This Rare Ryzen 5 1600 Has 8 Cores and 16 Threads...
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
- A viewer recently sent in a mysterious Ryzen 5 1600 processor with eight cores and sixteen threads which is strange, because they usually have six cores and twelve threads.
So what exactly has happened here, and is this processor some sort of rare and mysterious find?
0:00 Intro, Specs and Why Does This Exist?
1:40 Do The Extra Cores Actually Work?
2:25 Gaming Performance (Vs Standard Ryzen 5 1600)
2:36 Starfield
3:22 Cyberpunk 2077
4:11 Kingdom Come Deliverance
4:37 The Witcher 3
5:18 GTA 5 and Final Thoughts
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I never knew this existed. It looks so cursed in the task manager: "AMD Ryzen 5 1600 Six-Core Processor" but with 8 cores
Haha yeah
imagine getting a Ryzen from an online marketplaces, then after installing, the task manager reports a different specifications than what's promised, even might get people worried that they got a counterfeit etc. but that wasnt the case and instead a lucky one 😂
you can actually edit the windows registry and change the name you see in task manager
Better than the reverse!
This is AMD's tradition, back in AM2 days there used to be 3-core Athlons you can unlock to 4-core and in the AM3 days there used to be 4-core Phenoms you can unlock to 6-core + extra L3 cache.
Finally a tech channel that looked into these rare 8C16T R5 1600s after all these year, too bad it didn't pick up much attention from major media sites back then.
Yeah I couldn’t find too much info to be honest! Though it seems a few people received one
it was because it is rare, not many were sold and the attention back then was for 1600af, not this renamed r7
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So rare and unusual it deserve its own separate topic. There's also an 8C R3 1200 and these were around the first year of Zen, 1600AF came after Zen2 release.
@@hateWinVista8C R3 1200?!
@@betag24cn You seem to have confused the dates. This 8 core 1600 appeared shortly after the release of the first generation Ryzen CPUs in 2017. The 1600 AF appeared in late 2019 so over two years later.
I love videos like these, where you just tell us the backstory behind and test out an ultra-niche piece of hardware that hardly anybody knew about. Keep up what you're doing, RGHD!
Thank you. They’re some of my favourite videos to make as well :)
I have a R5 1600 sitting around, this video made me want to check how many cores it has now lol
Haha go for it. Let me know!
@@RandomGaminginHD do these rare 8 core ones come with the x version cause i kinda wanna see how many cores mine has(edit u answered my question by me watchiong the vid lol
@@RandomGaminginHD I am a bit busy these days and eventually get time to check it. Unfortunately it's 6 core only.......but it still working fine. Just picked up a cheap ITX B450 motherboard, maybe can use it for a SFF gaming PC
@@type45tomcat21update?
@@samiboukhalfa9040 6 cores only, but still perfectly fine
Takes me back to my birthday in 2012. I had hoped for a gaming PC equipped with an i5 2500K with 4 cores and 4 threads. When the day arrived, I got the PC, set it all up, and to my astonishment, Task Manager showed 8 graph boxes instead of 4; my parents had given me a PC with an i7 2600K with 4 cores and 8 threads.
Awesome :)
hope u got better pc now
My parents gave me a pentium 4 in 2012
Uh yeah - that's even a better upgrade and I guess it did well for many years. :)
2600k is still a solid CPU@@raptorhacker599
Never knew about this. Reminds me when I went to buy my R5 1600 from Microcenter they accidentally gave me a R7 1700 instead. I looked in my bag when I get out out of the store and cheered a bit lol
Nice one
Nice free upgrade!
It's like all of those reddit posts I keep seeing of people ordering a certain CPU on Amazon and getting shipped a better one
i would feel bad and returned it, because, you know, someone had to pay for that, probably the employee who made the mistake
you knew you were doing something wrong, i hope you never work at a store, you will have to answer for this kind of mistakes
@@betag24cn I've worked at a store. Employee would have gotten in trouble no matter what. Company wouldn't charge the employee. The company would eat the lose and write up the employee for the mistake most likely
It makes you wonder how many other secret CPUs have extra cores.
Great content as usual
Another one of note would be the AMD Phenom X3. These were actually X4 CPUs where one of the cores didn't come out as good or has some slight defect to it. You could then activate this core with a bios/microcode update.
Most of them that are not the top parts in a given series, although what constitutes "a given series" can be hard to tell.
A few I9 9900T came unlocked for some reason in some OEM PCs. You'd basically get an I9 9900 unlocked at almost half the price. Still, not close to an 9900KF
I managed to snag a core 2 quad q9550 with 12 mb of L2 cache for the reasons you stated in the video. Good times all around!🎉
Nice. Really tempted to build a core 2 quad Pc again 😁
I remember seeing a guy on a forum claim his R3 1300x had six cores instead of four, but it did not have SMT enabled. He said he contacted AMD about this oddity and they told him to enjoy the processor.
I have this one, I bought it and didn't even notice it had 8 cores until recently.
Back in a day i've assembled Ryzen 3 1200 based computer for my friend. And was extremely surprised when i saw that it had 8 physical cores with no hypertreading. Double and tripple checked the results. But it was very much inline with Ryzen 1800 and no smt.
That’s awesome
early units, lots of confusin for the ryzen release, lucky moment
back tyen amd had so many problems, ryzen was a blessing for alot of people
Holy crap. 8c no SMT Zen1 will be a heckova collector's piece!
Never thought I'd be looking forward to a platform EoLing, just to see all the 'curios' come out of the woodwork.
@@LRK-GT I think i should take it from him before he sold it to some scrap collectors lol
wow. you got amds 9700k
Was lucky enough to get one of the AF skews and thought there was nothing better at the time. Now I find out that an 8 core version exists !!!! Great find.....keep the videos coming.
Its amazing how you always dig up these obscure hardware! Great video thank you for sharing! Keep up the great work!
great video champ been trying to get my hand on one of these for awhile is a decent cpu
This is the type of content that makes me really appreciate this channel. You're not chasing after "the latest and greatest", you're doing dives into everyday things that practically every other techie has overlooked.
I'm much more interested in a "six-core" processor showing eight cores, instead of the twentieth video about the latest GPU!
Yea I still have one of these and people just scoffed and said I just changed the heat spreader but CPZ and task manager does not lie. Glad to see finally another one out there.
Hi RandomGaming, I’m the guy that owned the CPU before Johnny sent it to you, it’s cool seeing it in your video :)
My CPU is famous now fr
Thats bullshit, but i believe it
I haven't ever heard of these and I work with hardware 24/7! Crazy good content my man :) Honestly, the performance is good and I can definitely see it properly tweaked in a sub 250 dollar budget build :)
Thank you so much for sharing this.
Had the 8 core one, just won lottery when bought
You should add The Riftbreaker to future CPU tests! It's a fantastic way of showcasing how much better one processor is over another! :D
Rift breaker definitely eats up CPU!
I have one of these - was a nice little win when I purchased it all those years ago. This is still in my gaming rig that is overdue for an upgrade but still does well with most games and a GTX1070.
Would make for an interesting video if you were to Put the Ryzen 1600 against its competition at the time which was the I5 7600k or Ryzen 1800x vs I7 7700K. Wonder if the extra cores made it age better even with its weaker IPC.
Reminds me of the good old Socket A days when you could turn a Duron into an Athlon with just a conductive pencil.
Haha keep meaning to check that out
Or the Phenom era where the x3 CPUs where x4 models with one of the cores de-activated.
Do it
i had phenom ii x2 555 BE and unlocked it to phenom ii x4 B55 back then 😁 tho it was not as rare as this ryzen
@@BrunodeSouzaLinobut these cores may be broken, not always works fine
I had one of these. Bought it brand new back in the day and was a very nice surprise.
Nice find !!! Did you take note of the clock speeds in say cinebench single core max boost and all core max sustained boost vs the "normal" R5 1600 ? Curious to see if it was binned down or just not fused off.
Finally a video worth watching.
That's a nice surprise.
Oh I remember this! When people were starting to post on Reddit about this, it was established that it was a specific week. I was about to build my AM4 platform (and I still rock it to this day but upgraded to 5700X), so I purchased the 1600 right way... Only to find out that it was a 1 week older lol.
On the positive side, that was golden chip! Clocking 4025MHz at 1.325v fully stable! The majority of 1600s couldn't hit 4Ghz lol
i also upgraded to a 5700x! but from a 2600
I remember people reporting this about 2 months after release and it most likely is as you said. 1600 were flying off the shelves and it seems amd started grabbing 1700 were being stamped has 1600. Better to over deliver then under. Can you imagine if they were shipping 1400/1500 instead.
This wasn't just mislabeled IHS, the CPU's own self-ID was showing 1600
Well they were grabbing the dies because their yields were too high. Instead of allow the 1600 to be out of stock all the time; they just cut the 1700 dies. Some didn't get cut though and ended up shipping with 8 cores.
If it was a marketing ploy then it worked on me because I joined the lottery and got a 1600 when rumors about 8 cores came out. Didn't get one though, and switched to a 2700X when Ryzen was established as the real deal
@@jayb2705 It was an error with the factory as they usually fuse off the cores they are not going to use. However, I think in the rush of them trying to get as much supply as possible, they missed the step and did not fuse off the cores. So some people got two extra cores for free.
*than
Why your videos are so interesting? ❤
Allegedly there is also an r3 1200 with 8 cores without SMT enabled... Good luck finding one though 😃
Yeah I’ve started my search already!
@@RandomGaminginHD Nice! Hope it goes well 👍
It's due to AMD yields being way too high to ship such volume of low sku chips. 😊
It would have been hilarious if I came across one of those.
Pretty likely that I would not even notice for quite a while!
I remember this 8cores 1600 back in 2017, first saw it on a post online and my brain just confused. Turned out it was one unique batch from factor error.
Yep because they normally cut the dies before programming the internal chip that identifies the cpu.
This is a funny little cpu. Great review. It is in 1 of our back up pcs that is used primarily as a library. The windows 11 doesn't support it which is odd but not a bother. I have never checked how bad the bottleneck is on the old GTX 1080ti sitting in the rig but I am sure that card is questioning what it did so wrong to be the leftover card to be paired with this oddball cpu 🤣
interesting i never knew about this. i linked this in a discord server and i was told by someone there was even a 8 core ryzen 3 1200 also having the same thing of 8 cores as well, they said it was likely an error for the most part though for this to happen.
I'm running Starfield very nicely on my 2600 Ryz5 and RX580 8gb, looks pretty slick although I am noticing more and more things like slower load times so I am thinking the 5 is coming to its operational end in next year or so... I am looking at one of those engineer samples soldered to board from Aliexpress poss a i9 or i7 as either would be seriously in vogue for a good few years.
Bro unlocked special perks abilities which increased a chance to find a rare gems
to be fair AMD have always re-used/cut-down "defective" CPUs (triple core athlons, which, with some tweaking you could unlock the 4th core, the FX series where the FX6xxx"6C" had 2 disabled to be re-sold as the FX-4xxx series "4C" (or it might have been the FX8xxx down to FX6xxx)
EDIT: i'd guess the cores werent disabled before being stickered as a Ryzen5.
All FX chips start as FX8000's, Then they have 1 or 2 modules deactivated to become a fx6/fx4. its a massive 315mmSq die because of all the L2 and L3 cache and being on 32nm planer transistors (no fin-fet).
They're all soldered so have great thermal conductivity, They could output more heat than intel (they were also often overclocked way beyond reason and got the blame for those users) but would run cool, A hyper 212 evo could usually be able to keep them under 70c even with a reasonable overclock.
I have one of these just sat in a motherboard box in the loft, I bought it back in 2017 and didn't notice it had 8 cores for about 2 weeks lol
I have diferent problem with my R5 3600.:
When trying to work on it ( I mean, not only to work, just let it run for a while ), if running all 6 cores / 12T, it just crashes. logs says some cache/core problem.
So I went to BIOS and downgraded it to 4C/8T and so it works reliably again. And I realised, that when I bought it ( second hand ), the crashes at 6 core were not so often and under load, later they became as often as after few minutes of running Windows only. Is it possible that the CPU downgrades with time and become like this ?
A large number of the 3600's were defective in some way, they started showing problems after about 12-18 months of use.
You remininded me I have a 1600 on a shelf. Kinda sad itll never get used again. It sits with its sandybridge and haswell buddies.
is there a way to tell if you got one those chips with out having in your system ?
Didn't know these even existed! Thanks for the insight - though it would probably make more sense to get something like a Ryzen 5 3600 instead.
Also I have no idea why these 1st gen Ryzen's can't take Windows 11, but the 2nd gen can - the 1st gen is still a very capable CPU.
I'm running the Ryzen 5 3600. I've undervolted it just below 1.1 and overclocked it to 4 ghz
I got one of these about 2 years ago accidentally. A friend of mine wanted a $300 PC to replace his laptop and the 1600 was right in the price range we had in mind ($40-ish USD). I've kept an eye out for them since then but haven't managed to get another yet.
I was actually looking at getting a 1600AF when I was building my PC. I decided to go with the 3600 instead because of a sale. I'm glad I did because this 3600 is still a champ today for my needs. I had a GTX 1650 Super OC that was decent, I side graded to a 1070 OC which still plays everything I play at 1080 just fine, even some games at 1440p 100fps
Do you have water cooling? my RTX 4060 fans don't even spin in desktop with not much of a load basically and stays in 40 C but when I play they start spining after about 55 C and get to 70 max. I see you have 29 C in idle.
Explains why I saw a used 8 core r5 1600 on ebay just under the price of the r7 1700 back when they launched. Thought the seller had mislabled although the listing had no description so could have still been the case.
can you send it off to gamers nexus for full technical detailing i kinda want to see the per core clocks and die shots as well
i guess its was used on an oem w/ the extra cores turned off? ive often heard that same reason of turned off extra cores to meet the demand
I noticed across several games you tested, the MSI afterburner was reporting different amounts of RAM. Is this a glithc in the program or did you switch out the RAM during your tests?
I'm suprized how many people didn't know some cores are turned off.
KCD is a single thread game I think, Crytek based, so any benefit you get from cores is more likely to do with it offloading background tasks to the extra threads. We will need 8 cores soon I think, though, as consoles have effectively R7 Zen 2 chips in them which no doubt the AAA devs are utilising in new releases now the consoles have been out a few years and their games have been built around them. Cool chip though, I can imagine someone was pretty chuffed getting a sleeper R7 1700 for R5 1600 money when they plugged it in for the first time.
I had a 1600x I bought on launch, 8cores 16threads. Blew me away when I noticed it. BUT it suddenly died after around 3 months. AMD replaced it and the replacement was a normal 1600x that's still rocking to this day.
I actually won a PC from MDI that had the 1600X and it was solid at the time! My wife's PC had a 1700X and it didn't seem to run as well as my 1600X
I would like to see this compared to a 1600AF I think that would be a fascinating comparison
I remembered back on the amd subreddit people would go nuts over getting one of those
I still use a Ryzen 1700 for my office pc. Still works great.
6:22 solid advice if we were still in 2019, but the 5500 can be had under 100 quid at the moment.
Thats insane.
Honestly, this makes me wonder if there's anyone that got one of these 8-core 1600s and never realized that it had more than 6 cores. Imagine never knowing you got a free upgrade lol
This 8 core version was what made me take the jump into Ryzen. Unfortunately, mine was just a 6 core. I did have better luck with my R9 290 flashing into a R9 290X
did you use a stock cooler in tests?
I had one of these for 3 years before i upgraded to a 5600 recently! I used it mostly for gaming so even the 8 core version was letting me down.😅
How many kind the amd ryzen 5 1600??? I have too but have a six core only
I have a 1600x with 8, I bought it from eBay for a build for my son advertised as a six core, wasn't until I was checking some stuff It said 8, I just palmed it off as some sort of bios glitch but now I see this video, I never actually looked into it any further like testing anything.
I'm in Scotland and bought it from someone in England.
have this 8 core in my media centre build
I saw a maxsun b650 yesterday can you test it
Can u make a super cheep build around rtx 2060
Nice find , ebay now starts running out of speculative purchases on 1500s hee hee
Did you test it against a R7-1700?
My old cpu I used for 6 years. It was a beast. Never failed me once. Definetely recommend it.
Just recently upgraded to AM5 7600x cus I found a deal
People need to be making mods for these virtual worlds to place trash everywhere since the lack of garbage is highly unrealistic.
Well, it would have been a nice surprise to get an extra 2 cores back in the day for free. Who am I kidding? That would still be nice...
Ok never heard of these CPU's .
My R5 1600 back in the day was only a 6 cores. 😞
I assume some people were really suprised when they bought one of these and found out, that it has 8 cores.
Never knew these existed, I thought someone found a way to “unlock” the 2 disabled cores on the die, kind of like the Phenom tri-cores unlocked to a quad-core
Yeah it would be cool if they could all be unlocked, or at least we had the chance to try!
I’ve heard of cores being unlocked before but actually getting more cores than it should be out of the box must be a first.
cool vid
Finally, After 5 years, I get to know why my task manager shows 8 cores instead of 6. I bought this misery in 2019, paired it with GTX1060. Still enjoying. I'm a Graphic Designer & Video Editor, so it's good to have 2 extra rendering cores for free. 😂
What gpu is the best for this cpu?
I would love to own one. I used to have 1600, mighty good cpu for its price.
I have a 1600x, do you have Change some BIOS settings to unlock the cores?
All ryzen processors are overclockable as long as you have a B450 motherboard or higher.
This makes me wonder how it would perform against a 1800!
I assumed this would be a modified IHS. I'm glad it's not so simple.
Tbh, this cpu world be a great collectors item in a pc tech display 💪😇🥳👍
I have that cpu, imma check if I have this defect
Probably a dumb question but how on earth are the percentile lows lower than the minimum framerate? Would have thought the word minimum meant minimum.
I'd love a comparison between this and Ryzen 7 1700.
You can do a comparison against Ryzen 7 low and mid tier CPUs
It'd make an odd collector's item.
I'm the one of the lucky one to have 8C/16T R5 1600...still works like beast for me atleast
Ive had this one since 2020, performed impolutely with all my gpus, from r9 270x to rx6600xt without bottleneck, the most funny thing was that everyone hearing "8 core ryzen 5" was trying to correct me with wiki & benchmark pages, untill i post some cpuz screens, crazy & cheap cpu, now im rocking a 5600x just for the upgrades, but not much difference from the sleeper 1600
I've have 2 bent pin 1600s i got gifted by a customer awhile back, hopefully neither are one of the rare 8-cores.
i'm quite good at bending back CPU pins and have done it on several 3600s, 3100s, 1600s, 1700s, but the 2 i've got are just too far gone to be worth it... several pins broken completely off and a dozen others bent to where they could easily snap off unless you have surgeon-like hands, not to mention the one that is caked in what i assume to be Oreo cookie crumbs and frosting....
Now now thats a silicone lottery.
Wonder if we will be able to unlock Ryzens like we could with Athlons and Phenoms
You should really add assetto corsa competizione to your cpu benchmarks, it's really cheap and when you put 40 ai cars on the track it's really heavy on the processor
Applications?
Very interesting thing. Reminds me a little bit Athlons and Phenoms, where you could unlock some cores or L3 cache.
Still - can not recommend 1st gen Ryzen for gaming nowadays. We need to remember, that this CPUs have 1 core performance comparable to overcloced i7 2600K, so not so good anymore, I got rid of mine 1700x and replaced it with 5700x, because it was causing me tons of stutters in Forza Horizon.
Where I can recommend cheap, high core count first and second gen ryzens as a alternative for even older xeons is some productivity.
It will be more modern platform for some beginner in video editing and still you can benefit from DDR4 , PCIe gen 3 for both GPU and nvme SSD, you will have few SATA 6gbps ports as well as you might be able to get some motherboard with 10gbps USBs.
Ryzen didn't start as very good proposal for gaming. 1st gen was underperforming in that scenario when it was released and it aged very quickly.
I remember back when I had a Ryzen 5 1400, if I recall correctly it also had 8 cores, coincidentally, something was wrong with it to the point that my pc wouldn’t boot half the time. Had no clue what I was sitting on back then though 😂
thanks for documenting this rare occurrence, talk about more luckier than silicon lottery 😆