Those awkward moments where they oil themselves in the decontamination chamber and we get those closeups always make me cringe so hard. But aside from that it has its moments...
I'm going to say it... Enterprise was my favorite Star Trek series. For some reason, it really clicked with me. The ships are all perfectly designed (at least the ones that aren't just reused CG models to save time and money), the characters are more raw and human, closer to reality than the utopian crews in other series, and when they finally bothered to get to worldbuilding they did a great job at it. Jeffrey Combs as Captain Sharon - another actor would have been interesting to watch, but Combs put so much character into his portrayal, it really brought the Andorians to life. You notice that Andorians are barely in Star Trek before Enterprise, just showing up in background crowd shots at most, and because of Combs doing such a great job fleshing out the personalities of Andorians, pretty much all Star Trek since then has Andorians front and center.
The next nearest habitable world beyond Vulcan was Andoria. Just maybe that had something to do with it considering THIS was the beginning of Man's exploration of space. We didn't just drive past stuff we knew nothing about to get to more stuff we knew nothing about. :D
Enterprice, like many Star Trek shows before, had a slow first few seasons and then began to raise the quality of the stories and the series in general, as long as the studios don't destroy the internal dynamics that have been created. With so much potential destroyed by the perennial shadow of cancellation, creativity is the first to die along with the commitment of the actors and writers. You can feel the changes and the beginning of the self-created implosion. How sad!
The difference between the US 'intervention' in the middle-east, and the Enterprise's excursion into the expanse, is that in the latter case there actually is a weapon of mass destruction, and they're planning on using it. This actually makes a difference.
T'Pol is one of my favorite Vulcans. Although it is true that Vulcans do have emotion and simply choose to suppress it, too many actors allows their emotion to bleed through in their performances. Tim Russ's Tuvok and Jolene Blalock's T'Pol do the best job of showing that struggle to suppress emotions.
You leaving out my boy Leonard Nimoy? Those episodes where he is fighting off Nurse Chappel? The episode where he let slip he was happy to see Kirk alive, then had to bury it deep before McCoy could get off a few shots on him for showing joy?
@@fearisthemind-killernah, he prefers Tim Russ’s absurd Vulcan who CONSTANTLY SHOWS emotion: the catch, he’s the Vulcan with only negative emotions: annoyance, anger, snideness, passive-aggressiveness, condescension, frustration….
2nd best joke ever in Trek, a highly trained covert ops Klingon warrior, was taken down by a human farmer. I do not question the fear of humans Vulcans had.
Look closely at the farmer's belt buckle. Although I cannot identify the raised relief design, the style of under-clipping buckle is typical of military uniforms. I think the farmer is a veteran, possibly with combat experience.
Meh, I loved Enterprise. My second favorite Trek series after DS9. Hell, marathon binges of ENT got me through a divorce. Minus the finale, of course, which I refuse to watch.
this is pretty much my opinion on trek as a whole. i take it further and commit the cardinal sin of having the opinion that TNG is thoroughly overrated
It was interesting. It brought a few of the TNG crew on... you can tell they aged. But it was not nearly up to snuff, as some of the others. I was a big fan of the Xindi arc. It was a huge disappointment that this show got cancelled.
The ENT novels fixed the finale: Trip didn't die, they faked his death for a long-term undercover mission. It's still classified in the TNG era, so Riker's holodeck program isn't completely accurate.
At night, before bed, I alternate between episodes of DS9 and/or Enterprise. There's just something about those two series that keep me coming back, after all these years.
Even though "These are the Voyages" is hated, I wonder if anyone has edited together a Supercut of "The Pegasus" & "These are the Voyages" together into a huge single episode?
We are just finishing watching and discussing it in my ST group and the most frequent discussions have been how different Vulcans are and how hot headed and racist (against Vulcans) Archer is. In my memory Archer is the noblest of Captains. The ST George Washington. But in reality he is highly flawed, which maybe makes him more human
I never saw him as racist as much as I saw his contempt for Vulcan government to manipulate us through well-measured advise, keeping secrets, and trying to get Earth to make the same choices as them - even if it meant subversion. With only a single representative present regularly, that individual took the brunt of his frustration often.
I don't recall Archer being particularly racist toward vulcans. I remember him being pissed off and complaining about the vulcans holding humans back and that's about it.
Yeah, I think he was that way because his dad probably played nice. And it pissed him off to see his dad humbled by that not wanting to hurt huma ity out of spite. The only Vulcan he was never like that with was tpol, but only after he was pissed early on with her for communicating with high command behind his back in that one episode. It really was a blanket (I would say almost or justified) racism. He was never once happy when having to deal with them. And even went and found the surak cult on literal Vulcan to solve a plot that directly affected an act of terrorism that resulted in dead humans.
@@thegrayshaws Your group is full of oversensitive idiots. Archer's beef was with Vulcan High Command who had systematically hindered his father's Warp engine research and tried to cancel his mission from day one...if Archer was such a "racist" why he was so eager to go to Vulcan monastery in P'Jem to learn about their culture very early in the series and fought tooth and nail to keep T'Pol on the ship.
I'm 44 and a lifelong Star Trek fan. I watched Enterprise late (about 10 years ago) but it struck a chord with me, to the point I would re-watch its blu-ray set over and over again.. to this day. I really like the first 2 seasons a lot. The third season is my personal favourite and season 4 was great with it's mini arcs.
@@nitehawk86 The Reeves-Stevens duo could have. Bringing them onboard was what made the final season especially memorable, helping to tie the show to the TOS-era. It's a shame they cancelled the show right before the timeline would have had the outbreak of the Earth-Romulan War.
Agreed recent iterations just plain suck. Super Super woke to point of distractions. Some white males not stupid or gay are absent. No one is can identify with and what's her face can do no wrong.like captain marvel. Im a Harris voter so people please vote against monster trump
I have often said, Enterprise is the Star Trek show with the most untapped potential. Small changes here and there would have elevated it significantly. Even taking it as it was though, I still enjoyed it, and unlike some fans I liked the first two seasons with some exception of course.
@@chrischreative2245 1. Fix all the dialog and canon breaking errors (ie: 4 days to Qonos, Ferengi, etc). 2. Give Travis and Hoshi more character development. 3. Make the ship look more like the Conestoga, less like the Akira. 4. Lean into the earlier tech and time period and make use of those limitations rather than treat it like TNG-DS9-VOY. Make it more about humanity getting out there for the first time. 5. Earth Romulan war. There is more thoughts, but those are what pop into my mind at the moment.
@@CaptainJonathan I agree with most of that. I def prefer Star Trek eras before they “figured everything out” and can just come up with things. Like archer saying when viewing Columbia that “we needed those weapons and a lot more”
The fall of UPN spelled doom for Enterprise. After UPN failed, they hired a Trek hater that CEO and cancelled it after season 4. What a slap in the face to all of the actors especially Bakula! Fast forward to now and they're still pushing their crap as "Paramont Plus".
I really wish it had continued, I'd love to have seen the refit nx with the secondary hull that Eaves designed in action, maybe the planning or construction of the daedalus class, more of the other ships in the fleet like the warp delta and intrepid class. It would've been awesome to see the beginnings or events of the Romulan war and they could've done more with the Klingons seeing as they'd probably start to focus more on starfleet as it was able to stand up to and hold their own against the Romulans.
26:20 - A side note on investigating the Borg before official first contact: Seven of Nine's parents went searching for the Borg around 15-20 years before they showed up in TNG.
Wjich *is* problematic in itself, _however_ could (by a strech) be ~somehow~ excused by them having discussions with some El-Aurians, who told them about it, or something...? Most certainly, the Federation did *not* know about the borg prior to Q introducing them to it.
That 'is' a low bar :P Rose tinted glasses help us deal with the 'now'. Sad but true though - Still, growing up with Bakula as his series which used the old 60's 'Time Tunnel' concept left some show baggage - same guy, different 'leap'. This leap lasted 5 years.
The questionable actions taken by Captain Archer had far greater ramifications than just the preservation of Earth. The survival of the galaxy or at least a good sized portion of it hinged on the success or failure of the Enterprise and her crew. Had they not succeeded in their mission, hundreds, perhaps thousands of civilizations would have been wiped out in a mass genocide perpetrated by the sphere builders. Weighing these few questionable actions by Archer and his crew against the horrible consequences of failure, his actions are damn near negligible by comparison.
Archer’s actions are pretty tame compared to what would actually happen. Humans are capable of unspeakable brutality to each other, what do you think we would do to a completely separate species that threatened us? Warhammer 40k is a more likely outcome than the UFP.
If Archer and his crew had failed in their mission, even the world of the people from whom he took the warp core would have been destroyed. They would have made it home, only to die when the spheres effects reached their world. This is an example of the Vulcan axiom “The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few”. I would be willing to wager that all these outcomes weighed heavily on Archer’s decision. A hard and seemingly heartless, but ultimately necessary one.
I was one of those who grew up watching TNG irregularly, just because I was the only one in the house interested, and I was too young to really follow a schedule, and didn’t really know about DS9 or Voyager. But Enterprise really rekindled my love of trek and it’s still one of my favorites.
The opening credit montage was a nice twist - although... That theme song was completely mismatched. Even if they couldn't get the rights to use their original plan of a U2 song, one of Trek's iconic threads was the ethereal opening chords. Narration or not, I agree with many that Season 1 should have dealt with the buildup of ship, crew, training, politics, trials/errors, milestones/tragedies of any experimental craft - and ending with the successful launch of the ship into space with a dramatic season-ending cliffhanger with dun dun duuunnn... An alien species... Many of the commentaries and interviews prove that hindsight really is 20/20 - and good learning experience for young up-and-coming Trek producers, writers, and directors. Great episode you have here - 1st time viewer and I look forward to watching others. Keep up the good work.
Great Video! I Started watching Enterprise recently from the beginning and currently up to beginning of Season 3 and its certainly getting better. If I'm being honest its simply that some Characters do feel very much left in the background on occasion. But overall it's a Tad Underrated bit like you mentioned revisinism is upon it so I'm sure it'll be appreciated more! I'm also watching Next Gen, DS9 and Voyager from the beginning. Really need to sleep. And contact my Family!
Enterprise had great potential and was underrated. I just think they need more original stories and more focus on the founding of what would become the Federation. Like more stories about building alliances.
I liked ENTERPRISE more than TNG, DS9, or VOY. One comment regarding how later Trek portrayed the Federation as being a socialist utopia without 'money' : in TOS they used 'credits'. In "Catspaw" DeSalle says, "I'll bet you credits to navy beans we can put a dent in it" and the cost of a tribble is given in credits. Kirk tells both Chekov and Scotty in different episodes that they've "earned their pay for the week" -- which suggests not only that the 'Old Earth calendar' (the Gregorian Calendar) is still being used, in conjunction with the STARDATE system, but that Star Fleet personnel get paid on a weekly basis. In the Kirk-era scenes of the 7th film, Capt. Harriman mentions how the Enterprise-B's tractor-beam unit wouldn't be installed until next "Tuesday" (etc.). How the monetary system in use during TOS times came to be changed to whatever system would be in use in the 24th Century's TNG-era is anyone's guess. But they were still using money during TOS times -- otherwise, it wouldn't make sense for McCoy to suggest being willing to teach Spock about Poker in "The Corbomite Maneuver" since the joke concerns McCoy's desire to win money from Spock, whose unfamiliarity with Poker and 'bluffing' would make the 3D-Chess-playing Vulcan an easy mark, as it takes Earthly emotional qualities to make one a good Poker player.
Enjoyed this retrospective. I enjoyed this series a great deal when it came out. I also enjoyed Farscape, Firefly and the last 4 seasons of SG-i . I was sad that Enterprise ended when it did.
After being alive and saw every Star Trek project up to the end of Enterprise and seeing other amazing space operas; I can say that Enterprise is my favorite Star Trek series. Exactly because it went back to a more honest take on humanity.
I was on active duty in the Army Deployed to Kosovo in 2001 when 9/11 happened, and Enterprise premiered. I came home, but did not fully get to watch the show until after I was AGAIN deployed to Iraq in 2006, when in 2007 my wife bought me the box set of all 4 seasons on DVD at Christmas. I proceeded to watch the series in spurts after that, completing the watch sometime in 2008, BEFORE the Jar Jar Abrams' reboot films. Having been a 5 year old when TOS premiered, and watching TAS on day 1 in 1973 as an 11 yr old, I then watched every incantation of "Trek" right up to the present. I agree with most people that it was not THE BEST Trek show ever (I'm OLD SCHOOL and so it's TOS for me) but I found it to be none the less enjoyable, though somewhat uneven at first, it became better and better as it went along. I'll say it too, It probably should have gone 7 seasons, then it may have rated higher. But to quote someone who once said: "Star Trek is like sex... Even when it's BAD, it's still PRETTY GOOD!!!
Agreed. They decided to do a prequel. Then they must have decided they didn't like the limitations of a prequel. So they added all the Temporal Cold War BS. When they finally let all that go and leaned into the prequel concept in S4, we had a great season. It was just too late.
scott bakula was born to be a star trek captain. way better than sisko and janeway i think. also jolene blalock, as hot as she was, was also underrated with her acting. she was great. i love the show. i blame insurrection and nemesis for being nails in the coffin for the fatigue at the time.
26:49 Heeey, The Expanse! I haven't read the books but personally love it, I think it is a better depiction of future humanity than Star Trek as well...
Host: “Hey- it’s fine the Klingon in TOS had smooth foreheads. It was a different era.” Also host: “My 2024 sensibilities are offended by topics and speech from this early 2000’s show, and I find these “problematic”!”
They obviously put a lot of thought into what things would look like, in the Prime Trek Timeline, in that era. From the uniforms, to the ship, to the attitudes. Everything really fits what I would think the aesthetics/politics of the time would be.
I had no idea the series was looked down on when I started watching its reruns. I thought now and still think it is fantastic. I thought the characters were all great, especially once it hit its stride. I'd like to undo one of the deaths (I assume the spoilers ship has sailed but just in case ...) and then see it continue.
Season 3 finale / Season 4 premiere: I remember reading somewhere that the showrunner got kicked out just before the end of S3, so that stuck-in-the-past finale was meant as an F.U. to his replacement. Apparently the Temporal Cold War was also a favorite of the old showrunner, he wouldn't let it die and just dragged it on and on, so in the S4 premiere the new showrunner took advantage of the situation to get rid of the Temporal Cold War.
13:35 "The frequent portrayal of Vulcan suspicion towards other species, as well as their demeanor in general, rubbed many fans the wrong way during Enterprise's early run." IMO this was because of the infiltration by the Romulans, and their deliberate disruption/corruption of Vulcan culture and society. The Romulans were up in almost everybody's business that had been around for a long while. They did it with the Klingons, why not with the Vulcans - and Andorians? Humans literally popped up out of nowhere too quickly for the Romulans to get insinuated into the humans.
TNG is my favorite. Second would be DS9 or VOY. Next would be either TOS or ENT. That being said, if ENT started like season 3 and progressed the way it was going for 7 seasons it'd probably be second, or maybe even first place
I have always enjoyed any of the iterations of Star Trek. Some series ended too soon, but still it was a great journey into the unknown. That being said, my most favorite series was "The Next Generation" as I am a fan of Patrick Stewart. No one can replace that man and his understanding of the prime directive! Darmok!
Enterprise had real potential to the best Trek series of its time but squandered it with such uneven writing it made even Voyager blush. I like only certain episodes and concepts from both the first two seasons and always felt somewhat annoyed about all the new species of aliens ENT introduced only for them to be nowhere to be found in future series - especially Dr. Phlox species, the Denobulans. They're great and all, but they should have been an existing Trek species, perhaps one mentioned but not seen in TOS or TNG. Season 3 is kick-ass. Archer's very morally gray actions serve to demonstrate that like the theme song goes, "It's been a long road, getting from there to here". He does things no other Star Trek captain ever would, and that makes him flawed, and that makes him believable. In regards to season 4, in many ways it feels like what Enterprise should have been in season 1 without so much of the BS episodes that are wasting everyone's time being TNG or Voyager 2.0. It is a shame the show didn't get a fifth season, exploring the purposed concept that T'pol finds out she is half Romulan and that is why she had such trouble being totally Vulcan and the NX Class getting a refit to make it look more like future Trek hero ships. That said I can understand why ENT was cancelled. People were getting tired of Star Trek retreading ground vs being new and original. I didn't feel that way but I also liked Voyager when it aired and was obvious to its numerous flaws at the time.
@@gloriathomas3245 Yes it did. But it also had some of the worst writing at times too. That said, I still enjoy it very much, & wish we'd gotten a season 5 at least
Great doc keep up the good work ....agree with many of the points ....Season 1 and 2 had its issues but the show was really getting good and interesting in season 4 , wish we really got a couple more seasons to see where it could have gone ...I think the show came out too soon if they held it back a couple more years and then put it on a better network then UPN it would have gotten better ratings ...
I enjoyed Enterprise. I wish we got more seasons. When I was driving truck I delivered a load to Broken Bow Oklahoma and was excited to discover it was a real place
T'Pol has my favorite character arc in all of Star Trek. The only 2 that even come close are Spock and Data (honorable mention to Worf) and I find T'Pol's more carefully constructed and engrossing. Overall Enterprise is my second favorite series withTNG taking top honors... and that may be more due to nostalgia than anything else.
38:40 - "I personally have never understood the reason to have an in-universe explanation for why the Klingons's makeup is different in TOS" - This was already established as not a makeup difference in a DS9 time travel episode, when the human crew doesn't recognize the Klingons and Worf has to point them out. They ask what happened and Worf simply replies something like "we don't like to talk about it". The ENT explanation also then suggests why the TOS movie Klingons have odd-looking forehead ridges, compared to TNG and later: Those are cosmetic restorations, not natural.
I don't think you're right about the TOS movies, but in reference to the DS9 episode, this is a fair point. That said, I guess my issue is also with the fact that they brought it up there at all either, or that Enterprise felt compelled to elaborate on it
@@OrangeRiver It definitely wasn't intended at the time the movies were made, but as someone who watched ENT first when it aired, then later went back to TOS/TNG/etc, then watched the movies - the TOS movie Klingons were different enough from TNG-era, mainly because of the forehead ridges, that at first I wasn't sure they were Klingons.
@@OrangeRiver ENT's explanation helps there too: They managed to stop the augment virus, it only affected a small part of the Klingon Empire. not every Klingon.
I wish it was visually more like TOS…it looked more futuristic than the TOS and it always annoyed me that in TOS they lost lots of red shirts/ crew but enterprise pretty much never lost anybody and being the first in deep space makes zero sense..it played everything so safe, Archer is Mr Nice Guy and except for Trip, Vulcan and doctor …the other characters were sooooo damn boring
I just started watching Star Trek 4 years ago. I started with the new shows as they were released and went back to watch everything in order of release. I just finished Enterprise this week. Until this video, I had no idea it was controversial! I saw loving references to it in Lower Decks and Picard after all. Watching ENT with fresh eyes, I loved it (except the cheesy them song and most of season 3). My biggest issue is that Scott Bakula is clearly a great actor (he did a lot with the safe material they gave him), but the writers didn't make him nearly as interesting and nuanced as every captain in prior shows. This show needed more seasons. It was cancelled just when it hit its stride.
What killed Enterprise was Les Moonves. He had a serious disdain for Sci-fi in general and a serious dislike of Star Trek in particular. The ratings for Enterprise had been increasing for every new season so it's cancellation wasn't a business decision but a personal one. I'm glad Moonves got Metooed and his career permanently ended as he was never more than a two bit character actor who rose to where he was through social interaction rather than merit. I also want to say I was very disappointed in the choice of Scott Bakula as Captain Archer and it is a testament to how great the show was that in spite of Bakula's casting that Enterprise became my second favorite of the Star Trek series, second only to the original series.
I LOVE IT its my 2nd Fav TREK next to TNG the problem with it is the ENDING kinda sad how the last 3 episodes play out but I love it still I HOPE they can bring it back for a 2 part or 3 part movie series to clean it up maybe
My biggest disappointment with Enterprise was actually Mayweather. When I watched the pilot, I found his character concept highly compelling. I especially like that scene where he meets Trip and shows him Enterprise's "sweet spot." I loved the idea of having this first-of-its-kind exploration ship with the crew all filled with wonder and curiosity, and then introducing this character for whom all this is old-hat, and he looks at their mission more in terms of possibilities, opportunities and threats. There was also the potential for a contentious friendship between Trip and Mayweather, one for whom the Enterprise is his baby, and the other who wants to push it to its limits. He could also have had interesting banter with the rest of the crew, such as when they would ask T'pol about some new species, she would give her usual pragmatic response, while Mayweather could sometimes shoot back with some less than pragmatic anecdote. Instead he mostly just sits there, contributing nothing to the story. The wasted potential of that character is such a bummer.
The “Office-style zooms”, as you call them, weren’t a thing yet because the show was just starting at the same time Enterprise was running. Where that comes from is the from two things: a switch to digital video, meaning more portable and procesable equipment, and the popularity of a show called ‘24’ (2001-2010) which made the style popular for TV. Even boring shows like Battlestar Galactica copied it years later.
I agree, even at the time, I recognized that this was a prequel to TNG, B&Bs property....not TOS. It was the link between First Contact and Mission at Farpoint. The ship model even looked like a simplified Ent-D. They admitted it with the finale. TOS was treated by B&B almost as a mistake they wanted to ignore. After "Enterprise", the studio hired Abrams and Bad Robot to revise TOS almost completely. S4 minus the Borg discovery, the finale, and the first 3 episodes was pretty much a prequel to TOS. In any case the Paramount syndication network had ended in a failure as streaming became viable so an expensive show with lackluster ratings was not going to sell on the open market alone. Even reboot TZ that went with it had failed. That's why Discovery strwaming was packaged with another reboot TZ, reboot Magnum, reboot Hawaii 5-O reruns, Evil and additional Good Wife eps. Now Paramount TV has announced closure as a studio after 60 years.
They may have let it limp along as a streaming show, but in 2006 streaming was still low res...and CBS wasn't yet ready....the iPhone was still a year away and tablets weren't common yet.
The Xindi arc was exceptionally good, largely because of great writing. My favourite Star Trek ever. Well worth a re-watch. As a European I just wasn't buying the Nazis liking reptilian aliens schtik that followed into Series 4. The Nazis couldn't even tolerate other humans. I stopped watching.
Yes it is, and especially the first two seasons which a couple of stinkers aside (I'm looking at you, Shuttle pod one) are far, far better than they're given credit for.
Although I knew TOS and have seen some episodes as a child I became a Star Trek fan with TNG at the time of its second run in my country in the late 90s, early 00s. Since then I have re-watched TNG more than 7 times, Voyager at least 3 times, DS9 only once, Enterprise 3 times, all the movies (except JJ bad reboot ones) several times each and recently Strange new worlds. I have even played some of the PC games. Never watched more than a few episodes of TOS and the animated series. Only watched the first episode of Discovery and Picard. Never watched Lower decks etc. Even thought it had some episodes the really pissed me off I still love the Enterprise series, on the other hand although I did watch the whole of DS9 once I never liked it that much to re-watch it and I dont consider it the best (not even close) like others do.
It's the same as the Star Wars prequels. Incredibly mediocre and looks better than it actually is because there is now something worse to compare it to. I don't think Enterprise is awful but it was easily the worst thing in the Star Trek franchise during its initial run. It got hated on a lot back in the day and widespread praise for it only started after Discovery came out. Then we started getting the whole "Maybe it wasn't so bad after all" narrative that we have now. The fourth season of Enterprise IS good but a show with only one good season isn't much to write home about IMO. Maybe it would have been great if it didn't get cancelled but we'll never know.
Definitely underrated. Honestly, this is the series that probably had the most potential. Unfortunately, the execution didn’t always hit the mark. Still, I have a soft spot for Enterprise.
May have to disagree with you. while TOS is still may favorite, and I watched TNG when they aired originally. I have a very hard time rewatching TNG today. While I can rewatch Enterprise over and over again.
I agree about TNG - something about it seems wrong, watching it now. Not including the always unwatchable season 1 - Q was right to put those pompous holier-than-thous on trial
The Illyrians did not join the Federation. They were outlawed by the Federation with consequences that would strike Pike's Number One as she had hidden the fact that she was one.
It was definitely underrated
Enterprise had Shran. That alone makes it worth watching.
Absolutely and it was cancelled just as it hit its stride. At least we have the Pocket novels to continue the story.
Those awkward moments where they oil themselves in the decontamination chamber and we get those closeups always make me cringe so hard. But aside from that it has its moments...
@@silentsigma2917I thought it was a great scene at the time!
@@silentsigma2917 I think every Star Trek show has awkward moments like that.
@@MrSkills123 It is still a great scene!!!!
It took it four seasons to get to "Mediocre". Not good when you are talking about your fifth series.
I'm going to say it... Enterprise was my favorite Star Trek series. For some reason, it really clicked with me. The ships are all perfectly designed (at least the ones that aren't just reused CG models to save time and money), the characters are more raw and human, closer to reality than the utopian crews in other series, and when they finally bothered to get to worldbuilding they did a great job at it. Jeffrey Combs as Captain Sharon - another actor would have been interesting to watch, but Combs put so much character into his portrayal, it really brought the Andorians to life. You notice that Andorians are barely in Star Trek before Enterprise, just showing up in background crowd shots at most, and because of Combs doing such a great job fleshing out the personalities of Andorians, pretty much all Star Trek since then has Andorians front and center.
I agree about the feel of the ship and Jeffrey Combs 100% and I think that the autocorrect from Shran to Sharon is drop dead hilarious 💖 very good.
The next nearest habitable world beyond Vulcan was Andoria. Just maybe that had something to do with it considering THIS was the beginning of Man's exploration of space. We didn't just drive past stuff we knew nothing about to get to more stuff we knew nothing about. :D
Enterprice, like many Star Trek shows before, had a slow first few seasons and then began to raise the quality of the stories and the series in general, as long as the studios don't destroy the internal dynamics that have been created. With so much potential destroyed by the perennial shadow of cancellation, creativity is the first to die along with the commitment of the actors and writers. You can feel the changes and the beginning of the self-created implosion. How sad!
Yeh, it was better then a lot of beef it got.
...but... Favourite? You've watched DS9 right?
Same
The difference between the US 'intervention' in the middle-east, and the Enterprise's excursion into the expanse, is that in the latter case there actually is a weapon of mass destruction, and they're planning on using it. This actually makes a difference.
HA, you're not wrong
Indeed.
I actually largely enjoy the first two seasons. I like the meandering pace and generally the low stakes.
""Do you remember when we used to be explorers?"
I enjoyed the first two seasons, myself, but I found it really went down hill. The writing was never on par with StarGate.
It was great at having low stakes, but making the galaxy feel like a dangerous place.
I loved how nothing was working right yet, and how they were scared of the transporters.
They should have kept TIME TRAVEL out of it ... and done a simple "exploring the Wild West with a wonky wagon" thing.
T'Pol is one of my favorite Vulcans. Although it is true that Vulcans do have emotion and simply choose to suppress it, too many actors allows their emotion to bleed through in their performances. Tim Russ's Tuvok and Jolene Blalock's T'Pol do the best job of showing that struggle to suppress emotions.
@@ArcaneEther 😉😏
You leaving out my boy Leonard Nimoy? Those episodes where he is fighting off Nurse Chappel? The episode where he let slip he was happy to see Kirk alive, then had to bury it deep before McCoy could get off a few shots on him for showing joy?
@@fearisthemind-killernah, he prefers Tim Russ’s absurd Vulcan who CONSTANTLY SHOWS emotion: the catch, he’s the Vulcan with only negative emotions: annoyance, anger, snideness, passive-aggressiveness, condescension, frustration….
@@datacipher Literally lol right now. So true. 🤣
Sad though her eye brows were wrong (not Vulcan enough).
I enjoyed watching this series, alongside with Stargate, Farscape and even Firefly. Early 2000s sci-fi shows were the best during that time.
SG1, SGA. Farscape
So cool that Ben, Claudia were on SG1
I loved SG1 but Firefly is one of the greatest works of all sci-fi imo. But I've heard Farscape is good
Babylon Five!! Don't forget it! 🎉
YES LOVE B5
You forgot to mention Andromeda.
I will never stop thinking of him as Count Bacula.
i'll never quit thinkin of the time he was like "i'm retarded?!"
2nd best joke ever in Trek, a highly trained covert ops Klingon warrior, was taken down by a human farmer.
I do not question the fear of humans Vulcans had.
Yes. For me it was the best enterprise for ages
spec ops are not superhuman, same for klingons.
Look closely at the farmer's belt buckle. Although I cannot identify the raised relief design, the style of under-clipping buckle is typical of military uniforms. I think the farmer is a veteran, possibly with combat experience.
@@SaltyDog-wwrd Just a stylized buckle.
I am sure the Vulcans would have said if he was ex-military.
@@SoloRenegade Compared to a human Klingons are super strong.
I can't speak for other Trek fans, but
I've got faith of the heart
Well, it's certainly been a long road...
@@randy4903 😏
@@ShonnDaylee getting from there to here
@@stevendubin3584 it's been a long time..........
*sticks fingers in ears*
I'm not listening.
Meh, I loved Enterprise. My second favorite Trek series after DS9. Hell, marathon binges of ENT got me through a divorce. Minus the finale, of course, which I refuse to watch.
What finale there was no finale
this is pretty much my opinion on trek as a whole. i take it further and commit the cardinal sin of having the opinion that TNG is thoroughly overrated
It was interesting. It brought a few of the TNG crew on... you can tell they aged.
But it was not nearly up to snuff, as some of the others.
I was a big fan of the Xindi arc.
It was a huge disappointment that this show got cancelled.
The ENT novels fixed the finale: Trip didn't die, they faked his death for a long-term undercover mission. It's still classified in the TNG era, so Riker's holodeck program isn't completely accurate.
Enterprise is definately underrated. It is probably my favorite Star Trek series alongside DS9.
At night, before bed, I alternate between episodes of DS9 and/or Enterprise. There's just something about those two series that keep me coming back, after all these years.
Mine alongside Voyager. Everything since then except Lower Decks has been toilet.
@@ShonnDayleeI do the exact same thing ! When I can’t get to sleep enterpise helps a lot
@@FlatDerrickthis is true , enterprise looks amazing by compareison
@@FlatDerrick Voyager... claiming poor quality of new shows. No comment.
Even though "These are the Voyages" is hated, I wonder if anyone has edited together a Supercut of "The Pegasus" & "These are the Voyages" together into a huge single episode?
Fans were used to Star Trek saying "Here we are! Humans are Perfect!" Enterprise was an uncomfortable hard reminder of just how far we have to go.
We are just finishing watching and discussing it in my ST group and the most frequent discussions have been how different Vulcans are and how hot headed and racist (against Vulcans) Archer is. In my memory Archer is the noblest of Captains. The ST George Washington. But in reality he is highly flawed, which maybe makes him more human
I never saw him as racist as much as I saw his contempt for Vulcan government to manipulate us through well-measured advise, keeping secrets, and trying to get Earth to make the same choices as them - even if it meant subversion. With only a single representative present regularly, that individual took the brunt of his frustration often.
I don't recall Archer being particularly racist toward vulcans. I remember him being pissed off and complaining about the vulcans holding humans back and that's about it.
@@506thLittleberry I didnt think of it like that either, but other people in my group did.
Yeah, I think he was that way because his dad probably played nice. And it pissed him off to see his dad humbled by that not wanting to hurt huma ity out of spite. The only Vulcan he was never like that with was tpol, but only after he was pissed early on with her for communicating with high command behind his back in that one episode. It really was a blanket (I would say almost or justified) racism. He was never once happy when having to deal with them. And even went and found the surak cult on literal Vulcan to solve a plot that directly affected an act of terrorism that resulted in dead humans.
@@thegrayshaws Your group is full of oversensitive idiots. Archer's beef was with Vulcan High Command who had systematically hindered his father's Warp engine research and tried to cancel his mission from day one...if Archer was such a "racist" why he was so eager to go to Vulcan monastery in P'Jem to learn about their culture very early in the series and fought tooth and nail to keep T'Pol on the ship.
I'm 44 and a lifelong Star Trek fan. I watched Enterprise late (about 10 years ago) but it struck a chord with me, to the point I would re-watch its blu-ray set over and over again.. to this day. I really like the first 2 seasons a lot. The third season is my personal favourite and season 4 was great with it's mini arcs.
Enterprise will always jump at the opportunity to put the characters in a cramped and hot room.
I love "Enterprise" and wish it had gone on to 7 seasons. It is better by far in my opinion than any Star Trek that has been made since.
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I would have liked it, but I don't think Braga and Berman could have come up with enough material.
@@nitehawk86 The Reeves-Stevens duo could have. Bringing them onboard was what made the final season especially memorable, helping to tie the show to the TOS-era. It's a shame they cancelled the show right before the timeline would have had the outbreak of the Earth-Romulan War.
Agreed recent iterations just plain suck. Super Super woke to point of distractions. Some white males not stupid or gay are absent. No one is can identify with and what's her face can do no wrong.like captain marvel. Im a Harris voter so people please vote against monster trump
Schran my favorite character
Season 4 was some of the best Trek ive ever seen.
Because it happened after 9/11. Everybody was angry. You could see it on media, hear it in music. We mad e the best with coping
I loved Enterprise. I hated all the time war cr*p but LOVED the in depth explorations of the original Federation races!
Modern trek makes Enterprise look great
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That`s rather an insult. Modern trek makes anything great
Yeah yeah In the Past everything was better. Gras was greener, Cookies were tastier, Rain was wetter...
@@Euricianplotting was sharper, pacing was better, dialogue was smarter. Yep, it seems ST was better in the past.
@@rac1061 Plotting was smarter? You need to rewatch TOS and TNG especially.
I have often said, Enterprise is the Star Trek show with the most untapped potential. Small changes here and there would have elevated it significantly. Even taking it as it was though, I still enjoyed it, and unlike some fans I liked the first two seasons with some exception of course.
What’s a few tweaks you would have made?
@@chrischreative2245 1. Fix all the dialog and canon breaking errors (ie: 4 days to Qonos, Ferengi, etc). 2. Give Travis and Hoshi more character development. 3. Make the ship look more like the Conestoga, less like the Akira. 4. Lean into the earlier tech and time period and make use of those limitations rather than treat it like TNG-DS9-VOY. Make it more about humanity getting out there for the first time. 5. Earth Romulan war.
There is more thoughts, but those are what pop into my mind at the moment.
@@CaptainJonathan I agree with most of that. I def prefer Star Trek eras before they “figured everything out” and can just come up with things. Like archer saying when viewing Columbia that “we needed those weapons and a lot more”
The fall of UPN spelled doom for Enterprise. After UPN failed, they hired a Trek hater that CEO and cancelled it after season 4. What a slap in the face to all of the actors especially Bakula! Fast forward to now and they're still pushing their crap as "Paramont Plus".
It's really my favourite of all Star Trek series. I felt more engagement with the characters and stories. And I'm a season 3/Xindi arc super fan.
I really wish it had continued, I'd love to have seen the refit nx with the secondary hull that Eaves designed in action, maybe the planning or construction of the daedalus class, more of the other ships in the fleet like the warp delta and intrepid class. It would've been awesome to see the beginnings or events of the Romulan war and they could've done more with the Klingons seeing as they'd probably start to focus more on starfleet as it was able to stand up to and hold their own against the Romulans.
26:20 - A side note on investigating the Borg before official first contact: Seven of Nine's parents went searching for the Borg around 15-20 years before they showed up in TNG.
Wjich *is* problematic in itself, _however_ could (by a strech) be ~somehow~ excused by them having discussions with some El-Aurians, who told them about it, or something...?
Most certainly, the Federation did *not* know about the borg prior to Q introducing them to it.
It's definitely underrated...compared to the nonsense we've had the last 15 years
That 'is' a low bar :P Rose tinted glasses help us deal with the 'now'. Sad but true though - Still, growing up with Bakula as his series which used the old 60's 'Time Tunnel' concept left some show baggage - same guy, different 'leap'. This leap lasted 5 years.
The questionable actions taken by Captain Archer had far greater ramifications than just the preservation of Earth. The survival of the galaxy or at least a good sized portion of it hinged on the success or failure of the Enterprise and her crew. Had they not succeeded in their mission, hundreds, perhaps thousands of civilizations would have been wiped out in a mass genocide perpetrated by the sphere builders. Weighing these few questionable actions by Archer and his crew against the horrible consequences of failure, his actions are damn near negligible by comparison.
Archer’s actions are pretty tame compared to what would actually happen. Humans are capable of unspeakable brutality to each other, what do you think we would do to a completely separate species that threatened us? Warhammer 40k is a more likely outcome than the UFP.
I'm surprised Archer didn't have major mental issues by the end of the Xindi threat. I expected major bouts of PTSD.
*You must NEVER think this way.*
If Archer and his crew had failed in their mission, even the world of the people from whom he took the warp core would have been destroyed. They would have made it home, only to die when the spheres effects reached their world. This is an example of the Vulcan axiom “The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few”. I would be willing to wager that all these outcomes weighed heavily on Archer’s decision. A hard and seemingly heartless, but ultimately necessary one.
Who was Porthos played by? Give the dog/dogs credit they are actors too, lol.
I was one of those who grew up watching TNG irregularly, just because I was the only one in the house interested, and I was too young to really follow a schedule, and didn’t really know about DS9 or Voyager. But Enterprise really rekindled my love of trek and it’s still one of my favorites.
The opening credit montage was a nice twist - although... That theme song was completely mismatched. Even if they couldn't get the rights to use their original plan of a U2 song, one of Trek's iconic threads was the ethereal opening chords. Narration or not, I agree with many that Season 1 should have dealt with the buildup of ship, crew, training, politics, trials/errors, milestones/tragedies of any experimental craft - and ending with the successful launch of the ship into space with a dramatic season-ending cliffhanger with dun dun duuunnn... An alien species... Many of the commentaries and interviews prove that hindsight really is 20/20 - and good learning experience for young up-and-coming Trek producers, writers, and directors. Great episode you have here - 1st time viewer and I look forward to watching others. Keep up the good work.
Great Video! I Started watching Enterprise recently from the beginning and currently up to beginning of Season 3 and its certainly getting better. If I'm being honest its simply that some Characters do feel very much left in the background on occasion. But overall it's a Tad Underrated bit like you mentioned revisinism is upon it so I'm sure it'll be appreciated more! I'm also watching Next Gen, DS9 and Voyager from the beginning. Really need to sleep. And contact my Family!
I always thought Enterprise should have been the Lewis and Clark expedition in space.
Enterprise had great potential and was underrated. I just think they need more original stories and more focus on the founding of what would become the Federation. Like more stories about building alliances.
Totally. 👍🏻👍🏻
I liked ENTERPRISE more than TNG, DS9, or VOY.
One comment regarding how later Trek portrayed the Federation as being a socialist utopia without 'money' : in TOS they used 'credits'. In "Catspaw" DeSalle says, "I'll bet you credits to navy beans we can put a dent in it" and the cost of a tribble is given in credits. Kirk tells both Chekov and Scotty in different episodes that they've "earned their pay for the week" -- which suggests not only that the 'Old Earth calendar' (the Gregorian Calendar) is still being used, in conjunction with the STARDATE system, but that Star Fleet personnel get paid on a weekly basis. In the Kirk-era scenes of the 7th film, Capt. Harriman mentions how the Enterprise-B's tractor-beam unit wouldn't be installed until next "Tuesday" (etc.).
How the monetary system in use during TOS times came to be changed to whatever system would be in use in the 24th Century's TNG-era is anyone's guess. But they were still using money during TOS times -- otherwise, it wouldn't make sense for McCoy to suggest being willing to teach Spock about Poker in "The Corbomite Maneuver" since the joke concerns McCoy's desire to win money from Spock, whose unfamiliarity with Poker and 'bluffing' would make the 3D-Chess-playing Vulcan an easy mark, as it takes Earthly emotional qualities to make one a good Poker player.
And all those poker games in TNG - were they playing for money or for some kind of platonic ideal?
Season 1,2 and 4 were super!!
I enjoyed Enterprise FAR more than DS9 or VOY.
I binged Enterprise three years ago. It gets better and better every decade.
Enjoyed this retrospective. I enjoyed this series a great deal when it came out. I also enjoyed Farscape, Firefly and the last 4 seasons of SG-i . I was sad that Enterprise ended when it did.
I enjoyed it until they involved time travel. The show could have gone on for like 7 seasons had it not been for that trope.
After being alive and saw every Star Trek project up to the end of Enterprise and seeing other amazing space operas; I can say that Enterprise is my favorite Star Trek series. Exactly because it went back to a more honest take on humanity.
I was on active duty in the Army Deployed to Kosovo in 2001 when 9/11 happened, and Enterprise premiered. I came home, but did not fully get to watch the show until after I was AGAIN deployed to Iraq in 2006, when in 2007 my wife bought me the box set of all 4 seasons on DVD at Christmas. I proceeded to watch the series in spurts after that, completing the watch sometime in 2008, BEFORE the Jar Jar Abrams' reboot films. Having been a 5 year old when TOS premiered, and watching TAS on day 1 in 1973 as an 11 yr old, I then watched every incantation of "Trek" right up to the present. I agree with most people that it was not THE BEST Trek show ever (I'm OLD SCHOOL and so it's TOS for me) but I found it to be none the less enjoyable, though somewhat uneven at first, it became better and better as it went along. I'll say it too, It probably should have gone 7 seasons, then it may have rated higher. But to quote someone who once said: "Star Trek is like sex... Even when it's BAD, it's still PRETTY GOOD!!!
Enterprise HAD a great concept ... but then they had to include the stupid time war.
Agreed. They decided to do a prequel. Then they must have decided they didn't like the limitations of a prequel. So they added all the Temporal Cold War BS. When they finally let all that go and leaned into the prequel concept in S4, we had a great season. It was just too late.
scott bakula was born to be a star trek captain. way better than sisko and janeway i think. also jolene blalock, as hot as she was, was also underrated with her acting. she was great. i love the show. i blame insurrection and nemesis for being nails in the coffin for the fatigue at the time.
Major interactions with alien species that were never mentioned in any of the other series.
26:49 Heeey, The Expanse!
I haven't read the books but personally love it, I think it is a better depiction of future humanity than Star Trek as well...
Host: “Hey- it’s fine the Klingon in TOS had smooth foreheads. It was a different era.”
Also host: “My 2024 sensibilities are offended by topics and speech from this early 2000’s show, and I find these “problematic”!”
Yeah that's totally not a false equivalence (and did I ever even use the term "offensive" at all in this video? I think not)
I really liked the set design for Enterprise.
They obviously put a lot of thought into what things would look like, in the Prime Trek Timeline, in that era. From the uniforms, to the ship, to the attitudes. Everything really fits what I would think the aesthetics/politics of the time would be.
I wouldn't get to bothered by the moral questions that seem dated now, we will either become moral again or die out as a species.
I had no idea the series was looked down on when I started watching its reruns. I thought now and still think it is fantastic. I thought the characters were all great, especially once it hit its stride. I'd like to undo one of the deaths (I assume the spoilers ship has sailed but just in case ...) and then see it continue.
Season 3 finale / Season 4 premiere: I remember reading somewhere that the showrunner got kicked out just before the end of S3, so that stuck-in-the-past finale was meant as an F.U. to his replacement. Apparently the Temporal Cold War was also a favorite of the old showrunner, he wouldn't let it die and just dragged it on and on, so in the S4 premiere the new showrunner took advantage of the situation to get rid of the Temporal Cold War.
Temporal Cold War wasn't the show's only problem, but it was definitely its biggest for me by far.
13:35 "The frequent portrayal of Vulcan suspicion towards other species, as well as their demeanor in general, rubbed many fans the wrong way during Enterprise's early run."
IMO this was because of the infiltration by the Romulans, and their deliberate disruption/corruption of Vulcan culture and society. The Romulans were up in almost everybody's business that had been around for a long while. They did it with the Klingons, why not with the Vulcans - and Andorians? Humans literally popped up out of nowhere too quickly for the Romulans to get insinuated into the humans.
TNG is my favorite. Second would be DS9 or VOY. Next would be either TOS or ENT.
That being said, if ENT started like season 3 and progressed the way it was going for 7 seasons it'd probably be second, or maybe even first place
I have always enjoyed any of the iterations of Star Trek. Some series ended too soon, but still it was a great journey into the unknown. That being said, my most favorite series was "The Next Generation" as I am a fan of Patrick Stewart. No one can replace that man and his understanding of the prime directive! Darmok!
45:38 trip Tucker still lives
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Enterprise had real potential to the best Trek series of its time but squandered it with such uneven writing it made even Voyager blush. I like only certain episodes and concepts from both the first two seasons and always felt somewhat annoyed about all the new species of aliens ENT introduced only for them to be nowhere to be found in future series - especially Dr. Phlox species, the Denobulans. They're great and all, but they should have been an existing Trek species, perhaps one mentioned but not seen in TOS or TNG.
Season 3 is kick-ass. Archer's very morally gray actions serve to demonstrate that like the theme song goes, "It's been a long road, getting from there to here". He does things no other Star Trek captain ever would, and that makes him flawed, and that makes him believable.
In regards to season 4, in many ways it feels like what Enterprise should have been in season 1 without so much of the BS episodes that are wasting everyone's time being TNG or Voyager 2.0. It is a shame the show didn't get a fifth season, exploring the purposed concept that T'pol finds out she is half Romulan and that is why she had such trouble being totally Vulcan and the NX Class getting a refit to make it look more like future Trek hero ships. That said I can understand why ENT was cancelled. People were getting tired of Star Trek retreading ground vs being new and original. I didn't feel that way but I also liked Voyager when it aired and was obvious to its numerous flaws at the time.
Enterprise had some of the best writing ever for Star Trek show
@@gloriathomas3245 Yes it did. But it also had some of the worst writing at times too.
That said, I still enjoy it very much, & wish we'd gotten a season 5 at least
??? Enterprise had 5 seasons???
Great doc keep up the good work ....agree with many of the points ....Season 1 and 2 had its issues but the show was really getting good and interesting in season 4 , wish we really got a couple more seasons to see where it could have gone ...I think the show came out too soon if they held it back a couple more years and then put it on a better network then UPN it would have gotten better ratings ...
Since 2009 (J.J.) the real Trek just gets better, exponentially speaking.
I enjoyed Enterprise. I wish we got more seasons. When I was driving truck I delivered a load to Broken Bow Oklahoma and was excited to discover it was a real place
T'Pol has my favorite character arc in all of Star Trek. The only 2 that even come close are Spock and Data (honorable mention to Worf) and I find T'Pol's more carefully constructed and engrossing. Overall Enterprise is my second favorite series withTNG taking top honors... and that may be more due to nostalgia than anything else.
38:40 - "I personally have never understood the reason to have an in-universe explanation for why the Klingons's makeup is different in TOS" - This was already established as not a makeup difference in a DS9 time travel episode, when the human crew doesn't recognize the Klingons and Worf has to point them out. They ask what happened and Worf simply replies something like "we don't like to talk about it". The ENT explanation also then suggests why the TOS movie Klingons have odd-looking forehead ridges, compared to TNG and later: Those are cosmetic restorations, not natural.
I don't think you're right about the TOS movies, but in reference to the DS9 episode, this is a fair point. That said, I guess my issue is also with the fact that they brought it up there at all either, or that Enterprise felt compelled to elaborate on it
@@OrangeRiver It definitely wasn't intended at the time the movies were made, but as someone who watched ENT first when it aired, then later went back to TOS/TNG/etc, then watched the movies - the TOS movie Klingons were different enough from TNG-era, mainly because of the forehead ridges, that at first I wasn't sure they were Klingons.
Strange New Worlds Klingons looks like TNG era Klingons. It's obviously the makeup lol
@@OrangeRiver ENT's explanation helps there too: They managed to stop the augment virus, it only affected a small part of the Klingon Empire. not every Klingon.
The episode about Malcom Reid’s birthday was hilarious, (as an Englishman) it seemed perfectly accurate.
ENT is to this day my absolute favorite
I wish it was visually more like TOS…it looked more futuristic than the TOS and it always annoyed me that in TOS they lost lots of red shirts/ crew but enterprise pretty much never lost anybody and being the first in deep space makes zero sense..it played everything so safe, Archer is Mr Nice Guy and except for Trip, Vulcan and doctor …the other characters were sooooo damn boring
I just started watching Star Trek 4 years ago. I started with the new shows as they were released and went back to watch everything in order of release. I just finished Enterprise this week. Until this video, I had no idea it was controversial! I saw loving references to it in Lower Decks and Picard after all. Watching ENT with fresh eyes, I loved it (except the cheesy them song and most of season 3). My biggest issue is that Scott Bakula is clearly a great actor (he did a lot with the safe material they gave him), but the writers didn't make him nearly as interesting and nuanced as every captain in prior shows. This show needed more seasons. It was cancelled just when it hit its stride.
The poor writing was the show's biggest weakness.
What killed Enterprise was Les Moonves. He had a serious disdain for Sci-fi in general and a serious dislike of Star Trek in particular. The ratings for Enterprise had been increasing for every new season so it's cancellation wasn't a business decision but a personal one. I'm glad Moonves got Metooed and his career permanently ended as he was never more than a two bit character actor who rose to where he was through social interaction rather than merit. I also want to say I was very disappointed in the choice of Scott Bakula as Captain Archer and it is a testament to how great the show was that in spite of Bakula's casting that Enterprise became my second favorite of the Star Trek series, second only to the original series.
I LOVE IT its my 2nd Fav TREK next to TNG the problem with it is the ENDING kinda sad how the last 3 episodes play out but I love it still I HOPE they can bring it back for a 2 part or 3 part movie series to clean it up maybe
Flox didn't invent the Agony Booth. Major Reid, (Lt. Reid) did.
Ah yeah, good catch!
I like Enterprise. It was cancelled too soon. I just hate the theme song and the finale.
😂that song stinks! Do you remember when they spead it up?
@@robertfrancois6064 I liked the theme okay until the sped up/remix version came along; then it just sucked
My biggest disappointment with Enterprise was actually Mayweather. When I watched the pilot, I found his character concept highly compelling. I especially like that scene where he meets Trip and shows him Enterprise's "sweet spot." I loved the idea of having this first-of-its-kind exploration ship with the crew all filled with wonder and curiosity, and then introducing this character for whom all this is old-hat, and he looks at their mission more in terms of possibilities, opportunities and threats. There was also the potential for a contentious friendship between Trip and Mayweather, one for whom the Enterprise is his baby, and the other who wants to push it to its limits. He could also have had interesting banter with the rest of the crew, such as when they would ask T'pol about some new species, she would give her usual pragmatic response, while Mayweather could sometimes shoot back with some less than pragmatic anecdote. Instead he mostly just sits there, contributing nothing to the story. The wasted potential of that character is such a bummer.
Is this Shives ?
I still think Enterprise was one of the best ST series. I don't care what nerds think.
The “Office-style zooms”, as you call them, weren’t a thing yet because the show was just starting at the same time Enterprise was running. Where that comes from is the from two things: a switch to digital video, meaning more portable and procesable equipment, and the popularity of a show called ‘24’ (2001-2010) which made the style popular for TV. Even boring shows like Battlestar Galactica copied it years later.
Mans took that comment SO literally
Enterprise is one of the Trek shows I enjoyed the most.
So much missed potential in this show but I still like it.
Was it more missed potential than Voyager?
enterprise ruled. i love the weirdness of some of the episodes a lot.
I absolutely LOVED Enterprise!
Best of all new series, IMO.
The ship barely works, we're the worst at space exploration, and Vulcans are dirty AF. I freaking love Enterprise.
I agree, even at the time, I recognized that this was a prequel to TNG, B&Bs property....not TOS. It was the link between First Contact and Mission at Farpoint. The ship model even looked like a simplified Ent-D. They admitted it with the finale.
TOS was treated by B&B almost as a mistake they wanted to ignore.
After "Enterprise", the studio hired Abrams and Bad Robot to revise TOS almost completely.
S4 minus the Borg discovery, the finale, and the first 3 episodes was pretty much a prequel to TOS.
In any case the Paramount syndication network had ended in a failure as streaming became viable so an expensive show with lackluster ratings was not going to sell on the open market alone. Even reboot TZ that went with it had failed.
That's why Discovery strwaming was packaged with another reboot TZ, reboot Magnum, reboot Hawaii 5-O reruns, Evil and additional Good Wife eps.
Now Paramount TV has announced closure as a studio after 60 years.
They may have let it limp along as a streaming show, but in 2006 streaming was still low res...and CBS wasn't yet ready....the iPhone was still a year away and tablets weren't common yet.
I really liked _Enterprise_ ... Taken from us too soon.
As I started watching it, I thought it was second ONLY to TOS. As I watched season five, I changed my mind. It was the best Star Trek series.
Yup, very underrated!
It was definitely underrated. It was fundamentally flawed in some ways, but had some great stories.
Star Trek has always examined the fullness of the human condition, including the things you are uncomfortable with.
The Xindi arc was exceptionally good, largely because of great writing. My favourite Star Trek ever. Well worth a re-watch. As a European I just wasn't buying the Nazis liking reptilian aliens schtik that followed into Series 4. The Nazis couldn't even tolerate other humans. I stopped watching.
Yes it is, and especially the first two seasons which a couple of stinkers aside (I'm looking at you, Shuttle pod one) are far, far better than they're given credit for.
Although I knew TOS and have seen some episodes as a child I became a Star Trek fan with TNG at the time of its second run in my country in the late 90s, early 00s. Since then I have re-watched TNG more than 7 times, Voyager at least 3 times, DS9 only once, Enterprise 3 times, all the movies (except JJ bad reboot ones) several times each and recently Strange new worlds. I have even played some of the PC games. Never watched more than a few episodes of TOS and the animated series. Only watched the first episode of Discovery and Picard. Never watched Lower decks etc.
Even thought it had some episodes the really pissed me off I still love the Enterprise series, on the other hand although I did watch the whole of DS9 once I never liked it that much to re-watch it and I dont consider it the best (not even close) like others do.
I have been a trucker since I was 8 years old, and Enterprise is my favorite Star Trek Captain Archer is my captain and I cried when it got canceled😢
34:00 i actually think season 4 was the worst season. truly surprised people think its the best
It has lots of moments that I love, but I'll admit, it also has lots of "Oof" moments, yeah 😅
Enterprise was my favourite series in Trek. Just saying.
It's the same as the Star Wars prequels. Incredibly mediocre and looks better than it actually is because there is now something worse to compare it to. I don't think Enterprise is awful but it was easily the worst thing in the Star Trek franchise during its initial run. It got hated on a lot back in the day and widespread praise for it only started after Discovery came out. Then we started getting the whole "Maybe it wasn't so bad after all" narrative that we have now. The fourth season of Enterprise IS good but a show with only one good season isn't much to write home about IMO. Maybe it would have been great if it didn't get cancelled but we'll never know.
I want my Andorians to having moving antenna. Get it together Nu-Trek!
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Definitely underrated. Honestly, this is the series that probably had the most potential. Unfortunately, the execution didn’t always hit the mark. Still, I have a soft spot for Enterprise.
Star Trek without the Prime Directive!? Awesome!
They actually did have Prime Directive.
@@TheRezro My apologies, I meant Starfleet Command General Order 1.
one of my favorite star trek series. i don't care what people think, it holds up with the best of trek.
May have to disagree with you. while TOS is still may favorite, and I watched TNG when they aired originally. I have a very hard time rewatching TNG today. While I can rewatch Enterprise over and over again.
I agree about TNG - something about it seems wrong, watching it now. Not including the always unwatchable season 1 - Q was right to put those pompous holier-than-thous on trial
The Illyrians did not join the Federation. They were outlawed by the Federation with consequences that would strike Pike's Number One as she had hidden the fact that she was one.
Illyria itself did join the Federation, although the "terms and conditions" made its "membership" status rather unique
I loved this show and was heartbroken when it was prematurely canceled. 😢
Enterprise was a really good series.