To all the people who quoted me as saying "only hellmann's is bland enough for me". You folks are seriously confused about what "bland" means. Hellmann's is not bland. Bland is food that's lacking salt or acidity. Those are tastes. Hellmann's is not lacking anything in the taste department. It's lacking in the aroma department, which is a good thing. This way I can give it my own aromas. Fresh garlic will smell so much better than the garlic powder that Kraft puts in. Fresh lemon juice will smell so much better than pasteurized lemon juice. I realize that most people use the terms like "flavor" and "blandness" to refer to both the smell and the taste, but if you don't untangle smell from taste, you'll never have any control in the kitchen.
Smell and taste, like many traits, exist across a continuum. Some are sensitive, some can train to a degree, some are insensitive. Sometimes one wants a single note, and the rest "blanded" out, diminished. I have a blunted sense of smell , but am very tuned to texture, for an example, and can tell only bigger differences in taste. Some of this is in sensing differences, some of it is in processing the sensation.
Yeah, hellmanns is superior because of its neutrality. Makes it an excellent ingredient and base. Other mayo brands are for people who think mustard is too spicy lol
My roommate thought I was crazy for insisting on the jar instead of the squeeze bottle, but there really is a noticable difference in taste and texture. Glad to see I'm not the only one who noticed it!
I would guess it is a marketing ploy. Allow me to theorize: 1. Finance dept. says Resesrch & Development dept. has finished preliminary testing on a new, cheaper formula that over 50% of tasters either preferred over original or could not tell the difference. 2. Marketing dept. sees this and says, let's see if we can improve that number. They ask Design dept. for a new modern sensibility bottle and get it. They go back to R & D and say, try the test again with this new bottle. The number improves to over 60% of tasters. 3. Finance dept. says, the new recipe is cheaper, the new container is cheaper, and the new container seems to make the new recipe seem more acceptable. Therefore, the board will agree to put the new combination on shelves next to the original. If sales approach a certain percentage of original, we will begin phasing out original until it becomes a niche product. If there is backlash, a bunch of you get fired.
@@hyperbaroqueIt comes down to different levels of processed food. The bottled one being more processed, binding agents etc. which makes it denser and more suitable to squeeze out of a bottle. Why, you might ask? Its denser and can be sold in a plastic container (more weight for less space). Another reason is the smoothness of it, the texture is different, which is awful for anyone used to the other one. I can place a pretty sure bet that the bottled one is making them more money by a sizeable margin, much because of its poorer quality. Tl;dr the marketing department has very little to do with this, its on the r&d team making and testing the products
I had a similar experience with Miracle Whip. Last time I tried it, it was from a squeeze bottle, and it just tasted off. So much so that I figured they changed the recipe and I haven't had it for years. Never thought that it might be a squeeze bottle issue. I might have to pick up a small jar and try it again. Or maybe I'll try one of these recipes instead.
Squeezable and spreadable mayos require different rheological properties, and this probably accounts for the differences. Squeezing requires incompressibility and flow, while spreading requires good shear characteristics. This can also be seen in spreadable cream cheeses, whipping in air makes them shear and spread more nicely, but one can imagine squeezing a bottle of it would only compress the air.
Yeah, I'm not going to test further with my own jar of Hellmans because I don't want mayo all over my counter but just looking at how it acts when squeezing and jiggling the plastic jar leads me to believe it would be a nightmare to get out of a squeeze bottle.
The only real difference is the storage container. The jar is usually made of glass, while the squeeze bottle is made of soft plastic. If you store something in a glass jar, it will have a shelf life of a year, but if you store the same thing in a plastic bottle it will have a shelf life of 6 weeks.
I suspect the jar version is more whipped partly to make it look like a larger volume, and I don't personally find to make spreading it easier when the whipped product is stored in a jar for extended periods of time. A product might arguably be easier to get out of a jar in larger volumes when it tends to clump, while the same property would be a nightmare for a squeeze bottle. Freshly whipped and otherwise non-whipped products are a completely different ball game worth an entire discussion on their own.
I noticed the taste difference when i tried the bottle version a few months ago, but in my country ( Romania) the ingredient list is different, might be a EU regulations issue because I know our laws are stricter when it comes to labeling. I've been buying the jar version for years and decided to try the bottle for the extra egg content but found it less enjoyable to use in part due to the container. Ingredients for the bottle version: Rapeseed vegetable oil (65%), water, alcohol vinegar, egg yolk (4.1%), sugar, MUSTARD (water, MUSTARD seeds, alcohol vinegar, salt, spices, flavors), salt, modified starch from corn, flavoring, thickener (xanthan gum), antioxidant (EDTA), coloring (carotenes). Water and volatile substances 23%. ingredients for the jar version: Rapeseed oil (76%), water (9.6%), alcohol vinegar (5.6%), sugar, pasteurized egg yolk (3%), MUSTARD (water, MUSTARD seeds, alcohol vinegar, salt , flavors, spices), salt, flavors, antioxidant (calcium disodium EDTA), coloring (carotenes).
I'd love to SEE the list of ingredients on the Romanian versions. If in the US they are not required to list them, maybe the difference will show up in Hellman's jar vs bottle ingredients lists in a country where they must. "Natural flavours"! Pfeh!
@@Mack_Dingocottonseed oil and palm oils are the two you really want to avoid. Really, anything hydrogenated should be avoided if you are able to. Soybean, grapeseed, and sunflower oil won't kill you but you should at least try to get them expeller pressed if possible. Sesame and peanut oils are fine for the most part. Coconut oil is also fine, but recent studies seem to associate it with adverse health effects so I'd use discretion with that. Your best bets are going to be olive oil, flax oil, rendered animal fats, and butter for cooking; peanut oil for deep frying.
There is a third Hellman's version. For the commercial trade, it identifies itself as "EXTRA HEAVY". It has more egg yolks in it's ingredients. This makes it a better choice for making salad dressings as its greater fat content will help to keep mixtures from coming out of solution. I have only seen this available in one gallon or five gallon jars.
@@fatphoca500976% fat 20% protein 4% carbs Whites are almost entirely water at 88%, 11% protein, .17% fat, .73% carbs No wonder egg whites are bland garbage by themselves😆
Meh, I bought a big jar of Hellman’s mayo and a pack of disposable piping bags. I then refill my squeeze bottle with the good stuff. I have not found it to be an issue squeezing it out. It acted the same as far as I could tell.
@shawnrhode I've been doing the same for about a year now, washing out the container then using a sandwich baggie with the corner cut off to refill it with the jar mayo 😅 the jar mayo taste through the squeeze container is very different than the og squeeze mayo, but not different from its jar form, ie. putting it in the bottle doesn't change the jar mayo taste at all. if you pat the bottle down when you encounter air bubbles, it squeezes out fine, though it's not quite as smooth,, a bit chunky
Agreed! I stopped using the squeeze bottle and went back to the jar because it’s so gross. Also I found some squeeze bottles are more runny no matter how much I shook the bottle.
Who knew I would be charmed by a Mayo Video?! I could watch Helen describe mold on cheese and still be delighted. I'm definitely buying Hellman's Mayo in a jar going forward.
@seungo5523 I think I do understand what she is saying becoz when I first eat KFC in UK it was disgusting I couldn't understand why it's so different from the one in South Africa !but now I understand that they manufactures have to cater for their audience !in South Africa KFC chicken and chips is dripping with fat which all Africans love @now I was so disgusted by UK KFC but I do understand different countries have their own rules at how much salt,sugar and fat they allow companies to do
Omg, I thought I was crazy to think that they were different while the label had the same ingredients... I really thought I was being picky. Thank you for confirming my crazy idea! 😂
@@RayF6126 I keep my Hellmans in the cupboard through the summer (long story) and never get a hint of rancidity, so it must be quite resistant. PET isn't a great oxygen barrier either.
I KNEW IT!!! I was making my usual turkey sandwich but my DIL had picked up Kraft Mayo (squeeze bottle) instead of our normal jar. I told my son, “do you think the turkey sandwiches taste the same as usual?” He said he was very hungry so he didn’t notice any difference. But I NOTICED a BIG difference. So much so that I became obsessed with this search that led me to your video. The taste was not horrible but not satisfying and delicious as usual. I also noticed actual oil on my napkin when wiping my fingers. Never again will I buy squeeze bottle it’s just a waste of money if you are preparing a tried and true turkey sandwich. Thank you for uploading your testing of the items. I’m going to tell my son, I KNEW IT!! 😅
Wow! This explains why my spinach dip came out completely different the one time I used Hellman's squeeze bottle. I noticed it right away, as I was making it it seemed more dense, but it was already in the bowl with sour cream so I had no idea how to adjust so proceeded as usual, not expecting a real difference. Well it definitely made a difference I didn't much care for in my dip. Thanks for letting us know!
I'm one of the home made Mayo gang, I've been making my own since I was a first year commis in 1976/77. There are some items like bread, soup, sauces, pastries, most pastas and mayonnaise I can't see any point in buying. It takes less than 5 minutes to make mayonnaise, you can choose the oil and vinegar depending on what you want if for.
This was from a consumer rights website we have in the UK from years ago...reply from helmanns apparently Unfortunately the Real Mayonnaise in the Jars and the Squeezy Mayonnaise are 2 different products as the squeezy one has to have more fluid added to it to allow it to be squeezed out of the bottles. The Real Mayonnaise in the jars is spooned out and so far less fluid is added to it so it can be weighed in grams. The squeezy one is a fluid so is weighed in ml.
Regarding Hellman's mayonnaise, I agree with you. It is different. A couple of thoughts I've had. Hellman's (Best Foods) switched from glass to plastic containers a few years back. When mayonnaise is on sale, I buy several jars. Plastic is permeable, and I found that the resulting product is not shelf stable. It will become rancid. I complained to Hellman's about this, and their reply was that they had received many positive comments about the plastic jars. I now store my extra jars in the fridge. Squeeze bottles have a higher ratio of surface area to product, possibly resulting in faster spoilage.
As someone with Celiac's disease I am a huge fan of squeeze mayo. The squeeze bottle means I don't risk contamination through gluten containing crumbs introduced via my roommates redipping a knife into my mayo. Even a crumb of gluten containing bread will make me very sick, so every convenient way to mitigate that risk is valuable to me.
My entire family contaminates the mayo, and butter, and peanut butter, jelly/ jam/ preserves... it annoys me to no end, and other than finding a contraption to lock the lid so they can't into it or having multiple containers open at the same time... there is no way they'll ever stop. I'm not even worried about gluten, but they somehow manage to make the bread they contaminated it with grow mold. Which leaves me to suspect they leave it out longer than they should with some frequency like they do bottles of salad dressing and ketchup.
My favorite Mayo used to be Hellmann's. But then I tried Kewpie, a Japanese Mayo. My final Mayo ranking: 1) Kewpie. 2) Dijon Mayo 3) Hellmann's I love the combinations you created, thank you for sharing!
It makes sense that the stuff in the bottle that comes out the bottom that's upside down would be denser so that the mayonnaise would actually come out of the package and squeeze on to your sandwich I believe it's the same thing they're just trying to make the mayonnaise come out of the package without you having to get it out so it's basically just a heavier mayonnaise but yeah that means a different recipe
One thing I’ve noticed, the jar mayo has more air bubbles in it so I usually stir the bubbles out before weighing it which may account for the density difference. But have never tasted the squeeze bottle so I can’t speak to the flavor profiles. I will say there can be a different flavor profile between batches of jar mayo. One batch I bought at Costco a few months ago had an acrid unpalatable flavor profile in all 3 jars I bought. So manufacturing variance is definitely a thing.
Your investigation helps me understand, why I never stir a new jar of mayo. I like the gelatinous texture and try not to disturb it. Thanks for clarifying this bottle/jar difference, once and for all. I knew something was off.
If I have the opportunity I always buy Kewpie Japanese mayonnaise. Compared to American supermarket mayonnaises, it’s made with yolks instead of whole egg, rice vinegar, and MSG a for an umami boost. It’s richer and thicker and makes a great foundation for a variety of sauces.
@@adog3129 Walmart carries it in my city, Kewpie is 2x the price per oz as name brands like Kraft and Best Foods and actually cheaper than some of the fancier organic/avocado oil/whatever options. I’d also recommend checking out any Asian grocers in your area
Since the ingredient list doesn't include quantities, it's possible the difference is due to a change in ratio. It also makes sence for the company since different ratio will impact the texture: and as mayo from a squeeze bottle is applied differently, a different texture might be desirable.
Had same experience with Hellman's but it was with two different jar sizes. My store was out of every size except the small 12oz glass jar. Being a lifelong Hellman's user, thought it would be the same but...the small jar had a very different appearance, texture and a totally different taste.
I knew I was NOT CRAZY! I told everyone those two are NOT THE SAME and they LAUGHED! But the odd thing is, I like the squeeze bottle Hellmann's more than I like the Jar Hellmann's. I mix it with sriracha, soy sauce and spicy barbecue sauce together for a great dipping sauce on wings and fries but only use the squeeze bottle Hellmann's. It always tasted DIFFERENT when I used the Jar and I always use the EXACT same measuring cups and exact same levels for the EXACT SAME taste. But it just HIT DIFFERENT using the Jar, Thank you Helen Rennie for such a Wonderful Video.
Kewpie has different colors to indicate restaurant grade or consumer grade. Blue label is for restaurants and generally is more neutral tasting with less egg and is visibly less yellow, compared to the normal red label that is sold for consumers that is eggier and maybe more tangy
@@helenrennie Kewpie's big difference is that not only is it tangier and eggier, but it also has MSG in it to give it that umami boost. Now, I love MSG and use it in my cooking as an ingredient regularly, but that's an important difference that highly (IMO) affects the flavor, so some people may like the extra savoriness, some may not. I like Kewpie in certain things, but I don't like it as a day-to-day mayo because that flavor can be a bit extra sometimes. I love my Duke's.
@@pulykamell Yep. I love kewpie as a dip for fries, but would never use it as a mayo in recipes. Like Helen says, Hellmans is great for its lack of flavor you can add to.
@@candyjaywee I adore Japanese mayo but I do agree that it's not a discussion of subjective taste, but actual taste - how neutral it can be. Japanese mayo has double egg yolks, rice & (occasionally) apple cider vinegar, as well as MSG, so its profile is fundamentally flavorful and not neutral at all. It's fantastic on its own when compared to its store-bought contemporaries, but it's not supposed to be used as a substitute in recipes.
When I lived in Boston I used Cains all the time and loved it. When I moved to the Southeast there was no Cains and I started using Dukes - and loved it even more. Come to find out they both have apple cider vinegar. It just might be the secret sauce in the sauce.
Thank you! I thought I was imagining the difference. I have been buying the squeeze bottle because I don't use it as much as I used to so the jar is a waste. Now I use even less because it doesn't taste right. Going out to buy a jar tomorrow!
thank you so much, Miss Helen! You have demystified my mystery 😂. About two months ago Costco had a sale on the squeeze bottles version; and naturally a frugal housewife would reach for the package of two believing it to be the same. Of course I was not at all so scientific as yourself 😊, but yesterday I jumped on the sales wagon at Costco and purchased a jar even though there is another unopened squeeze bottle in my larder 😅. Reason? My potato salad and beetroot salad were “off” both in flavour and texture….bottle version tastes weak and lacks the punch …etc 😮 so now I am back to the ginormous fat jar in my fridge ! Live and learn 😊❤🎉
how this appears to be "so scientific" to you is astounding. your selling yourself short since you noticed the difference between the two, just like Helen. it would be great if she had investigated why or how the two versions differ, especially since she found the bottled version "repulsive". instead of explaining her negative reaction, this clickbaited into flavoring a completely different brand of mayo. since we'll never learn why from Helen, I would love to see a version of your salads made with each version of mayo while you have both. That would actually be scientific.
Very interesting! I have occasionally bought the squeeze bottle while camping but I can't say I noticed a difference. Of course, I was using it to mix with tuna fish so that is a pretty assertive flavor. Otherwise, I always buy the jar. I will certainly continue to do so! Thanks, Helen!
Thank you, Helen! I thought I was the only one that thought this about about other mayos. I won't eat other mayos unless I have a very specific use for them. Otherwise they just go to waste. Thanks again for the confirmation! I'm not going 'round the bend!!!
I'd always used Hellman's but recently my supermarket was out of the jars. I don't like squeeze containers (sounds like I dodged a bullet!) so I tried Duke's. It has a similarly neutral flavor profile but i find the texture is better, less "jiggly." Their light version is also quite respectable.
A couple of years ago I purchased a squeeze bottle of Hellman mayo, made a ham and cheese sandwich, took two bites out of it and threw it away. It wasn't past the expiration date, just tasted bad and different texture. I guess when you've had Hellman's all your life you really notice the difference!
I'm glad you did the science behind my thoughts about mayo. I'll never lick mayo from a spoon, but i won't buy hellmans in a squeezer anymore! Thank you and I'm pretty sure I love you for doing this 🤣
Similar experience with Daisy Sour Cream in a tub and in a squeeze bottle. Totally different textures and to my palate the squeeze bottle product is less flavorful; more of a smooth, white goo. I thought it was me!
Thank you for this. I drove myself nuts trying to replicate Texas Roadhouse's ranch dressing mix and ended up having a "taste test" of just about every commercially available mayonnaise. They are indeed all extremely different. To make matters worse, there are "heavy duty" mayonnaise options for Helman's and Duke's, which contains additional egg yolks, that are available for commercial kitchens in gallon-sized jars.
My wife started buying it in a bottle a while back and I swear our BLT sandwiches don’t taste the same. You just solved the crime! That’s IT! The darn bottle stuff really IS different and I never would have guessed. Thank you!
We noticed this with the Hellman's Light mayo as well! The squeeze bottle version is definitely not as good as the version in the jar. I figured that it was just an off batch, but the next time I went to the supermarket they only had the squeeze bottle, so I figured that I'd give it another try and it wasn't any better. From now on jars only. I'll bet that they change the formulation to make it more "squeezable".
Plastic is not neutral. I have had a number of experiences with food taste being effected by the plastic container. If given a choice I will buy the glass container. It probably cost more but it is cost effective if can eat it but have to bin the plastic because you cannot stomach the plastic taste.
Kraft also has lite versions with a blend of either avocado oil or olive oil with canola and soybean oil. You can get the jar version (plastic) instead of the squeeze bottle. They have .5g sat fat per serving instead of 1.5g or more.
OMG! I’m so glad I hit on your vid. Ever since covid and having bouts of losing taste periodically, I’ve been saying certain foods just don’t taste as good. Hellman’s mayo was one of those. I had purchased the squeeze bottle rather than my usual regular jar. Aside from the fact that the squeeze bottle is very poorly designed making it difficult to get the product out, I just wasn’t enjoying the taste as it wasn’t the same to me but I never thought the style of the bottle meant a different product. Now I get it! Thank you for this invaluable information! This weekend I’m going to make homemade mayo. Take care and I’ve now subscribed to your channel!
@helenrennie, @1:41. Since Mayo is mostly oil-based, and is emulsified, I would think the best way to get the most squeezed out would actually be to water-bath the bottle/jar till the contents liquefied. I think that would be most accurate.
@@helenrennieI used to not like it except on tuna sandwiches but I love it now and I think a lot of people come around to it for different things especially in place of butter on grilled cheese if that counts
Nice. Thanks for the video. I prefer Kraft, reason being I often use mayo directly as condiment. Nothing beats mayo-american cheese-egg breakfast sandwich.
its also tasty to dip fries directly in mayo and Kraft is better for that, although yeah making a flavored mayo with Hellmann's would be even better but I'm usually too lazy for that
I like onion, garlic powder and paprika and add it to most flavored mayos I do, or would add it if I didn't use Kraft. Even in those I wouldn't, given the choice, it wouldn't bother me if they were there.
I have reached a new level of culinary nerdiness. This was very interesting and I look forward to your video on your venture into making your own mayo.
I feel this way about Miracle Whip. It is a great base for doing other things. It is hard to explain, but it is more crisp and sweet than Hellmann's, which seems greasier to me. I often mix Miracle Whip with very hot sauces, such as "You Can't Handle This Hot Sauce", "Crazy Jerry's Brain Damage", or "Raw Heat 69". Having done this with Hellmann's, there is an oil note that hangs wrong on the brightness of the big heat and spice combinations.
I'm in Aotearoa New Zealand so, l'm only familiar with many brand names that aren't available here, from online recipes that mention them. Apparently l have spent years incorrectly thinking that Miracle Whip was some sort of ready made frozen whipped cream. 😳 Quite glad l just moved on to a different recipe and never tried to substitute it. 😅
I didn't really notice a flavor different between the jar and the squeeze bottle, but yeah, the textural difference is huge to me. I went back to the jar.
I had this exact experience! I thought maybe the squeeze bottle tasted different because I was in Mexico. I swore I wouldn't buy Hellman's again, but had a lapse in memory and got a big jar. I wasn't too happy with myself until I used it. It was what I originally expected, the Hellman's I've been using for decades. Thanks for proving I'm not crazy LOL!
As a New Englander I really WANT to like Cains (you can tell it's the regional favorite because Market Basket bases their generic mayo packaging on it), but I just...don't. It's too sweet and acidic. Everything I add it to just tastes like Cains. I made coleslaw with it once, and I couldn't taste anything else. It tastes more like Miracle Whip to me, which I don't necessarily mind, but it's a totally different substance.
I love this and had no idea. I will say, I add different flavours to squeeze bottle Hellman's and always find it too thin. I thought it was me; the proportions I was using. So a big thank you! Off to the store for weekly shopping tomorrow and a jar is on my list.
i notified them about the jarred mayo, as its been more bitter and odd flavored, and thats from the regular jar. i opened the last 3 and all are that same newer odd flavor. tastes more like store bought.
Last month, the new squeeze bottle of Hellmann's Olive Oil Mayo separated within 2 weeks of purchase while being stored in the door of my fridge as per the Hellmann's label. While Hellmanns refunded my purchase price via check, I am through with them. I switched to Duke's and am happy I did. WM finally made Duke's available here in the center of the country.
Duke's mayo is the best. I was always a Hellman's fan until they started selling Duke's in our state. I always see it on all the Gordan Ramsey's cooking shows, so I decided to give it a try. It was so soooo good I never went back to Hellman's.
They did the same with HP Sauce, a once great, essential (glass) bottle of 'brown sauce' on British tables. It was so thick that you had to whack the end of the bottle to get it on your plate.. It went with a full English Breakfast, roast dinner, beans on toast etc. etc. etc. Then they thinned it down to a runny, sugary muck in a PLASTIC bottle and it tasted like ...(insert word rhyming with rap). R.I.P. the mighty HP sauce, .. some of us still remember.
I bought the squeeze bottle at that discount grocery store. I thought there was something wrong but I couldn’t put my finger on it now I know thanks for the video you are the best.
Now I wonder whether the Hellmann's jar mayo has changed too because I just opened a fresh jar (also from Costco) a few days ago and the first thing I notice is it seems to taste somewhat different. I thought I was losing my sense of taste & smell. I really hope they haven't changed the product because this has always been the best may.
Came here from Reddit to learn about the difference between mayo bottles. Absolutely loved your video, you got a subscriber! I also make my own mix with Hellman’s (the only good mayo) and it’s great. Looking forward to watching more of your videos
I've actually dumped hellmanns entirely recently. The texture and taste is just, gone downhill so much I've noticed, it just tastes like... Weirdly greasy? Swapped to Duke's instead...
I wonder if your discovery about homemade mayo was similar to my father's discovery about homemade cranberry sauce/jelly. He spent all weekend crafting his cranberry sauce/jelly, especially de-seeding it (cranberry seeds are very small and his finest mesh strainer was only about 2" in diameter). Once it finally set he discovered that for all that work it was nearly identical to the canned cranberry sauce/jelly. He never made it again.
Haha :) you might like the “make it or buy it” series one RUclipsr has. His cranberry sauces were very close. He didn’t need to deseed. IIRC, he went with “make it” but it was no big deal - only barely cheaper as well.
Thank you! I thought i just couldnt get my recipes right for a couple months! The flavor and texture are so completely different, the bottled one is so weird and gluey. That said, i think based on your analysis and the comments here, I might pick up a small jar of the Kraft mayo to have on hand as well!
I get up with 2 mayos. Hellman's, and homemade from my grandmother's recipe . That's my favorite, but I've been mostly homeless for 7 years, with no kitchen access🤷🏽♀️ Now I'm in a nursing warehouse, and I bought a tiny squeeze bottle of Hellman's because I didn't expect to use much. When I tasted it, I was Shocked at how different it was. I have kind of "perfect pitch" in taste, even over decades, so I'm glad to know I was right about the difference!
Thanks for your wonderful videos! Hellmans mayo in a jar is very airy. I don't know (but suspect) that this could affect both flavor and density. I'd be tempted to put each into a vacuum chamber and see if they come out similarly on the other side. There may also be some differences in the ingredient ratios to make the bottle form more squeezy friendly but suspect the primary difference is the airation.
I'm so grateful to know that this isn't just me. I actually have felt gaslighted. They're SO different!! And it's not just the texture, either (as the video points out). They taste very, very different.
So interesting! I also prefer Hellmann's (Best Food actually), and TOTALLY use the squeeze bottle, but I only used the stuff inside the bottle once until it was gone. I have literally cleaned and reused that bottle 30+ times and always fill it with the jar stuff, so, mine tastes great! Easy to do with a gallon bag with the corner cut off. Also, your aioli recipes are awesome! Try one with horseradish and worcestershire for topping potatoes... SO GOOD!!!
Mayo with some toasted sesame oil is great for sandwiches. I also use a drop of food grade essential oils like basil, rosemary, sage, lemon, lime, orange, bergamot, those are usually cold pressed and fine to eat, great boost of flavor. Some that are more intense, I just touch less than a drop on the back of a spoon and mix in.
Very informative video, as always. I agree homemade mayo taste better. However, I stopped doing this bc I usually use mayo in a dressing or dip. Not only is it an inconvenience, but I was getting inconsistent results due to variances in making mayo. I just settled with Hellmanns and the thickness properties is such a great helper.
The only time I use unaltered mayo is for sandwiches. I noted a texture difference, but never thought to compare the 2 side by side. As for the texture difference, I chalked it up to Hellman's altering it some to make a smooth product out of the squeeze bottle.
Edit: I don't know if my other comment made it, but it seems the bottle may be formulated to not need refrigeration. What a cliffhanger! And now I need to go try Hellman's in a jar! I have always used the squeeze bottle so I need to find out what I've been missing!
I thought it was just me, but you're absolutely right. The shop had none in the jar and I bought the squeezy bottle thinking it must be the same stuff - not the same at all, never again!
Note, that the emulsification in the squeeze bottle appears more "complete." It appears to take on a more consistent sheen than from the jar. If you pull out a spoonful from the jar, it almost seems to slightly "crack" sort of like a custard. There are other products, like Ranch Dressing from the store, that have them same kind of nasty taste, the has the same shiny homogenous look. I actually think it's to make the products more "pourable." That the normal state of Best Foods Mayo in a jar, might be a little too clumpy or something. Whatever the case is, I need to get back to getting jars, because I really hate the squeeze bottle taste.
I totally agree with you. I bought the squeeze bottle of Hellman’s , because there was no regular jarred Hellman’s I put it on my sandwich, and all I could taste was like a metallic taste n the texture was off. I watched Julia Child video and I made my own -a cup at a time. It’s so much easier and taste so much fresher. It’s the only way to go.
Same for cigarettes . When I used to smoke it was red Marlboro in soft pack , very different taste than the same in hard pack (and the same for Camel ) .
To all the people who quoted me as saying "only hellmann's is bland enough for me". You folks are seriously confused about what "bland" means. Hellmann's is not bland. Bland is food that's lacking salt or acidity. Those are tastes. Hellmann's is not lacking anything in the taste department. It's lacking in the aroma department, which is a good thing. This way I can give it my own aromas. Fresh garlic will smell so much better than the garlic powder that Kraft puts in. Fresh lemon juice will smell so much better than pasteurized lemon juice. I realize that most people use the terms like "flavor" and "blandness" to refer to both the smell and the taste, but if you don't untangle smell from taste, you'll never have any control in the kitchen.
Smell and taste, like many traits, exist across a continuum. Some are sensitive, some can train to a degree, some are insensitive. Sometimes one wants a single note, and the rest "blanded" out, diminished.
I have a blunted sense of smell , but am very tuned to texture, for an example, and can tell only bigger differences in taste.
Some of this is in sensing differences, some of it is in processing the sensation.
People just don't understand words
Yeah, hellmanns is superior because of its neutrality. Makes it an excellent ingredient and base. Other mayo brands are for people who think mustard is too spicy lol
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My roommate thought I was crazy for insisting on the jar instead of the squeeze bottle, but there really is a noticable difference in taste and texture. Glad to see I'm not the only one who noticed it!
I would guess it is a marketing ploy. Allow me to theorize:
1. Finance dept. says Resesrch & Development dept. has finished preliminary testing on a new, cheaper formula that over 50% of tasters either preferred over original or could not tell the difference.
2. Marketing dept. sees this and says, let's see if we can improve that number. They ask Design dept. for a new modern sensibility bottle and get it. They go back to R & D and say, try the test again with this new bottle. The number improves to over 60% of tasters.
3. Finance dept. says, the new recipe is cheaper, the new container is cheaper, and the new container seems to make the new recipe seem more acceptable. Therefore, the board will agree to put the new combination on shelves next to the original. If sales approach a certain percentage of original, we will begin phasing out original until it becomes a niche product. If there is backlash, a bunch of you get fired.
@@hyperbaroqueIt comes down to different levels of processed food. The bottled one being more processed, binding agents etc. which makes it denser and more suitable to squeeze out of a bottle.
Why, you might ask? Its denser and can be sold in a plastic container (more weight for less space). Another reason is the smoothness of it, the texture is different, which is awful for anyone used to the other one.
I can place a pretty sure bet that the bottled one is making them more money by a sizeable margin, much because of its poorer quality.
Tl;dr the marketing department has very little to do with this, its on the r&d team making and testing the products
same goes for Heinz mayo, I thought i was going crazy for years
My squeeze bottle tastes the same as the bottle but that's because I've kept the same squeeze bottle for years and just refill it :)
I had a similar experience with Miracle Whip. Last time I tried it, it was from a squeeze bottle, and it just tasted off. So much so that I figured they changed the recipe and I haven't had it for years. Never thought that it might be a squeeze bottle issue. I might have to pick up a small jar and try it again. Or maybe I'll try one of these recipes instead.
Squeezable and spreadable mayos require different rheological properties, and this probably accounts for the differences. Squeezing requires incompressibility and flow, while spreading requires good shear characteristics. This can also be seen in spreadable cream cheeses, whipping in air makes them shear and spread more nicely, but one can imagine squeezing a bottle of it would only compress the air.
Oh, rheoly?
Yeah, I'm not going to test further with my own jar of Hellmans because I don't want mayo all over my counter but just looking at how it acts when squeezing and jiggling the plastic jar leads me to believe it would be a nightmare to get out of a squeeze bottle.
The only real difference is the storage container. The jar is usually made of glass, while the squeeze bottle is made of soft plastic. If you store something in a glass jar, it will have a shelf life of a year, but if you store the same thing in a plastic bottle it will have a shelf life of 6 weeks.
I thought so too, but your explanation is more refined: "rheological". It's actually a no-brainer if you are a cook.
I suspect the jar version is more whipped partly to make it look like a larger volume, and I don't personally find to make spreading it easier when the whipped product is stored in a jar for extended periods of time. A product might arguably be easier to get out of a jar in larger volumes when it tends to clump, while the same property would be a nightmare for a squeeze bottle. Freshly whipped and otherwise non-whipped products are a completely different ball game worth an entire discussion on their own.
I noticed the taste difference when i tried the bottle version a few months ago, but in my country ( Romania) the ingredient list is different, might be a EU regulations issue because I know our laws are stricter when it comes to labeling. I've been buying the jar version for years and decided to try the bottle for the extra egg content but found it less enjoyable to use in part due to the container.
Ingredients for the bottle version:
Rapeseed vegetable oil (65%), water, alcohol vinegar, egg yolk (4.1%), sugar, MUSTARD (water, MUSTARD seeds, alcohol vinegar, salt, spices, flavors), salt, modified starch from corn, flavoring, thickener (xanthan gum), antioxidant (EDTA), coloring (carotenes). Water and volatile substances 23%.
ingredients for the jar version:
Rapeseed oil (76%), water (9.6%), alcohol vinegar (5.6%), sugar, pasteurized egg yolk (3%), MUSTARD (water, MUSTARD seeds, alcohol vinegar, salt , flavors, spices), salt, flavors, antioxidant (calcium disodium EDTA), coloring (carotenes).
I'd love to SEE the list of ingredients on the Romanian versions. If in the US they are not required to list them, maybe the difference will show up in Hellman's jar vs bottle ingredients lists in a country where they must. "Natural flavours"! Pfeh!
@@greenyonder took me a bit to find them online, updated my original comment for better visibility.
@@SilkyCayla You are awesome! Those are two VERY different mayos.
See - this is what I love about so-called European beaurocracy 😁 They have to label honestly. Greetings from Germany.
Do you have the bag version too in Romania? In Czechia the ingredients are the same as bottle, but tastes a bit "better".
Homemade mayo caught me totally by surprise too. I made several times with different oils, it was way better than the store versions
Absolutely !
There’s no comparison !
OmG, my sister made olive oil Mayo, so so good!
And you avoid the dangerous seed oils.
@@dawnelder9046 Is hemp seed oil bad for you too? What is the worst oil for you? Palm seed oil?
@@Mack_Dingocottonseed oil and palm oils are the two you really want to avoid. Really, anything hydrogenated should be avoided if you are able to. Soybean, grapeseed, and sunflower oil won't kill you but you should at least try to get them expeller pressed if possible. Sesame and peanut oils are fine for the most part. Coconut oil is also fine, but recent studies seem to associate it with adverse health effects so I'd use discretion with that.
Your best bets are going to be olive oil, flax oil, rendered animal fats, and butter for cooking; peanut oil for deep frying.
Not only do I learn a lot from Helen's videos, the comments are valuable as well. Bravo, everyone!
There is a third Hellman's version. For the commercial trade, it identifies itself as "EXTRA HEAVY". It has more egg yolks in it's ingredients. This makes it a better choice for making salad dressings as its greater fat content will help to keep mixtures from coming out of solution. I have only seen this available in one gallon or five gallon jars.
I really wish there was a publicly available version of this.
@@wizardlyfrog Costco or Sam's Club might
Same with the high gluten King Arthur flour, the best for pizzas. Large (-50lb?) bags only.
But egg yolks are almost pure protein?
@@fatphoca500976% fat 20% protein 4% carbs
Whites are almost entirely water at 88%, 11% protein, .17% fat, .73% carbs
No wonder egg whites are bland garbage by themselves😆
“Wicked good.” That’s the Boston in you. Brings me back to growing up in Cape Cod. Love it. That expression just never goes out of style.
i noticed that too 😂
As did I. 👍🏻👍🏻 (out here in the 413)
I imagine they needed a less fluffy and stiff version to allow it to easily squeeze out of the bottle.
Yep. The "more density" she mentioned helps it flow down better.
Meh, I bought a big jar of Hellman’s mayo and a pack of disposable piping bags. I then refill my squeeze bottle with the good stuff. I have not found it to be an issue squeezing it out. It acted the same as far as I could tell.
@shawnrhode I've been doing the same for about a year now, washing out the container then using a sandwich baggie with the corner cut off to refill it with the jar mayo 😅
the jar mayo taste through the squeeze container is very different than the og squeeze mayo, but not different from its jar form, ie. putting it in the bottle doesn't change the jar mayo taste at all.
if you pat the bottle down when you encounter air bubbles, it squeezes out fine, though it's not quite as smooth,, a bit chunky
Agreed! I stopped using the squeeze bottle and went back to the jar because it’s so gross. Also I found some squeeze bottles are more runny no matter how much I shook the bottle.
Who knew I would be charmed by a Mayo Video?! I could watch Helen describe mold on cheese and still be delighted. I'm definitely buying Hellman's Mayo in a jar going forward.
Blue cheese?
@angelacarr2481 good one 👌
Try Duke's Mayo if you can find it in your area. Who adds "sugar" to their mayo - Everyone except Duke's pretty much.
It would be the classiest mold in the world.
“I would call it repulsive, but taste is subjective” I LOVE Helen😂😂
“I’ve been blissfully ignoring these comments for over 10 years” BWAHAHAHA
why's she so hyperbolic? she didn't even try to explain why it was so repulsive to her. is this a luddite channel?
@seungo5523 I think I do understand what she is saying becoz when I first eat KFC in UK it was disgusting I couldn't understand why it's so different from the one in South Africa !but now I understand that they manufactures have to cater for their audience !in South Africa KFC chicken and chips is dripping with fat which all Africans love @now I was so disgusted by UK KFC but I do understand different countries have their own rules at how much salt,sugar and fat they allow companies to do
Omg, I thought I was crazy to think that they were different while the label had the same ingredients... I really thought I was being picky. Thank you for confirming my crazy idea! 😂
Me too!
There is probably more soybean oil to make it more spreadable. It up the chance to go rancid as well.
@@RayF6126 I keep my Hellmans in the cupboard through the summer (long story) and never get a hint of rancidity, so it must be quite resistant. PET isn't a great oxygen barrier either.
I always check the nutritional info table too. If those are identical I have a lot more trust in it being the same product
Me three. I assumed they just cheapened the whole brand down like every other company is doing. I'm getting the jar next time!@@aimeemorgado8715
I KNEW IT!!! I was making my usual turkey sandwich but my DIL had picked up Kraft Mayo (squeeze bottle) instead of our normal jar. I told my son, “do you think the turkey sandwiches taste the same as usual?” He said he was very hungry so he didn’t notice any difference. But I NOTICED a BIG difference. So much so that I became obsessed with this search that led me to your video. The taste was not horrible but not satisfying and delicious as usual. I also noticed actual oil on my napkin when wiping my fingers. Never again will I buy squeeze bottle it’s just a waste of money if you are preparing a tried and true turkey sandwich. Thank you for uploading your testing of the items. I’m going to tell my son, I KNEW IT!! 😅
Wow! This explains why my spinach dip came out completely different the one time I used Hellman's squeeze bottle. I noticed it right away, as I was making it it seemed more dense, but it was already in the bowl with sour cream so I had no idea how to adjust so proceeded as usual, not expecting a real difference. Well it definitely made a difference I didn't much care for in my dip. Thanks for letting us know!
I'm one of the home made Mayo gang, I've been making my own since I was a first year commis in 1976/77. There are some items like bread, soup, sauces, pastries, most pastas and mayonnaise I can't see any point in buying. It takes less than 5 minutes to make mayonnaise, you can choose the oil and vinegar depending on what you want if for.
This was from a consumer rights website we have in the UK from years ago...reply from helmanns apparently
Unfortunately the Real Mayonnaise in the Jars and the Squeezy Mayonnaise are 2 different products as the squeezy one has to have more fluid added to it to allow it to be squeezed out of the bottles.
The Real Mayonnaise in the jars is spooned out and so far less fluid is added to it so it can be weighed in grams. The squeezy one is a fluid so is weighed in ml.
Regarding Hellman's mayonnaise, I agree with you. It is different. A couple of thoughts I've had. Hellman's (Best Foods) switched from glass to plastic containers a few years back. When mayonnaise is on sale, I buy several jars. Plastic is permeable, and I found that the resulting product is not shelf stable. It will become rancid. I complained to Hellman's about this, and their reply was that they had received many positive comments about the plastic jars. I now store my extra jars in the fridge.
Squeeze bottles have a higher ratio of surface area to product, possibly resulting in faster spoilage.
Thanks to this video I no longer think I'm crazy. This his to be against the law. A consumer rights group should look into this.
You are very easy to listen to, and you have a very nice tone.
As someone with Celiac's disease I am a huge fan of squeeze mayo. The squeeze bottle means I don't risk contamination through gluten containing crumbs introduced via my roommates redipping a knife into my mayo.
Even a crumb of gluten containing bread will make me very sick, so every convenient way to mitigate that risk is valuable to me.
My entire family contaminates the mayo, and butter, and peanut butter, jelly/ jam/ preserves... it annoys me to no end, and other than finding a contraption to lock the lid so they can't into it or having multiple containers open at the same time... there is no way they'll ever stop.
I'm not even worried about gluten, but they somehow manage to make the bread they contaminated it with grow mold. Which leaves me to suspect they leave it out longer than they should with some frequency like they do bottles of salad dressing and ketchup.
My favorite Mayo used to be Hellmann's.
But then I tried Kewpie, a Japanese Mayo.
My final Mayo ranking:
1) Kewpie.
2) Dijon Mayo
3) Hellmann's
I love the combinations you created, thank you for sharing!
What an amazing channel. A real joy to watch!
It makes sense that the stuff in the bottle that comes out the bottom that's upside down would be denser so that the mayonnaise would actually come out of the package and squeeze on to your sandwich I believe it's the same thing they're just trying to make the mayonnaise come out of the package without you having to get it out so it's basically just a heavier mayonnaise but yeah that means a different recipe
One thing I’ve noticed, the jar mayo has more air bubbles in it so I usually stir the bubbles out before weighing it which may account for the density difference. But have never tasted the squeeze bottle so I can’t speak to the flavor profiles. I will say there can be a different flavor profile between batches of jar mayo. One batch I bought at Costco a few months ago had an acrid unpalatable flavor profile in all 3 jars I bought. So manufacturing variance is definitely a thing.
Your investigation helps me understand, why I never stir a new jar of mayo. I like the gelatinous texture and try not to disturb it. Thanks for clarifying this bottle/jar difference, once and for all. I knew something was off.
If I have the opportunity I always buy Kewpie Japanese mayonnaise. Compared to American supermarket mayonnaises, it’s made with yolks instead of whole egg, rice vinegar, and MSG a for an umami boost. It’s richer and thicker and makes a great foundation for a variety of sauces.
And squeeze bottle.
I've heard Blue Plate is also made from nothing (but) yolks. Intend to try it.
It's so good but it's hard to justify paying like 10x as much
@@adog3129 Walmart carries it in my city, Kewpie is 2x the price per oz as name brands like Kraft and Best Foods and actually cheaper than some of the fancier organic/avocado oil/whatever options. I’d also recommend checking out any Asian grocers in your area
Since the ingredient list doesn't include quantities, it's possible the difference is due to a change in ratio. It also makes sence for the company since different ratio will impact the texture: and as mayo from a squeeze bottle is applied differently, a different texture might be desirable.
Had same experience with Hellman's but it was with two different jar sizes. My store was out of every size except the small 12oz glass jar. Being a lifelong Hellman's user, thought it would be the same but...the small jar had a very different appearance, texture and a totally different taste.
Better??
I knew I was NOT CRAZY! I told everyone those two are NOT THE SAME and they LAUGHED! But the odd thing is, I like the squeeze bottle Hellmann's more than I like the Jar Hellmann's. I mix it with sriracha, soy sauce and spicy barbecue sauce together for a great dipping sauce on wings and fries but only use the squeeze bottle Hellmann's. It always tasted DIFFERENT when I used the Jar and I always use the EXACT same measuring cups and exact same levels for the EXACT SAME taste. But it just HIT DIFFERENT using the Jar, Thank you Helen Rennie for such a Wonderful Video.
Kewpie has different colors to indicate restaurant grade or consumer grade. Blue label is for restaurants and generally is more neutral tasting with less egg and is visibly less yellow, compared to the normal red label that is sold for consumers that is eggier and maybe more tangy
I've only tried the red label Kewpie and (I am afraid to admit it here because Kewpie has such a following) I didn't like it.
@@helenrennie same I prefer the blue for the more neutral flavor but it still runs on the tangy side for me
@@helenrennie Kewpie's big difference is that not only is it tangier and eggier, but it also has MSG in it to give it that umami boost. Now, I love MSG and use it in my cooking as an ingredient regularly, but that's an important difference that highly (IMO) affects the flavor, so some people may like the extra savoriness, some may not. I like Kewpie in certain things, but I don't like it as a day-to-day mayo because that flavor can be a bit extra sometimes. I love my Duke's.
@@pulykamell Yep. I love kewpie as a dip for fries, but would never use it as a mayo in recipes. Like Helen says, Hellmans is great for its lack of flavor you can add to.
@@candyjaywee I adore Japanese mayo but I do agree that it's not a discussion of subjective taste, but actual taste - how neutral it can be. Japanese mayo has double egg yolks, rice & (occasionally) apple cider vinegar, as well as MSG, so its profile is fundamentally flavorful and not neutral at all. It's fantastic on its own when compared to its store-bought contemporaries, but it's not supposed to be used as a substitute in recipes.
i love her voice, she's not putting me to sleep she is just soothing me
When I lived in Boston I used Cains all the time and loved it. When I moved to the Southeast there was no Cains and I started using Dukes - and loved it even more. Come to find out they both have apple cider vinegar. It just might be the secret sauce in the sauce.
they might be the same company, on the west coast hellmann's is called "best foods"
Thank you! I thought I was imagining the difference. I have been buying the squeeze bottle because I don't use it as much as I used to so the jar is a waste. Now I use even less because it doesn't taste right. Going out to buy a jar tomorrow!
thank you so much, Miss Helen! You have demystified my mystery 😂. About two months ago Costco had a sale on the squeeze bottles version; and naturally a frugal housewife would reach for the package of two believing it to be the same. Of course I was not at all so scientific as yourself 😊, but yesterday I jumped on the sales wagon at Costco and purchased a jar even though there is another unopened squeeze bottle in my larder 😅. Reason? My potato salad and beetroot salad were “off” both in flavour and texture….bottle version tastes weak and lacks the punch …etc 😮 so now I am back to the ginormous fat jar in my fridge ! Live and learn 😊❤🎉
how this appears to be "so scientific" to you is astounding. your selling yourself short since you noticed the difference between the two, just like Helen. it would be great if she had investigated why or how the two versions differ, especially since she found the bottled version "repulsive". instead of explaining her negative reaction, this clickbaited into flavoring a completely different brand of mayo. since we'll never learn why from Helen, I would love to see a version of your salads made with each version of mayo while you have both. That would actually be scientific.
I too, noticed the difference between the jar and the squeeze bottle. Thanks for confirming it
Very interesting! I have occasionally bought the squeeze bottle while camping but I can't say I noticed a difference. Of course, I was using it to mix with tuna fish so that is a pretty assertive flavor. Otherwise, I always buy the jar. I will certainly continue to do so! Thanks, Helen!
You were also likely hungry. I hate SPAM with a passion I tolerate it after hiking.
Thank you, Helen! I thought I was the only one that thought this about about other mayos. I won't eat other mayos unless I have a very specific use for them. Otherwise they just go to waste. Thanks again for the confirmation! I'm not going 'round the bend!!!
I'd always used Hellman's but recently my supermarket was out of the jars. I don't like squeeze containers (sounds like I dodged a bullet!) so I tried Duke's. It has a similarly neutral flavor profile but i find the texture is better, less "jiggly." Their light version is also quite respectable.
This is fascinating. I would never have suspected. Thanks, Helen!
A couple of years ago I purchased a squeeze bottle of Hellman mayo, made a ham and cheese sandwich, took two bites out of it and threw it away. It wasn't past the expiration date, just tasted bad and different texture. I guess when you've had Hellman's all your life you really notice the difference!
That's an in your head + a you problem for waste
@@johnlinks put the crackpipe down and mind your own business, adults are talking here.
I'm glad you did the science behind my thoughts about mayo. I'll never lick mayo from a spoon, but i won't buy hellmans in a squeezer anymore!
Thank you and I'm pretty sure I love you for doing this 🤣
Similar experience with Daisy Sour Cream in a tub and in a squeeze bottle. Totally different textures and to my palate the squeeze bottle product is less flavorful; more of a smooth, white goo. I thought it was me!
We actually prefer the squeeze Daisy as it's more like what my SO is used to from living in Europe in terms of texture. The tub stuff is too stiff.
Thi9s just blew my mind and confirmed a thing I have been sensing for a while. Thank you!
Thank you for this. I drove myself nuts trying to replicate Texas Roadhouse's ranch dressing mix and ended up having a "taste test" of just about every commercially available mayonnaise. They are indeed all extremely different. To make matters worse, there are "heavy duty" mayonnaise options for Helman's and Duke's, which contains additional egg yolks, that are available for commercial kitchens in gallon-sized jars.
My wife started buying it in a bottle a while back and I swear our BLT sandwiches don’t taste the same. You just solved the crime! That’s IT! The darn bottle stuff really IS different and I never would have guessed. Thank you!
We noticed this with the Hellman's Light mayo as well! The squeeze bottle version is definitely not as good as the version in the jar. I figured that it was just an off batch, but the next time I went to the supermarket they only had the squeeze bottle, so I figured that I'd give it another try and it wasn't any better. From now on jars only. I'll bet that they change the formulation to make it more "squeezable".
Plastic is not neutral. I have had a number of experiences with food taste being effected by the plastic container. If given a choice I will buy the glass container. It probably cost more but it is cost effective if can eat it but have to bin the plastic because you cannot stomach the plastic taste.
Light mayo has modified food starch and sugar in it.
Kraft also has lite versions with a blend of either avocado oil or olive oil with canola and soybean oil. You can get the jar version (plastic) instead of the squeeze bottle.
They have .5g sat fat per serving instead of 1.5g or more.
OMG! I’m so glad I hit on your vid. Ever since covid and having bouts of losing taste periodically, I’ve been saying certain foods just don’t taste as good. Hellman’s mayo was one of those. I had purchased the squeeze bottle rather than my usual regular jar. Aside from the fact that the squeeze bottle is very poorly designed making it difficult to get the product out, I just wasn’t enjoying the taste as it wasn’t the same to me but I never thought the style of the bottle meant a different product. Now I get it! Thank you for this invaluable information!
This weekend I’m going to make homemade mayo.
Take care and I’ve now subscribed to your channel!
You can never have too many Bonne Maman jars.
i always reuse mine ❤
@helenrennie, @1:41. Since Mayo is mostly oil-based, and is emulsified, I would think the best way to get the most squeezed out would actually be to water-bath the bottle/jar till the contents liquefied. I think that would be most accurate.
So many people love to despise mayo--but it is my favorite. Love that you have done a whole video on it--and another is on the way. Thanks.
I know! I had people tell me in class before that they refuse to eat mayo. ever. This is really puzzling to me.
I grew up with a jar of mayo on the table with every meal (Belgian)... I use it moderation now but still always on fries! @@helenrennie
I hate it with a passion.😂
@@helenrennieI used to not like it except on tuna sandwiches but I love it now and I think a lot of people come around to it for different things especially in place of butter on grilled cheese if that counts
Thank you so much! I will never use Hellmann's again.
Duke's will be forever my mayonnaise of choice.
Nice. Thanks for the video. I prefer Kraft, reason being I often use mayo directly as condiment. Nothing beats mayo-american cheese-egg breakfast sandwich.
its also tasty to dip fries directly in mayo and Kraft is better for that, although yeah making a flavored mayo with Hellmann's would be even better but I'm usually too lazy for that
I like onion, garlic powder and paprika and add it to most flavored mayos I do, or would add it if I didn't use Kraft. Even in those I wouldn't, given the choice, it wouldn't bother me if they were there.
I have reached a new level of culinary nerdiness. This was very interesting and I look forward to your video on your venture into making your own mayo.
I feel this way about Miracle Whip. It is a great base for doing other things. It is hard to explain, but it is more crisp and sweet than Hellmann's, which seems greasier to me. I often mix Miracle Whip with very hot sauces, such as "You Can't Handle This Hot Sauce", "Crazy Jerry's Brain Damage", or "Raw Heat 69". Having done this with Hellmann's, there is an oil note that hangs wrong on the brightness of the big heat and spice combinations.
I'm in Aotearoa New Zealand so, l'm only familiar with many brand names that aren't available here, from online recipes that mention them. Apparently l have spent years incorrectly thinking that Miracle Whip was some sort of ready made frozen whipped cream. 😳 Quite glad l just moved on to a different recipe and never tried to substitute it. 😅
@@nikiTricoteuse Heinz Salad Cream as they have in the UK has a similar flavor profile so might work as a substitute for Miracle Whip.
Wow!!!! a very informative video.............. you learn something useful every single day!!!! THANKS!!!!!
I didn't really notice a flavor different between the jar and the squeeze bottle, but yeah, the textural difference is huge to me. I went back to the jar.
I had this exact experience! I thought maybe the squeeze bottle tasted different because I was in Mexico. I swore I wouldn't buy Hellman's again, but had a lapse in memory and got a big jar. I wasn't too happy with myself until I used it. It was what I originally expected, the Hellman's I've been using for decades. Thanks for proving I'm not crazy LOL!
Haribo does the same thing for sweets!! Depending on the package, identical looking candies are different both in taste and texture
Wait, there is more! I will tune in next time. Measurable! Thank you for following up.
As a New Englander I really WANT to like Cains (you can tell it's the regional favorite because Market Basket bases their generic mayo packaging on it), but I just...don't. It's too sweet and acidic. Everything I add it to just tastes like Cains. I made coleslaw with it once, and I couldn't taste anything else. It tastes more like Miracle Whip to me, which I don't necessarily mind, but it's a totally different substance.
I love this and had no idea. I will say, I add different flavours to squeeze bottle Hellman's and always find it too thin. I thought it was me; the proportions I was using. So a big thank you! Off to the store for weekly shopping tomorrow and a jar is on my list.
I make my own fermented mayo but I’m looking forward to seeing your next video on your reaction to your homemade mayo. I love your videos!
So cool! May I ask your recipe?
i notified them about the jarred mayo, as its been more bitter and odd flavored, and thats from the regular jar. i opened the last 3 and all are that same newer odd flavor. tastes more like store bought.
Last month, the new squeeze bottle of Hellmann's Olive Oil Mayo separated within 2 weeks of purchase while being stored in the door of my fridge as per the Hellmann's label. While Hellmanns refunded my purchase price via check, I am through with them. I switched to Duke's and am happy I did. WM finally made Duke's available here in the center of the country.
Duke's mayo is the best. I was always a Hellman's fan until they started selling Duke's in our state. I always see it on all the Gordan Ramsey's cooking shows, so I decided to give it a try. It was so soooo good I never went back to Hellman's.
Need Dukes on the west coast!😊
looking forward to your next video. you always keep me captivated. love it
They did the same with HP Sauce, a once great, essential (glass) bottle of 'brown sauce' on British tables. It was so thick that you had to whack the end of the bottle to get it on your plate.. It went with a full English Breakfast, roast dinner, beans on toast etc. etc. etc. Then they thinned it down to a runny, sugary muck in a PLASTIC bottle and it tasted like ...(insert word rhyming with rap). R.I.P. the mighty HP sauce, .. some of us still remember.
you can still buy both though
I bought the squeeze bottle at that discount grocery store. I thought there was something wrong but I couldn’t put my finger on it now I know thanks for the video you are the best.
Now I wonder whether the Hellmann's jar mayo has changed too because I just opened a fresh jar (also from Costco) a few days ago and the first thing I notice is it seems to taste somewhat different. I thought I was losing my sense of taste & smell. I really hope they haven't changed the product because this has always been the best may.
TRY BLUE BLPATE IF IT'S AVAILABLE IN YOUR AREA. IT'S VERY SIMULAR TO WHAT HELLMAN'S WAS, BUT IT'S A LOT BETTER.
Came here from Reddit to learn about the difference between mayo bottles. Absolutely loved your video, you got a subscriber! I also make my own mix with Hellman’s (the only good mayo) and it’s great. Looking forward to watching more of your videos
I've actually dumped hellmanns entirely recently. The texture and taste is just, gone downhill so much I've noticed, it just tastes like... Weirdly greasy? Swapped to Duke's instead...
Thanks for this video. I’ve been using Dukes in a jar as my base.
I wonder if your discovery about homemade mayo was similar to my father's discovery about homemade cranberry sauce/jelly. He spent all weekend crafting his cranberry sauce/jelly, especially de-seeding it (cranberry seeds are very small and his finest mesh strainer was only about 2" in diameter). Once it finally set he discovered that for all that work it was nearly identical to the canned cranberry sauce/jelly. He never made it again.
Haha :) you might like the “make it or buy it” series one RUclipsr has. His cranberry sauces were very close. He didn’t need to deseed. IIRC, he went with “make it” but it was no big deal - only barely cheaper as well.
I’ve noticed the same exact thing! I hate the one in the squeeze bottle! Only Hellmans in the jar is the BEST!
Thanks so much for this video!
Thank you! I thought i just couldnt get my recipes right for a couple months! The flavor and texture are so completely different, the bottled one is so weird and gluey. That said, i think based on your analysis and the comments here, I might pick up a small jar of the Kraft mayo to have on hand as well!
I get up with 2 mayos. Hellman's, and homemade from my grandmother's recipe . That's my favorite, but I've been mostly homeless for 7 years, with no kitchen access🤷🏽♀️
Now I'm in a nursing warehouse, and I bought a tiny squeeze bottle of Hellman's because I didn't expect to use much.
When I tasted it, I was Shocked at how different it was. I have kind of "perfect pitch" in taste, even over decades, so I'm glad to know I was right about the difference!
Thanks for your wonderful videos!
Hellmans mayo in a jar is very airy. I don't know (but suspect) that this could affect both flavor and density. I'd be tempted to put each into a vacuum chamber and see if they come out similarly on the other side. There may also be some differences in the ingredient ratios to make the bottle form more squeezy friendly but suspect the primary difference is the airation.
I'm so grateful to know that this isn't just me. I actually have felt gaslighted. They're SO different!! And it's not just the texture, either (as the video points out). They taste very, very different.
So interesting! I also prefer Hellmann's (Best Food actually), and TOTALLY use the squeeze bottle, but I only used the stuff inside the bottle once until it was gone. I have literally cleaned and reused that bottle 30+ times and always fill it with the jar stuff, so, mine tastes great! Easy to do with a gallon bag with the corner cut off.
Also, your aioli recipes are awesome! Try one with horseradish and worcestershire for topping potatoes... SO GOOD!!!
if you cut a little hole right at the edge of the paper seal on a new jar of mayo, you can squeeze it directly from the jar to a squeeze bottle
... I've also been filling a squeeze bottle with jarred Hellman's... I was starting to think I was insane 😄
@@AsherMaximum isn't it a glass jar? Sounds challenging!
@@elferrito6068most are plastic these days
@@AsherMaximum interesting. Definitely not the case here. I've never seen Hellman's in a plastic jar. Maybe it's different in different places.
Thank you so much for sharing your fabulous recipes
I frankly use Duke's mayo. No added sugar. I also think it tastes better
I'm so glad to have Duke's sold locally. Otherwise, I would have to order it in.
Mayo with some toasted sesame oil is great for sandwiches. I also use a drop of food grade essential oils like basil, rosemary, sage, lemon, lime, orange, bergamot, those are usually cold pressed and fine to eat, great boost of flavor. Some that are more intense, I just touch less than a drop on the back of a spoon and mix in.
Very informative video, as always. I agree homemade mayo taste better. However, I stopped doing this bc I usually use mayo in a dressing or dip. Not only is it an inconvenience, but I was getting inconsistent results due to variances in making mayo. I just settled with Hellmanns and the thickness properties is such a great helper.
The only time I use unaltered mayo is for sandwiches. I noted a texture difference, but never thought to compare the 2 side by side. As for the texture difference, I chalked it up to Hellman's altering it some to make a smooth product out of the squeeze bottle.
Edit: I don't know if my other comment made it, but it seems the bottle may be formulated to not need refrigeration.
What a cliffhanger! And now I need to go try Hellman's in a jar! I have always used the squeeze bottle so I need to find out what I've been missing!
Interesting! Maybe because they expect it to be used outdoors, like at barbeques?
Different formulation but using same ingredients? I suppose the proportions could be different.
Very interesting. Also thank you for the sauce recipes! I will definitely be trying those out
Dukes mayonnaise!
I changed to Dukes. It has great flavor.
@@sr2291 and no added sugar
@scpatl4now I never noticed that, but I like the taste of it much better.
I thought it was just me, but you're absolutely right. The shop had none in the jar and I bought the squeezy bottle thinking it must be the same stuff - not the same at all, never again!
Doesn’t really matter given ‘Duke’s’ is the superior mayo. 😅
No added Sugar!
Kewpie has entered the chat.
Like most things, the Japanese improve on everything.
Duke's and Cain's both smell and taste like the smell of wet dog.
@@quintessenceSL 100%. Kewpie is a must try. It really is next level.
Team Kewpie here!
Note, that the emulsification in the squeeze bottle appears more "complete." It appears to take on a more consistent sheen than from the jar. If you pull out a spoonful from the jar, it almost seems to slightly "crack" sort of like a custard. There are other products, like Ranch Dressing from the store, that have them same kind of nasty taste, the has the same shiny homogenous look. I actually think it's to make the products more "pourable." That the normal state of Best Foods Mayo in a jar, might be a little too clumpy or something. Whatever the case is, I need to get back to getting jars, because I really hate the squeeze bottle taste.
Hoy.. Luv... U've got me at the edge of my seat... I just can't wait for the next episode...it's nerve wrecking... Hahaa...Luv your program... Hahaa
I totally agree with you. I bought the squeeze bottle of Hellman’s , because there was no regular jarred Hellman’s I put it on my sandwich, and all I could taste was like a metallic taste n the texture was off. I watched Julia Child video and I made my own -a cup at a time. It’s so much easier and taste so much fresher. It’s the only way to go.
I make many flavors of Aioli which are delicious.Keep a jar of Hellmans in my fridge for those times I don't want to expend any energy.
This is crazy. I went from a squeeze bottle to a jar but didn't notice anything but wasn't really paying attention. Great video.
I'm glad I saw this always considered getting the squeeze bottle for convenience but just kept getting the big jar
Same for cigarettes . When I used to smoke it was red Marlboro in soft pack , very different taste than the same in hard pack (and the same for Camel ) .
It’s so great to find a RUclips host and viewers that are fussy about mayo. Coming from NY, it’s Hellmans (Best Foods here) or nothing.
And by that, I mean in the jar!
Thank you Helen, that was Awesome!
Thank you Helen, that was a surprise!
As always, soooooo informative.