That creeps me out. What does that even mean??!! You are my employer, I work you pay me. That's it! Anytime I see that "family" line it makes me feel like they have unfair expectations and you are required to comply or else you're viewed as being difficult....or maybe they feel like they are entitled to your personal time?
And if most if the employees are actually in the same family, then you can be sure that 99.997 percent of the raises and promotions will only be going to family members.
My supervisor uses the line "you spend more time with your coworkers than you do with your own family, its best to get along and make the most of it" yea no thanks, if someone is an ass to me I go straight to HR. I rather not work with toxic people.
Haha! I was once a Training Co-ordinator for a Housing Association. I used to get a list of new starters/leavers…..I was shocked how many leavers over how many starters were on the list!! Hahahaha! Saying that I was there for 2 years :-)
One thing that I am struggling with in my new job is that there is no structured training and I feel that it is a sink or swim environment. That in my opinion doesn’t set up the candidate for success and instead is a crash course that will either lead to somewhat proficiency in role or will turn into complete failure. I understand that other people have jobs to do and things they need to do in their role but ultimately I should not be the one to figure things out on my own because I need to have a support system in place to guide me through and make me successful especially when I’m walking into a totally new industry.
Experiencing that right now and being thrown a full blown project on my 2nd day of work last week was a major red flag, thus why I am looking around the net if I should leave.
They hired you for ONE job, then suddenly they give you someone else's tasks, then after you do everything, they give you more and more. What's the reward for hard work? More work.
Bingo. Most hard workers get more work. Management go to those with the least complaints and get the job done. I was that employee, ended up taking so much on my shoulders, others became too dependent on me. I left and work on my own now.
Ugh.. every job I've ever had. The better work I do the more I get on my plate until I eventually can't do it all and then I'M the problem and I'm no longer performing "as I used to".
@@mikeschiavoni5973 If you ask your mechanic to do extra work on your car, is he still going to charge you the original price? If you go to the doctor for knee pain but end up needing an appendix operation, is he going to charge you the same? So, why do people get bent out of shape when I ask for more money if I have to do three other people's jobs? More work, more money!
Red 🚩Alert ⚠️ 📢 - I was promised full time hours between 32-40 a week by a major company but after two weeks training was given a locked in 30 hour a week schedule which meant no benefits & negated the higher pay rate they had given me. I took another job within a few weeks. Great information as always Jennifer 👍 😃
happens in retail too often. i remember back when did retail, unless you had anytime availability, you would be relegated low hours a week. but but these places b*$ch and moan when you take that day off.
I started a job where people were literally screaming at people in lower roles. I could not believe it. I went to lunch and never returned. I faxed in a resignation. I was too stressed out to tell them in person. The person training me hovered over me while training and was basically yelling their words. It was upsetting. I could tell they always screamed at lower roles. I heard one guy screaming 50 feet from the receptionist at the receptionist not like "can you hear me," he was berating her. 😱 The whole office could hear him.
Yup, had something similar. But it was always still somehow subtle enough that I was frequently unsure of whether what happened, actually happened. Or maybe it was just so unbelievable that I didn't want to believe it.
3 years with a company just like this. Warehouse hourly people yelled at all night. We only had 2 people on 2nd shift and they had 8 on 1st shift. Yet they expected two people to do as much or more as the 8 people on 1st shift.
One of the best questions to ask in an interview is about the position you’re applying for: Why did the last person leave? That answer (and their reaction) will tell you exactly what you need to know in deciding to even accept the offer.
I just quit a nationwide caregiver service. The company often blames the caregivers for being late or not showing up even though it's the scheduling departments fault for not scheduling someone for a shift or scheduling a caregiver to leave one client in one county while the caregiver is supposed to start with another client at the same time in a different county.
@The Life and Times of Beatnik B.A.E. I started working for myself. I make more money and get to schedule my own hours. Three 12hr shifts and then I have 4 days off. I'm a lot happier now.
@@Nicole-nd5xt Yup same. That was the one question I regret not asking since the people in my position kept leaving every two years. I’m over two years into this job and now I know why
Totally relate to “you’re on your own.” I stayed with that company anyway, but realized later that the entire company culture was like this. Poor management skills all around.
Happened to me at my last job. So glad I stayed less than a year. The environment was extremely toxic and the role was not as described. I had a small hunch something was wrong during my first month or two but I kind of thought it was in my head. I’m never ignoring my instincts if something doesn’t feel right again.
I usually give it at least a couple weeks, but after that if it’s still miserable and toxic it’s good to leave. Screw a whole year feeling like you’re drowning, barely scraping by with energy levels in the shitter from how demanding the job is, not being able to see family cause you’re always working or commuting.
another buzzword is "we need someone to hit the ground run" or "we don't want to babysit". Essentially they don't want to train at all. also if you have started and tell them you have an appointment after 3p, and they expect you to come back, they are full s&*t. now if you are willing to take any job to pay bills, don't stress and work at steady pace but still respect your time.
When someone in a hiring position says “we don’t want to babysit” it’s insulting because as an adult, I never expected to be babysat and just the implication that I would expect that, unless someone pointed it out to me, rubs me the wrong way. Yeah, maybe that person had a bad experience with a helpless employee, but that doesn’t justify being prejudiced with job candidates
The first contract job I got, I was told on my first day "You learn by asking around." To an extent, this is true. But there wasn't even a training manual or orientation week to teach me anything about the job itself. Plus, many of the existing employees were self-centered pricks and thought too much of themselves, despite their low positions in the heirarchy. It was a toxic environment overall. Plus the nonsensical paperwork system (which didn't seem logical in my mind) was the last straw. I quit before my contract ended.
@@thismissivemisfit yeah my biggest red flag at one employer was when the big boss was used to doing mathematical calculations by hand in 2020. and when i told the owner about buying software to do the job way faster, my supervisor gets threatened and lays me off.
Thanks to this channel and Life After Layoff I'm now out of my toxic workplace and in an awesome job that pays almost double my last salary. No red flags yet, but I'm still on high alert because of my last job.
I undertake temporary work When they tell me that they are friendly and go down the bar together, that's a red flag to me. You shouldn't have to be be told that they are friendly.
YES! The "on your own" thing! I've been working for about 3 mos. at a job and have been desperately asking for some help and clarity about what it is I'm supposed to be doing and nobody knows. I feel like my job description 1. changed from what I was hired for and 2. changes every day 3. there are different expectations of me from everyone I speak to. It's excruciating and I'm already so ready to leave.
I just received full clarity on my role 5 months in, and now that I know what I don’t know and I’m asking for help, I don’t get the help I was told I’d receive if I just spoke up. I’m so over it!
Yup! This happened to me at an old company! Bait and switch, I was on my own, no true training (a straight "dump & run" of responsibilities), & to add insult to injury, 2 weeks into the job the guy who hired me announced his 2 week resignation!!
Same the current job I start back in June the manager moved to another department 2 weeks after I started. And surprise surprise there has been no replacement. So guess who gets to take on part of the responsibilities!
Good to know the guy who hired you approved you because he didn't give a shit who he hired because he was on his way out anyway. I was in a similar boat where the guy who hired me left like a few months later.
I got hired within two days of interview and the girl I was replacing was leaving in a week and half. Training was one week cause she was too busy; she didn't even do proper client handover. I shared an office with another long term employee and on the first day of work, she told me I should leave and get out while I can lol. She also broke down and cried while talking to me, reciting a past work trauma from a previous manager 😅
I had this happen to me in a law firm many years ago. I was hired as a paralegal, but when I started my job, I was relegated to doing secretarial work "as a way to prove myself." Well I sucked at being a secretary, but I was a very good paralegal. I left after a few months.
This happened to me last month with a new job that seemed fine on paper and a manager that seemed reasonable during the interview. It turned out to be a nightmare on the first day: red flags going up left and right, bait and switch related to the job description and no training like I've ever experienced. And an almost hour long commute. Basically a sink or swim enviroment with an abusive boss. I was out of there after only about two weeks since it got worse and worse each day. Staying in a toxic work enviroment thinking it will magically get better is a bad idea from experience. Listen to actions not words indeed. Also listen to your instinct if things feel off during the interview.
One job I had lied about remote work days. This same job gave me no training, I had to figure everything out on my own…which I did! And they still weren’t satisfied 🤷🏽♀️ when I left, my position became a revolving door. Toxic AF leadership ✅
I relate 100% because I just went through this the past 2 months. My psycho ex-boss would call her employees at all hours of the day and/or night if they didn't meet an unreasonable deadline. There was one hour of horrible training and you were up shits creek if you didn't understand. I was told the job would be remote but after my first day I was told I would be in the office full time. Just one lie after another.
@@rocker76m88 yes! My ex boss would call on my day off and fake apologize for it. She took no accountability, everything was my fault! As a leader, you are responsible for training your people. Employees can’t ask questions they don’t know to ask.
Great discussion 👍 this happens a lot in reality. This is why "job hopping" is an outdated concept. People should take their career life in their own hands. Don't be afraid. Don't waste your time and life in an unfit working environment. Keep looking, find your spark.
Well I’m 3 days in training at a new job, My job title is totally different than what I applied for as well as responsibilities. I also found out there is a lot of turnover. I’m so annoyed!!! 🚩🚩🚩🚩
One red flag that I've encountered twice in my career is, on your first day, the boss complains to you or warns you about a co-worker that (as you find out later) they refuse to get rid of. That's a sure sign that that person is embedded in the company, usually through a family connection, or just plain nepotism. You are going to end up doing the embedded co-worker's job for them at your cost (in unpaid overtime, stress, maybe not getting a raise), and you will ultimately get the blame for not doing your co-worker's job for them (plus your own job) good enough, and then you will lose your job. If you see this embedded co-worker thing, start re-interviewing at other places right away.
True. I worked a job where the manager’s best friend worked under her, supposedly as an equal with me. Basically, the best friend bullied me and walked around like she owned the place. But of course, she did. Who would stand up to or challenge the boss’s best friend?
Such a good post. Thank you! I’m a month into what I thought looked like a dream job on paper and during the interview process, only to realize once I started that the company is toxic AF and people are quitting and taking stress leave weekly. They talked about positive culture, support and communication during the interview, but didn’t clarify that this is what was currently lacking and required me to be the face of the new regime… and putting it all the responsibility on me. Needless to say I’m immediately looking for work elsewhere.
Bait and switch !! No proper onboarding, no time to explain things, my training was to ask and ask. Making mistakes and watching people panic because of a beginner mistake. I have lots of experience but their company process is different. I've helped new colleagues and they still work at my former employer. So i can say that this is very very bad i have never trained people like this.
It just happened to me. I held out and tried to make the best of it. No training, everyone was new or out with covid. I thought it would get better but it got worse. The job became impossible to do. So I got fired Friday. I was working up to 60 hours a week so I couldn’t have worked more then that. I’m 56 not 26. I don’t want my old job back, it was toxic and more importantly didn’t pay enough for me to live.
@@evilbabyhag Yes it was a living hell. I worked straight through a night and next day. All that did was make them expect that again. Their google rating is now 1.8. I have a new job that’s less work and more money and it’s not a living hell.
@@christinabrenneman7641 the wage was okay but they lied to me about the job. It just wasn’t physically possible. They gave me properties to manage that were more than an hour away and not even close to each other. Then I’m told I’m supposed to go to each one once a week, and do their board meetings and run the day to day business isn’t possible. After I left their Google rating became 1.8. They were ruining my reputation.
I interviewed for a job at a company I didn't know was toxic. I asked the HR woman for a mentor. This horrible woman suggested two ppl she knew had reputations for intimidating and abusing woman. She knew! She admitted it months later. Those two men had bad reputations for years. There were so many complaints about them. Why, why would she do that? It's insanity.
This video is spot on! I should have quit my last job right away based on these red flags, but I was focused on viewing challenges as opportunities for growth and failed to recognizing a bad situation for what it was...and it only got worse. I hope this video saves many people from falling into the same trap I did.
Interviewd for an advertised "full time" position. Passed the interview with flying colors. Received the offer in writing, it said "the position is intended to be part time since it is the nature of the industry" (which could be true). I accepted it without question because I was too trusting, and I was being stupid / naive. Four weeks in: the first week was OK, I banked some OT. The second week, I worked a mere 5 hours. Third, a mere 25 hours. Now on the 4th, I haven't worked for 10 days! I feel disgusted by this practice. I feel disappointed and betrayed. But I must take responsibility, learn my mistake, and screen / evaluate my future employers as thoroughly as they do me! This is horseshit.
I never got burned that bad, but I naively trusted an employer who assured me they would fully train me, and that was total bullshit. "Here's a legal pad, take notes" was the full extent of their training.
Anytime a manager is ambiguous/vague about giving you a full-time spot or promotion, it's almost a dead giveaway you're not going to get it. I work retail and anytime I ask my manager about the promotion process he's happy I'm interested, but at the same time he'll use witty comments to deflect the conversation.
I joined a new company November 2020 and I noticed immediately that there were some red flags. I did stick to it for a year and I am ready to get out! I was hired as a Web Developer but my entire year I have only developed about 15% of my time there. I felt something in my gut when I was interviewing but I also was excited for a new opportunity after 5 years at a previous company. Listen to your gut!
Point 5 - very relatable. 3 weeks into a new job. I emailed my resignation today (Monday) and I'm not going back. Sick of poor management. Sick of empty promises. And I'm sick to death of management acting like they know what they are doing when they don't have a clue! Haha.
"Day One. You're on your own." Been there done that! I was hired to be the main Tech Support guy for that local office. No predecessor to train me, no superior tech person to ask questions too, and no system layouts/schematics. In fact, I was there to explain to the boss how things in computer system worked. Was not there very long.
My most recent job that I just resigned from last month only lasted 4 weeks after finding out I was working for a small failing computer repair business as a computer repair tech. What makes things worse, the owner of the Computer Repair shop is same guy that also owns an HVAC business under the same name. He doesn't work on computers and expected me to pretty much run the computer shop all by myself and do all the marketing for both his computer repair and HVAC business to bring in more traffic and get the phones ringing. It's not my responsibility to help market a company that the owner negicated nor it I agreed to marketing his business during the interview process. I gotten the hell out of there and landed a real IT job in the enterprise world working for a Aerospace and Defense company.
I watched this video for affirmation for myself. In June, I left a long term job tor try to get myself out of my doldrums and wanted to a new opportunity that I’d been pursuing. Everything looked great on paper: higher pay with the potential for a raise after my first thirty days, it was early morning which meant I’d be off sooner in the day, and getting me out of the typical work setting by getting out and seeing sights throughout the day. But that’s where the good ended. Red flags from day one. Then pay they told me was lower than what I agreed to and they said “well, we have it written down.” I felt rushed in that they were trying to throw me to the wolves as quickly as possible, and there were no breaks (lunch or small breaks), with longer than eight hour shifts for back breaking work. I left after four days and went back to my old job. I’m grateful that I at least tried it. Made me realize what I never want to do.
I accepted a job offer back in 2012 and started in January 2013. I felt depressed after my first few days - always a bad sign! They provided practically no training, the work environment was cutthroat, and the orientation was two hours long. I was put in front of an unfamiliar software program, and required to figure out how to use it in four hours! It took me four days. After four months I decided to look elsewhere.
I've had this situation so many times, and found the only times it has worked out is when I have worked alone or worked through an Agency, so I can just walk away when things aren't right. The problem is very much to do with my having more strengths than those around me. I've come to expect it. Working for myself is the only answer.
My hiring manager said I would see a massive raise around 2 years at the job. He was right - I received a massive raise when i quit the department I originally worked in and got hired in a new department. He eventually became my boss in the new department, too! :)
My nightmare job story: I travelled to another city for an interview for the position of molecular biologist. I got accepted for the role. The week before I moved I was informed that they had changed my position to senior lab tech, but they would keep the same salary and responsibilities. When I arrived they presented me with a completely different list of responsibilities. The coworkers were very aggressive and borderline rude. On day 10 I was written up for missing work from another department that they told me to leave to another worker in a written form (!). And another coworker simply said she is not coming to work until I quit. I escaped 2 months later. Please, stay away from deceptive employers. They do have something to hide.
I wish I had seen red flags that my boss was a huge control freak in the interview but honestly there weren't many. A little impatience, that was all. But I basically work in a prison now where my every action is scrutinized and evaluated. I never understood how important freedom is to working productively. Never again.
4:39 I graduated during Rona and got a job like that. It worked for me: 1) I don't see my boss 2) I'm not monitored 3) I am not evaluated on any metrics So, I come to work at 12pm and leave at 3. I learned HTML/CSS/JavaScript in my free time. I built tools that auto tracked inventory, complete financial reports, and present you with digital files/information based on where you are in the building. By having a job with no supervision and complete control, I was able to design and implement whatever I wanted. I'm now looking for a new job. I want a 30% pay bump and I now have the resume to get that
I got a bait & switch after 7yrs of employment. Politely explain your end goal, reassert your version of reality, revisit end the goal and back away. Matter was quickly resolved in my case.
Been wanting to quit since the day I started. I had vacation planned since I started and then they switched and told me I can’t take my vacation. Another one is how much work we actually do, not to mention I wasn’t even trained properly since I started. Was promised Monday to Friday and now it’s Monday to Saturday and mandatory overtime. Totally regret even coming the first day.
Always take a planned vacation. Stand up for yourself. They do that to everyone. Plus people respect you more when you give a firm no ( while doing your job well).
New job Red Flag: Your new coworkers seem confused or startled by your education, previous job experience, or how you approach the actual work that you're doing. This is a sign that you are not with an employer that operates in any sort of familiar way or, very likely, in an environment of professional standards for the industry. What I'm describing isn't a rude, suspicious, or judgemental reaction from coworkers. I'm talking about having applied for a job at a company that does work in your familiar field and your interview felt professionally "familiar", but the "on-the-ground" employees make it clear that they don't understand how/why you were hired or how your background fits with their workplace. This has happened to me 2 or 3 times in my career and it is absolutely the biggest, earliest warning sign that tells me to get out of that employment situation ASAP!
I took a salary position where I gave clear expectations as to my work hours so I could still participate and potentially compete with my gyms bjj team. I have worked 12+ hour days often 6 days a week since then and had to quit my hobby. I also often have to deal with unsavory people as I am a bar manager and just yesterday got myself in the middle of a large fight trying to toss out problematic guests. I walked away angry, tired, and bloody. I am also not trusted to do my job because my boss is a control freak who think she is the only person who is capable and competent. I have more experience than her. Worst job ever.
Red flags from Orientation but I ignored my instincts hoping it was going to get better. First quarter in and my gut says RUN!! With the heavy workload and expectation for workers to work thru the holidays in addition to the usual 40 hours is unhealthy.
I can totally relate to this video even though I’ve been with the company for 1 year already I now know I should have left sooner. I am now job searching and ensuring that if I see those red flags again I will leave sooner. Thanks for the video!
I recently left a job. That was amazing in many ways. But offered no life balance. Even on ur days off u were expected to check emails. Thankfully, i had a new job lined up. Where my hours are more responsible. But glassdoor had reviewes stating that the company didn’t offer work life balance. I shouldn’t had ignored the reviews.
I was hired as a clinica research coordinator for a company in Phx, Az. The trial was the covid vaccine for children. I was sat in an office my first day without a computer, phone, or training agenda. When asked what my training entailed, I was told to enjoy not having to work and still get paid. (SMH) In addition, the office manager would bad-mouth the company and CEO. I knew I would have to get another job lined up but still wanted to get as much knowledge of the trial as I could. However, the last straw was when another CRC was in their office vaping marijuana and gratuitously swearing in front of the subjects. They would clock each other in and out and asked me to lie for them numerous times. Glad its over. The problem is, some of these “at will” companies really think they can do whatever they want. I am not sure if you have done a video on this but I would sure appreciate it.
Yes, no hr dept, no training or assigned duties, no direction from mgmt, two toxic coworkers who boss you around all the time..one started when I did, one is very elderly but a compulsive, narcissistic talker etc who’s already insulted me twice in front of clients ( as a joke), receiving complaints on phone about process errors in our company..etc.. Only been there a month but too fed up now and I can’t unsee what I’ve seen..
This happened to me, a role was advertised as a Publishing Assistant and when I showed up on day 1 they were referring to the role as Sales. They fired me the next day for not being savy enough in Sales. Trash company, I should've left the moment this happened. It was a red flag cause they then tried to resist paying my salary 😒
Current job ......in less than a week will former job....I knew the names of the people who quit before me before I knew the names of my current co-workers . A huge red flag
I left a company that lied to me about my hours, I was supposed to be working a couple of hours per week but it turns out that it was a couple of hours per month. I gaslit myself saying that maybe I heard wrong, or I wrote down the wrong hours. I loved working there but the lack of financial support was awful, after a year I felt such a guilty conscience (thank God!) for staying at a place that lied to me that I forced myself to quit. What I found out when I gave my resignation letter was that another coworker (hired the same time as me) had quit the previous week. I have been very discouraged ever since.
Jennifer........you nailed it. Boy that is what I walked into my first day as recruiter. I walked into an office, no boss, no desk, no computer. The 2 current employees did not even know I was starting. I literally trained and used my own phone and computer for the next 2 weeks. My boss never reached out to me until 2 weeks later. It was HOOOOOOORRRRIBBBLE. I should have ran out the door that first day. I lasted almost a year. Yes, you are right. They set me up and others for failure and as the "fall guy." Everyone......run don't do what I did and stay.
I wish I had seen this a few months ago! I thought I needed to give it time but I’m four months in and it is not a good fit. I should have ran for the hills when I first started.
I actually had a interview where they told me they were not hiring anymore for the position advertised. They wanted to hire me for a lower position with lower pay. Even though I was qualified / over qualified for the job advertised. Seriously
I resigned today based on your advice for the toxic manager and take your advice and made it professional resignation I didn't till any negative feedback on my toxic guy I am applying for a different jobs
Yes, I have been through this! It makes people quit. I have gone ahead and trained people when it wasn't my job so they were not alone and I had coworkers to help shoulder the work. That kind of set up that you have described and I have been through is a complete set up for failure.
OMG thank you Jennifer for this video. This is what happened to me. What did my boss once tell me - "YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE BULL BY THE HORNS!" I didn't even know where the bull was held. IT ONLY GOT WORSE FROM that moment.
I'm about to resign from my new job after a month haha they were shady, kept everything hush hush, found out their turn over rate was bad, some co-workers were prejudice, and the boss is a big baby. I'm just waiting for my old job back haha great job explaining the red flags!
Thank you. That’s exactly what I was looking for : “to help figure out if you need more time to adjust or if you just need to get out of there” been at my new job since November and crying right when I get home more days than not (which hasn’t happened at any other job. 🚩 ) Put my feelings into words thanks
Listening to less than and hour of your videos has helped me more than I can explain here. You have opened my eyes. Your content is awesome! Thank you Career Bestie👍🏾👍🏾
Few years ago I had been in this company, yes there was an onboarding but it was very surface, turned out it was more than that . There was so much more that I needed to know. When I asked questions, they answered but talked behind my back.
When I got laid off from UPS, I was looking to start on a different path. A recruiter suggested a medical billing office "that provides all training." Despite the low starting wage, I thought, 'awesome, if they train, I should be able to get another coding/billing job elsewhere if it doesn't pan out since they're always in demand.' WELL...training consisted of them handing me a legal pad and pen and me watching someone else do it while I take notes. 😐 Management was predictably awful, and I suffered through it for 2 years until my dog got sick of my miserableness and essentially matched it until enough was enough. I switched to legal asst/paralegal in 2016 and I've never been happier as an adult.
Three years ago I was new at the job I currently am still in and there were absolutely the first two red flags mentioned. 😣 If I weren't in such a bad mindset after my company closed down, causing me to find this job, I would have been better at not letting these slide. I'm currently in school and can't leave this job until I've finished. It will be one more year but at least I have the exit strategy in motion! I started therapy as well so hopefully I'll make it through one more year of it! I luckily have some great co-workers.
You just described quite a few SoCal companies I have worked for sadly. The sign of a good company is when your manager is happy to see you and tells you "I am here to help you succeed"
I had one of these situations, (on my own)they expected me to know everything, the receptionist had to show me how to navigate the very confusing & convoluted website. She was trying to get me to do her job & when I told her I had to learn mine, she got mad at me, yelled at me & then got promoted & was trained by the person leaving before taking on her assignment. I left that place but it cost me my health & mental well-being.
This felt just a little bit like you're talking to me. I came into this company as a specialized expert in a relatively narrow field, they had never employed anyone with my qualifications though they sometimes had entertained the idea and did have a few experiences of employing workers who come from somewhat similar fields and backgrounds. I've taken all sorts of additional tasks on my plate just to spice it up a little, but in the end I feel completely underutilized. As the whole business structure was planned from the ground up with different ideas in mind, there still remain some unsolvable logistic issues stopping me from doing work in my specialized field full time, so a lot of the time I end up doing essentially menial tasks with a somewhat wider view of the horizon compared to my fellow workers. A part of the additional tasks I acquired involve learning new methods and then teaching the rest of the staff how to do them, but it ultimately feels like an exercise in futility. The pay isn't exactly bad - Though I feel for some of my co-workers who do more or less the same job at about a 30-40% pay cut - so I can afford to sit tight and wait for a better job opportunity, but after 6 months I'm feeling increasingly done with everything and just want to move on. I was thinking of holding out until 12 months or so to have a bit more impressive line to add to my CV, but it's gradually getting more annoying.
"On your Day 1, you're on your own." - this so true with most software development companies. The 2 companies I have been with were both like that. As a certified six sigma individual, I know that work instruction documents are very important in doing your job so that one would know if you are doing your tasks within the boundaries of what is "acceptable" for them. But due to its absence, I was later deemed to be under performing. The funny part is their performance metrics are also based on gut-feel, not based on objective data. Thank God I'm outta there! They're beyond saving anyways. If they don't change, it's a matter of time for them to sink. Lessons Learned: Set proper expectations with your boss on the first day.
I just quit a job after 2 weeks because of no structure for the role. It was a side project that grew into a role because of business demands. My manager gave me a background of what they had been doing to fulfill the duties of the role, but it was up to me to grab and run with it, without much assistance and direction. Having been supported extremely well by the manager in my previous role, I immediately recognized that this was not for me. Requesting a meeting to discuss this was met with much frustration and irritability from my manager and hers. I was told flat out that this was the job and I was expected to be able to make an impact and deliver with autonomy. Needless to say, this was far above my competency level and I quit on the Wednesday of my 2nd week!
Something I've also learned from jobs so far: always ask how ppl communicate in the job. If they say email and meetings, that's a red flag that the roles are pretty divided and the workers aren't interested in knowing you
I just started a new job. The very first week there were "issues". No direction or training. I have already been in to HR once. She was helpful, but it isn't her problem. It is the bad management. There were several people who quit before I was hired on. I feel like my boss is expecting me to "fix" his problems. We have already had one meeting about the lack of training I am experiencing. So he is aware of it. Whether or not he cares is another thing. It remains to be seen.
Started a new job last week with no training, and a mountain of unfinished work from the previous employee who split. Managers hate one another and no one ever knows whats going on. But "you'll figure it out" they suggested. Resigned a week later. Know your worth! 👋
Hi, thank you for the video. I started a new job 2 months ago, and for sure, have a number 3 situation. I had to onboard my self, find and solve all the issues and my boss was telling me:" it is a you problem, I don't have the time to help/train you". Mind you, I cannot do most of the job without a proper training (IT tools, reportings). I came to the conclusion that the persons who left this position ( 2 consultants and a fixed person) were wright. I have to move on. It is not for me. I don't want to be yelled at for stuffs I cannot know expecially if I tried but there is no support AND nobody should be yelled at or treated without respect.
That is so hard when coworkers/bosses treat you like you should already know things so early in the job. It can really make you doubt yourself and if it starts to make you feel bad about yourself, getting out is the best decision.
My boss completely forgot I was coming in for the first day. Then I learned that my position isn’t actually permanent, although it was advertised as such. Every idea of mine is disregarded and simple tasks become week long problems. Getting out ASAP!
In my old job, they used to talk about how they were ISO 9001 certified (they have it front and centre on their website) and how important that was to them. Yet when I started, there were no formalised work instructions for my role. As I was training, I was writing my own notes, as the existing notes were so lacking in detail and missing steps that they were useless. In the end, I ended up writing the work instructions for my role. Yet somehow throughout this, they maintained their ISO accreditation. Even when audited for it.
@@hroz8630 Yeah, that's pretty much my experience. It took me way longer to pick up the job because of it. I actually liked the job once I did but it turned out to be not such a great place in the end, so you have to decide whether this triggers it for you based on everything else.
In the interview I asked what could I expect from my first few months as a junior data analyst and what they expected from me. They said the first 6 months would be training and analysing raw data. First day at work turns out they are giving me 2 senior projects cause the senior is going to another team and everyone has their own projects so the team doesnt really work together on projects. And the training i had was literally a udemy course from an account they provided and shadowing the senior whilst he did the absolutely basics of the daily duties. Team members and manager are nice and I ask for help when I need and sure I have learned some stuff, but the fact it was not what I was expecting or perceived from what I heard in the interview and the pressure to perform to their expectations within the first month ( I was told by my manager he already expected me to be thinking 2 steps ahead, despite the fact Im still trying to come to terms with the processes, the company, the job and learning what they do 3 steps behind - my only source being my laptop cause its remote position)- and being constantly reminded how I joined the best team of the department... it screwed up my mental health. I had never felt more anxious and depressed before. Had sleepless nights of constantly thinking about quitting (even my free time was spent googling is it okay to quit early) and had gotten out of bed sometimes at 2/3am to try to fix whatever issue there was in the project because of the pressure I was feeling from everyone. I even called my mum crying from the anxiety that had overwhelmed me - I never did that before . Didnt help this is a job back in my home country so Im far from my close family... Im quitting and its only been 2 months. As soon as the idea was set in my mind I finally relaxed knowing I wouldnt be here for much longer. I feel like a failure cause I graduated in 2020 and this was my first "real" job (I worked retail throughout 2021 to save money and help my family) and I always perceived myself to be a hardworking person who would be sucessful... now I am about to be unemployed again and terrified I wont find another junior or grad role and scared I have possibly just wasted the only oportunity I might have. For now Im trying to be positive and decided to do what I came to my home country to do - heal, spend time with family here, do some courses to see what I actually like and dont like and work on myself. Im even thinking of using the little savings I have to travel somewhere. I will do my best and work hard to find another job once Im back in the UK. I chose to care for my mental health instead of pursuing this career right now and although the future scares me I hope this experience will help me in the future. I do hope I quit for the right reasons and not because I was overwhelmed. At the same time I know deep down this just wasnt the right fit for me... Im sorry for the rant. Long story short. Good onboarding, proper training and clear communication of the job in the interview stages is something that all companies should have.
With my previous job I was blatantly lied to on the interview. I was told that most people stay there a very long time. I'm assuming the idea is that everybody likes the job so much that they never leave. I was originally on a team of 7 including one contractor. However, in my first two weeks somebody left. The first month in another person left. Half a year in another person left. First year in another person left. A month after that I left. Less than a month after I left the contractor decided to leave. A few months after that one of the new guys that started when I was about 8 months in left when he was a year in. There was only one lifer on the team there with 15 years and unfortunately it's only because she undervalues herself. Luckily I'm happy at my new place. It's just disgusting how some places play with people livelihoods.
I was TOLD that I would be starting a "career path", meaning base + commission, and when I was due to start I was given links to companies I was to represent. ALL charged UP front access fees. This was definitely 1099/commission ONLY. Basically bait and switch and I was LIVID as I knew this guy from a previous job, and he LIED about everything.
Haha this video is great! They told me that 30 people turned over and while a few got promoted the rest left! I ended up staying there for 4 years but I saw every toxic red flag there was. The nightmare job had every red flag you discussed. LOL!
Got a job at a nursing school working as an EA. After a couple of weeks they announced one of the things not included in my job description, but was mandatory, was to let the students practice on me when learning to give shots. I quit right away.
For me a red flag is when they rush the recruitment process...I just spent a month in a company that promised me a back office job working from home mainly with emails. They asked for my documents after a swift phone interview...the same day I delivered the documents they already started training...which was a waste of time...and I realized that it was a call center...and on top of that...the system never worked. I quit after my first week.
If they tell you “they are one big family” set ship status to red alert.
That creeps me out. What does that even mean??!! You are my employer, I work you pay me. That's it! Anytime I see that "family" line it makes me feel like they have unfair expectations and you are required to comply or else you're viewed as being difficult....or maybe they feel like they are entitled to your personal time?
And if most if the employees are actually in the same family, then you can be sure that 99.997 percent of the raises and promotions will only be going to family members.
My supervisor uses the line "you spend more time with your coworkers than you do with your own family, its best to get along and make the most of it" yea no thanks, if someone is an ass to me I go straight to HR. I rather not work with toxic people.
Seriously huge red flag 🚩
Oh god, yes. There may be some exceptions, but literal family-run outfits should be avoided, too.
There’s nothing worse than discovering that there’s no structure and no organization.
Yes! And that your role is not well defined
"You're on your own". Exactly what I am going through right now.
How much turnover is in a department/company is a pretty good indicator people aren’t happy. Something to watch out for!
I agree with you. High turnover is a sign of poor management.
True, but you generally have zero visibility of staff turnover when you're interviewing for a role. A leap of faith is required.
We lost 16 people in a year. The company had 25 people.
Haha! I was once a Training Co-ordinator for a Housing Association. I used to get a list of new starters/leavers…..I was shocked how many leavers over how many starters were on the list!! Hahahaha! Saying that I was there for 2 years :-)
I work in the HR dept & there is high turnover. Huge red flag
One thing that I am struggling with in my new job is that there is no structured training and I feel that it is a sink or swim environment. That in my opinion doesn’t set up the candidate for success and instead is a crash course that will either lead to somewhat proficiency in role or will turn into complete failure. I understand that other people have jobs to do and things they need to do in their role but ultimately I should not be the one to figure things out on my own because I need to have a support system in place to guide me through and make me successful especially when I’m walking into a totally new industry.
I totally agree with you
I would love to know some tips as well
YES. This is what I am currently experiencing.
Same what I am experiencing ...however training is there but not proper
Experiencing that right now and being thrown a full blown project on my 2nd day of work last week was a major red flag, thus why I am looking around the net if I should leave.
I'm currently going through a bad training. I regret leaving my former job. I'm on the verge of tears everyday
They hired you for ONE job, then suddenly they give you someone else's tasks, then after you do everything, they give you more and more. What's the reward for hard work? More work.
Bingo. Most hard workers get more work. Management go to those with the least complaints and get the job done. I was that employee, ended up taking so much on my shoulders, others became too dependent on me. I left and work on my own now.
Ugh.. every job I've ever had. The better work I do the more I get on my plate until I eventually can't do it all and then I'M the problem and I'm no longer performing "as I used to".
@@RocketVet Exactly my point. The American labor system needs a huge overhaul. It's very different in other countries.
Lolololol, oh no, more work....lolololololol.
@@mikeschiavoni5973 If you ask your mechanic to do extra work on your car, is he still going to charge you the original price? If you go to the doctor for knee pain but end up needing an appendix operation, is he going to charge you the same? So, why do people get bent out of shape when I ask for more money if I have to do three other people's jobs? More work, more money!
Red 🚩Alert ⚠️ 📢 - I was promised full time hours between 32-40 a week by a major company but after two weeks training was given a locked in 30 hour a week schedule which meant no benefits & negated the higher pay rate they had given me. I took another job within a few weeks. Great information as always Jennifer 👍 😃
I'm glad you moved on quickly, David.
Yikes! Good on you for getting out fast
happens in retail too often. i remember back when did retail, unless you had anytime availability, you would be relegated low hours a week. but but these places b*$ch and moan when you take that day off.
They put it in a writting or it means nothing!!!
Same. I was promised hours, benefits etc. Only to get less than 30 wk. Called in all the time to cover for others. Nasty environment.
I started a job where people were literally screaming at people in lower roles. I could not believe it. I went to lunch and never returned. I faxed in a resignation. I was too stressed out to tell them in person. The person training me hovered over me while training and was basically yelling their words. It was upsetting. I could tell they always screamed at lower roles. I heard one guy screaming 50 feet from the receptionist at the receptionist not like "can you hear me," he was berating her. 😱 The whole office could hear him.
This seem like my current job. You faxed your resignation 😂😂. It will give great pleasure giving them my resignation in person.
Wow. That is abuse. You did the right thing.
Yup, had something similar. But it was always still somehow subtle enough that I was frequently unsure of whether what happened, actually happened. Or maybe it was just so unbelievable that I didn't want to believe it.
WTF 😂😂😂😂
3 years with a company just like this. Warehouse hourly people yelled at all night. We only had 2 people on 2nd shift and they had 8 on 1st shift. Yet they expected two people to do as much or more as the 8 people on 1st shift.
You're on your own...that can be a sign that the business is going under.
It definitely signals there of a resource issue, that could be financial or organizational
That too and it could also be because the boss doesn’t want you to see how miserable your coworkers are on your first day lmao. Run
My job has more red flags than a Chinese New Year parade.
😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
One of the best questions to ask in an interview is about the position you’re applying for:
Why did the last person leave?
That answer (and their reaction) will tell you exactly what you need to know in deciding to even accept the offer.
Damn good idea/point.
I just quit a nationwide caregiver service. The company often blames the caregivers for being late or not showing up even though it's the scheduling departments fault for not scheduling someone for a shift or scheduling a caregiver to leave one client in one county while the caregiver is supposed to start with another client at the same time in a different county.
@The Life and Times of Beatnik B.A.E. I started working for myself. I make more money and get to schedule my own hours. Three 12hr shifts and then I have 4 days off. I'm a lot happier now.
This is nonsense because you are not going to get any true answer. If you can talk directly to the person after they left you might get real info.
@@Nicole-nd5xt Yup same. That was the one question I regret not asking since the people in my position kept leaving every two years. I’m over two years into this job and now I know why
Totally relate to “you’re on your own.” I stayed with that company anyway, but realized later that the entire company culture was like this. Poor management skills all around.
Same. Definitely agree with that phrase.
It's amazing to me that companies like this last for any length of time.
Happened to me at my last job. So glad I stayed less than a year. The environment was extremely toxic and the role was not as described. I had a small hunch something was wrong during my first month or two but I kind of thought it was in my head. I’m never ignoring my instincts if something doesn’t feel right again.
I usually give it at least a couple weeks, but after that if it’s still miserable and toxic it’s good to leave. Screw a whole year feeling like you’re drowning, barely scraping by with energy levels in the shitter from how demanding the job is, not being able to see family cause you’re always working or commuting.
I experienced toxicity within 2 days.
another buzzword is "we need someone to hit the ground run" or "we don't want to babysit". Essentially they don't want to train at all. also if you have started and tell them you have an appointment after 3p, and they expect you to come back, they are full s&*t. now if you are willing to take any job to pay bills, don't stress and work at steady pace but still respect your time.
Yes! Such a good flag you want watch for in the interview process!
When someone in a hiring position says “we don’t want to babysit” it’s insulting because as an adult, I never expected to be babysat and just the implication that I would expect that, unless someone pointed it out to me, rubs me the wrong way. Yeah, maybe that person had a bad experience with a helpless employee, but that doesn’t justify being prejudiced with job candidates
I mean, yeah, that term is probably really code for “we have no time to train you,” but expecting training isn’t expecting to be babysat
The first contract job I got, I was told on my first day "You learn by asking around." To an extent, this is true. But there wasn't even a training manual or orientation week to teach me anything about the job itself. Plus, many of the existing employees were self-centered pricks and thought too much of themselves, despite their low positions in the heirarchy. It was a toxic environment overall. Plus the nonsensical paperwork system (which didn't seem logical in my mind) was the last straw. I quit before my contract ended.
@@thismissivemisfit yeah my biggest red flag at one employer was when the big boss was used to doing mathematical calculations by hand in 2020. and when i told the owner about buying software to do the job way faster, my supervisor gets threatened and lays me off.
Thanks to this channel and Life After Layoff I'm now out of my toxic workplace and in an awesome job that pays almost double my last salary. No red flags yet, but I'm still on high alert because of my last job.
If you have been BURNED badly it is really difficult to believe anything about the next workplace
I undertake temporary work When they tell me that they are friendly and go down the bar together, that's a red flag to me. You shouldn't have to be be told that they are friendly.
yeah i dont want to spend time with my coworkers. specially more so not on my own dime.
YES! The "on your own" thing! I've been working for about 3 mos. at a job and have been desperately asking for some help and clarity about what it is I'm supposed to be doing and nobody knows. I feel like my job description 1. changed from what I was hired for and 2. changes every day 3. there are different expectations of me from everyone I speak to. It's excruciating and I'm already so ready to leave.
Also, I've already seen about 5 people come and go in my short time there so there's that
Leave
@mercedeswilkins9085 I did! Found something better about 4 months ago and I'm a lot happier there so far
I just received full clarity on my role 5 months in, and now that I know what I don’t know and I’m asking for help, I don’t get the help I was told I’d receive if I just spoke up. I’m so over it!
Yup! This happened to me at an old company! Bait and switch, I was on my own, no true training (a straight "dump & run" of responsibilities), & to add insult to injury, 2 weeks into the job the guy who hired me announced his 2 week resignation!!
Lmao!! The manager who hired me got fired TWO WEEKS into my employment!! I was like omg 🤣
Same the current job I start back in June the manager moved to another department 2 weeks after I started. And surprise surprise there has been no replacement. So guess who gets to take on part of the responsibilities!
Good to know the guy who hired you approved you because he didn't give a shit who he hired because he was on his way out anyway. I was in a similar boat where the guy who hired me left like a few months later.
I got hired within two days of interview and the girl I was replacing was leaving in a week and half. Training was one week cause she was too busy; she didn't even do proper client handover. I shared an office with another long term employee and on the first day of work, she told me I should leave and get out while I can lol. She also broke down and cried while talking to me, reciting a past work trauma from a previous manager 😅
The ending right there is proof to leave
I had this happen to me in a law firm many years ago. I was hired as a paralegal, but when I started my job, I was relegated to doing secretarial work "as a way to prove myself." Well I sucked at being a secretary, but I was a very good paralegal. I left after a few months.
This happened to me last month with a new job that seemed fine on paper and a manager that seemed reasonable during the interview. It turned out to be a nightmare on the first day: red flags going up left and right, bait and switch related to the job description and no training like I've ever experienced. And an almost hour long commute.
Basically a sink or swim enviroment with an abusive boss. I was out of there after only about two weeks since it got worse and worse each day. Staying in a toxic work enviroment thinking it will magically get better is a bad idea from experience.
Listen to actions not words indeed. Also listen to your instinct if things feel off during the interview.
I'm glad you made a fast escape!
I have the same problem and will be putting out my resume in January.
Yes watch how they behave!
Actions show intentions!
One job I had lied about remote work days. This same job gave me no training, I had to figure everything out on my own…which I did! And they still weren’t satisfied 🤷🏽♀️ when I left, my position became a revolving door. Toxic AF leadership ✅
I relate 100% because I just went through this the past 2 months. My psycho ex-boss would call her employees at all hours of the day and/or night if they didn't meet an unreasonable deadline. There was one hour of horrible training and you were up shits creek if you didn't understand. I was told the job would be remote but after my first day I was told I would be in the office full time. Just one lie after another.
@@rocker76m88 yes! My ex boss would call on my day off and fake apologize for it. She took no accountability, everything was my fault! As a leader, you are responsible for training your people. Employees can’t ask questions they don’t know to ask.
@@katjcoaching exactly 💯
@@rocker76m88 that sounds horrible. I’m kind of dealing with whether I should quit or not.
@@Moose185 If it's effecting your mental and physical health then start going on interviews elsewhere
Great discussion 👍 this happens a lot in reality. This is why "job hopping" is an outdated concept. People should take their career life in their own hands. Don't be afraid. Don't waste your time and life in an unfit working environment. Keep looking, find your spark.
Well I’m 3 days in training at a new job, My job title is totally different than what I applied for as well as responsibilities. I also found out there is a lot of turnover. I’m so annoyed!!! 🚩🚩🚩🚩
Company name?
Banking/finance?
Same here! Did you end up finding a new job?
What did you end up doing?
"we're like a family here"
RUN FOREST RUN
One red flag that I've encountered twice in my career is, on your first day, the boss complains to you or warns you about a co-worker that (as you find out later) they refuse to get rid of. That's a sure sign that that person is embedded in the company, usually through a family connection, or just plain nepotism. You are going to end up doing the embedded co-worker's job for them at your cost (in unpaid overtime, stress, maybe not getting a raise), and you will ultimately get the blame for not doing your co-worker's job for them (plus your own job) good enough, and then you will lose your job. If you see this embedded co-worker thing, start re-interviewing at other places right away.
Good tip. This was on my mind and you gave me the affirmation I need.Thank you.
True. I worked a job where the manager’s best friend worked under her, supposedly as an equal with me. Basically, the best friend bullied me and walked around like she owned the place. But of course, she did. Who would stand up to or challenge the boss’s best friend?
This is why I love temping. I’ve always done it 30 years. You figure figure things out & get out before it gets weird.
Such a good post. Thank you!
I’m a month into what I thought looked like a dream job on paper and during the interview process, only to realize once I started that the company is toxic AF and people are quitting and taking stress leave weekly. They talked about positive culture, support and communication during the interview, but didn’t clarify that this is what was currently lacking and required me to be the face of the new regime… and putting it all the responsibility on me. Needless to say I’m immediately looking for work elsewhere.
I am in the same boat and will be quitting this weekend.
Bait and switch !! No proper onboarding, no time to explain things, my training was to ask and ask. Making mistakes and watching people panic because of a beginner mistake. I have lots of experience but their company process is different. I've helped new colleagues and they still work at my former employer. So i can say that this is very very bad i have never trained people like this.
It just happened to me. I held out and tried to make the best of it. No training, everyone was new or out with covid. I thought it would get better but it got worse. The job became impossible to do. So I got fired Friday. I was working up to 60 hours a week so I couldn’t have worked more then that. I’m 56 not 26.
I don’t want my old job back, it was toxic and more importantly didn’t pay enough for me to live.
60 hrs? That’s a living hell
@@evilbabyhag Yes it was a living hell. I worked straight through a night and next day. All that did was make them expect that again. Their google rating is now 1.8. I have a new job that’s less work and more money and it’s not a living hell.
60 hours a week and they still couldn't pay you a decent wage? That horrible. Glad you are out of there in spite of getting fired.
@@christinabrenneman7641 the wage was okay but they lied to me about the job. It just wasn’t physically possible. They gave me properties to manage that were more than an hour away and not even close to each other. Then I’m told I’m supposed to go to each one once a week, and do their board meetings and run the day to day business isn’t possible. After I left their Google rating became 1.8. They were ruining my reputation.
I interviewed for a job at a company I didn't know was toxic. I asked the HR woman for a mentor. This horrible woman suggested two ppl she knew had reputations for intimidating and abusing woman. She knew! She admitted it months later. Those two men had bad reputations for years. There were so many complaints about them. Why, why would she do that? It's insanity.
This video is spot on! I should have quit my last job right away based on these red flags, but I was focused on viewing challenges as opportunities for growth and failed to recognizing a bad situation for what it was...and it only got worse. I hope this video saves many people from falling into the same trap I did.
Interviewd for an advertised "full time" position. Passed the interview with flying colors. Received the offer in writing, it said "the position is intended to be part time since it is the nature of the industry" (which could be true). I accepted it without question because I was too trusting, and I was being stupid / naive. Four weeks in: the first week was OK, I banked some OT. The second week, I worked a mere 5 hours. Third, a mere 25 hours. Now on the 4th, I haven't worked for 10 days!
I feel disgusted by this practice. I feel disappointed and betrayed. But I must take responsibility, learn my mistake, and screen / evaluate my future employers as thoroughly as they do me! This is horseshit.
I never got burned that bad, but I naively trusted an employer who assured me they would fully train me, and that was total bullshit. "Here's a legal pad, take notes" was the full extent of their training.
were you santa? that would have been a clue
Anytime a manager is ambiguous/vague about giving you a full-time spot or promotion, it's almost a dead giveaway you're not going to get it.
I work retail and anytime I ask my manager about the promotion process he's happy I'm interested, but at the same time he'll use witty comments to deflect the conversation.
I joined a new company November 2020 and I noticed immediately that there were some red flags. I did stick to it for a year and I am ready to get out! I was hired as a Web Developer but my entire year I have only developed about 15% of my time there. I felt something in my gut when I was interviewing but I also was excited for a new opportunity after 5 years at a previous company. Listen to your gut!
Always read the reviews for the company!! It will tell you a lot!
Point 5 - very relatable. 3 weeks into a new job. I emailed my resignation today (Monday) and I'm not going back. Sick of poor management. Sick of empty promises. And I'm sick to death of management acting like they know what they are doing when they don't have a clue! Haha.
"Day One. You're on your own." Been there done that!
I was hired to be the main Tech Support guy for that local office. No predecessor to train me, no superior tech person to ask questions too, and no system layouts/schematics. In fact, I was there to explain to the boss how things in computer system worked. Was not there very long.
Few companies train properly anymore. It has gotten ridiculous.
Have hope and faith in yourself. You will find a better job out there. I have had quite a few toxic jobs in my life. Never give in and keep going.
My most recent job that I just resigned from last month only lasted 4 weeks after finding out I was working for a small failing computer repair business as a computer repair tech. What makes things worse, the owner of the Computer Repair shop is same guy that also owns an HVAC business under the same name. He doesn't work on computers and expected me to pretty much run the computer shop all by myself and do all the marketing for both his computer repair and HVAC business to bring in more traffic and get the phones ringing. It's not my responsibility to help market a company that the owner negicated nor it I agreed to marketing his business during the interview process. I gotten the hell out of there and landed a real IT job in the enterprise world working for a Aerospace and Defense company.
Jennifer. Great video. I could write an entire essay on the "You're on your own" thing, a common feature of BS jobs.
I watched this video for affirmation for myself. In June, I left a long term job tor try to get myself out of my doldrums and wanted to a new opportunity that I’d been pursuing. Everything looked great on paper: higher pay with the potential for a raise after my first thirty days, it was early morning which meant I’d be off sooner in the day, and getting me out of the typical work setting by getting out and seeing sights throughout the day. But that’s where the good ended. Red flags from day one. Then pay they told me was lower than what I agreed to and they said “well, we have it written down.” I felt rushed in that they were trying to throw me to the wolves as quickly as possible, and there were no breaks (lunch or small breaks), with longer than eight hour shifts for back breaking work. I left after four days and went back to my old job. I’m grateful that I at least tried it. Made me realize what I never want to do.
I accepted a job offer back in 2012 and started in January 2013. I felt depressed after my first few days - always a bad sign! They provided practically no training, the work environment was cutthroat, and the orientation was two hours long. I was put in front of an unfamiliar software program, and required to figure out how to use it in four hours! It took me four days. After four months I decided to look elsewhere.
I've had this situation so many times, and found the only times it has worked out is when I have worked alone or worked through an Agency, so I can just walk away when things aren't right. The problem is very much to do with my having more strengths than those around me. I've come to expect it. Working for myself is the only answer.
My hiring manager said I would see a massive raise around 2 years at the job. He was right - I received a massive raise when i quit the department I originally worked in and got hired in a new department. He eventually became my boss in the new department, too! :)
My nightmare job story:
I travelled to another city for an interview for the position of molecular biologist. I got accepted for the role.
The week before I moved I was informed that they had changed my position to senior lab tech, but they would keep the same salary and responsibilities.
When I arrived they presented me with a completely different list of responsibilities.
The coworkers were very aggressive and borderline rude. On day 10 I was written up for missing work from another department that they told me to leave to another worker in a written form (!). And another coworker simply said she is not coming to work until I quit.
I escaped 2 months later.
Please, stay away from deceptive employers. They do have something to hide.
Many companies have trash training these days..no matter how much you ask they train in crash courses
I wish I had seen red flags that my boss was a huge control freak in the interview but honestly there weren't many. A little impatience, that was all. But I basically work in a prison now where my every action is scrutinized and evaluated. I never understood how important freedom is to working productively. Never again.
4:39 I graduated during Rona and got a job like that. It worked for me:
1) I don't see my boss
2) I'm not monitored
3) I am not evaluated on any metrics
So, I come to work at 12pm and leave at 3. I learned HTML/CSS/JavaScript in my free time. I built tools that auto tracked inventory, complete financial reports, and present you with digital files/information based on where you are in the building.
By having a job with no supervision and complete control, I was able to design and implement whatever I wanted. I'm now looking for a new job. I want a 30% pay bump and I now have the resume to get that
@@drunkdonutboy Oh yah that was the situation "no direction, training, communication or expectations and just "figuring it out."
@@camadams9149 well aren't you a prick congratulations I guess
I got a bait & switch after 7yrs of employment. Politely explain your end goal, reassert your version of reality, revisit end the goal and back away. Matter was quickly resolved in my case.
Been wanting to quit since the day I started. I had vacation planned since I started and then they switched and told me I can’t take my vacation. Another one is how much work we actually do, not to mention I wasn’t even trained properly since I started. Was promised Monday to Friday and now it’s Monday to Saturday and mandatory overtime. Totally regret even coming the first day.
Always take a planned vacation. Stand up for yourself. They do that to everyone. Plus people respect you more when you give a firm no ( while doing your job well).
New job Red Flag: Your new coworkers seem confused or startled by your education, previous job experience, or how you approach the actual work that you're doing. This is a sign that you are not with an employer that operates in any sort of familiar way or, very likely, in an environment of professional standards for the industry. What I'm describing isn't a rude, suspicious, or judgemental reaction from coworkers. I'm talking about having applied for a job at a company that does work in your familiar field and your interview felt professionally "familiar", but the "on-the-ground" employees make it clear that they don't understand how/why you were hired or how your background fits with their workplace.
This has happened to me 2 or 3 times in my career and it is absolutely the biggest, earliest warning sign that tells me to get out of that employment situation ASAP!
I took a salary position where I gave clear expectations as to my work hours so I could still participate and potentially compete with my gyms bjj team. I have worked 12+ hour days often 6 days a week since then and had to quit my hobby. I also often have to deal with unsavory people as I am a bar manager and just yesterday got myself in the middle of a large fight trying to toss out problematic guests. I walked away angry, tired, and bloody. I am also not trusted to do my job because my boss is a control freak who think she is the only person who is capable and competent. I have more experience than her. Worst job ever.
Red flags from Orientation but I ignored my instincts hoping it was going to get better. First quarter in and my gut says RUN!!
With the heavy workload and expectation for workers to work thru the holidays in addition to the usual 40 hours is unhealthy.
I can totally relate to this video even though I’ve been with the company for 1 year already I now know I should have left sooner. I am now job searching and ensuring that if I see those red flags again I will leave sooner. Thanks for the video!
same here, good luck
I recently left a job. That was amazing in many ways. But offered no life balance. Even on ur days off u were expected to check emails. Thankfully, i had a new job lined up. Where my hours are more responsible. But glassdoor had reviewes stating that the company didn’t offer work life balance. I shouldn’t had ignored the reviews.
They can't make you do shit on your day off without paying you. That's illegal.
I was hired as a clinica research coordinator for a company in Phx, Az. The trial was the covid vaccine for children. I was sat in an office my first day without a computer, phone, or training agenda. When asked what my training entailed, I was told to enjoy not having to work and still get paid. (SMH) In addition, the office manager would bad-mouth the company and CEO. I knew I would have to get another job lined up but still wanted to get as much knowledge of the trial as I could. However, the last straw was when another CRC was in their office vaping marijuana and gratuitously swearing in front of the subjects. They would clock each other in and out and asked me to lie for them numerous times. Glad its over. The problem is, some of these “at will” companies really think they can do whatever they want. I am not sure if you have done a video on this but I would sure appreciate it.
Yes, no hr dept, no training or assigned duties, no direction from mgmt, two toxic coworkers who boss you around all the time..one started when I did, one is very elderly but a compulsive, narcissistic talker etc who’s already insulted me twice in front of clients ( as a joke), receiving complaints on phone about process errors in our company..etc..
Only been there a month but too fed up now and I can’t unsee what I’ve seen..
In my 69 years of experience I have only worked in toxic jobs. I could write a book on bad management and bad employees.
Wow big 👏👏great👍
Can you share how you deal that toxic environment.great person 👍
This happened to me, a role was advertised as a Publishing Assistant and when I showed up on day 1 they were referring to the role as Sales. They fired me the next day for not being savy enough in Sales. Trash company, I should've left the moment this happened. It was a red flag cause they then tried to resist paying my salary 😒
@Douglas FarshteyHell yea that’s the point of the job. We ain’t volunteers. The fuck 😂
Wow you literally just described what I'm going through. All five red flags and already negotiating for my old job back.
Current job ......in less than a week will former job....I knew the names of the people who quit before me before I knew the names of my current co-workers . A huge red flag
I left a company that lied to me about my hours, I was supposed to be working a couple of hours per week but it turns out that it was a couple of hours per month. I gaslit myself saying that maybe I heard wrong, or I wrote down the wrong hours. I loved working there but the lack of financial support was awful, after a year I felt such a guilty conscience (thank God!) for staying at a place that lied to me that I forced myself to quit. What I found out when I gave my resignation letter was that another coworker (hired the same time as me) had quit the previous week. I have been very discouraged ever since.
Jennifer........you nailed it. Boy that is what I walked into my first day as recruiter. I walked into an office, no boss, no desk, no computer. The 2 current employees did not even know I was starting. I literally trained and used my own phone and computer for the next 2 weeks. My boss never reached out to me until 2 weeks later. It was HOOOOOOORRRRIBBBLE. I should have ran out the door that first day. I lasted almost a year. Yes, you are right. They set me up and others for failure and as the "fall guy." Everyone......run don't do what I did and stay.
I wish I had seen this a few months ago! I thought I needed to give it time but I’m four months in and it is not a good fit. I should have ran for the hills when I first started.
I actually had a interview where they told me they were not hiring anymore for the position advertised. They wanted to hire me for a lower position with lower pay. Even though I was qualified / over qualified for the job advertised. Seriously
I've experienced a bit of all these on my current job. I'm nearing the end of my probation period and have set my resignation date likewise.
Amen!
I was literally told to figure out for myself most of the questions during "on boarding".
I resigned today based on your advice for the toxic manager and take your advice and made it professional resignation I didn't till any negative feedback on my toxic guy
I am applying for a different jobs
Yes, I have been through this! It makes people quit. I have gone ahead and trained people when it wasn't my job so they were not alone and I had coworkers to help shoulder the work. That kind of set up that you have described and I have been through is a complete set up for failure.
OMG thank you Jennifer for this video. This is what happened to me. What did my boss once tell me - "YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE BULL BY THE HORNS!" I didn't even know where the bull was held. IT ONLY GOT WORSE FROM that moment.
😂😭 “I didn’t even know where the bull was held”
I'm about to resign from my new job after a month haha they were shady, kept everything hush hush, found out their turn over rate was bad, some co-workers were prejudice, and the boss is a big baby. I'm just waiting for my old job back haha great job explaining the red flags!
Thank you. That’s exactly what I was looking for : “to help figure out if you need more time to adjust or if you just need to get out of there” been at my new job since November and crying right when I get home more days than not (which hasn’t happened at any other job. 🚩 )
Put my feelings into words thanks
Listening to less than and hour of your videos has helped me more than I can explain here. You have opened my eyes. Your content is awesome! Thank you Career Bestie👍🏾👍🏾
Few years ago I had been in this company, yes there was an onboarding but it was very surface, turned out it was more than that . There was so much more that I needed to know. When I asked questions, they answered but talked behind my back.
When I got laid off from UPS, I was looking to start on a different path. A recruiter suggested a medical billing office "that provides all training." Despite the low starting wage, I thought, 'awesome, if they train, I should be able to get another coding/billing job elsewhere if it doesn't pan out since they're always in demand.' WELL...training consisted of them handing me a legal pad and pen and me watching someone else do it while I take notes. 😐 Management was predictably awful, and I suffered through it for 2 years until my dog got sick of my miserableness and essentially matched it until enough was enough. I switched to legal asst/paralegal in 2016 and I've never been happier as an adult.
Three years ago I was new at the job I currently am still in and there were absolutely the first two red flags mentioned. 😣 If I weren't in such a bad mindset after my company closed down, causing me to find this job, I would have been better at not letting these slide. I'm currently in school and can't leave this job until I've finished. It will be one more year but at least I have the exit strategy in motion! I started therapy as well so hopefully I'll make it through one more year of it! I luckily have some great co-workers.
Thank you for that clarification. Even though you have never met many of us you offered clarity and practical advice.
You just described quite a few SoCal companies I have worked for sadly. The sign of a good company is when your manager is happy to see you and tells you "I am here to help you succeed"
I had one of these situations, (on my own)they expected me to know everything, the receptionist had to show me how to navigate the very confusing & convoluted website. She was trying to get me to do her job & when I told her I had to learn mine, she got mad at me, yelled at me & then got promoted & was trained by the person leaving before taking on her assignment. I left that place but it cost me my health & mental well-being.
I'm so sorry you went through that, Christina.
This felt just a little bit like you're talking to me. I came into this company as a specialized expert in a relatively narrow field, they had never employed anyone with my qualifications though they sometimes had entertained the idea and did have a few experiences of employing workers who come from somewhat similar fields and backgrounds. I've taken all sorts of additional tasks on my plate just to spice it up a little, but in the end I feel completely underutilized. As the whole business structure was planned from the ground up with different ideas in mind, there still remain some unsolvable logistic issues stopping me from doing work in my specialized field full time, so a lot of the time I end up doing essentially menial tasks with a somewhat wider view of the horizon compared to my fellow workers. A part of the additional tasks I acquired involve learning new methods and then teaching the rest of the staff how to do them, but it ultimately feels like an exercise in futility. The pay isn't exactly bad - Though I feel for some of my co-workers who do more or less the same job at about a 30-40% pay cut - so I can afford to sit tight and wait for a better job opportunity, but after 6 months I'm feeling increasingly done with everything and just want to move on. I was thinking of holding out until 12 months or so to have a bit more impressive line to add to my CV, but it's gradually getting more annoying.
Ms. Brick. Continue to be the beacon of truth in today's job market. We need your videos.
"On your Day 1, you're on your own." - this so true with most software development companies. The 2 companies I have been with were both like that. As a certified six sigma individual, I know that work instruction documents are very important in doing your job so that one would know if you are doing your tasks within the boundaries of what is "acceptable" for them. But due to its absence, I was later deemed to be under performing. The funny part is their performance metrics are also based on gut-feel, not based on objective data. Thank God I'm outta there! They're beyond saving anyways. If they don't change, it's a matter of time for them to sink.
Lessons Learned: Set proper expectations with your boss on the first day.
I just quit a job after 2 weeks because of no structure for the role. It was a side project that grew into a role because of business demands. My manager gave me a background of what they had been doing to fulfill the duties of the role, but it was up to me to grab and run with it, without much assistance and direction. Having been supported extremely well by the manager in my previous role, I immediately recognized that this was not for me. Requesting a meeting to discuss this was met with much frustration and irritability from my manager and hers. I was told flat out that this was the job and I was expected to be able to make an impact and deliver with autonomy. Needless to say, this was far above my competency level and I quit on the Wednesday of my 2nd week!
Something I've also learned from jobs so far: always ask how ppl communicate in the job. If they say email and meetings, that's a red flag that the roles are pretty divided and the workers aren't interested in knowing you
What would be a green light for you? Which mediums are best?
Like they are going to be totally honest with you 😂😂😂
I just started a new job. The very first week there were "issues". No direction or training. I have already been in to HR once. She was helpful, but it isn't her problem. It is the bad management. There were several people who quit before I was hired on. I feel like my boss is expecting me to "fix" his problems. We have already had one meeting about the lack of training I am experiencing. So he is aware of it. Whether or not he cares is another thing. It remains to be seen.
Started a new job last week with no training, and a mountain of unfinished work from the previous employee who split. Managers hate one another and no one ever knows whats going on. But "you'll figure it out" they suggested. Resigned a week later. Know your worth! 👋
Hi, thank you for the video. I started a new job 2 months ago, and for sure, have a number 3 situation. I had to onboard my self, find and solve all the issues and my boss was telling me:" it is a you problem, I don't have the time to help/train you". Mind you, I cannot do most of the job without a proper training (IT tools, reportings). I came to the conclusion that the persons who left this position ( 2 consultants and a fixed person) were wright. I have to move on. It is not for me. I don't want to be yelled at for stuffs I cannot know expecially if I tried but there is no support AND nobody should be yelled at or treated without respect.
You cannot succeed if they do not enable you to succeed. I'm so sorry you're going through this.
That is so hard when coworkers/bosses treat you like you should already know things so early in the job. It can really make you doubt yourself and if it starts to make you feel bad about yourself, getting out is the best decision.
My boss completely forgot I was coming in for the first day. Then I learned that my position isn’t actually permanent, although it was advertised as such. Every idea of mine is disregarded and simple tasks become week long problems. Getting out ASAP!
In my old job, they used to talk about how they were ISO 9001 certified (they have it front and centre on their website) and how important that was to them. Yet when I started, there were no formalised work instructions for my role. As I was training, I was writing my own notes, as the existing notes were so lacking in detail and missing steps that they were useless. In the end, I ended up writing the work instructions for my role. Yet somehow throughout this, they maintained their ISO accreditation. Even when audited for it.
@@hroz8630 Yeah, that's pretty much my experience. It took me way longer to pick up the job because of it. I actually liked the job once I did but it turned out to be not such a great place in the end, so you have to decide whether this triggers it for you based on everything else.
In the interview I asked what could I expect from my first few months as a junior data analyst and what they expected from me. They said the first 6 months would be training and analysing raw data. First day at work turns out they are giving me 2 senior projects cause the senior is going to another team and everyone has their own projects so the team doesnt really work together on projects. And the training i had was literally a udemy course from an account they provided and shadowing the senior whilst he did the absolutely basics of the daily duties. Team members and manager are nice and I ask for help when I need and sure I have learned some stuff, but the fact it was not what I was expecting or perceived from what I heard in the interview and the pressure to perform to their expectations within the first month ( I was told by my manager he already expected me to be thinking 2 steps ahead, despite the fact Im still trying to come to terms with the processes, the company, the job and learning what they do 3 steps behind - my only source being my laptop cause its remote position)- and being constantly reminded how I joined the best team of the department... it screwed up my mental health. I had never felt more anxious and depressed before. Had sleepless nights of constantly thinking about quitting (even my free time was spent googling is it okay to quit early) and had gotten out of bed sometimes at 2/3am to try to fix whatever issue there was in the project because of the pressure I was feeling from everyone. I even called my mum crying from the anxiety that had overwhelmed me - I never did that before . Didnt help this is a job back in my home country so Im far from my close family... Im quitting and its only been 2 months. As soon as the idea was set in my mind I finally relaxed knowing I wouldnt be here for much longer. I feel like a failure cause I graduated in 2020 and this was my first "real" job (I worked retail throughout 2021 to save money and help my family) and I always perceived myself to be a hardworking person who would be sucessful... now I am about to be unemployed again and terrified I wont find another junior or grad role and scared I have possibly just wasted the only oportunity I might have. For now Im trying to be positive and decided to do what I came to my home country to do - heal, spend time with family here, do some courses to see what I actually like and dont like and work on myself. Im even thinking of using the little savings I have to travel somewhere. I will do my best and work hard to find another job once Im back in the UK. I chose to care for my mental health instead of pursuing this career right now and although the future scares me I hope this experience will help me in the future. I do hope I quit for the right reasons and not because I was overwhelmed. At the same time I know deep down this just wasnt the right fit for me...
Im sorry for the rant.
Long story short. Good onboarding, proper training and clear communication of the job in the interview stages is something that all companies should have.
With my previous job I was blatantly lied to on the interview. I was told that most people stay there a very long time. I'm assuming the idea is that everybody likes the job so much that they never leave. I was originally on a team of 7 including one contractor. However, in my first two weeks somebody left. The first month in another person left. Half a year in another person left. First year in another person left. A month after that I left. Less than a month after I left the contractor decided to leave. A few months after that one of the new guys that started when I was about 8 months in left when he was a year in. There was only one lifer on the team there with 15 years and unfortunately it's only because she undervalues herself. Luckily I'm happy at my new place. It's just disgusting how some places play with people livelihoods.
I feel seen. I’m experiencing 2/5 things at my current job and I’m stuck. I gotta continue applying
Wow!!!! I can relate to all these signs. You are officially my career bestie❤❤❤
Be careful of any job that you can walk off the street and get
Or when you find out the pay you were promised is based on 100 percent commission and sales.
I was TOLD that I would be starting a "career path", meaning base + commission, and when I was due to start I was given links to companies I was to represent. ALL charged UP front access fees. This was definitely 1099/commission ONLY. Basically bait and switch and I was LIVID as I knew this guy from a previous job, and he LIED about everything.
Haha this video is great! They told me that 30 people turned over and while a few got promoted the rest left! I ended up staying there for 4 years but I saw every toxic red flag there was. The nightmare job had every red flag you discussed. LOL!
Got a job at a nursing school working as an EA. After a couple of weeks they announced one of the things not included in my job description, but was mandatory, was to let the students practice on me when learning to give shots. I quit right away.
Wow, that's really weird and scary. Glad you got out.
This bait and switch thing, especially with job role is very common thing unfortunately in many companies.
For me a red flag is when they rush the recruitment process...I just spent a month in a company that promised me a back office job working from home mainly with emails. They asked for my documents after a swift phone interview...the same day I delivered the documents they already started training...which was a waste of time...and I realized that it was a call center...and on top of that...the system never worked. I quit after my first week.