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Not showing respect to the Robert doll or the Annabelle doll is one thing, not showing respect to the fans is another. FFS guys.
Ryan and Shane were better and funnier before Steven Lim started showing up in their videos, he's very off putting
I always felt off about him. Like he's an alien wearing human skin or something
nothing makes me happier than skipping between commentary videos and seeing the unanimous viewpoint that Steven Lim is "off-putting". everybody is noticing what a skinsuit-wearing weirdo he seems to be now. almost like the kind of guy who wants other people to pay him to fly around eating gold-flaked steaks is potentially some kind of antisocial greedy jerkbag!
I just watch world of mr grey Steven lim is the CEO of the watchers 😊😉 I think they're just growing, spreading their wings ❤.
Idk, I didn't mind Steven in the Too Many Spirits vids. I do think as a leader and CEO, he's very inexperienced and is acting cocky and indulging his worst traits to compensate for his lack of confidence.
He’s the one driving around in a Tesla and talks about wanting to live more luxuriously, he’s the CEO, but everyone LOVES watching Ryan & Shane. Not Steven. And he seems like he probably spearheaded this whole horrible idea for them to start a streaming platform.
This is so disappointing to me. I’ve been watching them since the early Buzzfeed Unsolved days and they’ve always been, for the most part, extremely unproblematic and scandal-free. Going out like this is wild.
I've not heard of them. I don't think? 🤔
Eh where not perfect people. Though they probably shouldn't thought this through
Sorry one more; they fully intended to take down all their content on RUclips. They quickly changed their mind when they saw the backlash and then gaslit people to think they didn't actually do that.
I saw it mentioned on RUclips. Didn’t they originally have it in the video and cut it after backlash?
@@kitkat6442 yes, they're gaslighting people now saying it was always this way
Yeah I remember hearing them say the where removing videos now it’s not in the video
Oy Vey 😮. Is nothing sacred anymore 😞. Why can't others be honest
I’m one of those annoyed people. I love this lot, I watch everything they put out. I am fortunate that I can afford the subscription, but I won’t be watching.
They are each millionaires, and of course they should be rewarded for their work, but if you want to grow YOUR business, you reinvest YOUR money. Don’t expect the fans to do it.
We are not millionaires.
Yeah I could afford to pay $5.99/month...but I'm not going to.
I don't even watch all their shows. Paying almost as much as I do for Hulu for 3 shows is just worth it!
@@sandpiperr Ya I've not heard of these guys or at least watched them 😮. But still. Must be frustrating 😕
Absolutely. They can cut costs by moving to a better, business-friendly state. Instead they give us a bit of a brag by opening with their Hollywood office, yet play sad music under it. Very strange way to get people to feel sorry for you.
@@Foggy_Morning Moving away from the resources of California would be a bad idea, because that's where the talent that they have in their videos lives. Podcasting and content creation is an entire ecosystem there, and no, you can't recreate it in Texas unless you're Joe Rogan and are going to go right-wing bro!
HOWEVER, they could downsize staff and find offices in a more affordable neighborhood.
@@Foggy_Morning Ya very well said. This was not a good idea. Period
I scrolled for a good 30 minutes in the comments on that video and I didn’t see a single good reaction. I honestly think they shot themselves in the foot and they will regret it.
I understand them wanting to be bigger and better but it sucks for the people who can’t afford another subscription. The people that got them where they are now, just pushed to the side 😢
I understand them wanting bigger or better but they had enough income to make it work. And seemingly just choose not to budget. Like they could've let go some employees, as much as that sucks. Because you can't tell me they actually needed 25 employees. Get a smaller office. Manage and promote their pateron more. And just make content with in their finances.
They potentially made up to 60k a MONTH on pateron alone. They had the merch income. 80$ hoodies and 40$ white tshirts. And each ad read could have been around 15-30k.
They for sure shot themselves in the foot.
Ya from what I've seen so far, this was not a smart idea 💡
The only 'good' reactions I saw were actual simps. But none of them made any good or even valid points. Things along the lines of "OMG SO EXCITED!" or "I LOVE YOU GUYSSSSSS!!!"
Only good response I saw was from Shane’s wife on tumblr
This is so bittersweet. They’ve been getting so much hate online because of this and I’m so glad to hear your level-headed commentary. I hope you’ll react to a Ghost Files episode someday too!
So, I loved Buzzfeed Unsolved, and I love Watcher. I truly do want to support their content. HOWEVER, the idea that I can afford another streaming service is laughable. I can't even afford Premium RUclips, despite how much I hate ads. $5.99/month may not seem like a lot to them for their new streaming service, but it's just another expense on top of other more crucial expenses. The cost of gas just went up again in my state, so I am not driving anywhere except to get to work, and to get groceries once a week. The only paid streaming service I have right now is Netflix, because they have a wide variety of quality shows and movies. I'm not paying for a crappier version of Netflix that only features a couple of shows that I like that I've been watching for free for years on RUclips! Make it make sense! Most of us can't afford an extra $5.99 because we can barely afford gas and food already. I love Watcher, but I'm really pissed that they didn't find an alternative option instead of forcing EVERYONE to pay to watch them. An option would have been nice.
If they started 3.99 a month, maybe they would have gotten more support but I digress.
Coffeezilla in the background of the thumbnail IN THE VOID.... Gotta love it. I was not expecting him to make a video on it but by doing so, Watcher has effectively gotten ragged.
Him and moist critical. They're done for 😢
To me it's disappointing. They have between 6k and 12k patreons that already pay 5 dollars a month and they only got a 40 percent discount on the new streaming service. When you put free content behind a 6 dollar pay wall? Then say its affordable to everyone? You are making assumptions. People have it rough this day and age and some can barely afford to eat and thats why they go to youtube bc its free and a variety of entertaining stuff. When you charge 6 bucks to everyone? Then you basically alienate your core audience who would probably rather pay for Netflix. Great video
Wonder if like youtube, you can check how many people unsubbed. So far on youtube over 60k people have already unsubbed. I wonder if the same is happening on their other platforms?
Honestly, they dug themselves in a deep hole. They didnt have to do this but I guess they were blind sighted by the thought of going bigger. I also think it might be the thought that they might fall into irrelevancy within the next few years which is why they thought this would be a good idea
Steven Lim said " I learned how to be human on RUclips" wth does that mean. I knew it. He's an alien. Lol. Jk. He's always given me bad vibes.
To me he's the main reason this is happening.
Shane and Ryan went along with it but they should've put their foots down.
lol just means he's been on YT so long he grew up on here
@@crlclssic lol it also is a very weird way to say it, the kind of thing a Silicon Valley tech bro like Steven would say.
Now, if nobody follows them and they come back to RUclips, they’ve already lost my trust now…. So, I’m just over them. It sucks but….
Hmmm 🤔.... Ya they definitely didn't think this whole thing through. At all. Maybe they got bad advice or something 😕
So Charlie (moist critical) said each ad read they could potentially make up to 30k
The pateron brought in potentially 57k a month. At a minimum 30k a MONTH.
The merch 80$ for a sweatshirt and 40$ for a white tshirt.
They had 25 employees which to me seems like overkill and redundant. Like as much as it sucks maybe let go of some employees. Downsize the office. They could make quality content they want without burning money.
They could've just instead put the after show on pateron. And used pateron.
Now they have to pay for the website. Plus video hosting or whatever is expensive as hell.
They could have done it in a way people wouldn't care.
Don’t they have a big studio? Yeah I can tell whoever is managing their money isn’t good at it
So disappointing, 6 dollars in my currency is 30/35 bucks, not affordable AT ALL and they have the audacity to say everyone can afford it, so out of touch, I read someone comment in the original video that they chose to cut down on fans instead of business expenses and they sure did, absolutely idiotic
Ugh... 😢😢😢😢😢 Ryan and Shane were mah bois 🥺😭😭😭 they ysed to work for bussfeed unsolved and broke into their own space with watcher channel and drunk history
Long time ago learned a phrase “don’t bite the hands that feed you”. This is what they doing betraying fans that made you famous and make you money .
i'm gonna say this separate from my edited post cos it's long enough but i think it should be known and worth others seeing, i feel like the reason why coffeezilla's low production works (i'm assuming 'void' came from just sitting in front of a black wall? i'm not SUPER familiar with coffeezilla but i wander over there from time to time when topics are relevant to things i'm watching already) but like a lot of us consuming content, are ADHD as hell and just need a background noise while we're doing other things. i literally watch like.. 1-2 videos a day like ACTIVELY and that's when i'm eating breakfast or dinner when my hands are busy doing something that isn't scrolling around on the internet or drawing/crocheting. everything else is being put on the background to listen to so content that doesn't require someone to pay attention to the visuals all the time is good for us to just listen to and for those who want to see the creator, they have a nice, unbusy video to look at. yea, sometimes the higher production quality vids are fun on occasion, but it doesn't have to be EVERY video.
(this is also why i can never finish any series of anime or tv shows bc i feel like i have to put everything down and intently focus on the show at hand to take it all in or it distracts me from other things too much so i start series and then never finish them)
How stupid, AND they're charging for BETA testing? Wtf
Just so you know YOU ARE MAKING UNIQUE content. Don't let yourself think for one second that you're not.
It’s sad I think they just shot themselves in the foot. I’m already flat broke and can barely afford being a RUclips Premium user. I doubt I’m the only one who can’t afford a new streaming service on top of everything else. So hey, good for them if it works out.
the "anyone and everyone can afford $6" thing was the real salt in the wound for me. that would require me to give up my apple music. if I wanted youtube premium, I'd have to consider giving up my music. the reality is that it's not $6, it's $6 that another 30-40 organizations are ALSO asking me to pony up. and they are not all going to be worth it. those of us who aren't whales have to actually choose what we do and don't purchase -- and purchasing Watcher is just a foolish use of money if you're not rich, full stop.
@@peachy_lili Since I do have RUclips Premium, I don’t have Apple Music. Yeah the $6.00 comment bugged me too!
It's even worse when you check out their social media promos about how they were hyping this up with a countdown to the big announcement, as if they were revealing a new show to the channel (which they were doing, in a roundabout way). They also did this a mere 48 hours or so before their live show in the UK, which a lot of people are demanding refunds for. And apparently the new streamer isn't equipped to handle international payments, so there's that working against them too, not to mention exchange rates where $6 is the equivalent of buying over 30 loaves of bread in some countries. Plus a huge chunk of their viewers only watch maybe 2 or 3 of their shows, not everything they produce. A lot of people are also questioning what their budgeting looks like for things like their cooking show, where one food item costs thousands of dollars to make, only to then ask people who are often teenagers and college students struggling to get by on cup noodles and sandwiches to fund that content that they probably don't even watch and doesn't get nearly the views here on YT as their most popular shows.
I feel so bad for anyone that was already supporting them on their patreon/memberships just to have this happen.
I know right! I was thinking the same since the Patreon members must be paying $5-$20. They could have given them a couple of months of free subscription of Watcher but they did not say anything about that. I also do not see that they have discontinued their Patreon (yet).
@@vaibhavirai3502 it's more insulting to give them a 40% potential discount than to just not give them anything, honestly
@@peachy_lili Asking their patreons to pay double, that sucks. I am sure the Patreon fans are LIVID...
because of this whole fiasco I discovered a lot of new channels which put similar contents here on YT that I can watch instead 😂
Share the creators bc I’m over here still mourning Jenna leaving 😅
@@kitkat6442 check out groovygavin 🤣
which channels are about ghost hunting?
@@hugoedelarosaGroovy Gavin posts something similar but based on what I've watched so far his main focus is on debunking myths or folklore creatures like skin walker lol stuff like that haha
for ghost hunting there's Ghost Theory
I genuinely don’t know if they can come back- I don’t think most of them meant to come across like this (though Watcher viewers will know there’s one person in particular who I think probably pushed this).
But to a lot of poorer/student/disabled fans they’re now just another case of rich people who didn’t care enough to think about them before making a decision like this- if there had been a second option (eg a free ad-driven version) or even if they had just kept ghost and mystery files on RUclips (the videos where they generally get an excess of 1mil each time) they wouldn’t be getting this kind of backlash. The way they went about this is baffling to me, honestly
Agree. Offer a tiered subscription option, maybe. Although at this point, even if they "come back" to YT they've left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths. Good job, Steven. I mean.... guys. Good job, guys.
I don’t like when the RUclipsrs I watch try to be something else.
I’d actually consider the investment if that Steven guy wasn’t involved. He’s ruined them.
It failed bc no one believes them. Steven drives a Tesla and Shane preached to eat the rich. I don’t believe they are hurting on funding, plenty of RUclipsrs that pull around the same views and have seen brand deal contracts have come out in the past about how much revenue it makes. Logically why would they become reliant on people subscribing instead of just putting 2 ads in their videos or putting bonus content on a paywall. They also sold merch.
You’re telling me they can’t support a 25 people team and produce the content. What about gmm? Smosh? Mr.Beast? Try guys? There’s so many creators already running companies off of RUclips. If it’s traveling then come up with shows that stay in office. Some sets can be in their garage. I’m a horror fan and a lot of classics were made off of nothing but creativity like Blair Witch and Saw. If they’re hurting for cash, be creative and find a new angle.
Walk it back and admit it was a bad execution of a possibly good (although not at all completely thought out) idea. They just dumped on their viewer/fan base. I admit i didn't follow them, but I can honestly say I definitely will not follow them now. Fan base appreciation is huge and is how they got to where they are now, except they are more about the $$$. I also agree with the Sam and Colby reference, they are trying to go Hollywood it seems, and even though I used to follow them religiously, the content anymore just isn't appealing. It seems like they are chasing the dollar, which is fine, I respect and understand that, but the content quality has fallen far and hard, IMO. Just my opinion though.
Omg I fell off of Sam and Colby. It just seems so dramatic for no reason most of the time so I don’t find them entertaining as before.
I did the math on this… If they have 6000 Patreon subscribers at just $5 a month that is $30,000 a month times that by 12 months that is $360,000 if they divide it between the three of them that is $120,000 a year that they’re making just off of patron!!! they have additional tears that are also $10 a month, $25 a month and the $100 a month so you know they are making way more then the math of $5 members. It sounds to me all they have is dollar signs in their eyes now and that’s their only focus.
Oh for sure they certainly were not doing pretty good financially.
@@JCARTSARTS982 They are living now I just watched the updated video from you… I miss heard the total the first time and thought you said 6000 if it’s 16,000… They’re making at least 80 grand a month for their stupid Patreon account. Almost a million a year just at $5 a month subscriptions. I’m doubling down on they literally think way more highly of themselves and wanted to see how much more money they could make. Greed!
The amount of ad revenue and their Patreon makes them alone is astronomical and they are not suffering to pay employees. Check out the video Penguin Zero just did on them, he breaks it all down. I watched and supported these guys for years and I cannot afford an extra $6 a month… This is a slap in the face to the fans who’ve been there since the beginning!
Nope, won't be doing that. Bad business decision on their part. They'll be back to RUclips when this 💩 tanks.
People keep saying its not too late to fix this... I dont know
They have lost subscribers and patreons.
The streamer is already up and taking memberships. Which means they have already paid for development, hosting, processing, security etc.
Something else unmentioned I wouldnt be surprised if this project had outside backing.
I think you might be right about that !, I have underestimated how many people are really P***ED off and vocal about this !.
they flew too close to the sun
now they’re forcing us to watch them fall
They left buzzfeed for RUclips, now leaving RUclips 😢
It is baffling. You have to pay for content that was previously free and at a price point that is directly competing with Nebula or Netflix but with a minute fraction of the content. Worse, if you support them on Patreon you have to pay twice.
i think shane only said 'roped into' unsolved was bc at the start of the series it seems there was a different cohost who left after a few episodes of it to a different company and shane was the fill in for that host basically but he never seemed DISinterested in the content they produces for those episodes imo
wait.. i didn't watch the full video on their channel cos i was disgusted. 'maybe' they'll bring back puppet history? did they seriously not have ANY plans to bring that back as one of their most successful shows AND the has the most videos for? bc they've been here and there putting him in OTHER shows for a second is that ALL they were going to do with the Professor (puppet) instead of bringing back the series? i feel even less upset about not seeing their content now cos that's what i was looking forward to the most.
THEY ADMITTED IT WAS IN BETA? buddies, u don't MAKE people pay for BETA TESTING... u don't start charging people until u have a stable product to sell...
it's also bananas for them to be like here's some deals if u sub before may 31st when they're launching this like.. near the end of a month rather than the start of one IF anyone DID want to sign up or had apprehensions about signing up until a bit of time has passed to get reviews of people who sign up early and want to pay for the single sub to try it out and might still want that deal before the end of may and MIGHT not be able to renew a sub in time? unless they can just pay before the current sub runs out idk. not that enough people are gonna pay anyway but why release a monthly sub based thing with a week left of the current month.
many viewers have also made a point that many of them only watch like one or two of their running shows, they don't even watch all the shows they decide to up load new content for. (which seems to have no rhyme or reason to which ones stay active or not bc i thought they were only doing 4 of them but seems they at least have kept 2 more i hadn't even seen new content come out for recently as well but i also don't watch them so i was unaware)
I've never watched the Watcher YT channel, but I do love everyone slapping them around for their greed. And it allowed me to find interesting new channels & people to follow - like this one!
Everyone understands the drive to make better and bigger shows, but they've been doing that successfully for the last 4 years and had almost 3 million subscribers and growing month on month at a steady rate, 12K Patreon members while rarely promoting it, merch, live ticketed shows...
It makes no business sense to burn down what was already working. They even admit in the video over and over again that it WAS working. They WERE doing what they wanted to do. They WERE growing and making bigger and better shows.
I don't know what drove them to do this but it's disingenuous to claim it's because they couldn't do what they wanted to do when we've all been watching them doing what they wanted to do with more success than 99% of RUclips creators. By their own admission they've been doing great.
I just can't make the math work in my head. They're burning down all their revenue streams on a whim, on a belief that somehow people are willing to pay $60 a year for one RUclips channel. They haven't considered that probably 50% of their audience isn't even based in the USA, so economically a large number of their fans are already priced out.
u are making transformative fair use content - dont let everybody copy-claim u when u are within fair use guidelines (i.e.- dont back down - make them prove their claims)
Gosh.... I am very happy for them. I am happy to join the streaming platform. I did. Content costs a fortune to make. If you don't want to pay to watch something, you don't have to. RUclips takes a huge cut of any revenue made. So... I think good on them. I pay for Netflix, Stan, RUclips Premier and more. I do that because I do understand how production costs money. If I want to watch great content. I don't mind paying for it. It cost me 40 bucks for an annual subscription.. I pay more than that for takeaway for the family in one night. So.. I think people need to settlle down. You don't want to pay to watch what they do. Don't. Find someone else to watch. Simple.
As a subscriber not from the US (I’m from Singapore), the fact that their pulling the plug on RUclips and putting it up behind a paywall, well…when they made the announcement about leaving RUclips, I kinda accepted that I won’t be seeing them anymore. I felt that I don’t wanna pay for a service so niche on top of my other personal expenses. I’m not sure about how the international audience felt.
They started in Buzzfeed, then branched off on their own to create Watcher.
Uploading to RUclips where you have free storage, free content distribution, and a larger audience vs having to pay for each of those. On site and cloud storage isn't cheap, the high bandwidth traffic isn't cheap, the website maintenance will be an issue, and they will have to deal with actually collecting and keeping credit card numbers and other personal information safe.
It's kind of funny that I've never seen a more unified comment section than under that video
I loved them on BuzzFeed since I could just put them on for background noise, but now I can't.
One of them states "all of my heroes were on RUclips." Really? None in books, no heroes in their families, our history is loaded with role models. But they got their heroes from people goofing off on YT? YT was not designed for people to become superstars. It happens but that should not be the goal. I realize people have to make money to live but we're all being soaked enough via this, Amazon, cable, etc. Maybe Watcher's costs are so high because they subtly boast in the opening about their Hollywood office, their big staff, etc, with weepy, sad music underneath, hard to have sympathy, guys. Move to a non-glamourous location, cut down on staff, and actually concentrate on quality. Personally I have watched them since Buzzfeed Unsolved, but they still aren't above veering off into jokes about farting, genitalia, viewing old history with 21st century eyes, veering off the subject for endless minutes with dirty jokes, none of that is professional. As for Shane being roped into Buzzfeed shows, you could tell that last season that he was truly obnoxious and hated what he did. I enjoy the Watcher subjects despite the childish bits we have to sit through, but times are hard enough. I pay for Amazon hikes every year, I give a bit of money to a few channels by people I like who DON'T do this for a living, they have outside jobs, & sacrifice their free time to do good videos. These two could move out of a pricey Hollywood building and cut a few people. How many do they need to research and draw cards to hang on a board? And we all know what happens when a sub starts. $4.99 now, $6.99 next year, etc.
Hi Jordan I just love your videos so much you are one of my all time favorite RUclipsrs in the world!
Ya agree 👍🏻
I loved that you also enjoy "Adam the Woo," who has remained humble and grateful to his supporters - while always providing fascinating & varied content!
The fact they already have patreon and don’t promote it. if they used that platform instead of adding another one, they wouldn’t have gotten such backlash. They have nearly 12k members so why didn’t they focus on expanding that? It just seems like greed to most of us. I love Ryan and Shane but this was not it and Steven isn’t entertaining enough to make fans stick with him. They should have done a survey first before slapping us with their video. It’s upsetting tbh. Idk if I can continue to support them :/
They had 12k patrons a day ago. That’s insane
How many now
@@armadildo6468 6k
There is also the added on bonus of...my mother made this comment of; "well what streaming service is doing what now? " because there are SO MANY out already. They are also combining into each other so we don't know what's up or down or left or right.
I had also had the thought just now. Yes I'm replying to myself my brain isn't braining. But anyway, I thought about if they'd also make a deal with Amazon or something like what Discovery+ does or KOCOWA+ or other platforms like that. I know their Unsolved stuff is on Amazon Prime but I just looked to see if maybe they were going to do what the examples above did as well to make a little more $.
A lot to analyze here. Not just from "Watcher". But also from the "fans". They don't feel special anymore. Just calling people "content creators" always makes my skin crawl.
is it good to call content creators anything but? is that not the same parasocial bond that makes horrific decisions like this actually feel really personal?
Wow thanks for sharing this. And introducing me to cofeezillow. I agree i feel like this will be a big mistake. Over the past year and 1/2 i watch more RUclips than i do TV and I'm in my 40's. Not that my age should matter but my son who's in college got me into watching RUclips. I really enjoy my favorite youtubers.
I wander if someone who can read body language watched their video, I'm not that person but to me the way Ryan and Shane seats on the couch looks like their leaning away from Steven like their not happy whats happening.
There is a bald guy who does body language videos and did this video
While almost everyone could theoretically afford $6/month, virtually nobody can afford to pay $6/month for EVERY channel they watch on YT! For me, that would be over $600/month. I use Patreon to support less than a handful, and of those I'd only pay to subscribe to one of them (Podcast of the Lotus Eaters).
I have been watching these guys for a while, and there is no way I can afford a monthly subscription. So I feel completly blindsided tbh. I was looking forward to the content they have been teasing. Such as the new ghost files. But I wont be watching any of that now I guess... the annoying part is some of my favourite content is the simpler stuff, mystery files is by far my favourite.
Someone in another video also mentioned it leaves their content open for other you tubers to produce similar content that is free. And I agree we may start seeing that happen.
First time watching. This was a great video.
Buzzfeed unsolved was when Shane and Ryan worked for buzzfeed the watcher is their own channel where they do ghost files and mystery files independently after they left buzzfeed
Your end credit song is awesome!!
Thank you a channel called The Freedy Show made it
I would honestly like to hear more to it!
ruclips.net/video/me7pbsfOJqg/видео.html&ab_channel=TheFreedyShow
@@cb42286 ruclips.net/video/me7pbsfOJqg/видео.html&ab_channel=TheFreedyShow
Oh great! Thank you for sharing!
I’ve been a fan since before Shane joined Unsolved. That being said, I don’t know that they had a patreon, I didn’t see it advertised. If they could walk it back, they should. Would they have been offered a large sum to host their videos elsewhere and that’s what made losing a percentage of fans worth all this? I hope they reconsider, I love their content, but I don’t support this business model.
Okay… so interestingly enough we want to eventually build our own platform as well. It will have more content etc. but we want to make ours $1 a month or $5 a year. So… if we have a million subscribers (let’s just say) they can get a lot more for nearly nothing. We will still have content on RUclips. But if people want more and better then can follow to a platform with no ads at all whatever. And we want to do it for nearly nothing because let’s just say a 4th of the million people pay for a year… that’s still $1 million. It’s not a cash grab. But that’s a lot of money. We will share equally with anyone involved. We don’t want millions. Just enough to live and do bigger and better investigations and experiments. I think $5.99 a month is crazy. $60 a year is crazy. You don’t have to gouge people. Right? I’m not sure what went into this decision. But yeah. If we do it, if we get to that point; we want it to be super affordable. And more like our own private membership. I’m sure that this will not work out the way they like.
Ah Jordan. Hope the Allergies subside. For a few weeks at my work my eyes got very irritated. It could be dust or something lol 😆. Very annoying for sure 😮.
They are actually giving Patreon members free membership to WatcherTV.
At lest drop the patreon. I won’t even pay for patreon. You think I’m going to pay to watch you guys? I’ve been watching since buzz feed days so this makes me sad. I’m a cashier so I don’t make a whole lot. If it was even 0.99 cents it’s still wrong and it reminds me of the react channel when every reaction video was going to have to go through the react channel with the brothers.
I love these guys and have for years, I love their content.
unsubscribed to watcher, subscribed to you. love the video, can't wait for more.
Good to see Steven Lim was cringe from the beginning
Id be so pissed if I was a fan of them. I just hope they reconsider for their own good because that's a way to kill a channel/revenue.
“Watch watcher on your tv” doesn’t offer a tv app, tells you just open a browser on your tv 🙄
It's sad :/
Yeah not paying for yet another streaming service especially in this economy which is total shit at the moment 😢
Whats up with the second vid there's a huge echo happening sorry this part is unwatchable
This is like when the Fine Bros tried copyrighting reaction content. Like bad bad idea
Hell yeah, J-Carts! I also love Coffeezilla and Nostalgia Critic! I think it would at least be good for them to give free subscriptions to those who were paying to be members on their youtube channel and patreon. But still, yeah...this really sucks for everyone who supported them. I think they will have some people follow them over to the streaming service, but their audience will be way smaller- at least at first. People who can't afford to monetarily support people they love just won't be able to do it. People like me. I wish I could monetarily support you and other cool peoples, but I can only support by ringing the bell, liking videos and commenting so the algorithm is appeased. They're ditching people like me.
What’s wrong with choosing money?
These dudes seem to have taken a pg from the Paranormies playbook Drain from your audience for as much $$ as you can then put things behind a pay wall then finally start a new subscription service Just another poor me money grab 🧐🤘✌️
The Ghoul Bois made another video today, apologizing. You should watch it. I love the Bois.
I pay 3.99 per month for an ad free VIKI subscription (grandfathered in price) and I get tons of content. One RUclipsr channel for 6? Pass.
28:28 Jordan it was ecoing a bit. Just letting you know
I know man the recorded audio was a bit low so I tried placing the same audio over the already recorded audio but unfortunately in certain places it just was not placed properly.
@@JCARTSARTS982 ok just wanted to make sure you knew 😊
Take care 😊
Ya if Jordan did that, that be shocking 🙀
Shane and Ryan are the best.
You Gotta figure out your audio man
Demons it’s me ya boi
I have to disagree with you about Woopeat. After he spent a week filming the backs of retail stores in Orlando and random dirt lots while he rambled about snack stands he worked at in the 90s I had to unsub and join up with the Sheriff on Troll Patrol
What about the people that cant even afford that there some family out there that are struggling to feed there family and like watching things like that but now cant unless they pay which is bad in my books it's all about the money is how I'm looking at it
They’ll be back to RUclips. Right now the way things r people don’t have extra funds sorry I know I don’t have extra 💰
I think the dude who ran Fyre Festival was the suit in the room. LOL. I still love Ryan and Shane. THEY DID WALK IT BACK. Watch their video from today.,
$59:99 a month? Wow I thought RUclips premium was expensive 😮. I thunk that was RUclips premium that was a lot of money too. But still, ya thats just really expensive 😞. Too expensive
$5.99 a month. Still too much for what it is