that nowadays we have wheel chair access thesholds as part of the Building Regs so the 150mm is waived in those areas. It is best to have a porch or canopy to stop the splash but on a PVCu door it is not such a problem.
There are thin 50mm drainage grill strips available like miniature acco to put between the wall and the slab in exposed weather areas but it's a bit ott in my opinion in normal conditions.
Depending on the porosity of the slab it should be a mix of SBR and cement. Stone like Brazilian slate definitely needs it otherwise the slabs won't bond.
@@SkillBuilder never heard of that one before 😅 sbr always mixed with Cement beforehand then rolled/ brushed on . Or even better buy the proper slurry mix in bags and knock it up with water 👍🏻
The application suits the property. Not everyone wants the tiled look. Although it has its merits and probably easier to lay. The riven surface of Indian sandstone can be a pain to get right. Because its a natural product you get high points where you don't want them but you can chip them down before the jointing stage because the colour goes right through.
This wasn't a job that I attended so I thought it best to leave the pictures to do the talking. Judging by the number of unsubscribes on my last video there are lots of people out there who think I should keep quiet permanently. 😃
@@SkillBuilder Fair enough Roger, don't worry about the fickle types, your channel is great for me, a working handyman as a career change/hustle thing.. : )
@@westonsunset Thanks Mark. I am not worried because I go out of my way to provoke so I am fair game. I just think a video that doesn't involve me in any way is kind of liberating.
Nice patio, shame it was ruined by using Easy joint. No 'professional' should be using that rubbish imo, it's a permeable product, much better off having a non permeable joint & it just doesn't last.
Please NEVER put your hand inside a mixing drum when running....never any need to go inside as you can poor anything in at the front as it is leant backwards...
Beautiful job!
What perfectionists!
I tuned in because I want to do my tiny patio and was looking for tips, but as a trainee female Plumber it's really encouraging to see another female working in construction!
If you're working around an open manhole you should cover it over with polythene or similar to stop mortar dropping into the channel.
Skills don't need to.
This guy knows what he's doing, there's really no need to.
How do you know there’s nothing in the bottom to catch it?
always relieved when its not a fred west patio
😆
McReady
I also have that thought when I start a dig and I spare a thought for all those people who have relatives who have just dissapeared into thin air. Worse is the thought that some youg girl is being held at this very moment in some monster's dungeon. It happens.
Brill. Doing a tad bit in the garden. Only a small area to place a plastic she or box down. But even this takes more work than I realise. The labour part must have been back breaking. but, spot on peeps. Great video editing to keep us interested.
Great job I put some Indian sandstone slabs down they look great but dam brake so easy lifting them out the crate but once they’re down they’re solid👍
i remember laying them one time an hour later the client an her spouse where standing on some of the stones complaning they were wobbly needless to say the air was blue
A lot of work/graft involved when doing a job like this and a lot of expense. Just done mine.
Good luck to anyone having any home improvements done!
Looks like a great job. Nice to see not just guys in the building trade.
lovely job ,only thing i would say never a good thing to lay bricks on top of paving always a chance the paving moves and the bricks pop up ,but not a major thing ,looks good
Excellent job; I'd do it exactly the same way. Even down to wetting it before photosl😂 and trimming joints with the 4 inch grinder. Stunning results! If you need a hand give me a shout we'd work well together.
Even the video was put together extremely well thanks to Rogers right hand man,( sorry I've forgotten your name.)
Two things though, I would have used larger pieces in the manhole tray cut from the same slab as the one on the outside.
And place pebbles after jointing, saves excess jointing material getting into the pebbles.
So good I'm going to watch it again.
Excellent job. Alot of hard work is that
Proper job built to last and ISS looks great. I personally prefer nice cement pointing but I understand why people use the brush in resin stuff. 👍
Yep, I've built four large patios over last couple of years, in both Indian Sandstone & good old Marshall Pendle Buff 600mm slabs. First pair of patios (Sandstone & Marshall), I used cement pointing and it was difficult to get a consistently good colour match across many mixes and even with a fairly dry cement/mortar mix you had to be super careful not to stain the edges of the slabs (especially with the Indian Sandstone). So you're there with a bucket of clean water and a sponge just in case you need to rub some mortar off the slab edges. Second pair (one being a Kandia Grey Sandstone patio for my daughter & the other a Buff Pendle) I decided to shell out & went with Flint & Buff Coloured Sika All Weather Jointing Compounds. Difference over cement/mortar mix is "night and day", just lightly spray the slabs with water, brush in the consistenly coloured Jointing Compound, pointing iron the joints, brush any residue into the next joint, and so on 👍😀 It's much more expensive than a cement/mortar mix 😱 but when you consider it takes about quarter the time to point the joints, provides consistent colour high quality joints and there's no cement on slab edges to worry about it's a no brainer 👍. I personally won't be going back to cement/mortar jointing any time soon, unless the client specifically states they want it (& it'll cost them for the additional time it takes 😂).
Exactly sand and cement ends up looking shitty and then always bit of window framing
..back butter with cement slurry/pva....if you know..you know....
@Rocky Mount I'm thinking of using the sika myself on a pointing job I'm doing. Just wondering about the longevity of it?
Great job, one of the few excellent videos on youtube. Great zoomed in detail and answers many questions the DIY'er is apprehensive about. My project is almost identical to this one. Hopefully the end result is the same too!!
Some good work gone into the audio on this vid 👍🏼
Don’t need audio
That resin sand is pony, last 2 years if ya lucky. Definitely press it down in the joints hard. Can’t beat traditional sand and cement pointing
Having familly about that just crack on is the best. Building, shifting, making tea and bacon sarnies, even kids looking after kids to keep 'em out the way and just do handprints in the fresh cement. It's the british way.
Great job, super impressive. Has the jointing held out?
Groundwork was good enough for the traffic. One tip, never have 4 corners meeting in a random paving pattern, absolute no no.
or too many straight lines
If I remember correctly from college c1980 ,no more than 5 slabs on a straight joint then break the line. Tbh can't remember might have been 7 but that seems too long.
And of course,no cross joints .
I used to put one cross joint in the corner somewhere just because I could 😉
Would go any longer 1.8m on a straight try keep to 1.5 on random laying. Anything over 2m long looks poor.
Baldy Slapnut 100% right, definitely no cross joints it never holds the slabs stable with the ground 👍🏻
Neat job - looks even better - ha ha
Thought it turned out well, Roger have you checked out Brockstone Landscape construction it would be great if you had them on and interpreted what the heck he's saying.
Perfect job lovely to see something beautiful being built solid well done troops ✨✝️💫
Roger, if you need a hand from a Indian to lay that sandstone, give me a shout 👨🏽🦱
Beautiful job and loved the filming and editing.
32 months in our new build house and still not attempted the garden 🙄.
We do like this stone though 😍😍🧱👍🏽
That looks totally fabulous well done to the builders... quality job 👍
Britain used to have its own sandstone paving industry shame it gone. Caithness stone etc
Seems crazy to import this stuff from India.
I often used to wonder about the working conditions over there.
The wooden crates were a work of art
Magnificent
Nice patio, not a fan of the 50mm joint between the brick and slab on the step though.
Great job 👍
Great job, excellent work. I will stick with grass its cheaper.
You’ve put a soak away between the house and patio but you built it on an existing slab! Where you expecting that water to go?
It's ok😉. Just doing my own patio. Bit of graft.👍👍
Looks great!
Watching the Sweat drip onto the slabs reminded Me WHY! I never go OUT! to Eat 😂🤣😂
Looks beautiful. I’m wondering if instead of cementing the stones in place, they could have laid them in sand.
You definitely can, but after a couple of years of rain they have a tendency to wonk.
You can't really because they are irregular sizes you need a decent grout gap and the grout will crack if layed on sand. With uniform concrete slabs sure you can and sweep in kiln dried
How do you get so much mortar on the slabs
Great work chaps
First rule of building, don’t put your hand or shovel into the mixer, second rule don’t whack the level with the mallet. Corrrr blimey
Why don't you put your hand or shovel into the mixer? Genuine question, I thought it was a fairly slow moving contraption.
@@ricos1497 There are 2 or 3 mixing blades inside it. Shovel can get caught in them and hurt you if not paying attention or it catches in your clothing. I think many of us do it though, just gotta watch how you hold the shovel.
Spot on Garry, never ever put your arm or a shovel in a mixer, very dodgy unless you’re looking to loose a hand or arm. And whacking the bead, not too clever.
If anything gets caught it doesn't stop, broken wrist/arm or worse still, limb removal.
@@ricos1497 can twist and break your arm if the shovel or your hand gets caught. That being said I’ve done it many times and as long as you pay attention you’re fine
First class work! How long did all this take? 6:14 Are those pebbles the same ones seen on train tracks?
You mean ballast, it’s larger than that
Train ballast are big buggers.
Train track knickers?
Amazing work
Great job. Skill builder on the asmr train lol
Looks great, shame they used Easy Joint though. Buy cheap buy twice.
Amazing video.
Easy joint is designed for use with a porous sub base and concrete isn’t very porous. Joints will fill up with water and will grow moss and Algae and also blow when it freezes.
Ouch
Had my patio laid like this a few years ago, and have been having the same problem with the grout. After less than a year I was having to chisel parts out to replace it, not difficult but it's a constant battle.
Looks a nice enough job but hasn't the step comprised the dpc? Not a builder by trade so not sure.
Agreed, and looks like ground levels have been raised too
If you are building steps, thats the only time you are allowed to breach dpc.
You should leave an air gap all along the back from 2 below dpc and really steps should be on an independent footing rather than built on paving
Nice job looks fantastic but doesnt that step bridge the DPC
It’s not only breaching the DPC that you have to watch out for but also rain splash. The DPC is supposed to be put in to a specific height to leave the water that will hit the rocks under the DPC and so not cause a problem with rising damp.
@@davideyres955 The fact is that nowadays we have wheel chair access thesholds as part of the Building Regs so the 150mm is waived in those areas. It is best to have a porch or canopy to stop the splash but on a PVCu door it is not such a problem.
There are thin 50mm drainage grill strips available like miniature acco to put between the wall and the slab in exposed weather areas but it's a bit ott in my opinion in normal conditions.
Pretty rugged mate
Got to love a deck built with such high standards🤣🤣
All that work to add a decent solid sub base...then you use a porous jointing compound?
All natural stone is porous. It isn't an issue.
Is there are good lasting grout for this??
Gloves, knee pads and steel toe caps ! you're asking for trouble 😉once you've had cement burns you'll always use ppe.
Hi mate, are they porcalin ?
Sooooo, the answer to the video title is: Pay someone to do it.
And if you want a decent job expect to pay for it.
Perfection doesn't come cheap.
Lovely, now how do I get rid of black spot??
Jeyes Fluid all day long
15% sodium hypochlorite from ebay. Just household bleach but much stronger
Nice bit of Husband and Split 4zz action right there :)
What tool was the layout done with?
I am an experienced builder. Can I work with you?
What were you putting on the back of the slab with a roller?
There’s an answer further down in the comments.
Did yoy have to seal before laying
Cross joint
I hope that's not the decking you were treating with preservative not so long ago 😉
HSE would love to find you guys silica dust no extraction or water suppression 🤷♂️
get over yourself.
He sprays the air to keep the dust down. I've never in 20 years seen HSE on domestic jobs like this although that's no reason to cut corners.
Is it sbr they are rolling on to the back of the slabs
It should be. Some people use PVA but SBR is way better
@@SkillBuilder Is it not supposed to be mixed with cement to make a slurry, or have i been wasting my time with that?
Depending on the porosity of the slab it should be a mix of SBR and cement. Stone like Brazilian slate definitely needs it otherwise the slabs won't bond.
@@Xaltae Putting it on wet like that just before you lay it means it will mix with the mortar and you have your slurry.
@@SkillBuilder never heard of that one before 😅 sbr always mixed with Cement beforehand then rolled/ brushed on . Or even better buy the proper slurry mix in bags and knock it up with water 👍🏻
Great work... Not sure the stone colours work for the UK though
What, grey? Mainly cloudy isn't it???
Nice to see a female on site. Can we have more of them?
If there are females on site we will film them but we won't bus them in to satisfy a diversity quota. We are not the RAF.
@@SkillBuilder Or the BBC . . .
That poor level getting whacked with the hammer!
There should be a law against it
you have your good and your whackers. And your waxed and polished in a box for the best.
@@UberAlphaSirus is a man really a man if he has no unlevel levels?
A definite no no when I was at college a long time ago but now bricklayers levels are built to take a bit of gentle tapping.
Never seen anyone lay paving on a screed
Maybe get out more
This is not a "how to" video at all, it is just watch how others do things without any explanations
Monkey see, mokey do and it works in any language
And all of a sudden we are back in 2005 !!!!!!😂
What???
Random Indian sandstone, !!!!!!
It like wood chip wallpaper it’s had its day a long long time ago
Random Indian sandstone, !!!!!!
It like wood chip wallpaper it’s had its day a long long time ago
The application suits the property. Not everyone wants the tiled look. Although it has its merits and probably easier to lay.
The riven surface of Indian sandstone can be a pain to get right. Because its a natural product you get high points where you don't want them but you can chip them down before the jointing stage because the colour goes right through.
Alot of people here haven't got a clue what they're looking at 😳
Would have been much better with Roger's commentary! What happened.. ; )
This wasn't a job that I attended so I thought it best to leave the pictures to do the talking. Judging by the number of unsubscribes on my last video there are lots of people out there who think I should keep quiet permanently. 😃
@@SkillBuilder Fair enough Roger, don't worry about the fickle types, your channel is great for me, a working handyman as a career change/hustle thing.. : )
@@westonsunset Thanks Mark. I am not worried because I go out of my way to provoke so I am fair game. I just think a video that doesn't involve me in any way is kind of liberating.
Always a Doris about to put 'er 5p's worth in.🤣🤣🤣
@@SkillBuilder 🤣 keep the commentarys coming,Roger
Nice patio, shame it was ruined by using Easy joint. No 'professional' should be using that rubbish imo, it's a permeable product, much better off having a non permeable joint & it just doesn't last.
really, cutting on dry grass with an agle grinder is not a great idea?
in england. piss off
That’s what the hosepipes for
Should have a guy with a bucket catching the sparks innit
🙄🙄🤐
It’s actually called ethnic minority stone, get with the times sonny Jim bob’s your uncle
decking around a brick bungalow ? slippery and dangerous
Please NEVER put your hand inside a mixing drum when running....never any need to go inside as you can poor anything in at the front as it is leant backwards...
Not a step by step guide. Nice to watch skilled people working but no good if you're looking for advice.
So 5 minute job then.