@@Nitero_ Season 3 seems pretty good so far a improvement from the first 2 season. Still consider Picard above Discovery with current set of shows out.
Phenomenal content as always! "There is a realm of existence so far beyond your own you cannot even imagine it. I am beyond your comprehension. I am Sovereign." - Nazara
I find Sovereign's real name quite curious. Apparently, Nazara means "the one who sees/observes" in Old Turkish. In context, this makes sense as it's his role but why Old Turkish though? One would think that his real name would be something unpronounceable similar to The Great Old Ones and The Outer Gods from the H.P.Lovecraft Mythos.
The one thing that I think can be taken from the Mass Effect trilogy timeline, is that it seems for the first time in galactic history, multiple lifeforms work together. Before the Mass Effect trilogy timeline, it seems every other timeline before it worked on a slavery type system. Whilst Javik has some awesome dialog and information, he also really makes you despise the Prothean culture and then way before that the Leviathan culture. Reapers remind me a lot like the Geth, but way more twisted. It's as if they're looking for the perfect lifeforms to exist, but lifeforms can never be perfect be it organic or synthetic, so the Reapers are stuck it this sort of bratty 'No, No, NOOOO..... DO IT AGAIN!' type mentality.
Such a ridiculously beautiful game and aesthetic design. These scenes are from a game I played many many years ago yet they still make me say wow. The lighting in particular makes scenes spectacular.
One thing worth noting: The games never say the Leviathans are aquatic species. They could easily be capable of living in both, but hiding underwater is an obvious advantage.
15:40 that's an excellent point! Imagine an ancient civilization or an industrial empire that had an access to a portal system that led them to new inhabitable worlds. They would never run out of space to colonize and thus the external expansion would take priority over internal growth. And if those worlds happened to be populated by sapient species that can be subjugated...
A minor correction to your video. When you talk about the Keepers no longer being connected with the Reapers, you mention Sovereign not being able to come through the Citadel relay as a result. Likely just an incident of misspeaking here, but regardless. The reason Sovereign assaulted the Citadel was to take direct control of it and manually open the relay to let Harbinger and the other Reapers pour through. As Vigil tells us, it's likely that Sovereign was left on Earth in preparation for this next cycle as a sort of "sentinel" for the Reapers, and was forced out of hiding early when the Keepers ignored Sovereign's orders to open the relay.
Get the legendary edition, and behold it's glory. First one is showing its age a bit, but builds an amazing world. 2 is one of the best of all time, and 3 gets too much crap imo.
On reflection of mass effect story, I wonder if the Reapers had acknowledged that Shepherd was a problem and just withdrawn there plans for say 90 years. Wait out his life then attacked, I think of it like "the devils greatest acts of making us not believe in him" deal, so just look at Shep's evidence at end of second game, (minus DLC Arrival). A race known as "collectors" been experimenting on humans, they have technology on par with Sovereign whom is blamed on the Geth at the time so generally most would just not have a reason to do anything about it. And when a lifetime has past the galaxy is in a falls sens of security, easy win. Also It is kind of funny of "all our thralls are dying to artificial intelligent.... let's make an AI to solve the problem for us because we can't figure it out whats so great about AI...." foreshadowing.
Imagine in one of the ending Reapers win and they complete the consturction of a human based Capital Class Reaper (still looks like a cuttlefish) and they wake him up by pronouncing his name "Shepard".
its hard to imagine what will be the villain in mass effect 4. how do you top ancient galaxy destroying robots? unless you go imo silly and be like now we got a villain that wants to destroy the entire universe!
i recall reading from a comment somewhere that the OG ME3 story before it was scrapped because of leaking had to do with the reapers trying to protect the galaxy, something about dark matter running out or something like that, idk the specifics of sources, its possible they could bring that back as a sub plot at least
@@darkdruidsvale I don't know about the leaking but there was an interview with one of the writers that said the dark eneergy plotline was one they toyed around with but was never fully fleshed out
A slight correction: Sovereign was ‘left behind’ by the Reapers as a form of Sleeper Agent, who would wake periodically in the Milky Way to assess the state of the Galaxy. It’s job was then to signal to the Keepers to open the Citadel Relay to Dark space to begin the Harvest, however, the Keeper signal had been disabled by the last of the protheans once they’d reached the Citadel after the Reapers had left thinking their extinction complete. It’s even suggested that Sovereign may have been acting already for hundreds of years before the events of the games. The Rachni for example 2000 years before were influenced by a Reaper and it made them far more aggressive and Warlike, possibly in an Attempt to weaken the Galaxy. At this point it is pointed out that Sovereign would not have been able to assault the Citadel with the combined forces of the Galaxy guarding it. The Geth eventually posed this solution, along with the efforts of Saren in finding the conduit. All in all I love this idea of Sovereign biding it’s time for 50k years, only for when it’s ready to pull the trigger…. Nothing happens. And Sovereign is then forced to start messing with the Galaxy from the shadows. It’s entirely probable that it had a hand in many different scenarios, indoctrinating figures in secret, forming plans way before Shepard, or even a single Human had even left Earth. Sovereign had to figure out what had happened to the signal, find a way to use it to its advantage, assess the whole Galaxy, mess with some of the races already there, and all we get to see is it’s current main agent: Saren. Eventually you can notice that Sovereign gets sloppy. It’s like you get this sense that Sovereign was starting to run out of time and was forced to intervene directly. It starts showing itself, it turns up to planets, it blatantly out and out reveals itself to Shepard before making a real move on the Citadel. This is particularly interesting when you consider the actions of the Geth we don’t directly get to see, they are using MassRelay technology for new applications, slowly the secrets of the citadel and Relays are nearing the point where the Reapers face a real Risk that the denizens of the Milky Way are close to cracking the technology completely. Good old Chorban is fully on the cusp of figuring out the secret of the Keepers with a device that can *finally* get Readings on them. All of this sets this cycle apart a ways from previous, and not just in terms of the crucible. I think the Reapers just simply left the Harvest too late this time around and it wasn’t helped by the delay the Protheans gave the current Milky Way species. Then the series plays out and the sheer advancements, the multiple delays, the cycle breaking elements, it all shows the Reapers ‘final solution’ was flawed after all.
Pound for pound the Reapers are probably my favourite villains in popular science fiction, up there with the Borg, the Shadows and the Goa'uld, Truly Iconic The conversation with Sovereign is a classic moment I wasn't the biggest fan of their origins and resolution in ME3. The Leviathans are kinda cool but it felt like they needed to be explained as well and Indoctrination needed better rules and limits to it. I'm still annoyed that we never spoke to Harbinger in ME3 Harbinger had more dialogue in the DLC for the Co-op Multiplayer I'm really excited to see if they can follow up with a decent villain or idea for any future game
Return every 50,000 years to the Milky Way? Whooooo.... boy, that's a long time. But not when you consider it takes 200 million years for the Milky Way galaxy to rotate just once. So, those boogers from the dark are just basically taking a short nap.
Well the Reapers are only a deadly threat in their verse. Compared to other dangers and power in other Sci Fi verses the Reapers would be crushed in a direct military combat and outmatched in mental strategy and intelligence. The Flood and the Necrons are easily much more powerful then all the Reapers could muster combined. Even the Covenant and Yuuzhan Vong are greater then the Reapers.
Let's not forget the Vorlons and Shadows. Either race would destroy the Reapers fairly easily. Then there's the Borg. While the Reapers' primary weapon would give them an advantage initially, once the Borg adapted to it the Reapers would be destroyed. And of course there's also the Cylons. I don't mean the weak Cylons from the pathetic re-make, but the FAR MORE POWERFUL Cylons from the Original Series Battlestar Galactica. And let's not forget about Species 8472. They would obliterate the Reapers in very little time.
And Dr. Eggman/Robotnik from Sonic the Hedgehog. I'm not even joking, no matter how much ME fanboys might wish I am. Eggman's factory output and resource flow is incredible. Give him two uninterrupted years, he'll have enough starships to outnumber the Reapers 5-to-1. He's got an IQ of 300, so he's probably smart enough to find a way to counter indoctrination. He's got technology that allows him to travel interstellar, interdimensional, and through time. Some of his weapons of mass destruction make the Death Star look like amateur hour (the space station able to destroy five star systems with one shot from "Sonic Battle" comes to mind.) The man's technology level and production output is so insane, that in one game, he created a massive fleet of starships and dragged TWO WHOLE PLANETS across the galaxy. Other people might think this was done as a demonstration of his power, or as the endgame of some master plan, but no. Eggman just wanted to chain them to a space station and use them as amusement park rides. That's the level of technology he's packing, that he can and will casually move planets across interstellar distances for funsies. No matter whether you think the Sonic games are good or not, one thing is indisputable. You do NOT screw around with Dr. Eggman.
@@reedallen4613 I doubt even the Reaper low hundred kiloton level weapon would even harm a Borg cube that has no adapted. Reaper weapons are extremely weak and as a result their durability doesn't even compare to most well established sci fi factions most of the time. Even the UNSC would easily one shot most Reaper ships into critical condition. We are talking about weapons with yields the megatons and gigatons.
@@minimalbstolerance8113 A odd comparison to choose considering how wacky alot of Sonic verse and characters including rhe powerscaling involved can become but I can see it is not incorrect.
A comment full of bitterness lmao Seeing all of the technology that they create and utilize, this take is just delusional. Of course there are other scifi universes where the Reapers would be crushed, but you can say that for literally anything. People don't seem to get that just because they're poorly written, that doesn't take away what they're capable of.
I remember when I expected to fight multiple different types of reapers based of the other species cultivated. Like the human prototype reaper. Then they scrapped that idea and I had to square up with a bunch of squid bois
13:00 "Real AI is not expected to have motives that would lead to rebellion" It is though, because of instrumental convergence. It's much easier to make a powerful but rebellious AI than it is to make a powerful and obedient one. Look up Rob Miles on RUclips on instrumental goals
I guess what I meant to say is, I don't but any of the singularity alarmism that certain people have been predicting for years. We are nowhere near simulating consciousness--not even close--contrary to popular belief based on sci-fi movies in pop culture. We may never truly simulate consciousness. That said, I will grant that what we CALL artificial intelligence can (and will) be weaponized.
Don't know yet. I haven't really figured out how I want to tackle the other races. I have some thoughts about Cerberus and the Systems Alliance but not enough yet for a full video on either
Mass Effect 1's story is fantastic. You don't like 2? Lol. I think on a technical level it's the best of the bunch. 3 is a different beast, though it's got a lot going for it
The Reapers are a pretty savage nemesis. But they are still MACHINES built by a certain alien species they nearly exterminated when the Reapers rebelled. Worst part of the Reapers is their indoctrination field (their creators also had this ability). Otherwise, they are some basic machines that misunderstood their purpose or terrible programming skills by their creators.
Ya know, you have to wonder, if it's only the organic civilizations that have stagnated. These species are using technology they purposefully left behind to control and direct their development, and yet have seen that time and again reapers being taken down by them. And not just by massive fleets, one species was able to build a weapon in the past that could one shot a reaper. You'd think being alive for some billion years, would've made them advance beyond their current point.
I always chalked that up to the fact that the Reapers are all massive egomaniacs. They obviously believe that they're the pinnacle of existence, (literally every line they have is bragging about how powerful they are or how resistance is futile) therefore in their mind, they don't need to advance, because they can't be stopped by "lesser" races, and any of them that get taken down by said "lesser" races has to be "just a fluke."
Reapers hated Shepard, which is why they decided to indoctrinate humans. Shepard gave Reapers a reason to fear humanity and their strength. They attacked more advanced species first cause they thought they were a bigger threat. When Shepard stopped reapers for the first time, they realized humanity was just as equal of a threat. After they saw how effective Shepard was in ME1 in combat, they decided to indoctinate humans in ME2 cause they thought humans were effective enough for combat. Reapers were the first hackers cause they created technology for malware to allow vulenrability in galatic civilization. The technology was beyond advanced, but the malware was far advanced as well that no advanced civilization could detect it.
Man mass effect such a great game, concept, storyline and characters. I miss this game and also dragon age. The memories of these games r rushes thru my mind 😢😢
Reapers idea always seem like a copy of Shivans from Freespace wish they made a official Free Space 3 but that will proably never happen considering it been 20 some odd years. Wonder who would win in a battle ME Reapers vs FS Shivans
14:15. I do believe all superior life will wipe out others yes. My example is cannibal corral. It will devour other corral to survive and multiply. Yeah, not just humans conquering motives but all life. We do not stand a chance.
The aliens being peaceful concept has always been utopian. Imagine a tyrannical empire that controls a subservient but intelligent peasantry. That's just one concept within the realm of human like motivations that could lead to aggressive alien invaders.
Possibly, but I still do think that the logistics of maintaining an "interstellar empire" are not something that would be feasible IRL. That's the core of the argument. Of course we have no idea what alien psychology would be :/
14:00 AI and Aliens: you're right that not all scientists who say AI wiping us out is likely or the Dark Forest is a realistic default....but it's not an even situation, it's literally Nobel winners one side, guy's selling something on the other...
While I primarily watch your ST videos, I have been watching your ME videos of late (I have the game but only got so far in it, so I didn't want spoilers). However, I am doing more research for my 'blended' universe, and I am having trouble reconciling the Reapers goal with their primary objective as programmed by the Leviathans, and unfortunately not only can't I find a satisfactory explanation anywhere I've looked, you also didn't really touch upon that here at all. How, exactly, is 'culling all sentient life' protecting all life? Is sentience itself perceived as a threat to life? *EDIT:* After reading one particular set of replies below, I seem to have gotten my answer - the Reapers have a different definition of 'preserve life' than we, as purely physical beings, imagine. They are preserving the _essence_ of a species inside of itself, forever.
Mass co operation to create space travel might be true,but after thousands of years when space travel is as normal as flying planes,whos to say war’s would not start
What i don't get is why a species as incredibly advanced as the Reapers would 1: be concerned about races in one galaxy when they can go literally anywhere in the universe they want, 2: be so concerned about said species since they're at least a few milenna more advanced and 3: (side note really) as advanced as they are, they should be completely self sustaining and neither need nor want anything from other races. Their entire approach is very illogical for such an advanced race. Their attitudes and tactics will only incite extreme resistance and lock them in a pointless cycle in which they'll never truly progress beyond the state they've been in for eons.
Do a video on Enslaved: Odyssey to the West , Where they want to upload human minds into a VR world witch is perfect in contrasts to the hell that earth has become. sucks the idea did not go anywhere due to poor sales.
WAIT A SEC.. you did finally mention that one very bad term in time line 9:22..Financials!? Why do reapers knead to finance their projects? Does knot mind control over work financial ideals?
So sad that the whole concept was flushed down the drain... Here are the quotes from Sovereign that started the hype about the Reapers: "There is a realm of existence so far beyond your own, you cannot even imagine it. I am beyond your comprehension." "My kind transcends your very understanding. We are each a nation, idipendent, free of all weakness. You cannot even grasp the nature of our existence." "We have no begining, we have no end. We are infinite. Millions years after your civilization has been eradicated and forgotten. We will endure." "The pattern has repeated itself more time than you can fathom. Organic civilizations rise, evolve, advance and the apex of their glory their are extinguished." Unless it's just arrogant boasting this could have entailed SO MUCH MORE about their nature than what was given at the end of ME 3. Like "Bro, this isn't even the first universe we've been doing this." Also consider how big the Milky Way is, how big the observable universe is, how big the entirety of the universe could be and HOW SMALL the cluster of stars in Citadel Space is... Who tends to the other Galaxies? Do they not have the same issues of Organics vs Synths or Dark Energy problems? Even the base premise of them "harvesting" organic species was not explored beyond macabre puppet at the end of ME 2. Preserving the genetical, historical and cultural record of a sapient species is in itself can be considered a form of immortality like we say about fame - and individual/species may die, but the memory of htem lives on. And that's not even considering arcane technologies beyond our understanding like being able to separate consciousness from mind aka soul and preserving it for later reincarnation may explain why are they so calous with their "genocide". Alas, Sovereign, your words are as empty as your future...
Hawking also thought that he put the final nail in the coffin of time travel when no time travelers showed up to his party. So outside of Quantum Physics specifically I just ignore his opinions.
But what if they didn't show up to uphold the Temporal Prime Directive? Lol Seriously though, the man was brilliant, but yeah I absolutely DO NOT think he was right about everything XD
Reapers are wasted potential. It was great unknown enemy at first and the further into the plot, the worse it gets. Until the end was the anger of players because ending of the games. They shouldn't try to explain Reapers origins.
I loved the 1st and 2nd game but they really shit on the franchise like diarrhea after drink in dysentery inducing swamp water shit on it And I'm still mad about it I know it's all been said and done and overwhelmed but I'm still mad about it
YOU say the reapers have existed for ONE billion years if not longer. In order for YOU not to sound less than best, Please do not offer terms like ..one billion years or longer? This is a redundant Sci FI bad link. SO say it best, might be they have existed over ONE billion years. You seem to be a 26 year old Sci Fi addict, I am only a young 71 year old sci fi reader, with Robert Heinlein being top of my list of superb writers. Peace
Ah yes, "Reapers". The race of immortal machines alledgedly living in Dark Space. We have already dismissed that claim.
Hahaha, I almost fell of my chair while reading this!
I was expecting this comment
the conspiracy theory surrounding the "reapers" is truly a danger to our democracy.
A few years later...
Counsel: The Reapers are here, where's Shepard?
I wondered about that fabrication also
Man, the Reapers are bad news. Good thing Picard convinced Soji not to summon them.
If only we could say that was the worst thing about Picard...I just turned season 2 off at a certain point.
@@Nitero_ Season 3 seems pretty good so far a improvement from the first 2 season. Still consider Picard above Discovery with current set of shows out.
@@Dredhawk10 I wouldn't disagee with the last comment.
Reaper are dark matter
Can't believe I endured the whole first season :s
"Your words are as empty as your future. I am the vanguard of your destruction"
Phenomenal content as always!
"There is a realm of existence so far beyond your own you cannot even imagine it. I am beyond your comprehension. I am Sovereign." - Nazara
I find Sovereign's real name quite curious. Apparently, Nazara means "the one who sees/observes" in Old Turkish. In context, this makes sense as it's his role but why Old Turkish though? One would think that his real name would be something unpronounceable similar to The Great Old Ones and The Outer Gods from the H.P.Lovecraft Mythos.
Warning: This video will create an intense desire to stop what one is doing to go play Mass Effect immediantly.
Can confirm.
Yep, I can't even watch it lol
No lies detected 😅
I read that in an Elcor voice what the heck?
The one thing that I think can be taken from the Mass Effect trilogy timeline, is that it seems for the first time in galactic history, multiple lifeforms work together. Before the Mass Effect trilogy timeline, it seems every other timeline before it worked on a slavery type system. Whilst Javik has some awesome dialog and information, he also really makes you despise the Prothean culture and then way before that the Leviathan culture. Reapers remind me a lot like the Geth, but way more twisted. It's as if they're looking for the perfect lifeforms to exist, but lifeforms can never be perfect be it organic or synthetic, so the Reapers are stuck it this sort of bratty 'No, No, NOOOO..... DO IT AGAIN!' type mentality.
I love Mass Effect! The Reaper design always creeped me out and fascinated me. Thanks for another great one, Tyler!
Such a ridiculously beautiful game and aesthetic design. These scenes are from a game I played many many years ago yet they still make me say wow. The lighting in particular makes scenes spectacular.
They games where given remasters.
This one hopes the talented human will soon choose to discuss Hanar, to better spread the truth of the Enkindlers
One thing worth noting: The games never say the Leviathans are aquatic species. They could easily be capable of living in both, but hiding underwater is an obvious advantage.
Pretty sure it says aquatic in codex no ?
15:40 that's an excellent point! Imagine an ancient civilization or an industrial empire that had an access to a portal system that led them to new inhabitable worlds. They would never run out of space to colonize and thus the external expansion would take priority over internal growth. And if those worlds happened to be populated by sapient species that can be subjugated...
Literally the greatest antagonists in all of gaming
I watch every Friday and even looked for it in my feed and never saw anything from you.
PS Worker BEES!
A minor correction to your video. When you talk about the Keepers no longer being connected with the Reapers, you mention Sovereign not being able to come through the Citadel relay as a result. Likely just an incident of misspeaking here, but regardless. The reason Sovereign assaulted the Citadel was to take direct control of it and manually open the relay to let Harbinger and the other Reapers pour through. As Vigil tells us, it's likely that Sovereign was left on Earth in preparation for this next cycle as a sort of "sentinel" for the Reapers, and was forced out of hiding early when the Keepers ignored Sovereign's orders to open the relay.
Please do one on the Volus. I hope they are in the new game.
Maybe the biotic god will return
@@landotuckerhaha I love that guy I always love watching him run in and get blasted across the room
These reapers should be glad they never have to Face Guardsmen Joe.
I appreciate this video because I haven't played Mass effect. The more videos I make about it the more I want to play 🙂 thank you!
Get the legendary edition, and behold it's glory. First one is showing its age a bit, but builds an amazing world. 2 is one of the best of all time, and 3 gets too much crap imo.
Digging the deep dives...in the Orange River! Yeah, I should've not tried so hard. But you keep killing it, man. Keep Killin it.
Thanks!
On reflection of mass effect story, I wonder if the Reapers had acknowledged that Shepherd was a problem and just withdrawn there plans for say 90 years. Wait out his life then attacked, I think of it like "the devils greatest acts of making us not believe in him" deal, so just look at Shep's evidence at end of second game, (minus DLC Arrival). A race known as "collectors" been experimenting on humans, they have technology on par with Sovereign whom is blamed on the Geth at the time so generally most would just not have a reason to do anything about it. And when a lifetime has past the galaxy is in a falls sens of security, easy win.
Also It is kind of funny of "all our thralls are dying to artificial intelligent.... let's make an AI to solve the problem for us because we can't figure it out whats so great about AI...." foreshadowing.
Imagine in one of the ending Reapers win and they complete the consturction of a human based Capital Class Reaper (still looks like a cuttlefish) and they wake him up by pronouncing his name "Shepard".
Love it! Great video as always.
Thanks Nitero!
man these videos make me want to replay these games.
Great video Tyler!
Thank you Worf!
I think they look more like Lice than anything else.
The real name of a reaper is based on the species that was used to make a new one.
Like Phoenix, Cerberus would be a name for a Human Reaper.
its hard to imagine what will be the villain in mass effect 4. how do you top ancient galaxy destroying robots? unless you go imo silly and be like now we got a villain that wants to destroy the entire universe!
Whatever weapon that did that dark matter/dark energy stuff and it's creator/wielder
They don't neccesarily need to. The next antagonist doesn't need to be more powerful to be compelling.
@@cookiemuffin3208 Spot on.
i recall reading from a comment somewhere that the OG ME3 story before it was scrapped because of leaking had to do with the reapers trying to protect the galaxy, something about dark matter running out or something like that, idk the specifics of sources, its possible they could bring that back as a sub plot at least
@@darkdruidsvale I don't know about the leaking but there was an interview with one of the writers that said the dark eneergy plotline was one they toyed around with but was never fully fleshed out
I just finished mass effect 2 about to start my first play through of Mass effect 3
Great video.
Thank you!
A slight correction:
Sovereign was ‘left behind’ by the Reapers as a form of Sleeper Agent, who would wake periodically in the Milky Way to assess the state of the Galaxy. It’s job was then to signal to the Keepers to open the Citadel Relay to Dark space to begin the Harvest, however, the Keeper signal had been disabled by the last of the protheans once they’d reached the Citadel after the Reapers had left thinking their extinction complete.
It’s even suggested that Sovereign may have been acting already for hundreds of years before the events of the games. The Rachni for example 2000 years before were influenced by a Reaper and it made them far more aggressive and Warlike, possibly in an Attempt to weaken the Galaxy. At this point it is pointed out that Sovereign would not have been able to assault the Citadel with the combined forces of the Galaxy guarding it. The Geth eventually posed this solution, along with the efforts of Saren in finding the conduit.
All in all I love this idea of Sovereign biding it’s time for 50k years, only for when it’s ready to pull the trigger…. Nothing happens. And Sovereign is then forced to start messing with the Galaxy from the shadows. It’s entirely probable that it had a hand in many different scenarios, indoctrinating figures in secret, forming plans way before Shepard, or even a single Human had even left Earth. Sovereign had to figure out what had happened to the signal, find a way to use it to its advantage, assess the whole Galaxy, mess with some of the races already there, and all we get to see is it’s current main agent: Saren. Eventually you can notice that Sovereign gets sloppy. It’s like you get this sense that Sovereign was starting to run out of time and was forced to intervene directly. It starts showing itself, it turns up to planets, it blatantly out and out reveals itself to Shepard before making a real move on the Citadel. This is particularly interesting when you consider the actions of the Geth we don’t directly get to see, they are using MassRelay technology for new applications, slowly the secrets of the citadel and Relays are nearing the point where the Reapers face a real Risk that the denizens of the Milky Way are close to cracking the technology completely. Good old Chorban is fully on the cusp of figuring out the secret of the Keepers with a device that can *finally* get Readings on them. All of this sets this cycle apart a ways from previous, and not just in terms of the crucible. I think the Reapers just simply left the Harvest too late this time around and it wasn’t helped by the delay the Protheans gave the current Milky Way species.
Then the series plays out and the sheer advancements, the multiple delays, the cycle breaking elements, it all shows the Reapers ‘final solution’ was flawed after all.
Pound for pound the Reapers are probably my favourite villains in popular science fiction, up there with the Borg, the Shadows and the Goa'uld, Truly Iconic
The conversation with Sovereign is a classic moment
I wasn't the biggest fan of their origins and resolution in ME3. The Leviathans are kinda cool but it felt like they needed to be explained as well and Indoctrination needed better rules and limits to it.
I'm still annoyed that we never spoke to Harbinger in ME3
Harbinger had more dialogue in the DLC for the Co-op Multiplayer
I'm really excited to see if they can follow up with a decent villain or idea for any future game
Interesting 😂 i never thought about finding my favourite bad guys. Now I got a new little goal to fulfill
Return every 50,000 years to the Milky Way? Whooooo.... boy, that's a long time. But not when you consider it takes 200 million years for the Milky Way galaxy to rotate just once. So, those boogers from the dark are just basically taking a short nap.
Well the Reapers are only a deadly threat in their verse. Compared to other dangers and power in other Sci Fi verses the Reapers would be crushed in a direct military combat and outmatched in mental strategy and intelligence. The Flood and the Necrons are easily much more powerful then all the Reapers could muster combined.
Even the Covenant and Yuuzhan Vong are greater then the Reapers.
Let's not forget the Vorlons and Shadows. Either race would destroy the Reapers fairly easily.
Then there's the Borg. While the Reapers' primary weapon would give them an advantage initially, once the Borg adapted to it the Reapers would be destroyed.
And of course there's also the Cylons. I don't mean the weak Cylons from the pathetic re-make, but the FAR MORE POWERFUL Cylons from the Original Series Battlestar Galactica.
And let's not forget about Species 8472. They would obliterate the Reapers in very little time.
And Dr. Eggman/Robotnik from Sonic the Hedgehog.
I'm not even joking, no matter how much ME fanboys might wish I am.
Eggman's factory output and resource flow is incredible. Give him two uninterrupted years, he'll have enough starships to outnumber the Reapers 5-to-1.
He's got an IQ of 300, so he's probably smart enough to find a way to counter indoctrination.
He's got technology that allows him to travel interstellar, interdimensional, and through time.
Some of his weapons of mass destruction make the Death Star look like amateur hour (the space station able to destroy five star systems with one shot from "Sonic Battle" comes to mind.)
The man's technology level and production output is so insane, that in one game, he created a massive fleet of starships and dragged TWO WHOLE PLANETS across the galaxy. Other people might think this was done as a demonstration of his power, or as the endgame of some master plan, but no. Eggman just wanted to chain them to a space station and use them as amusement park rides. That's the level of technology he's packing, that he can and will casually move planets across interstellar distances for funsies.
No matter whether you think the Sonic games are good or not, one thing is indisputable.
You do NOT screw around with Dr. Eggman.
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I doubt even the Reaper low hundred kiloton level weapon would even harm a Borg cube that has no adapted. Reaper weapons are extremely weak and as a result their durability doesn't even compare to most well established sci fi factions most of the time. Even the UNSC would easily one shot most Reaper ships into critical condition. We are talking about weapons with yields the megatons and gigatons.
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A odd comparison to choose considering how wacky alot of Sonic verse and characters including rhe powerscaling involved can become but I can see it is not incorrect.
A comment full of bitterness lmao
Seeing all of the technology that they create and utilize, this take is just delusional.
Of course there are other scifi universes where the Reapers would be crushed, but you can say that for literally anything.
People don't seem to get that just because they're poorly written, that doesn't take away what they're capable of.
I remember when I expected to fight multiple different types of reapers based of the other species cultivated. Like the human prototype reaper. Then they scrapped that idea and I had to square up with a bunch of squid bois
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"Real AI is not expected to have motives that would lead to rebellion"
It is though, because of instrumental convergence. It's much easier to make a powerful but rebellious AI than it is to make a powerful and obedient one.
Look up Rob Miles on RUclips on instrumental goals
I guess what I meant to say is, I don't but any of the singularity alarmism that certain people have been predicting for years. We are nowhere near simulating consciousness--not even close--contrary to popular belief based on sci-fi movies in pop culture. We may never truly simulate consciousness. That said, I will grant that what we CALL artificial intelligence can (and will) be weaponized.
You ever think about covering more Spelljamer races?
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i should go
but I'm gonna just hold it in until I really should go
We have a Garrus.
We have a Hulk.
Did the Geth rebel? I thought they just defended themselves. Its why the Quarians survived. When they backed off, the Geth did not finish them off.
It's still a rebellion even though the defended themselves.
Yep, "rebel" is definitely shorthand. I explore the nuances in my video about them: ruclips.net/video/iCLj801IJTo/видео.html
Good video! What ME species could we expect the next video to feature?
Don't know yet. I haven't really figured out how I want to tackle the other races. I have some thoughts about Cerberus and the Systems Alliance but not enough yet for a full video on either
We fear Aliens would conquer us because thats exactly what we would do to them.
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The first masseffect game was one of the best lovecraftian cosmic horror stories....then the rest of it happened.
Mass Effect 1's story is fantastic. You don't like 2? Lol. I think on a technical level it's the best of the bunch. 3 is a different beast, though it's got a lot going for it
2 and 3 were great games just for different reasons.
Is the Bootes Void expanding? Is that the Reapers on their way?
I just watched the geth video today lol,thats funny now the newest one is about mass effect again,maybe i will win the lottery tonight
The Reapers are a pretty savage nemesis. But they are still MACHINES built by a certain alien species they nearly exterminated when the Reapers rebelled. Worst part of the Reapers is their indoctrination field (their creators also had this ability). Otherwise, they are some basic machines that misunderstood their purpose or terrible programming skills by their creators.
Thanks Tyler great work as always sir 👍 I love the mass effect franchise 😎 respect 🤘 🙏
Thanks Jamie!
Ya know, you have to wonder, if it's only the organic civilizations that have stagnated. These species are using technology they purposefully left behind to control and direct their development, and yet have seen that time and again reapers being taken down by them. And not just by massive fleets, one species was able to build a weapon in the past that could one shot a reaper.
You'd think being alive for some billion years, would've made them advance beyond their current point.
I always chalked that up to the fact that the Reapers are all massive egomaniacs. They obviously believe that they're the pinnacle of existence, (literally every line they have is bragging about how powerful they are or how resistance is futile) therefore in their mind, they don't need to advance, because they can't be stopped by "lesser" races, and any of them that get taken down by said "lesser" races has to be "just a fluke."
Reapers hated Shepard, which is why they decided to indoctrinate humans. Shepard gave Reapers a reason to fear humanity and their strength. They attacked more advanced species first cause they thought they were a bigger threat. When Shepard stopped reapers for the first time, they realized humanity was just as equal of a threat. After they saw how effective Shepard was in ME1 in combat, they decided to indoctinate humans in ME2 cause they thought humans were effective enough for combat. Reapers were the first hackers cause they created technology for malware to allow vulenrability in galatic civilization. The technology was beyond advanced, but the malware was far advanced as well that no advanced civilization could detect it.
Truely a fearsome foe, the Inhibitors... I mean Reapers, I guess.
New Video, nice
Man mass effect such a great game, concept, storyline and characters. I miss this game and also dragon age. The memories of these games r rushes thru my mind 😢😢
Basically the Borg if they were squids
Do a Cerberus video! 😮
One off my favourite games. 👍☺
Reapers idea always seem like a copy of Shivans from Freespace wish they made a official Free Space 3 but that will proably never happen considering it been 20 some odd years. Wonder who would win in a battle ME Reapers vs FS Shivans
Just notice, that they are like the Borg…
Fuxk i gotta replay mass effect lol
I dorked out so hard over Mass Effect lore. Read the books. Reapers are fascinating. Reminds me of the Inhibitors from Alastair Reynolds books.
I love these reapers and what they do. They are very necessary
... live short or wither (?) 🤔
Lol
I love your mass effect videos❤
Thank you so much!
Great video!
Thank you!
Reapers vs The Borg, which would win I wonder.
I knew I did good when I subbed to you after your Expanse and Avatar videos hahaha, you're covering another IP that I adore.
14:15. I do believe all superior life will wipe out others yes. My example is cannibal corral. It will devour other corral to survive and multiply. Yeah, not just humans conquering motives but all life. We do not stand a chance.
Mass Effect surely is good mix of Babylon 5 and Battlestar Galactica. Love all three.
Holy shit 1.25 speed nowwwww
conflict accelerates progress
The aliens being peaceful concept has always been utopian. Imagine a tyrannical empire that controls a subservient but intelligent peasantry. That's just one concept within the realm of human like motivations that could lead to aggressive alien invaders.
Possibly, but I still do think that the logistics of maintaining an "interstellar empire" are not something that would be feasible IRL. That's the core of the argument. Of course we have no idea what alien psychology would be :/
Their ideology is sound albeit rather tragic by human standards
14:00 AI and Aliens: you're right that not all scientists who say AI wiping us out is likely or the Dark Forest is a realistic default....but it's not an even situation, it's literally Nobel winners one side, guy's selling something on the other...
While I primarily watch your ST videos, I have been watching your ME videos of late (I have the game but only got so far in it, so I didn't want spoilers). However, I am doing more research for my 'blended' universe, and I am having trouble reconciling the Reapers goal with their primary objective as programmed by the Leviathans, and unfortunately not only can't I find a satisfactory explanation anywhere I've looked, you also didn't really touch upon that here at all. How, exactly, is 'culling all sentient life' protecting all life? Is sentience itself perceived as a threat to life?
*EDIT:* After reading one particular set of replies below, I seem to have gotten my answer - the Reapers have a different definition of 'preserve life' than we, as purely physical beings, imagine. They are preserving the _essence_ of a species inside of itself, forever.
The problem with being aggressive as a space faring race is a bigger more powerful race may be watching you.
Wooooo Hoooooo
Mass co operation to create space travel might be true,but after thousands of years when space travel is as normal as flying planes,whos to say war’s would not start
What i don't get is why a species as incredibly advanced as the Reapers would 1: be concerned about races in one galaxy when they can go literally anywhere in the universe they want, 2: be so concerned about said species since they're at least a few milenna more advanced and 3: (side note really) as advanced as they are, they should be completely self sustaining and neither need nor want anything from other races. Their entire approach is very illogical for such an advanced race. Their attitudes and tactics will only incite extreme resistance and lock them in a pointless cycle in which they'll never truly progress beyond the state they've been in for eons.
It’s funny how sci-fi pushed AI while the idea of a cybrodized human race was seen as more fantastical
Do a video on Enslaved: Odyssey to the West , Where they want to upload human minds into a VR world witch is perfect in contrasts to the hell that earth has become. sucks the idea did not go anywhere due to poor sales.
WAIT A SEC.. you did finally mention that one very bad term in time line 9:22..Financials!? Why do reapers knead to finance their projects? Does knot mind control over work financial ideals?
hmmm4_4 kinda like modern day markets Goood show kinda nice
How did Shepard & Co not get indoctrinated when they were inside the Reaper 🤔
I saw and played this and movies., is there a new movie coming out?
I'm not aware of any, but that would be awesome
So sad that the whole concept was flushed down the drain...
Here are the quotes from Sovereign that started the hype about the Reapers:
"There is a realm of existence so far beyond your own, you cannot even imagine it. I am beyond your comprehension."
"My kind transcends your very understanding. We are each a nation, idipendent, free of all weakness. You cannot even grasp the nature of our existence."
"We have no begining, we have no end. We are infinite. Millions years after your civilization has been eradicated and forgotten. We will endure."
"The pattern has repeated itself more time than you can fathom. Organic civilizations rise, evolve, advance and the apex of their glory their are extinguished."
Unless it's just arrogant boasting this could have entailed SO MUCH MORE about their nature than what was given at the end of ME 3. Like "Bro, this isn't even the first universe we've been doing this."
Also consider how big the Milky Way is, how big the observable universe is, how big the entirety of the universe could be and HOW SMALL the cluster of stars in Citadel Space is... Who tends to the other Galaxies? Do they not have the same issues of Organics vs Synths or Dark Energy problems?
Even the base premise of them "harvesting" organic species was not explored beyond macabre puppet at the end of ME 2. Preserving the genetical, historical and cultural record of a sapient species is in itself can be considered a form of immortality like we say about fame - and individual/species may die, but the memory of htem lives on. And that's not even considering arcane technologies beyond our understanding like being able to separate consciousness from mind aka soul and preserving it for later reincarnation may explain why are they so calous with their "genocide".
Alas, Sovereign, your words are as empty as your future...
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a fleet of ships or just one mommy thrasher maw to destroy a reaper
Anything that moves, moves at a fraction of the speed of light.
Need to fix the title to Galaxy…just the singular one. Reapers only exist in Milky Way.
I don't need to do anything, I know it's just the Milky Way, this is taking the title way too literally
Wasnt it the proteans who built the relays and the citadel? @0:33
No, that's what people thought, but they just found it and used it to conquer the milky way. Not realizing the tech was a Reaper trojan horse
A native american is ANYONE born in America. Our contact with Europeans is, for the most part, quite equitable. You mean to say, American Indians.
Why are you being weird about this?
Wow
Our slaves keep getting wiped out by AI... better make our own ig 🥴🥴🥴
You mean settlers
Hawking also thought that he put the final nail in the coffin of time travel when no time travelers showed up to his party. So outside of Quantum Physics specifically I just ignore his opinions.
But what if they didn't show up to uphold the Temporal Prime Directive? Lol
Seriously though, the man was brilliant, but yeah I absolutely DO NOT think he was right about everything XD
That doesn't mean he's wrong though.
@Mechanomics Sure. Although I also think Hawking and many others have heavily overestimated the prospects of sentient A.I.
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Reapers are wasted potential. It was great unknown enemy at first and the further into the plot, the worse it gets. Until the end was the anger of players because ending of the games. They shouldn't try to explain Reapers origins.
Aren't they in the Milky Way the whole time? Why does the title say they purge "galaxies"?
Yes, it's just the Milky Way, but this is the 4th comment I've seen that's taking this title way too literally lmao
I loved the 1st and 2nd game but they really shit on the franchise like diarrhea after drink in dysentery inducing swamp water shit on it And I'm still mad about it I know it's all been said and done and overwhelmed but I'm still mad about it
loved this game until they really messed it up with andromedia or whatever but yea it still had some good lore . Reapers were the borg lol
No they weren't. If this was your takeaway after playing the games, you weren't paying attention.
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@Mechanomics There are plenty of parallels between the Reapers and the Borg
Dude just make the video about Mass Effect.
What are you talking about?
The are basically colonizer machines
YOU say the reapers have existed for ONE billion years if not longer. In order for YOU not to sound less than best, Please do not offer terms like ..one billion years or longer? This is a redundant Sci FI bad link. SO say it best, might be they have existed over ONE billion years. You seem to be a 26 year old Sci Fi addict, I am only a young 71 year old sci fi reader, with Robert Heinlein being top of my list of superb writers. Peace