Honda CRV: Can't Turn The Key
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
- In this video I have a look at a customers Honda CRV. Their complaint is they can't get the key to turn to get the car running. Indeed it is stuck so now I have to replace the lock cylinder and housing. It is an easy DIY project but the sucky part is you need to program the keys when you are done.
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I Hope this clears up some questions I keep seeing over and over - ruclips.net/video/YW1kIMHsIvc/видео.html
Cheers,
Eric O.
I wasn't concerned with the key situation ...... figured the owner may have had a fob entry and it seemed to be an older tired Honda!! Suprised you could not see the ground being in upstate NY. Just concerned about the chisel and hammer. The air chisel is a sweet method...... I know you would need to run an air hose out ( I even rigged up an air tank for lot work!! 😆) . I cracked a windshield once with the hammer method!! I was bummed!! But the dealer I worked for took it in stride. Broke 2 windshields in 40 years........a learning experience!! Hahaha!
Enjoyed your follow up! Thanks!!
Very interesting point ... of being able to use a new/different lock & key, while strapping/taping the old key computer chip fob > to the/a dangling sensor ... In a soon to be Dystopian world, that is great information Thank You
So let's talk ???
I am an automotive locksmith of 8 years now, this is an ongoing problem and I have got all of my mechanic shops in my area to refer Hondas to me for the fact that I can do a lock cylinder rebuild with new wafers and cut a new key to code so the customer still has one key to work both the door and the ignition switch like it was from the factory, but if you don't have a competent automotive locksmith in your area this is another route to do it the way you did it in your video
It was very cool to see you using the autel 508 to program the keys, that is one of many programmers I have in my arsenal but definitely my everyday go-to
My father loved this channel. Sadly he passed away 9 11 22 . This channel inspired him to work on his jeeps v+his pickup truck. He was 72 survived a near death 10 months ago from liver failure. After his transplant he discovered this channel. It's all he talked about. We watched many together. Thank you soo much for the joy your channel gave my Dad . R.I.P Dad I love you
I understand how inspiring this channel can be. We see a guy not that different from us knowing what he has to do and doing things that make me cringe... not always getting it right the first time (we see it all!) but getting it right in the end. Excelsior!
my condolences.
@@davidmiller9485
Thanks soo soo much. He was a great man. I miss him very much especially those calls around lunch hour.
Yes that's exactly what it is. Between the two of us I know that one of us has a degree in electrical engineering.
If I was hitting that chisel, I would no doubt break the windshield on the back swing.
Absolutely 100%
HA HA .... probably needed to be replaced anywho .... ....
I'd of hit myself in the face, knocked myself out with my fat head knocking the car into neutral rolling down a hill and probably crashing into a a church, bar or a police station.
@@nickg9021 Mitigation for old methods of attack never really goes away. Unless you're Master Lock. Then you just never mitigate anything.
real
I just give a thumbs up before watching South Main Auto videos now.. cause you know they’re gonna be good and you’re going to learn something new
I do the same!
@@rolandbates6978 Who doesn't??!?
Yea, but do you give it the ol' insty and the facebook?
Absolutely! I've learned a lot from Dr. O! I've also learned what not to do!
Same
"coming in clutch" is the same as "just in the knick of time". Being super useful to the team at a direly needed moment.
I didn't know ether, My Kidd's 40🤣
It’s the correlation between a manual transmission part and how the term is used in that phrase that’s the issue
First time I've heard the expression. My old mind would have thought "slow and smooth", like using the clutch.
I've heard a similar saying before...coming THROUGH in THE clutch.
All I knew is that I did a sick move and my boy said I came in all clutch. I was proud either way haha
Missed opportunity Eric O! An epic collab with Lock Picking Lawyer could have been what the masses were begging for. 😂😅. Had a similar issue in my Lexus RX330 a few years ago. If Eric O can fix it, so can you!
HaHaHa! I just made a comment about him! It was the first thing I thought of. Particularly the Lishi picks! o7
If LPL showed up, he would have to pick the lock twice to show that it "wasn't a fluke".
lock pickin lawyer face would be shown lol, Eric can't help himself
@@dlsimmonsjr1 Knowing LPL, Eric would have to sign numerous waivers before LPL would even show up.
Ha!
Eric HUGE props for finishing the repair in the field. Everyone knows that bringing the car inside early would be cheating. A true automotive warrior in our presence.
Eric O I just want to thank you for doing more videos per week! It makes my day when I get to watch a new video you put out!!!
It's awesome that you can snap something off and it's a good thing. Usually when I do that, it's an "oh shit" moment!
Makes me wonder what the dealer does in these cases. They don't have a tool for that I'm thinking
Another reason I enjoy you videos is they are real. The things that happen are like I have experienced. in my 50 + years. I haved learned a lot as well.
Tongue-in-cheek...a true hammer mechanic! Keep up the great work! I'm learning a bunch!
Man, that tin foil really was the key.
I'll see myself out.
Don't be so paranoid.
Nope, I pushed you out!
Actually, that wasn't the worst I've heard!
@@dans_Learning_Curve
he got the tin foil from under his hat
@@andyhinners4402 that's why he's always wearing a hat!
Dad jokes, I was gonna go there.....
Thanks for taking us along on this one. Really enjoyed the parking lot repair. Have done that many times back in the day.
Not sure which is better, Eric's commentary or his automotive skills? Who am I kidding, they are both GREAT (and Clutch too)!!!!
I come here for the rookie mistakes. Keep them coming. I love Amateur Hour at SMA!!!
Just remember Eric--if you can do it ,i can watch it---thanks for doing it!!!
one video with mourning coffee and the other just before bed. What a combo.
You are one of the best channels on RUclips Mr. SMA!
Thanks for another great video I’m hooked on your videos better than sitting on the couch after work listening to my wife. Ty
The guy who owns it knows that you hate intermittent faults.
That's what I was thinking! You want it broke or not?
Hahaha
So many times this has happened now, had a similar job today at work on a land cruiser, then i get home and see eric has posted a video on a similar thing. Greay work!
I find there are many more shear-threads on a car than shear-bolts.
Now, that's funny 😂. Nothing like a little Kentucky thread locker
I don't know, it's kinda 50/50 for those of us in the rust belt lol!
And not just on a car!
Dear Eric... I'm constantly amazed by your general (and further!) electrical/electronic/computer skills, on top of what
the vast majority of general 'Mechanics' would know, or even think about!!!! I know that 'today' it is an integral part of
what you have to do/know, but you do it SO much better than those damn 'Parts Cannon' Dealers etc!!!!!
Not to mention you are also a wonderful & loving family man, as per your lovely interactions with your wife etc!!!!
I always use spring loaded center punch at an angle to loosen those security bolts
My auto repair experience has been accomplished using mostly inappropriate tools. Good job, Mr O!
Just got home from work to a SMA video and house to myself for a couple hours happy and some peace and quiet
You started humming when you got the shear bolts loose, I call that the hum of victory! lol great video as always, have a great day and God Bless!
And what a great feeling that is.
Reminds me of my locksmithing days. Great video.
I had that done before and guy used a Dremel to put a slot for the breakaway head bolts. Great job Mr O.
I love the tinfoil trick. Great stuff. Heck, I still program keys with my ol Autel AP200. Thanks as always, Eric!
Hi, Mr. O. I never enjoyed working on the dash. So it was great to watch you do it. I never had to program a key so that was interesting. Thanks for sharing! Stay Healthy!
Beautiful good job love the watch you working on it’s very interesting for me to watch keep up the good work
I've done those and most of the time it was easy. Vehicles were late 80's to early 90's. Good fix Mr. O.
Please don’t hesitate to do repeat videos on any work like this. First, you will probably show us different ways to skin a cat. Second, from one manufacturer to another, the steps will probably differ a lot. I marvel at your ability to understand concepts and processes to lead you through diagnosis to task completion. Great stuff!
Eric,
Great video and fix - thank you!
SMA#1
Paul (in MA)
Eric, Hopefully I will not need to do this, but It's good to know how its done. As always, thank you for sharing your expertise✌
You have really great videos. Between the excellent explanations to the great camera work you and your family are a true testament to the American spirit. I have a question though, What is the meaning of life?
Hey, don't forget to swap the faceplate before you mount the...oh, well, that works too. Another great video from SMA. Thanks for being so willing to share your knowledge. From a former locksmith, you can cut the head of that Hondu key apart, and inside is a small rectangular chip. That's what that encoder ring reads for the security system. You can pop that out and it's much easier to duct tape under your dash or the steering column cover if you want to permanently bypass that system.
Years ago I found your channel when I searched for help with this same problem on the same vintage CRV. Your video on getting the cylinder out of the column from years ago helped me with the repair back then and I have learned from you and enjoyed your entertaining videos ever since! We still own that CRV by the way. It's been a very reliable car.
I wonder what was my first video I viewed of SMA? Can't remember! It certainly would be fun to remember what I was searching for! He's definitely stepped up his video game!
@@dans_Learning_Curve Yeah, the first ones of his I saw didn't have all the video quality and the production he has now.
You taught me to do this on a Ford Escape video and it's been smooth sailing, along with Ivan teaching me to use a scan tool and a scope.
Well done and thanks.I have a 2003 Honda Civic (Accord on your side of the pond) and it has the same security system as that one your working on. It's been a very reliable car to me.
Love your videos best on u tube very informative
I wish dealers were honest
I was impressed with your knowledge of JIS screwdrivers. I have one at 40 years old used many thousands of times and it looks like the day I got it
Funny how Philips screwdrivers are designed to cam out! Not the case with JIS!
I've been watching you for years. I would gladly bring any of my cars from Groton Connecticut to South Main Auto!
Love your ribald humor, Eric O. -- never, ever change! +1 Like
Excellent job Mr O. !
Don't worry if we can't see what you're doing on the video. We're here just for your great commentary!
As always great job brother.always enjoy the videos.
Did a LOT of lock mechanism replacements for that same problem. Toyotas, Mercedes, Mazdas, etc... Some even had the shear heads still on from factory new! Someone forgot to go the extra 'click!' Nine times out of ten the driver of the vehicle had some huge keyring with over a pound of keys dangling off of it. After a few years of that weight yanking on the ignition key it would wear out one or both. Toyota used to sell a complete kit with ignition lock, two front door locks, glove compartment lock, and trunk/tailgate lock with all the clips and bezels and whatnots. Back in the mid-1980s it was $200 retail. Most other manufacturers sold them separately. On the cylinders where the shear bolt heads were accessible from underneath I used a left-hand drill bit and drill to zip them right out. Otherwise a long chisel was the way to go. They were never very tight. Love your channel Eric... loved the work also but not enough to still do it... just watch.
Great video Eric ! Stay safe !
I truly enjoy your videos. Can't tell you how many times my kiddo wants to know what the heck I'm laughing at 🤣... Thanks for the sense of humor... and of course the skills you share.
You did it the right way! It worked and didn’t require buying a new tool.
Thanks for the heads up. I'm going through the same thing with my 03 civic. Great job with the video
Been there done that didn't need the video to know what you were doing and no there was nothing wrong with using a chisel. Good video Mr O 😊😊
Mr O, I haven't watched one video of yours that I didn't enjoy and learn something from. Thanks for the great content. I was sportin my black, South Main Auto shirt this weekend. The chicks were diggin it.............
Ha the train guy! 13:03 That’s part of how I feel watching your videos!
Excellent
I've bought plenty of cars without keys from the auction and taken plenty of these shear bolts out. A trick the locksmith taught me. Just as Eric said cut a slot in the bolt use a flathead and remove. Or take a flat screwdriver and beat the head counterclockwise until she breaks free. Also used a stripped bolt socket big enough to go over the head. It grabs them and will back them out.
Thanks for answering so many questions in advance . Hereto fore I respected the Audi auto, but what a pain to work on ! 3+ hours book time to change a belt is just unbelievable.
Very informative with real life emotions. Just like it always happens to me when I am repairing my cars. Great tips. God bless your shop and keep you safe, Mahalo, JAH
Nice job Eric!
Another KEY Presentation from SMA 😎👍🇨🇦
**RIMSHOT** 🥁🥁🥁
my 2006 Odyssey ignition did the same. First time I removed the worn tumbler. About a year later the same thing happened so I removed all the tumblers and springs. Works great, no programming of keys, only issue is key can fall out at anytime. All honda key will fit the ignition but not start the vehicle. Good video Eric O.
I had a locksmith shop and did many of these. I used a awl with a full tang and punch a dimple and then nudged it around. A center punch will also work but the awl is easier to hold without smashing your fingers. Drilling a hole for an easy-out also works.
Shear bolts always induce a reverse euphoric feeling. The mind and body is used to feeling defeat and anger when breaking a bolt off.
Great tip re getting the vehicle going to be able to take it somewhere to have keys programmed. Hopefully every vehicle I have will enable me to do this if I am stuck.
Noticed you said you would have used a mini die-grinder but would have needed to drag an extension out to the car. That's exactly why my latest mini-tool is battery powered. So much more useful than the previous one, no cable dragging around getting in the way.
The more videos similar to this that I watch, the more I appreciate the fact that the newest vehicle I own was built in 1994 and doesn't have any of this "fancy" stuff. It's a 1994 Ford Ranger and the most complicated thing on it, in my opinion, is the efi system. Roll up windows, push down locks and 3 pedals! I had to change the ignition lock cylinder on it once and the hardest part of that job was finding the proper diameter of brass rod to release it. Thank you Ace Hardware hobby section!
I imagine you could still turn the key to the accessory position to release the cylinder. On this car it wouldn't turn at all.
@@fascistpedant758 I could spin it all the way around all day long but there's a lock pin that prevents it from coming out of the column. It's kinda like an old style headlight switch that you have to reach up underneath the dash and push the release button so that the knob and shaft will come out from the front so that you can remove the switch itself from behind.
@@MikeBrown-ii3pt I meant to point out that the lock pin isn't accessible if the key is in the lock position. That was the problem with the CRV.
You can also use a deep 1/4" drive thin walled 12 point socket, drive it onto the shear bolt and remove the bolt that way
I got the same CRV and will be saving this video to my favorites, just in case I needed in the future. The foil trick was pretty cool
Another Awesome, informative Video - Go Eric!!!!!
Sign of a true smack-O-expert . Can hit the chisel end without watching it .
Wow, I saw that big hammer and chisel and instantly thought of Andrew Camarota taking a chain saw to his dash to install a new radio. Cave man indeed! Nice little vid, thank you,, Mr. O. My closing line: "if YOU can do it, then I will get YOU to do it, else it'll be a mess of expletives, cracked plastic and misfit parts".
This is some next level work repair work.
I almost chose auto repair as my career. Looking back on this decision and watching you fight with vehicles all day, I'm glad I chose not to. It's bad enough working on my own car.
So, you chose brain surgeon instead?
And they are worse to work on with all the BS in the way today. More complex and without the assortment of tools almost rediculous.
Totally not worth it, unless you have your own shop
I ended up in IT Field Services for a Fortune 100 electric company. My motto for the department: Taking Computer Age skills to the end of Bronze Age roads at any time in any weather. Still a lot less frustrating than working on cars.
Did this with a Tercel but I used a punch and hammer! Your way is more logical..great video!
Nice work Eric O!
Nice work. You made it look easy.
Wow, this makes the job seem so much better on a GM van. No security bolts, nothing stopping you from taking it apart. I will say the Dormain kit is working well, and the worst of it was that it came with all of the wafers, and you have to put the cylinder together yourself, which isn't bad once you get it figured out. I think they want you to copy the wafers in the old cylinder, but those were long gone by the time I was told to fix the van. Yeah, it was fun getting everything fixed when there was nothing buy a shell left, so it involved destruction in some sections.
Tinfoil trick by Eric O. I thought I was on LockPickingLawyer's Channel here :D
Great work as always.
No way Eric. You’re the best
Nice video. Thanks Eric
Keep the videos coming..........I need SMA videos.😀
Thanks for the instruction (even if it wasn't meant to be instruction). I had the same no turn key issue on my Honda Element, and replaced the ignition myself. 💯
Call the Lock Picking Lawyer! Nice work
Great job as always
Thanks for the video, just got me out of trouble in England, first time I have had any issue with the ignition at all. Got the lock/barrel all off and Honda wanted £800 for a new unit so instead I used the key in the lock off the column and a screwdriver in the back section to get me home whilst I wait for a 2nd hand complete lock system from eBay.😅
Retired 40 year dealer tech here. The tumblers for these sidewinder keys have only tiny spurs on them to ride on the cut surface of the key. As the tip of the key gets excessively worn from not being inserted straight the tumbler spur gets worn off until it no longer is lifted by the key and so you can't turn the cylinder. If you get a new (aftermarket I think) T5 key blank cut to the original key code, it will likely catch the tumbler and allow you to turn the key and then remove the lock cylinder without removing the entire lock assembly. The T5 blank has a re-writable chip and so it can be cloned to the original transponder key and the car will accept it without any programming and you will still have a key that will work in all the locks. At that point you can disassemble the cylinder and replace any worn tumblers (from a kit) and lube it well with the super-light grease made for that purpose. Same goes for replacing the whole cylinder, just recode it to the original cut. Since it was almost always the first tumbler that was damaged, I always just left that one out so that the key was more aligned in the slot before it reached the second tumbler. If the tip of your sidewinder key is getting rounded off on the cuts, consider getting it replaced with a T5 before you get to that stage and always insert the key in line with the slot. T5s are also great for adding extra keys without programming, the car just thinks they are all the same key.
Came in clutch😉👍🏻💪
Thanks Eric for the great video mate I enjoyed it, very interesting and informative my friend.
Keep Safe Keep Strong 🦘🦘🦘🦘🚗🚗
dude is a beast. a master. a lord. a man among children.
lreaning more on each video you do. Thanks for showing how to fix stuff. Jay
Good video. I didn't know how all of that went together.
Cool technique/Great advice!!!!!
I own an identical crv Thanks for the education
Better explaining than the other videos
Great video! Thank you!
Yes sir good job. I've used this method many times. 👊👍
I’ve used chisels on every single one of those so you did it perfectly :) Been working on and specializing in Hondas for 13 yrs. Always more than one way to skin a cat😏
Wonder if you can use the snap on socket extractor. The one that goes to a screw driver i used it to get out torx bit on air bag bolt. Honda has TSB on it to for SRS.
Eric, I'm not sure how tall you are, but you put me in the mind of Doc... The dwarf. There has not been an issue which you have failed to explain in terns we all can understand. Thanks!!!
Thanks, Eric, I've never seen that done.
Very cool. Learned about clutch.