I'll be frank, I would never use such a tower workstation in my work environment unless they are giving free earplugs to prevent ear loss. This workstation will be LOUD as a took off airplane. Prefer liquid cooled tower workstation solutions for a healthier work environment. You should add a B-roll to show how loud is the tower while under load for possible users. Not many are aware of this situation and regrets buying such a system after they hear how loud they work. Mentioning its loudness mostly doesn't resolve unless they hear it ( know it by experience ). This system makes sense if it can be converted to be a rack mounted system by adding rack rails on the bottom and top of the case and put it in a server room if user wants to get rid of the noise. The PSU inside the workstation is Consumer product from FSP. Its model is 2000 Watt "CANON PRO". It has 80 PLUS 230V EU GOLD Certificate ( Doesn't have an efficiency certificate for 100-115 V usage. ) There is also a "CANON" model which doesn't have any 80 PLUS certificate, so be careful if you want to buy it for a DYI workstation.
To get all the functionality of this tower would require a five u case. In light of that, it makes a lot of sense to use this form factor, especially if it is the only server in the closet.
@@_TbT_ uh huh. I used to set up tower servers all the time when building networks for small businesses, but that was a decade ago, and almost all of these businesses would be better served by cloud infrastructure today (or colocation). I can see, however, where this would be useful. Specifically for design firms of all types, and any firm that needs high bandwidth access to GPUs (e.g. architects). They may have just a telecom rack, but need a high speed storage and rendering solution, and this form factor makes sense.
@@edwardallenthree This server in particular is NOT at all useful for those clients, as it is loud as hell and with the fans mounted at the PCIe outlets, you cannot even connect monitors to this thing. This is a Machine Learning number cruncher. As such it however should be put in a server room, because it is loud and hot as hell. This could maybe be for very SOHOs, who maybe have an own room, but no server rack. Imho, this form factor makes little sense, because people will think they can put it somewhere in the office, while in reality this thing is way too loud for that.
@@_TbT_ Could this pedestal form factor be needed by people who are required to have the server in a secured area? Secured as in security clearance required for the project?
Heh, modular PSU cables, a vertical GPU/PCIe mount, and rubber grommets for vibration/noise dampening. Tyan really taking inspiration from the consumer PC case space...what's next? Tempered glass side panels? j/k
I think the fact that you can bridge ALL FOUR of the GPU's together is a HUGE PLUS! I wasn't even aware of the bridging capability of those cards and now that I am it makes me wonder about the advantages of bridging all 4 together as one versus bridging 2 and 2
Modular cables for PSUs was one of the best things they've come up with imho. Cable management is a bi*ch enough as it is. There's nothing worse than having to deal with a ton of cables you're not even using. Seasonic was the 1st company I knew to have done it going back to 2007.
After your fiber series, have you thought of doing anything for power? Differences in PDU, UPS, monitored/unmonitored, vertical mount, horizontal mount. There’s a lot of introductory content there.
We very much may do that. We did an Eaton Li-Ion UPS the other day on the main site (no video) www.servethehome.com/eaton-5p-1u-lithium-ion-rack-battery-unit-review-5p1500r-l/
@@ServeTheHomeVideo I did read that, and wondered if highlighting the weight, compared to SLA types would be interesting. Also, does Li-ion make for a more power dense UPS?
It looks like you can put 2 triple slot GPUs in slots 1 and 4 and have a one slot gap between them. which is nice if you are saving money and using rtx 3090s. I wonder how airflow would be for those cause it’s designed to blow through them while rtx cards try to suck air in and blow over the card. I feel like it would be fine.
"...what looks like basically an 8 bay 2.5" drive system..." Isn't that a dual 5.25" bay? For, for example, full sized optical drives? Wow, making me feel old for being 26 and still using one in my daily driver desktop :P (Which actually got in the way with watercooling it with the config I want, because I guess so few people who run high end systems still use optical drives? ':D)
@@ServeTheHomeVideo Oh, wow, I guess I couldn't see that from the camera, and since I haven't seen it before I just assumed. Thanks for the response to correct me on it, and I'm sorry it took me so long to see it. I love your videos, and I'm eager to see that networking project for the new office as that progresses :)
Hi I am in the process of setting up a similar tyan s8030 system. It is taking forever to post into ami. Is it possible to bypass the bmc with the jumpers to skip all the checks in the beginning it seems to loop multiple times until if gets past sometimes.
@@ServeTheHomeVideo Bummer. Hahaha....the next time you get the keys to the Supermicro demo room, maybe you can ask them to bring out one of their pedestal servers for review. I would LOVE to know how quiet their 'Q' versions of their pedestal servers are and compare that against their non-'Q' variant of the same.
that big space above the 2.5" bays looks like the PERFECT spot for a screen to show your stats at a glance... man I would LOVE to have this think in my home lol ...... you think Tyan would be nice enough to make a donation?? :)
i love how its designed for gpus but the 16x slots are jammed together in the case of the top three, and the bottom one would probs only fit a single slot card, so with six slots total really only three maybe four can be used, based on dual slot gpus
ryzen epyc isn't a thing... nor is a 256 thread single chip Epyc.... the highest thread Epyc chip has 64 cores and 128 threads. anything higher requires a dual socket/chip motherboard. the NEXT Gen Epyc chip is RUMORED to have UP TO 128 core (256 thread) on a single chip, but that has NOT been CONFRMED yet....
I need this thing just for the amount of 3.5" drives you can put in it... I'm currently using a 500GB 980 PRO Gen4 nvme for my boot drive, a 1TB WD Gen3 nvme for games and apps, and 3 different brands of 3TB 7200rpm 3.5" rust rotators for storage of movies, game iso's, tv shows, music, etc (nothing critical) that were only $30 on amazon/newegg but I have SQUEEZED them into what little space was left in my case - and I can't fit anything else... I was PLANNING of just splurging on a huge 10+ TB drive to end this madness of so many drives but there is nowhere to put in my case lol, so I need a better case... idk why I'm tell you all this lol, I guess I just wanted to get it off my chest lol :)
why would you mark it as sponsored if you have to send it back? it would only be 'sponsored' if you KEPT THE PRODUCT... if there is ZERO COMPENSATION (i.e. no money and no server) then it is NOT SPONSORED.... idk if you make more $ off of sponsored videos on YT (I would think if anything they would give you LESS) then by all means, but it seems like a waste of breath to me :)
Because exclusive access / free rental is a perk, and there is a potential for conflict of interest "if I review it poorly, I stop getting free hands on time with insanely expensive hardware" One of the most important resources any reviewer has is their audience's trust. It's just worth it to make disclosures proactively, even if they're not strictly necessary.
I tried googling the model number, accidentally ended up summoning Cthulhu
Cthulhu IT support - What can I help you with?
Instructions unclear : great ancients are now invading this reality and will be annihilated in the next 24 hours.
Sorry ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ha!
[nanowar of steel - Call of cthulhu]
Noone says model codes with confidence like you ;)
🤣🤣👍
The chasis just reminded me of early 2000s Dell PowerEdge Full tower case
I can't wait until you stumble on a server named "Barbara." Or "Strawberry 2".
"Hey guys, THIS is Patrick from STH and this is the Bee ay ar bee AY AR a server from supermicro "
I'll be frank, I would never use such a tower workstation in my work environment unless they are giving free earplugs to prevent ear loss. This workstation will be LOUD as a took off airplane. Prefer liquid cooled tower workstation solutions for a healthier work environment. You should add a B-roll to show how loud is the tower while under load for possible users. Not many are aware of this situation and regrets buying such a system after they hear how loud they work. Mentioning its loudness mostly doesn't resolve unless they hear it ( know it by experience ).
This system makes sense if it can be converted to be a rack mounted system by adding rack rails on the bottom and top of the case and put it in a server room if user wants to get rid of the noise.
The PSU inside the workstation is Consumer product from FSP. Its model is 2000 Watt "CANON PRO". It has 80 PLUS 230V EU GOLD Certificate ( Doesn't have an efficiency certificate for 100-115 V usage. ) There is also a "CANON" model which doesn't have any 80 PLUS certificate, so be careful if you want to buy it for a DYI workstation.
It can be converted to a 4u rack. The supermicro equivalent actually comes in a sq (super quiet) variant, less than 27Db
Thumbs up for *liquid cooled workstations* 💦 🖥 👍
To get all the functionality of this tower would require a five u case. In light of that, it makes a lot of sense to use this form factor, especially if it is the only server in the closet.
This is not meant for the rack, but for standalone. SM has 4,5 HE rack servers for 10 GPUs.
@@_TbT_ uh huh. I used to set up tower servers all the time when building networks for small businesses, but that was a decade ago, and almost all of these businesses would be better served by cloud infrastructure today (or colocation). I can see, however, where this would be useful. Specifically for design firms of all types, and any firm that needs high bandwidth access to GPUs (e.g. architects). They may have just a telecom rack, but need a high speed storage and rendering solution, and this form factor makes sense.
@@edwardallenthree This server in particular is NOT at all useful for those clients, as it is loud as hell and with the fans mounted at the PCIe outlets, you cannot even connect monitors to this thing. This is a Machine Learning number cruncher. As such it however should be put in a server room, because it is loud and hot as hell. This could maybe be for very SOHOs, who maybe have an own room, but no server rack.
Imho, this form factor makes little sense, because people will think they can put it somewhere in the office, while in reality this thing is way too loud for that.
@@_TbT_ Could this pedestal form factor be needed by people who are required to have the server in a secured area? Secured as in security clearance required for the project?
@@dougm275 Every server room should also be a secured area.
Nice a retractable coffee tray, interesting server.
Thats not coffee tray thats a general purpose drawer rack
Can you review a hardware load balancer pls. Thanks.
Interesting idea. Let me see what we can do. November is very full right now.
That’s a beautiful machine! Wish I could afford to own one just to “have it”!
Heh, modular PSU cables, a vertical GPU/PCIe mount, and rubber grommets for vibration/noise dampening. Tyan really taking inspiration from the consumer PC case space...what's next? Tempered glass side panels? j/k
The X550 is neat since it can do 1/2.5/5/10G, which might be better in a mixed use or often changing environment.
I think the fact that you can bridge ALL FOUR of the GPU's together is a HUGE PLUS! I wasn't even aware of the bridging capability of those cards and now that I am it makes me wonder about the advantages of bridging all 4 together as one versus bridging 2 and 2
Modular cables for PSUs was one of the best things they've come up with imho. Cable management is a bi*ch enough as it is. There's nothing worse than having to deal with a ton of cables you're not even using. Seasonic was the 1st company I knew to have done it going back to 2007.
After your fiber series, have you thought of doing anything for power? Differences in PDU, UPS, monitored/unmonitored, vertical mount, horizontal mount. There’s a lot of introductory content there.
We very much may do that. We did an Eaton Li-Ion UPS the other day on the main site (no video) www.servethehome.com/eaton-5p-1u-lithium-ion-rack-battery-unit-review-5p1500r-l/
@@ServeTheHomeVideo I did read that, and wondered if highlighting the weight, compared to SLA types would be interesting. Also, does Li-ion make for a more power dense UPS?
It looks like you can put 2 triple slot GPUs in slots 1 and 4 and have a one slot gap between them. which is nice if you are saving money and using rtx 3090s. I wonder how airflow would be for those cause it’s designed to blow through them while rtx cards try to suck air in and blow over the card. I feel like it would be fine.
"...what looks like basically an 8 bay 2.5" drive system..." Isn't that a dual 5.25" bay? For, for example, full sized optical drives? Wow, making me feel old for being 26 and still using one in my daily driver desktop :P (Which actually got in the way with watercooling it with the config I want, because I guess so few people who run high end systems still use optical drives? ':D)
That is what I thought at first. The space has grooves for 2.5" drive trays and mounting points for a backplane.
@@ServeTheHomeVideo Oh, wow, I guess I couldn't see that from the camera, and since I haven't seen it before I just assumed. Thanks for the response to correct me on it, and I'm sorry it took me so long to see it.
I love your videos, and I'm eager to see that networking project for the new office as that progresses :)
thank you for the video 🙏🏻
Can’t find any pricing online :(
Hi I am in the process of setting up a similar tyan s8030 system. It is taking forever to post into ami. Is it possible to bypass the bmc with the jumpers to skip all the checks in the beginning it seems to loop multiple times until if gets past sometimes.
Is the backplane a managed backplane (fail/locate LEDs and such)? Or is it a dumb backplane with only presence/activity?
I want that chassis, but there are no resellers in my country, and hardly any in Europe ... plenty of distributors though.
I'd go for the supermicro equivalent
How does this compare to the Supermicro AMD EPYC pedestal server?
We have not done a recent SM EPYC pedestal server :-(
@@ServeTheHomeVideo
Bummer.
Hahaha....the next time you get the keys to the Supermicro demo room, maybe you can ask them to bring out one of their pedestal servers for review.
I would LOVE to know how quiet their 'Q' versions of their pedestal servers are and compare that against their non-'Q' variant of the same.
that big space above the 2.5" bays looks like the PERFECT spot for a screen to show your stats at a glance... man I would LOVE to have this think in my home lol ...... you think Tyan would be nice enough to make a donation?? :)
Or an 8 slot 2.5" disk rack
Sounds like a system that shouldve been a TR Pro based unit
Is that an In-Winn OEM chassis?
i love how its designed for gpus but the 16x slots are jammed together in the case of the top three, and the bottom one would probs only fit a single slot card, so with six slots total really only three maybe four can be used, based on dual slot gpus
Yeah. That's also 90% of the boards out there today. Most are not user friendly.
is a 128 core 256 thread RYZEN EPYC powered monster of a computer.
"Ryzen Epyc" doesn't exist. EPYC is not under the Ryzen lineup at all
ryzen epyc isn't a thing... nor is a 256 thread single chip Epyc.... the highest thread Epyc chip has 64 cores and 128 threads. anything higher requires a dual socket/chip motherboard. the NEXT Gen Epyc chip is RUMORED to have UP TO 128 core (256 thread) on a single chip, but that has NOT been CONFRMED yet....
No RGB lights ???
The three Aputure p300c's lighting the background are plenty of RGB!
@@ServeTheHomeVideo I was sarcastic. :)
I enjoy your work.
I need this thing just for the amount of 3.5" drives you can put in it... I'm currently using a 500GB 980 PRO Gen4 nvme for my boot drive, a 1TB WD Gen3 nvme for games and apps, and 3 different brands of 3TB 7200rpm 3.5" rust rotators for storage of movies, game iso's, tv shows, music, etc (nothing critical) that were only $30 on amazon/newegg but I have SQUEEZED them into what little space was left in my case - and I can't fit anything else...
I was PLANNING of just splurging on a huge 10+ TB drive to end this madness of so many drives but there is nowhere to put in my case lol, so I need a better case...
idk why I'm tell you all this lol, I guess I just wanted to get it off my chest lol :)
you mark TOO MANY THINGS as "sponsored"
this is cut-and-dry not sponsored content
why would you mark it as sponsored if you have to send it back? it would only be 'sponsored' if you KEPT THE PRODUCT... if there is ZERO COMPENSATION (i.e. no money and no server) then it is NOT SPONSORED....
idk if you make more $ off of sponsored videos on YT (I would think if anything they would give you LESS) then by all means, but it seems like a waste of breath to me :)
Because exclusive access / free rental is a perk, and there is a potential for conflict of interest "if I review it poorly, I stop getting free hands on time with insanely expensive hardware"
One of the most important resources any reviewer has is their audience's trust. It's just worth it to make disclosures proactively, even if they're not strictly necessary.
"you can keep it" doesn't even necessarily make it "sponsored."