Could you add a frame with capped queen cells into the nuke instead of a mated queen? Would the new queens just emerge go on a mating flight and start laying in the nuke?
I used this method. On the advice of a colleague, after releasing the queen, I returned to the hive in 7 days and checked if there were any new queen cells. And in some hives I found a queen cell. After removing them I had no more problems. A colleague said that the bees are trying to save their genetic line and that is why they created new queen cells from the eggs of the new queen.
if you left the nuc bees to hatch one of the queens with out placing the new caged queen in, would/could they of swarmed with the virgin queen or would they stay in the nuc and kill the other queen cells and build the hive
@@BlackMountainHoney I’ve got some mated queens ordered, but delays due to poor weather and BREXIT means they are already two weeks late. My plan was to get the queens, take them to the desired apiary, make up some nucs with capped / emerging brood and stores, and to position the nucs in the same apiary. At this point I’d finish inspecting the rest of the hives in the apiary and have my lunch. This is to allow the older, flying bees to return to their original hive and thus then leave my nucs with just nurse bees. I was then going to pop the tab off the queen cage and position it in the nuc between the frames of brood. What I’m taking from your video is that the bees may still produce emergency queen cells and reject / ball the queen I’ve just paid £40 for !!! Guess I probably owe you a pint 🍺
@@bengibbon9229 I've done that loads of times. They pretty much always ball her if you do it like that. Just add in the stages and you will get good acceptance. There is no rush as the colony will expand with emerging brooc
@@BlackMountainHoney ok, I’ll definitely follow your process for introducing my mated queens once / if they ever arrive. Thanks again for making / sharing the video. What’s your recommendation for virgins? I’ve some coming from Portugal 🇵🇹 I’ve set aside my BS Honey poly nucs for the job as the divider turns them into 3 frame semi detached mating nucs.
Great information..i like to see different beekeeping methods especially across the pond the home of beekeeping.... now im going and enjoy some of my orange blossom honey...
Thank you Lawrence - another excellent video and with this step by step guide it has given me confidence to have a go at creating NUCS this spring/summer. Best wishes for a successful and productive year !
I got a very very weak colony , only a hand full of bees and the queen so thinking giving the nuc some brood frames and shake of bees , cage the queen and do as you did in this video . Hope she takes off laying eggs if she gets accepted . Very good video , thanks for some tips . 👍
Uncanny timing on this one, I have some Buckfast Queens arriving tomorrow from BS Honey Bees and planning to make up several 2 frame nucs with their poly nuc.
We try our best not to clip them where we don't need to as just another thing to do. But you can clip as soon as they are accepted. Easier finding them now than in a full brood box.
Hi lawrence, looking to start an apiary of 10 or 15 next spring. What's the most economical/ efficient way of doing it. Have one hive at the moment but have secured some land for the apiary.
Build your colony up on double then treble brood. Once you reach treble brood. Work out how many two frame splits you can make (of brood). Split them into nucs and add mated queens. Then dont stop feeding until Sept/Oct. Little and often and pollen sub if they need it
Thanks for the video Lawrence! In this case you don't let the flying bees to go back to their hive? What's the difference when you did it the other way?
@@BlackMountainHoney I was going to comment re the flyers. Not everyone has a second location to take the nuc to and whilst you will lose the flyers the nurse bees will of course remain as they have never left any hive. But as you say that loses a number of bees and slows the build up. I just put a few more bees that I think I need to try and balance out the loses.
@@martynhordern7351 @Black Mountain Honey Perhaps at this time of year when build up is rapid it's not too much of a problem letting the flying bees return to their original hive? More of a problem as the year goes on? I'd welcome your thoughts. I guess anything slowing it down is a pain, but if you're operating from a single apiary you don't have much choice. Need to expand this year so that I can fill a second apiary next :)
Great info thanks very helpfull
Lawrence i love this format of videos. It is awesome to learn and see. Thank you. From Portugal
Great vid as always
Thanks
Could you add a frame with capped queen cells into the nuke instead of a mated queen? Would the new queens just emerge go on a mating flight and start laying in the nuke?
Yes you can do that if you wish. Always run the risk of the queen not mating but its a valid method
Very useful video! Thanks for that 👍👍
I used this method. On the advice of a colleague, after releasing the queen, I returned to the hive in 7 days and checked if there were any new queen cells. And in some hives I found a queen cell. After removing them I had no more problems. A colleague said that the bees are trying to save their genetic line and that is why they created new queen cells from the eggs of the new queen.
Great demonstration on queen introduction thanks
Thanks Steve :D
if you left the nuc bees to hatch one of the queens with out placing the new caged queen in, would/could they of swarmed with the virgin queen or would they stay in the nuc and kill the other queen cells and build the hive
Great practical instructional demonstration
Need more like this step by step
Once again raised the bar
Thanks
Brilliant video, thanks for sharing 👍👍👍
Cheers Ben
@@BlackMountainHoney I’ve got some mated queens ordered, but delays due to poor weather and BREXIT means they are already two weeks late. My plan was to get the queens, take them to the desired apiary, make up some nucs with capped / emerging brood and stores, and to position the nucs in the same apiary. At this point I’d finish inspecting the rest of the hives in the apiary and have my lunch. This is to allow the older, flying bees to return to their original hive and thus then leave my nucs with just nurse bees. I was then going to pop the tab off the queen cage and position it in the nuc between the frames of brood. What I’m taking from your video is that the bees may still produce emergency queen cells and reject / ball the queen I’ve just paid £40 for !!! Guess I probably owe you a pint 🍺
@@bengibbon9229 I've done that loads of times. They pretty much always ball her if you do it like that. Just add in the stages and you will get good acceptance. There is no rush as the colony will expand with emerging brooc
@@BlackMountainHoney ok, I’ll definitely follow your process for introducing my mated queens once / if they ever arrive. Thanks again for making / sharing the video.
What’s your recommendation for virgins? I’ve some coming from Portugal 🇵🇹 I’ve set aside my BS Honey poly nucs for the job as the divider turns them into 3 frame semi detached mating nucs.
@@bengibbon9229 I don't ever introduce virgins as the cost difference is so negligible. I just always go for the mated ones
Great information..i like to see different beekeeping methods especially across the pond the home of beekeeping.... now im going and enjoy some of my orange blossom honey...
MMMMM. Now that sounds tasty!
Thank you Lawrence - another excellent video and with this step by step guide it has given me confidence to have a go at creating NUCS this spring/summer. Best wishes for a successful and productive year !
I got a very very weak colony , only a hand full of bees and the queen so thinking giving the nuc some brood frames and shake of bees , cage the queen and do as you did in this video . Hope she takes off laying eggs if she gets accepted . Very good video , thanks for some tips . 👍
I've just finished a new video doing exactly that. Be out in a few weeks
@@BlackMountainHoney ...awesome thank you , I’ll be keeping an eye out for that , fantastic . 👍
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Very informative video Lawrence many thanks 😊
Thanks Angela 😊
Great video Lawrence very useful info.
Thanks Mark
Uncanny timing on this one, I have some Buckfast Queens arriving tomorrow from BS Honey Bees and planning to make up several 2 frame nucs with their poly nuc.
Great stuff. Good luck on the splits
That was really helpful, thanks so much. Will you clip the wings on the queen or leave this until they are in a brood box. Best wishes
We try our best not to clip them where we don't need to as just another thing to do. But you can clip as soon as they are accepted. Easier finding them now than in a full brood box.
Hi lawrence, looking to start an apiary of 10 or 15 next spring. What's the most economical/ efficient way of doing it. Have one hive at the moment but have secured some land for the apiary.
Build your colony up on double then treble brood. Once you reach treble brood. Work out how many two frame splits you can make (of brood). Split them into nucs and add mated queens. Then dont stop feeding until Sept/Oct. Little and often and pollen sub if they need it
@@BlackMountainHoney I'm on 12x14 would you add 2 national brood box or 14x12 brood
Hi great video, you mentioned about feeding little and often. At what stage would you start feeding? After the queen is free of the cage or before?
You can feed straight away
Thanks for the video Lawrence! In this case you don't let the flying bees to go back to their hive? What's the difference when you did it the other way?
I prefer to not let the flyers go back and move them all to the new apiary. If you let the flyers go back it just takes longer to build the nuc up
@@BlackMountainHoney I was going to comment re the flyers. Not everyone has a second location to take the nuc to and whilst you will lose the flyers the nurse bees will of course remain as they have never left any hive. But as you say that loses a number of bees and slows the build up. I just put a few more bees that I think I need to try and balance out the loses.
@@martynhordern7351 @Black Mountain Honey Perhaps at this time of year when build up is rapid it's not too much of a problem letting the flying bees return to their original hive? More of a problem as the year goes on? I'd welcome your thoughts. I guess anything slowing it down is a pain, but if you're operating from a single apiary you don't have much choice. Need to expand this year so that I can fill a second apiary next :)
Very useful info as always. Thanks Laurence.
My pleasure!