JP, the priest's prayers are not recited here aloud. Sadly, many priests keep these "to themselves." Don't understand why; the are the gospel in concise, powerful, moving poetic language.
The priestly prayers are called silent prayers because the rubrics say they are to be read quietly and not as an exclamation as some do. @@milojames5593
@@convertandbeorthodoxpls I recall reading that in earlier texts the instruction to the priest is to read them "reverently" rather than silently. Its a loss when they are read so that the rest of the assembled people cannot hear them. When its clericalism or a rush to get done early or something else I don't know. But, its a loss. IMO
The priests and bishops and even the deacons always have had certain prayers done that they specifically pray from the earliest times. Even nowadays when the OCA and others try to 'revive' the out loud anaphora, there are other places in the Divine Liturgy where these prayers are quietly said and not for the exclamation of the priest. It's a relationship of priest as mediator interceding for us-- they are prayers for the office of priest or deacon or bishop--- not for us as lay folk. It's not clericalism to think the priests ARE different than the faithful. They ARE different and are called to greater responsibility for their office. Reverently would mean done quietly and slowly compared to the parts during the Anaphora that are MEANT to be done aloud where the rubrics say "EXCLAMATION: ...." and even the Typikon itself testifies to this which is by no means a modern document. @@milojames5593
Thank you. mohax antonii 2 Qn: 1) If a priest is alone in the sanctuary, no cocelebrants, no acolytes, at the prayers of consecration, are they to be said silently? If so, who says the Amen. I ask because I’ve seen both ways done in GOA, ROCOR, OCA, and Antiochian parishes. It seems odd to call for an Amen to none who can hear, but those priests who don’t do it whom I’ve asked say it’s not necessary. Who is to give the assent? 2) Does the role of priest as intercessor *require* silent prayers, or is undertoned intercession consistent with but not mandated by priestly intercession? If *required,* are those prayers of the priest elsewhere in the Liturgy (and other services) not intercessory in nature? If not intercessory, then what? Sorry to bombard with so many questions; I am interested why the “silence” would be coextensive with priestly intercession.
beautiful, do you know where this was taken from? I would love to listen to the whole Liturgy.
were is the "with these blessed powers oh master" part ?
JP, the priest's prayers are not recited here aloud. Sadly, many priests keep these "to themselves." Don't understand why; the are the gospel in concise, powerful, moving poetic language.
The priestly prayers are called silent prayers because the rubrics say they are to be read quietly and not as an exclamation as some do. @@milojames5593
@@convertandbeorthodoxpls I recall reading that in earlier texts the instruction to the priest is to read them "reverently" rather than silently. Its a loss when they are read so that the rest of the assembled people cannot hear them. When its clericalism or a rush to get done early or something else I don't know. But, its a loss. IMO
The priests and bishops and even the deacons always have had certain prayers done that they specifically pray from the earliest times. Even nowadays when the OCA and others try to 'revive' the out loud anaphora, there are other places in the Divine Liturgy where these prayers are quietly said and not for the exclamation of the priest. It's a relationship of priest as mediator interceding for us-- they are prayers for the office of priest or deacon or bishop--- not for us as lay folk. It's not clericalism to think the priests ARE different than the faithful. They ARE different and are called to greater responsibility for their office. Reverently would mean done quietly and slowly compared to the parts during the Anaphora that are MEANT to be done aloud where the rubrics say "EXCLAMATION: ...." and even the Typikon itself testifies to this which is by no means a modern document. @@milojames5593
Thank you. mohax antonii
2 Qn: 1) If a priest is alone in the sanctuary, no cocelebrants, no acolytes, at the prayers of consecration, are they to be said silently? If so, who says the Amen. I ask because I’ve seen both ways done in GOA, ROCOR, OCA, and Antiochian parishes. It seems odd to call for an Amen to none who can hear, but those priests who don’t do it whom I’ve asked say it’s not necessary. Who is to give the assent?
2) Does the role of priest as intercessor *require* silent prayers, or is undertoned intercession consistent with but not mandated by priestly intercession? If *required,* are those prayers of the priest elsewhere in the Liturgy (and other services) not intercessory in nature? If not intercessory, then what?
Sorry to bombard with so many questions; I am interested why the “silence” would be coextensive with priestly intercession.