How STRONG is Asta?
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Actually Tabata sensei supervised the film, and it is actually canon to the Black Clover story-line! Apparently he wanted to include this in the manga, but decided against it but it later was used as the film we have today. Canonically, it takes place between Vol.23 and Vol.24 - the end of the Elf Saga, and the beginning of the Spade Saga, during the 6 months time skip. iirc those who went to see the first screenings of the film got Vol.23.5 which contains the backstories for the 4 previous WKs.
This is a really solid 'well ackchually'
Yup, it even shows things like Vanessa making Asta's new and improved headband, and newer techniques like Death Thrust aren't used at all in the film, and there's nothing at all really that contradicts things in the anime or manga anyway. I really like how they handled it, putting it in the time skip before asta first goes to the spade kingdom, during that period where he was still getting buff. One of my favorite things was that Conrad's appearance in the movie was actually written in well and again, poses no contradictions in the story that I'm aware of at least.
The film was still honestly amazing and a part of my plan.
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@@el_th0r546It does fit but with some minor plot holes. As Asta has his demon arm which happens in the Dante fight meaning both William and Yami should be captured. But it actually fits rather well besides that minor thing. And also that Nacht is shown in the film giving power. So there are some contradictions but very minor.
The movie is canon. The author literally stated it took place in the timeskip that we didn't see. It even has its own volume (23.5) and its own novel
This is what happens when you make videos of trending topics for clicks
yes but no. Yūki Tabata literally said: "its a "why didnt you do this in the manga" story.
So in a way its non-canon to the manga while being canon to the universe. So tbh at most i'd say its more along the lines of semi-canon. its possible that both the events might be true but the story may be exaggerated for the movies sake.
Tabata was giving out 23.5 volume at the theaters in Japan as a token of appreciation to his fan base. He stated that the plot is meant to fit into the manga canon. Not that it is canon, he wanted continuity to hold true but its still a anime original. A google search of his comments on it is all it takes to inform yourself.
@@GB-kw8vgI absolutely agree with you . I 💘 also love the way nobody's 👄 talking about the new enemies and God's - Deities - and - New countries were just hinted slash introduced . Also not to mention the 🃏 👑 🃏 magic : shadow KINGDOM was just introduced.
@@BlastwaveDKingso it’s still canon. said a whole lotta nun lol
I usually hate power scalers because they either dramatically overly exaggerate someone's powers and abilities or they lack the understanding of the different tiers for it. You are honest, give proof and have shown several times you have a solid understanding of the tiers you place people in. Keep up the good work!!!
For black clover it's really easy to give high ranking mostly because of Dorothy lol. She is just casually summoning moons and her dream dimension which was stated to be infinite by Luck and somewhat reafirmed by elf possesing Dorothy at the time, got destroyed by Yami's dimension slash. Also Salamander's feats from the databook make it easier to give very high scaling.
@@rapalyfor example yami slashed an infinite universe? XD
@@midnighthunter5677 yes, dimension slash cuts dimensions. It's made to destroy pocket dimensions.
@@rapaly Well it's even easier with the early speed feats and statement, like, in early chapters, there was already some characters able to go light speed, which is an incredible feat, especially compared to the new gen manga
And whats funny is that he hates doing power scaling
Correction, arcane stage doesn't mean you're the strongest tier. Saint stage is the highest tier. Arcane stage means you have unique magic. Anti magic, Vanessa's cat, Grey's ability to change matter. Im sure we call can agree that Grey isn't in the strongest tier but she's arcane
Until Secre seals u away for like a 100 years... you'll never underestimate arcane stage again
@@bignoob2726 nice straw man
Also saint stage requires a spirit, that's basically two ppl so it technically can't be the highest because there are so few spirits...also ASTA is an arcane stage
@@bignoob2726good but does yami has spirit?
@@hopelfreyamikaelson9348He IS the spirit :D
One minor correction Tabata confirmed that the mocie was canon
Think Julius N slash Lucuis - Zogratis also another SLASH a trick up his horns that will destroy = make everybody retreat or flee to another continental or continents area's.
When Asta said "My Magic is not giving up" that's when I knew Black clover is my favorite anime!!!
Another fun fact about anti magic, it seems to have the ability to memic the properties of magic. Many of asta's abilities, are all simply anti sword magic, or an anti magic version of Licht's spells. Particularly everything Asta does with the demon dweller sword, is something Licht can do with it.
Well...for the dweller sword, it's mostly because it's how the sword "works" it can share the power or abilities of its holder with the ones who are bounded with him, explaining why Licht could use the reincarned elf's magic, and why Asta was able to share the anti-magic properties
But you're right, Asta tried mimicking others magic with his own magic (well at least when he could, like the spirit of zephyr and Licht's sword magic inspired him the Black Divider, or the mana skin becoming an anti-mana skin), because even if it negates magic, it seems to work mostly like a regular magic, a magic that negate other magic, and requires physical strength and not mana
The movie's time frame is between vol 23 and 24 after training at the heart kingdom and before the spade war
Can’t Forget that The Demon Dweller Also Has The ability know as “Faint Release” Which Erases The Properties of Magic in The Near By Areas as Well As Reverse Any Magic Done Upon Him Like Poision And Etc
Destroyer actually
Lets not forget that Asta dodged Gauche's attack while sleeping, and it was also pre-black form asta at that time, thats crazy speed
Also pre conscious Ki senses
I totally forgot!
Well don't need that, since in my opinion, I don't think we can use it as a feat, like, it was more of a gag, and besides, a bit later, he was able to fight at light speed (it was stated by both Yami and Gauche)
Lucifero was only at 50% of his maximum power when he manifested his proper body so if he 100% manifested nothing would've been able to beat him it's part of the reason Lucius is insanely powerful bcause he stole the magical power of 100% Lucifero along with all the other power he gained from the other high level demons he absorbed lol
Lucius is not a demon..
Lucius isnt a devil but a devil host of Astaroth as stated in chapter 331
Asta actually would've been on par with Lucifero at 100%.
@@valkeitos yeah sure even though he was getting his ass beat for the majority of the fight with 50% Lucifero lol
@JesseNightingale once he upgraded as stated by nic he dogwalked the proper body lucifero. Honestly I think it'd be close but it's theoretical as it didn't happen obviously
@@susp3ctOG yeah at 50% of his true power pretty sure no one could've beaten Lucifero at that time if he had 100% of his power without a Black Zetsu punching a hole through Madara type of situation lol
This may be a stretch but you could probably calc asta's attack power higher since the black clover world, due to being full of mana, has evolved to be somewhat magic resistant.
So the power to destroy a continent in their world using mana, may be significantly higher than it would be in our manaless world.
Same case in series like Solo leveling and Bleach environmental damage is dependent if the world have natural resistance in which a captain class shinigami is threat to the world of the living but in in the soul society and Heuco Mundo which is made up reishi they never have worry too much about collateral damages and in Solo leveling the Rulers need to slowly imbue the human world with mana so it can survive the upcoming battle otherwise the planet would be completely destroyed. I just noticed in at of cross battles they never take this into consideration.
To be honest said arguments could be made for a lot of verses that uses a common energy for their overall abilities the world might have developed a sort of resistance to the energy overtime cus its not always falling apart when said kind of power is being used
That's my favorite type of scailing
Don't forget that Asta was doubting himself after facing Lucius.That's why Ichika was able to defeat Asta otherwise no way.
No ichika was that strong he did surpass her in a very short time tho
@@flamedomian6889 No. There is no way.
@@biswajithembrom3704 She's that srtrong, I don't know if she could defeat that easily Asta under normal circumstances, but she would at least give him a good fight
@@phantom9831 good fight yes. But win no.
The movie is canon. It takes place right before the Spade Invasion. There's also a novelization called 23.5 by Tabata.
These videos have become my morning tunes on the way to work and I just gotta show some appreciation for nick and the hard work he puts into the videos
11:59 Actually lucífero would have gone on to destroy the world but Asta and everyone else only got to win because Lucius kept rewinding time for them to win. Lucífero actually killed them multiple times. So Lucífero is actually planet level or large continental level and that was only 50% of his power too
Where was that stated?
@@GAROU-THEGODSLAYER The author confirmed that Lucífero would have destroyed the world if he won. And if you read the background of the manga there’s a clock that doesn’t change time through the entire fight. And even Licifero talks about how he doesn’t care how many times they come back he will keep taking them down. And we know that ultimately Lucius wanted Lucifero’s heart to complete his master plan. And even the devil that’s spectating the whole time only shows up to collect his heart
@@GAROU-THEGODSLAYER no where, it's just a fan theory the clock stuff has no confirmation. There are however a bunch of statements that lucifero was planetary, people commenting that he would end the world and such.
@@randomgamer625 please don't use the clock theory, it's never been confirmed and doesn't make sense with newer chapters.
@@lord_destros2188 it does though? The time literally was not working properly?
Spot on with the scaling good sir. I've been enjoyin the breakdowns of just how fast the black clover universe is.
One thing u missed is that during his first battle with Lucius, it was stated that no magic can touch him (Including time magic) and only physical attacks can beat him.
Love all your vids and listen to you and Danny’s podcast all the time, huge fan(:
I'm always excited to see a new Black Clover video. Hope you do one on Yuno and Noelle pretty soon too.
MY FIRST TIME WATCHING A BLACK CLOVER VIDEO OF YOURSS! (IVE ONLY WATCHED YOUR NARUTO ONES SO FAR)
Bro this is the information that I needed ❤❤😊 🙏
Didn't know the movie came out already lmao gotta watch it. Gonna finish this first though. Awesome content! Thank you!
We need more black clover content from you and in general Ik the manga is ramping up but we need some animation the movie made me hungry for more 😮💨
Bro I love your black clover content
Great video 👏 Asta clears most of the new gen anime/manga
awsome video
Literally get so excited when Nick makes another black clover video!
To be honest, this is the best scaling of astas powers.
Its high enought to make the story and what they show make sense, and low enough that i don't lose brain cells when watching the series.
Thanks for the video, it really made my day (or night in my case)
It's not the best bro
Nick you are so good at explaining series that you should explain a show like neon genesis evangelion or even the fate series
Would love to see a video covering the abilities of the entire light triad I I love that black clover hasn’t yet run into Naruto‘s problem of making the female protagonist not relative to the male MC
#NCHamner
That intro killed me. I don’t know why it’s so funny. “How hard they punchie?”
Bro your intro to the video was so loooong damnnn !!! Next time please get to the main topic quick quick . Thanks for the nice videos 🙏🏿🙏🏿✅✅
Long?
Really cool video, i would like to say though that you can get asta much higher because captains like Dorothy can create moons in her dream universe (stated what she makes is the real thing) but even disregarding that .. the salamander from the witch forest arc was stated to be able to dry a ocean with a swipe of it's claws in a author approved guidebook. Which was calculated between multi continental or small moon level!
There's alot more higher scaling for black clover but to keep things safe rn I'd say asta is at large planetary levels of power.
Can’t wait to see these greats come to the anime!!! Could you do a video on hire strong Mereoleona Vermillion is? As I’ve seen her in this latest movie this woman’s power level is OVER 9,000 😆!!!
Hi I love ur vids
I could see Asta having his grimoire like a holster on his hip with the hilts of all four (or more I guess if he gets more) so he can quickly swap swords and their abilities during combat
Literally in the movie and the manga
asta already is continental when he first transformed into his black form in the witch arc stated in the hand book improved by tabata that the salamander was capable to vaporize an entire ocean and asta defeated the salamander being stated to be the strongest it has been to that point.
People don’t know how to scale and don’t understand multiplyers, asta is large planetary in the manga
@@jacobbretzer2076 yeah there is multiple ways to get Asta to planetary either by Dorothy’s glamour world feat or by luciferos statements
@@jacobbretzer2076 no one in BC is planetary level
@@apocrypha5062 lamo Dorothy creating infinite sized dimension🗿 this feat is immeasurable to just planetary 😂😂
@@apocrypha5062This man...
Can you please do rating all the fire force companies? I think it would be great to see fire force get some more love since I’m rewatching it right now and it’s reminding me how GOSH DARN good it is. Please
Love the video and keep up the great work nick
Asta is so op that in chapter 360 of the manga it’s revealed he changed the whole ass timeline
Slight correction (I’m only four minutes in, but whatever): Arcane Stage mages aren’t necessarily above the Zero Stage. Possessing Arcane magic just means you are able to effectively hurt devils, and are more so a category unto themselves, disconnected from the regular system. At least that’s how I remember it.
You're right, there's a difference, Arcane isn't about power, but uniqueness, because it's impossible to scale these type of power accurately otherwise, for example, Gret's magic isn't above 0 stage, but because of its uniqueness, it was stated to be arcane
I don't know where you saw the fact that the movie was non Canon. All the information I've seen says that it is Canon, tabata said this was a story he wanted to do in the manga but couldn't and there is a light novel adaptation for this movie, and all the light novels are canon
You should do video on Black Clover inspirations.
Hi Nick, how about doing a video about Yuno and his star magic 👌cause it's hella confusing 😓
Nick can you make a video on ranking the black bulls or have you already done it?
Before I heard you say you were short my head cannon had you at like 6’2 😂😂
Talk about dark triad next.
Request to name future videos "How hard X punchy ranked and explained" 😀
Technically Lucius has 6 different magical attributes, seven if you wanna include beelzebub’s
Soul, time, Gravity, (Blood, Body, Bone,) which he took from his siblings to make his army.
Also I don't think he's a devil, he's the original inhabitor of that body. If anything Julius might be the real devil, (astaroth) that Lucia's brainwashed using soul magic to act as another persona.
Or they could just be 2 souls inhabiting 1 body like William and Patri. They could both just be humans in 1 body
@@ArlecchinoAKAFather highly doubt it since patri and williams case was entirely different. Patri was an elf while william was a human. Lucius most likely created another soul in his own body using his magic and used astaroth to inhabit that soul
@@deanxakira you say with no evidence
@@deanxakira nope, you did not read the manga
the ew look on my face
You should a video like this about Deku, & Tanjiro
the bluth frozen banana playlist crazy
A top 10 Jojo stands would've a dope vidja to make. That series is actually slept on.
Broku72 is somewhere rolling around on his bed, screaming in agony. The downplay of Asta is crazy.
SPOILERS
If we assume that Demon Licht was going to wipe humanity with his Energy, and Demon Licht understood that he gets outscaled by Zagred, then Zagred is continental to Multi-continental, as he'd need to wipe all life on the planet solo. Asta kills him before he gets Berserker Asta. That means that Black Asta should insta-kill Lucifero, despite Lucifero being the strongest Devil in Hell. It makes more sense that Lucifero is Planetary, since his presence transcended all power in the verse until that point. He was stomping amped Captains, yet still lose to TDU Asta.
Between Salamander's Ocean Vaporisation feat being calced at 80% of moon level (so high-end multi-cont) and the energy of Demon Licht *walking* being put in multi-continental ranges as well (combined with the fact that Reve was able to make a fake Dorothy who was casually creating moon-sized objects alongside an actual moon), you can pretty easily get Zagred to planetary. And that's if you don't use Reve creating and infinite sized realm for High-Uni part 1 BC (which gets even more solid in part 2 and with the movie).
Hey I want to ask can you do a power Ranking on claymore anime
unite form is very different from his normal black form before forming a contract with liebe he could only get the anti magic from his swords then channel it through his body
a more accurate representation is his form he used, to fight dante where his arm itself produces anti magic
unite form is that but his whole body (unite as in he and liebe fuse)
Indeed.
Honestly…i knew it all along at the spoiler lol my heart
Day 1 of asking Nick to...
Do a tournament. Pick 32 really strong characters in anime (no Saitama, Goku, Anos, etc. for obvious reasons) and do a sort of tournament maybe in your shorts, and do polls on who we think will won each round... You can do shorts announcing the competitors, who they are, which anime they're from, maybe their most significant feats, etc., then do polls so we can vote, and then do a long-form video discussing the results and your thoughts on the entire thing. And you need to be specific in the form and everything the character is using. Shouldnt be a Sage mode Naruto pic and then people start arguing "BuT bArYoN mOdE dIfFs..." Even though Baryon mode is one of Naruto's weaker forms overall.
This can be a strength tournament. If this goes well, you can dona popularity tourney and include the ones I said you shouldn't before like Rimuru, Anos, Saitama, etc.
Bro the movie is canon 😂
Day 7 of asking for what you would do if you where naeuto( like hokage vid but it you not us
Please make a video on remoru please please please please
If you believe in yourself and with a tiny pinch of magic, all your dreams can come true
My dreams can be achieved simply with money. I can hire a hitman, on myself
@@Perhaps-. bro 💀
@@Perhaps-.mood
So Asta actually learn swordsmanship from ex-commander of the diamond kingdom. This happens in a fan novel competition that Tabata made canon.
Edit: the events happens, I believe, after lict first appears and before underwater city arc.
Could you talk about Kingdom?
The movie while great there is a huge inconseption that being people thinkining the movie is non-canon but the movie is *Indeed* canon as it takes place 3 months into the 6 month time-skip
just wanted to add the moons in Dorthey's glamour world and the fact that everything in glamour world is the real thing
please make a video about how strong is julius novachrono or the vice captain of the black bullss huhu ;)
The movie is Cannon. It takes places right after the heart kingdom training days before spade attack.
Pls do more black clover content
No matter what color effects forms or dyed hair don't matter he will endlessly come at the boss "surpassing his limits till he wins like every character wins by getting up a million times till the boss gets tired and gives up
The defeat of a ancient demon size of the clover kingdom, one hit K.O
Well… that time to skip foward the spoiler was rather fast, no, homie?
Nick is holding back even. He says Naliths attack was Country level while being calced at Low Moon level. Plus Lucifero had 3 planetary statements saying ge could destroy rhe world/planet. This same Lucifero gets his full power absorbed by base lucius and Asta in Partial DU pre-training is relative to that. Asta is cracked😅
That’s horrendous scaling considering Salamander in the Witch arc has Multi continental scaling
@@gucciusmaximusi5099 Nevermind Base Dante's low-end Solar System lightbend feat. Or the fact that Dorothy can create an infinite sized realm, Yami can destroy said infinite sized realm, Edward can reduce the temperature of his surroundings to Absolute 0 (which requires infinite work), Princia is stated to be able to create an infinite number of soldiers, and Dante creates a singularity. Or the fact that Hell is confirmed to be a separate timespace from the material world (arguably, each layer of hell is a separate timespace considering the diagram we see of Hell in Yami vs Dante is taken directly from an interpretation of Hell in irl Jewish Demonology that has each layer of Hell as a separate timespace), with Lucifero fusing with the Qliphoth tree that connects each layer of hell to the material world, making the Qliphoth (and the Lucifero that fused with it) 4D (Uni+ in Lucifero's case bc it doesn't add an actual extra spacial dimension to his body but still).
Yeah, BC scaling is wild XD
@@thedeadmemetrain8757 show me that hell statement it’s kinda nutty. Also the wizard kings are cracked as they no diffed Nozel who scaled to 1/3 Megicula who scales to Devil Union Asta
@@thedeadmemetrain8757 got the calcs tho bro I’d love to fodderized some folk
@@gucciusmaximusi5099 I do have the base Dante calc, but it's a google doc link and putting a link in the comments of a yt video can be kinda dodgey, innit? It's based on the arc that light is bent by the sun and how much force is exerted by the sun's gravity, and then calcing the difference between the Sun's arc and the arc that Dante causes each of Gauche's beams to bend, and then multiplying the force of the sun's gravity bending light by the difference between it and Dante's angle to get the AP. Tho if you want an easier scale to explain (and one that doesn't require me to send any links and potentially get banned from any comments sections):
Dorothy is able to create Glamour World, which is an infinite sized realm (Luck states that it's infinite, Magna replies that "that's impossible" to which Reve responds that "In Glamour World, the impossible is possible"). Later in the Anime Cannon Captains Battle (which is still cannon to the Manga btw) Yami is able to destroy Glamour World with Dimension Slash Equinox, meaning both he and Dorothy are High Universal (sidenote, to destroy an infinite realm, DSE would have had to move at infinite speed, and Dorothy dodges it, so she and anyone who scales to her would have infinite speed). We also see that Edward can reduce his surroundings to Absolute 0 (which requires infinite work), Princia is stated to be able to make infinite soldiers in the Light Novel for the movie (Volume 23.5), and Dante creates a Black Hole (which requires infinite pressure). Dante also has 3 seperate Infinite Mana statements, so... Yeah: High Uni Black Clover XD And that's not even getting into Zennon creating Hyperspace or Lucifero fusing with the Qliphoth (a 4D construct), OR the Paladins moving in Yuno's Neverland (that stops time) and Conrad moving in an Astaroth-amped Julius' time-orbs which stop time inside AND nullify power (aka Inaccessible speed).
BC scaling gets CRAZY lmao.
Finally more black clover
If there is someone I can truly believe in making pretty accurate vs videos… is The weeb comander! I hope he does a series.
It's not accurate at all lol
Please make a One Piece timeline!!!
Nro steong fr but how about a how strong is Ichigo next I would wanna see that
It should be noted that being able to fight someone who can stop time without being able to yourself would put you at inaccessible speed which is directly above infinite speed
You power scalers and your made up concepts. Go take a shower
False Asta had a hack that bypass time manipulation , same for yuno which is why yuno is still alive once that neverland comes down he's done
@@chosen1337 ok, but nothing I said was wrong
@@chosen1337 and in addition, spells in black clover scale off of mana, so something like yami’s dimension slash which has infinite attack potency because of hacks would be many times stronger with greater amounts of mana
The inaccessible speed is
Correction: The movie is canon and can be used to scale Asta
Can you make a what if
on what if you were in Naruto?
8:38 not really the first he stumbled upon, but the first with who he talked, the other humans throwing rocks to him and being afraid, while he just walked, thinking he'd finally die
8:43 Not only the magical, but the lifeforce of those who had mana
11:18 Let's not forget that Lucifero was only at 50% since the Qlipoth tree wasn't entirely open
14:30 Well if you put it that way, Asta also receive the demon slasher from Licht
To be honest, apart from some misunderstanding (for example about how works the arcane stage) you still had really good calculations, and at this point, I think that if we only count the new gen manga, Asta can undubitably beat the other new gen MC, since, with all the stats you calculated, we can also add his strength, that scales at least as high as the spell he can reflect, since, in black clover, even if you negate magic with anti-magic, you don't negate the force of the magic, meaning that if you're not strong enough, even with anti-magic, you get blown by the force of the spell
that last part is what people seem to forget. Lilith and Nammah alone scaled about 100% Dante. Their fusion was stated by Nacht to be more than 1+1 one. Fused Devil used freezing sun (the spell looks to be 2x the size of the entire spade capital) and reflected it.
You're saying to give the kid with multi-continental attack power, massively FTL+ speed and multi-continental durability a gun. I'm sure that's a bad idea, even for his allies. We trust the kid but I'm still worried about what would happen if he missed.
btw just saying massively FTL+ is just MFTL+ and yeah thats not a good idea to give a kid a gun, he is already strong enough.
You actually missed alot
Because asta is well above planetary by a long range
Cuz even in the beginning of the series he tanked a blast from the salamander that is said that it can vaporize the ocean
He already scales multicontinental from the start
Please do what if naruto left the village on nchammer
I’m excited to find out how hard they punchy but can we figure out how they spelly as you mentioned a second grimoire
That is the last time that I do not listen to a spoiler warning.
I'ma go catch up to manga before I finish this vid and then I'll find out, how hard he punche
One thing i dont get, if asta has anti magic how does he scale to the devils attacks? His power is being able to negate magic attacks does he beed to physically oer them too
Now do a vid scaling asta vs yuno. Who has the best shot at wizard king right now?
Hmm interesting
Clearly Yuno does asta hasn't done anything
Wish the movie was canon cause lord knows when the show will start again
so sweaty
Everytime I thought you were done saying 'how hard he punchy'...
it is canon because there is a light novel for it that came out alongside the movie. and tabata was the one who came up with the original idea for the movie
"they are going to give asta a gun at this point" so you mean asta is gonna have a blasta
asta be like " this is my anti magic gun it can stop magic and hearts"
The movie is indeed cannon
Asta sensing gokus ki would be funny
You missed asta’s mana zone which he’s perfecting. That one ability will literally hard counter everything
Asta can't use mana zone as he is manaless
@@entertainmentworld933he has anti-mana zone, similar to regular mana zone which flows anti magic in the air around him negating magic surrounding him
Asta, use your Antimagic-Antiaircraft and win this fight for us!
Do a short about Different stages of asta Vs the golden dawn. Could he solo the entire golden dawn minus Yuno?