One thing that you didn't mention about the Zuni bowl is the reason Zuni bowls are lined with rocks. Morning dew collects and slides to the base of rocks, and you would not believe how much water morning dew adds. Rocks in the desert collect dew and support a diversity of plants, insects, and animals. Zuni bowls also add water for wildlife of all kinds
I did mention about why the rocks are there, but not the extra benefit that you just listed😅 we do get a lot of dew in the morning, so that is a plus for watering and supporting the ecosystem around the bowl!✌🏾
@@GrowTreeOrganics yep & even in the high desert we can get fog for a good part of the day. That’s going to 🐝 a minimal aspect of collecting water on the surface..it’s going to 🐝 a thing to see how many ways Venus will make water abundant on the land she borders. I can’t spoil what it will 🐝 because adaptation will = testing and failures as well as success!! You’ve inspired me..hopefully those that follow the RV RUclips channel will also 🐝 inspired.
@@Inspiringsuccess2 I actually had read, that up to 10% of the water that hydrates the soil is the Dew that comes off the plants, so it is actually a crucial aspect to harvest and soak that water as effectively as possibly. ✌🏾
Thank you for the video. In the UK we harvest rain water in a similar device called “pot holes”. The local councils assist by allowing them to be as deep as possible and will rarely take action to fill them in.
😂 Think that's called the right idea implemented in the wrong way! For some reason that seems to be the trend, especially in politics! Thanks for that sarcasm!✌🏾
🤣🤣🤣🤣🇬🇧 the fact that the illegal immigrant housing bill is almost as much as the spending for the nations road network is frightening imagine if we ever got the full number drs, clothing etc. truly unbelievable.
I live in the sahara desert and my place gets 75mm of rain per year on average, we recently got 40mm of rain in just 2-3days according to math, if a tree needs 25mm of rain per week during summer, then creating a catchement area of 3m diameter or 9-10feets will be enuh to get enough rain water for the tree to suvive if it have long enough roots.
Oh wow! Pretty good rain you got over there then! I think it also depends what trees you would be growing, but that's probably a good estimate to make sure you'll capture enough! Thanks for sharing that!✌🏾
I think USA has opportunity. Many arid landscapes near residential areas particularly low income areas Potential for collecting waste and using in nearby arid land. Simple version is dig a trailer sized hole full with a trailer of waste and cover and forget for two years . Thinking that cheaper than utility waste disposal. Potential for collecting grey water and using for irrigation.
My Dad was a heavy equipment operator for the BLM. I used to work with him in the summer and we always referred to rolling dips as Water Bars. They are a wonderful tool to maintain roads in a cost effective manner
That's awesome! I've heard the water bar term a few times now, I'll have to look into that! But definitely a handy tool in the permaculture belt. Thanks✌🏾
@@joniboulware1436 it is disruptive right now, so you're not wrong, but we're also applying techniques that will restore everything and at a quicker pace. It's not like we'll be driving around everywhere forever like a highway. Nature is quite resilient, so she'll heal quickly. Good thing we're not using chemicals, or mining the land! ✌🏾
@@joniboulware1436 I would think the Monsoon rains would be quite disruptive as well, essentially flushing away lots of loose topsoil and eroding the landscape away.
Let’s play a drinking game. Drink every time he says Zuni bowls. 🥴🤮😂 Honestly though, this is the dream. Regenerative homesteading like the beavers. I can’t wait to see the results in a decade.
😅😂 so between me saying "you know" and Zuni Bowl, I'd say we've got a pretty good couple drinking games! Appreciate that! But indeed taking example from beavers and all of nature! I have confidence that we'll see pretty big results in the next couple years! We're pulling out all the tricks and tools for this project!✌🏾
@@GrowTreeOrganics I was also thinking why not plant a maple tree by those bowls. For 1 leaves to create leaf mulch to provide cover for the ground to hold in moisture. The maples can give a cash crop of syrup and sugar plus help collect the A.M. dew to further the moisture collection. The dew collected drops feeds the ground and trees. Not only that the trees have roots to go to the water table to bring water back up.
@@phillipErskine-jk1jt yea we definitely have those ideas in the works. We gotta finish the Gabion Wall-apini so that we can start the maple tree seeds, and all the other trees, shrubs, bushes and plants!😅✌🏾
In thai we dig ground deep at least 10 feets hole wide 4,5 feet put plastic with lid tigh or botton glass fill mix with wood tras to ful hole and made canal through the hole and can correct the water to the ground keeping area moisture,one thing canal don't straight line make it zigzag (TO SLOW WATER FLOW FAST) follow beside the trees and if you hire well diger machine it very good i dont know how much per 1 hole buy basket plastic carring put in holeand useplastic liner do lik plastic bag protect dert or any life fail down .
When the structure is filled with sediment, do not remove the good soil. Grow your crops in the sedimented area. Soil and water are together, at a usable depth, as a fertility trap. Perfect desert farming system!
One of the Atlantic volcano islands has been growing vines in similar structures. Do you drill infiltration holes a the bottom or in the sides of your Zuni hole? Do you use different rocks for different purposes? Say lava or carbonate rock for mineral fertilization or just sandstone as building material?
@@MiaHerssens we don't drill holes and we pretty much lay the rock that was in the area. We could get technical about it being specific about rock and other aspects. Sediment will collect in the basin, which will be full of nutrients, organic material, and so on. We have plenty of nutrients, so cultivating more biology and diversity will create the nutrient breakdown. As Elaine Ingham says, "as long as we have sand, silt, clay, rocks and pepples, we have plenty of nutrients that can become available if we get the diversity of microorganisms that can break all that down" We're just about keeping it simple, we have a lot more earthworks to create and with rainwater harvesting with earthworks the first rule is to plant the water first. We'll be able to modify and adjust things as necessary over time.✌🏾
Great visualization practice. I'm reminded of famous water harvester Brad Lancaster who cut curbs for recharging groundwater in Tucson and elsewhere. He called his visualizing & work "pre-legal". It's amazing what can happen over 30 years. Thx!☆ 🌲😎🌲
So if I am understanding this all correctly zuni bowls just slow and soak water into the ground. As the rolling dips are almost like french drains made out of full rock/gravel
Not only do the bowls slow and soak, they capture fertile soil/ sediment, otherwise if they're not maintained they become fertile areas of noticeably more growth. The rolling dips are different in that no piping, and besides the gravel, way less work compared to a French drain. Nothing to get clogged, but everyone has their own goals and priorities. These are just the earthworks we're choosing based on our climate, area, etc. We also have all the material on the land to utilize for most of the rock projects. Thanks for the question!✌🏾
I've definitely looked into Viktor Schauberger, he was way ahead of his time! I've read his books on water and energy. Also watched many videos on examples of his work. I've gotten a lot of inspiration from his work! Thank you✌🏾
im actually going to be buying acres in Apache County AZ within the year, and will be using permaculture techniques, i like these Zuni bowls your making, finding some heavy clay soils and lining the bowl before laying down rock, will slow water flow into surrounding are, if you have any pinyon pines around the area, some zuni bowls around those trees will give them a big boost in growing
@@Metanaut1 we actually have been doing that! We have a whole lot of adolescent pinion trees, so our goals will be to help promote those and create more diversity. ✌🏾
I'd agree! Sometimes I just choose not to use the wheelbarrow!😅 we have one though, you can check out my other videos on all the tools and machinery we're using! Appreciate that comment though, #2 is definitely required!✌🏾
We have two 😅 but with the ground being so sandy and rocky in places, they are not always the best/easiest option. And of course a puff puff after some good work.
Yea I forgot to mention in the video that I do spread a mix of cover crops into the bowls. Clover, buckwheat, radishes, wrye grass, hairy vetch.. appreciate the question!✌🏾
Oh you said a magic word to me, check dams. I know of zuni bows as an erosion prevention technique, From Bill Zeedyk. he also suggested 1 rock dams to disrupt sheet flow. Which seems to be fairly important in your context. So are there gullies and washes in your context that you need to control erosion for?
Yes, we have 2 major washes that cross through the property, but even just the Monsoon rains, calls for erosion control in more than just the washes! Glad I could key in on the magic words. ✌🏾
What if you choose what grows in the holes like putting good competetive feed grasses say dotting the land scape like a golf ball what would happen to the wild life numbers in the area. Just thinking out loud.
Your out loud thoughts are valid! We all can choose what and if we plant in the bowls! Depends on our goals and values, but we'll definitely be attracting more wildlife!✌🏾
I do notice deep pits help drain water faster. The hydrostatic pressure seems to force the water into the ground. Rather than soaking into the ground it. A pin hole shoots out like a waterjet cutter.
We live in a high water area and are using the same techniques for water mitigation. Removing an old culvert and replacing it with hardscaping and earthworks. Because there's so much water we're adding a seasonal pond at the lowest point. Something to consider at your place for monsoon season. You could even bury a cistern for the pond to overflow into for garden/greenhouse watering. I've seen many cisterns made with rocks and cement.
That's awesome. So many combinations of earthworks and techniques. We actually have a couple "basins" for storing the rainwater we capture. You can look at my previous and recent videos to see.✌🏾
It would still work with limestone. Are you meaning porous, as in absorbing all the water in the bowl, or porous as in will the rocks float away because they're lightweight? Water would still be absorbed into the ground either way, but rocks floating away may be a different scenario. ✌🏾
@@GrowTreeOrganics the rocks won't float they're not pumice😂 but Barbados is pretty much all coral limestone and it's so porous we've actually stone bowls for water filtration in the past. But I suppose as long as it all ends up in the ground it's done it's job. I just fear that because of the high porosity we'd only get any overflow when it floods anyway
@@zyaicob I see... the rocks more or less are for collecting sediment and preventing erosion inside the bowl. So as long as it's collecting water, like you said it's doing its job. ✌🏾
This is nothing new to us nor surprised it’s was our way of life from beginning to elders from our creator above this world and universe caretakers and NOT TAKERS OF I WANT…..no balance of spirit….as real native/indigenous tribes of the first people in this corporation aka country and yes we still exist lol full blood and generations and some are mixed with others tribes in full blood we speak it write it look it and live it…..who’s the savage the one lives in it(respect/honor)or the one destroys it…..as real native/indigenous tribes believe in balance and respect with honor with earth and living organism and animals of spirit then and now that our creator above this world and universe and you call God all that is and was scared ground and now it turned to dark/black energy and vibration and universe and spirit of the manifest destiny of royal elites lodges and settlers of children and women and men….rather you believe or arrogantly not of one’s dark energy and vibration and spirit…..remember the flesh lies and the spirit knows the truth…..the truth is stranger than fiction it’s obvious and just plain common sense and real true spirit with discernment….true spirit irritates their demons😉😉🤫
I have great respect for the natives of this land, from the elders to the descendents of today, the culture, way of life, and the land. There is a lot to be learned from the people's and the way of life. It is indeed nothing new what we're doing here, only a revitalizing of what was lost. Thank you for your words. Balance is needed to live in harmony with nature as well as respect.✌🏾
They'll greatly improve water being able to soak into the ground and keeping soil from running off as well. We get Monsoon rains, so lots of top soil is moved down the property. ✌🏾
We have gravel all over the property, we just rake it up! You can check out the other videos and see we're getting a lot of our materials from the land. ✌🏾
If you think about it, what you are doing is pitching human labour and ingenuity against the natural process of erosion and pediplanation. Nature will smooth out a slope so that the water runs right off. Nature, like humans, don't always work in their own best interest. But with your insight you are helping both nature and humans!
Another thing that I would like to ask, is that a lot of those rocks you are picking up look like pyroclastics, so are you in an area that has seen recent volcanic acitivity?
Right, nature's been repeating this pattern for many many millenia, but with slight differences. We are people existing here and now with nature, so I think it's simply natural we utilize what nature has and has set a examples for us to follow. ✌🏾
My hypothesis is either there was an ancient volcano here a time ago... I can't find anything for this area, mainly Flagstaff has the ancient volcanoes. Who knows? My second hypothesis is perhaps a sizeable chunk of a volcano landed in the area? My observations on satellite and such lean me more towards a very small ancient volcano that maybe gushed out at a point in time. Not an explosion, but more oozed out.?✌🏾
great info, moved to southern norway two years ago and ive never before experienced drought, the nearby creek stopped flowing for almost two weeks which is crazy to me. so this is much appreciated! do you have an idea how to dispose of gray-water in a similar way that could be effective in filtering dishsoap and stuff? i live about 200-250feet away from a creek/small river, on a bedrock hilltop that is about 20-25feet in hight spaced across the mentioned length.
Appreciate it! That is crazy how it seems like more places in the world are becoming drought stricken! To answer your question, you could do something similar for Grey water. We actually have plans on creating "wicking beds" for some of our garden beds and to handle our Grey water. The wicking beds are lined so water isn't infiltrating into the soil, I'll be doing videos on our wicking bed and such when we get to it, but you can also search on RUclips to get an idea as well. It makes watering plants a lot easier, especially during summer or through drought conditions!✌🏾
I recently watched a video that talked about a man in Texas who had transformed barren land by sowing native grasses, turning the whole area into a beautiful nature area. (I tired to find the video, but I don't remember the title well enough.) Watching you made me think that his method is infinitely easier and far less back breaking! I'm still fairly new to permaculture and earthworks, and this is the first time I've heard about Zuni bowls and rolling dips, so thank you for that information. I checked out your channel and subscribed so I can see more of what you've done and are doing with your current projects. Keep up the good work! (And consider allowing native grasses help you with your work!) Edit: I found the video I referred to. It's on the National Geographic channel and is called "50 Years Ago, This Was a Wasteland. He Changed Everything." Check it out.
Oh nice, I'll definitely look into that video! We are trying to promote all the native vegetation here and try to transplant anything we dig up from the earthworks. We've still got a lot to do, in a good way!😅 Thanks for joining the journey✌🏾
I thought this was going to be something to help teach people who are new to this. But I don’t feel like I belong here because there’s no explanation of what a Zuni bowl is and how it works. You were talking to us as if we all knew what this is and we don’t . Thank you for putting me onto it, but I’m gonna have to go look for another channel that will teach things from the ground up. Sincerely, Good luck with your more advanced people! 😊
Interesting you say that? I felt I did explain the concept of a Zuni Bowl, slowing, soaking, and capturing sediment. I also did explain that these can be placed anywhere and it depends what your goals are for your placement as well. But perhaps my explanation just didn't resonate with what you were hoping for or I explained it in a way you didn't quite understand. No worries though. There are other videos that may do a better job of explaining, but we will do more videos on these in the future because we're just getting started with the restoration project, so we've only done a few things so far. Thank you for your input. I'm constantly trying to improve my presentation and explanation skills. ✌🏾
@shannonjensen3855, I've been doing earthworks for permaculture for years, and I also had a hard time understanding the logic of this video, so you're not alone. I looked up Zuni bowls, and from what I can gather, you don't just place them "anywhere" (except if you're collecting dew, I guess), but they're part of a ditch/water directional system. They're usually placed right below gulley heads (where the ditch has a quick vertical drop) to counter erosion, which you get when water moves too quickly across the landscape. When he's talking about rolling dips, those are piped or gravel-filled ditches that cross roads at about 30%, with the road slanting down toward the dip to collect water runoff so it won't erode the road elsewhere. Placing a Zuni bowl downslope off the road allows the water to collect in the deep bowl, and then slowly run off the edge, one edge being a little bit lower, in the direction you want the water to go. So yes, there is a reason to place Zuni bowls as a part of a ditch system, using it to slow down water and catch sediment. From the video, it seems that you can just dig them at random, without water running into our out of them, and again, I suppose you can. But if you're trying to slow the water, catch the sediment, and keep roads and paths intact, I'd absolutely recommend having a clear plan of where to place them, and understanding why (which isn't so clear for me from this video). Still glad I saw it though, and got a name for this type of catchment system. So to the poster of the video, thanks for that!
@@GrowTreeOrganics that was really kind of you to take the time to reply! I have no doubt you are making a positive impact on everyone who comes to your channel! If you’re looking for suggestions… Perhaps if you were to start out asking a few questions at the beginning of your video to let people know what you’re going to talk about and then answer your own questions. It kind of works like a table of content in a book that lets people know what they’re going to get when they listen to you. For example: “ ‘What? IS Zuni bowl?’ you might ask.” “ what are the benefits you can get from a Zuni bowl that is different from other kinds of irrigation?” “ Would you like to see some before and after examples?” “ can you show me how to make my own Zuni bowls?” Again… Thank you for your contribution!
@@shannonjensen3855 no problem. Always happy to respond to everyone if I can! I can definitely improve on my video and talking. Thank you for the suggestion though, I'll try to incorporate questions in the intro and see how others respond as well! Thank you for replying back!✌🏾
Thanks so much for doing this video and explaining this for us. So much great information on natural things to do to help mitigate and manage water . Appreciate this so much
Are the rocks really that beneficial? I can imagine a lot of erosion gets collected in the pits, so without rocks it seems easier to empty the solids every x years with a crane/shovel
I mean none of this is written in stone! 😅 The rocks play a pretty important role in catching the sediment, but also preventing erosion. If you just dig a pit, it'll end up filling really quick with sediment and once it fills with water even, there will be erosion and the water will eventually just carve out the pit. The rocks also serve as mulch for anything trying to grow in the bowl. We're in Northern Arizona, so we get Monsoon rains and very hot summer temperatures. So it's also how we're adapting to our climate here and we have an abundance of rocks here! It's also up to anyone what they wanna do on their own property. Thanks for the question✌🏾
@@GrowTreeOrganics maybe making only a "top ring" of stone could lead to the best of the two! The edge is then protected, while sediment in the pits can be easily removed during yearly maintenance. Anyway: Good job you are doing!
@@michaelsorensen7567 these did get tried and they did work! That video, I was digging new bowls, but we have other bowls that we got to see in action last year. I just didn't get film of it.✌🏾
Dude, you need to let the grasses grow around your orchard so that you can have dry matter to burn to create charcoal and ash to break through the clay and add carbon to the soil.
We will be creating char and wood ash from all the dead trees and branches we have on the property. But we'll be promoting the diversity of vegetation here as we continue the Greening the Desert Project. Appreciate the suggestion!✌🏾
I would agree actually with what you're saying. It has been overused, but I think it depends on perspective. You could say it's not a game Changer for yourself, but other people might have a different view. ✌🏾
Let's see what we learned: - Shape doesn't matter, anything goes - Location doesn't matter, go with the landscape - Rocks. Why rocks? Why ask why? - No specific tools or methods, go hog wild Excuse me, gonna go put a pile of rocks in my neighbor's lawn. I'll let you know how it goes.
You're actually right! Everyone's property is different, everyone's goals are different, so doing it how I'm doing it might not fit what you want. I did explain what the rocks do. And tools are up to you what you wanna do. Thanks for choosing to watch the video, because everyone has a choice of what they want to watch!.... You know!😅 ✌🏾
you know, you know, don't you know, I apreciate the information you are conveying! I also realize you are not trained in public speaking! however your word whisker ( you know ) distracts from your message! I hope you will take this as constructive criticism, rather than seeing me as just a youtube troll!
Excellent idea for (I suppose) mainly desertic climate. The only conclusion I deduct from this is that stones get heated by the sun and heat the water, that probably itself probably will contain algae. Here in the Balkans area, the mountainous area parallel to the Adriatic sea, south west Bosnia and Herzegowina, it all contains rocks that people could put to use. Take a bird view on G. earth around Busko lake in that area. Though sparsely inhabitated, might really work for water harvesting.
You could use this in other places other than the Desert. It only takes adjusting to the area in question along with what ones goals are. If there is a lot of cost content then it will most likely hold the water more. Our soil has really good drainage with all our sand here so it works for us. What you're saying though, the water would probably evaporate more quickly with the stones heating up and then heating the water, but the water will penatrate slowly unless your soil is heavy clay and can hold water. I'll definitely check out that area your talking about on Google earth! Thanks✌🏾
I'm In Catalonia northern Spain. I saw a thing like that bowl on a hill near the ocean perfectly built, but it was the size of a room deep and wide.❤😂 The whole area is stone dry stone walls and 2000 year old terraces
🤔 i wonder if you line top of the zuni bowls with canvas if you can gather the sediment or at least most of it and it would make it easier to harvest and maintain the zuni bowl. It might even lessen breeding ground for mosquitos. Also if you want, you can make ceramics from sediment if you sieve the big particulates out.
That's another good idea there with the canvas! I'd be curious to know myself it made it easier with the sediment. We definitely will be trying our hands at making some pottery and such. ✌🏾
I'll actually do another video on these, as we're going to build more around the property, now I know a bit more for talking and what to talk about! Always trying to improve. Appreciate it!✌🏾
I had a thought about the vegetation that settle among the rocks. When we transplant /seed some of the more desired plants on our property in the zuni bowls, the new seeds would gather there and be spread by the rolling dip with the water.
Honestly whatever size stone you have or can find will work. Preferably softball size. We just have all different sizes on our property, so we're using what we have!✌🏾
@@GrowTreeOrganics possibly consider limiting your repetition. without explaining it, you just replaced the word for pit & bombarded us with the term. Listen back to how it manages to be simultaneously dumb and condescending. Neither suit your apparent good character. Nice work though.
@@triedzidono appreciate the well worded criticism! At least now you won't forget the terms I used!😅 I've definitely taken note and tried to make improvements on my other videos since. Thank you!✌🏾
If they're going to hold water, that could be the case, but that's why growing grasses or any vegetation in or around the bowls is of benefit to help attract the other insects that will balance out the system. ✌🏾
It definitely could be used at the end of a swale. You can put them in a variety of places. You would want to place them ideally where water is flowing towards otherwise you can create a Pathway that leads to the bowl. I'll explain more about the rolling dips when we do more of them! We'll be doing earthworks between working on the Gabion Wall-apini!✌🏾
No Way! you're doing a wallapini?!?!?!? That is awesome. Do you have a section diagram of the one you are designing with sun angles from your area?@@GrowTreeOrganics
I have plans and the design for the build. I observe the sun angle more so and made calculations and drew things out. We've been here a little over 6 months and I camped for a couple weeks on the property before the move, so I had a good idea of the different sun angles and such.✌🏾
That's awesome! Could you possibly share those observations, calculations, and drawings in a video? A Wall-apini Construction series would be a huge hit! And from what I have seen of your climate will help to regulate heat. What are your Winters like?@@GrowTreeOrganics
So if I did that, they would instantly become choked with weeds that would be very difficult to deal with. Do they get planted with anything they look in this video like pure infiltration tech? Basically they look like rock lined zais
I actually didn't mention that I throw a mix of cover crops into the bowls, to promote more growing. But being "choked" with weeds is only bad if you don't want to maintain them. Those weeds are are good biomass, organic material that will only help the fertility. That's the nice thing about all this, it's adapted to our specific needs, what we're willing to do and not do. Like I said in the video it's the concepts that are set, but the design and materials are interchangeable. Thanks for the question!✌🏾
Fair enough. Definitely a labor intensive manual process though. Given your climate you are right it is likely a huge advantage over the disadvantages. I would like to see more on them, I have a lot of desert climate folks in my audience. @@GrowTreeOrganics
It can be labor intensive, but that's also where we all can utilize our creativity to come up with solutions to these kinds of problems. We'll definitely be doing a lot more, along with a diversity of other earthworks for Capturing the water. We're only 6 months into this whole project, so definitely still plenty to create and build! ✌🏾
The reason for using a semi-circular bowl shape also has to do with the amount of bowl surface for a given amount of volume (or earth that needs moving to make the bowl.) Spheres minimize surface area for a given volume.
I'm sure there is some evaporation, but moisture will still penetrate our soil fairly quickly, because it's sandy. You can always mulch inside the bowl to help. Thanks for the question✌🏾
@@tsmspace exactly. There's a book called the New wild why invasive species will be nature's salvation. He talks about similar things and also just the misconception and labeling of "invasive"✌🏾
@@GrowTreeOrganics wow thanks for the tip . I've been going around wondering about if there's any such discussion. Here in Oahu there are some invasive species that fill the wetlands, but it's an amazing thought because they grow so fast, it's a record-breaking growth rate,, hmmm,, wouldn't that be like, a carbon sink??? Anyway I am going to check that out thanks!!
@@tsmspace no problem. I'm of the opinion that technically everything wasn't native at one point, but winds, nature, and human intervention brought species to areas and they adapted. ✌🏾
For us, we want that, because as I had said in the video, we'll be able to collect all that because it will be good nutrient filled sediment for adding to garden beds, swales, and creating soil with. But it could be a negative for some people because it requires maintenance. ✌🏾
@@rwg727 depends. If I want to harvest every last grain of sediment. But we leave whatever fills the cracks in with the stones. It'll either wash away next rain or when it fills up, otherwise creates moisture spongy spots for plants to grow. It will eventually turn into a terrace if left, but it'll still slow and penetrate water, the rocks will create aeration in the terrace promoting more growth. It's the beauty of permaculture and earthworks, we find what works best for what we want to accomplish and what's in our best interest for our areas and unique landscapes. ✌🏾
Whats the advantage of something like this over something like a mulch pit or a banana circle? Or is it just for properties which have more stones than mulch available? Is there a good way to combine both concepts? I like the idea of composting in the water collection pits to build soil as well
It depends on personal situations and preferences. I think the Zuni bowl could basically be turned into a mulch pit or a banana circle! We have so many rocks here and want to utilize our materials we have on the property, but the rocks will capture sediment and create a fertile area if left, otherwise sediment for other places like a banana circle. Lots of possibilities. ✌🏾
@@GrowTreeOrganics cool thanks so much! As somewhere that doesn't have that many surface rocks available, I think that I'll probably stick with mulch pits for the most part then.
@@Darkfyre755 definitely. The beauty of nature... there isn't one thing that does everything and many different design ideas, it all comes down to what works for ourselves, our own values and goals and what's available. ✌🏾
One thing that you didn't mention about the Zuni bowl is the reason Zuni bowls are lined with rocks. Morning dew collects and slides to the base of rocks, and you would not believe how much water morning dew adds. Rocks in the desert collect dew and support a diversity of plants, insects, and animals.
Zuni bowls also add water for wildlife of all kinds
I did mention about why the rocks are there, but not the extra benefit that you just listed😅 we do get a lot of dew in the morning, so that is a plus for watering and supporting the ecosystem around the bowl!✌🏾
@@GrowTreeOrganics yep & even in the high desert we can get fog for a good part of the day. That’s going to 🐝 a minimal aspect of collecting water on the surface..it’s going to 🐝 a thing to see how many ways Venus will make water abundant on the land she borders. I can’t spoil what it will 🐝 because adaptation will = testing and failures as well as success!!
You’ve inspired me..hopefully those that follow the RV RUclips channel will also 🐝 inspired.
We added large rocks collected from fields and place them next to plants, bushes or trees to collect dew underneath. Very effective!
@@Inspiringsuccess2 yep rocks help for sure.
@@Inspiringsuccess2 I actually had read, that up to 10% of the water that hydrates the soil is the Dew that comes off the plants, so it is actually a crucial aspect to harvest and soak that water as effectively as possibly. ✌🏾
It would be wise to plant a tree or a bush near the hole to prevent evaporation via shading the water
We definitely have that in the works! ✌🏾
Sediment control: Groundcovers
Definitely 👍🏾✌🏾
Thank you for the video. In the UK we harvest rain water in a similar device called “pot holes”. The local councils assist by allowing them to be as deep as possible and will rarely take action to fill them in.
😂 Think that's called the right idea implemented in the wrong way! For some reason that seems to be the trend, especially in politics! Thanks for that sarcasm!✌🏾
Oh, that's what that is. Thank you.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🇬🇧 the fact that the illegal immigrant housing bill is almost as much as the spending for the nations road network is frightening imagine if we ever got the full number drs, clothing etc. truly unbelievable.
Hold as much water as you can, as high as you can, as efficiently as you can sums up so many methods. Great to see another 👍
Very True! ✌🏾
I live in the sahara desert and my place gets 75mm of rain per year on average, we recently got 40mm of rain in just 2-3days
according to math, if a tree needs 25mm of rain per week during summer, then creating a catchement area of 3m diameter or 9-10feets will be enuh to get enough rain water for the tree to suvive if it have long enough roots.
Oh wow! Pretty good rain you got over there then! I think it also depends what trees you would be growing, but that's probably a good estimate to make sure you'll capture enough! Thanks for sharing that!✌🏾
anyone that wants to reclaim our deserts has my support! replenish ground water!
I think USA has opportunity.
Many arid landscapes near residential areas particularly low income areas
Potential for collecting waste and using in nearby arid land.
Simple version is dig a trailer sized hole full with a trailer of waste and cover and forget for two years . Thinking that cheaper than utility waste disposal.
Potential for collecting grey water and using for irrigation.
My Dad was a heavy equipment operator for the BLM. I used to work with him in the summer and we always referred to rolling dips as Water Bars. They are a wonderful tool to maintain roads in a cost effective manner
That's awesome! I've heard the water bar term a few times now, I'll have to look into that! But definitely a handy tool in the permaculture belt. Thanks✌🏾
Yep water bars here in the pacific northwest as well 👍🏻
All that digging and driving around on desert soils just destroys the soil structure.
@@joniboulware1436 it is disruptive right now, so you're not wrong, but we're also applying techniques that will restore everything and at a quicker pace. It's not like we'll be driving around everywhere forever like a highway. Nature is quite resilient, so she'll heal quickly. Good thing we're not using chemicals, or mining the land! ✌🏾
@@joniboulware1436 I would think the Monsoon rains would be quite disruptive as well, essentially flushing away lots of loose topsoil and eroding the landscape away.
French drain by any other name, good job
No doubt with a french drain and you can actually guide your runoff and reuse it. 💪
Let’s play a drinking game. Drink every time he says Zuni bowls. 🥴🤮😂 Honestly though, this is the dream. Regenerative homesteading like the beavers. I can’t wait to see the results in a decade.
😅😂 so between me saying "you know" and Zuni Bowl, I'd say we've got a pretty good couple drinking games!
Appreciate that! But indeed taking example from beavers and all of nature! I have confidence that we'll see pretty big results in the next couple years! We're pulling out all the tricks and tools for this project!✌🏾
@@GrowTreeOrganicswell some people don't know there is the Zuni tribe of Indigenous people either.
@@phillipErskine-jk1jt Exactly! I mentioned them in a previous video.
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@@GrowTreeOrganics I was also thinking why not plant a maple tree by those bowls. For 1 leaves to create leaf mulch to provide cover for the ground to hold in moisture. The maples can give a cash crop of syrup and sugar plus help collect the A.M. dew to further the moisture collection. The dew collected drops feeds the ground and trees. Not only that the trees have roots to go to the water table to bring water back up.
@@phillipErskine-jk1jt yea we definitely have those ideas in the works. We gotta finish the Gabion Wall-apini so that we can start the maple tree seeds, and all the other trees, shrubs, bushes and plants!😅✌🏾
In thai we dig ground deep at least 10 feets hole wide 4,5 feet put plastic with lid tigh or botton glass fill mix with wood tras to ful hole and made canal through the hole and can correct the water to the ground keeping area moisture,one thing canal don't straight line make it zigzag (TO SLOW WATER FLOW FAST) follow beside the trees and if you hire well diger machine it very good i dont know how much per 1 hole buy basket plastic carring put in holeand useplastic liner do lik plastic bag protect dert or any life fail down .
We will dig more holes like that very soon! Lots more earthworks to do, so we can capture lots more water! Thank you for the insight!✌🏾
When the structure is filled with sediment, do not remove the good soil. Grow your crops in the sedimented area. Soil and water are together, at a usable depth, as a fertility trap. Perfect desert farming system!
Definitely something that can be done! It may depend on people's goals and values. ✌🏾
One of the Atlantic volcano islands has been growing vines in similar structures.
Do you drill infiltration holes a the bottom or in the sides of your Zuni hole?
Do you use different rocks for different purposes? Say lava or carbonate rock for mineral fertilization or just sandstone as building material?
@@MiaHerssens we don't drill holes and we pretty much lay the rock that was in the area. We could get technical about it being specific about rock and other aspects. Sediment will collect in the basin, which will be full of nutrients, organic material, and so on. We have plenty of nutrients, so cultivating more biology and diversity will create the nutrient breakdown. As Elaine Ingham says, "as long as we have sand, silt, clay, rocks and pepples, we have plenty of nutrients that can become available if we get the diversity of microorganisms that can break all that down" We're just about keeping it simple, we have a lot more earthworks to create and with rainwater harvesting with earthworks the first rule is to plant the water first. We'll be able to modify and adjust things as necessary over time.✌🏾
Awesome! Thanks so much! This looks like my area, I'm in Apache county
You're welcome!✌🏾
I want to travel into the future 30 years from now to see the greening of the food forests ❤️🙏
We'll need a Beamship!😅✌🏾
But then you will be 30 years older. Why not start one now and see your own progress in 30 years?
@@ldygzlle1291 I would be more than a hundred years old…
Great visualization practice. I'm reminded of famous water harvester Brad Lancaster who cut curbs for recharging groundwater in Tucson and elsewhere. He called his visualizing & work "pre-legal". It's amazing what can happen over 30 years. Thx!☆ 🌲😎🌲
@@makeamericagreenagain8511 Brad Lancaster is definitely someone I've taken example from!✌🏾
So if I am understanding this all correctly zuni bowls just slow and soak water into the ground. As the rolling dips are almost like french drains made out of full rock/gravel
Not only do the bowls slow and soak, they capture fertile soil/ sediment, otherwise if they're not maintained they become fertile areas of noticeably more growth. The rolling dips are different in that no piping, and besides the gravel, way less work compared to a French drain. Nothing to get clogged, but everyone has their own goals and priorities. These are just the earthworks we're choosing based on our climate, area, etc. We also have all the material on the land to utilize for most of the rock projects. Thanks for the question!✌🏾
Could you plant fruiting trees/shrubs? Esp ones that can deal with poor conditions like a fig, but, they do need water obvs.
You definitely could! You could plant In and around the Zuni bowl! It will only help! Thanks for the question!✌🏾
I think you should look at Viktor Schauberger‘s work. He understood water like no one else.
Thank you for the literature recommendation I'm always looking for printed info on these types of videos
I've definitely looked into Viktor Schauberger, he was way ahead of his time! I've read his books on water and energy. Also watched many videos on examples of his work. I've gotten a lot of inspiration from his work! Thank you✌🏾
if you are going to do any type of permaculture, homesteading farming, you absolutely must read/study his works
im actually going to be buying acres in Apache County AZ within the year, and will be using permaculture techniques, i like these Zuni bowls your making, finding some heavy clay soils and lining the bowl before laying down rock, will slow water flow into surrounding are, if you have any pinyon pines around the area, some zuni bowls around those trees will give them a big boost in growing
@@Metanaut1 we actually have been doing that! We have a whole lot of adolescent pinion trees, so our goals will be to help promote those and create more diversity. ✌🏾
Nice work good luck
1- u need a wheel barrel
2- a very good joint afterwards
I'd agree! Sometimes I just choose not to use the wheelbarrow!😅 we have one though, you can check out my other videos on all the tools and machinery we're using! Appreciate that comment though, #2 is definitely required!✌🏾
We have two 😅 but with the ground being so sandy and rocky in places, they are not always the best/easiest option. And of course a puff puff after some good work.
Brilliance top Notch.
I love the simplicity of it all.We can do Something EVEN WITH OUR BARE HANDS.
I SALUTE YOU.
Thank you. Love to get my hands in the dirt when I can!😅✌🏾
Thanks, great job of explaining that so thoroughly. I have no questions as of now. ✌
Thank you! Hopefully I answered a few people's questions and then some!😅✌🏾
Would planting something like clover be helpful in your Zuni bowls for securing soil and water? Roots make good stabilizers
Yea I forgot to mention in the video that I do spread a mix of cover crops into the bowls. Clover, buckwheat, radishes, wrye grass, hairy vetch.. appreciate the question!✌🏾
I can’t wait to see all this on a rainy day.
Right there with ya!✌🏾
Childhood delights....
Just as I was beginning to feel that I knew everything...Very informative video!
Glad it could be helpful for you!✌🏾
Oh you said a magic word to me, check dams. I know of zuni bows as an erosion prevention technique, From Bill Zeedyk. he also suggested 1 rock dams to disrupt sheet flow. Which seems to be fairly important in your context. So are there gullies and washes in your context that you need to control erosion for?
Yes, we have 2 major washes that cross through the property, but even just the Monsoon rains, calls for erosion control in more than just the washes! Glad I could key in on the magic words. ✌🏾
What if you choose what grows in the holes like putting good competetive feed grasses say dotting the land scape like a golf ball what would happen to the wild life numbers in the area. Just thinking out loud.
Your out loud thoughts are valid! We all can choose what and if we plant in the bowls! Depends on our goals and values, but we'll definitely be attracting more wildlife!✌🏾
Drink every time he says Zoonnie bowl.
And a push-up for every "you know" 😅✌🏾
Warm rocks should attract more dew. They should also facilitate snow melt.
They definitely will!✌🏾
Amazing.
Greetings and good luck from a german biologist and gardener.
Subscribed and am excited to follow that interesting journey.
Guten Tag!😅 Thanks for joining the journey, We've still got so much more to come!✌🏾
I do notice deep pits help drain water faster. The hydrostatic pressure seems to force the water into the ground. Rather than soaking into the ground it. A pin hole shoots out like a waterjet cutter.
Id agree. Depends on people's goals and values, helps determine the shapes and techniques used. ✌🏾
We live in a high water area and are using the same techniques for water mitigation. Removing an old culvert and replacing it with hardscaping and earthworks. Because there's so much water we're adding a seasonal pond at the lowest point. Something to consider at your place for monsoon season. You could even bury a cistern for the pond to overflow into for garden/greenhouse watering. I've seen many cisterns made with rocks and cement.
That's awesome. So many combinations of earthworks and techniques. We actually have a couple "basins" for storing the rainwater we capture. You can look at my previous and recent videos to see.✌🏾
IT works in a Rock scape its too cool. Also it Works in Prescott valley area
WTF SNACKS save the Erf cuz
Multipurpose, we like things that are like that around here! But all these concepts can be utilized and adapted almost everywhere!✌🏾
The reddish dirt is so beautiful when you dig it.
I would totally agree! 😄✌🏾
How would this work in a place with basically all limestone? Would the rocks be too porous to work the same way?
It would still work with limestone. Are you meaning porous, as in absorbing all the water in the bowl, or porous as in will the rocks float away because they're lightweight?
Water would still be absorbed into the ground either way, but rocks floating away may be a different scenario. ✌🏾
@@GrowTreeOrganics the rocks won't float they're not pumice😂 but Barbados is pretty much all coral limestone and it's so porous we've actually stone bowls for water filtration in the past. But I suppose as long as it all ends up in the ground it's done it's job. I just fear that because of the high porosity we'd only get any overflow when it floods anyway
@@zyaicob I see... the rocks more or less are for collecting sediment and preventing erosion inside the bowl. So as long as it's collecting water, like you said it's doing its job. ✌🏾
You might want to look into "water bars" that's the name I learned for what you call "rolling dips"
I'll look into that! Thanks✌🏾
This is nothing new to us nor surprised it’s was our way of life from beginning to elders from our creator above this world and universe caretakers and NOT TAKERS OF I WANT…..no balance of spirit….as real native/indigenous tribes of the first people in this corporation aka country and yes we still exist lol full blood and generations and some are mixed with others tribes in full blood we speak it write it look it and live it…..who’s the savage the one lives in it(respect/honor)or the one destroys it…..as real native/indigenous tribes believe in balance and respect with honor with earth and living organism and animals of spirit then and now that our creator above this world and universe and you call God all that is and was scared ground and now it turned to dark/black energy and vibration and universe and spirit of the manifest destiny of royal elites lodges and settlers of children and women and men….rather you believe or arrogantly not of one’s dark energy and vibration and spirit…..remember the flesh lies and the spirit knows the truth…..the truth is stranger than fiction it’s obvious and just plain common sense and real true spirit with discernment….true spirit irritates their demons😉😉🤫
I have great respect for the natives of this land, from the elders to the descendents of today, the culture, way of life, and the land. There is a lot to be learned from the people's and the way of life. It is indeed nothing new what we're doing here, only a revitalizing of what was lost. Thank you for your words. Balance is needed to live in harmony with nature as well as respect.✌🏾
…aaa…what are you going on about?…you make it look like GTO is stealing something from “your culture”…think you need to get over yourself?😊
When you know, you know! (you know?)
Don't you know... Zuni Bowl, you know?!
The holes will add to your ground water
Problem with clay soils as you have rain water run off this will greatly help
They'll greatly improve water being able to soak into the ground and keeping soil from running off as well. We get Monsoon rains, so lots of top soil is moved down the property. ✌🏾
not sure if you actually buy your gravel, but if so you may want to invest in a rock crusher to make your own.
We have gravel all over the property, we just rake it up! You can check out the other videos and see we're getting a lot of our materials from the land. ✌🏾
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If you think about it, what you are doing is pitching human labour and ingenuity against the natural process of erosion and pediplanation.
Nature will smooth out a slope so that the water runs right off. Nature, like humans, don't always work in their own best interest.
But with your insight you are helping both nature and humans!
Another thing that I would like to ask, is that a lot of those rocks you are picking up look like pyroclastics, so are you in an area that has seen recent volcanic acitivity?
Geologically 'recent' I mean.
Right, nature's been repeating this pattern for many many millenia, but with slight differences. We are people existing here and now with nature, so I think it's simply natural we utilize what nature has and has set a examples for us to follow. ✌🏾
My hypothesis is either there was an ancient volcano here a time ago... I can't find anything for this area, mainly Flagstaff has the ancient volcanoes. Who knows? My second hypothesis is perhaps a sizeable chunk of a volcano landed in the area? My observations on satellite and such lean me more towards a very small ancient volcano that maybe gushed out at a point in time. Not an explosion, but more oozed out.?✌🏾
Yea yea, appreciate the question and insight!✌🏾
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great info, moved to southern norway two years ago and ive never before experienced drought, the nearby creek stopped flowing for almost two weeks which is crazy to me. so this is much appreciated!
do you have an idea how to dispose of gray-water in a similar way that could be effective in filtering dishsoap and stuff? i live about 200-250feet away from a creek/small river, on a bedrock hilltop that is about 20-25feet in hight spaced across the mentioned length.
Appreciate it! That is crazy how it seems like more places in the world are becoming drought stricken!
To answer your question, you could do something similar for Grey water. We actually have plans on creating "wicking beds" for some of our garden beds and to handle our Grey water. The wicking beds are lined so water isn't infiltrating into the soil, I'll be doing videos on our wicking bed and such when we get to it, but you can also search on RUclips to get an idea as well. It makes watering plants a lot easier, especially during summer or through drought conditions!✌🏾
Wow nice job dude, really motivating!
Appreciate it, we've still got a lot more to create and do!✌🏾
Am looking forward to using water retention and harvesting for my small plot of farm land here in Borneo
Nice that's Awesome! Good luck on your plot ✌🏾
I recently watched a video that talked about a man in Texas who had transformed barren land by sowing native grasses, turning the whole area into a beautiful nature area. (I tired to find the video, but I don't remember the title well enough.) Watching you made me think that his method is infinitely easier and far less back breaking!
I'm still fairly new to permaculture and earthworks, and this is the first time I've heard about Zuni bowls and rolling dips, so thank you for that information. I checked out your channel and subscribed so I can see more of what you've done and are doing with your current projects. Keep up the good work! (And consider allowing native grasses help you with your work!)
Edit: I found the video I referred to. It's on the National Geographic channel and is called "50 Years Ago, This Was a Wasteland. He Changed Everything." Check it out.
Oh nice, I'll definitely look into that video! We are trying to promote all the native vegetation here and try to transplant anything we dig up from the earthworks. We've still got a lot to do, in a good way!😅 Thanks for joining the journey✌🏾
Awesome video! Thanks. Very thorough explanation.
Thank you✌🏾
I thought this was going to be something to help teach people who are new to this.
But I don’t feel like I belong here because there’s no explanation of what a Zuni bowl is and how it works.
You were talking to us as if we all knew what this is and we don’t .
Thank you for putting me onto it, but I’m gonna have to go look for another channel that will teach things from the ground up.
Sincerely, Good luck with your more advanced people! 😊
Interesting you say that? I felt I did explain the concept of a Zuni Bowl, slowing, soaking, and capturing sediment. I also did explain that these can be placed anywhere and it depends what your goals are for your placement as well. But perhaps my explanation just didn't resonate with what you were hoping for or I explained it in a way you didn't quite understand. No worries though. There are other videos that may do a better job of explaining, but we will do more videos on these in the future because we're just getting started with the restoration project, so we've only done a few things so far. Thank you for your input. I'm constantly trying to improve my presentation and explanation skills. ✌🏾
@shannonjensen3855,
I've been doing earthworks for permaculture for years, and I also had a hard time understanding the logic of this video, so you're not alone. I looked up Zuni bowls, and from what I can gather, you don't just place them "anywhere" (except if you're collecting dew, I guess), but they're part of a ditch/water directional system.
They're usually placed right below gulley heads (where the ditch has a quick vertical drop) to counter erosion, which you get when water moves too quickly across the landscape.
When he's talking about rolling dips, those are piped or gravel-filled ditches that cross roads at about 30%, with the road slanting down toward the dip to collect water runoff so it won't erode the road elsewhere. Placing a Zuni bowl downslope off the road allows the water to collect in the deep bowl, and then slowly run off the edge, one edge being a little bit lower, in the direction you want the water to go.
So yes, there is a reason to place Zuni bowls as a part of a ditch system, using it to slow down water and catch sediment. From the video, it seems that you can just dig them at random, without water running into our out of them, and again, I suppose you can. But if you're trying to slow the water, catch the sediment, and keep roads and paths intact, I'd absolutely recommend having a clear plan of where to place them, and understanding why (which isn't so clear for me from this video).
Still glad I saw it though, and got a name for this type of catchment system. So to the poster of the video, thanks for that!
@@nothingmuch2023 super helpful! Thank you so much 😊
@@GrowTreeOrganics that was really kind of you to take the time to reply! I have no doubt you are making a positive impact on everyone who comes to your channel!
If you’re looking for suggestions… Perhaps if you were to start out asking a few questions at the beginning of your video to let people know what you’re going to talk about and then answer your own questions. It kind of works like a table of content in a book that lets people know what they’re going to get when they listen to you.
For example:
“ ‘What? IS Zuni bowl?’ you might ask.”
“ what are the benefits you can get from a Zuni bowl that is different from other kinds of irrigation?”
“ Would you like to see some before and after examples?”
“ can you show me how to make my own Zuni bowls?”
Again… Thank you for your contribution!
@@shannonjensen3855 no problem. Always happy to respond to everyone if I can! I can definitely improve on my video and talking. Thank you for the suggestion though, I'll try to incorporate questions in the intro and see how others respond as well! Thank you for replying back!✌🏾
Useful ideas and information. Thank you!
You're welcome. Glad to be useful in that sense!✌🏾
Thanks so much for doing this video and explaining this for us. So much great information on natural things to do to help mitigate and manage water . Appreciate this so much
No worries, I was glad to answer all that in the video..... "you know"😂✌🏾
This guy knows his stuff! Inspiring
❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉good
Are the rocks really that beneficial?
I can imagine a lot of erosion gets collected in the pits, so without rocks it seems easier to empty the solids every x years with a crane/shovel
I mean none of this is written in stone! 😅 The rocks play a pretty important role in catching the sediment, but also preventing erosion. If you just dig a pit, it'll end up filling really quick with sediment and once it fills with water even, there will be erosion and the water will eventually just carve out the pit. The rocks also serve as mulch for anything trying to grow in the bowl. We're in Northern Arizona, so we get Monsoon rains and very hot summer temperatures. So it's also how we're adapting to our climate here and we have an abundance of rocks here! It's also up to anyone what they wanna do on their own property. Thanks for the question✌🏾
@@GrowTreeOrganics maybe making only a "top ring" of stone could lead to the best of the two!
The edge is then protected, while sediment in the pits can be easily removed during yearly maintenance.
Anyway: Good job you are doing!
@@jarnevanbec2886 yea, maybe I'll try a few like what you had just suggested. Experimenting only leads to the improvement! Thank you very much!✌🏾
@@GrowTreeOrganics follow up a month on, did these ever get tried, and did they work?
@@michaelsorensen7567 these did get tried and they did work! That video, I was digging new bowls, but we have other bowls that we got to see in action last year. I just didn't get film of it.✌🏾
Dude, you need to let the grasses grow around your orchard so that you can have dry matter to burn to create charcoal and ash to break through the clay and add carbon to the soil.
We will be creating char and wood ash from all the dead trees and branches we have on the property. But we'll be promoting the diversity of vegetation here as we continue the Greening the Desert Project. Appreciate the suggestion!✌🏾
Rocks are the best
We have so much to spare too!😅✌🏾
Brandon keep the videos comin'!! Are you uprooting non-native plants that are draining rainwater from the underground water table? Thanks Again!
Thank you! We'll be Doing lots of planting this winter and more focus on the landscape after the greenhouse structure is finished!✌🏾
"Game Changer", the over used expression of the youtube influencer. It is not changing the game completely, stop pretending.
I would agree actually with what you're saying. It has been overused, but I think it depends on perspective. You could say it's not a game Changer for yourself, but other people might have a different view. ✌🏾
Let's see what we learned:
- Shape doesn't matter, anything goes
- Location doesn't matter, go with the landscape
- Rocks. Why rocks? Why ask why?
- No specific tools or methods, go hog wild
Excuse me, gonna go put a pile of rocks in my neighbor's lawn. I'll let you know how it goes.
You're actually right! Everyone's property is different, everyone's goals are different, so doing it how I'm doing it might not fit what you want. I did explain what the rocks do. And tools are up to you what you wanna do. Thanks for choosing to watch the video, because everyone has a choice of what they want to watch!.... You know!😅 ✌🏾
you know, you know, don't you know, I apreciate the information you are conveying! I also realize you are not trained in public speaking! however your word whisker ( you know ) distracts from your message! I hope you will take this as constructive criticism, rather than seeing me as just a youtube troll!
Constant improvement, just as nature. I appreciate your criticism, definitely more work on my end in my presentation skills! ✌🏾
Excellent idea for (I suppose) mainly desertic climate. The only conclusion I deduct from this is that stones get heated by the sun and heat the water, that probably itself probably will contain algae. Here in the Balkans area, the mountainous area parallel to the Adriatic sea, south west Bosnia and Herzegowina, it all contains rocks that people could put to use. Take a bird view on G. earth around Busko lake in that area. Though sparsely inhabitated, might really work for water harvesting.
You could use this in other places other than the Desert. It only takes adjusting to the area in question along with what ones goals are. If there is a lot of cost content then it will most likely hold the water more. Our soil has really good drainage with all our sand here so it works for us. What you're saying though, the water would probably evaporate more quickly with the stones heating up and then heating the water, but the water will penatrate slowly unless your soil is heavy clay and can hold water. I'll definitely check out that area your talking about on Google earth! Thanks✌🏾
I'm In Catalonia northern Spain.
I saw a thing like that bowl on a hill near the ocean perfectly built, but it was the size of a room deep and wide.❤😂
The whole area is stone dry stone walls and 2000 year old terraces
That's awesome!✌🏾
🤔 i wonder if you line top of the zuni bowls with canvas if you can gather the sediment or at least most of it and it would make it easier to harvest and maintain the zuni bowl. It might even lessen breeding ground for mosquitos. Also if you want, you can make ceramics from sediment if you sieve the big particulates out.
That's another good idea there with the canvas! I'd be curious to know myself it made it easier with the sediment. We definitely will be trying our hands at making some pottery and such. ✌🏾
Interesting concept but you actually said the same things over and over. Concepts of why how where when are good questions to answer.
I'll actually do another video on these, as we're going to build more around the property, now I know a bit more for talking and what to talk about! Always trying to improve. Appreciate it!✌🏾
I had a thought about the vegetation that settle among the rocks. When we transplant /seed some of the more desired plants on our property in the zuni bowls, the new seeds would gather there and be spread by the rolling dip with the water.
Exactly!✌🏾
you can instead use Demi Lunes when you don't have rocks.
So many different designs for water management! Thank you!✌🏾
Excellent 🎉🎉🎉 I subscribed to your channel and gave a like 👍 Thank you for sharing 😁🙏
Thank you for joining the journey!✌🏾
@@GrowTreeOrganics you're very welcome 😁 Glad to be here 🙏
All this over a tiny puddle? Hahahha. 😂😂😂
😅 puddle for now. Just wait till Monsoon rains! It'll be a pool soon enough!✌🏾
Obviously you have never lived in monsoon country!
@@azgardenlover370 guess the results will speak for themselves!✌🏾
This video should have been about 5 to 7 minutes long. You repeated the same info 10 to 15 times
I think the nature has rubbed off on me.... nature is very repetitive!😅✌🏾
Analysis
Where is the water flowing
Where do want the water
What is the most efficient way of getting from first to second
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Show water flow so I can see and understand what you are talking about please Thanks
Sure thing!✌🏾
Can 19" stones be used to create Zuni Bowls. Not sure where to those larger sized stones
Honestly whatever size stone you have or can find will work. Preferably softball size. We just have all different sizes on our property, so we're using what we have!✌🏾
High pitch ding is unpleasant
I'll improve on that. ✌🏾
@@GrowTreeOrganics possibly consider limiting your repetition. without explaining it, you just replaced the word for pit & bombarded us with the term. Listen back to how it manages to be simultaneously dumb and condescending. Neither suit your apparent good character. Nice work though.
@@triedzidono appreciate the well worded criticism! At least now you won't forget the terms I used!😅 I've definitely taken note and tried to make improvements on my other videos since. Thank you!✌🏾
That’s called a gabion wall. Which is like a stone wall
Check out the other videos on the channel, we're building a greenhouse/ Earthship with Gabion Baskets for the walls!✌🏾
Risks of mosquitos breeding pools?
If they're going to hold water, that could be the case, but that's why growing grasses or any vegetation in or around the bowls is of benefit to help attract the other insects that will balance out the system. ✌🏾
cool!
This is great i love this stuff i subscribed. Keep on greening the desert
Appreciate it! Thanks for joining the journey!✌🏾
If only green taxes were spent on re greening deserts it might be worth paying them.
Exactly... greed comes to mind.✌🏾
Yuck charles We'reused to make is in the desert
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Where are you located? Your land looks similar to ours.
Northern Arizona✌🏾
I want to be more water efficient but I don’t have a bandanna.
😅 The Bandana Really makes a difference! You know!✌🏾
Wow good project
Please Study-Joel Salatin thanks 🌎
I have studied a little from him, but I'll definitely study a bit more from him. Always learning!✌🏾
What is the function of the stones?
The stones help further show the water, but they're also capturing sediment. ✌🏾
Beautiful work! Way to go! 🙌
Thank you! 😊✌🏾
Would this work best at the end of a swale? Otherwise why would the water flow towards this for sediment capture
Can you please explain the rolling dip more
It definitely could be used at the end of a swale. You can put them in a variety of places. You would want to place them ideally where water is flowing towards otherwise you can create a Pathway that leads to the bowl. I'll explain more about the rolling dips when we do more of them! We'll be doing earthworks between working on the Gabion Wall-apini!✌🏾
No Way! you're doing a wallapini?!?!?!? That is awesome. Do you have a section diagram of the one you are designing with sun angles from your area?@@GrowTreeOrganics
I have plans and the design for the build. I observe the sun angle more so and made calculations and drew things out. We've been here a little over 6 months and I camped for a couple weeks on the property before the move, so I had a good idea of the different sun angles and such.✌🏾
That's awesome! Could you possibly share those observations, calculations, and drawings in a video? A Wall-apini Construction series would be a huge hit! And from what I have seen of your climate will help to regulate heat. What are your Winters like?@@GrowTreeOrganics
Thank you.
You're welcome, thank you!✌🏾
I know. I know. Yeah, I know, you know ?😏
Don't you know, Zuni bowl! You know😅
Just found this: Which desert is this?
Northern Arizona✌🏾
I’m loving the cliff hangers at the end of videos ❤😂
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So if I did that, they would instantly become choked with weeds that would be very difficult to deal with. Do they get planted with anything they look in this video like pure infiltration tech?
Basically they look like rock lined zais
I actually didn't mention that I throw a mix of cover crops into the bowls, to promote more growing. But being "choked" with weeds is only bad if you don't want to maintain them. Those weeds are are good biomass, organic material that will only help the fertility. That's the nice thing about all this, it's adapted to our specific needs, what we're willing to do and not do. Like I said in the video it's the concepts that are set, but the design and materials are interchangeable. Thanks for the question!✌🏾
Fair enough. Definitely a labor intensive manual process though. Given your climate you are right it is likely a huge advantage over the disadvantages. I would like to see more on them, I have a lot of desert climate folks in my audience. @@GrowTreeOrganics
It can be labor intensive, but that's also where we all can utilize our creativity to come up with solutions to these kinds of problems. We'll definitely be doing a lot more, along with a diversity of other earthworks for Capturing the water. We're only 6 months into this whole project, so definitely still plenty to create and build! ✌🏾
we don't know
we don't know nothing
Well you know, don't you know Zuni bowls!?😅✌🏾
What are they called again?😅
Well you know!.....😅
The reason for using a semi-circular bowl shape also has to do with the amount of bowl surface for a given amount of volume (or earth that needs moving to make the bowl.) Spheres minimize surface area for a given volume.
I would totally agree. Appreciate that!✌🏾
Excellent presentation
Keep up the good work to save humanity
Thank you!✌🏾
clickbate title but silly .
"You know"! 😅✌🏾
I would have thought the rocks heating up during the day would cause the water to evaporate quicker.
I'm sure there is some evaporation, but moisture will still penetrate our soil fairly quickly, because it's sandy. You can always mulch inside the bowl to help. Thanks for the question✌🏾
Either side or both sides?
Both sides have a Zuni bowl. It depends what your goals are and design ideas and such. ✌🏾
Hmmm. They make great cover when you have to sneak across your property....
Add that to the list of beneficial uses for the Bowl!😅✌🏾
I always wonder about invasive species. ... If invasive species grow so well,, shouldn't they help green an area?
They do help Green! Invasive is loosely used and incorrectly, because invasive only means a lack of management. ✌🏾
@@GrowTreeOrganics I think about things like kudzu ,, where people say it grows outrageously fast ,,, shouldn't that be nice?? funny.
@@tsmspace exactly. There's a book called the New wild why invasive species will be nature's salvation. He talks about similar things and also just the misconception and labeling of "invasive"✌🏾
@@GrowTreeOrganics wow thanks for the tip . I've been going around wondering about if there's any such discussion. Here in Oahu there are some invasive species that fill the wetlands, but it's an amazing thought because they grow so fast, it's a record-breaking growth rate,, hmmm,, wouldn't that be like, a carbon sink??? Anyway I am going to check that out thanks!!
@@tsmspace no problem. I'm of the opinion that technically everything wasn't native at one point, but winds, nature, and human intervention brought species to areas and they adapted. ✌🏾
the Zuni bowls will fill in with sediment after a short while
For us, we want that, because as I had said in the video, we'll be able to collect all that because it will be good nutrient filled sediment for adding to garden beds, swales, and creating soil with. But it could be a negative for some people because it requires maintenance. ✌🏾
@@GrowTreeOrganics ok cool, but the stones will make collecting the sediment a hassle.
@@rwg727 depends. If I want to harvest every last grain of sediment. But we leave whatever fills the cracks in with the stones. It'll either wash away next rain or when it fills up, otherwise creates moisture spongy spots for plants to grow. It will eventually turn into a terrace if left, but it'll still slow and penetrate water, the rocks will create aeration in the terrace promoting more growth. It's the beauty of permaculture and earthworks, we find what works best for what we want to accomplish and what's in our best interest for our areas and unique landscapes. ✌🏾
Whats the advantage of something like this over something like a mulch pit or a banana circle? Or is it just for properties which have more stones than mulch available? Is there a good way to combine both concepts? I like the idea of composting in the water collection pits to build soil as well
It depends on personal situations and preferences. I think the Zuni bowl could basically be turned into a mulch pit or a banana circle! We have so many rocks here and want to utilize our materials we have on the property, but the rocks will capture sediment and create a fertile area if left, otherwise sediment for other places like a banana circle. Lots of possibilities. ✌🏾
@@GrowTreeOrganics cool thanks so much! As somewhere that doesn't have that many surface rocks available, I think that I'll probably stick with mulch pits for the most part then.
@@Darkfyre755 definitely. The beauty of nature... there isn't one thing that does everything and many different design ideas, it all comes down to what works for ourselves, our own values and goals and what's available. ✌🏾
@@GrowTreeOrganics yeah exactly! Every site is different and that's what makes things different and interesting 😁
@@Darkfyre755 different and interesting is the key aspect!😅✌🏾