Who can FIX Man Utd? | Ranking Man Utd manager candidates | Saturday Social ft Pieface & Allcott
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Smithy and Joe are joined by James Allcott and Jack ‘Pieface’ McDermott on this week’s Saturday Social. After a heavy defeat against Liverpool last weekend, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has been under huge pressure this week. We take a look at the candidates to replace Solskjaer if he were to go, and debate who would be best fit for the role.
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Brendan Rodgers above Antonio Conte.....absolute madness.
Conte has made Victor Moses, Marcos Alonso, Giaccherini, Darmian, Young instantly championship winners. All struggled before he arrived, and after he left. He can coach.
Im a leicester fan and i still think this is obvious lol
English bias
@@anindyabhardwaj2569 Rodgers ain't even English tho
@@anindyabhardwaj2569 BRENDAN RODGERS ISN'T ENGLISH. STOP saying ENGLISH BIAS to EVERYTHING! He is northern Irish. Who looks stupid now?
@@anindyabhardwaj2569 He's Northern Irish not English
Manager odds
Adam McKola 3/1
Andy Tate 5/1
Mark Goldbridge 7/1
Flex 10/1
Sean Dyche 13/1
Goldbridge in
Goldbridge would take Man u to the Champ
Don’t forget ronaldo
16/1
@@sthamby10_alt26 😂😂
@@sthamby10_alt26 Ronaldo isnt listed because its already in the terms & conditions...bottom of the page... *Any Managerial appointment is with the understanding that every decision made is approved by Cristiano Ronaldo.
How can someone put ole and Mancini in same tier and also Brendan Rogers above conte!! I don't know what you guys are smoking but I want some😆
They have a limited world view. It's like when Gary Neville said Italy wouldn't progress to the final of the European Championships because "who had they played?" And then they lose to this side they'd written off. Or the constant touting of the EPL as the best league in the world. It's a great league no doubt but Spanish teams have been more successful in European competition in the last 2 decades. Many English people are massively overconfident about their own abilities & knowledge. We call it English Exceptionalism. Rodgers is a good guy but he doesn't have Conte's record. What he does have is an British name.
@@sdemosi Gary Neville saying it really doesn’t say much, he also said United would win last Sunday
This list is in terms of who would best fit the role of Utd coach. It’s NOT a list on who the best manager is outright
Do you not know how this ranking works? Best fit for Man United
@@TooMuchFlashing but he's an influential pundit and his misguided opinions steer people in the wrong direction.
"I dont think 3 at the back would work"
Ole: hold my tactics-
It was a 442 if you look at how they defended
It was only 532 in the attack
@@LieTown1996 It was a 3-5-2 when United defended
@@imo098765 it wasnt if you go back and look. The tactic was to have a 2 man zonal marking per player on attack.
@@imo098765 bruno would drop into the RWB position whenever the ball shifted to the LW of our defense
Steve Bruce should be on the list! Man United were forever telling Newcastle fans that he was a good manager
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Mark Hughes, Steve Bruce, Wayne Rooney should be the contender for new Man Utd manager job if the board want to play United Way like Ole always said.
he's man united legend btw.
@@intoeverlastingfire8543 Exactly mate, perfect for the job. He also loves a giggle after a defeat
A bit like Newcastle fans going around pretending they are a big club. The reality is Steve Bruce is Newcastles level.
Give it Scholesy 😉 Thanks for having me on guys!
I subscribed to your channel 👍🏼
@@himalayas1647 Welcome to the community!
He just needs to get his foot in the door and he will do well in my opinion
Scholsey made a career on giving to others. So i'm not sure on that one.
Why do you love Ole so much James? You put him at C, but the guy is woeful.
The worst possible result for Man Utd is a convincing win against Spurs.
Then the manager will be secure
Say no more
Aged well 😂
Ole: hold my Hansa 🍺
Ole turns into prime Alex Ferguson when he's about to get the sack.
Tell you what
James talks a lot of sense, he should be on more often
Agreed.. meanwhile you have pieface who’s entire knowledge of football comes from fifa basically just filling a seat haha
@@BigLucs nah pal Pie goes home and away to watch argyle
@@uptheshakers3665 we’re talking prem and top level managers here mate
As an Ajaxfan i can confirm Ten Hag would be a great pick for Man Utd, however he won't leave half way through the season.
And he’s basically coming what a dream come true👏🏾
these guys keep saying 'this is man utd and every young manager should go through one more mid table club before getting the big one' and yet have the audacity to put Ole above them who is the joke of the manager and is not even close to Eddie Howe.
then they put brendan above conte which help me realise this was a joke of a discussion
Eddie howe is a very low level premier league/high level championship manager. Ole is a midtable manager
Jonathan Liew, The Guardian 30/10: "Manchester United must finally dump Fergusonism and make a clean break"
Facts
You forget sometimes that what has made United popular over the past 150 years is that they are exciting to watch.
Don't get Conte or someone who is anti everything Manchester United are.. just because people are putting pressure on.
Get the right person, or wait until the right person is available.
Didn't work with Mourinho, won't with him.
The style kills me.
Awful.
@@braindonor8753 won three trophy’s in less the two years
@Phil Stephen did they not look exciting at weekend?
I can't understand the big deal about them playing on the counter?
How many non attackers do Liverpool pick each week?
8.
City don't even pick a centre forward most weeks!
Completely agree with James, talks complete sense that guy.
Ten Hag would be the right candidate. If he would leave Ajax half way through the season when they are doing so well themselves is the other question
Nope conte is hag more Barca type
Ten Hag won't leave Ajax half way through the season, he has already stated this multiple times
Is he the same guy that put brendan Rodgers ahead of Conte?
@@angelosvlahos exactly, spot on
James: “Potter is the hipsters choice”. What a ridiculous statement.
Imagine at the end, Michael Carrick is made the manager 😂
Mckenna’s training sessions are academy level….
The real hilarious part is if he ends up winning trophies 😂😂😂
Never seen a coach look so disinterested during games 😂
Will be Darren Fletcher
@@sheslying7117 never seen a manager sit looking lost in his seat for 85 mins of every game. Klopp and pep 4-0 up are still standing on the touchline barking out orders to their players. Utd are 4-0 down at halftime and this clown in laughing
80 minutes on the clock, 1-2 at home to West hams reserves in the cup and this clown is laughing and joking with opposition backroom staff
About time James allcoat got credit for his tier list
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@@dontread2692 bot + ratio
They're forgetting about the United board with these managers. Ten Hag is used to working with people who are good at their job...
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Liverpool showed mercy n completely slowed down n stopped attacking after 5 with around almost 40 minutes+ of game time still left to be played on the clock‼️💯 ..
Simeone has already proven that he can tactically outclass teams like Liverpool and he’s turned an athlectico Madrid team which was no better than a Sevilla or Valencia into a laliga title winning side and a big contender in champions league he is the best option we can go for imo
NO chance he’s outdat his style of football and tactics would only end in disaster at united no doubt a good manager but he’s definitely not a good fit for united
He won't coach United for one reason, he's Defensive minded and we've done that with Mou in recent time
Plays really boring football but Id say
@@nathanmcguckin9518 still better than Ole
@@drakegeralds699 nobody liked the way Mourinho set us out but at the end of the day he won us trophies because of his experience something ole hasn’t been able to do
Everyone just acting like Ole is sacked. Remember Ole's still at the wheel
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Feel like I'm the only one wanting him to stay. Few bad results and everyone turns into vultures.
@@BradPixelManH Mate 1 point from 12 lost 5 nil to Liverpool he should be gone
@@chase5293 after he finished 3rd and 2nd last 2 seasons?
@@SkullCrusher480 after he spent 400++mil and could win nothing?
Conte and Poch at the same level???? Put some respect on Conte’s name levels above Poch
Conte above the others. He got a limited Chelsea side to win the EPL. That was tactical genius. Rodgers isn't bad but he's only the board's choice because they fear Conte would criticise them. The Utd Board are part of the problem.
Anyone would be an improvement on Ole let’s be real
Hasn't he got 3rd and 2nd in the previous 2 seasons?
@@mikeharvey2129 and? He got 3rd with 66 points because of one good run and was miles off Man City in 1st. Our ambition is to win trophies and he is the reason why we aren’t doing that
So good to see James getting the credit he deserves more and more 👍
This is mad disrespect to some of these managers based on style. I would love to have Conte, Zindane, Simone, Mancini, Allegri or ten Hag at Arsenal.
Allegri mad underrated tb
@@lacho2670 for real, he has been to two Champions League finals unlucky not to win them both but a solid manager nonetheless
@@lacho2670 how's Juve atm?
Guess you haven’t watched Juve this season LOL. Allegri is finished and outdated just like Mourinho.
almost all are B or A-tier so...
Rodgers over Poch lmao. Nobody's a better fit for Utd than Poch at the moment. If you are judging by leagues won, Conte is your man
Poch lol Don make me laugh 😅🤣😂😆😄
Poch teams press alot and guess what man utd teams ain't good at pressing
@@_james_8753 because Ole doesn’t know how to implement a press he literally told the players to chase after the ball that’s why we’re so open
Poch is over rated
Pochetino😂😂😂
Pie face looking for a fight in his stoney 🤣🤣
rogers and ten haag have the benefit of a well-run club behind them who bring in the right players etc. utd dont have that, so will ruin them. only conte can manage, possibly zidane. conte gets success in spite of the board and staff, so he'd be my pick.
@@jljljl5490 i think the days of long-term management in football has ended, especially in big teams, because players change teams quicker, various styles of play available now, and more formations too. given that, having a conte for 2-3 season and getting a league and a couple of cups is perfect for me. also, potter screams moyes tbh :P
We need new owners, new scouts, new coaches and a new manager, maybe even new therapists
I bet u need 300m too. Lol entitled fans 😴
Definitely new contract negotiators, 73 million and 350k a week for a 21 year old. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
James is so good, can see him taking over the likes of David Jones and Kelly Cates he’s *that* good.
Gotta love Pie too
Good luck getting world beaters like Ronaldo, Pogba and Varane respecting a guy like Rogers. Zidane and Conte are the only options.
Seeing Simeone on the same tier as Ole and Potter is just plain disrespectful regardless of supposed style. He his arguably the best manager in word football with what he's achieved at Alt. Madrid. And he is loyal and passionate about his club. They should feel bad.
Ole is better
He couldn't lace Klopp's boots lad, he's still running away from him 🤣
Conte ie the right man, not even close to anyone else being above Conte
Wouldn't want Conte at United. It's Ten Haag or Rogers for me
@@arthurmorgandegen Yh agreed. Ten Haag looks like the best fit.
imagine signing sancho for 75 million but he won't fit into the team, cmon man, it doesn't make sense with the formation he has. All our wingers aren't gonna fit in
@@AM-ct5je I think Ten Haag would be the one tbh. His teams play well both on the ball and off it. Which is what United need.
@@arthurmorgandegen wouldn't want an ex-liverpool manager here to be honest..
Potter as "E" or "D"? I despair. Man Utd deserve 26 years this time
I prefer Potter over ten haag.
Give it to Erik Ten Hag. Great shout! The man's had a few good seasons with Ajax and has absolutely no experience in the Premier League and he's rated as A tier?!?
Completely agree. Remember Frank de Boer also won several Dutch league titles with Ajax and he lasted only 4 games in the Premier League.
@@Quaza14 German football has moved on a lot since then, especially for managers. Maybe read about Ten Haag and his footballing upbringing and tactics, or at least watch his Ajax teams do the business in the CL against much better sides on paper at least.
@@rajazkhan2520 Ajax is not in germany 🙂
@@rajazkhan2520 anyone can win a 1 off game lol. His experience means nothing nor does his tactics or upbringing otherwise these world class players would make decent managers but they hardly ever do. Winning the league with Ajax in Germany is like winning the league with Celtic in Iceland
@@Adityap_99 I know Ajax is not in Germany. i meant he learnt his trade in German football under Pep, and there have been quite a few good mangers that have come out of German football over the last decade.
None of these have kicked a ball in their life
FIFA nerds
And have you mate. The football pundits are worse Gary Neville is ole in😂😂😂
@@ga7889 you don't need to have built a house to know when ones built badly my dude.
James is actually very knowledgeable if you watch his channel, and the others watch plenty of football. It’s Saturday social not MNF what do you expect?
I agree, this is childish playground stuff
Proper melts
Pep Guardiola just said in the dinner table last night that his dream is to managed Paul Pogba, Fred and Bruno; and the only way to do it joining Manchester United.
Ten Haag is the man.
We need to do everything to get him
Aged well 👏🏼
Almost stopped watching putting Rodgers above Conte, what madness is this. Club that wants to win the Champions League and you put a Manager with 2 wins in 18 Champions league games at the top. 🤦
English bias
James is quality as always. Should have him on all the time
He hasn’t even got a coaching badge. He is far from quality.
@@tottenhamhotspurish None of these guys know what they're talking about. May aswell ask a random guy at the pub
@@BradPixelManH - Definitely mate.
@@tottenhamhotspurish put your coaching badges on the table then
@@liamstormont607 - I have one coaching badge. I’ve helped coach kids in the Netherlands with my dad (RIP). I’ve played for my school, Sunday league, and Saturday league, my district, my county and I played for Charlton AFC from the ages of 11yrs to 15 yrs of age.
What are your credentials?
Ten hag would be brilliant for Man Utd he plays good football and has won sliverwere!🤩
Aged well 👏🏼
I tell you what this James allcott fella really knows his stuff. Great seeing him on👍👍👍
Poch can stay where he is lol. He's stinking the place out with all those Top notch players. THANKS , BUT NO THANLS
Exactly! Poch is struggling and didn't win the league last season with Mbappe, Neymar, Di Maria, Marquinhos what is the guarantee he will be any good at United who has a much worse squad.
@@ActuallyAudacity I completely agree, plus I a harder league
Listen, Man United might not thank me but get the contract out, put it on the table. Let him sign it, let him write whatever numbers he wants to put on there, given what he's done since he's come in. Ole's at the wheel, man. He's doing it. He's doing his thing. Man United are back!
Pieface's entire footballing knowledge was learned playing FIFA video games.
tbf the majority of Todays Youth get their Football IQ the same way.... I remember being 12 Years old doing My Paper round on a Saturday with My Earphones from My Walkman glued to My Ears listening out for every Goal and then buzzin for Match of the Day on the Night....
A: No one, cause United is broken
B: Conte, Rogers, Ten Hag
C: Pochettino, Potter
D: Moyes, Zidane, Southgate, Simeone,
E: Solskjaer, Rooney, Martinez, Howe, Allegri
Rogers would be the safe choice but I don't think he would want the job, Conte would also be a safe choice if they want titles. But he's a gamble in the long term. Ten Hag and Potter could be the greatest payoffs but are both gambles and would require time to succeed. Ten Hag would be insane to pick United if he has other options though.
Disagreed with alot of these positions then listened James talk sense and I always end up agreeing. Would love to see him on more shows.
Conte is massively underrated .He is not a short term manager ,he was just unlucky .The squad can play that system ,they are quality players of the highest level that won’t be a problem. The attacking players will get game because Man Utd play in a lot of competitions .Chelsea and Man City are great example of big squads are necessary to compete in every competition .There’s very few players who can play 50 games a season .
Antonio Conte is the best candidate for Manchester United .343 is not a defensive formation ,there’s a way to play possession/attacking football in every formation. Pogba with another midfielder can play in a double 6 with less attacking responsibility and will get a lot of the ball .
Why is Martinez seen as a bit of a flop for Belgium never winning anything, but Southgate is considered good despite not winning anything with an even more talented England team?
Arguably Martinez has won as much, playing better football with a less talented team.
A: Ten Haag
B: Conte, Pochetino, Mancini, Rodgers
C: Zidane, Potter, Simeone
D: Solskjær, Moyes, Southgate
E: Allegri, Martinez, Howe, Rooney
Love the guy w the high pitched voice
I mean you can't really say it takes a lot to take off Messi when the reason was because he was injured. Not like it was purely tactical and plus Icardi did score either of the goals so not much of a direct benefit
Nice to have someone sensible doing the tier lists!
Honestly I have mixed emotions about today's match, I want United to win but I don't want Ole as United's manager 🤦🏾♂️🤷♂️
He won't get sacked if he loses. There's no way he's getting sacked any time soon. Wait till international break
YESSSSS same bro I want us to win but if we lose he’s probably gonna be sacked and then we could start winning matches
@@cloce9090 He won't get sacked.
if ole does not survive then i think Erik ten Hag is my best choice for a few reasons one is his age makes him long term contender, two he has lots of experience has won a few trophies already and he would be someone coming in that will not be influenced or manipulated, he has no fear of putting his foot down,
Why didn't you guys consider Luis Enrique? I believe he can be the perfect solution! He can handle egos, win league and Knockout tournaments. With the players we have currently he can make United unstoppable
Never knew Anne Hegarty wore Stoney clothes. Get in there Governess.
Get the glazers out for starters
It’s literally like sky sports got a bunch of fifa gamers together to talk real football .
Hilarious that Poch gets a B for doing well in the PL, taking them to a Final, subbing off a superstar at half time when this are literally all things Ole has done in the past few months 😂😂.
Watched everything in all seriousness that guy James will be bringing me back
There’s no way potch Is leaving PSG for Man U 🤣 he’s got it set
Psg didn't sell bappe for 160-180 mill just for 1 season and some idiots belive they will allow pochettino to leave lol
Ten hag is the guy to take us forward. If the board is competent enough then go and get him show some balls.
We know they're not so we're never going to get him.
Exactly. But then again looking at United's board, we all know what they're like. So they probably won't.
Ole is a D any day any time
Zidane is an A. Lack of English isn't hindering Bielsa and Leeds
How do you exclude Laurent Blanc?????
A - Zidane
B - Ten Hag, Conte, Allegri, Simeone, Mancini
C - Rodgers, Martinez
D - Ole, Potter, Moyes, Southgate
E - Rooney, Howe
Zidane has won 3 CLs. Nobody can compete with that.
Ok
you guys really disrespect Conte😂
Well, this video didnt age well as far as Conte is concerned. Given that Ole just played a back 5 (in defence) 3 in attack 😂 Brendon Rodgers is a project manager, rebuilding and Top 4 contention. United already have a Tielemans like player in Donny💔
Alcott actually has pretty good ball knowledge.
Anyone here after ten hag was appointed
Yeah
Agree with allcott in terms of Erik ten hag being THE MAN but Ole at C is quite not right
Agree with james, ten haag is the best fit for United, he is coaching player very well, very detail, he build the team, integrate youngster to the first team and ultimately he has good temperament. He might be very patient the amateurism of United board.
He already proved in Europe, he bought ajax to UCL semifinal, only unlucky to be beaten by spurs. He proved his young team could beat madrid/ spurs/ munchen in the past. This year ajax easily beat sporting 1-5 and dortmund 4-0, so he already proved to be able to build good squad even when he constantly loose player every season.
nobodys talking about Ronaldo becoming Player Manager???? get down the Bookies and have a 20 on it, You heard it here first....
The only serious debate should be whether its Conte now or wait for Ten Haag in the summer
Ole needs to stay he is doing a great job at banter fc
The praise Southgate gets compared to the criticism Martinez gets is just not right. Both have a very talented squad. Winning a tournament requires a bit of luck as well
Poch is no better than Ole. Ten Haag stands out for me.
Pie is the reason Brighton drew with liverpool, he was like you dont think i'm good enough? watch me get a better result than Ole at anfield
Potter has the same experience as Ole before Man United but the difference is he actually did a better job and still is
Where does potter finish in the league?
Roy Keane, paul Scholes,Rio Ferdinand
Conte, Rodgers, Ten Haag and Poch are all adequate replacements.
The fact Southgate is ahead of Martinez.
Edit: now Southgate is on the same level as Allegri, apparently.
Southgate isn't good? Given what he's achieved with England, I'd say he's quite good...
@@SkullCrusher480 meh. He has done well to create a harmonious squad however, much like Ole you cannot help but think that with all the attacking talent and just talent in general England has we could play a much better style of football.
Ive said for so long I only want Ten Hag or Poch but Rodgers ain’t a bad shout either..
They should ban fergie from old trafford. Like dragging a ball and chain
3 at the back doesn’t work : wins 3:0 against spurs
How come they overlooked Luis Enrique. I really think it should be between Ten Hag and Luis Henrique.
Ole shouldve started as assistant manager at united under a very good manager like conte or zizou
Thank you for finally putting respect ok Eric ten hag
Conte A and Zidane A Brendan B Mauricio B Ten hag B
All this resistance to Conte from some United fans are because wide players like Sancho, and Rashford might get phased out. United fans gotta remove that attachment from the players and bring a manger who is a proven winner with his own philosophy
Conte or the Ajax manager best choice .💯🔥👌💞🇬🇭⚽
The player for Zidane to control the ball is literally seated on the bench his name is Donny
Keep ole or get Rooney 🤣
Get James back on ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!
with 15 picks i would have thought Laurent Blanc would be among the choices.
Just after one, I mean ONE heavy defeat you should not right him off, just wait for the Spurs result…
They put Solskjaer too high!
Rooney? The guy can't even manage a championship team properly
Stop talking about 'needs to manage bigger clubs first', when Ole managed Cardiff and Molde.
Completely agree with Brendan Rodgers.
I love the fact they're talking about the man United loss against Liverpool at the very start of the video and big mo is just in the back ground
Ten Hag or Zidane
The united way was lost 10 years ago and there is no manager can replicate that , so we need a manager to come in with his style , impliment it and be the united way and be successful with it
Thing is mate that football has moved on, there is no time to implement a long term strategy, it's a game for instant success, cone in win a trophy or two have a barren patch and get sacked for the next one.
It was worse because we actually thought things could be different with that squad