The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (Dead Meat Podcast #53)
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- James and Chelsea do a deep-dive analysis of Chelsea's favorite horror film to accompany the start of the TCM Kill Count series.
Sources:
The American Nightmare: Horror in the 70s - Robin Wood
The Idea of Apocalypse in The Texas Chainsaw Massacre - Christopher Sharrett
Cannibalistic Capitalism and Other American Delicacies: A Bataillean Taste of The Texas Chain Saw Massacre - Naomi Merritt
Subversive Horror Cinema - Jon Towlson
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I have to give it to Chelsea because she always brings up alternative perspectives, themes, and interpretations that I've never picked up on in movies I've seen hundreds of times.
Chelsea please don't ever feel you need to apologise for the podcast being academic and research based. That's what makes it so fantastic! Your deeper, more analytical episodes are my favourite part of this whole channel and I find them so incredibly engaging. They are truly the reason I recommend Dead Meat to people!
Shout out to Chelsea and all the time and energy she put into gathering all that research!! 👍👍👍 Very informative/thoughtful 👍👍👍
boytoy namedtroy she also has great shirts
Honestly! Her intelligence, drive, and passion shine in every podcast. She loves what she does and makes us love it too.
She's amazing
I do like all the work Chelsea put into this but she got the Texas chainsaw massacre being based ed gein wrong.
Exactly. She is a pro for sure.
Sweet an added Podcast to go with the upcoming Kill-Count, love the first two TCM films, the rest are hit or miss (the original remake being a hit for me). Excited to see your recaps/Kill Counts :)
You did a really cool job doing the evolution of leatherface I love your animation.
I subscribed
I watch you alot!
i know im 2 years late and your not going to see this comment but i really like the original as well as leatherface but that could just be that i like origin stories as well as the twist as well
For me the first 2 movies are great and the rest is terrible (no offence though, it’s only my opinion).
These podcasts compliment the Kill Count series so well! The incredible research and thoughtful discussions are sincerely appreciated. I've learned more from these episodes than I have from my university film classes ... without accumulating more student debt. I hope you're able to withstand any economic pressures to forego the academic angle and transform into fluff sessions. Thanks so much!
2017:where’s Texas Chainsaw
2019:ah it’s about time
Yessss
My favorite circle in the film is that everything went wrong when they picked up the insane hitchhiker and the film ends by a person picking her up (as a hitchhiker) who is also unstable which made me feel really worried that she was going to go crazy on the person who picked her up.
In the extended intro clips from movies that haven't been covered (The Shining, Carrie, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Lost Boys, The VVitch, and American Psycho) have for the longest time outnumbered clips from movies that have been covered (Friday The 13th, Get Out, The Thing, Nightmare on Elm Street, and Night of the Living Dead) by a score of 6-5.
As of today Texas Chainsaw Massacre evens the numbers to 5-5.
Love this factoid
@@DeadMeat Love this channel.
Yep
Now only 2 left to be covered
Now it be 9 to 2 with the Lost boys and American psycho being the only ones not covered yet. Lost boys does have 2 sequels and American psycho has 1 as far as i know. So they're not one offs.
"The 70's, in that time, must have really felt like an apocalypse in action". *2020 has entered the chat*
We bouta get some wild horror then hopefully
@@NotAGraveRobber i really hope so
I’m commenting this from 2022 and it hasn’t gotten better
@@r3se7ved18 2023, not getting any better.
@@n0tk0sher2024 just started 4 days ago and so far it’s… okay. Couldn’t get much worse than the hell that was 2023.
WhEn ArE YoU DoInG TeXaS ChAiNsAW MaSsAcrE?
2017-2019 RIP
Wasabi Samurai Rest in unrest
You will forever remain in our hearts
I'm so happy I fell down the rabbit hole of that is this channel.
i was already super excited for the chainsaw kill count, but this podcast was so interesting and especially got me interested in next weeks! chelsea put in some incredible effort for this!
claire im gonna beat the frick out of u
"Just because you have a family doesn't mean you're good."
-James A. Janisse
29:04
I would just run faster than the flash if someone ran at me with a chainsaw
And not trip
-4 Subscribers with a hammer addiction I think it’s time to update your username🤣
-4 Subscribers with a hammer addiction and then there is me who would die because I would trip over my shoelace or climb a tree and the branch snaps
No you wouldn't.
-4 Subscribers with a hammer addiction “and not trip”
The last little tidbit made my day lmao
I always described TCM as a visualized panic attack. It's one of my favorite movies ever.
i absolutely LOVE Chelsea's shirt "when it comes to chain saws ask the pro" SO PERFECT XD
Kobbra 2004 *ASK *A *PRO. Get it right next time
Kobbra 2004 *When
It was spelled correctly on the shirt...
Spelling of the year
The rest of the shirt is literally an ad for the chainsaw, it’s a badass shirt lol
But my thoughts on the ending, acdemically knowing the interpretation of the film as a refection of America's time in history, Sally is the youth of the country, the future of America, having escaped the darkness but never able to forget, for better or worse. And the Sawyers still remain, in the shadows, the secret darkness in our world we know is out there, but hope we never encounter again.
Wait it was? That’s upsetting
I like men
I KNOW RIGHT XDDD
I was expecting the podcast two days ago and I got trolled
its okay its tommorrow :>
Jonah Proulx me too
Well,
Maybe you should slow tf down and read buddy.
Chelsea's clear passion for this film really shows. It makes it so fun to watch and listen to. 😊
Texas Chainsaw is a classic, I love it. Interesting stuff!
horror films should could from a real place and not just be simple morality tales of like don't under age drink drive smoke weed and have pre marital sex and stupid shit like they always tend to be about...like the chucky series...wtf is that?...who decided to make sequels to a bland film about a killer doll...why?...what does it teach?..nothing..its just death for no reason..i get making the first one for novelty but after that just stop...
Did you know...the working title if the film was "Headcheese".
@@bobz1782 Headcheese was the working title for The Texas Chain Saw Massacre. The name fits (just try researching how headcheese is made, and Nubban [aka The Hitchhiker] in the first movie said his brother makes the best headcheese), but I doubt we would be talking about this amazing movie if it still had that name, let alone the sequels.
Yup,forgot that
I had no idea the Texas *Chainsaw Massacre* lore was so *deep* and *controversial* . You guys could write VOLUMES of HORROR HISTORY BOOKS. I would love to see *James & Chelsea in print.*
Or hear them in an audio version :)
I just discovered this channel two or three days ago and now I'm addicted to it! It's phenomenal. I can't even begin to imagine all the hard labour that's involved to do something like this, but it's so worth it! Keep up the great work.
25:18 *"We are all having a collective nightmare together"*
That's pretty dope, never thought of it like that
I absolutely love this series, thanks so much for covering it!
Shoutout to Chelsea for always being bomb and going all in on everything she does with the podcast! You’re so appreciated!
omg!!! I'm *so excited* for Texas chainsaw massacre kill count
also james' hair is lookin fabulous today 👌👍
Edit: well tickle me pink that's a lot of likes thanks mates 👌
IKR! She’s a very lucky woman.
@@ashmondthesoutherntrashmon2210 yep
Today or always
@@crackedrobin4626 always but today its looking on fleek 👌
He kind of has the same hair cut
Hearing Chelsea talk about America in the 70s sounds like someone talking about the world in 2020
The idea about horror movies representing ‘collective nightmares’ around the 25 minute mark is soooo interesting! Great episode.
Coincidence I had a nightmare about the Texas chainsaw massacre last night?
Probably yes
so i recently came across fighting game youtuber maximilian dood and was sucked in by the mortal kombat games as a result. i thought leatherface was kinda neat and watched some combo videos, and then had a video showing all the deaths from the movies. i was like, "hey, im sure James mustve made a kill count on this series", and was surprised to find nothing other than a video from 7 months ago about upcoming kill counts and it had jason and leatherface silhouettes in the thumbnail and thought to give up and just wait. turns out i only waited 3 days haha.
Yoshiko Tsushima interesting
Every time I watch this movie I now feel compelled to stick on this pod straight after, to immediately reinforce and enrich my appreciation of it. Such a great touchpoint for all the underlying themes
I keep finding myself coming back to this episode to re-watch/listen to. Chelsea did such a fantastic job with the research and sounds so passionate! Thank you for all the hard work that went into this one :)
Okay I love the killcounts so much they're great overviews of the movies with awesome insight and funny commentary throughout, but I REALLY love these podcasts. Chelsea puts so much time and effort into creating an educated dialogue about each and every subject and it's always to fascinating to hear what you guys have to say. This episode especially felt like a real labor of love and Chelsea's passion for this movie really shines throughout. You guys help make the horror genre accessible for people who otherwise might not give it a second glance.
After listening to this episode I have SOOO many thoughts about the movie!
You guys mentioned that Texas Chainsaw Massacre is considered one of the most iconic slasher films out there, despite the fact that is really doesn't have a lot of blood/gore. This couldn't have been intentional because you can't really control how the audience responds to a film, especially years after its release, but I think there's an interesting parallel to be made with the response/status of this movie and the image of America as a whole. There's a large demographic that views certain eras of America as "the golden years" when in reality it was only golden for a very specific demographic (white, straight, male, etc.), that demographic then choosing to ignore the other social/political movements that occurred at that time. And in the same way there's a large population that remembers or considers this movie as a violent slasher when in reality the horror is only the top layer of a film focused on social/political commentary.
Also!! Near the end of the podcast you also theorized about whether or not Sally and Franklin might have met the Sawyers when they were younger (since their houses were literally right next to each other). I think that could be a metaphor for how white suburban society has a tendency to turn a blind eye to any Wrongness or disfunctionality within their neighborhood. Domestic violence and child abuse was happening all the time during that era and so many people choose to ignore it because it would be inconvenient for them to take responsibility for something bad happening in their own backyard.
ANYWAY!
I love this podcast so much. It keeps me company at work and I always look forward to hearing what you guys have to say. Thank you so much for your passion and wisdom!
Just watched this movie yesterday. 10/10 would recommend
Remake is better
@@tcooper469 nah, the remakes were pretty good but nothing beats the original
@@tcooper469Dude have you seen that chainsaw dance? Not even close
“Boyfriend and Girlfriend?” This aged well. Also congratulations lol
Ikr??
Lol “he only killed two people..., two more than most of us”😂Seriously the podcast on this channel are my favorite they make my work day a lot better
"In the 70's it must've truly felt like the world was ending"
the 2020's peaking around the corner: oh now its my turn
Lol, so much of that intro felt familiar
Yes thank god texas chainsaw kill count the two best things combined
I think my favorite thing about this entire discussion is that all the things they talk about with the 70s is HEAVILY applicable to today.
Texas Chainsaw Massacre is the greatest horror film ever made. Its depth and simplicity are incomparable.
I actually watched texas chainsaw massacre for the first time last friday. Definitely in the top 5 horror movies I've watched
What are your other four?
@@blujay1608 alien,predator,the thing and the shining
Such a classic horror movie one of the best for sure.
Have you seen the original Black Christmas ? That to me is in my top 5.
@@playthegame3900Good picks. I'd personally rank Alien and Chainsaw anove predator tho. But which "The Thing"?
“So Sally’s Cambodia?” LOL, I guess Sally’s gonna be REALLY messed up after her experience here.
Anyone else notice the bloody hook on the wall behind James? Nice subtle touch.
These podcasts reminds me of the Horror film class I took in college. We spent a whole 4 hour class talking about Texas Chainsaw and it was such a good class
Lol Henry Kissinger dies the day I rewatch this
I’ve watched so much analysis of this movie, but WOAH, Chelsea has brought like 100x more to my attention than any other TCM student. This was beyond brilliant! Thank you!
I zoned out for a moment during this podcast and when I started listening again, I heard this: "Hansel and Gretel does feature kidnapping, imprisonment, and attempted cannabilism
When I read your Comment I was literally at the same point of the video. Holy this is crelpy
I’ll never not be baffled by the amount of research Chelsea puts into EVERY podcast not to mention all the editing! Love it!
hell yessss i love the academia-heavy episodes of the podcast! this was a joy to listen to. great work, chelsea and james!
Texas chainsaw massacre: the beginning. That movie freaked me out when the girlfriend is hiding under the table while her boyfriend gets chainsawed to death.
For a second I thought the kill count was early but I'm still gonna enjoy
In the 1st film Drayton had a "I'm doing what I have to do" attitude to the killing and cannibalism. He didn't like it but to him it had to be done for the sake of his and his family's survival. But in the 13 or 14 years between the 1st and second films he started to enjoy it more and went even more insane. He seemed to have a split personality because one minute he was telling off Leatherface and Nubbins for treating their torment of Sally like a party then the next he was laughing at her with them. Speaking of split personalities, according to Tobe Hooper the reason Leatherface wore multiple masks was to express himself because he had no personality of his own so he instead takes on the personalities of people he kills whose faces he cuts off and wears as masks. The Grandmother mask was probably the face of an old woman the Sawyers killed at some point and he wears that mask when he wants to help in the kitchen. The Pretty Woman mask was probably from a young female victim. It's obvious the Sawyers had already killed and eaten many people before the events of TCM 1. Sally, Franklin and their friends aren't their first victims. Just their latest.
You should read Chain Saw Confidential. Super good book written by the OG Leatherface.
Jordan Reviews I know that book
What does it cover?
490Clizzic490 the making of the film
Ed gein or gunner Hanson?
@@SofaPop. probably Gunnar Hansen.... "chain saw" and "making of the film"
Shout out to Chelsea for the research & putting together this VERY deep dive into (thus far) my favorite horror film - love both TKK & DMP 🤘
I was halfway through the last episode when this one dropped. I’m late but it was worth it!
It’s so creepy how recently all the influences on this movie have repeated out of no where (foreign war, gas shortage, labor issues). We’re living in the 70s 2.0 and it’s just as apocalyptic.
The twisted thing about the dinner scene is that even though for Sally it's a horrible torment for the Sawyers it's just a normal dinner.
This is by far the most thorough and insightful analysis I've seen of one of the greatest horror films of all time. Fascinating stuff; the next time I watch this movie will be through new eyes. Circular, veiny, rolling eyes.
Get you a man that looks at you the way James looks at Chelsea.
Dead meme, but still rings true
Thanks for all of your hard work Chelsea! One of my favorite parts about Dead Meat, and the podcast in particular, is the in-dept and academic analysis of my favorite genre! This episode was particularly insightful and I cannot wait for the next one! Keep up the great work guys
This episode was great, I've never seen the film, but hearing Chelsea's insight into the deeper meaning of the characters and situation is bloody fascinating. Great Job yous two and I look forward to the Kill Count and next weeks podcast.
Just finished listening to the audio version of this podcast and just had to come here and thank Chelsea for all the research she put into this episode. TCM is a top favorite horror of mine and to have even more historical lore behind it and insight into why the movie is the way that it is and how it was made just made me love it even more. So thank u for that, now I need to go rewatch TCM 🏃♀️🏃♀️
Excited for The Texas Chainsaw Massacre kill count tomorrow! Can't wait for other series to covered soon like Jaws, Final Destination, Hostel, Hellraiser, Gremlins, Piranha, Puppetmaster, and some one offs along the way.
Dude this is amazing. Like Chelsea, TCM is my Favorite horror film, and I am also a True Crime head, and Chelsea, you really did that! All the research and theories and quotes from Henkel And Hooper, and the Nixon and Drayton Theory, I thought I knew it all but boy was I wrong! Thank you for putting in the time and research, for me essentially, lol, it was awesome, and i fucking love podcasts. So much respect.
Listening to this now 3 years after you did it and it is showing how accurate these things are to now a days.
So I've binge watched a pile of these podcasts and the way you look at Chelsea just melts my little heart James. It's clear you both love each other very much.
I think this is so cool! I like the podcast today then the kill count the tommorow!
I love the podcasts that are analysis and research heavy. I think they're fascinating.
Ahh Texas Chainsaw Massacre, the only movie to truly scare my girlfriend
This is my first time ever listening to/watching a podcast. I loved it. Very good background information on this movie and its themes and inspiration. I love that kind of stuff. Usually, I’ll spend way too much time on the Internet reading about these sorts of things. But, you’re way more entertaining, so I’ll definitely be tuning into more of these. Great job!
I do actually am one who would like to thank you for not posting kill counts of the avengers, ever.
So thank you very much, absolutely love your content.
This is my favorite episode of the podcast. The analysis, the discourse, the addition of relevant clips. You guys are amazing
Can’t wait for the kill count tomorrow
This episode was amazing, really greatefull of Chelsea and how much research she did for this episode and how well she comunicates everything making really interesting and fun. Trully amazing you guys gain a new fan. ❤
Kill count on this one...
James: no but actually yes
Us: *FINALLY*
Incredible! This is my favorite episode of the podcast so far. Chelsea is so good at presenting all her research!
Jut clicked and just know I’m gonna love it keep it up yall 😂
I was rewatching this last night and literally was crying at the part where the truck driver just runs off the side of the screen. You could totally make a sequel about just that guy. The adventures he goes on.
Such a good episode, well worth the wait. It is an absolute treat hearing you talk about and discuss subjects you are obviously so passionate about. Great research by Chelsea!!!! Loved it
I'd 100% call this "dingy horror." When I think of the 70s, I think of a lot of browns. Lmao
I would like to thank you guys enormously, I am using this as a resource for my final paper on this film! Thank you, guys!
This movie is the main reason (along with tornadoes) that I was scared to move to Texas from Illinois as a kid. It was a traumatizing one, but a terrific film nevertheless. Great episode as always!
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre is my absolute favourite horror film so seeing Chelsea take it apart so beautifully just wow if only I could meet someone as amazing as her and marry her!
Finally! I'm so happy you're doing the texas chainsaw series I've been waiting for this for so long! love you guys
Gas shortages? no way that would ever happen again...
Yes... I love it. You two talk about the movie and then KILL COUNT the next day. Great idea. Would watch that all day every day!!
this episode just made me fall even more in love with chelsea!! she's amazing. tcm is also a huge favorite of mine for the same reasons. 70s horror changed so much and tried doing a bit of everything, my favorite decade for sure. thank you so much guys! love this podcast a lot!
Can I just say I'm really looking forward to the Kill Count for Next Generation, cause that movie is so bad but McConaughey is so hilarious in it
Playing so bad tho
FINALLY A TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE SERIES KILL COUNT IVE WAITED SO LONG BLESS
This was the first ever podcast episode I've watched of you guys. This was honestly phenomenal, I thoroughly enjoyed the film theory!
You should really watch (or just listen) the other podcasts from them, it's really amazing content
@@leandrobranco1618 Thank you, I will!
@@09wrxin17 have a nice Dead Meat Podcast marathon my friend!
I love this so damn much. It's my favorite podcast and I've came back to it so many times. This podcast made Texas chain saw Massacre my favorite movie
Thank you so much i needed this before work!!
These podcasts are the greatest. I never had time to take film theory classes in college and now even less to delve into that so I'm so happy to get these subjects in such a fun podcast :)
Chelsea knows what's up. Greatest horror film of all time
to explain why 70s horror is so different (and so good) is because, the Hays Code had been disbanded in 1968, this was a long and strict set of rules that censored pretty much everything and had been in place since the 30s. violence and sexuality (especially homosexual allusions) were banned and or heavily censored. next point, I did an English unit at university this semester, in our study of Twelfth Night, we discussed the concept of a Green World, the setting where socially unacceptable or taboo activities take place and they are justified, Illyria is the Green World in Twelfth Night. we discussed that in horror the Green World concept is replaced by the Monster, which fits the theory of repression. Vampires are our lust and bloodlust, Witches is our femininity, and the serial killers are our violence tendencies.
Ive been waiting for hours for this. It popped up on my podcast player, but I had to see the twinkle in James and Chelseas eyes while talking about it.
Totally addicted to y'alls podcasts! Love the fact you guys did a podcast today and the Kill Count will come tomorrow 😄
This was my first Dead Meat podcast. Great stuff, gonna definitely watch more
Same here
Awe darn I thought this was gonna be a Kill Count not a Podcast. 😆 Podcast Thursday and Kill Count Friday 🥰 Thanks guys!
Man... it's clear that James remembers they are being recorded visually (mugs to the camera, smiles and reacts while Chelsea talks) and Chelsea gets caught up in the illusion of the pod cast format.
Wicked Pod Cast 👊🏻
Thank you very much.
American politics and life in the 1970’s /prior, portrayed into art on scene. Love it