Slipping an Airplane, Descend like an elevator while having fun and shortening your approach...
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- Опубликовано: 3 июн 2024
- Whether you have flaps or not, slipping is an incredibly effective way to increase your descent rate, without increasing your airspeed. Slipping is also a great way to tighten your approach, or help you make that field in an emergency. One day when the Stearman bug bites ya, you'll have to slip for the simple reason it's the only way to see while landing!! There are sideslips, (used for crosswind landings) and there are forward slips, (shown in this video) both fun, both safe, both flown pretty much the same way. I wanted to make a video using real time GPS data with ground overlays to show actual data how well these work. Slipping is one of the maneuvers I see Private Pilots do for their initial training, but then they rarely ever revisit them until it's Flight Review time etc. I want to make it clear, if you NEED to slip every approach at your typical GA Airport, you need to work on energy management but if you routinely fly in and out of small grass strips with obstacles, slipping very well be part of every approach. This video isn't a "How to", it's more of a "why you should". I will make another video on exactly how to slip safely but first I want to demonstrate why you would want to.
0:00 Intro
0:39 Brief Discussion about slips
1:15 Hand Propping
3:06 Takeoff
4:30 First Approach (no Slip)
7:48 Second Approach While Slipping
9:58 Slipping from 1,000ft on Final
12:20 Full Slip Directly to rwy from Abeam Numbers
14:50 Baby Slip back at Flying W 
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I’ve slipped a C-5 (660,000 lbs) on a tactical approach into a special ops field first night of Gulf War II. It was a better option than going around. Works great.
I bet that thing drops like a bag of Lead 😂
Slipped no different than a Cubby.
Never underestimate the willingness of a military pilot to just go for it, if mission must be met. Or if they want to fly a helo under the jungle canopy because they, "don't think troops should have to walk so much." Of course, those were Kiwi pilots and they are certifiably crazy.
@@FamilyManMoving Only Mild Maneuvering Pilots suck on forward slips. Military are Hard Maneuvering Pilots. No fannies allowed there. Vietnam Era Pilot.
MAGA
You kick pedals better than most - thats a perfect airplane.
Great cinematography, narration, and technical details. Please post more!
Thank you!
Joe what Mike cover do you use on your headset and what kind of connections do you use to you re wording device ? iPhone recording ? Go pro ? Thanks nice videos!
There is little background noise on your mike that’s why I ask?
I use a tighter pattern on the premise, that when the engine does quit, I’ll be plenty close enough to land on a smooth runway…it requires slipping on every approach, so much so that I find a normal powered approach leaves me a little squeamish especially with obstacles like trees and power lines just 20’-50’ below my gear!
I’m the same way. Could never understand some of these huge patterns…
Agreed. It is a far safer pattern to keep it close and high and drop in like a rock. If you’re too far out and uh oh there you are.
When I was a 5 hour student, my instructor showed me how to slip - cool I thought. A few howlers later I screwed up and turned base right over the end of the runway. “What are you going to do now?!”my instructor yelled at me (he was not a nice man). I looked at him and said, “Watch THIS!” I jammed my left foot down as I threw the control yoke right and we dropped like a rock, landing with plenty of runway to spare. I was SO proud of myself.
I was taught how to slip in a glider. It works just as well as it does in your Cub.
I’d
Imagine it’s really important in a glider where you have no options of a second approach?
@@Bananasssssssssyeah, “go around” is the last thing you want to hear.
01:52 "most Airbus pilots don't even realize airplane has a rudder" Lol, made my day!
Edit: Highly valuable video and rear spot view source dazzled me! Invisible rod extending from tail wheel?
😂😂😂
Not all Airbus pilots are the same
LOVE this, Joe! After 350+ hours of Stearman flying, you get pretty comfortable with slips. Very important skill, IMO, regardless of airplane type (GA anyway)…but especially for taildraggers. I practice slips ALL th time and tell my students, “You never know when you’ll need one”…and regardless, they’re just so much darned fun! Case in point this week…I accompanied the new owner of my 7ECA from FL to OH. After some challenging flying due to lots of convective activity and trying to avoid cells, we’re approaching our interim destination in rural GA right before dark. Straight in approach to a grass strip because light is failing fast. Over the trees I realise the optical illusion has me 600’ higher than I thought (landing over 100’ pines!). Instant ADM needed…go around and try again, or maximum slip to land within the available 3000’. No brainer, no stress…slipped and landed within 1200 feet. Student was super impressed, hosts at the airpark thought I was just showing off. Whatever - it was a piece of cake because I’ve done so many. Routinely slip right down to the runway, as you demonstrate. Good, timely practice for me…I’m buying a Waco YMF-5, and like the Stearman, there is zero forward visibility. If you want to land that thing safely, your only option is a slip. Happy flying my friend…seems you really know how to have fun! My Stearman was based in Van Sant for many years, btw, and was George Taylor’s personal airplane in the 80s (his first restoration). Nice part of the world…except for January and February 🤣
Thanks Gareth!! I only have a few hours in a Stearman but working on getting more!!
Great story! I was on my Commercial Pilot check ride in a Cessna 182 with a check pilot who also owned the airplane. He pulled back the throttle and said "you just lost your engine, what are you gonna do?" He had put me right over a crop duster strip so I said "I'm landing right down there." I made my approach but was high even with full flaps so I put the 182 into a steep slip and it started sinking like the Titanic! I glanced over to the check pilot and he was white as a ghost and braced for impact. I crossed the threshold, went out of the slip and just as I was about to touch down he applied full power and told me to climb out. I wondered why he didn't take over if he was concerned but all he said was he didn't know you could slip a heavy 182 with full flaps! I passed the check ride. I had lots of tail dragger time so it was a no brainer as far as I was concerned.
👍9N1, my happy place!
@@Bananasssssssss Where are you flying the Stearman?
Great video! The side slip is unfortunately overlooked by many. Thanks for bringing this subject to light.
Thank you!
Loved it thanks Joe. Beautifully captured and produced. Really appreciate all the effort you put in.
I performed a couple of precautionary forced landings (practice engine out) with my CFI in the cub the other day. It was near impossible to land on target without the aid of slipping
Thanks! Appreciate that! And love to hear that you practice em!
Fun and informative! I rarely land without slipping as my planes don't have flaps and there are obstructions at either end of the grass strip I fly from. As you say - they are useful but they're also a lot of fun.
Still slips feel scary for me, maybe because I rarely do them. Will start practising them every time I fly from now on. Thank you!
I felt the same way! very common. It just feels so awkward at first
Totally agree. When I first tried slipping, it felt like flying a stoned eagle 😂 But the more you do them the more fun they get. 😁
When I learned to fly a Citabria the instructor had to teach me how to slip. I had never done one in a 152 because it had flaps, and that instructor never showed me how to slip. That was in 1980. Years later I gently slipped a B727. It can be done. And if you think about it, you're almost slipping in an Airbus when you go to de crab during a strong crosswind landing. You're putting in L aileron for example, while kicking the right rudder. You're just doing it more gently and keeping the longitudinal axis of the jet pointed directly down the runway as opposed to flying it sideways. And of course, you need to be LOW enough that the normal law will allow you to do so. But, being able to slip well is a skill that can help you in all airplanes. For example, I've heard of guys on fire slipping to keep the smoke away from the windscreen so they can see the runway. Very nice vid. Jealous old man here wishing you well. I'd love to have access to a cub and a grass strip.
Thanks for
The insight! And jealous you got to fly an727!
It was awesome. I would have flown it a lot longer had we not parked them. Some of the most rewarding flying I've ever done and the only plane I ever saw 400 knots indicated in. The ones with the light ZFW as I recall would really scoot. BOS-IAD 1999.@@Bananasssssssss
Great video, Joe...👍
About to solo. Was out with my instructor and hadn’t really done a slip yet so when I came in high I tried my first. Greased her (the cub) in, taxied off the runway, reset the trim and carb heat, and then changed my pants😂 it was fun but boy did it feel crazy. Finally got the hang of it. Loved this video keep up the great content!
Haha so much fun!
Amazing photography.
Best videos on the internet. Thanks Joe!
Wow, thanks!
Such a great lesson. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
Nice job Joe.
Thank you!
Good work, Joe!!
Thank you!!
Really enjoy your videos -- great aviation insights, great video work, and love the views of rural NJ. I fly a Cessna 180 -- the tail wheel techniques are cool to watch from the tail view. One comment on slips burned into me -- keep an eye on airspeed. Don't allow the nose to get high -- stalls at low altitude are tough.
Keep 'em coming.
Yep. But you don’t need to over do it. One CFI had me slipping with full flaps at 95 knots in an Archer because “the air speed isn’t accurate in a slip”. I later took the same plane up to altitude and did a few full flaps slips while gradually pulling the nose up. At just under 55 knots I thought *maybe* I felt the high wing starting to drop a bit so I stopped the slip. Now I feel perfectly safe slipping it at 65-70 rather than 95.
Awesome how confidently you fly that plane like your taking a walk.
I go out to Allen's and enjoy watching you enjoy your mornings.
Thanks ! Wave me down and I’ll take ya up
Slipping a great video in Joe! I was taught to slip in a 152 during my student days & use it fairly often. A great maneouvre!
Thank you!!!
Cool Joe....Brazil show u
Love slipping. Trim for 60, crank 'er over and let the air out. Great for clearing the 50' tree nearly on centerline not quite 700 feet from the numbers (25 at 9N1). Airnav says 17/1 glideslope, and 25 is a 5% uphill. Interesting challenge. It's flat unobstructed runways that unnerve me 😅!
My A.C. may or may not have slipped the KC-135 on short final as a demo when I asked if the 135 could be slipped. I may or may not have been the Boom Operator on that flight and I may or may not have been nervous.
I agree, slips are a very effective tool and a skill that should be mastered to increase pilot options/safety in a variety of situations. I plan to practice them when I get my flight training and teach them to my students once I am a cfi.
Very nice.
Great, great instructional video. Instrument overlays were excellent. My CFI (and flight school) taught and emphasized that slips (especially full on an app when your high), as you said several times, are an essential piloting skill. Thanks as always Joe!
Thanks Jeff! Appreciate the feedback!!
Very good video my friend
Thank you! Much appreciated!
Man that is one of the sweetest videos I’ve seen!! Sick!
I definitely have been under utilizing slips on my J3! Do you worry about getting to slow/uncoordinated? I think that is why I am maybe too shy slipping it… awesome video!!
If you ever came to NC I would love to fly with you and get some tricks!!
Thank you! really appreciate that!. Whats nice about a slip is unlike a Skid which will rally bite yeah without any indication, a Slip will let ya know when you are getting too slow. you'll lose Elevator authority and feel a pretty good buffeting there.
It’s kind of scary and uncomfortable since you’re doing full rudder in one direction and a lot of aileron in the other. You just have to make sure you don’t stall or you going for a spin. Remember your slipstream changes so your airspeed going to appear to be a lot slower than you really are. If you tip the nose down you’re going to pick up a lot of airspeed as you straighten out.
The beauty of a slip is that your higher wing is blocked and will lose lift first. If it loses lift, you'll likely pull out of the slip and return to wings level.
If you're skidding in the turn, then now your lower wing is blocked and will lose lift first under an increased AoA. Because that lower wing will stall first, your plane cannot return to wings level and instead you'll go over into a spin.
This is why it's so important to understand the difference between slips and skids and how useful a slip can be compared to how dangerous a skid will be.
7ac champ I learned in was a great slipper!
Love your work!
I’m not looking to make content, but just for rewatching my flights, how do you integrate the flight gauges into your videos?
👋🏻 from Gimli Manitoba. I fly a Kitfox and slipping can be an essential skill.
I hear they are great planes!
Doing most of my primary training in a 65hp Luscombe, slipping was a staple of the pattern. Way shorter approach, great way to drop altitude, but in a lot of airplanes, it gives a much better view of the touchdown point!
Great point! Especially in Stearmans & Pitts etc I flew my friends 85HP Luscombe and if it wasn’t for slipping I’d have no shot at not landing long and fast, lol
Thank You
Great videos as usual Joe! Thanks for sharing. If you had to choose a first plane for a beginner is a J3 a good choice or would recommend something newer? I dream of owning a 1940-1943 J3 or L4 but I often wonder if I would be better of with something like an ultralight to start.
"the two useless things in aviation are the runway behind you and the altitude above you"
And *_FUEL_* in the *_TRUCK!!!_*
Ain’t that the truth!!!!!
In Brazil we´ve a similar plane Cub...call Paulistinha....I had flown one in 2009
Love your videos! They help me out a lot in my cub!
What software and equipment do you use for the GPS data and how did you get your flight path overlayed on the map?
Thank you!! Appreciate that! The GPS data comes from the GoPro/Insta360 Camera and the flight path is thE KML file from Foreflight
The A300 slips just as nicely as my Pitts did. Used to do it with some regularity before the company disallowed it.
The one-eyed pilot of this TACA flight had to slip to get over a fence on final, landing it deadstick on a levee after losing both engines in a thunderstorm off New Orleans. They flew the airplane out after repairing the engines. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TACA_Flight_110
Great video. Love your J3 ❤ She looks even older than mine (1946). A question to your video: How did you add those gauges to the video?
Thank you! It’s a ‘41. And as far as GPS overlays. Here ya go!
Quickly Adding GPS Overlays to your Flying Videos with GoPro and Insta360º Cameras.
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@@Bananasssssssss hey thanks. I will check that out. 👍
Great video as always Joe, thanks. Now go knock the morning bugs off your aeroplane.
Thanks Dave!!
Well made video, this is exactly what my flight instructor is teaching me. I was shocked too see how effective they truly are, I mean when I tried it with him. I bet it won't work as well in a Diamond da20 as it does in a cub but still.
Seriously, well made video and very informative.
Thanks! Never flew a Diamond but hear they are great planes
@@Bananasssssssss trust me, they are!
Putting the fun part aside, the maneuver as a tool is the best description and your example of an engine out and getting down fast is a great one. Might sound extreme but could result in a safe landing vs. over running a field and ending up in trees. It’s definitely one skill that I’m happy I have and am comfortable with
@@chrissciolla thanks Chris! (Might need it when we blast off for first time in the 8E) 😂
Folks, notice how Joe has the mic close to his lips but he isn’t constantly making those silly duck lips and smooching it? THAT is how/where to place/treat the mic.
What do you use the for cool tail camera shot? I'd like to do that with my Maule.
Great content. I notice that your VHF voice is same as normal. What is it about pilots that they go voice fry on VHF?
Smooth.
hey, where did you get that rad shirt?
Great video as always man! Any advice for someone about to become an instructor?
Yeah! Every student will try to ki*ll you! Ha. Stay vigilant and dont worry about being uncomfortable for the first month or two. Very natural to be hyper vigilant! Lol. It gets better with time and I tell people, “you don’t really learn how to fly, until you start Instructing “
Appreciate the advice sir!
I prefer the right rudder left aileron when slipping too. Doing it the other way feels so awkward for some reason. Love the videos. The comment about Airbus pilots not knowing there’s a rudder made me laugh.😂 Have you flown any other tailwheel airplanes?
I was the same way! Lol and forced myself to slip the other way! Little bit of SuperCub, Chief, Luscombe & Stearman time 👍🏼
@@Bananasssssssss Thats awesome. Vintage Biplanes are so freakin cool. Haven’t flown the Stearman yet but I plan to. Have you done/do you have any interest in aerobatics? Or is that “off limits” lol Looking forward to the next video. Great production quality. Golden hour is the best for it 👍🏻 Keep it up.
@@alexc5449 I do have an interest in it, but I don’t know if I’m ready for it yet, lol. I did get a ride in a T6 (Aeroshell team) and the aerobatics we did were AWESOME!!
Great video! How did you get the view from the back of the aircraft? Drone? I owned a 1946 Cessna 120, no electrical system or flaps so had to slip it all the time. I also flew a friends 1938 J3 from western Okla to Oshkosh air show in 1978. No radios so had FAA waiver. Entered the downwind per instructions but had the J3 fire walled just trying to keep up with the other aircraft. Came over threshold too fast and high. Had to do a steep slip to get down and bleed off airspeed. When I touched down a guy next to the runway was frantically waving me off the runway into the grass. As I rolled off the runway a Ford Tri-Motor landed. He was on my tail the whole way down. Exciting times flying that J3.
Thanks! It’s actually a 360° camera attached to tailwheel spring
Slipping is an essential tool of a skilled pilot, but you need a plane with some rudder. Flew a Cessna 172 not too long ago, rudder was completely anemic. Give me a tail dragger any day.
Great video! I did not see it, but do you have to trim the Cub much in the pattern?
Thanks! And nope! Hardly every touch it unless I have a passenger
What are your thoughts on IAS during a slip? I have a pitot and static port on the left side, and the delta between those pressures can get complicated (especially in a crosswind). I generally ignore the IAS and just fly by feel. Thoughts?
You said it! Ignore it! It’s pretty in accurate in a slip for a few reasons, the airframe blocking the relative wind and it hitting the pitot tube on an angle. Best advice is to get established on a nice and stable final approach speed then enter the slip. That’s also what I love about slips, the airplane will tell you when it’s getting close to a stall, in a Skid, there is no warning at all.
I fly sailplanes. Not more than 16 solo flights. Slips are fun but freak me out because the airspeed indicator goes all wonky with the indirect airflow and becomes useless so I always worry I might be going too slow.
How do you rig the tail camera?
Bananasssss! I think Tom Petty sang about this. He called it Free Falling! =]
Slightly daft question.. why do folks fly cubs from the rearmost seat? I was wondering if it relates to the rearwood CG helping keep the taildragger more stable?
yup! Without Wing Tanks the Cub has to be flown from rear seat for Weight & Balance
Cub King! btw I wondered to you have the original 65hp or did you go 85hp? I'd think the way you play with the trees 85 would be nice.🤷♂️
I WOULDDDDD LOVE AN 85! But currently have the A-65
How do you get the view from behind the tail feathers ?
360° camera!
Safely Mounting GoPro & Insta 360º Camera's on your plane, on Strut, Tail, Rudder and Cowling
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Are you still instructing? Looks like you’re close to me and I gotta get back in to it.
Thinking of getting a canard, no flaps, can you slip a canard?
I fly in the morning before work all the time :)
Same here!
"Most airbus pilots dont even realize it has a rudder" 🤣
simply explained, and executed! Excellent video!
Thank you!, appreciate it
Great videos.
Thanks Jim!
Thanks for the video!
Whats better Luscombe or cub.
Depends who ya ask 😂 I prefer ripping around in a Cub but the Luscombes are beautiful
@@Bananasssssssss Yeah my dad had a project but sold it for wind-T. But a pietenpol aircamper.
@@Jesusistheonlyway86 a local father and son in our EAA chapter are building a Peitenpol
@@Bananasssssssss Thats what my dad did it was my grandpa and him. NX92GB
I know you are way above those power lines. But from my iPad point of view you look so close to them 😳
It’s probably like 10ft ish, lol
"most airbus pilots don't even realize they have a rudder" :)
Loved watching you come down the runway in a slip. A Thing of beauty. Really Appreciate your camera work. Thanks Joe
I keep approaches tight and slip it everytime. I’d rather have the extra altitude if my 65 year old engine decides to bite the dust
Amazing opening scene , great filming That morning weather was so beautiful, even I could feel it through my screen . Very nice tutorial with nice explanations. 😊
But uncoordinated on final will immediately kill you! 😅
only if ya get too slow and exceed that critical AOA :)
No
"I always slip to the left"?!?!?@ if the wind is quartering from the right. Or if you are turning right, you are skidding and risking a stall-spin. I am sure you do it right, but the explanation seems misguiding?
Please make more videos