I also have the Lie Nelson number four smoothie plane. I'm very happy with it. I also have about twenty five other handplanes too. Mostly stanley and some wooden ones. It's very nice to have a collection. You're going to enjoy that tool for the rest of your life.
Many years ago I took a chance and bought a Lie Nielsen #9 1/2 block plane. The quality was so far above any other that I ended up buying a #4 in iron, not bronze like everyone else. That was all it took. Here I am 35 years later and I own over 18 Lie Nielsen planes and saws along with some other products they make or made. Every one has surpassed my highest expectations and I use them all the time and would never let them go. As long as I can work I’ll be using their tools because it just makes you feel more capable when tools don’t give you any trouble. Edit: After reading the comments I can tell you that it’s not just for show. If you aren’t getting much better results from these, you’re not doing it right or you aren’t adjusting your plane properly or you can’t sharpen and hone a blade yet. You will see results if you are doing it right.
Merry Christmas and thanks! Listen and watch again. Have some very nice comments about the Bailey. The Bailey is a Cadillac. The Nielsen is a Bentley. They both get you there one to just get you there and more style.
I had a full range of Lie Nielsen stuff, very nice quality, sold them all off on eBay then left for the Philippines, still using my 1966 Stanley 41/2 that I bought as an apprentice joiner in Glasgow, Scotland, quality was good for Stanley back then, and much lighter than the Nielsen planes😊
Very nice, congratulations on this tool! I’m working in a small shop in Germany that’s specialised in furniture restoration, which allows me to use hand planes almost daily. My most used plane is LNs No. 102, because most hand plane jobs are about adjusting the size or surface of a workpiece or cleaning up after a power tool. I don’t no if you mentioned in your video: I like to put wax on the sole of my metal planes. Using a candle I draw two lines of wax across the width of the sole. It’s ridiculous how much better the plane runs after that. And: I never had any problems with any kind of finish be that oil, wax obviously not or even shellac. The strength of glue joints didn’t seem to suffer either, my theory is, that very little wax remains on the sole after the first few cut, plus all the wax applied be the front half in front of the blade gets cut of anyway.
I've got all of Lie Nielson's hand planes 8 through 1, no 62, rabbiting plane and one of their block planes, and all of their back saws. It took me a few years to get them though. The bronze plane is heavy and a work horse in my shop. All of my planes worked right out of the box and so did my saws. I also have a collection of Stanley planes and a few I have no idea who made them. Never can have enough hand planes is my theory lol. My go to LN plane is the no 6 fore plane. I laughed when you laughed after getting the first shaving with it. I know the feeling lol. I tell everyone, save your bucks and buy yourself a Lie Nielson plane. Enjoyed the video and thanks for sharing and most of all, have fun with your ne LN plane!
Out of curiosity, why the #6 instead of a 5 1/2? Is the LN the same as Stanley with a tiny mouth? I have a Stanley 6 with replacement Hock irons and I love it
@@liquidrockaquatics3900 I have the 5 and 5 1/2 Lie Nielson jacks and use them often. I do a lot of casework for reproduction furniture with long and wide panels and reproduction farmhouse and tavern tables, big tops. I like the length of the no 6 and have it setup as a smoothing plane. I also have the 4 and 4 1/2 Lie Nielson smoothers that I also use often on shorter panels . I have a Hock iron in my Stanley no 6 and have it set up to use it on yellow pine and cypress. I use different planes to do different jobs for me. I've been a pro woodworker for over 50 years with 80% using hand tools. That's what my clients want and that's what I give them. Good to hear you have a no 6 Stanley and a Hock in it. Awesome combination.
Oh man, good for you!!!!!! I have been drooling at getting myself one, I check periodically on the site but they always seem to be on back order. I'm glad somebody got one. It's quite expensive but it's quite a tool. I just upgraded my Stanley number 4 with a veritas PM-V11 Cap and iron, should arrive any day... So I won't be pulling the trigger on that bad boy anytime soon. But good for you! I wish you many shavings 😂!!!!!!
@@anthonydtobias I hear ya, every time I checked it was on backorder. I ordered it last Thursday at 3:30, they shipped it at 4:30 and it got to my house in New Jersey by Saturday afternoon. Keep looking on their site. Thanks for commenting.
A 43% increase in price is ridiculous even over 5 years. Do you think their labor, material and other costs have risen that much? This only invites foreign competition which is getting better all the time. A well tuned up Stanley bought at a flea market will do the same.
There is a point beyond which the quality of finish is superfluous rather than functional and yes a regular used Stanley works just as well without that wearisome extra weight of bronze to lift and push. It's a show pony. An overpriced one. I would much rather inherit or find a used plane than waste money on vanity tools like this.
@@petemclinc Most old school craftsmen do their research and focus on value and utility. Some guy's aren't happy unless they pimp their ride. For me the value goes in to the product and if my customer wants full pimp they get full pimp. But I never push it. I don't care for it myself. I don't compromise on structural integrity to bling the product. My issue with Neilsen is that the pimping doesn't reflect the quality of the irons and it detracts from the functionality too. But hobby guy's suck that pimp up. They feel it ups their craft cred. But once you peel her out of that skirt and get down to business? That's when you find out what she's made of. Mutton dressed as lamb.
That’s what’s awesome about a free market, if someone has the money and wants to spend it that way…more power to ‘em. I’m sure the Chinese have an exact copy of this and will sell it for $50 because they have a 15 year old working slave labor to make it.
Guys .."stop "with the frigging stanley comments , a well tuned stanley will never come close to a l/neilson "you cannot polish a turd " ! and i own a stanley so i know , what a beautiful plane
Enjoy your new toy! I have several Lei Neilson planes, 4, 4-1/2, 62, block planes, and they're hard to beat. You get what you pay for with quality tools. Enjoy!
Wood curl therapy is better than sawdust therapy. If a person can’t afford a LN, a hock iron and chip breaker is a great option; it doesn’t fix the backlash in the Stanley, but reed planes makes a file to fit yoke and a replacement adjuster Edit#2 I was listening to part of this and glanced at the screen occasionally. I noticed the red sticker on the Stanley and wondered why
I have mostly pre-war Stanleys and Veritas. Never felt a Lie Nielsen before. I don’t suspect I ever will with prices like that. The most I ever paid for a hand plane was $375 for my Stanley No 8, type 11 (purchased on eBay a couple years ago).
@ I own multiple Bridge City Toolworks items but zero Lie Nielsen products, which should tell you about their pricing/availability. At least it can be said they hold their value
@@BobAmarant Hi Bob, I think it fell off a bench on to a concrete floor. I had a joiners shop with about ten men and fifteen or sixteen Wadkin machines. A great setup.
@@BobAmarant Hi Bob, I retired many years ago but all the tools are in my box. The plane belonged to my wifes uncle and was part of the american help wartime. I also have two lovely adjustable bits for a brace. 1940s.
I bought their 4 ½ Smoother for $325 six years ago...guess who uses a wood bodied ECE Primus for smoothing...the Lie-Nielsen is an awesome tool...unfortunately, mine is a hangar queen. ☹️
It's a great plane but it is very heavy and may not suit everyone. To be honest I don't think it does anything better than my Record no 4 except for not rusting during the Winter.
To each his own. If you ever get a chance to try one, then you can do a head-to-head comparison and then I’d like to know your opinion. Happy new year.
@BobAmarant Hi Bob, I have the bronze no. 4. I use it a lot but I also like to use my Record. I don't really prefer one over the other, just pointing out the fact that there is a considerable difference in weight. This can be a good thing. I do prefer the edge that I get from the old Record Iron; it does seem to leave a slightly better finish when compared to the LN when both are sharpened in the same way/to the same degree. The LN is very well machined and finished. Is it worth the price? I think so, considering the quality overall but to be honest it's down to the individual and whether or not they want that level of quality. But like I said, you can do the same job with a much cheaper plane.
I have one lie Nielsen I bought 30 years ago. Its a skew block plane. It works okay but its nothing special. The bronze casting bends when you tighten the cap so its only useful for trimming tenons. Bronze is pretty. Pretty useless for plane bodies. I dont recomend them to apprentices. I send them to the flea markets and antique stores. Way better quality, reasonable price. Nielsen's are way overpriced now. Its a retired accountants show pony tool.
I also have the Lie Nelson number four smoothie plane. I'm very happy with it. I also have about twenty five other handplanes too. Mostly stanley and some wooden ones. It's very nice to have a collection. You're going to enjoy that tool for the rest of your life.
Agree. The I have are all I need and always enjoy them .
Many years ago I took a chance and bought a Lie Nielsen #9 1/2 block plane. The quality was so far above any other that I ended up buying a #4 in iron, not bronze like everyone else. That was all it took. Here I am 35 years later and I own over 18 Lie Nielsen planes and saws along with some other products they make or made. Every one has surpassed my highest expectations and I use them all the time and would never let them go. As long as I can work I’ll be using their tools because it just makes you feel more capable when tools don’t give you any trouble.
Edit: After reading the comments I can tell you that it’s not just for show. If you aren’t getting much better results from these, you’re not doing it right or you aren’t adjusting your plane properly or you can’t sharpen and hone a blade yet. You will see results if you are doing it right.
Cool collection and strategy👏👏🙏
Merry Christmas, Bob.
I hope you enjoy your new tool for many years to come.
Merry Christmas and thanks! Listen and watch again. Have some very nice comments about the Bailey. The Bailey is a Cadillac. The Nielsen is a Bentley. They both get you there one to just get you there and more style.
I had a full range of Lie Nielsen stuff, very nice quality, sold them all off on eBay then left for the Philippines, still using my 1966 Stanley 41/2 that I bought as an apprentice joiner in Glasgow, Scotland, quality was good for Stanley back then, and much lighter than the Nielsen planes😊
Very nice, congratulations on this tool!
I’m working in a small shop in Germany that’s specialised in furniture restoration, which allows me to use hand planes almost daily. My most used plane is LNs No. 102, because most hand plane jobs are about adjusting the size or surface of a workpiece or cleaning up after a power tool.
I don’t no if you mentioned in your video: I like to put wax on the sole of my metal planes. Using a candle I draw two lines of wax across the width of the sole. It’s ridiculous how much better the plane runs after that.
And: I never had any problems with any kind of finish be that oil, wax obviously not or even shellac. The strength of glue joints didn’t seem to suffer either, my theory is, that very little wax remains on the sole after the first few cut, plus all the wax applied be the front half in front of the blade gets cut of anyway.
Thanks for commenting. About 1/2 way through I added carnauba wax to the sole, Made a difference for sure,
Congrats on the new LN 4/bronze! I love mine, and all my other LN planes. "Buy once, cry once"
Good words to Iive by!
The fact I have this plane and still love watching it unboxed mean something ❤
Agree, everything about it is 1st class. The box, the tool and those shavings!
I've got all of Lie Nielson's hand planes 8 through 1, no 62, rabbiting plane and one of their block planes, and all of their back saws. It took me a few years to get them though. The bronze plane is heavy and a work horse in my shop. All of my planes worked right out of the box and so did my saws. I also have a collection of Stanley planes and a few I have no idea who made them. Never can have enough hand planes is my theory lol. My go to LN plane is the no 6 fore plane. I laughed when you laughed after getting the first shaving with it. I know the feeling lol. I tell everyone, save your bucks and buy yourself a Lie Nielson plane. Enjoyed the video and thanks for sharing and most of all, have fun with your ne LN plane!
Yes for sure. That sense and sound of pulling up a perfect full width and length shavings is fantastic.
Out of curiosity, why the #6 instead of a 5 1/2? Is the LN the same as Stanley with a tiny mouth? I have a Stanley 6 with replacement Hock irons and I love it
@@liquidrockaquatics3900 I have the 5 and 5 1/2 Lie Nielson jacks and use them often. I do a lot of casework for reproduction furniture with long and wide panels and reproduction farmhouse and tavern tables, big tops. I like the length of the no 6 and have it setup as a smoothing plane. I also have the 4 and 4 1/2 Lie Nielson smoothers that I also use often on shorter panels . I have a Hock iron in my Stanley no 6 and have it set up to use it on yellow pine and cypress. I use different planes to do different jobs for me. I've been a pro woodworker for over 50 years with 80% using hand tools. That's what my clients want and that's what I give them. Good to hear you have a no 6 Stanley and a Hock in it. Awesome combination.
This plane is so good, if I had one it would spend 99 percent of its time on a shelf 😅
So much more fun to use it.
Oh man, good for you!!!!!! I have been drooling at getting myself one, I check periodically on the site but they always seem to be on back order. I'm glad somebody got one. It's quite expensive but it's quite a tool. I just upgraded my Stanley number 4 with a veritas PM-V11 Cap and iron, should arrive any day... So I won't be pulling the trigger on that bad boy anytime soon. But good for you! I wish you many shavings 😂!!!!!!
@@anthonydtobias I hear ya, every time I checked it was on backorder. I ordered it last Thursday at 3:30, they shipped it at 4:30 and it got to my house in New Jersey by Saturday afternoon. Keep looking on their site. Thanks for commenting.
A 43% increase in price is ridiculous even over 5 years. Do you think their labor, material
and other costs have risen that much? This only invites foreign competition which is
getting better all the time. A well tuned up Stanley bought at a flea market will do the
same.
Can't argue with your logic.
There is a point beyond which the quality of finish is superfluous rather than functional and yes a regular used Stanley works just as well without that wearisome extra weight of bronze to lift and push. It's a show pony. An overpriced one.
I would much rather inherit or find a used plane than waste money on vanity tools like this.
Exactly, if they'll buy it, then it will be made.
@@petemclinc
Most old school craftsmen do their research and focus on value and utility. Some guy's aren't happy unless they pimp their ride.
For me the value goes in to the product and if my customer wants full pimp they get full pimp.
But I never push it. I don't care for it myself. I don't compromise on structural integrity to bling the product.
My issue with Neilsen is that the pimping doesn't reflect the quality of the irons and it detracts from the functionality too.
But hobby guy's suck that pimp up. They feel it ups their craft cred.
But once you peel her out of that skirt and get down to business?
That's when you find out what she's made of. Mutton dressed as lamb.
That’s what’s awesome about a free market, if someone has the money and wants to spend it that way…more power to ‘em. I’m sure the Chinese have an exact copy of this and will sell it for $50 because they have a 15 year old working slave labor to make it.
I love my LN #4. Sure am happy I bought it several years ago. I thought it was expensive then...
Me too, should not have waited!
Guys .."stop "with the frigging stanley comments , a well tuned stanley will never come close to a l/neilson "you cannot polish a turd " ! and i own a stanley so i know , what a beautiful plane
Very nice plane. Now you can start saving for a Sauer & Steiner.
I’ll have to try one.
That's a beautiful hand plane.
It’s a great tool to use.
Enjoy your new toy! I have several Lei Neilson planes, 4, 4-1/2, 62, block planes, and they're hard to beat. You get what you pay for with quality tools. Enjoy!
@@keith726able it’s been a long time coming so I plan to have lots of fun with this. Thanks for the kind words.
Wood curl therapy is better than sawdust therapy. If a person can’t afford a LN, a hock iron and chip breaker is a great option; it doesn’t fix the backlash in the Stanley, but reed planes makes a file to fit yoke and a replacement adjuster
Edit#2 I was listening to part of this and glanced at the screen occasionally. I noticed the red sticker on the Stanley and wondered why
Wood curl therapy, YES, my new catch phrase. The red label was the sales tag, just didn't take it off yet. Thanks for the comments!
@ I just wondered if it was a sorting feature having them color-coded. Maybe one set at a lower angle than another.
I have mostly pre-war Stanleys and Veritas. Never felt a Lie Nielsen before. I don’t suspect I ever will with prices like that. The most I ever paid for a hand plane was $375 for my Stanley No 8, type 11 (purchased on eBay a couple years ago).
I understand. If they weren't so expensive I would have bought more!
@ I own multiple Bridge City Toolworks items but zero Lie Nielsen products, which should tell you about their pricing/availability. At least it can be said they hold their value
I have a Millers Falls wartime plane which is very nice. Also a stanley after i broke my original.
How did you break a plane?
@@BobAmarant Hi Bob, I think it fell off a bench on to a concrete floor. I had a joiners shop with about ten men and fifteen or sixteen Wadkin machines. A great setup.
@ Oh no! Do you still use the Millers Falls? I think most planes will work just fine as long as they’re sharpened and adjusted properly.
@@BobAmarant Hi Bob, I retired many years ago but all the tools are in my box. The plane belonged to my wifes uncle and was part of the american help wartime. I also have two lovely adjustable bits for a brace. 1940s.
Nice plane, Bob. I'm a little jealous.
@@bobsheppard4661 you got me started on this 🙏
I really want the 4 1/2 to get a bronze version.
I wish they were all bronze options
I bought their 4 ½ Smoother for $325 six years ago...guess who uses a wood bodied ECE Primus for smoothing...the Lie-Nielsen is an awesome tool...unfortunately, mine is a hangar queen. ☹️
Why not use it??
@ Have you ever used a wooden smoother? Nothing is finer!
@ I have a few others but this is the best I’ve ever used.
They are a fine tool for sure...I use mine on tricky grain...(I use the 55 deg frog)...enjoy the heck out of it!
Your just trying to make that old Stanley look bad remember lie Nelson copy that old Stanley. Happy new year
It's a great plane but it is very heavy and may not suit everyone. To be honest I don't think it does anything better than my Record no 4 except for not rusting during the Winter.
To each his own. If you ever get a chance to try one, then you can do a head-to-head comparison and then I’d like to know your opinion. Happy new year.
@BobAmarant Hi Bob, I have the bronze no. 4. I use it a lot but I also like to use my Record. I don't really prefer one over the other, just pointing out the fact that there is a considerable difference in weight. This can be a good thing. I do prefer the edge that I get from the old Record Iron; it does seem to leave a slightly better finish when compared to the LN when both are sharpened in the same way/to the same degree. The LN is very well machined and finished. Is it worth the price? I think so, considering the quality overall but to be honest it's down to the individual and whether or not they want that level of quality. But like I said, you can do the same job with a much cheaper plane.
@ totally agree. Thanks
I have one lie Nielsen I bought 30 years ago. Its a skew block plane. It works okay but its nothing special. The bronze casting bends when you tighten the cap so its only useful for trimming tenons. Bronze is pretty. Pretty useless for plane bodies. I dont recomend them to apprentices. I send them to the flea markets and antique stores. Way better quality, reasonable price.
Nielsen's are way overpriced now. Its a retired accountants show pony tool.
In my case a retired purchasing manager 🗜
@BobAmarant
And a Freemason ?
get a room lol.no im the same, tool porn it gets in ya blood from apprenticeship im a 71year old whos addicted
We share the same addiction! :-) Happy New Year!