LEGO Ninjago: The Problem With Lloyd

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  • Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024

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  • @hfmasters
    @hfmasters  5 лет назад +213

    I'm open for debate

    • @zacgordon4939
      @zacgordon4939 5 лет назад +31

      In season 3 zane was the main character but they still focused on Lloyds issue's

    • @ArkadeStudios
      @ArkadeStudios 5 лет назад +14

      Lloyd wasn't in half on season 9! He was never in my realm (The FIRST Realm!)

    • @JTBvloger
      @JTBvloger 5 лет назад +17

      @@ArkadeStudios WHAT??? Seasons 8-10 are all Lloyd focused seasons. What the hell are u talking about?

    • @bobbobbington3598
      @bobbobbington3598 5 лет назад +11

      @@ArkadeStudios you don't need to be in 99% of the season to be the main character lol

    • @ultimategodultraman8938
      @ultimategodultraman8938 5 лет назад +6

      Hfmasters nothing to do with lloyd but do you think that the session 11 set boxes should've been kai and Zane in the corner because of the Pyro snakes and ice samurai

  • @mint7442
    @mint7442 4 года назад +284

    Lloyd has daddy issues, it’s part of his story. He struggles with emotional attachment and that’s what he actually deals with in each of his seasons. Yes there are seasons where that’s his father but that’s because it’s the most important relationship in his life
    For example in the evil zane season he won’t fight him either. That battle is the same. People don’t talk about it because it didn’t mean even almost as much to Lloyd so it wasn’t as impactful.
    That’s why his fight with Harumi was such an important moment. It wasn’t just the plot but also the emotions.
    And I know the video didn’t come out when so of the stuff I’m talking about did but
    The new fight with Harumi vs Lloyd is such a good example of his character. He is lead by emotion and can be easily manipulated. If he cares for someone he won’t hurt them, he can’t, he isn’t about to. Lloyd’s character is that of a hero who so often finds that he can’t fight, that he can’t be the hero the people need because he lets his emotions completely control him.
    That’s Lloyd’s character

    • @crazyem21
      @crazyem21 3 года назад +32

      I think Lloyd’s character is he let’s his emotions control him but he try’s to stop them to save people and I can relate my emotions can get the better of me but I try to hold them back so Lloyd is a strong and great ninja.

    • @khusasab4156
      @khusasab4156 3 года назад +5

      @@crazyem21 yes u are true nice think

    • @amoura00
      @amoura00 3 года назад +28

      Finally someone who understands, for example kai when he found out that his father was evil, he batteled him with no struggle and didn't care but lloyd when it comes fighting his father, he can't, he let his emotions take him, and that's when people hate on it but tbh it's better, for me it's not boring at all, it's really inspiring for the people who also let's their emotions to take over them when people want them to be different, idc if no one agrees but for me lloyd is my favorite :)

    • @levi16._
      @levi16._ 3 года назад +8

      @@amoura00 Same, Lloyd matches me in personality traits, he’s always been my favourite since the show first came out / shown him well all of them are my favourites but yeah.

    • @kaininjathundermmandopoke5167
      @kaininjathundermmandopoke5167 3 года назад

      It llyod fault,

  • @brucewayne8252
    @brucewayne8252 5 лет назад +88

    The creators thought that Ninjago would end with season 2 . So they rushed his arc in order to finish it . If they knew the series would would continue , they would’ve fleshed out his story . The transition from a minor villain to a gold hearted Ninja ( literally) would be longer .

    • @hfmasters
      @hfmasters  5 лет назад +18

      It was not rushed, Ninjago was always planned to go 3 years, the reason it was cancelled wasn’t because of poor sales. It was because it ran its intended course and LEGO wanted to move on with Chima. Obviously they found out they had they had more than they thought with Ninjago and so they brought it back quickly but that only because of phone calls from parents

    • @brucewayne8252
      @brucewayne8252 5 лет назад +2

      Hfmasters
      That’s true , you have a point .

    • @levi16._
      @levi16._ 3 года назад

      @Sharmaine Choy Nope, it’ll stop at 20 seasons so we have 5 more till the shows over.

  • @LegendSM
    @LegendSM 4 года назад +67

    When the Overlord said: "Where there is light, there will always be shadow," Lloyd should have said "And where there is shadow, there will always be light."

    • @mekhisanders5114
      @mekhisanders5114 3 года назад +3

      He did

    • @LegendSM
      @LegendSM 3 года назад +13

      @@mekhisanders5114 nah, he said "Unless my light is bright enough" which was just... just no, the creators couldve done a better job

    • @craigpeoples9883
      @craigpeoples9883 3 года назад +3

      @@LegendSMYup

    • @zarkahmed3199
      @zarkahmed3199 2 года назад +3

      @@LegendSM you expect a kid to make up a better line?

    • @smallrockstudios9395
      @smallrockstudios9395 2 года назад +3

      I swear that HAD to be what the original script was until someone took a massive crap on it lmaoo

  • @waterblazek2288
    @waterblazek2288 4 года назад +59

    Lloyd in Seasons 11+:
    *Has no daddy issues*
    Me: Impossible...

    • @cricketkid1709
      @cricketkid1709 3 года назад +1

      even s14 one of his seasons

    • @l1ttl3ab77
      @l1ttl3ab77 2 года назад +1

      @@cricketkid1709 no it isnt. Just cause he got separated from the ninja doesent make it his season.

    • @matrixpictures7799
      @matrixpictures7799 2 года назад

      @@cricketkid1709 no that was more of a team thing...

  • @_teriyaktastic3007
    @_teriyaktastic3007 5 лет назад +123

    Kai’s my favorite character but I will protect Lloyd and his rampant daddy issues with my life. 😔

    • @HitlerGaymes123
      @HitlerGaymes123 5 лет назад +2

      My too

    • @wokejira
      @wokejira 5 лет назад +7

      His daddy's issues are annoying,boring, and predictable

    • @MontgomeryDelegation
      @MontgomeryDelegation 3 года назад +4

      @@wokejira so is your name

    • @ghostboytmj5257
      @ghostboytmj5257 3 года назад

      Lol but most people wanted to be Kai to be the green naar ninja but Lloyd is good to

    • @segaspice4062
      @segaspice4062 3 года назад

      @@wokejira I agree

  • @VampisaBells963
    @VampisaBells963 3 года назад +27

    0:51 I honestly don’t blame Lloyd for not having any clever lines when fighting the Overlord. Let’s not forget that Lloyd was forced to grow up, even though he’s still mentally a young boy. 5-10 year olds aren’t really creative when it comes to heroic lines. So, since Lloyd was mentally a 5-10 year old, I can understand why his threats to the Overlord weren’t very creative.

    • @FantasticFawnleap
      @FantasticFawnleap 7 месяцев назад +2

      Wish garmadon had a older female descendant but not with misako!

  • @Psyoid
    @Psyoid 5 лет назад +89

    The biggest problem with him is that they just keep resetting his growth- they can't seem to let him move on as a character, it was SO obvious in SOG-Hunted. The forced 're-growth' of the character throughout those seasons just spat in the face of everything that had come before it. What was the buildup from him becoming more like a sensei? Edging ever closer, and finally getting that role technically in Hands of time? Only to just be thrown back to square one because 'whoops we cant have our main ninja go growing into a different person now that he is printing the $$$ amirite bois ecksdeee"

    • @Jaredragon
      @Jaredragon 5 лет назад +3

      Preach!

    • @Psyoid
      @Psyoid 5 лет назад +1

      @Dylan Sharp ...Uh, literally EVERYTHING I just said in that comment?

    • @Psyoid
      @Psyoid 5 лет назад

      @Dylan Sharp Not from how he's been written.

    • @lloydmontgomerygarmadon4970
      @lloydmontgomerygarmadon4970 4 года назад

      I like lloyd but I think they should also foucs on the others

    • @thatidiot6073
      @thatidiot6073 4 года назад +3

      There's other character arcs they could have used for Lloyd other than daddy issues like when he was the youngest ninja they could have made his arc more about feeling lesser than the other ninjas or that one time when they were going to give him a trying to be a good leader arc they could have focused on that more or give him an arc about feeling overwhelmed by the responsibility of being the most powerful ninja or even an arc about that crush on haroomi just don't use daddy issues again

  • @zachmakesstuff9866
    @zachmakesstuff9866 5 лет назад +254

    Lego ninjago, masters of spinjitzu?
    More like;
    Lego lloyd, master of daddy issues

  • @AlejandroGarcia-nu8kh
    @AlejandroGarcia-nu8kh 4 года назад +66

    Basically any season with Lloyd the main character: lloyd and garmadon arguing

    • @levi16._
      @levi16._ 3 года назад +6

      PLEASEE I LAUGHED SO HARD

    • @PHILI-l4c
      @PHILI-l4c 3 года назад +2

      I agree right here

  • @katiecooper1387
    @katiecooper1387 5 лет назад +280

    Lloyd is by far my favourite character but most of your complaints are valid. :P

  • @enricovecchio6810
    @enricovecchio6810 5 лет назад +79

    *" I HAVE COME HERE TO FIGHT YOU"*

    • @lloydmontgomerygarmadon4970
      @lloydmontgomerygarmadon4970 4 года назад +4

      Acctuely I wish they re-line this what were they thinking of it

    • @wilmanunez7772
      @wilmanunez7772 3 года назад +3

      no, i have came to make tea with you.

    • @Xiao-ls6xr
      @Xiao-ls6xr 3 года назад +2

      😐

    • @wilmanunez7772
      @wilmanunez7772 3 года назад +2

      @@Xiao-ls6xr
      the line was weird and should have been replaced with something more logical

    • @papyrusgaming4820
      @papyrusgaming4820 3 года назад +3

      Not gonna lie that line has made me cringe a few times 😬

  • @thescribe2974
    @thescribe2974 5 лет назад +135

    I think the oni arc could've been explored more in a full on season instead of a special. It could've made room for Lloyd's arc cycle to go in a different direction. Like him taking on an oni form or something.

    • @aninjaneverquits190
      @aninjaneverquits190 5 лет назад +9

      they tried to do it for 3 seasons and goofed lol

    • @MiniLegoProductions
      @MiniLegoProductions 5 лет назад +3

      aninjaneverquits lol

    • @jette3001
      @jette3001 5 лет назад +10

      I think it would have been cool if Cole had Oni blood and through the touch with the cloud he turns into an oni and becomes evil. I even wrote a whole script about him meeting Harumi who is recruiting Cole to turn against his friends and take revenge. Just look at him: He is the ninja that has made it through the most. He didn't get Nya in the end, he became a ghost, his friends forgot him, he fell from the bounty ...

    • @thescribe2974
      @thescribe2974 5 лет назад +3

      @@jette3001 Oh wow, that's SO COOL! I had an idea but it was pretty different.

    • @Nettlebush2360
      @Nettlebush2360 4 года назад +1

      @@jette3001 yes

  • @friend2730
    @friend2730 4 года назад +61

    Lloyd: "Unless my light is bright enough!"
    Me: Uh yeah, it's blinding

    • @lloydmontgomerygarmadon4970
      @lloydmontgomerygarmadon4970 4 года назад

      Meant unless my power is lighting enough to end you

    • @elinbird00
      @elinbird00 3 года назад +5

      That line was cringe 😬

    • @craigpeoples9883
      @craigpeoples9883 3 года назад +5

      @@elinbird00He could at least said something like where there's darkness there will be light

    • @elinbird00
      @elinbird00 3 года назад

      @@craigpeoples9883 hahaaha yup

    • @craigpeoples9883
      @craigpeoples9883 3 года назад +2

      @@elinbird00Lloyd is either over used or poorly used either why he loses

  • @NexusKing1
    @NexusKing1 5 лет назад +17

    My main problem with Lloyd is that even though if it's not his season, he still gets focused sooooo much on, for example;
    Season 3 (Zane's Season)- The Overlord takes his Golden Power
    Season 4 (Kai's Season)- Chen leaves him last to take his power
    Season 5 (Could've been Cole or Nya's season)- Literally the whole season is about unpossessing him
    Season 6 (Jays Season)- He's the Last Ninja to gets put in the Djinn Blade
    Season 7 (Kai/Nya's Season) He has to take up Master Wu's place as the team leader
    Season 9 (Wu's Season) Goes sicko mode in the last episode when he fights Garmadon
    Season 10 (Cole I guess?) Of course he goes to this grass land lookin thing and meets the First Spinjitsu Master

  • @swaggasaurus4837
    @swaggasaurus4837 5 лет назад +78

    I agree completely, man. Though I might be a bit biased because I prefer the original seasons with the four ninja, Kai was by far the best protagonist as per the pilot and season 1, because he had a clear, relatable goal - which was to find Nya, and then become the Green Ninja. This goal [the latter] started off as a harmless competition between the four ninja, but Kai gradually took the "competition" to a point that became borderline obsessive. He wanted to become the green ninja so bad he put himself and others in danger to unlock his True Potential - however, he finally managed to do it when he realized he needed to put those friends in _front_ of his otherwise selfish desires to become worthy of deserving the title. Kai's arc was complete the minute he chose to save Lloyd rather than the Fang Blade, which then allowed him to accept Lloyd as the Green Ninja rather than himself. Since then he retained a bit of his fiery side/headstrong nature, but became a lot more humble and supportive of his allies.
    Personally I think the Lloyd problem would be fixed if they touched on his and Kai's dynamic since their characters were so reflective/dependent on each other (Lloyd sees Kai as an older mentor figure - Accepting Lloyd's fate allow Kai to be more humble). It keeps getting brought up every now and then - mostly in Season 4 and 5 (the latter, Kai takes Lloyd's possession quite heavily and stops at nothing to rescue him - season 4 shows Kai has some jealousy buried deep about not being the Green Ninja), but I think it would be best if it was brought up more. They should definitely focus more on Lloyd's dynamic with the others, and give him a more definitive, realistic goal. That's what made Kai such a good protagonist from the start - we could relate to him wanting to save his sister quickly and efficiently (because she was all he had)), and we can relate to him wanting to become the Green Ninja so badly (after all, Garmadon nearly took everything from him and had Samukai kidnap his sister in the first place - he wanted to be the one to defeat him).

    • @khumonkoane430
      @khumonkoane430 4 года назад

      Longest comment ever

    • @fuji2070
      @fuji2070 4 года назад +1

      Exactly tho

    • @EclipseHedgehog
      @EclipseHedgehog 4 года назад +4

      when it comes to lego, this is the complete opposite as to how they handled Takua/Takanuva in Bionicle. He got just 1 year to himself even becoming the mascot of the very first lego and bionicle movie. and then? nothing. he gets 2 new sets but he never took the spotlight though. he was more of a side character, a backup toa for help every now and then.
      Lloyd is pretty much given the Tommy Oliver treatment where the show's spotlight focuses all on him, he's the jesus character of the entire ip, he gets the best dragons, the best weapons, the best costumes, green is so special, that it gets thrown out for gold! c'mon!
      I liked Morro a lot more than Lloyd. He was the anti-Kai, like what if he continued being jealous and let that obsession consume him even after his death? in fact he kind of reminds me of Jason Todd from batman in this case. oh and he looked better in green too especially with that phantasm hoodie.

    • @marquinafamily9275
      @marquinafamily9275 4 года назад

      K

    • @SteveCrafts2k
      @SteveCrafts2k 4 года назад

      @@EclipseHedgehog Morro? You mean the manchild?

  • @MG-ls4eu
    @MG-ls4eu 5 лет назад +170

    Am bored of snake seasons
    4 out of 11 seasons are snake themed
    38% of the show is snakes
    62% of the show is not snakes

    • @horadetodososlegos
      @horadetodososlegos 5 лет назад +13

      Yeah, snakes are very overused

    • @JcgLounge
      @JcgLounge 5 лет назад +3

      M & G Thank you

    • @MasterLloyd
      @MasterLloyd 5 лет назад +3

      Exactly

    • @Rayzone11
      @Rayzone11 5 лет назад +13

      At least seasons 1 and 4 did it beautifully but seasons 7 and 11 did it terribly

    • @fangurks
      @fangurks 5 лет назад +6

      I just want, like, the old snakes back?

  • @AustinSPTD1996
    @AustinSPTD1996 5 лет назад +70

    Yeah, I’m not crazy about Lloyd these days. Back in the first two seasons of the cartoon, I found Lloyd quite enjoyable and developed; besides turning out to be the green ninja and pre-destined to fight Garmadon, he also had a few other things going on to make him relatable (like having been a misguided kid in “Never Trust a Snake” and feeling conflicted over giving up being a kid in “Child’s Play”).
    Nowadays, as the cartoon has clearly steered away from prophecies and ultimate fights, Lloyd now feels like he’s just “there” for me. Nearly all of his modern plots revolve around his unsteady relationship with his (wrongfully resurrected in season eight) father - a dynamic I’ve grown tired of watching (do not get me started on that toxic dynamic he had with Harumi), and he has hardly any notable quirks now to augment his personality and development; it makes him less engaging for me, and it’s begun to take its toll as he gains more attention than the rest of the ninja.
    Do I hate Lloyd? No, I don’t. But these days, I find him bland in comparison to the other five ninja.

    • @rhen0622
      @rhen0622 5 лет назад +1

      He literally got kissed twice in the seasons *(8 and 11)* by harumi and then akita like wat da hecc

    • @electromagneticpsychopath4973
      @electromagneticpsychopath4973 4 года назад +1

      I agree with everything you said. Lloyd is definitely my least favorite ninja because of it

    • @lloydmontgomerygarmadon4970
      @lloydmontgomerygarmadon4970 4 года назад +7

      @@rhen0622 he didn't asked akita kissed him and harumi tried to shut him up by kissing him

    • @levi16._
      @levi16._ 3 года назад +2

      @@rhen0622 he’s a chick magnet.

  • @cringecentral5345
    @cringecentral5345 5 лет назад +230

    Kai got shafted so hard in season 8

    • @morgn1505
      @morgn1505 5 лет назад +39

      Not to mention pretty dumbed down in the rest.

    • @2ndairborneguy790
      @2ndairborneguy790 5 лет назад +11

      I totally agree

    • @fangurks
      @fangurks 5 лет назад +24

      I think all the characters got dumped down for the sake of plot.

    • @SnowSaber-zn6hl
      @SnowSaber-zn6hl 4 года назад +14

      It is like ninjago hates kai.

    • @SonicSega0964
      @SonicSega0964 4 года назад +24

      SnowTiger 77 it’s weird because at first they loved Kai, he was the main character had 3 seasons and you can argue he is still the main character or at least the second to Lloyd.

  • @AL123Productions
    @AL123Productions 5 лет назад +32

    Finally someone else realises how SoG completely butchered most of the ninja, especially Kai!

    • @Psyoid
      @Psyoid 5 лет назад +1

      @Fedce It did tho

  • @JTBvloger
    @JTBvloger 5 лет назад +200

    We need a freaking Cole season for God's sake!

    • @hfmasters
      @hfmasters  5 лет назад +18

      Ikr

    • @Jbread456
      @Jbread456 5 лет назад +14

      COLES MY FAVORITE NINJA

    • @aworster1
      @aworster1 4 года назад +15

      Cole he his own season in season 13 well I think you know that

    • @DodgeHEadHoover
      @DodgeHEadHoover 4 года назад

      Ikr it's like the writers of the show don't like cole.

    • @certifiedtrash3152
      @certifiedtrash3152 4 года назад +5

      so I guess ur exited for season 13

  • @redsplat6606
    @redsplat6606 3 года назад +26

    This was a really good critique.
    I do believe that Lloyd's character in that weird Oni saga was just character regression. Garmadon should have stayed dead because it gave Lloyd a reason to become a great warrior and sensei like him and his uncle. There was literally no reason for the writers to bring him back other than to ride off the movie. All it did was bring back to same storyline from the previous few arcs, which is terrible from a narrative stand point because instances like this happen and the story becomes stale. I haven't watched the new seasons, but I'm glad they gave other characters the spotlight because they seem to have no idea where to take Lloyd's character anymore.

  • @cherryblossom00000
    @cherryblossom00000 5 лет назад +92

    Like you said, Lloyd just needs a different story to focus on. And there needs to balance among the characters or else everything just becomes really boring

  • @legendarywarrior135
    @legendarywarrior135 5 лет назад +52

    Completely agree with this, he always gets the spotlight instead of some one other like Zane, Zane barely gets recognized in s9 and s10

  • @rennythespaceguy7285
    @rennythespaceguy7285 5 лет назад +44

    Whilst I got to agree with you here I feel you left out his biggest problems, his character dynamics or his lack of them. Compare him to who seems to being often considered the worst ninja, Cole. When Cole's with Kai he's more snarky often pointing out his terrible ideas, with Jay they have very brotherly back and forth where they dig at each other but are also clearly shown to care for each other (Both of these are shown quite well in a season 11 episode where Kai calls Jay expendable and Cole immediately snaps back with "You're one to talk!" Whereas if he's with say Nya he shows a much more sympathetic side (Shown well in Skybound when asked about why sailors personifi their ships he at first quips but then once Lloyd leaves and it's just him and Nya he gives her a more serious answer that reassures her on her fears about Jay) Now put Lloyd with all these characters and no Matter which he was with he'd act the same.

    • @JTBvloger
      @JTBvloger 5 лет назад +6

      Damn you're right

    • @Jbread456
      @Jbread456 5 лет назад +10

      Yeah cause he's leader. Why should he act any dif... OOOOOh thats right (Kai wanted to become the green ninja and ninjago developers didn't take any of this into account.) Welp...

    • @rennythespaceguy7285
      @rennythespaceguy7285 5 лет назад +4

      @Master Tahu Master Tahu Of the three dynamics I mentioned only one was just "Pointless arguing" which I'd argue isn't pointless as it is often used for some great verbal humour or for tension and in neither of the two situations mentioned Lloyd "looked for a solution" in both he just was there and did nothing (heck even if he did something that wouldn't make him a more interesting character) also, who died?

    • @rennythespaceguy7285
      @rennythespaceguy7285 5 лет назад +4

      @@Jbread456 I'm not saying his dynamics need to be the same as Cole's I'm just saying he needs any sort of connection with the rest of the leads

    • @rennythespaceguy7285
      @rennythespaceguy7285 5 лет назад +4

      @Master Tahu That's still not a dynamic, a dynamic is the way he and a certain character play of each other in unique ways

  • @legoninja_5597
    @legoninja_5597 5 лет назад +111

    Half the people who disliked this probably didn’t even watch, he has a lot of actual good reasoning and real problems

  • @tahala1185
    @tahala1185 5 лет назад +42

    I agree with you on many points Lloyd is a good character it's just that they reused the same idea over and over again. If they changed this than it would give him a lot more character development and I do think that he's overshadowing the other ninja at this point even though they all have great characters and backgrounds that have been ignored because of Lloyd having issues with his father. Lloyd's still my favorite character but I think the writers are overusing him and are discarding the other characters that I also like a lot

    • @Angelica_04
      @Angelica_04 Год назад +1

      Yup agree with you all the way!

  • @SweetKandi
    @SweetKandi 5 лет назад +47

    I honestly feel like his character has really changed for the worse these past few seasons,,, he just hasn't felt the same AT ALL. He's one of my favorite characters but they really have to move away from him for a bit.

  • @svetlinpaunov6410
    @svetlinpaunov6410 5 лет назад +89

    I am way too used to Sam Vincent’s voice...
    Tbh I thought that the “bright enough” line was cool lol...

    • @ArkadeStudios
      @ArkadeStudios 5 лет назад +7

      So did I at the time I was like Lloyd is the coolest!

    • @svetlinpaunov6410
      @svetlinpaunov6410 5 лет назад +5

      Arkade Studios lol yeah, I loved his character arc in the oni trilogy

    • @ArkadeStudios
      @ArkadeStudios 5 лет назад +3

      Vinny Of NGTV News so did I, but I was just upset at Garmadons character arc through the trilogy as I thought they were building up to something but then he just left!

    • @svetlinpaunov6410
      @svetlinpaunov6410 5 лет назад +2

      Arkade Studios true, i was hoping that he would probably become a sensei again, due to the effects of the tornado of creation cleansing his oni side but nope, he just left unaffected.

    • @svetlinpaunov6410
      @svetlinpaunov6410 5 лет назад +1

      Anonymus Being lol same, I just thought the other one was alright lol

  • @Ian-ry4wt
    @Ian-ry4wt 4 года назад +18

    Tbh Kai was always my favorite character he has confidence en gets easily mad I can find myself in that. And what u say about Lloyd is actually true.

  • @krakenzzistrash5351
    @krakenzzistrash5351 5 лет назад +37

    I do not want Lloyd to stay as the main character I mean I liked it when it was the team not just Lloyd

    • @khusasab4156
      @khusasab4156 4 года назад +1

      Don't say something about Lloyd ok

    • @thisopinioniswrong766
      @thisopinioniswrong766 3 года назад

      @@khusasab4156 stfu they are right

    • @krystel6995
      @krystel6995 3 года назад

      I mean Lloyd is the green ninja and can harness the four elemental powers and is the team leader. Him being a casual ninja will kinda take away him and his special role. Idk just me

    • @krakenzzistrash5351
      @krakenzzistrash5351 3 года назад

      @@krystel6995 who cares, his character is one of the worst in the show and it gets repetitive to have the focus on him every season whereas before the focus was on a different ninja every season

  • @sueglam950
    @sueglam950 4 года назад +9

    Him: Lloyd isn’t going to be in focus in s11
    Akita:ahem.

  • @ElectricPeaPlayz
    @ElectricPeaPlayz 3 года назад +5

    Lloyd: is simply on screen
    Writers: Shift the light to Lloyd real quick

  • @arzumproductions
    @arzumproductions 5 лет назад +72

    Even though Lloyd is my fav ninja, him being the main character is getting boring. Like it worked in seasons 2 and 8 but really, give Cole a season, and Jay, Zane, and Nya another season.

    • @arzumproductions
      @arzumproductions 5 лет назад +2

      yeah and he deserves a second

    • @fangurks
      @fangurks 5 лет назад +1

      Please no season about Nya ;-;

    • @fangurks
      @fangurks 5 лет назад +3

      Personally, I coul have all seasons be about Lloyd and be fine with it.
      That doesn't mean that the points in the video aren't valid.
      But I think that's not on Lloyd (because I think that would still be the case if others were the main characters), but simply on the writers.
      I mean, they did duck up the character development pretty much. Like, seriously.
      That's not Lloyd's fault. It's the writer's.

    • @arzumproductions
      @arzumproductions 5 лет назад +1

      I agree

    • @crazyem21
      @crazyem21 3 года назад

      If you say Lloyd’s boring and he is your favorite then how does that work and Lloyd already was made fun of in the LEGO Ninjago movie so STOP being b***’s about him

  • @dsninjaproductions9819
    @dsninjaproductions9819 5 лет назад +6

    Another Lloyd arc I have a problem with is his whole becoming a sensei thing, but the problem with it is that it’s moving so slowly that it’s becoming hard to care about it.

    • @hfmasters
      @hfmasters  5 лет назад +4

      Yeah they basically dropped that completely when they went into season 8

  • @s.r12
    @s.r12 4 года назад +11

    Lloyd has to be my favourite character throughout the series but as the series went on, Lloyd started becoming more and more emotionally hurt and mentally weak. I feel like that shows his personality of caring for others but feel like this personality trait of his only showed after his “breakup” with Harumi.
    (Just my opinion)

  • @Bluem_mage
    @Bluem_mage 5 лет назад +70

    The only reason lloyd isnt my absolute fave character is because he gets too much spotlight but otherwise I totally love him he is a good character but just too much spotlight

    • @jaztine9685
      @jaztine9685 4 года назад

      Yeaah your so right he had a lot of focused

    • @kiymila9111
      @kiymila9111 4 года назад

      Dirt bomb Squad Cz he’s very special

    • @jaztine9685
      @jaztine9685 4 года назад

      He had To MUCH FOCUS

    • @kiymila9111
      @kiymila9111 4 года назад +1

      Dirt bomb Squad the only growth you see in the green ninja is the rest of t he ninja, let me ask you sum who did he give his powers to?

  • @alias_undercover
    @alias_undercover 5 лет назад +17

    One thing i noticed about Lloyd is that he only steals the spotlight from Kai, but when it's for the other ninjas he doesn't mind

    • @SonicSega0964
      @SonicSega0964 4 года назад +10

      Right it’s like they realized Kai was the main character and Lloyd’s purpose was to undermine him

    • @levi16._
      @levi16._ 3 года назад +5

      Wow, we need a Kai season.

  • @chutas
    @chutas 5 лет назад +9

    Seasons possibilities:
    Jay:is adopted,funny and he could have a better season than skybound
    Cole:His mother is death, his father is away,and day of departed suck
    Zane:s11 is looking him...yet
    Kai:he could be a better main character(s0,s7)
    Nya:Kaix2
    Lloyd:He is..."EsPeCiaL"
    Lego:lEtS pUt LlOyD AgAin!

    • @SonicSega0964
      @SonicSega0964 4 года назад

      Kai was main character in Pilot season, Season 1, Season 4 and Season 7

  • @redrobber1331
    @redrobber1331 5 лет назад +21

    When I was a kid and the first seasons were coming out I always felt like Kai was more of a main character. Idk why he was just more iconic I guess? Kai was just on all the merch all the time.

    • @SonicSega0964
      @SonicSega0964 4 года назад +10

      Kai was the original main character and he has the second most seasons so you were right.

    • @SonicSega0964
      @SonicSega0964 4 года назад +7

      @ຕົບເບົາ ໆ ຕົບເບົາ ໆ Yeah for real, I miss kai in the spotlight.

    • @thisopinioniswrong766
      @thisopinioniswrong766 3 года назад +1

      @Bartosz Adamczyk yea i hate that truly

  • @enricovecchio6810
    @enricovecchio6810 5 лет назад +33

    100000% true. I have always said that I hate how Lloyd is a main character, even when it's another character's season. He is a good character and I'll be honest, but I think other ninjas need more credit and Lloyd isn't even that heroic. But I do like the new voice actor Sam vincent who plays Lloyd in Sons of Garmadon to season 11, he's cool

    • @khusasab4156
      @khusasab4156 4 года назад

      No ,Lloyd is very important and good most good character

    • @thisopinioniswrong766
      @thisopinioniswrong766 3 года назад +1

      @@khusasab4156 no lloyd sucks

    • @khusasab4156
      @khusasab4156 3 года назад +1

      @@thisopinioniswrong766 no Lloyd is very good character understand

    • @khusasab4156
      @khusasab4156 3 года назад +1

      @@thisopinioniswrong766 every ninja is sucks not for Lloyd

  • @benjaminfischer3229
    @benjaminfischer3229 2 года назад +6

    Every time a Ninjago season comes, they make it all about Lloyd!

    • @tofu866
      @tofu866 Год назад +2

      Exactly the only two seasons he didn’t steal the spotlight was Sky bound and DoTd the rest he just did-

  • @maggierosed
    @maggierosed 4 года назад +6

    Well at least he got trapped in that Djinn blade lol

  • @darthjarjar1511
    @darthjarjar1511 5 лет назад +65

    3:08 wait Harumi's feeding herself

    • @brickfinity827
      @brickfinity827 5 лет назад +13

      Jay Walker Or it has a far deeper meaning on the ways of life indicating the reverse operation of all blacks look the same diverse it and tranquilize it and it is to be proven in the show that all white races look the same proving it has a far deeper meaning than the eye can see

    • @darthjarjar1511
      @darthjarjar1511 5 лет назад +8

      @@brickfinity827 that's deep man
      That's deep

    • @LightningScorpion53
      @LightningScorpion53 5 лет назад +8

      Yeah I noticed that too 😂, Seasons 8-10 got really lazy with the extras, as they kept reusing character models all the time.

    • @darthjarjar1511
      @darthjarjar1511 5 лет назад +6

      @@LightningScorpion53 They could have used that design anywhere, but they just had to make Harumi feed herself 😂

    • @darthjarjar1511
      @darthjarjar1511 5 лет назад +6

      @@spacepotatoes2019 I guess so
      Or she has a sister
      Crazy Ninjago theory confirmed

  • @electromagneticpsychopath4973
    @electromagneticpsychopath4973 5 лет назад +11

    Tbh my biggest problem with lloyd is that he gets too much attention from the other ninja even the 4 main ninja.
    Even in the seasons not about him he steals the spotlight from
    that main character (I'm looking at you season 4 that was supposed to be a kai season
    And that was my biggest problem with the Lego ninjago movie and I hated it.
    That's why lloyd is barely in my top 10 favorite characters.
    The 4 original ninja are in my top 4 favorite characters
    4. Kai
    3. Zane
    2. Cole
    1. Jay

  • @josephharrison9639
    @josephharrison9639 4 года назад +16

    Kai used to be my favourite character of the entire series and they just ruined him after season 7

    • @mahamanis7174
      @mahamanis7174 4 года назад +2

      He go undeveloped from season 9 to 12 like what

  • @pickle5074
    @pickle5074 4 года назад +5

    He's basically like Rey from star wars, by passing training and development and instantly becoming a literal god.

  • @David-cf8qt
    @David-cf8qt 5 лет назад +7

    I thought this when I was a kid, the minute he became a Ninja, all of his a lot of development seemingly disappears

  • @lilycox7423
    @lilycox7423 5 лет назад +79

    Who else had a crush on lloyd whenever they were younger?

  • @Abziziler
    @Abziziler 3 года назад +6

    Wait when Lloyd said unless my light is bright enough that’s physically and scientifically impossible even if his light was bright enough it would still create shadows

  • @AceOfSpadeslego
    @AceOfSpadeslego 5 лет назад +14

    Lloyd is the best ninja ever but his 1 liners were bad in the past

  • @svetlinpaunov6410
    @svetlinpaunov6410 5 лет назад +19

    I agree, season 11 has done a great job balancing the characters out so far, let’s hope that it will continue being this way

    • @hfmasters
      @hfmasters  5 лет назад +7

      I think it will, loved you in episode 8 btw

    • @svetlinpaunov6410
      @svetlinpaunov6410 5 лет назад +2

      Hfmasters thanks man, it was hard pretending to be afraid while being held captive by aspheera but it was worth it!
      More of this in episode 9, this time I will try to act it out as if it isn’t staged by me or anything lol

    • @jaztine9685
      @jaztine9685 4 года назад +2

      Ummm kinda but llyod face zane at the ice chapter and its sopposed to be kai fighting of zane (srry for bad english)

  • @princcezero
    @princcezero 5 лет назад +7

    Garmadon: I am the ruler of NINJAGO! BOW BEFORE ME!!!
    Me: *BRING ME THANOS!!!!*

  • @omarbaba9892
    @omarbaba9892 4 года назад +4

    Lloyd is so clumsy in season 10 he trips over a doorframe😂😂

    • @levi16._
      @levi16._ 3 года назад

      Ugh that’s something I’d do tbh.

  • @tristen-w1p
    @tristen-w1p 3 года назад +19

    I agree with this..but I just don't like Lloyd as a whole. He's treated as better and more special than the other ninja and the other ninja always have to look so idiotic in comparison to Lloyd. And what makes it worse is, the other ninja have more experience. He's also boring as hell.

    • @Harrydowney755
      @Harrydowney755 2 года назад +3

      THANK YOU!!! 👏

    • @tofu866
      @tofu866 Год назад

      True facts and even if Lloyd is my favourite i agree with this statement

  • @Thunder0003
    @Thunder0003 5 лет назад +82

    Man, where is our Dareth season

  • @raulramos1427
    @raulramos1427 3 года назад +5

    They make him so powerful in the first seasons but then he gets trash

  • @lynxsbow
    @lynxsbow 5 лет назад +21

    Honestly, I prefer Kai as the main character more than Lloyd.
    (Nothing against Lloyd fans though, he's like my third favourite character so-)

    • @SonicSega0964
      @SonicSega0964 4 года назад +10

      Kai is a better main character than him and had the second most seasons. That and Kai was the original so he was many people’s first impression of the series

    • @khusasab4156
      @khusasab4156 4 года назад +1

      No, Lloyd is very important and good most good character

    • @Deity_devil
      @Deity_devil Год назад

      Unpopular opinion I like the fact that Kai didn’t become the green ninja because it would serve great character for him

  • @RosieWolf
    @RosieWolf 3 года назад +8

    Lloyd is my favorite character but I do agree his plots have gotten a little stale. I hope the writers give him a better plot for his next season.

  • @Rayzone11
    @Rayzone11 5 лет назад +4

    If he didnt get all this attention he would've stay my least favorite ninja but because of that he became my least favorite character

  • @wokejira
    @wokejira 5 лет назад +6

    I have to agree on about Lloyd being a boring character. When they decided to turn Kai into a comic relief character I got so mad, we have Jay who is an excellent comic relief character, We don't need Kai to be one.My favorite ninja is Kai, they should change Kai back into serious ninja! Let's talk about Lloyd, When I first saw Lloyd in season 1 I thought he was going to be the annoying character that nobody likes. When he was the green ninja he had a purpose. He "defeated" the over lord and I thought that was the only important thing.. BUT NO! Every single season Lloyd had a daddy problem, it's getting annoying. Even in the Lego ninjago movie! As I watched season 11 the ninja has their own scene and I liked that! If Lloyd's going to be the main character for future seasons please, PLEASE make it a new story! I haven't seen Lloyd grown as a character since season 2! All I need is that Lloyd has a new story for a season and that Kai doesn't be a comic relief!

    • @khusasab4156
      @khusasab4156 4 года назад

      Are you crazy Lloyd is main character ok

  • @SnowSaber-zn6hl
    @SnowSaber-zn6hl 4 года назад +9

    Ninjago just seems to hate Kai for some odd reason

    • @SonicSega0964
      @SonicSega0964 4 года назад +7

      For real I miss when he was the main character of the series

    • @arjundeodhar4223
      @arjundeodhar4223 4 года назад

      @@SonicSega0964 true

    • @frankietapez8916
      @frankietapez8916 3 года назад +1

      No kai has many seasons while people like jay and cole barely have any

  • @jomerpaguio8006
    @jomerpaguio8006 5 лет назад +6

    Lloyd is my fav but he should give the other ninja some seasons.... Its always him..... HIM

  • @bwidyanto2214
    @bwidyanto2214 3 года назад +4

    The problem with lloyd is he always use his Powers and thinks he is ALWAYS the best

  • @IShatTheBed
    @IShatTheBed 4 года назад +2

    Lloyd: exists
    Lego:I can milk you

  • @justforgetshine
    @justforgetshine 4 года назад +10

    I dont like how he just stole the spotlight from the other ninja its all now the Lloyd show and his character trait is the chosen one and he is just not as good as the original 4 but he did get a little better in the new seasons but big thing they should fix is take him out of the spotlight and move the other 5 into it and less him because Nya is one of the best storylines because it mirrors kai's story. transition to ninja but she is more interesting with it and Lloyd just shouldn't be the focus of the show

    • @lerianaleni6000
      @lerianaleni6000 3 года назад +1

      Because he's the green ninja ohhh nahh ranga😭🤚🏼 .

  • @Rayzone11
    @Rayzone11 5 лет назад +5

    Zane had the best development in the serie and Cole is a close second

    • @flamingblade3076
      @flamingblade3076 5 лет назад +1

      When did cole have any development

    • @Rayzone11
      @Rayzone11 5 лет назад +2

      @@flamingblade3076
      In seasons 5 and 8 he was the second most developed ninja

  • @omarbaba9892
    @omarbaba9892 4 года назад +20

    Ninjago: masters of daddyissuesjitzu

  • @minegodyt8169
    @minegodyt8169 4 года назад +4

    The only person to blame is Harumi, she ruined him

  • @ninjagoseason1129
    @ninjagoseason1129 5 лет назад +27

    I know this video is gonna get hated on but I can't really argue against your main points, a lot of the stuff you said is true although I don't think it's as bad as you make it out to be.

  • @Coolgamer..
    @Coolgamer.. 4 года назад +20

    Kai has only one focus season, Hands of Time. Season 4 is a team's season and the pilot isn't a season.

    • @wilmanunez7772
      @wilmanunez7772 3 года назад +1

      kai has literally half a season because hands of time was both kai’s and nya’s focus season 🤠

    • @Coolgamer..
      @Coolgamer.. 3 года назад +1

      @@wilmanunez7772 I agree

    • @skylord1846
      @skylord1846 2 года назад +3

      Kai had the pilots and seasons 4 and 11. Only the pilots weren’t a season. Kai did absolutely nothing in season 4 finale. And Kai hardly had any focus in season 11.

    • @l1ttl3ab77
      @l1ttl3ab77 2 года назад +1

      Bruh kai had pilots, s4, shared s7, shared s11.

    • @skylord1846
      @skylord1846 2 года назад +1

      @@l1ttl3ab77 The Pilots wasn’t a season. Kai hardly did anything in S4s finale. And he has to share seasons 7 and 11 with Nya and Zane.

  • @coolcubeartic6974
    @coolcubeartic6974 3 года назад +6

    Honestly Lloyd has always been my least favorite simply because HE HAS NO PERSONALITY
    It wasn’t until season 8 where they finally fixed him and made a great leader who doesn’t sound like he’s 2 and he has a personality trait.

  • @iswiftyfox8997
    @iswiftyfox8997 Год назад +4

    Season 8 Lloyd season is fair. He hasn’t had one since season 2. Season 9 is also fair. It focuses less on Lloyd and a lot on wu and the other ninja so it’s more balanced. Those two seasons should have been it, he finished his arc.
    Season 10, since it’s marketed as the finale of masters of spinjitzu, the 4 og ninja should have been the main characters. Literally the oni trilogy is Lloyd 70 percent, everyone else 30 percent.
    But whatever now Lloyd has 4 seasons, that’s basically as much as Kai. That’s fair. BUT THEN SEASON 11, which is supposed to be a Kai and Zane season, ends up being a Lloyd season. WHY?!? THATS 4 IN A ROW!!!

    • @chekkat8956
      @chekkat8956 Год назад +1

      IRK! don't get me wrong Lloyd is my favourite character but I also HATE HIM!!! like he steals the spotlight to much 🙄 like Season 11 is MENT TO FOCAS ON ZANE AND KAI AND A *LITTLE* NYA!!! BUT no it turns to be a LLOYD Season all of a sudden- honestly don't care if he's the GREEN NINJA it doesn't give him an excuse for him to steal the spotlight just because your the most powerful doesn't mean you need the attention 🙄

  • @kuusakaveh
    @kuusakaveh 5 лет назад +21

    You know what? I've been thinking about this for a long time now and Lloyd was the main character with the same story line all the time, like it was pretty predictable, but Lloyd is my fav so it wasn't too bad for me but I do agree the other characters should stand out more

  • @HelloBruhBruh
    @HelloBruhBruh 5 лет назад +25

    Dont really have problems with lloyd or any main character
    I dont really mind the kind of repetitive stuff from lloyd and garmadon because i like both characters (lloyd isnt boring to me) and they have different scenes and dialogs that don’t feel to repetitive besides the obvious, also the scenes you chose for the start for lloyd those were one of barley any lines that were weak and most of them are from the first 3 seasons, he really has some good interesting lines for the entire show and it shows that hes maturing and learning during the seasons. Also for the season 9 thing, they were focusing 2 different characters, wu and lloyd
    Lloyd was obviously gonna have to face his father in the final while he also has no power (i already knew wu wasn’t gonna defeat garmadon though i guess it would have worked if he helped lloyd more but instead he helped the ninja take down the giant) , and plus they made lloyd lead up the moment to fight garamdon again since the first episode of season 9,the others are trying to go back to ninjago to fight off the sog
    (Though 1 thing was that i wish the dragon armor did some cool things like the dragon blade) also what were the SOG doing during the season 9 final, lol
    I liked this video because you really did tell me how repetitive it kinda is but i just said this because of some things i didn’t really agree with the video

  • @sidalibmz8303
    @sidalibmz8303 5 лет назад +45

    I agree withe you ' i wish kai was still the mean creacter of the show

    • @kiymila9111
      @kiymila9111 4 года назад +1

      Well he isn’t

    • @blessedep7
      @blessedep7 4 года назад +1

      Same

    • @certifiedtrash3152
      @certifiedtrash3152 4 года назад +3

      Wtf is that spelling, I still agree tho

    • @Connor-xd6nm
      @Connor-xd6nm 4 года назад +2

      "mean creacter"

    • @thisopinioniswrong766
      @thisopinioniswrong766 3 года назад +2

      I agree, i's hard to find kai fans, but i always preferred kai over lloyd even before the ninjago movie and m mad that they are ruining kai's character just for lloyd's daddy issues

  • @Twhf7228
    @Twhf7228 5 лет назад +6

    I've never had problems with the Lloyd's character, but I understand why you look at him as a boring one. By the way, his lines in episode 26 are pretty dumb in english

    • @Twhf7228
      @Twhf7228 5 лет назад

      @Master Tahu I was talking about the Jillian Michale's performance in that episode. As I'm used to the Latin Spanish version, I expected something more epic than something that would give me painful. That's why I said they were dumb IN ENGLISH, I didn't mean what the writers wanted to put or not

    • @Twhf7228
      @Twhf7228 5 лет назад

      @Master Tahu I never said that she didn't do her best and I wasn't blaming her. I was just saying that Lloyd's dialogues in that sequence were painful to me in its original language than in mine because of Jillian's performance

  • @logankidkirbyjohnson8110
    @logankidkirbyjohnson8110 4 года назад +4

    Lloyd had that roast long coming

  • @sp3ctrofox
    @sp3ctrofox 4 года назад +5

    I HAVE COME HERE TO FIGHT YOU!!
    Lloyd is my favorite character but that line was a bit cringe lol.

  • @JC-lb3df
    @JC-lb3df 4 года назад +10

    I feel like Lloyd would’ve fit in more in a shonen anime due to him being
    •Young
    •OP Powers
    •Solid Backstory

  • @candy-kp8bb
    @candy-kp8bb 5 лет назад +3

    im glad im not the only one who thinks lloyd is boring

  • @othervids3726
    @othervids3726 5 лет назад +12

    I agree with most of your points except one, which is that in March of the Oni, the other ninja actually did serve a purpose. Without Kai, Jay, Cole and Zane the tornado of creation wouldn't have been possible, and while Lloyd was the one who came up with the idea, in terms of actually executing it, in my view he was more "just there"(and maybe nya as well in that case) more than any of the other ninja and garmadon and Wu. They actually needed the four original ninja(since they used the golden weapons which were needed to perform the tornado at all) and since garmadon had unlocked his true potential and Wu hadn't, the four original ninja's elements probably made up for that, which would make the elements of creation and destruction equal which would make golden power. Lloyd has none of that, and no Golden power anymore, so all he probably did was just give the tornado a little more power.

    • @nathanvanbeek5308
      @nathanvanbeek5308 5 лет назад +3

      Dude, are u serious?
      You are overthinking this. They just wanted everyone to join in to make the tornado. And lloyd is since sog the only one who gets important roles/tasks. He found the last oni mask, he had to fight his father, joined his father fighting the oni etc. He even had a dream about the first spinjitsu master which led to nothing. In season 7, lloyd was developed into the leader of the ninja, but others came up with plans too, as well as shined in battles.
      Even in s11, the problem is still not completely gone. Lloyd is the one who had to ask things to sensei wu. In season 1-7 the ninja just rushed in to ask wu questions. Useless extra attention for lloyd

    • @certifiedtrash3152
      @certifiedtrash3152 4 года назад

      I guess but by that logic, the other ninja had a big role in the ninjago move because without them, Lloyd would have died in a volcano

    • @amoura00
      @amoura00 3 года назад +1

      @@certifiedtrash3152 actually if lloyd wasn't with kai in the valcano, kai wouldn't even unlock his true potential in the first place 😂

    • @amoura00
      @amoura00 3 года назад

      U are really over thinking, if lloyd didn't go with his father in the first place into the diamond crystal, they wouldn't find the golden armer to recreate the golden weapons and if lloyd didn't come up with the plan, they would've lose 😂

    • @certifiedtrash3152
      @certifiedtrash3152 3 года назад

      you do realise that as Lloyd is the green ninja, it was confirmed that Lloyd would survive so with out the prophecy, would kai have even done it

  • @phillipagranston9996
    @phillipagranston9996 5 лет назад +4

    The dude has a point 😏. But I don't think Lloyd is the problem. They just need even it out between everyone.

  • @ghostfreefire765
    @ghostfreefire765 4 года назад +6

    I think that at a certain point he's overrated then he just seems weak I'd actually prefer the ninja get used to using their powers but Lloyd was better with his dragon. L still like Lloyd though

  • @kbraun_art6264
    @kbraun_art6264 4 года назад +2

    ok, i'm not a 9 year old kid just bored in quarantine, but as a long time fan of the show who still keeps up with it, i definitely agree with a lot of your points. no matter who was the focus of the season, lloyd had some subplot related to the same thing. sure, they gave him a couple of romantic tropes (harumi and akita) but they were out of the blue and didn't add too much depth to his character (harumi more than akita). he was never my favorite character of the series, but that's not to say he has no positives. i really liked his development in the first 4-5 seasons. but seasons 8-10 REALLY just decided to do what seasons 1 and 2 did but in another context. seasons 11 and 12 did a better job at balancing everyone's roles out, i just hope they continue to do that

  • @notbluey05
    @notbluey05 5 лет назад +9

    Lloyd is my 7th favorite character in ninjago

  • @exosource9612
    @exosource9612 5 лет назад +7

    I agree with you bro, Lloyd has been the main character for too long. I mean why can't Cole be the main character

  • @fireninja1972
    @fireninja1972 5 лет назад +5

    Lloyd is getting a bit boring with his constant daddy issues but there's another man problem I have noticed as with Kai and the other Ninja they all give him so much s*** he doesn't even deserve it he's had bad ideas ideas but everyone's had bad ideas but no one seems to care they just all blame it on Kai

    • @lloydmontgomerygarmadon4970
      @lloydmontgomerygarmadon4970 4 года назад +1

      Cuz he's the leader and the youngest and had bad backstroy so yup they care for him so much and he dose and if you think its funny to have daddy issus I had it what's so funny
      I know I agree he's over used

    • @craigpeoples9883
      @craigpeoples9883 3 года назад

      @@lloydmontgomerygarmadon4970And if there gonna over use him at least don't be repetitive

  • @certifiedtrash3152
    @certifiedtrash3152 4 года назад +3

    remember when he said season 11 wouldn't have an important role and kai wouldn't be 1 dimensional, funny and so naive.

  • @peacemama4957
    @peacemama4957 5 лет назад +4

    Quick question who do you think is cooler The Ice Emperor or Aspheera?

    • @yeetus_reetus_deeleetus
      @yeetus_reetus_deeleetus 5 лет назад +5

      If ur gonna ask who's "cooler" in a situation where there is a man litteraly made out of ice and a fire snek, you would realize that the snowman would be therorically "cooler"

    • @Jbread456
      @Jbread456 5 лет назад

      ice emperor

    • @peacemama4957
      @peacemama4957 5 лет назад

      LOL!

    • @janisrukers
      @janisrukers 5 лет назад +3

      We haven't seen the ice emperor yet though

  • @thephoenixdevil4817
    @thephoenixdevil4817 9 месяцев назад +1

    Lloyd is my favorite character but you’re totally right that he takes up too much and it’s always the same arc all the time
    -Daddy issues- smh

  • @slavisamilicevic4735
    @slavisamilicevic4735 5 лет назад +9

    Even thought Lloyd is my favorite ninja,i agree with you

  • @floofycupkim1197
    @floofycupkim1197 5 лет назад +2

    I like Lego ninjago season 1-7 and i found it good until the redesign and he didn't have too much dad issues, he is emotional

    • @floofycupkim1197
      @floofycupkim1197 5 лет назад

      The redesign made me cringe, why didn't the keep the hair the way it was? Some people to cut their hair once in a while

  • @RayoMcQueen95990
    @RayoMcQueen95990 3 года назад +2

    I am tired of the Lloyd-Garmadon plot and i hated that he got revived, let the dude rest in peace, they only did it because of little kids that came from the movie. Heck even the design is exactly the same as the one on the movie

  • @juswanlie2547
    @juswanlie2547 5 лет назад +2

    I think it was stupid to bring Garmadon back in season 8 but before that Lloyd didn’t have too many issues with his dad. Like of course he had them but only reasonable amount.

    • @craigpeoples9883
      @craigpeoples9883 3 года назад

      @@ieathands2248No it didn't the threw dirt on Garmadon's redemption

  • @zacgordon4939
    @zacgordon4939 5 лет назад +3

    Random question what is your favorite s11 set mines the katana 4x4

  • @rjthagoat1151
    @rjthagoat1151 3 года назад +1

    I mean Lloyd is literally a little kid in the first series so the fact he said childlike albatross banter is authentic

  • @GojiraFan-in9oo
    @GojiraFan-in9oo 2 года назад +3

    Who tf said that Cole wasn't developed??
    They did more experimental stuff with Cole than anyone else in the series
    Love triangle
    Becoming a Ghost
    Day of the Departed story arc
    Earth Punch
    The Skull Sorcerer story arc

  • @manueljesus3228
    @manueljesus3228 5 лет назад +4

    Here is how I would change Lloyd’s story:
    He should’ve died after the overlord absorbed his powers in season 3, or maybe he should’ve drowned when the overlords dragon robot got destroyed. Season 4 would’ve kinda played out the same, but wu would sent garmadon to the cursed realm. That would have caused Lloyd to come out, but maybe as a villain because he is a ghost, and he would’ve possessed someone like Kai or wu. That would make for a real dark season about the ninja learning to let go of the past (Lloyd) and that sometimes, they have to do things that they don’t want to (either summon the ghost Lloyd back into the cursed realm, or killing him) Lloyd is one of my favorite characters, I would actually be really sad if what I said happened. Still, I would’ve been kinda ok with it.

  • @sandyslegodollsandbeyond7811
    @sandyslegodollsandbeyond7811 4 года назад +8

    THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS!!! It seems like everyone loves Lloyd so much but to me and my brother think that he is just an annoying pig especially in the newer seasons. I sorta like him in season 1-7 but after that he just kinda annoys me ( no offense Lloyd lovers) He just is always in the spot light and it drives me CRAZY when he takes credit for what the team does and he says the weirdest things and his new self drives me CRAZY too!😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠 (Cole is definitely the best ninja ever:) (edit: I should say that I'm impressed with season 12 since the characters are nicely balanced so all is grand in the world of Ninjago:)
    THIS MANY PEOPLE DON'T LIKE LLOYD

    • @banapotato6940
      @banapotato6940 4 года назад

      Zane is definitely the best :P

    • @sandyslegodollsandbeyond7811
      @sandyslegodollsandbeyond7811 4 года назад

      @@banapotato6940 yes Zane is my 2 nd favorite character! He is one of the few characters I like in the newer seasons.

    • @lloydmontgomerygarmadon4970
      @lloydmontgomerygarmadon4970 4 года назад

      Well his new self is better

    • @banapotato6940
      @banapotato6940 4 года назад

      Lloyd Montgomery Garmadon yeah, in season 8+ he’s okay, well better than before, ha was so annoying

    • @lloydmontgomerygarmadon4970
      @lloydmontgomerygarmadon4970 4 года назад

      @@banapotato6940 WHAT ANNYOING IN IT?! I DONT GET YOU DO YOU HAVE GOOD LIFE SO FIND THIS ANNOYING ITS RELATED I HAD A LOVE ISSUS AND DADDY ISSUS WHATS ANNOYING IN THESE