@@y200sub Even in competition against an high experienced guy, it won’t work instead there is a high possibility the guy will injure himself. I would rather spend more time on guard passed and sweeps than these flying stuff
@@ghanimalmatar7721 It works once in a blue moon for a given value of "experienced", but certainly not the most worthwhile of techniques for the relative amount of danger they pose.
Yeah this Johnathan guy just has shit technique and thought he won off of that, but realistically sent the other guy onto a journey of a long knee recovery… Zero control of his technique
Seeing Through you aren’t going to make it very far if you think injuring people while doing stuff like this is just “what happens” If someone does it back to you then don’t train with them
Seeing Through you’ve got no experience so you don’t get it. You’ve got the wrong attitude. The uploader is celebrating accidentally breaking this dudes knee and these accidents just should not happen. He may as well have just side kicked his opponents knee, both are illegal techniques at white belt. You won’t get very far if you accept these spazzy accidents as part of training.
@Seeing Through May everyone who is okay with this WATCH IT HAPPEN TO THEIR CHILD UNDER 10 YEARS while doing their "scary white belt". It would not end with a conversation. It would end with a burial. No talk of rules.
You can see the injury happen at the 9 second mark before they fully hit the floor. The omoplata wasn’t even on properly but you can definitely see the leg injury happen.
Yeah, I would say that attempting flying armbar / flying triangle / flying omoplata - is like playing Russian Roulette. It is possible to succeed with it, but the consequences of failure can be disastrous.
I watched this like 20 times and he did absolutely nothing wrong. It's not the guys fault the other guy fell down wrong. That was a beautiful move and he executed very well. It's absolutely not a shit move you just have no idea what ur watching.
@@gamer8622 Hey bro, they white belts in some two bit comp. Shit move. Not worth ruining someone’s knee with a shit move. But a white belt don’t know the consequences of shit moves. They can’t think of the consequences. Yep, if it was some high level competition, no dramas. But white belts in that setting?? Shittest move I ever seen. Remember, white belts can’t jump guard in IBJJF rules, Danaher bands it from his gym. This move is worse.
@@Matto_Harvo I get what ur saying but the belt don't mean jack shit. The execution of the technique was obviously legal and and it was very nice. It was his opponent who fucked up and fell wrong. That is NOT the other guys responsibly to pay attention to
As a white belt, I absolutely want to do tournaments but seeing this kind of moves really scares me. That knee injury looks rough as hell and not only that but the idea of a FLYING omoplata makes my shoulder ache
tbh, after suffering a similar injury, i am 100% convinced i will never compete. unless your only objective in life is that of the physical, injuries are not fucking worth it.
All white belt tournaments I did I wasn’t allowed to do any flying subs, I understood why but seeing this makes me not wanna try it at all much less when I’m a blue belt. Hope the guys knee isn’t completely toast. The move itself was pretty I wouldn’t have even thought to do an omoplata flying😂
There's no realistic reason to learn, drill, or perform flying subs outside of high level BJJ comp or MMA. Hobbyist and self-defense oriented BJJ guys have virtually 0% reason to play with this kind of stuff.
@@Silence-and-Violence Personally I like to learn things that could also be applied to street situations, and a flying anything really isn't smart lol.
The guy caught my leg.. Was going to take me down... And get points... Was my automatic reaction to his attack. Would do the same on the streets though 😊
@@pichi175 he didn't catch shit, you gave him your leg. You're a white belt trying to do stupid moves. You would get smoked on the street, by yourself, flying into a sel made coma.
Naw unfortunately flying subs and jumping guard aren't illegal at white belt. But they should be. And this opinion is coming from a guy who hates that we ban so many techniques like leg locks or wrist locks from white belts.
@@Silence-and-Violence they ARE illegal at white belt. I suggest you check an updated version of ibjjf rule set. The problem could be solved by allowing slams. The risk of slamming would be a natural deterrent for this type of technique. Quinton rampage jackson showed how effective this could be in Mma
this is why I think they should bad jumping attacks. very dangerous and unfair to the person that is on the receiving end. when you could block most jumping attacks my power bombing them into the mat, but that is not allowed because its to dangerous.
What about jumping straight to close guard? No angles just in front jump to guard. Only way they can hurt their knees is if their legs are locked out straight when standing up or if the person standing is much lower weight or something
That was not submission by omoplata per say ! The range to submit was not achieved ! The other gentleman injured his knee therefore he tapped because of it ….to be exact he injured the other gentleman’s MCL by jumping with all of his weight to the side of the knee of the opponent’s…. Very bad !!!! That’s not how one should win !!!
Trash. He devastated his opponents knee… The guy is probably out for a while now. But at least you got your submission right? Have some respect for your opponent
@@pichi175 I can't believe you're being smug about how you recklessly and needlessly injured someone's knee. That, combined with the video title... pretty sure we're dealing with a narcissist here. You're a disgrace to the BJJ community - best to take off that belt, champ.
I immediately got nervous seeing the white belt after seeing the title of this video. Am not surprised whatsoever that this ended in probable major injury.
A very ambitious athlete will try to immediatly injury the opponent if the rules allow it, and some of them won't even disguise it. Before Kani Basami was banned some athletes just went all for the opponents knees, no mercy. Some people will try to win at all costs, no mather how much you try to educate the whole community.
Reckless and poorly executed. Not only did he injure his opponent, he was not in a position to get the submission anyway. He landed too far backwards to apply leverage to arm, and there was no hip control to stop the opponent from rolling out of it. Great way to stop someone else from training for months.
@@pichi175 your reaction was to spazz out and give someone a permanant injury? your stupidity makes you a danger to yourself and others. Please leave this sport.
@@pichi175yo you're the white belt who injured that. guy? That was a shitty move man. Just lose the points rather than try that, I hope you make better decisions moving forward.
The way this guy tries to defend himself in the comments is disgusting. "I was about to lose points so i went for the flying omaplata". Are you serious. Injuring a fellow practitioner because of your precious points and $5 medal. Get a life.
He is not a red belt, if that's what you mean, he is a white belt, you can see the belt below the red belt that he is using, this red one in the video is just for tournaments.
Terrible! Maybe this was His Last Time on the mat. They look like they are in their 40's and then this happens as a whitebelt? Body and/or soul maybe wont recover from this...
Yeh - he tore his mcl and meniscus. Same thing happened to me. Submission bullshit - flying / jumping submissions and guards should be banned in BJJ. Causes way to many injuries
This is exactly why you can’t do flying moves as a white belt. Also what martial art is this? Def not bjj considering a solid red belt is only for legends.
This was so painful to watch. It is more painful to watch that he likes other white belts' comments that validate this move. Do yourself a favor and delete this video because it does you no good. Listen to feedback
When I was in high-school I had an older group of friends. One night between my sophomore and junior year we threw a party and set up a bunch of tents to smoke and "hangout" in during the party. My one friend Kyle who was 2 years older , would always pick on me. I wasn't the smallest of the group , but the youngest and I had a baby face in high school. I started training mma just a year prior but I told nobody. I thought if I told my friends that would antagonize them and they would always be trying to test me to see if I could actually hold my own. So on the night of this party Kyle is pretty hammered. I can just see him gazing at me across the bon fire. I have a bong on my lap and I ask him if he's cool and if he wants to hit it. He just replys " I'm gonna kill you " . I knew he was serious because he was a total hardass and there were tons of chick's around. For some reason in his mind , beating up your friends makes you alpha and desirable. Which I think it's the total opposite. High school though. Ya know? Anyways he jumps up off his chair and tackles me backwards off my chair. I instantly and I mean instantly landed in my guard and tossed up an arm bar that I then transitioned into an on the omoplata. He screams and refuses to tap. Begging to let go. I'm scared that if I let go we will end up having an actual brawl. So I hold on. Now he's pissed. He starts flailing trying to get out but this sucker is sunk in deep. He makes another quick move and everybody hears a loud snap. Tears. Instant tears. My friend Tim's dad comes out to see why Kyle is freaking out. I let go and jump up. Kyle and this girl Lauren leave to go to the hospital and Tim's dad fist bumps me and says " you did that? Good for you I hate that fucking punk. " I lost my virginity that night and Kyle never messed with me again. We actually became really good friends and he's a trauma surgeon in Philly. Good times
The fact you can't see and admit your ass hitting the side of his knee is exactly why you shouldn't be doing moves like that. Especially as a white belt.
Flying attacks are kinda meh in a street fight. If you land it, the guy is pretty much done. If not, your head just hit the pavement. Either way, flying attacks end the fight😗
That's not an actual red belt. You don't actually believe a red belt did a tourney with a white right? They're just using the red belt the way most tournies use a green/yellow belt.
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Falling-on-the-knee-plata win in 10 seconds.
😂
Exactly
Exactly!
he tapped to knee injury tho
Oh fuck. Saw it the second time.
Due to the fact he went for the flying omoplata
arghhhhh
Still tapped lol
Well spotted
This is why John Danaher bans all these techniques in his gym. Hope that knee is okay
Exactly, this shit has no real combat value outside of competition and it makes both players more prone to injuries, better banned
@@y200sub Even in competition against an high experienced guy, it won’t work instead there is a high possibility the guy will injure himself. I would rather spend more time on guard passed and sweeps than these flying stuff
@@ghanimalmatar7721 It works once in a blue moon for a given value of "experienced", but certainly not the most worthwhile of techniques for the relative amount of danger they pose.
This comment section gave me hemorrhoids
@@Malouco fax
Flying = falling
Omoplata = breaking a knee
Pretty shitty
At 0:08 seconds you can see that he injured his knee. Wishing him a speedy recovery.
No one would tap to that "omaplata". You just wrecked this poor guys knee.
Yeah this Johnathan guy just has shit technique and thought he won off of that, but realistically sent the other guy onto a journey of a long knee recovery… Zero control of his technique
@Seeing Through
Brain damage, part of sparring.
Dude you just F’d his knee in this then called it a flying omoplata win 😢🤦♂️👨🦽
Seeing Through it would have been a DQ at any white belt comp with a competent referee.
Seeing Through you aren’t going to make it very far if you think injuring people while doing stuff like this is just “what happens”
If someone does it back to you then don’t train with them
Seeing Through you’ve got no experience so you don’t get it. You’ve got the wrong attitude. The uploader is celebrating accidentally breaking this dudes knee and these accidents just should not happen. He may as well have just side kicked his opponents knee, both are illegal techniques at white belt. You won’t get very far if you accept these spazzy accidents as part of training.
@Seeing Through May everyone who is okay with this WATCH IT HAPPEN TO THEIR CHILD UNDER 10 YEARS while doing their "scary white belt". It would not end with a conversation. It would end with a burial. No talk of rules.
You can see the injury happen at the 9 second mark before they fully hit the floor. The omoplata wasn’t even on properly but you can definitely see the leg injury happen.
0:09
Technically he lost, thats a DQ for jumping as a white belt
you can jump for a submission but cant jump to a guard.
@@biesolov9255 thats false
@@samhyken5081 true. But in basing it off IBJJF
Why can't you jump as a white belt?
@@nobodyharder6575 bc its dangerous, shit like that happens. White belts dont have that control over their bodies yet
That was a reckless, uncontrolled jump. May as well have just kicked him on the knee joint and stomped his groin. Shit move
Yeah, I would say that attempting flying armbar / flying triangle / flying omoplata - is like playing Russian Roulette. It is possible to succeed with it, but the consequences of failure can be disastrous.
I watched this like 20 times and he did absolutely nothing wrong. It's not the guys fault the other guy fell down wrong. That was a beautiful move and he executed very well. It's absolutely not a shit move you just have no idea what ur watching.
@@gamer8622 Hey bro, they white belts in some two bit comp. Shit move. Not worth ruining someone’s knee with a shit move. But a white belt don’t know the consequences of shit moves. They can’t think of the consequences. Yep, if it was some high level competition, no dramas. But white belts in that setting?? Shittest move I ever seen. Remember, white belts can’t jump guard in IBJJF rules, Danaher bands it from his gym. This move is worse.
@@Matto_Harvo I get what ur saying but the belt don't mean jack shit. The execution of the technique was obviously legal and and it was very nice. It was his opponent who fucked up and fell wrong. That is NOT the other guys responsibly to pay attention to
@@gamer8622 All sweet bro.
how can you be proud of this…
As a white belt, I absolutely want to do tournaments but seeing this kind of moves really scares me. That knee injury looks rough as hell and not only that but the idea of a FLYING omoplata makes my shoulder ache
tbh, after suffering a similar injury, i am 100% convinced i will never compete.
unless your only objective in life is that of the physical, injuries are not fucking worth it.
While training you can also get injuries... Train train train... youll feel ready and get confidend. Them you can easely compet...
This is disgusting behaviour.
All white belt tournaments I did I wasn’t allowed to do any flying subs, I understood why but seeing this makes me not wanna try it at all much less when I’m a blue belt. Hope the guys knee isn’t completely toast. The move itself was pretty I wouldn’t have even thought to do an omoplata flying😂
There's no realistic reason to learn, drill, or perform flying subs outside of high level BJJ comp or MMA.
Hobbyist and self-defense oriented BJJ guys have virtually 0% reason to play with this kind of stuff.
@@Silence-and-Violence Personally I like to learn things that could also be applied to street situations, and a flying anything really isn't smart lol.
The guy caught my leg.. Was going to take me down... And get points... Was my automatic reaction to his attack. Would do the same on the streets though 😊
@@pichi175 he didn't catch shit, you gave him your leg. You're a white belt trying to do stupid moves.
You would get smoked on the street, by yourself, flying into a sel made coma.
Pretty sure this isn’t allowed by white belts... and this injury is why
It’s very possible for this to happen to higher belts as well. A quick search of RUclips reveals this.
Naw unfortunately flying subs and jumping guard aren't illegal at white belt.
But they should be.
And this opinion is coming from a guy who hates that we ban so many techniques like leg locks or wrist locks from white belts.
@@Silence-and-Violence they ARE illegal at white belt. I suggest you check an updated version of ibjjf rule set. The problem could be solved by allowing slams. The risk of slamming would be a natural deterrent for this type of technique. Quinton rampage jackson showed how effective this could be in Mma
@@reigninblood123 dang is that a newer rule?
I haven't done an IBJJF event in like 5 years.
I've only done sub-onlys in the last few years.
@@Silence-and-Violence no. It’s been like that a while now.
"sloppy guard pull into illegal jump spaz leads to MCL tear win!!!!"
this is why I think they should bad jumping attacks. very dangerous and unfair to the person that is on the receiving end. when you could block most jumping attacks my power bombing them into the mat, but that is not allowed because its to dangerous.
I had a white belt try to flying arm-bar me last week. That's exactly what I did. Don't try it, people.
What about jumping straight to close guard? No angles just in front jump to guard. Only way they can hurt their knees is if their legs are locked out straight when standing up or if the person standing is much lower weight or something
That was not submission by omoplata per say ! The range to submit was not achieved ! The other gentleman injured his knee therefore he tapped because of it ….to be exact he injured the other gentleman’s MCL by jumping with all of his weight to the side of the knee of the opponent’s…. Very bad !!!! That’s not how one should win !!!
As a white belt I think that any flying submission should be banned. We can't barely frame properly let alone doing a flying submission. 😒
Wanna roll bro? Nope.
The title is misleading. It should say something like "Knee Destroyed After Sloppy Omoplata Attempt".
Blown out knee from a messy jumping sub attempt. That sucks.
"Hey pal, before we start, if you 'accidentally' injure me, I will 'accidentally' injure you. Savvy?".
Trash. He devastated his opponents knee… The guy is probably out for a while now. But at least you got your submission right? Have some respect for your opponent
This should've been a DQ.
busting out a knee is not a good way to win
He had my leg, to take me down.. It was my reaction to try something... Oss...
@@pichi175 Its beyond me why youd post this match on youtube and call it "flying omoplata win in 10 seconds".
@@RareBreedOfCabbage cause if hes knee, didn't pop he would have tap to omoplata 😁🤙
@@pichi175 you didn't even have an arm over his back or have him flat on the floor, your odds of finishing it were shit without the knee hit
@@pichi175 I can't believe you're being smug about how you recklessly and needlessly injured someone's knee. That, combined with the video title... pretty sure we're dealing with a narcissist here. You're a disgrace to the BJJ community - best to take off that belt, champ.
Red belt?!?!?!
He jumped directly on his opponents right leg...OUCH!
Is that what happened ?
I immediately got nervous seeing the white belt after seeing the title of this video.
Am not surprised whatsoever that this ended in probable major injury.
Congrats, just fucked up his knee for potentially months, but sure nice "omoplata"
Yeah knee injury had nothing to do with the shoulder lock. Smh
That guys is a red belt? I didn't even know there is a red belt.
Bro just blew out a guys knee and probably will have issue with it for life now
THATS A DOCTOR STOPPAGE THAT IS
A very ambitious athlete will try to immediatly injury the opponent if the rules allow it, and some of them won't even disguise it. Before Kani Basami was banned some athletes just went all for the opponents knees, no mercy. Some people will try to win at all costs, no mather how much you try to educate the whole community.
Those are called Psychopaths
Its a contact sport... You can get injuries even while training... 😮
Good job cutting off the part of the guy screaming cuz of the knee you stupidly destroyed. Nobody noticed 🤣🤣🤣
Reckless and poorly executed. Not only did he injure his opponent, he was not in a position to get the submission anyway. He landed too far backwards to apply leverage to arm, and there was no hip control to stop the opponent from rolling out of it. Great way to stop someone else from training for months.
The guy caught my leg.. Was going to take me down... And get points... Was my automatic reaction to his attack. 😊
@@pichi175 your reaction was to spazz out and give someone a permanant injury? your stupidity makes you a danger to yourself and others. Please leave this sport.
@@pichi175yo you're the white belt who injured that. guy? That was a shitty move man. Just lose the points rather than try that, I hope you make better decisions moving forward.
Watch it in slow mo .25x. Guy in blue buckled the right knee of guy in white GI. Very unsafe and unsportsmanlike conduct for a friendly match.
Hope he didn’t tear anything in that knee.
Hey man. don't get mad at him if the rules didn't say Don't.
The way this guy tries to defend himself in the comments is disgusting.
"I was about to lose points so i went for the flying omaplata". Are you serious. Injuring a fellow practitioner because of your precious points and $5 medal. Get a life.
That was his knee. There wasn't no pressure on the Omoplata.
that's why john bans jumping techniques
White belt taps a red belt. What is this world coming to
Wait lemme make it better for you
From the pov of The guy in the blue: My name is Giovanni Georgo and everybody calls me georgo
If anyone tried this move on me, I'd smash them in the face ten seconds later.
This seems quite an advanced. Is this something a White Belt should be doing while sparring?
Competition
@@pichi175 Yeah and YOU should still not be doing this if you insist on landing on his knee - sparring, competition, or anywhere
Why would you post this? This is like winning an MMA fight by oblique kick and hyperextending opponents knee: good job I guess?
El boludo con esa linda toma le rompió la rodilla
Him holding his knee in pain at 0:14 but you thinking you just beat a red belt with a flying omoplata
He is not a red belt, if that's what you mean, he is a white belt, you can see the belt below the red belt that he is using, this red one in the video is just for tournaments.
@@HallDRK3 oh I hadn’t seen that, thanks for pointing it out
White belt doing a flying omoplata ? Yeah right
Terrible!
Maybe this was His Last Time on the mat. They look like they are in their 40's and then this happens as a whitebelt?
Body and/or soul maybe wont recover from this...
wrecked his leg :(
he didnt tap to the shitty omoplata lol
Mate he taps because you fucked his knee up.
so what happened? was the knee badly injured or just strained?
This was a Knee injury
Why the misleading title, it wasn't an omoplata win....
That knee though!
"Win."
Horrible knee injury
Yeh - he tore his mcl and meniscus. Same thing happened to me. Submission bullshit - flying / jumping submissions and guards should be banned in BJJ. Causes way to many injuries
is he injured his knee?
Absolutely not something a whitebelt (or a bluebelt) should be doing. You'd be kicked from my gym for pulling that stunt.
That knee though ouch!!
If anyone know the white gi tell him to learn ouchi gari. It will help him avoid this in the future
Tnx... Idd, he should go for a sweep. Was reflex while he had my leg
Bit of a strange brag, looks cool and creative but I feel for the guy who's knee is fucked.
That's shameful
0:09 that must hurt
This is exactly why you can’t do flying moves as a white belt. Also what martial art is this? Def not bjj considering a solid red belt is only for legends.
Knee buckled , not a shoulder lock. Sankaku garame for all judoka
jumping techniques are only blue belt and up at my gym
Idd, blue and up was a DQ, depite I ve jumped because he took my leg to take me down
Is this consideredas jumping guard?
Got a DQ... 😮
@@pichi175 Well-deserved.
But he never flew anywhere though that's more like jump Plata
Blue butt bombed white's knee
Ouuu that knee tweeking looked bad
This was so painful to watch. It is more painful to watch that he likes other white belts' comments that validate this move. Do yourself a favor and delete this video because it does you no good. Listen to feedback
That was hard to watch
Omg no
He even didn’t t secure the omoplata escape, such a bad technique and dangerous .
judo belts?
When I was in high-school I had an older group of friends. One night between my sophomore and junior year we threw a party and set up a bunch of tents to smoke and "hangout" in during the party. My one friend Kyle who was 2 years older , would always pick on me. I wasn't the smallest of the group , but the youngest and I had a baby face in high school. I started training mma just a year prior but I told nobody. I thought if I told my friends that would antagonize them and they would always be trying to test me to see if I could actually hold my own. So on the night of this party Kyle is pretty hammered. I can just see him gazing at me across the bon fire. I have a bong on my lap and I ask him if he's cool and if he wants to hit it. He just replys " I'm gonna kill you " . I knew he was serious because he was a total hardass and there were tons of chick's around. For some reason in his mind , beating up your friends makes you alpha and desirable. Which I think it's the total opposite. High school though. Ya know? Anyways he jumps up off his chair and tackles me backwards off my chair. I instantly and I mean instantly landed in my guard and tossed up an arm bar that I then transitioned into an on the omoplata. He screams and refuses to tap. Begging to let go. I'm scared that if I let go we will end up having an actual brawl. So I hold on. Now he's pissed. He starts flailing trying to get out but this sucker is sunk in deep. He makes another quick move and everybody hears a loud snap. Tears. Instant tears. My friend Tim's dad comes out to see why Kyle is freaking out. I let go and jump up. Kyle and this girl Lauren leave to go to the hospital and Tim's dad fist bumps me and says " you did that? Good for you I hate that fucking punk. " I lost my virginity that night and Kyle never messed with me again. We actually became really good friends and he's a trauma surgeon in Philly. Good times
Poor technique, fucking sucks that the guy looks older too. Hope this doesn't fuck up his life man
The fact you can't see and admit your ass hitting the side of his knee is exactly why you shouldn't be doing moves like that. Especially as a white belt.
Flying attacks are kinda meh in a street fight. If you land it, the guy is pretty much done. If not, your head just hit the pavement. Either way, flying attacks end the fight😗
terrible sportsmanship. embarrassing
Flying knee break. Definitely need to see more of this in white belt comps for nothing 🤡😂
Stop pulling guard
Fly, jumping anything is just dumb. No regard for possible injuries.
Horrible technique. Resulted in injuring the opponent
that poor guy's knee
Yikes
How stupid. Never attempt that while rolling in the gym
Was a competition
Gotta train for every situation
@@pichi175didn’t you get DQ?
Shame 😣
Imagine being a red belt losing to a white belt
I mean the dude jumped on his knee, look at the dudes right leg
Red belt will never be the same again
That's not an actual red belt.
You don't actually believe a red belt did a tourney with a white right?
They're just using the red belt the way most tournies use a green/yellow belt.
So many have been conditioned by rules of competition.
White belts dont must jump... this is why.
I get the feeling he just submitted himself.
*flying mcl, acl tear*
Worst thing to see. 2 fighters with worst jiu jitsu of the world. Dois cavalos pangaré.