Fun fact: If you watch all of the videos from all of Simon’s RUclips channels on a 55” OLED screen, it’s pretty much like he’s moved in with you and never shuts up. 😁
I think Red Dwarf has the proper answer to, "did aliens make the pyramids." RIMMER: No, Lister, I mean like the pyramids. How did they move such massive pieces of stone without the aid of modern technology? LISTER: They had massive whips, Rimmer. Massive, massive whips.
A note on Goliath. In the earliest versions of the story that have been found, he was 6 1/2 feet tall. At a time when the Israelites were probably 4-5 feet tall, he'd have been huge. Only in later versions did he become 9 1/2 feet tall. And a sling can easily kill a person with a head shot. In the hands of someone who knows what they're doing, they're lethal.
Imagane being like Tom Cruise height on an ancient battle field and you defeat Tyson Fury. Yea you and all your freinds would say he was a giant because , from your perspective, he is a giant
Dude, you could ABSOLUTELY kill someone with a sling. Not a wristrocket, while fun and dangerous, a true sling with the proper ammo could be devastating to an opponent that just stood there. I think someone back then carrying a sling, likely knew how to use it, and use it well.
I'm sure I've read somewhere they were used to take down whatever the equivalent of bison were a few thousand years ago when hunting. Something to do with cave art or some such origin but it definitely mentioned slingshot, hunting, death - of the prey, and eating.
I worked with a guy who was 7ft 3 inches tall. I'm 6ft even. He still made me feel small. Unfortunately, he fell ill with classic problems for tall people like him. Ironically, I'm from Fort Dodge Iowa. That's where the gypsum that the Cardiff Giant came from.
I'd love to see y'all make a video about the "Paul is dead" joke/urban legend/whatever (about how the Beatles' bassist secretly died and was replaced with a lookalike). I was fascinated with it when I was young and I think Simon and the team would have a lot of fun exploring it. Big fan of the show, keep up the great work!
I did suggest this but an almost pre-pubescent Whistle Boi did a short version eons ago on a different channel. He has green lit a deeper dive but I’m worried Macca is imminently going to pop his clogs so the whole thing would become pointless 😆
@@katywatson4940 I was just about to comment "I'm pretty sure he touched on this briefly on another channel, a couple years back." I'd definitely like to see some more exploration around the topic!
I mean when the average height of a population is 5 foot, I imagine seeing a bunch of people with an average height of 6-7 foot plus they'd 100% look like Giants.
I was gonna say I'm 6'2" and I get jokes all the time about my height by people under my height. After 6 feet tall alot of people seem taller then they are by people of average or less height.
Amerigo Vespucci documented an encounter with a tribe that had exceptionally tall members and that the chief of one of the tribes along with his son were the tallest men he'd ever encountered. The estimated height was just over 8'
If a man is around 5ft tall and says they're a quarter of my height taller than me... that still puts them close to 7ft. Hell, Shaq, Yau Ming and a lot of other people in the NBA are almost 7ft tall. Don't know why people's tales of tall people are written off as myth.
I have a coworker who is definitely close to 7 feet tall, his wife is also taller than myself at 6 feet. From what I've learned they are from at region in Africa where persistence hunting (chasing animals until they pass out) was still used until modern times
there are some tribes in africa that have really tall people. i think it might be because those tribes have a lot of cattle and drink a lot of milk. its probably the same reason why i am the average male height here at 6.1 foot.
@@theflyingdutchguy9870 part genetic part diet. A lot of east asians are actually genetically tall. But they have poor economies and culturaly eat a lot of rice. So they dont end up growing tall that often.
According to Arabic legend, Batawil the son of Tyras and grandson of Japheth had a daughter named Qarnabil who married Cush the son of Ham. Bir Tawil is an area of land along the border between Egypt and Sudan and is named for Batawil. The Batwa also known as the Twa people living in Rwanda, Burundi, Uganda and Congo descend from Japheth and Ham and retain the name of their ancestor in their tribal name. Batá is a Muslim name for boys but is of Turkish origin. Togarmah son of Gomer and Go-yong "TǔTán" are the ancestors of the Turkish people. Gomer the son of Japheth and grandson of Noah. Tawil is Arabic and means "tall" or "long". Depending on source average height of the Batwa people is four feet or 5 feet but many of the close cousins of the Twa people are actually tall. Anak King of the Anakim (Anakites) son of King Arba were known as Amorite kings. The ancient Amorites descend from Emer the son of Canaan and grandson of Ham. The word "Anak" in Arabic means "long neck" and refers to the long jewelry and metal rings many of them wore around their necks. The long-necked Kayan people are a sub-group of Red Karen people from Myanmar’s Kayah/Karenni region. Japheth and Ham are the ancestors of the Asian people. The Anakites were one of the 36 giant tribes mentioned in the bible. The Riphatheans probably mixed with Shem and Hams descendants and became known as the "Rephaites" or "Repha'im". Japheth through his son Tiras was the ancestor of the Tyrrhenians also later known as the Thracians named for Ares "Thrax" and his son King Thrax. The Thracians were very tall and had red hair and red beards. Japheth ruled over the mountain range of Râfâ. In the Hebrew Bible, it mentions the "Rephaites" or "Repha'im" the ancient race of giants who live in Israel. Legend claims Jaffa was built by Japheth, son of Noah. Jaffa is claimed to be the oldest port in the world. The Rephaim can be found in various places throughout the Levant, including Canaan, Philistia, Judah, Ammon, Moab, Bashan, Syria, and Phoenicia. The legend of Si-Te-Cah: The Red-haired" giants of early America. Adataneses also known as "Hadath the Red" and the wife of Japheth. The Duhares were a tribe of people living in America with gray eyes, tanned skin, and red to brown hair, as well as being unusually tall. Their leader was King Datha who was said to be very tall and tattooed. When the ancestors of the native Americans first arrived, they discovered there were giant red-haired people already living in the Americas. The name of King Datha preserves the name of their ancestor Adataneses the wife of Japheth based on my research. Tuyscon son of Noah and King of Almaign (Germany) and also founder of Tuscany, Italy. Po Valley is located in Northern Italy and was an ancient agricultural paradise and the Greek name for Japheth was Poseidon. Sicily was colonized by the ancient Phoenicians. The city of Sidon was built by ancient Sidonians who descend from Sidoa son of Canaan and grandson of Ham and the ancient Tyrrhenians who descend from Tyrrhenus "Tyras" the son of Japheth. There is a village called Leitir Fura. Japheth is the ancestor of the people of Scotland and Ireland, and this village was named for their ancestor Furra "Fura" the wife of Japheth. Leitir Fura roughly translates into "a plane or landing of oaks" with Fura supposedly meaning oak. The origin of the name Catalpa is the Greek word Kutuhlpa which translates as a tree with wings or winged head tree. Catalpa is a genus of flowering plants. The Catalpa is a spelling variation of Cataphua the name of the wife of Ham son of Noah. The native American tribal name Catawba is a spelling variation of Catalpa. Nemed "Nimeth" ancestor of the Nemedians and his other names are Nemhedh and Nemedh, King of Agnoman the direct descendant of Magog the son of Japheth. The creators of NimedHealth appears to have named it after Nemed the ancestor of the Fir Bolg, Formorians and the Tuatha Dé Danann. Fura Da Nono also called Fura De Nunu according to the tradition of the Fulani tribe of Nigeria Fura means "millet" and Nono means "milk". Oak Island in Nova Scotia means "New Scotland". The Scottish people descend from Magog and Gomer the sons of Japheth and are the ancestors of the Scythians. The Celtic people descend from Kimmérioi ancestor of the Cimmerians of Crimea son of Taari "Tauri" (Taurians), grandson of Tubal and great grandson of Japheth. The Duhares tribe their leader was King Datha also known as "Greenwood" which also happens to be the name of a village located in the western part of Kings County in Nova Scotia's Annapolis Valley. The other spelling variations of his name are Data and Dathaw. The location named after him is Dataw Island in Beaufort County, South Carolina. Oak island is located in Nova Scotia, Canada. Its more then likely that descendants of Japheth founded Oak Island. Javan was the son of Japheth and ancestor of the ancient Greeks. King Minos asked Poseidon to show him a divine sign that proves his right to rule over Crete and Poseidon sent him a white bull as a gift. The White Bull is a symbol of power and the Bianca Modenese or Modenese is a breed of cattle that has a white coat and also from the Po Valley, in the Emilia Romagna and Lombardy regions of northern Italy. The name of King Minos is a spelling variation of the nicknames of Mizraim "Menes" and "Min" the son of Ham. Caphtorim "Caphtor" ancestor of the Caphtorites and the son of Mizraim. The Caphtorites were one of the 36 tribes of giants mentioned in the bible. According to experts Caphtorim "Caphtor" has been identified with the island of Crete in the Mediterranean Sea. The island of Crete is known for being an excellent location to grow pomegranates. The name "Caphtor" means "Pomegranate". Ancient Iran and Persia is the second-largest producer and largest exporter of pomegranates in the world. The Iranian Medes descend from Madai the son of Japheth. The ancient Persians were founded by Shem known to the Greeks as Zeus. The ancient name of the Persians was Parsuash also known as "ParZeus". Perseus son of Zeus (Shem) was the founder of Mycenae and the Mycenaeans ruled over all the area from Crete to the Cycladic islands. Perseus married Andromeda which can be spelled Andromedai, Andromedia and Andromedes. Persephone the daughter of Shem (Zeus) married Hades (Ham) and one her symbols is the pomegranate. Persephone's name is connected to the Persians and Phoenicians. The Persians settled in the territory of Persis (also Parsa, modern-day Fars). She was deified as Proserpina or Proserpine an ancient goddess of Rome. The ancient Romans descend form Romim the son of Kittim and grandson of Javan. Kittim had another son named Kyprus "Chipris" and the island of Cyprus derives its name from him. Critheïs "Chretis" the son of Kittim and the island of Crete is named for him.
I'm a massage therapist who does medical massage and have worked on people above 6' 11" and it's actually heart breaking how much pain they are in and what their tissue is going through. It's bad enough that their own system can't always handle that, but that absolutely NOTHING is built to their size makes it so much worse. One client was actually crying in pain as I worked on them because of a 2 hour flight in coach.
@@Lunch_Meat definitely right. Being 6'6" isn't always all that it's cracked up to be. Especially trying to get clothes that fit, without having to order it.
Sometimes, I listen to Simon say "People don't really believe this do they?" about the Bible and all I can think is "Yes, I'm sorry, but yes." I grew up Southern Baptist and eventually out of it, but the largest evangelical denomination in America has a ton of people who believe that the Bible is the literal word of God. Sigh.....
Those professional crak pots Ken ham and Kent hovand are responsible for a lot of this. The case of Ken ham is really telling. He got laughed clear out of Australia so he came to the US where there were actually enough people who were either brainwashed or just straight up stupid enough to believe his nonsense to build a mega church. It was a national disgrace the day the creation museum opened. Kent Hovand's fake museum in Alabama is even more of a joke. Now a lot of people assume everyone in Alabama is an ignorant hick. Alabama has the United Launch Alliance rocket factory and NASAs Martial spaceflight center. There's plenty of smart people in Alabama and Kentucky but you hardly ever hear about them. Ken ham and Kent hovand have ruined the reputations of those two states.
In my tiny town of 450 people we had 1 store and 9 churches. Once we had 2 stores but one burned down.. the lot was turned into a rv park. Though the population was small the actual area was huge. So the churches are spread out.
May I humbly invite you to check out the Fellowship Covenant Podcast and hear the good news of our Lord and Savior Gormu (He might not like your shirt, though)
At a time when the average height of women was 5'2" & men was 5'6" anyone over 6ft tall would seem huge. Add into that exaggerating how fierce/big/savage your enemies were made vanquishing them all the more heroic in retelling.
Yeah people got a lot taller. Even recently. Im 6'4, born in 2000, and when I was in HS most of my classmates were close to my height, with one being bigger ( tho he was taking HGH and test since 16). But people like 4 yeara older seemed in general shorter
Here's a funny thing. I have a master's in biological anthropology and we have scientific articles about giants. There were several sets of human skeletal remains found in North America, several in Ohio near Zanesville that measured around 9 to 10 feet tall. My father's childhood friend is the historian that runs and maintains the Zanesville Historical Society where they have verified papers signed by the Smithsonian Institution where they transferred these giant remains to the Smithsonian. And yes, the papers label how big the remains were. The man in charge of the Smithsonian at the time (Charles Walcott I think) mysteriously misplaced these remains. Which sounds convenient but guess what else that same man did...falsified and destroyed any Smithsonian records that suggested that humanity originated in Africa. Not saying giants were real, but the "expert" in charge of collecting and preserving archaeological artifacts and remains for the Smithsonian bought up every set he could find and then they systematically vanished only for the same man several decades later to be exposed for destroying human remains and the remains of our ancestors to fit his Eurocentric viewpoint.
Pinson Mounds in Tennessee was said to contain 8 foot tall skeletons with red hair. Stories abound around Rockwall Texas of giants and structures they built.
Simon Should start a "Bible reaction channel"/"Decoding the Bible" where he reads and reacts to Bible stories... pretty simple concept but could be HILARIOUS
I havn't seen this pointed out yet, but the oldest versions of I Samuel (Dead Sea Scrolls) and the Septuagent put Goliath at *four* cubits and a span -- in other words, about 6' 9" or 2.1m. That's still a giant by ancient standards, but no where near impossible.
Is that all?! I thought he was...like, GIAAANT! my dad's 6ft8, as are his cousins, both marginally taller. I've never once considered any of them giant, just tall!
I know two people who are 6'8" and one person who is 6'9." Two of those are brothers. The other has equally tall brothers, but with sisters who are closer to 6'4." Not only possible, but definitely a thing.
@@teaspoonsofpeanutbutter6425 when the average height of the time is around 5ft 3in for men, 6ft 8in would be giant by comparison. Remember that George Washington was considering a literal towering figure of his day at 6ft 2in when the average height was 5ft 5in. Height throughout history and who was considered “giant” is somewhat relative.
Fact Boi once again displays how well he is in touch with popular culture. 😅 I'd love to see a RUclips channel where Simon just reads fairy tales and berates them cynically. 😊
The valiant little tailor was my favourite story as a kid. A tailor killed seven flies with one whip of a towel and he is so proud of himself he makes a belt that says "seven in one blow" which leads to a series of villagers misinterpreting what he has killed seven of in one blow. And he gains a lot of respect, then he meets a giant who thinks it means he killed seven men in one blow and puts the tailor through a series of tests of strength. I don't remember them all but one example is the giant squeezes a rock until water comes out and the tailor pretends to pick up a rock from the ground, but actually retrieves a lump of cheese from his pocket and, squeezes it until whey comes out. He tricks the giant several times and then I don't remember how, but through one of his tricks he kills the giant and the village hail him as a giant slayer and a hero. The word valiant in the title is actually sarcastic 😌
Or is it he still faced the giant yeah it’s the same story I heard I think he as well throws a bird as if was a rock if I’m not wrong so like he throws it farther than the giant thrown his rock
The average height at the time of David and Goliath was 5ft, meaning that a cubit was much smaller than the modern cubit. Goliath gets a fair bit shorter when you adjust for the smaller cubit. Also, the dead sea scrolls give his height as 4 cubits and a span, not 6 cubits and a span, which is MUCH shorter
@ryano972 then you have a poor understanding of a cubit. Also, the point that the dead sea scrolls put him at 4 cubits is misleading. That was written during Roman times when a cubit was ~120cm.
I'm sure someone's mentioned this before, but another reading of "fallen ones" is in the sense of "fallen down in death" so its more like "the slain ones". Apocrypha on these references tie the Nephilim to part-divine figures in Mesopotamia or the Mediterranean, like Gilgamesh and Heracles
The "valiant little tailor" (Das tapfere Schneiderlein) is a fairy tale collected by the Grimm brothers. This is my very abridged version. A poor tailor who swashes 7 flies with a slice of bread and jelly and feels very valiant, too valiant for his town. He then makes himself a sash and embroiders it with "seven with one strike" (Sieben auf einen Streich) and decides to wander the realms. After fooling a giant to believe he was stronger than the giant he finally gets into a kingdom, where the king is desperate for a hero to slay two giants that attack his people. Mistaking the tailor for a knight or prince, the king orders the tailor to slay the giants and offers him the hand of his daughter and half of the kingdom as dowry. So the tailor sets out to find the giants. With a little ingenuity, he brings the giants to fight each other until both are dead. The king regrets his promise and demands more quests to be undertaken which the smart tailor manages to do successfully. The tailor marries the princess and becomes king himself. Unfortunately, the tailor speaks in his sleep and the princess deduces his true identity. She tries to rid herself of him but fails because all knights are too afraid of him. So she has to stay married to him. The tale of a smart man who fools everyone (including himself) to think of him as strong and valiant is one of the more famous by the Grimm brothers, at least in the German-speaking parts of Europe with more at least 8 movies, a tv-series and an anime made of the story.
Well Simon, I've a friend who did all the honors sciences in school and was raised...oh some kind of Protestant. I forget. Atheist now. I asked her about that, literally believing the bible, including Adam & Eve at church and science/evolution at school. She gave me a simple answer. "Cognitive dissonance."
I'd like to weigh in on this. I just watched a Simon vid wherein he mentioned that DNA can't last 65,000,000 years, so Dinosaurs will not be cloned. Well, yeah, correct. But dino DNA exists. It's easy to search and find the references. It's DNA fragments only, but it is way too intact to be 65,000,000 years old. So, either many kinds of dinos were around as little as thousands of years ago, or there is something really dubious about Deep Time. Deep time is accepted, WIDELY. Therefore it is true, and if you doubt it, you're stupid. That's the most powerful evidence in favor of deep time. Just look at the only evidence is presented right before calling a nay-sayer stupid: "But that's what I've been taught by large numbers of people. If you don't believe what I was taught by large numbers of people, then you are stupid." Some weaker evidence for deep time are: 1. Radiometric dating of rocks. Radiometric dating has the huge problem that rocks absorb water, along with random minerals in the water. An exception is diamond, which is water tight. Every single diamond has bits of coal inside, and every bit of coal has carbon-14. There should be no carbon-14 at all in any diamond because diamonds are all too old. In fact, carbon-14 dating of the coal in diamonds always shows around 6,200 years of age. Further, laboratories have been tricked into dating volcanic rock newly emerged from Mt. St. Helens(they had to be tricked because they refused to do the work), and the labs reported ages of 30,000 to 500,000 for those samples. In other words the labs' method doesn't work. 2. The geologic column displays millions of years of sedimentation. Only the geological column doesn't exist, except in drawings. Rather, layers across the world are considered to be chronologically connected and a cartoon is drawn to illustrate continuity that is not actually found on site. Those cartoons are then published in high school text books. Also, the layers of sedimentation are aged by means of identifying the fossils found therein. But the fossils are aged by identifying the age of the sediment in which they are found. That of course is circular reasoning. There's a lot more to this question than one gets from the Discovery Channel. Simon could do a fascinating upload on this subject, but he never will because that would be in violation of his deep ideological commitment to not being called stupid. It would be bad for his business, too.
I mostly agree with CCornelius. While science is good for describing and categorizing the observable universe, it's rubbish for finding meaning or purpose in life, and answering bigger questions than daily survival.
@@CenturianCornelious Calling people stupid for not believing what most people believe is unhelpful. That being said... there are some issues in your points. As you suggested, I looked up the 'dinosaur DNA' references. Turns out it is always described only as 'possible' dino dna, even by the researchers who found it themselves: there's a lot of doubt about whether it actually is DNA, and if it, whether its from dinosaurs or bacteria. It's not really good evidence. Next, rocks absorbing water might affect results on radiometric tests, but that is why most tests include a margin of error, and why scientists frequently compare results of different tests to see if they match up. Furthermore every source i can find says that diamonds aren't formed from coal, or at least it is very unlikely, due to diamonds usually forming much deeper in the earth than coal. I can't find any source that suggests that diamonds contain coal at all, so I'm a bit sceptical that you can even retrieve coal from a diamond to be dated. Even if this was the case though, and you got a result of 6, 200 years, it is far more likely that it is just this one isolated test that is wrong, rather than that every other test that shows them millions of years old is incorrect. A mistake could be due to background radiation being not factored in - there is always a certain amount present when carbon testing, and if not factored in, you can easily end up with a false reading. Finally, the 'circular reasoning' point you've made. Scientists can date both layers and the fossils in them by finding nearby rocks through radiometric dating, as you've mentioned yourself. Given enough evidence that a certain creature only lived at certain times, if you find that creature at a different site, you can date the layer at the new site. This isn't circular reasoning - you age the layer by the fossil, but the fossil is aged by radiometrically dating the rocks found around it at other sites.
@@gullyfeather4330 "Unhelpful" is a very generous adjective in this case. A more apt term might be mob rule. But yes, if one Googles dino DNA, one gets results saying "possible, possible, possible...." The problem with that is, the same method is used to examine dino samples as other, less controversial samples. It's called the DAPI test. If it's a dog that died 3000 years ago the results are accepted without issue. The difference with dino DNA is that some people are uncomfortable with the implications of finding dino DNA. Ideology is tainting the interpretation of data. For example, when Mary Schweitzer reported finding B Rex blood vessels and blood cells, she spoke with a peer on the subject. He did not believe her findings. She asked what evidence could convince him, and he answered, "Nothing." Jack Horner is a colleague of Schweitzer. When offered a chance to test Schweitzer's samples for DNA he refused. He said it could not contain DNA, therefore he would not accept a free test. He claimed the samples were chemically nothing but "concrete," even though he had seen the blood vessels being flexed and stretched under a microscope. ruclips.net/video/MoVcj0DRglQ/видео.html&ab_channel=MaxBauer (I can't stand Bob Enyart. I've unfortunately had some interaction with him. He is an asshole. Nonetheless, he's right about this.) All radiometric rock testing has a margin of error, not some. And it's huge. Radiometric testing labs require that samples submitted arrive with a presumed age. Then they test and re-test the sample until a figure in the presumed ballpark is achieved. They may test a sample 50 times until they get the expected result. This is of course illegitimate, so some researchers have tested the testers by submitting multiple rocks from the same source and presenting false presumptions of age. The different rocks came back with different ages. Having been a jeweler, I've have many times seen uncrystallized carbon in diamonds. Every diamond has them initially, but expensive diamonds have been cut to exclude them. Recent theories about the formation of diamonds and whether the uncrystallized carbon within them is "coal" make no difference. Look at this: www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0168583X07002443 It is an analysis of diamonds extracted from geologic layers believed to be "greatly in excess of 100 Ma" (100 million years) containing carbon indisputably aged at as little as 110 μA (110 years). Also, ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2003AGUFM.V32C1045B/abstract As to the circular reasoning thing, well, no offense, but you're just wrong: “Contrary to what most scientists write, the fossil record does not support the Darwinian theory of evolution because it is this theory (there are several) which we use to interpret the fossil record. By doing so, we are guilty of circular reasoning if we then say the fossil record supports this theory.” -- West, Dr. Ronald (Kansas State Univ.) “Paleontology and Uniformitarianism” Compass 45:216, May 1968 “Structure, metamorphism, sedimentary reworking and other complications have to be considered. Radiometric dating would not have been feasible if the geologic column had not been erected first. The axiom that no process can measure itself means that there is no absolute time, but this relic of the traditional mechanics persists in the common distinction between ‘relative’ and ‘absolute’ age.” -- D’Rourke, J.E. “Pragmatism vs. Materialism in Stratigraphy”, American Journal of Science 276:54, Jan. 1976.
My favorite giant is Paul Bunyan. They have cool statues in towns/parks/campgrounds along the redwood coast of California. I remember one of them had an operator that made it talk. Cool when I was a kid.
A cubit is around 18 inches. It makes Goliath about 9 feet tall. Robert Wadlow in the Guinness Book of records is listed as 8 feet 11 inches. Goliath probably had gigantism.
I don't buy that. If the story is more or less true, which I suspect it is, I can't imagine the Philistines using someone enfeebled by gigantism or some similar affliction as a champion. My guess is that he was a big, bad guy whose height has been exaggerated. Another possibility that comes to mind (a reach, I'll admit) is that the Philistines presented him as their champion but brought out the real one if someone from the opposing army still chose to engage in the duel. I like Gladwell, but c'mon.
For the sake of comparing a real life giant to Goliath… Andre the giant who was 7 foot four and a professional wrestler of some renowned. Died in his 40s from a heart attack but he was a very well documented alcoholic so it’s hard to say if he died as a result of being an alcoholic or being a giant… But he was extremely athletic despite his size. So yes Goliath could’ve been like him.
And the only reason Andre drank a lot was because of all the pain he was in. But yeah, the gigantism he had been suffering from did contribute to his death.
@@bobknobbe3561I used Andre the giant because he was in a combat sport… So basically he would’ve had the same kind of lifestyle as Goliath more or less
@@robertcarter9535 i think theres 3 types of 7 foot. there people like andre the giant or the irish giant who suffered from gigantism, people like shaq or yao ming who became 7 foot without gigantism, and then those skeletons of 7 footers which are being found which have shoulders as wide as ronnie coleman at his peak (ronnie coleman had 25 inch shoulders) have skulls which are near twice the size of normal persons skull like that 36 inch circumference skull which smithsonian found in their 1872 report which was one some other large sized skulls they found which was 36 inches circumference, compared to a normal persons skull which is 22 inches circumference, and abundantly have perfect double rows of teeth which while some humans have it is super rare and is not in abundance in normal humans
Lol, simon is that one friend that gets a contact high just smelling or seeing some weed, and is all over the place trying to explain the most basic things everyone does. Love it!
I heard an interesting story about a theory about Goliath's height from TED. In summary of the theory, Goliath had Giantism due to a number of reasons. Goliath likely had poor vision due to him miscounting the number of sticks David was holding, and he (a great warrior) had to be led to the valley by someone else, and it is clear that he moved slow, which are common things for people with Giantism. Goliath could have very well been in the 7-9ft range. He may have had a more extreme case of Giantism where he could have grown to that height. ruclips.net/video/ziGD7vQOwl8/видео.html.
@@edwarddore7617maybe but gigantism is a real condition affecting the pituitary gland. I have a friend who's father has it, they are much taller and stronger than the average person.
Really big dudes are already really big in reality. It's entirely possible there were earlier examples of people like Andre the Giant who would scare the everloving F out of anyone on the battlefield by just being there. Have you seen pictures of him holding a beer can? It looks like a tiny toy in his massive hands. He'd empty it with a sip and go through 24 just to start the evening. Epic. He was able to lift already bug guys over his head and toss them around like sacks of potatoes. Someone seeing him might well say "he was ten feet tall," because that's what he seems like.
@@nicholaslewis8594 psychological warfare babey, just use him as your commander that shouts "ATTACK!!!" really loudly from on top of a gigantic fucking horse and then stays in place as all the actual fighting troops run forwards to attack the enemy. Can he actually do much? No. Is the enemy fucking terrified that this gigantic person that makes a gigantic horse look like a tiny pony is leading the army? Hell yeah.
Archers. Nothing is too scary if you can kill it with 6 or more arrows from far enough away. It was battle! I've seen a person die and it can easily make something inside a person die along with it. It is freaking scary. But afterwards that fear dies as well. So I do not believe that seeing a 7' or taller person would be so terrifying that an army would not feel the confidence to kill them, and with archers it would have been no problem at all. Now if a person were wearing armor and they stood over 12', that would probably change things. But I just don't believe it ever happened. Stories are fun but there is no current proof that we can look at with out eyes and hands to study
Brilliant, so glad I discovered Simon on YT, he makes me roll and his skeptisim aligns precisely with my own, it's a breath of fresh air. The podcast is so good on long boring car journies too. Thanks!
He left out the biggest part. Oxygen levels were significantly higher during the age of the dinosaurs and everything WAS actually larger. This myth is clearly based on a misinterpretation of fossil record.
Greek mythology contains Giants, as well as Titans. One of the Giants, Engeladus is buried under Mt Aetna of Sicily. Any time he gets restless, the volcano is stirred.
Imagine someone like an NBA player visiting some African pygmies, he would literally be a real mythical giant to them, they would make stories about him and he would turn into a legend, probably years later it would be exaggerated that he was as tall as a tree etc
I've come to respect the Sling, though I prefer the Staff Sling, myself... If you've ever even practiced to a degree to get any useful skill out of it, I can promise you David didn't have to kill Goliath by other means unless that was ONE HELL of a helmet he was wearing. A wicked little bit of strap and a leather pouch can add a HUGE mechanical advantage to the speed of a thrown rock. You can build one relatively cheaply, even if you prefer to use cloth rather than leather (though it won't last as long if you do)... so don't just take my word for it. Fair warning, there's quite a bit of work ahead of you getting any useful skill out of it. They're difficult (or I'm inept)... SO there has to be pay-off to bothering not only to make them, but to use them. Ancients weren't stupid. ;o)
7 feet tall person, back then would be called a giant, which started the entire myth about them. They were based off of real people. They were very tall and were called Giants.
@@chinemeremohaeri9100 rhapsody why there's a kernel of truth in every ledgend. It's the listeners fault if they can't tell the difference between the story and the details.
@@gnarthdarkanen7464 theres a story about a missionary telling some tribals the story of david and golaith. Supposedly they said "what a fool! He went against a slinger!"
Came here from Spotify just to figure out what all the damn popping sounds are about. Simon, when the memes are sufficiently dank, they don't need sound effects.
Guy at work saw a good sized bull snake. The next day I heard him telling someone that it was 8ft long. The longest bull snake ever recorded was 8.5ft. it took less than 24 hours and the original witness to make that jump.
Simon's comment about his daughter being afraid of Peppa Pig had me laughing. At 1 1/2 yr old, my son was obsessed with Freddy Krueger. He never liked kiddie shows. Thank goodness! By 3 yr old, he'd seen all the horror classics. He would tell people " Don't worry, it's not real & I'm going be with you so you won't get scared". :)
I live a few towns over from Robert Wadlows home. A shoe store in my town made shoes for him and they had a pair of his shoes in their window. They were huge.
🤣🤣🤣 I am watching on my laptop, and we sip our coffee together, and I laugh with him and would really like to comment sometimes, as in having a real conversation. It feels like I am sharing the desk with him! 😁
By the way, Simon's right about his hunch on the biblical Nephilim not being literal giants. The word itself is often translated as "giant", but it might be more accurate to say they were demigods of sorts, being the children of male angels (not gods themselves but comparable for our purposes), and human women. And so the children of those parents would be demigods, aka "men of renown". And that's not even touching on the belief that Judaism (and Christianity by extension) was likely polytheistic at the start and morphed into monotheism by the time Christianity comes around, so some believe that the Nephilim were actually other gods aside from Big G himself, and not just angels under him.
I love the "they said the burial mounds were there before them!" like you didnt just go into a village and ask who made the graveyard. "i dont know, it was there when I got here" does not mean it predates the dude's entire ethnicity lmao. When a feature or structure is so old that it is part of the land scape (doubly so for Mississippian mounds), the telling of who is kind of lost in the oral history. There has only ever been one group of people in the local area, and if it's thousands of years old, asking a villager where it came from is like asking them where the mountains came from. "Someone probably built it, man, idk."
Another interesting angle is the energy intake(food) and getting rid of excess body heat. Those might be a problem if you are one of those bigger giants.
The apocrypha Book of Enoch goes into more detail about the nephilim which, that holds, were the offspring of humans and the Grigori (the Watchers) choir of angels. They fell from grace because they wanted to take humans as mates. Fun trivia: the Nephilim are also depicted in an etching on the hilt of the sword Beowulf uses to slay Grendel's mother as being wiped out by The Flood in a translation of Beowulf. If this appearance seems odd (esp. since abrahamic religions wouldn't spread out to nordic regions for a few hundred years after Beowulf was first told), it helps to understand that a Christian monk was responsible for writing down the first copies we have to work from today.
maybe Simon should do something on the theory that Dinosaurs were not as old as claimed and they are actualy Dragons of old 🤣I heard this claim years ago and although I havent heard it seriously suggested for a long time, it sometimes pops back into my head whenever I see or read something like this story on giants, but then again, what if ? 🤣
I've always thought the same thing. When I was talking about it with a friend they told me that for an animal to be considered a dragon it has to be a reptile with wings and must breathe fire. Upon googling I did find that there was that there was a dinosaur, PTEROSAUR, that looks like a giant bird but it's considered a reptile. Its wings do not have feathers. They are covered in skin, kind of like a bat. When they are walking on land and they bend their wings back and up and walk on something that resembles a hand at the elbow joint. Some species can grow to be tall as a giraffe. I hope you are able to somewhat imagine what I described. LOL! They are referred to as a 'Giant Reptilian Stork' dinosaur. You should totally Google it if that kind of stuff interests you. They are freaky looking, definitely not a typical dinosaur. It would be fascinating to see it in real life but I have a feeling they would be predators to humans. 😵😵😵
The Valiant Little Tailor is most known for a Mickey Mouse adaptation. The rough outline of the plot is that there's a giant terrorising the kingdom, and the king sends out his knights to find someone who can kill giants. As they're discussing this, the knights overhear the local tailor boasting that he "killed seven with one blow." They think he meant giants. He actually meant flies. So they cart him off to the castle and the tailor hasn't got the nerve to correct anyone and instead tries to play it off as demanding an exorbitant fee for the service, hoping to basically haggle the king out of asking him. The king then offers his daughter, and the tailor decides to do it because boners. Anyway he kills the giant with trickery and marries the princess, the end.
You've got it! 🙂👍 There's also Jack the Giant-killer from English folklore. (Not the same as Jack and the Beanstalk.) He's another trickster figure who defeats giants.
Anyone else see the picture of Arnold Schwarzenegger next to Wilt Chamberlin and Andre the Giant? Arnie is 6'2", and he looks tiny next to 7 feet tall guys. Imagine a 5'2" guy fighting guys over 7'. They would look like giants, just not 30-foot giants.
When I was 3, maybe 4, my two older brothers dug out a 6 foot long footprint and showed it to me. they were trying to convince me that real giants still roamed the Earth.
@@maxamahnken7325 "The Old Testament" and "The Book of Mormon" both mention giants. I don't know about historical texts. What I do know is that if any remains of giants have been found, somebody is going to a lot of trouble to keep it from being anything more than a conspiracy theory.
As a nerd, I have to point out that giants in Norse mythology is mostly based on poor translations of the word Jotunn, since they were not especially large. Probably better described kinda like anti-aesir? More the opposite of the Aesir who were bringing order and the Jotunn were bringing chaos
@@richbroadhead8814 not really. They are like the aesir and look similar to aesir, and honestly some of the aesir are part jotunn. Like Odin or Loki. They are more like a different family/tribe group, but even that isn't clear cut since the aesir and jotunn have had kids together. Many academics don't even translate the term jotunn anymore in academic works, but anglicize it to jotunn(ar) and leave it at that, since the "giant" translation has done nothing to cause confusions and misunderstandings
I feel like the word "giants" referenced is very metaphorical. Literally, a giant is a large, intimidating, overwhelmingly powerful and destructive figure. The same could be said about a tall modern man with anger management issues holding a machete or something. For example to look at eyes of someone from very close distance, close enough to give you a hug, who is 4 inches or about 10cm taller than you is enough to make you raise your head as if you are looking at a giant. Give him a large body, a long unattented beard, black eyes and rough clothes who is glaring at you, it's enough to make you feel very intimidated and very cautious of him, let alone if he carries a weapon like a knife or, worse, something larger. The metaphorical meaning should be something similar to the literal meaning: a large, intimidating, overwhelmingly powerful, and optionally destructive, "something". The reason we call some corporations as "giants" is not only because of their actual size but also, the influence and power they have making them very intimidating to go against. What ancient phrases have taught me, whether they sound real or not, is that they always have a meaning behind them. Most of the times, they were not created for no reason. Something must have influenced their creation. I am tempted to read the Genesis just to find all these fantasies and find if there is a hidden meaning behind them. For example Eve was created from Adam's ribs. A meaning that could attach to that phrase is (after a Google search: The rib cage help protects the organs in the chest, such as the heart and lungs, from damage, so,) that Eve, who represents females that can become wifes and life long companions, are meant to protect the feelings (heart) and assist their housebands when they are facing mental troubles (protect from/help relief pressure). The apple is, of course, sin, which could range from anything like lying to taking someone's life, and the snake is our inner demon/temptation that will push us into commiting that sin. When Adam and Eve ate that apple meant that they commited an unforgivable sin, not have sex as it is implied, and god forced them out of paradise, or "the garden" because of it.
I mean, we found literal hobbits in the fossil record. A branch of humanity evolving to be taller then average, more likely during the Ice Age, and our ancestors just remembering them as being bigger then they actually were.
not literal hobbits but a species of hominid that was just small. probably from being isolated in a place with less food. so they descrease in size over generations. these also loved long before the ice age. and probably evolved from homo erectus hundreds of thousands of years ago
@@AlekseyMaksimovichPeshkov Not all groups but people in Australia in general appear to become quite Lanky. Have met many very tall Aboriginal aussies.
Former Christian here: Uh, nope. It’s real to people. The basic explanation is that all that magic stuff doesn’t happen nowadays because we’re in some kind of era of little to no divine communication. That’s the gist of it, but Young Earth Creationists are very real, and I’d venture to say most (if not all) Christians think the Old Testament is history.
I think that's salience more than stats. My tiny home town has dozens of churches. We all remember the snake handling fire walking ones. One has to work to remember the calm, quiet ones.
When women were given testosterone they became more skeptical than before and when old men were given testosterone they became LESS religious, not more which would explain why women generally are more religious than men
AND two of the most skillful LIARS are soldiers and sailors. If they're talking, about 80 or 90% of it is utterly crap... So much for "witness testimony". ;o)
the interesting aspect of human history, is that anytime before 10-15,000yrs, we have little to no knowledge on what was happening. every myth and legend always has some grain of 'truth' behind them. in regards to 'giants' the avg height of a person was around 5'5. so anyone above that, though uncommon, could have been considered as 'giants'
We’ve been biologically virtually the exact same for 300,000 years. Think about how many INSANE things could have happened during that time that we just don’t know about anymore
Exactly. Take the height of the figure on the Shroud of Turin. It has been estimated that the figure is in the range of 5’7” and 6’2”. The tallest person in my family was between 6’6” and 6’8”. He lived during the late 19th/early 20th century so if the average male height was 5’5” or 5’6” in the ancient period then that means that Goliath, if he did exist, was probably taller than the average Israelite thanks to a diet rich in protein and good genes. The fact that there was a person who was way taller than average in my family is funny considering my grandpa (dad’s dad) was 5’10”, the same height as my mom which means that after grandpa was born all subsequent men born into the family didn’t inherit the gene(s) for being taller than 6’2”. I don’t know why there was a shrinkage in height, genetics are weird like that.
I think it’s more believable that these average size humans in North Africa encountered another group from the upper Nile of taller people like the Assai or medja: known to be very tall. Also, I believe they had crazy imaginations back then.
My family is currently living in Japan, and my husband is 6' 2". We stand out wherever we go. Lol. I can always find him in a crowd and it makes life so much easier.
As someone that read the bible in Hebrew (so no translation problem) it's not exactly giants... It's nephilim, which later was understood us giants but it is a more modern idea. A lot of the stories are... Weird but there is archeological evidence that correlate some of them, it's depends on the book (the bible have three distinct parts, some are less crazy like kings which is mostly just the list of kings that is known for a fact did exist).
I live near Cardiff NY and I can confirm the Giant story is still a popular one and some people actually still believe it despite the background being known.
Watching this series, I've come realize Simon really doesn't know anything. Which is absolutely amazing. He's a pretty good actor who embraced his appearance to host a series of nerdy youtube channels, but off the cuff it's pretty amazing. I can't fault anyone for not believing the Bible. but at the same time understand the Bible represents millenia old literature that was quasi required and influential for many important literary figures across Europe and in English specifically. Shakespeare has biblical reference, Sir Isaac Newton wrote more books on Christian mysticism than he ever did Calculus, Dr Martin Luther King Jr was a Baptist pastor who's speech style is reminiscent of Paul and the other Epistles in the New Testament. His final speech literally references Moses looking out from a mountaintop before he died seeing the Promised Land, and King would die hours after that speech. So mock it for is beliefs, just recognize the literary importance. Its a book that caries forward storytelling and literary traditions from millenia. For example the story of Moses follows an archetypal Hero's Journey, but it itself builds on the well know story of the era of King Sargon of the Akkadians, one of the first recorded empires in the world, or at least the middle east. Like how fascinating is that. Also while the King James bible is well regarded, there are plenty of easier to read translations. ISV and ESV are common, but it's rather quick to do wikipedia searches to see the translation goals and efficacy and controveries. I've gone to the point of translating things word by word before, and look into multiple translation to get the best gist of a given passage.,
Actually it's the greatest cover up out there, bigger than Area 51, the staged moon landing and Elvis faking his death, all true btw. Not to be confused with obviously fake Qanon conspiracy theories like lizard people, the resurrection of John Jr. and the stolen election. Yes some people point to chickens as proof that birds are real but those are birds in captivity and represent the last real birds on Earth. The birds you see at your typical backyard bird feeder are Aviandroids.
Simon, may I suggest the New Living Translation (NLT) for future videos? I find it much easier to read as it is in modern English, but the translators went back to the original Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek texts and any time there was a disagreement in the translation, they pulled in more experts until an agreement was made.
When I was younger there used to be a lot of Sideshow attractions that would go down to town and show off weird Oddities and some of these shows would have these giant skeletons there was a museum and a small town near me that had three of them in their collection that you could just walk in and see up until 1987 and then for some reason they were taken down and put in storage and since then has been lost but I remember clearly seeing these remains with my own two eyes
Hey- nice! I have also had a good look at a giant skeleton in a museum in Interlaken, Switzerland (you can see photos of it online if anyone wants to look it up), and a 1metre long human thigh bone (museum in Colorado), and so, I've seen those- with my own two eyes also! :) Our eyes know and that's all that matters ;)
Only about 18 mins in so don't know if it's talked about later but there is the account of the Afgan giant by the US military patrol that encounter it/him
It probably depends on location. I live in eastern Europe and it was indeed called The Brave Little Tailor here. I'm actually surprised Simon doesn't know it, I'm around the same age as him and it was very popular in the 90s when we were growing up.
Mormon here. (Apparently rare to be a Mormon and Simon Whistler follower on all his channels, but ya know) I think there are quite a few people who take the bible literally, but In my experience the majority take it much less literally, and view it as a book with some good lessons, but translated many times by many different people. This may be more common in LDS circles then elsewhere though. The phrase "as far as it is translated correctly" comes to mind. Love the show as always Simon!
thats odly reasonable for a mormon. usually you guys are the craziest literallistic christians out there. next to JW's. its awesome to see there are some that can see the horrible and wrong things in scripture
Can I ask an honest question as someone relatively ignorant to Mormonism? You clearly recognize that the Bible has been translated and rewritten and edited several hundreds of times over thousands of years. By following the most recent of these translations, wouldn't it reason that your interpretation is the most altered and furthest from the original work?
@@joeblow8982 ask away - We use the king James version (which I believe is the most common version?), and believe it to be correct as far as it's translated correctly. We do have parts that have additional notes and, and compiled in the Joseph Smith translation. Not a complete rewrite, but what we believe to be an improved translation under the guidance of God. That guidance or revelation is what we believe to be the key. This is a longer conversation then RUclips comments are conducive to, but there is the TL;DR
@themightymoose5047 I honestly appreciate the response. I wasn't intending to attack your faith in any way, its just something that I wondered while reading your comment and I don't know any Mormons in real life so this seemed like a good opportunity to play "ask a Mormon". 😆 I now have a better understanding of why and what Mormons believe, and I have to thank you for that. I appreciate you not taking offense and giving an honest answer to what feels like a difficult question! Respect brother!
Something I find really surprising is that even a 2022 forensic anthropologist cannot give a precise height of a deceased person, from their fully skeletized remains. Apparently there is a considerable range of how thick cartilage between bones can be from person to person, and other little things that can add up. The best they can do is give a 3-inch height range, not bad I guess but it still surprises me, compared to how much you can learn from a few of the person's hairs or skin cells! All that ^ to frame the question: how the heck can we take a 1930's farmer's word for how tall one of the people in the grave was?
true, but some cases the entire skeleton was said to be seen and they could tell how big it was from that, and also scientists from those times also saw these too and determined it
There’s a burial mound in my state, the skeleton in the middle was originally measured at around 8ft tall. This gave rise to a lot of giant stories. Unfortunately it was a field measurement which doesn’t take into account bone separation. He was probably closer to 6 or 6 1/2 feet.
That is tall. Is there any estimation for when the burial mound was made? Because if it’s from the pre-Columbian period then the person might have been a highly regarded figure in their community. I remember seeing a program in which it was said that the bones of a Native American man from the Colonial period was measured at 5’7” which is my height so if he was 6’0” then he probably was of a high rank.
I was today years old when I had the big brain moment of realizing that the name of this series is referring to cold reading the scripts, not whatever the scripts themselves contained. You are literally Decoding (cold reading) the Unknown (the contents of the script you haven't read before). It took me watching about 10 of these before I realized what it all meant.
I always imagined Goliath was like 6'8 to 7'4 - absolutely massive for his age - and brawny, while David was like 5'2 like most men were during the late bronze age were. Seems reasonable given we have evidence that there was a king named "David" from that time period which fits the Bible's story.
It's very interesting how going to religious school almost invariably turns people in "free" societies into sceptics. I only put "free" in quotes because I'm quite convinced that free will doesn't (and cannot) exist... but that's a discussion for Simon's psychology/neurology channel when it comes along.
depends on what is meant with free will. do we make choices,yes. are those choices pre determined in some way by experience etc. i think so. thats whyni think there is some free will, but its mostly an illusion
Hey religion is important for women: it makes them more feminine and less toxic. Studies show that when given testosterone old men became less religious and it’s just a statistical fact that women are more religious than men. So whereas I don’t think MEN should be religious or believe in paranormal/conspiracy crap (in fact I think it’s quite pathetic especially for a man) I think it’s fine In women, in fact I think it’s kind of cute
I loved to buy the World News at the airport news shop prior to flights (2000-2010). My wife would groan because I would look at articles and exclaim to her about all the amazing stuff they uncovered! Of course this was stagecraft for my captive audience around me. The looks I got were wonderful. Drove her nuts.
They were smaller, not larger, if you're referring to Northern African (aka Carthaginian) elephants. There's historic documentation of their size, they were about the size of African Forest elephants.
@@laurendisney he's making a small confusion. It's not Hannibal's elephants. It's Hannibal's last elephant to survive the trip(tho I've also seen it said that it was his personal elephant), Surus, which some historians believe was the last living Syrian elephant. They were indeed very large.
Search for Lost Giants was actually a pretty interesting show. These guys who think they've found something interesting go across the country to study other ancient giant stories, and ultimately decide that they don't want to repeat the mistakes of past adventure-archeologists and don't excavate the site without the backing of the scientific community. It's a good reminder that real science isn't about finding things, it's about doing it right. I think Simon would actually appreciate the amount of healthy skepticism they stick to.
Many sections of the Old Testament simply interleave different versions of the same story. Sometimes reading it one feels like, 'Oh! The first version wasn't werid enough that it needed to be even crazier? Then you get to Judges and, well, there's something like seven different stories that are roughly the same plot, different names, many thousands of people die.
I heard somewhere that the scripture we have now is the result of multiple mythologies that got combined. Like how the stories of Moses and Abraham have different origins. And for most of biblical history the area was split between different kingdoms, which probably had their own stories, and after they came together, the scripture also came together.
The first ship to arrive on Easter Island reported that their was two races of people who inhabited the island. One being the race that is still there, the being a race of giants. The giants were said to be the leaders. Only 50 years later the second expedition found that all the giants were gone .
People were a lot shorter back in the days of David and Goliath. So of David was 5' tall and Goliath was 6'5... He'd seem like a giant. Also, the writers of "history" back then were also poets and artists. Exaggeration and flat out Fabrication were pretty common.
Noooooo Simon! Clockwork Orange is FINE as it is! I read it as a teenager and always loved how it's so hard at the start, then you get used to it and at the end when everything is written normally, THAT feels foreign. It made me think how easy it is to get sucked into things that change our perception of what "normal" is! The Bible on the other hand does need some working on. I agree on that point 😅 I think there's some chav slang version that David Mitchell ABHORS pahaha
@@bondickle I'm a fan of crazy punctuation since I read so much poetry, but I agree with you that requiem for a dream gets crazy. I blame James Joyce for that trend
23:40 I remember watching some Discovery/History Channel re-run about Nazi super weapons, and in that episode they talked about the German occupation of the Channel Islands during WWII. The whole hour-long episode built up how the Germans had placed unused battleship guns and elaborate spotting towers all over the island in preparation for the inevitable counter-attack, and all of the crazy lengths they went to to try and keep them secret. Finally, in the final five minutes of the episode, they revealed how the Allies were able to overcome these seemingly insurmountable fortifications; they didn't. They just...sailed around the islands and left them there, cut off from German supplies and reinforcements, for like, a year. I think I genuinely laughed at the reveal, and was actually impressed by their commitment to dragging the viewer along. Apparently, the Channel Island locals were somehow feeding intel to the British in secret, and the lack of anti-air defenses meant spy planes could effortlessly canvas the island even in broad daylight. The British knew every single detail about the German defenses, to the point that once the Allies had cut the islands off the occasional British warship would steam close to shore, right inside the blind spots of the guns, and fire off a volley over the islands just to taunt the Germans.
Great writing as always from Katie! But no coverage of contemporary reports of giants in the mountains of Afghanistan. Multiple(obviously unconfirmed reports) of Giants from the US military. Both army and marines. Not a believer myself but I find these reports particularly fascinating!
@@damage_inc86425 exactly! And Gerald yes I get it could be any number of things, the helicopter pilot was almost certainly not on any kind of drugs though.
@@vargasbryce The helicopter pilot wasn't on any type of drugs because the helicopter pilot doesn't exist. The video was made by a guy who regularly tries to "prove" that the Bible is factually correct and has created previous fantastical stories.
Depending how you define "giant" is exactly what I keep telling people. They're all "we found bones of people of people 7-9 feet tall though!", okay, but the tallest man alive today is over 8 feet tall.. so we know that's an attainable height..
i agree. because the 7-8 footers of which there were thousands of reports of up until the mid 1900s, one of which was a 36 inch circumference skull which smithsonian found which is nearly 2 times the circumference of a normal human skull at 22 inches, and also them in abundance having double rows of teeth which the scientific american said, and also while this skeleton is a news report it shows up in 2 news articles 1 when it was discovered and the 2nd 6 months later being put in the back of a van to get taken to the smithsonian which i think gives it decent credibility, a 7 foot 5 skeleton which had 26 inch shoulders which is 1 inch wider than peak ronnie coleman, i think means that these skeletons which were being found were straight up built different. theres countless news reports of 10-14 footers too, but thats when the evidence starts to not be firm
To explain the Israelire scouts in Numbers, as other commenters hace explained other bits and pieces - the scouts were basically exaggerating because they were scared of the Canaanites, they said they'd seen Nephilim in regards to probably strong Canaanites. They were also punished for this to add the context of 'there weren't literally giants'
Dude I am cracking up. I feel like simon. Was in Christian school for 10 years before I was sent to public schools. I have forgotten more about that mythology book than anything despite Bible being taught and drilled in my head from 8 am to 930 am every single morning until i was 13. I get it
Fun fact: If you watch all of the videos from all of Simon’s RUclips channels on a 55” OLED screen, it’s pretty much like he’s moved in with you and never shuts up. 😁
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Simon as the ranting roommate who doesn’t pay rent… at least he’s amusing! 🤣
Thank god my screen is only 21" then.
Hahahahahahahahaha yes. But we don't kick him out either....
Omg that's hilarious! Just imagine his old business blaze videos 🤣 🤣 it's like having that drunk uncle from Thanksgiving move in with you.
I think Red Dwarf has the proper answer to, "did aliens make the pyramids."
RIMMER: No, Lister, I mean like the pyramids. How did they move such massive pieces of stone without the aid of modern technology?
LISTER: They had massive whips, Rimmer. Massive, massive whips.
A note on Goliath. In the earliest versions of the story that have been found, he was 6 1/2 feet tall. At a time when the Israelites were probably 4-5 feet tall, he'd have been huge. Only in later versions did he become 9 1/2 feet tall.
And a sling can easily kill a person with a head shot. In the hands of someone who knows what they're doing, they're lethal.
They are far more than lethal. In the ancient world. They had entire divisions of them that would go into battle and mess opponents up.
Wasn’t King Saul 6’1 at least?
@beccavraden9845
"far more than lethal"😂😂😂
Apparently a sling will do far more than just KILL YOU.
I'm honestly curious what you thought you meant😂
They're basically guns in the hands of a trained user.
Imagane being like Tom Cruise height on an ancient battle field and you defeat Tyson Fury. Yea you and all your freinds would say he was a giant because , from your perspective, he is a giant
Dude, you could ABSOLUTELY kill someone with a sling. Not a wristrocket, while fun and dangerous, a true sling with the proper ammo could be devastating to an opponent that just stood there. I think someone back then carrying a sling, likely knew how to use it, and use it well.
sling was a serious weapon back then - one of the best
I'm sure I've read somewhere they were used to take down whatever the equivalent of bison were a few thousand years ago when hunting. Something to do with cave art or some such origin but it definitely mentioned slingshot, hunting, death - of the prey, and eating.
I worked with a guy who was 7ft 3 inches tall. I'm 6ft even. He still made me feel small. Unfortunately, he fell ill with classic problems for tall people like him. Ironically, I'm from Fort Dodge Iowa. That's where the gypsum that the Cardiff Giant came from.
Fellow Iowan here. Did not know that bit of state trivia. Very cool.
I'd love to see y'all make a video about the "Paul is dead" joke/urban legend/whatever (about how the Beatles' bassist secretly died and was replaced with a lookalike). I was fascinated with it when I was young and I think Simon and the team would have a lot of fun exploring it. Big fan of the show, keep up the great work!
I did suggest this but an almost pre-pubescent Whistle Boi did a short version eons ago on a different channel. He has green lit a deeper dive but I’m worried Macca is imminently going to pop his clogs so the whole thing would become pointless 😆
@@katywatson4940 yeah, but even cyborg replacements where out eventually, for the sake of looking real
Not dead yet.
That would be something I would like too!
@@katywatson4940 I was just about to comment "I'm pretty sure he touched on this briefly on another channel, a couple years back." I'd definitely like to see some more exploration around the topic!
I mean when the average height of a population is 5 foot, I imagine seeing a bunch of people with an average height of 6-7 foot plus they'd 100% look like Giants.
A bunch of people 7’ today would be seen as giants.
@@nicholaslewis8594 I know if I saw several 7' tall people together my first thought would be "Holy shit! Giants!"
I was gonna say I'm 6'2" and I get jokes all the time about my height by people under my height. After 6 feet tall alot of people seem taller then they are by people of average or less height.
I was about to make this exact same comment. When you short, everyone else must seem like a giant.
@@Aliyah_666 yupyup same here, also 6,2ft...and for a girl that's pretty "giant" like according to anyone smaller
Amerigo Vespucci documented an encounter with a tribe that had exceptionally tall members and that the chief of one of the tribes along with his son were the tallest men he'd ever encountered. The estimated height was just over 8'
Maybe Amerigo was extremely short 🤔😆
Have you ever been to Denmark
@@Becky317girl oh yes this has been brought up many times. They averaged around 5'5". It's the same feeling the Romans had towards the Danes and goths
If a man is around 5ft tall and says they're a quarter of my height taller than me... that still puts them close to 7ft. Hell, Shaq, Yau Ming and a lot of other people in the NBA are almost 7ft tall. Don't know why people's tales of tall people are written off as myth.
@@derickdoig4008 or to the Netherlands
I have a coworker who is definitely close to 7 feet tall, his wife is also taller than myself at 6 feet. From what I've learned they are from at region in Africa where persistence hunting (chasing animals until they pass out) was still used until modern times
there are some tribes in africa that have really tall people. i think it might be because those tribes have a lot of cattle and drink a lot of milk. its probably the same reason why i am the average male height here at 6.1 foot.
@@theflyingdutchguy9870 part genetic part diet.
A lot of east asians are actually genetically tall. But they have poor economies and culturaly eat a lot of rice. So they dont end up growing tall that often.
According to Arabic legend, Batawil the son of Tyras and grandson of Japheth had a daughter named Qarnabil who married Cush the son of Ham. Bir Tawil is an area of land along the border between Egypt and Sudan and is named for Batawil. The Batwa also known as the Twa people living in Rwanda, Burundi, Uganda and Congo descend from Japheth and Ham and retain the name of their ancestor in their tribal name. Batá is a Muslim name for boys but is of Turkish origin. Togarmah son of Gomer and Go-yong "TǔTán" are the ancestors of the Turkish people. Gomer the son of Japheth and grandson of Noah. Tawil is Arabic and means "tall" or "long". Depending on source average height of the Batwa people is four feet or 5 feet but many of the close cousins of the Twa people are actually tall. Anak King of the Anakim (Anakites) son of King Arba were known as Amorite kings. The ancient Amorites descend from Emer the son of Canaan and grandson of Ham. The word "Anak" in Arabic means "long neck" and refers to the long jewelry and metal rings many of them wore around their necks. The long-necked Kayan people are a sub-group of Red Karen people from Myanmar’s Kayah/Karenni region. Japheth and Ham are the ancestors of the Asian people. The Anakites were one of the 36 giant tribes mentioned in the bible. The Riphatheans probably mixed with Shem and Hams descendants and became known as the "Rephaites" or "Repha'im". Japheth through his son Tiras was the ancestor of the Tyrrhenians also later known as the Thracians named for Ares "Thrax" and his son King Thrax. The Thracians were very tall and had red hair and red beards. Japheth ruled over the mountain range of Râfâ. In the Hebrew Bible, it mentions the "Rephaites" or "Repha'im" the ancient race of giants who live in Israel. Legend claims Jaffa was built by Japheth, son of Noah. Jaffa is claimed to be the oldest port in the world. The Rephaim can be found in various places throughout the Levant, including Canaan, Philistia, Judah, Ammon, Moab, Bashan, Syria, and Phoenicia. The legend of Si-Te-Cah: The Red-haired" giants of early America. Adataneses also known as "Hadath the Red" and the wife of Japheth. The Duhares were a tribe of people living in America with gray eyes, tanned skin, and red to brown hair, as well as being unusually tall. Their leader was King Datha who was said to be very tall and tattooed. When the ancestors of the native Americans first arrived, they discovered there were giant red-haired people already living in the Americas. The name of King Datha preserves the name of their ancestor Adataneses the wife of Japheth based on my research. Tuyscon son of Noah and King of Almaign (Germany) and also founder of Tuscany, Italy. Po Valley is located in Northern Italy and was an ancient agricultural paradise and the Greek name for Japheth was Poseidon. Sicily was colonized by the ancient Phoenicians. The city of Sidon was built by ancient Sidonians who descend from Sidoa son of Canaan and grandson of Ham and the ancient Tyrrhenians who descend from Tyrrhenus "Tyras" the son of Japheth. There is a village called Leitir Fura. Japheth is the ancestor of the people of Scotland and Ireland, and this village was named for their ancestor Furra "Fura" the wife of Japheth. Leitir Fura roughly translates into "a plane or landing of oaks" with Fura supposedly meaning oak. The origin of the name Catalpa is the Greek word Kutuhlpa which translates as a tree with wings or winged head tree. Catalpa is a genus of flowering plants. The Catalpa is a spelling variation of Cataphua the name of the wife of Ham son of Noah. The native American tribal name Catawba is a spelling variation of Catalpa. Nemed "Nimeth" ancestor of the Nemedians and his other names are Nemhedh and Nemedh, King of Agnoman the direct descendant of Magog the son of Japheth. The creators of NimedHealth appears to have named it after Nemed the ancestor of the Fir Bolg, Formorians and the Tuatha Dé Danann. Fura Da Nono also called Fura De Nunu according to the tradition of the Fulani tribe of Nigeria Fura means "millet" and Nono means "milk". Oak Island in Nova Scotia means "New Scotland". The Scottish people descend from Magog and Gomer the sons of Japheth and are the ancestors of the Scythians. The Celtic people descend from Kimmérioi ancestor of the Cimmerians of Crimea son of Taari "Tauri" (Taurians), grandson of Tubal and great grandson of Japheth. The Duhares tribe their leader was King Datha also known as "Greenwood" which also happens to be the name of a village located in the western part of Kings County in Nova Scotia's Annapolis Valley. The other spelling variations of his name are Data and Dathaw. The location named after him is Dataw Island in Beaufort County, South Carolina. Oak island is located in Nova Scotia, Canada. Its more then likely that descendants of Japheth founded Oak Island. Javan was the son of Japheth and ancestor of the ancient Greeks. King Minos asked Poseidon to show him a divine sign that proves his right to rule over Crete and Poseidon sent him a white bull as a gift. The White Bull is a symbol of power and the Bianca Modenese or Modenese is a breed of cattle that has a white coat and also from the Po Valley, in the Emilia Romagna and Lombardy regions of northern Italy. The name of King Minos is a spelling variation of the nicknames of Mizraim "Menes" and "Min" the son of Ham. Caphtorim "Caphtor" ancestor of the Caphtorites and the son of Mizraim. The Caphtorites were one of the 36 tribes of giants mentioned in the bible. According to experts Caphtorim "Caphtor" has been identified with the island of Crete in the Mediterranean Sea. The island of Crete is known for being an excellent location to grow pomegranates. The name "Caphtor" means "Pomegranate". Ancient Iran and Persia is the second-largest producer and largest exporter of pomegranates in the world. The Iranian Medes descend from Madai the son of Japheth. The ancient Persians were founded by Shem known to the Greeks as Zeus. The ancient name of the Persians was Parsuash also known as "ParZeus". Perseus son of Zeus (Shem) was the founder of Mycenae and the Mycenaeans ruled over all the area from Crete to the Cycladic islands. Perseus married Andromeda which can be spelled Andromedai, Andromedia and Andromedes. Persephone the daughter of Shem (Zeus) married Hades (Ham) and one her symbols is the pomegranate. Persephone's name is connected to the Persians and Phoenicians. The Persians settled in the territory of Persis (also Parsa, modern-day Fars). She was deified as Proserpina or Proserpine an ancient goddess of Rome. The ancient Romans descend form Romim the son of Kittim and grandson of Javan. Kittim had another son named Kyprus "Chipris" and the island of Cyprus derives its name from him. Critheïs "Chretis" the son of Kittim and the island of Crete is named for him.
@@projectreracccty4764cop onto yourself ye maggot
@@projectreracccty4764 nobody reading allat
"Is that backstory canon?" Made me chuckle for much longer than I should have been
“Andre the giant” spent his life in pain because of his size. Being tall is great, being a giant though just sounds horrible
same with Richard Keel (Jaws in James Bond)
I'm a massage therapist who does medical massage and have worked on people above 6' 11" and it's actually heart breaking how much pain they are in and what their tissue is going through. It's bad enough that their own system can't always handle that, but that absolutely NOTHING is built to their size makes it so much worse. One client was actually crying in pain as I worked on them because of a 2 hour flight in coach.
Tien Kou in China and Tengu in Japan.
@Nutsack uhhhh okay
@@Lunch_Meat definitely right. Being 6'6" isn't always all that it's cracked up to be. Especially trying to get clothes that fit, without having to order it.
Sometimes, I listen to Simon say "People don't really believe this do they?" about the Bible and all I can think is "Yes, I'm sorry, but yes." I grew up Southern Baptist and eventually out of it, but the largest evangelical denomination in America has a ton of people who believe that the Bible is the literal word of God. Sigh.....
I have some magic beans these people may be interested in.
If you live outside of North America, it's easy to forget how many American Christians are Biblical literalists.
Those professional crak pots Ken ham and Kent hovand are responsible for a lot of this. The case of Ken ham is really telling. He got laughed clear out of Australia so he came to the US where there were actually enough people who were either brainwashed or just straight up stupid enough to believe his nonsense to build a mega church. It was a national disgrace the day the creation museum opened. Kent Hovand's fake museum in Alabama is even more of a joke. Now a lot of people assume everyone in Alabama is an ignorant hick. Alabama has the United Launch Alliance rocket factory and NASAs Martial spaceflight center. There's plenty of smart people in Alabama and Kentucky but you hardly ever hear about them. Ken ham and Kent hovand have ruined the reputations of those two states.
In my tiny town of 450 people we had 1 store and 9 churches. Once we had 2 stores but one burned down.. the lot was turned into a rv park. Though the population was small the actual area was huge. So the churches are spread out.
May I humbly invite you to check out the Fellowship Covenant Podcast and hear the good news of our Lord and Savior Gormu (He might not like your shirt, though)
At a time when the average height of women was 5'2" & men was 5'6" anyone over 6ft tall would seem huge. Add into that exaggerating how fierce/big/savage your enemies were made vanquishing them all the more heroic in retelling.
it super weird to think about as im 6.1 and thats the exact average male height here
Huh research shows that when women were given testosterone they became more skeptical than before
This, absolutely this. Not to mention actually cases of Gigantism helping feed the exaggerations.
Yeah people got a lot taller. Even recently. Im 6'4, born in 2000, and when I was in HS most of my classmates were close to my height, with one being bigger ( tho he was taking HGH and test since 16). But people like 4 yeara older seemed in general shorter
It's painfully obvious this was the motivation. Especially, since David was an Israelite and Goliath a Philistine--fierce enemies at the time.
Here's a funny thing. I have a master's in biological anthropology and we have scientific articles about giants. There were several sets of human skeletal remains found in North America, several in Ohio near Zanesville that measured around 9 to 10 feet tall. My father's childhood friend is the historian that runs and maintains the Zanesville Historical Society where they have verified papers signed by the Smithsonian Institution where they transferred these giant remains to the Smithsonian. And yes, the papers label how big the remains were.
The man in charge of the Smithsonian at the time (Charles Walcott I think) mysteriously misplaced these remains. Which sounds convenient but guess what else that same man did...falsified and destroyed any Smithsonian records that suggested that humanity originated in Africa.
Not saying giants were real, but the "expert" in charge of collecting and preserving archaeological artifacts and remains for the Smithsonian bought up every set he could find and then they systematically vanished only for the same man several decades later to be exposed for destroying human remains and the remains of our ancestors to fit his Eurocentric viewpoint.
Pinson Mounds in Tennessee was said to contain 8 foot tall skeletons with red hair.
Stories abound around Rockwall Texas of giants and structures they built.
Cool story bro, got proof?
Simon Should start a "Bible reaction channel"/"Decoding the Bible" where he reads and reacts to Bible stories... pretty simple concept but could be HILARIOUS
I havn't seen this pointed out yet, but the oldest versions of I Samuel (Dead Sea Scrolls) and the Septuagent put Goliath at *four* cubits and a span -- in other words, about 6' 9" or 2.1m. That's still a giant by ancient standards, but no where near impossible.
Is that all?! I thought he was...like, GIAAANT! my dad's 6ft8, as are his cousins, both marginally taller. I've never once considered any of them giant, just tall!
I know two people who are 6'8" and one person who is 6'9." Two of those are brothers. The other has equally tall brothers, but with sisters who are closer to 6'4." Not only possible, but definitely a thing.
@@teaspoonsofpeanutbutter6425 when the average height of the time is around 5ft 3in for men, 6ft 8in would be giant by comparison.
Remember that George Washington was considering a literal towering figure of his day at 6ft 2in when the average height was 5ft 5in. Height throughout history and who was considered “giant” is somewhat relative.
@@blaznskais2048 I think you meant to say 5ft 6in.
@@blaznskais2048 Yeah it's relative but I'm only 5'2, and I still don't think of them as giant, just tall. When I think giant I think 8ft beasts.
Fact Boi once again displays how well he is in touch with popular culture. 😅 I'd love to see a RUclips channel where Simon just reads fairy tales and berates them cynically. 😊
Yess 🤣
Agree.
😅🤣😅
Don't give him the excuse to start another channel haha, he will die of exhaustion at this rate 😅
@@twosidedcoin4688 I think at this point channel production is even beyond Simon. 😂
The valiant little tailor was my favourite story as a kid.
A tailor killed seven flies with one whip of a towel and he is so proud of himself he makes a belt that says "seven in one blow" which leads to a series of villagers misinterpreting what he has killed seven of in one blow. And he gains a lot of respect, then he meets a giant who thinks it means he killed seven men in one blow and puts the tailor through a series of tests of strength. I don't remember them all but one example is the giant squeezes a rock until water comes out and the tailor pretends to pick up a rock from the ground, but actually retrieves a lump of cheese from his pocket and, squeezes it until whey comes out. He tricks the giant several times and then I don't remember how, but through one of his tricks he kills the giant and the village hail him as a giant slayer and a hero. The word valiant in the title is actually sarcastic 😌
Or is it he still faced the giant yeah it’s the same story I heard I think he as well throws a bird as if was a rock if I’m not wrong so like he throws it farther than the giant thrown his rock
7 in one blow, yeah I know her.
@@aaftiyoDkcdicurak 😂🤣😂
I had forgotten this story. Thanks for the reminder, I can't add anything as my memory is spotty.
Disney did it with Mickey Mouse as the tailor.
The average height at the time of David and Goliath was 5ft, meaning that a cubit was much smaller than the modern cubit.
Goliath gets a fair bit shorter when you adjust for the smaller cubit.
Also, the dead sea scrolls give his height as 4 cubits and a span, not 6 cubits and a span, which is MUCH shorter
As I understand a cubit, it would put Goliath at 6'6" to 7'.
Yeah Goliath was probably 6'5-7'. He was just an NBA player born in the wrong time period.
@@theroachden6195 Pretty much.
The average person was 5' 7" at the time.....
@ryano972 then you have a poor understanding of a cubit. Also, the point that the dead sea scrolls put him at 4 cubits is misleading. That was written during Roman times when a cubit was ~120cm.
I'm sure someone's mentioned this before, but another reading of "fallen ones" is in the sense of "fallen down in death" so its more like "the slain ones". Apocrypha on these references tie the Nephilim to part-divine figures in Mesopotamia or the Mediterranean, like Gilgamesh and Heracles
Simon: "That bed is Massive!"
Parents with kids and owners of pets that climb into bed with them: Still not big enough.
Right? Wouldn’t matter, they all want your tiny corner. 😂😂😂😂
As someone with a 9 year old child that kicks in her sleep and 2 large dogs, I feel this comment in my lower back.
The size of his bed I think means that he had this bigger bed to show power and wealth.
The "valiant little tailor" (Das tapfere Schneiderlein) is a fairy tale collected by the Grimm brothers. This is my very abridged version.
A poor tailor who swashes 7 flies with a slice of bread and jelly and feels very valiant, too valiant for his town. He then makes himself a sash and embroiders it with "seven with one strike" (Sieben auf einen Streich) and decides to wander the realms. After fooling a giant to believe he was stronger than the giant he finally gets into a kingdom, where the king is desperate for a hero to slay two giants that attack his people. Mistaking the tailor for a knight or prince, the king orders the tailor to slay the giants and offers him the hand of his daughter and half of the kingdom as dowry. So the tailor sets out to find the giants. With a little ingenuity, he brings the giants to fight each other until both are dead. The king regrets his promise and demands more quests to be undertaken which the smart tailor manages to do successfully. The tailor marries the princess and becomes king himself. Unfortunately, the tailor speaks in his sleep and the princess deduces his true identity. She tries to rid herself of him but fails because all knights are too afraid of him. So she has to stay married to him.
The tale of a smart man who fools everyone (including himself) to think of him as strong and valiant is one of the more famous by the Grimm brothers, at least in the German-speaking parts of Europe with more at least 8 movies, a tv-series and an anime made of the story.
Well Simon, I've a friend who did all the honors sciences in school and was raised...oh some kind of Protestant. I forget. Atheist now. I asked her about that, literally believing the bible, including Adam & Eve at church and science/evolution at school. She gave me a simple answer. "Cognitive dissonance."
dayum, lol
I'd like to weigh in on this. I just watched a Simon vid wherein he mentioned that DNA can't last 65,000,000 years, so Dinosaurs will not be cloned. Well, yeah, correct. But dino DNA exists. It's easy to search and find the references. It's DNA fragments only, but it is way too intact to be 65,000,000 years old. So, either many kinds of dinos were around as little as thousands of years ago, or there is something really dubious about Deep Time.
Deep time is accepted, WIDELY. Therefore it is true, and if you doubt it, you're stupid. That's the most powerful evidence in favor of deep time. Just look at the only evidence is presented right before calling a nay-sayer stupid: "But that's what I've been taught by large numbers of people. If you don't believe what I was taught by large numbers of people, then you are stupid."
Some weaker evidence for deep time are:
1. Radiometric dating of rocks. Radiometric dating has the huge problem that rocks absorb water, along with random minerals in the water. An exception is diamond, which is water tight. Every single diamond has bits of coal inside, and every bit of coal has carbon-14. There should be no carbon-14 at all in any diamond because diamonds are all too old. In fact, carbon-14 dating of the coal in diamonds always shows around 6,200 years of age. Further, laboratories have been tricked into dating volcanic rock newly emerged from Mt. St. Helens(they had to be tricked because they refused to do the work), and the labs reported ages of 30,000 to 500,000 for those samples. In other words the labs' method doesn't work.
2. The geologic column displays millions of years of sedimentation. Only the geological column doesn't exist, except in drawings. Rather, layers across the world are considered to be chronologically connected and a cartoon is drawn to illustrate continuity that is not actually found on site. Those cartoons are then published in high school text books. Also, the layers of sedimentation are aged by means of identifying the fossils found therein. But the fossils are aged by identifying the age of the sediment in which they are found. That of course is circular reasoning.
There's a lot more to this question than one gets from the Discovery Channel. Simon could do a fascinating upload on this subject, but he never will because that would be in violation of his deep ideological commitment to not being called stupid. It would be bad for his business, too.
I mostly agree with CCornelius. While science is good for describing and categorizing the observable universe, it's rubbish for finding meaning or purpose in life, and answering bigger questions than daily survival.
@@CenturianCornelious Calling people stupid for not believing what most people believe is unhelpful.
That being said... there are some issues in your points. As you suggested, I looked up the 'dinosaur DNA' references. Turns out it is always described only as 'possible' dino dna, even by the researchers who found it themselves: there's a lot of doubt about whether it actually is DNA, and if it, whether its from dinosaurs or bacteria. It's not really good evidence.
Next, rocks absorbing water might affect results on radiometric tests, but that is why most tests include a margin of error, and why scientists frequently compare results of different tests to see if they match up. Furthermore every source i can find says that diamonds aren't formed from coal, or at least it is very unlikely, due to diamonds usually forming much deeper in the earth than coal. I can't find any source that suggests that diamonds contain coal at all, so I'm a bit sceptical that you can even retrieve coal from a diamond to be dated. Even if this was the case though, and you got a result of 6, 200 years, it is far more likely that it is just this one isolated test that is wrong, rather than that every other test that shows them millions of years old is incorrect. A mistake could be due to background radiation being not factored in - there is always a certain amount present when carbon testing, and if not factored in, you can easily end up with a false reading.
Finally, the 'circular reasoning' point you've made. Scientists can date both layers and the fossils in them by finding nearby rocks through radiometric dating, as you've mentioned yourself. Given enough evidence that a certain creature only lived at certain times, if you find that creature at a different site, you can date the layer at the new site. This isn't circular reasoning - you age the layer by the fossil, but the fossil is aged by radiometrically dating the rocks found around it at other sites.
@@gullyfeather4330 "Unhelpful" is a very generous adjective in this case. A more apt term might be mob rule.
But yes, if one Googles dino DNA, one gets results saying "possible, possible, possible...." The problem with that is, the same method is used to examine dino samples as other, less controversial samples. It's called the DAPI test. If it's a dog that died 3000 years ago the results are accepted without issue. The difference with dino DNA is that some people are uncomfortable with the implications of finding dino DNA. Ideology is tainting the interpretation of data.
For example, when Mary Schweitzer reported finding B Rex blood vessels and blood cells, she spoke with a peer on the subject. He did not believe her findings. She asked what evidence could convince him, and he answered, "Nothing." Jack Horner is a colleague of Schweitzer. When offered a chance to test Schweitzer's samples for DNA he refused. He said it could not contain DNA, therefore he would not accept a free test. He claimed the samples were chemically nothing but "concrete," even though he had seen the blood vessels being flexed and stretched under a microscope. ruclips.net/video/MoVcj0DRglQ/видео.html&ab_channel=MaxBauer
(I can't stand Bob Enyart. I've unfortunately had some interaction with him. He is an asshole. Nonetheless, he's right about this.)
All radiometric rock testing has a margin of error, not some. And it's huge.
Radiometric testing labs require that samples submitted arrive with a presumed age. Then they test and re-test the sample until a figure in the presumed ballpark is achieved. They may test a sample 50 times until they get the expected result. This is of course illegitimate, so some researchers have tested the testers by submitting multiple rocks from the same source and presenting false presumptions of age. The different rocks came back with different ages.
Having been a jeweler, I've have many times seen uncrystallized carbon in diamonds. Every diamond has them initially, but expensive diamonds have been cut to exclude them. Recent theories about the formation of diamonds and whether the uncrystallized carbon within them is "coal" make no difference. Look at this:
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0168583X07002443
It is an analysis of diamonds extracted from geologic layers believed to be "greatly in excess of 100 Ma" (100 million years) containing carbon indisputably aged at as little as 110 μA (110 years).
Also,
ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2003AGUFM.V32C1045B/abstract
As to the circular reasoning thing, well, no offense, but you're just wrong:
“Contrary to what most scientists write, the fossil record does not support the Darwinian theory of evolution because it is this theory (there are several) which we use to interpret the fossil record. By doing so, we are guilty of circular reasoning if we then say the fossil record supports this theory.” -- West, Dr. Ronald (Kansas State Univ.) “Paleontology and Uniformitarianism” Compass 45:216, May 1968
“Structure, metamorphism, sedimentary reworking and other complications have to be considered. Radiometric dating would not have been feasible if the geologic column had not been erected first. The axiom that no process can measure itself means that there is no absolute time, but this relic of the traditional mechanics persists in the common distinction between ‘relative’ and ‘absolute’ age.” -- D’Rourke, J.E. “Pragmatism vs. Materialism in Stratigraphy”, American Journal of Science 276:54, Jan. 1976.
My favorite giant is Paul Bunyan. They have cool statues in towns/parks/campgrounds along the redwood coast of California. I remember one of them had an operator that made it talk. Cool when I was a kid.
My construction supervisor actually thinks the world is 6000 years old and constantly said the craziest stuff. He had 18 different Bibles in his car
I'm sorry you work for a cultists carpenter. You can always leave or move to a place that allows you to grow as a person and a worker.
Did he have to buy 18 of them to believe the horse excrement in it?
Stupidity may not be a disease but it spreads like one.
@@northplayyyer3453is that disrespect necessary or just personal anger against YHWH.
and yet he gets to vote for the leader of his nation... concerning
A cubit is around 18 inches. It makes Goliath about 9 feet tall. Robert Wadlow in the Guinness Book of records is listed as 8 feet 11 inches. Goliath probably had gigantism.
I thought a cubit was defined relative to the person elbow to end of the hand
@@erok268 It is but it averages out at about 18 inches. Different people being different sizes means it not an exact measurement.
@@paulbarnett227 face palms* doi makes sense haha
@@paulbarnett227 people were smaller back then though yes? So today's cubit would be larger than that of over 2000 years ago.
I don't buy that. If the story is more or less true, which I suspect it is, I can't imagine the Philistines using someone enfeebled by gigantism or some similar affliction as a champion. My guess is that he was a big, bad guy whose height has been exaggerated. Another possibility that comes to mind (a reach, I'll admit) is that the Philistines presented him as their champion but brought out the real one if someone from the opposing army still chose to engage in the duel. I like Gladwell, but c'mon.
I love this episode! There are references to giants in many ancient texts! You missed out the Kandahar giant in Afghanistan! 🧐
Came to the comments to find this very comment. I was gutted that that story wasn't included.
For the sake of comparing a real life giant to Goliath… Andre the giant who was 7 foot four and a professional wrestler of some renowned. Died in his 40s from a heart attack but he was a very well documented alcoholic so it’s hard to say if he died as a result of being an alcoholic or being a giant… But he was extremely athletic despite his size. So yes Goliath could’ve been like him.
And the only reason Andre drank a lot was because of all the pain he was in. But yeah, the gigantism he had been suffering from did contribute to his death.
so since Goliath the only other tall Person was Andre? Why not use robert wadlow or Shaq? they were much taller
@@bobknobbe3561I used Andre the giant because he was in a combat sport… So basically he would’ve had the same kind of lifestyle as Goliath more or less
@@robertcarter9535 i think theres 3 types of 7 foot. there people like andre the giant or the irish giant who suffered from gigantism, people like shaq or yao ming who became 7 foot without gigantism, and then those skeletons of 7 footers which are being found which have shoulders as wide as ronnie coleman at his peak (ronnie coleman had 25 inch shoulders) have skulls which are near twice the size of normal persons skull like that 36 inch circumference skull which smithsonian found in their 1872 report which was one some other large sized skulls they found which was 36 inches circumference, compared to a normal persons skull which is 22 inches circumference, and abundantly have perfect double rows of teeth which while some humans have it is super rare and is not in abundance in normal humans
He has bad joints his whole career and aged young.
Lol, simon is that one friend that gets a contact high just smelling or seeing some weed, and is all over the place trying to explain the most basic things everyone does. Love it!
I heard an interesting story about a theory about Goliath's height from TED. In summary of the theory, Goliath had Giantism due to a number of reasons. Goliath likely had poor vision due to him miscounting the number of sticks David was holding, and he (a great warrior) had to be led to the valley by someone else, and it is clear that he moved slow, which are common things for people with Giantism. Goliath could have very well been in the 7-9ft range. He may have had a more extreme case of Giantism where he could have grown to that height.
ruclips.net/video/ziGD7vQOwl8/видео.html.
It also talks about he had 6 fingers and 6 toes and so did his brothers so I'm guessing some kind of mutation
@@edwarddore7617maybe but gigantism is a real condition affecting the pituitary gland. I have a friend who's father has it, they are much taller and stronger than the average person.
@@edwarddore7617 it only says one or two of his brothers had six fingers not all of them
@@AlekseyMaksimovichPeshkovI thought it was one of his sons?,
lol
I love the editor insert of "new channel by Simon"
you really do have the best editors, they add so much to your shows
Really big dudes are already really big in reality. It's entirely possible there were earlier examples of people like Andre the Giant who would scare the everloving F out of anyone on the battlefield by just being there. Have you seen pictures of him holding a beer can? It looks like a tiny toy in his massive hands. He'd empty it with a sip and go through 24 just to start the evening. Epic. He was able to lift already bug guys over his head and toss them around like sacks of potatoes. Someone seeing him might well say "he was ten feet tall," because that's what he seems like.
They’d only be scary if they weren’t moving, otherwise mobility issues would make them an easy target.
@@nicholaslewis8594 psychological warfare babey, just use him as your commander that shouts "ATTACK!!!" really loudly from on top of a gigantic fucking horse and then stays in place as all the actual fighting troops run forwards to attack the enemy. Can he actually do much? No. Is the enemy fucking terrified that this gigantic person that makes a gigantic horse look like a tiny pony is leading the army? Hell yeah.
Archers. Nothing is too scary if you can kill it with 6 or more arrows from far enough away.
It was battle!
I've seen a person die and it can easily make something inside a person die along with it. It is freaking scary.
But afterwards that fear dies as well.
So I do not believe that seeing a 7' or taller person would be so terrifying that an army would not feel the confidence to kill them, and with archers it would have been no problem at all.
Now if a person were wearing armor and they stood over 12', that would probably change things. But I just don't believe it ever happened.
Stories are fun but there is no current proof that we can look at with out eyes and hands to study
@@jaymevosburgh3660 Or you could use a sling.
And he farted on the set of the princess bride and the stech shut it down for half and hour.
4:55 - Chapter 1 - Giants throughtout history
20:45 - Chapter 2 - Slightly more recent giant news
28:40 - Chapter 3 - One giant cover up
37:55 - Chapter 4 - Giant conclusion
You continue to do the Good Work. Thank you!
Hahaha . " Is this backstory canon?" The old testament is crazy & could definitely do with an editor. Thanks man lovin yr work.
Brilliant, so glad I discovered Simon on YT, he makes me roll and his skeptisim aligns precisely with my own, it's a breath of fresh air. The podcast is so good on long boring car journies too. Thanks!
One of your best episodes. You had a pop at religion, science, and odd balls. Thank you.
He left out the biggest part. Oxygen levels were significantly higher during the age of the dinosaurs and everything WAS actually larger. This myth is clearly based on a misinterpretation of fossil record.
Greek mythology contains Giants, as well as Titans. One of the Giants, Engeladus is buried under Mt Aetna of Sicily. Any time he gets restless, the volcano is stirred.
Imagine someone like an NBA player visiting some African pygmies, he would literally be a real mythical giant to them, they would make stories about him and he would turn into a legend, probably years later it would be exaggerated that he was as tall as a tree etc
Thats why we don't take ancient myths seriously.
I've come to respect the Sling, though I prefer the Staff Sling, myself... If you've ever even practiced to a degree to get any useful skill out of it, I can promise you David didn't have to kill Goliath by other means unless that was ONE HELL of a helmet he was wearing.
A wicked little bit of strap and a leather pouch can add a HUGE mechanical advantage to the speed of a thrown rock. You can build one relatively cheaply, even if you prefer to use cloth rather than leather (though it won't last as long if you do)... so don't just take my word for it. Fair warning, there's quite a bit of work ahead of you getting any useful skill out of it. They're difficult (or I'm inept)... SO there has to be pay-off to bothering not only to make them, but to use them. Ancients weren't stupid. ;o)
7 feet tall person, back then would be called a giant, which started the entire myth about them. They were based off of real people. They were very tall and were called Giants.
@@chinemeremohaeri9100 rhapsody why there's a kernel of truth in every ledgend. It's the listeners fault if they can't tell the difference between the story and the details.
@@gnarthdarkanen7464 theres a story about a missionary telling some tribals the story of david and golaith. Supposedly they said "what a fool! He went against a slinger!"
Came here from Spotify just to figure out what all the damn popping sounds are about. Simon, when the memes are sufficiently dank, they don't need sound effects.
Guy at work saw a good sized bull snake. The next day I heard him telling someone that it was 8ft long. The longest bull snake ever recorded was 8.5ft. it took less than 24 hours and the original witness to make that jump.
Simon's comment about his daughter being afraid of Peppa Pig had me laughing. At 1 1/2 yr old, my son was obsessed with Freddy Krueger. He never liked kiddie shows. Thank goodness! By 3 yr old, he'd seen all the horror classics. He would tell people " Don't worry, it's not real & I'm going be with you so you won't get scared". :)
I live a few towns over from Robert Wadlows home. A shoe store in my town made shoes for him and they had a pair of his shoes in their window. They were huge.
What size did he wear?
i am almost 5'2 inches tall. my son is 6'5. from my point of view, a lot of y'all are giants.
🤣🤣🤣 I am watching on my laptop, and we sip our coffee together, and I laugh with him and would really like to comment sometimes, as in having a real conversation. It feels like I am sharing the desk with him! 😁
By the way, Simon's right about his hunch on the biblical Nephilim not being literal giants. The word itself is often translated as "giant", but it might be more accurate to say they were demigods of sorts, being the children of male angels (not gods themselves but comparable for our purposes), and human women. And so the children of those parents would be demigods, aka "men of renown".
And that's not even touching on the belief that Judaism (and Christianity by extension) was likely polytheistic at the start and morphed into monotheism by the time Christianity comes around, so some believe that the Nephilim were actually other gods aside from Big G himself, and not just angels under him.
I love the "they said the burial mounds were there before them!" like you didnt just go into a village and ask who made the graveyard. "i dont know, it was there when I got here" does not mean it predates the dude's entire ethnicity lmao. When a feature or structure is so old that it is part of the land scape (doubly so for Mississippian mounds), the telling of who is kind of lost in the oral history. There has only ever been one group of people in the local area, and if it's thousands of years old, asking a villager where it came from is like asking them where the mountains came from. "Someone probably built it, man, idk."
Another interesting angle is the energy intake(food) and getting rid of excess body heat. Those might be a problem if you are one of those bigger giants.
The apocrypha Book of Enoch goes into more detail about the nephilim which, that holds, were the offspring of humans and the Grigori (the Watchers) choir of angels. They fell from grace because they wanted to take humans as mates.
Fun trivia: the Nephilim are also depicted in an etching on the hilt of the sword Beowulf uses to slay Grendel's mother as being wiped out by The Flood in a translation of Beowulf. If this appearance seems odd (esp. since abrahamic religions wouldn't spread out to nordic regions for a few hundred years after Beowulf was first told), it helps to understand that a Christian monk was responsible for writing down the first copies we have to work from today.
Why do I enjoy her scripts so much they lead you on then tug you back in. It's great.
So Simon, In your new channel Predicting The Future will you be telling us when we get flying cars?
We got em
Starting at 200k
maybe Simon should do something on the theory that Dinosaurs were not as old as claimed and they are actualy Dragons of old 🤣I heard this claim years ago and although I havent heard it seriously suggested for a long time, it sometimes pops back into my head whenever I see or read something like this story on giants, but then again, what if ? 🤣
When a Knight won his spurs..
Before the word Dinosaur was invented, the fossils dug up were called "dragon's bones". Fossils are still called dragon bones in China.
@@joshuarichardson6529 Wow, that's interesting!
I've always thought the same thing. When I was talking about it with a friend they told me that for an animal to be considered a dragon it has to be a reptile with wings and must breathe fire.
Upon googling I did find that there was that there was a dinosaur, PTEROSAUR, that looks like a giant bird but it's considered a reptile. Its wings do not have feathers. They are covered in skin, kind of like a bat. When they are walking on land and they bend their wings back and up and walk on something that resembles a hand at the elbow joint. Some species can grow to be tall as a giraffe. I hope you are able to somewhat imagine what I described. LOL! They are referred to as a 'Giant Reptilian Stork' dinosaur. You should totally Google it if that kind of stuff interests you. They are freaky looking, definitely not a typical dinosaur. It would be fascinating to see it in real life but I have a feeling they would be predators to humans. 😵😵😵
Have you ever seen a dragon AND a dinosaur in the same room.
The Valiant Little Tailor is most known for a Mickey Mouse adaptation.
The rough outline of the plot is that there's a giant terrorising the kingdom, and the king sends out his knights to find someone who can kill giants. As they're discussing this, the knights overhear the local tailor boasting that he "killed seven with one blow."
They think he meant giants. He actually meant flies.
So they cart him off to the castle and the tailor hasn't got the nerve to correct anyone and instead tries to play it off as demanding an exorbitant fee for the service, hoping to basically haggle the king out of asking him. The king then offers his daughter, and the tailor decides to do it because boners.
Anyway he kills the giant with trickery and marries the princess, the end.
You've got it! 🙂👍
There's also Jack the Giant-killer from English folklore. (Not the same as Jack and the Beanstalk.) He's another trickster figure who defeats giants.
It’s in the Grimm fairy tails.
@@jannetteberends8730 I knew that! 🙂👍
Lol, not remotely true. Grow up.
Anyone else see the picture of Arnold Schwarzenegger next to Wilt Chamberlin and Andre the Giant? Arnie is 6'2", and he looks tiny next to 7 feet tall guys. Imagine a 5'2" guy fighting guys over 7'. They would look like giants, just not 30-foot giants.
I really enjoy the episode focusing on monsters and beasties, and if I'm remembering correctly, Katie does most of the scripts for them
When I was 3, maybe 4, my two older brothers dug out a 6 foot long footprint and showed it to me. they were trying to convince me that real giants still roamed the Earth.
lmfaooo
There were real giants within history.
@@maxamahnken7325 "The Old Testament" and "The Book of Mormon" both mention giants. I don't know about historical texts. What I do know is that if any remains of giants have been found, somebody is going to a lot of trouble to keep it from being anything more than a conspiracy theory.
As a nerd, I have to point out that giants in Norse mythology is mostly based on poor translations of the word Jotunn, since they were not especially large. Probably better described kinda like anti-aesir? More the opposite of the Aesir who were bringing order and the Jotunn were bringing chaos
Doesn't that literally translate to giant?
@@richbroadhead8814 not really. They are like the aesir and look similar to aesir, and honestly some of the aesir are part jotunn. Like Odin or Loki. They are more like a different family/tribe group, but even that isn't clear cut since the aesir and jotunn have had kids together. Many academics don't even translate the term jotunn anymore in academic works, but anglicize it to jotunn(ar) and leave it at that, since the "giant" translation has done nothing to cause confusions and misunderstandings
I feel like the word "giants" referenced is very metaphorical. Literally, a giant is a large, intimidating, overwhelmingly powerful and destructive figure. The same could be said about a tall modern man with anger management issues holding a machete or something. For example to look at eyes of someone from very close distance, close enough to give you a hug, who is 4 inches or about 10cm taller than you is enough to make you raise your head as if you are looking at a giant. Give him a large body, a long unattented beard, black eyes and rough clothes who is glaring at you, it's enough to make you feel very intimidated and very cautious of him, let alone if he carries a weapon like a knife or, worse, something larger.
The metaphorical meaning should be something similar to the literal meaning: a large, intimidating, overwhelmingly powerful, and optionally destructive, "something". The reason we call some corporations as "giants" is not only because of their actual size but also, the influence and power they have making them very intimidating to go against.
What ancient phrases have taught me, whether they sound real or not, is that they always have a meaning behind them. Most of the times, they were not created for no reason. Something must have influenced their creation.
I am tempted to read the Genesis just to find all these fantasies and find if there is a hidden meaning behind them.
For example Eve was created from Adam's ribs. A meaning that could attach to that phrase is (after a Google search: The rib cage help protects the organs in the chest, such as the heart and lungs, from damage, so,) that Eve, who represents females that can become wifes and life long companions, are meant to protect the feelings (heart) and assist their housebands when they are facing mental troubles (protect from/help relief pressure).
The apple is, of course, sin, which could range from anything like lying to taking someone's life, and the snake is our inner demon/temptation that will push us into commiting that sin. When Adam and Eve ate that apple meant that they commited an unforgivable sin, not have sex as it is implied, and god forced them out of paradise, or "the garden" because of it.
Yeah, you really need to read genesis. Your understanding of what is written there is very misinformed.
I mean, we found literal hobbits in the fossil record. A branch of humanity evolving to be taller then average, more likely during the Ice Age, and our ancestors just remembering them as being bigger then they actually were.
not literal hobbits but a species of hominid that was just small. probably from being isolated in a place with less food. so they descrease in size over generations. these also loved long before the ice age. and probably evolved from homo erectus hundreds of thousands of years ago
We have skme suggestion through aboriginal australians that Denisovan Humans were maybe quite tall.
But weve never found an intact full specimen
@@Sgt.chickens aborigines from Australia are tall?
@@AlekseyMaksimovichPeshkov Not all groups but people in Australia in general appear to become quite Lanky. Have met many very tall Aboriginal aussies.
15:05 that alien twerking got me 😂😂😂
Former Christian here: Uh, nope. It’s real to people. The basic explanation is that all that magic stuff doesn’t happen nowadays because we’re in some kind of era of little to no divine communication. That’s the gist of it, but Young Earth Creationists are very real, and I’d venture to say most (if not all) Christians think the Old Testament is history.
Can concur as someone who grew up in fundamentalist Baptist culture. My whole family still believes that every word of the Bible is divine.
I think that's salience more than stats. My tiny home town has dozens of churches. We all remember the snake handling fire walking ones. One has to work to remember the calm, quiet ones.
When women were given testosterone they became more skeptical than before and when old men were given testosterone they became LESS religious, not more which would explain why women generally are more religious than men
Some guy like Andre the Giant would have been pretty intimidating on the battlefield, I have to say.
AND two of the most skillful LIARS are soldiers and sailors. If they're talking, about 80 or 90% of it is utterly crap...
So much for "witness testimony". ;o)
the interesting aspect of human history, is that anytime before 10-15,000yrs, we have little to no knowledge on what was happening. every myth and legend always has some grain of 'truth' behind them. in regards to 'giants' the avg height of a person was around 5'5. so anyone above that, though uncommon, could have been considered as 'giants'
We’ve been biologically virtually the exact same for 300,000 years. Think about how many INSANE things could have happened during that time that we just don’t know about anymore
Exactly. Take the height of the figure on the Shroud of Turin. It has been estimated that the figure is in the range of 5’7” and 6’2”. The tallest person in my family was between 6’6” and 6’8”. He lived during the late 19th/early 20th century so if the average male height was 5’5” or 5’6” in the ancient period then that means that Goliath, if he did exist, was probably taller than the average Israelite thanks to a diet rich in protein and good genes.
The fact that there was a person who was way taller than average in my family is funny considering my grandpa (dad’s dad) was 5’10”, the same height as my mom which means that after grandpa was born all subsequent men born into the family didn’t inherit the gene(s) for being taller than 6’2”. I don’t know why there was a shrinkage in height, genetics are weird like that.
The remains found across America throughout history were all 7 to 9 feet. You can read native Americans accounts of them warring with them.
“Just regular sized elephants that do war” best shit I’ve heard 😂
I think it’s more believable that these average size humans in North Africa encountered another group from the upper Nile of taller people like the Assai or medja: known to be very tall. Also, I believe they had crazy imaginations back then.
Haha they had crazy imaginations because they had SO many drugs
My brother worked a year in Japan in the sixties. There is a picture of him walking in a crowd of people. Being 2 meter he really looks like a giant.
My family is currently living in Japan, and my husband is 6' 2". We stand out wherever we go. Lol. I can always find him in a crowd and it makes life so much easier.
i was in portugal years ago. i was like 10 years old but as a dutch person i was still taller than most portugese women😅.
You know you're old, when you remember a time when the History Channel had shows about actual history.
Now it's the hitlery channel
As someone that read the bible in Hebrew (so no translation problem) it's not exactly giants... It's nephilim, which later was understood us giants but it is a more modern idea.
A lot of the stories are... Weird but there is archeological evidence that correlate some of them, it's depends on the book (the bible have three distinct parts, some are less crazy like kings which is mostly just the list of kings that is known for a fact did exist).
The “sons of god” bit is undoubtedly referring to “Elohim” ie the lesser gods of Jewish mythology
I live near Cardiff NY and I can confirm the Giant story is still a popular one and some people actually still believe it despite the background being known.
Watching this series, I've come realize Simon really doesn't know anything. Which is absolutely amazing. He's a pretty good actor who embraced his appearance to host a series of nerdy youtube channels, but off the cuff it's pretty amazing.
I can't fault anyone for not believing the Bible. but at the same time understand the Bible represents millenia old literature that was quasi required and influential for many important literary figures across Europe and in English specifically. Shakespeare has biblical reference, Sir Isaac Newton wrote more books on Christian mysticism than he ever did Calculus, Dr Martin Luther King Jr was a Baptist pastor who's speech style is reminiscent of Paul and the other Epistles in the New Testament. His final speech literally references Moses looking out from a mountaintop before he died seeing the Promised Land, and King would die hours after that speech. So mock it for is beliefs, just recognize the literary importance.
Its a book that caries forward storytelling and literary traditions from millenia. For example the story of Moses follows an archetypal Hero's Journey, but it itself builds on the well know story of the era of King Sargon of the Akkadians, one of the first recorded empires in the world, or at least the middle east. Like how fascinating is that.
Also while the King James bible is well regarded, there are plenty of easier to read translations. ISV and ESV are common, but it's rather quick to do wikipedia searches to see the translation goals and efficacy and controveries. I've gone to the point of translating things word by word before, and look into multiple translation to get the best gist of a given passage.,
You need to show your kids watership down. Bring them up with the normal kids films we had.
Are you kidding? That film gave me lifelong rabbitphobia 🐇 😳
You are evil and I love you x
Lmao that movie was depressing AF
I saw the (original) animated movie as a little kid, read the book in 5th grade and at least 5 times again since then. My all-time favorite book.
Ah man… terribly depressing wasn’t it?
Simon can you do an episode on whether or not birds are real? Surely they can't be, right?
They're government spy drones, obviously. I think Simon would really benefit from learning about the truth behind "birds".
@@alanareid3747 Don't type that comment so loud, the birds will hear you.
The Rick and Morty fan in me must quote "In Bird culture, this is considered a dick move."
Actually it's the greatest cover up out there, bigger than Area 51, the staged moon landing and Elvis faking his death, all true btw. Not to be confused with obviously fake Qanon conspiracy theories like lizard people, the resurrection of John Jr. and the stolen election. Yes some people point to chickens as proof that birds are real but those are birds in captivity and represent the last real birds on Earth. The birds you see at your typical backyard bird feeder are Aviandroids.
Birds aren't real...they are avian dinosaurs.
Simon, may I suggest the New Living Translation (NLT) for future videos? I find it much easier to read as it is in modern English, but the translators went back to the original Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek texts and any time there was a disagreement in the translation, they pulled in more experts until an agreement was made.
Still only loosely based on real events & belongs in the fiction section...
When I was younger there used to be a lot of Sideshow attractions that would go down to town and show off weird Oddities and some of these shows would have these giant skeletons there was a museum and a small town near me that had three of them in their collection that you could just walk in and see up until 1987 and then for some reason they were taken down and put in storage and since then has been lost but I remember clearly seeing these remains with my own two eyes
Hey- nice! I have also had a good look at a giant skeleton in a museum in Interlaken, Switzerland (you can see photos of it online if anyone wants to look it up), and a 1metre long human thigh bone (museum in Colorado), and so, I've seen those- with my own two eyes also! :) Our eyes know and that's all that matters ;)
Only about 18 mins in so don't know if it's talked about later but there is the account of the Afgan giant by the US military patrol that encounter it/him
Why do I get the feeling that someone was very proud of himself for knowing the story of Jack and the bean stalk.
Simon the book about the little tailor is called 7 At One Blow, my dad read it to me as a kid, an AWESOME story.
yeah, one of my favourite stories as a kid, because I loved jam. (loved porridge too, that's why the magic porridge pot was my favourite)
I remember that story, I might have to look that up sometime.
It probably depends on location. I live in eastern Europe and it was indeed called The Brave Little Tailor here. I'm actually surprised Simon doesn't know it, I'm around the same age as him and it was very popular in the 90s when we were growing up.
Mormon here. (Apparently rare to be a Mormon and Simon Whistler follower on all his channels, but ya know)
I think there are quite a few people who take the bible literally, but In my experience the majority take it much less literally, and view it as a book with some good lessons, but translated many times by many different people. This may be more common in LDS circles then elsewhere though.
The phrase "as far as it is translated correctly" comes to mind.
Love the show as always Simon!
thats odly reasonable for a mormon. usually you guys are the craziest literallistic christians out there. next to JW's. its awesome to see there are some that can see the horrible and wrong things in scripture
Can I ask an honest question as someone relatively ignorant to Mormonism?
You clearly recognize that the Bible has been translated and rewritten and edited several hundreds of times over thousands of years.
By following the most recent of these translations, wouldn't it reason that your interpretation is the most altered and furthest from the original work?
@@joeblow8982 ask away -
We use the king James version (which I believe is the most common version?), and believe it to be correct as far as it's translated correctly. We do have parts that have additional notes and, and compiled in the Joseph Smith translation. Not a complete rewrite, but what we believe to be an improved translation under the guidance of God. That guidance or revelation is what we believe to be the key. This is a longer conversation then RUclips comments are conducive to, but there is the TL;DR
@themightymoose5047 I honestly appreciate the response. I wasn't intending to attack your faith in any way, its just something that I wondered while reading your comment and I don't know any Mormons in real life so this seemed like a good opportunity to play "ask a Mormon". 😆 I now have a better understanding of why and what Mormons believe, and I have to thank you for that. I appreciate you not taking offense and giving an honest answer to what feels like a difficult question! Respect brother!
@@joeblow8982 anytime! I didn't feel attacked at all, I appreciate the legitimate and respectful question! Happy to talk about stuff anytime.
goddamn, i really do appreciate your blunt and relatable demeanor, please continue your youtube endeavors, nigga
Yes they did. From 1890 to 1957 the New York Giants played in the National League.
Something I find really surprising is that even a 2022 forensic anthropologist cannot give a precise height of a deceased person, from their fully skeletized remains. Apparently there is a considerable range of how thick cartilage between bones can be from person to person, and other little things that can add up. The best they can do is give a 3-inch height range, not bad I guess but it still surprises me, compared to how much you can learn from a few of the person's hairs or skin cells!
All that ^ to frame the question: how the heck can we take a 1930's farmer's word for how tall one of the people in the grave was?
true, but some cases the entire skeleton was said to be seen and they could tell how big it was from that, and also scientists from those times also saw these too and determined it
I always knew Simon was in the pocket for Big Giant, and this video proves it. :D
Love the video.
There’s a burial mound in my state, the skeleton in the middle was originally measured at around 8ft tall. This gave rise to a lot of giant stories. Unfortunately it was a field measurement which doesn’t take into account bone separation. He was probably closer to 6 or 6 1/2 feet.
That’s a tall human! What state?
@@LillibitOfHere West Virginia
Criel Mound in South Charleston if I’m remembering right.
That is tall. Is there any estimation for when the burial mound was made? Because if it’s from the pre-Columbian period then the person might have been a highly regarded figure in their community. I remember seeing a program in which it was said that the bones of a Native American man from the Colonial period was measured at 5’7” which is my height so if he was 6’0” then he probably was of a high rank.
@@mirandagoldstine8548 I’ve seen estimates ranging from 1000 bce to 150 bce for a build date.
There were a dozen-ish average height bodies arranged around the tall guy in the middle.
I was today years old when I had the big brain moment of realizing that the name of this series is referring to cold reading the scripts, not whatever the scripts themselves contained.
You are literally Decoding (cold reading) the Unknown (the contents of the script you haven't read before). It took me watching about 10 of these before I realized what it all meant.
I always imagined Goliath was like 6'8 to 7'4 - absolutely massive for his age - and brawny, while David was like 5'2 like most men were during the late bronze age were. Seems reasonable given we have evidence that there was a king named "David" from that time period which fits the Bible's story.
It's very interesting how going to religious school almost invariably turns people in "free" societies into sceptics. I only put "free" in quotes because I'm quite convinced that free will doesn't (and cannot) exist... but that's a discussion for Simon's psychology/neurology channel when it comes along.
depends on what is meant with free will. do we make choices,yes. are those choices pre determined in some way by experience etc. i think so. thats whyni think there is some free will, but its mostly an illusion
Hey religion is important for women: it makes them more feminine and less toxic. Studies show that when given testosterone old men became less religious and it’s just a statistical fact that women are more religious than men. So whereas I don’t think MEN should be religious or believe in paranormal/conspiracy crap (in fact I think it’s quite pathetic especially for a man) I think it’s fine In women, in fact I think it’s kind of cute
I loved to buy the World News at the airport news shop prior to flights (2000-2010). My wife would groan because I would look at articles and exclaim to her about all the amazing stuff they uncovered! Of course this was stagecraft for my captive audience around me. The looks I got were wonderful. Drove her nuts.
That's some evil shit right there...... I would do the same tbh
I love it!
The elephants Hannibal used to cross the Alps, have since gone extinct. They were bigger than modern elephants.
far out
@@thedudegrowsfood284 just watched a video about it last night.
They were smaller, not larger, if you're referring to Northern African (aka Carthaginian) elephants. There's historic documentation of their size, they were about the size of African Forest elephants.
@@laurendisney Here's my source. ruclips.net/video/L8lkZgWNA-8/видео.html
@@laurendisney he's making a small confusion. It's not Hannibal's elephants. It's Hannibal's last elephant to survive the trip(tho I've also seen it said that it was his personal elephant), Surus, which some historians believe was the last living Syrian elephant. They were indeed very large.
Search for Lost Giants was actually a pretty interesting show. These guys who think they've found something interesting go across the country to study other ancient giant stories, and ultimately decide that they don't want to repeat the mistakes of past adventure-archeologists and don't excavate the site without the backing of the scientific community. It's a good reminder that real science isn't about finding things, it's about doing it right. I think Simon would actually appreciate the amount of healthy skepticism they stick to.
Many sections of the Old Testament simply interleave different versions of the same story. Sometimes reading it one feels like, 'Oh! The first version wasn't werid enough that it needed to be even crazier? Then you get to Judges and, well, there's something like seven different stories that are roughly the same plot, different names, many thousands of people die.
I heard somewhere that the scripture we have now is the result of multiple mythologies that got combined. Like how the stories of Moses and Abraham have different origins. And for most of biblical history the area was split between different kingdoms, which probably had their own stories, and after they came together, the scripture also came together.
The first ship to arrive on Easter Island reported that their was two races of people who inhabited the island. One being the race that is still there, the being a race of giants. The giants were said to be the leaders. Only 50 years later the second expedition found that all the giants were gone .
People were a lot shorter back in the days of David and Goliath. So of David was 5' tall and Goliath was 6'5... He'd seem like a giant. Also, the writers of "history" back then were also poets and artists. Exaggeration and flat out Fabrication were pretty common.
Thats by far the most sensible view. Simon then mentioned it was after Noah and my first thought was David and Goliath are related. Haha
@@chrissyboy7047 To be fair, I wrote that before I got to the part where he basically said the same thing.
@@OrdinaryDude all good. I replied before he said it too. Lol
@@chrissyboy7047 well, that and the fact it's an old folktale about a pseudohistorical figure.
How is it that Simon said the phrases money spinner and touchstones and then shortly after these phrases appeared in the script?
"...Come, and Activate!..."
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New finishing quote*
Thanks, Simon. ✌😅
Noooooo Simon! Clockwork Orange is FINE as it is! I read it as a teenager and always loved how it's so hard at the start, then you get used to it and at the end when everything is written normally, THAT feels foreign. It made me think how easy it is to get sucked into things that change our perception of what "normal" is!
The Bible on the other hand does need some working on. I agree on that point 😅 I think there's some chav slang version that David Mitchell ABHORS pahaha
If that's Simon's reaction to clockwork orange, I'd LOVE to see him read naked lunch 😂
@@Lunch_Meat or Requiem for a Dream 😅 that thing had random punctuation all over the place, I was so confused!
@@bondickle I'm a fan of crazy punctuation since I read so much poetry, but I agree with you that requiem for a dream gets crazy. I blame James Joyce for that trend
23:40 I remember watching some Discovery/History Channel re-run about Nazi super weapons, and in that episode they talked about the German occupation of the Channel Islands during WWII. The whole hour-long episode built up how the Germans had placed unused battleship guns and elaborate spotting towers all over the island in preparation for the inevitable counter-attack, and all of the crazy lengths they went to to try and keep them secret. Finally, in the final five minutes of the episode, they revealed how the Allies were able to overcome these seemingly insurmountable fortifications; they didn't. They just...sailed around the islands and left them there, cut off from German supplies and reinforcements, for like, a year. I think I genuinely laughed at the reveal, and was actually impressed by their commitment to dragging the viewer along.
Apparently, the Channel Island locals were somehow feeding intel to the British in secret, and the lack of anti-air defenses meant spy planes could effortlessly canvas the island even in broad daylight. The British knew every single detail about the German defenses, to the point that once the Allies had cut the islands off the occasional British warship would steam close to shore, right inside the blind spots of the guns, and fire off a volley over the islands just to taunt the Germans.
Great writing as always from Katie! But no coverage of contemporary reports of giants in the mountains of Afghanistan. Multiple(obviously unconfirmed reports) of Giants from the US military. Both army and marines. Not a believer myself but I find these reports particularly fascinating!
I WAS GONNA SAY why didn't she write anything about the Kandahar Giant?
@@damage_inc86425 exactly! And Gerald yes I get it could be any number of things, the helicopter pilot was almost certainly not on any kind of drugs though.
What about Shaq? I mean technically he is a giant.
@@vargasbryce The helicopter pilot wasn't on any type of drugs because the helicopter pilot doesn't exist. The video was made by a guy who regularly tries to "prove" that the Bible is factually correct and has created previous fantastical stories.
Depending how you define "giant" is exactly what I keep telling people. They're all "we found bones of people of people 7-9 feet tall though!", okay, but the tallest man alive today is over 8 feet tall.. so we know that's an attainable height..
i agree. because the 7-8 footers of which there were thousands of reports of up until the mid 1900s, one of which was a 36 inch circumference skull which smithsonian found which is nearly 2 times the circumference of a normal human skull at 22 inches, and also them in abundance having double rows of teeth which the scientific american said, and also while this skeleton is a news report it shows up in 2 news articles 1 when it was discovered and the 2nd 6 months later being put in the back of a van to get taken to the smithsonian which i think gives it decent credibility, a 7 foot 5 skeleton which had 26 inch shoulders which is 1 inch wider than peak ronnie coleman, i think means that these skeletons which were being found were straight up built different.
theres countless news reports of 10-14 footers too, but thats when the evidence starts to not be firm
To explain the Israelire scouts in Numbers, as other commenters hace explained other bits and pieces - the scouts were basically exaggerating because they were scared of the Canaanites, they said they'd seen Nephilim in regards to probably strong Canaanites. They were also punished for this to add the context of 'there weren't literally giants'
Dude I am cracking up. I feel like simon. Was in Christian school for 10 years before I was sent to public schools. I have forgotten more about that mythology book than anything despite Bible being taught and drilled in my head from 8 am to 930 am every single morning until i was 13. I get it
Dude - i was SENT to xtian school for 10th grade for being wild and evil. Got laid.
Simon: “What’s the definition bestiality?”
Me: “Sounds like we know what script Simon will be commissioning next.”