The system they had in playgrounds 2 was a perfect mix. You could pay extra to unlock all the characters but you still had to grind them to get better stats
If pay to win is balanced then its fine. But if its like fifa where even when buying tons of packs ur not gonna get many good players its really unfair for people that dont want to pay loads as they cant get the best players without playing a ton of the game at the same time as getting really lucky with the players they do get. Pay to win shouldnt give a huge advantage to people that dont pay. In fact its like that with a lot of sports games, alot of MMO games. It just forces players to need to pay to get the best stuff. The best things in games should be unlockables. You play a ton, do alot of hard challenges, you get rewarded with the best stuff. It shouldnt be like, you do all of that but if u spend $100 you can get better things than if u put all ur time in the game
I was feeling that uniform from the new pack..Also feeling the current drip as well. Helmets look fire to me tho. It's good to look diff from the other players
I feel as if they should make you player the same overall as you if your doing league play because I've beaten 65 and up but it's a task to do that and I also feel that if you do beat higher overall teams the rewards and xp should be more
I prefer grinding just to get the experience and learn gameplay, but I would rather it not be as hard to earn, especially when you already bought the game.
Mav I think most people don’t mind pay to win. The problem is the companies that indirectly endorse pay to win by making the grind much much harder. Mav just imagine playing 2K right now. Your MyCareer specifically. How much harder would it have been if you started out with the standard amount of VC. I tell you what; your win/loss record would look even worse than it already is. I mean let’s be real. If you only play MyCareer and get your VC the old fashion way. You probably won’t see an 90 overall until around season 3. And that’s while playing all 82 games + playoffs.
yeah imav this game is super grindy but im glad ur having fun with it i hope u grind ur team up to a decent OVR , my teams been 90 OVR since like day 3 of launch also try using LT or strafe button to get ur guys to animate , using strafe like squares ur guy up looking at the ball , and try holding the intercept button instead of tappin it or spammin it
@@iMAVERIQ just mindlessly grinded tour which is worth it after tour 7 cause you get the purple packs and like ur doing if u win league matches against ppl who are higher Division then you , for me i got a nice chunk of XP for it, Also got really lucky with most my pulls being legends and epic guys
Nahhh I don't like the pay to win thing..I'm an old school gamer..I like to grind..even when I don't really be having time...but until they patch it...you gotta spam Y to intercept when you usering
When the game is skill based its okay to pay to win cause if you can't play the game and you put on money into to be a contender you can be trash at the game and still lose
for instance i don’t like when its pay and get cards that you’d only be able to get if you paid for it . what if in this games you could only get certain 99 overall cards if you spent money on it that’s wack. some call of duties ruined pay to play and 2k pay to play is a different type of bad like 60 overall myplayer not playable on anything other than rookie
I think in a competitive mode there should be very very little P2W. The best P2W for a game like this where you grind for loot boxes that are RNG drops is to pay for double or triple XP gain. If the argument is that P2W allows for people with less time to play to catch up then instead of enabling them to buy the boxes without any time put in, allow them to buy boosts to their XP so that the limited time they do have to play actually pays off in more level up loot boxes. That way the people who pay still have to grind just it s way less time-consuming. Also means that someone who has time to play AND has the money to P2W (kinda like you lol) can't run out of control with all the best stuff. You would only be able to get 3-5 more boxes in same time played as someone not playing instead of being able to purchase boxes without cap. That plus once the ticket system is working again, we won't have to worry as much
I honestly hate P2W 😂 because are you really that good if you’re buying the best stuff without actually grinding? And then wouldn’t it be embarrassing to buy whatever it is to boost your stats or whatever and you still get your cheeks clapped? Now you wasted money and you suck. 2k and Madden are prime examples on how P2W is bs. Like I want to get online and get matched with people in my skill level but its full of folks who bought packs or vc and my chances of winning are very slim and that takes the fun away especially when folks use that stupid “git gud” phrase lol
I don’t like P2W but I think the developers need to make games more grind friendly. It’s not the fault of the player, they just look at the egregious amount of time it takes to grind a 58 overall team/player and cough up the money. I think there should be a cap on P2W that scales weekly maybe. It’s not fair that someone can have the best available players within 24 hours of the game being out if the alternative (for non P2W) means 24 hours of play time.
This should not even be a debate, pay to win is NEVER GOOD! You want to pay for cosmetics, fine go knock yourself out. But paying for stuff that takes people hours upon hours of gaming to just hope they get is not okay. Especially in the online scene. If you want it for story games again that’s fine.
It’s only fair to grind, I think it’s completely unfair for me to put hours into something, then little Timmy steals his moms credit card to have a team +20 overall before even attempting the grind. I have a little more respect for people who grind it out and have nice set ups for whatever game
But I think that’s where your skills comes in. Let’s your grinding show in your skill. Someone could have more extra time just like someone has extra money. That wouldn’t be fair to the people with less time.
Ngl I wasn’t a fan of pay to win until I got older and got more money. The idea of grinding is less and less appealing as I age and have more responsibilities
This game is actually good. It’s fun to play. You can’t expect much from a arcade football game but it’s actually fun and they have cross Jen gameplay. You don’t have to buy cards with actual money you could just grind for the endgame currency and buy them gain is pretty lit, to be honest.
You really love this game... I like it too, but it doesn't give me a stiffy, every time I do something right. Just make love to the game. I hope for your sake, you don't have a digital console. That way you can put that stiffy to use
The system they had in playgrounds 2 was a perfect mix. You could pay extra to unlock all the characters but you still had to grind them to get better stats
If pay to win is balanced then its fine. But if its like fifa where even when buying tons of packs ur not gonna get many good players its really unfair for people that dont want to pay loads as they cant get the best players without playing a ton of the game at the same time as getting really lucky with the players they do get. Pay to win shouldnt give a huge advantage to people that dont pay. In fact its like that with a lot of sports games, alot of MMO games. It just forces players to need to pay to get the best stuff. The best things in games should be unlockables. You play a ton, do alot of hard challenges, you get rewarded with the best stuff. It shouldnt be like, you do all of that but if u spend $100 you can get better things than if u put all ur time in the game
You speaking facts ngl
I feel that! Sometimes they can demand you pay too much!
Nah p2w is always trash.
P2w is absolutely trash it's just straight cheat bc if you have to money you can cheat but in all honesty there is no skill in p2w
That line you said about much rather wanting to buy the player cards had me dying in laughter cause I know exactly what you mean.
Dion just ruined Graham’s weekend, Graham’s just trying to enjoy himself and Dion’s dotting him up.
Welcome to real world Graham! 😂
''my team is too elite, i put in the wrk give up now!!!! lolol
Yah show us the customization Mav 🔥
Absolutely champ can you please show how you did your playbook in deck champ
I was feeling that uniform from the new pack..Also feeling the current drip as well. Helmets look fire to me tho. It's good to look diff from the other players
I feel as if they should make you player the same overall as you if your doing league play because I've beaten 65 and up but it's a task to do that and I also feel that if you do beat higher overall teams the rewards and xp should be more
I prefer grinding just to get the experience and learn gameplay, but I would rather it not be as hard to earn, especially when you already bought the game.
Mav I think most people don’t mind pay to win.
The problem is the companies that indirectly endorse pay to win by making the grind much much harder. Mav just imagine playing 2K right now. Your MyCareer specifically. How much harder would it have been if you started out with the standard amount of VC. I tell you what; your win/loss record would look even worse than it already is.
I mean let’s be real. If you only play MyCareer and get your VC the old fashion way. You probably won’t see an 90 overall until around season 3. And that’s while playing all 82 games + playoffs.
I definitely feel the cash grab with 2K
yeah imav this game is super grindy but im glad ur having fun with it i hope u grind ur team up to a decent OVR , my teams been 90 OVR since like day 3 of launch also try using LT or strafe button to get ur guys to animate , using strafe like squares ur guy up looking at the ball , and try holding the intercept button instead of tappin it or spammin it
Sheeesh! How you get your OVR so high, so quick?
@@iMAVERIQ just mindlessly grinded tour which is worth it after tour 7 cause you get the purple packs and like ur doing if u win league matches against ppl who are higher Division then you , for me i got a nice chunk of XP for it, Also got really lucky with most my pulls being legends and epic guys
he is lying unless hes a kid with no job. ive played everyday for the past 7 days at least 4 hours a day and my highest overall is 69@@iMAVERIQ
I aint payin $40 then lose to dudes paying $200 a week for packs.
Love the uniform.
Nahhh I don't like the pay to win thing..I'm an old school gamer..I like to grind..even when I don't really be having time...but until they patch it...you gotta spam Y to intercept when you usering
Facts. Old school was the best gaming experiences I've ever had. Grind and get items to show off how good u are and not pay to get everything.
When the game is skill based its okay to pay to win cause if you can't play the game and you put on money into to be a contender you can be trash at the game and still lose
Right!
Thanos said it best
you get the better packs in tour 7 just got outta 6
for instance i don’t like when its pay and get cards that you’d only be able to get if you paid for it . what if in this games you could only get certain 99 overall cards if you spent money on it that’s wack. some call of duties ruined pay to play and 2k pay to play is a different type of bad like 60 overall myplayer not playable on anything other than rookie
Yeah that’s whack! I feel you.
Well come play the king
I think in a competitive mode there should be very very little P2W. The best P2W for a game like this where you grind for loot boxes that are RNG drops is to pay for double or triple XP gain. If the argument is that P2W allows for people with less time to play to catch up then instead of enabling them to buy the boxes without any time put in, allow them to buy boosts to their XP so that the limited time they do have to play actually pays off in more level up loot boxes. That way the people who pay still have to grind just it s way less time-consuming. Also means that someone who has time to play AND has the money to P2W (kinda like you lol) can't run out of control with all the best stuff. You would only be able to get 3-5 more boxes in same time played as someone not playing instead of being able to purchase boxes without cap. That plus once the ticket system is working again, we won't have to worry as much
I honestly hate P2W 😂 because are you really that good if you’re buying the best stuff without actually grinding? And then wouldn’t it be embarrassing to buy whatever it is to boost your stats or whatever and you still get your cheeks clapped? Now you wasted money and you suck. 2k and Madden are prime examples on how P2W is bs. Like I want to get online and get matched with people in my skill level but its full of folks who bought packs or vc and my chances of winning are very slim and that takes the fun away especially when folks use that stupid “git gud” phrase lol
cmon deion franchise character on madden
I don’t like P2W but I think the developers need to make games more grind friendly. It’s not the fault of the player, they just look at the egregious amount of time it takes to grind a 58 overall team/player and cough up the money. I think there should be a cap on P2W that scales weekly maybe. It’s not fair that someone can have the best available players within 24 hours of the game being out if the alternative (for non P2W) means 24 hours of play time.
Literally says 153-200 lmao
This should not even be a debate, pay to win is NEVER GOOD! You want to pay for cosmetics, fine go knock yourself out. But paying for stuff that takes people hours upon hours of gaming to just hope they get is not okay. Especially in the online scene. If you want it for story games again that’s fine.
Hope you don't run into me bout to play wildcard rn
What’s your OVR?
@@iMAVERIQ 80 OVR
It’s only fair to grind, I think it’s completely unfair for me to put hours into something, then little Timmy steals his moms credit card to have a team +20 overall before even attempting the grind. I have a little more respect for people who grind it out and have nice set ups for whatever game
But I think that’s where your skills comes in. Let’s your grinding show in your skill. Someone could have more extra time just like someone has extra money. That wouldn’t be fair to the people with less time.
Okay id take p2w in games if it means the world makes time for one piece lol it can save the world the story is that impactful
Haha!
Ngl I wasn’t a fan of pay to win until I got older and got more money. The idea of grinding is less and less appealing as I age and have more responsibilities
😂 I feel that! You be having other stuff to do!
Nah people like you ruin games it sucks. P2w is never good.
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This game is actually good. It’s fun to play. You can’t expect much from a arcade football game but it’s actually fun and they have cross Jen gameplay. You don’t have to buy cards with actual money you could just grind for the endgame currency and buy them gain is pretty lit, to be honest.
You really love this game... I like it too, but it doesn't give me a stiffy, every time I do something right. Just make love to the game. I hope for your sake, you don't have a digital console. That way you can put that stiffy to use