When the boss was casting "Intemperate Torment" 00:02:19 his lower hand was glowing that indicates what cube would go off first which was the bottom one. And then on 00:06:00 his upper hand was glowing, then the top one exploded that gave him the ice debuff.
@@valmontx9980 it looks like the in and out is linked to the weapon he throws Out attached to the chain. If it’s the spiked mace it’s out (pbaoe) and if it’s the disc-like dancerish looking weapon it’s in (donut)
@@valmontx9980 It's a debuff and based on proximity to the player with the debuff. Red debuff will give the 3 furthest players an AoE, purple will tether to the 3 closest players. Purple can change tethers too so you want to stay in position until the mechanic is over.
@@KwehKwehKweh well I mean in terms of older 1st floors the normal teaches you a lot, because they usually just overlap mechs. This however is almost entirely different and I love it.
just clarifying xeno is at the top 1% of the raiders. hes insane, so even if it look easy, its cuz he has skill, dont be discouraged if it isnt as easy for you
His group is top 1% when playing together. Big difference in a group and an individual. Imagine how the average party finder players would handle the tank taking extra avoidable damage and then killing the healers. He seems fun to play with though at least.
Fight looks like it's gonna be super fun. I just have to make sure I don't get on the same amount of tomahawk high like Xenos did and accidentally kill a healer!
Incredible. I'll be lucky to get week 2. These cats just yolo Savage like 3 hours after launch. Can't imagine what it's like playing with ppl that good. Grats bud your team is amazing.
Managed to get about 2.5 hours of blind prog with pugs in tonight, made it past second fourfold but realistically that's still my prog point. I have a week off starting Thursday so hoping I can at least make it to P3S. This one has been a lot more fun than I expected, I really did not like the normal mode.
hello xeems idk if you'll read this'n but is there a plan to get a guide going for the first circles of this raid? i really enjoyed your guides so far, entertaining and informative
For the second intemperance when Xeno asks Nova to swap. I think it was a mistake to swap directly with her. Xeno stayed he took the ice debuff, then instead of swapping with Nova, he should have gone in the middle, have someone else to soak up the cube and finally he returns to his position to soak up the last cube. Am I correct or is there something better ?
So my group has been doing what you said: if you got different top and bottom buff you stay in mid for the second crystal. However, there are times that the second crystal is ice and fire, but everyone that has the different top and bottom crystal has the same color. Therefore, without swapping, there will be one block left untouched and the party would eat a dmg down.
@@jiankundong7318 the way you solve this mech without anyone eating damage down. The right way to do this is to always have 4 people with one color and 4 people with the opposite color after the 2nd color hit. Because the third hit will always have a different color in each square adjacent to it. So about 6 mins in the video when he brings up squares and colors the first hit will always have the two tanks with one color and the party with the opposite color. So you have both tanks stack north, for the 2nd hit to swap to fire, then you have both healers south, to swap to ice, but you also need two dps to go south and swap to ice. Lets make the range dps do it. Now you have the four red and the four ice to solve this without anyone getting damage down. All you gotta do now is his out and in mech then you have the two range dps that changed their color from fire to ice to take the tanks original spot of north and south, while having the two tank take the range dps spot, the melee and healers go back to their original. Now everyone is getting hit by their opposite color on the 3rd color hit, and no damage down for anyone.
You have to swap a tank out for a corner for wave 3. I think if you swap the double closing element (ice/fire/fire or fire/ice/ice) with your nearest intercard you could do it without getting vuln, but people have to be aware of their surrounding and be ready to own someone else's tile
@@xarnic291 The strat that I used was : MT (North) and OT (North-East) resolves each other block. The rest of the party resolve its own block. At least in theory... Actually my OT wasn't good enough and I had to take a damage down to avoid a wipe. xD
it was still wrong tho, they took both dmg downs for taking twice the same element in a row, but is the easiest way to solve it, to do it correctly you would need 2 from the other positions to swap elements, and swap tiles with the tanks
@@ninjafox1344 I get that, but it being the wrong way to do it has nothing to do with the original question. He asked why they swapped, I explained, mechanic was still failed but that was the motive for the swap which he asked about
Quick question about gearing. I have mostly 580 Limbo gear for my gear, I nothing you and the top tanks all wear the new classical gear even tho the stats seem worst than limbo. Am I missing something? Is classical better than limbo? Thanks
That Fire and ice platform, I am still confused with it. Why did they move in middle platform before they stay in their specific platform? If anyone can give me an explanation I will greatly appreciate it.
When in the Fire / Ice phase, the entire party has clock positions. Every position except N/S has a purple in the middle which is not something you want. So on the second cube, everyone has to either move N/S or stay mid. As far as my understanding has gone, you have to have someone standing on both N/S during second cube regardless of other clock positionals being empty.
Basically you get 3 cubes on your clock but here’s the thing. If you have double ice/fire debuff on top and bottom of your cube, your movement should be Clock > N/S to swap color > Clock. If you have Fire and Ice on top and bottom of your cube, you go Clock > Mid > Clock.
They move to the middle to avoid the purple crystals and for heals. There's time between when he attacks and when the crystals explode. If you don't need to grab a north/south crystal, then you just stay in the middle until the final crystal is ready. Getting hit by purple is bad.
It triggered me when I saw it live but now is just comical. Hopefully he figures out that he can be max melee as long as purple players get in tighter.
wonder if I should bother with savage if I have no group. Also not liking any gear for Reaper(I wish they make Reaper Striking now, I mean it feel like it was meant to since the starting gear is something striker get but not maiming).
glamwise ever tried the one from the dungeon in elpis? i use that in combination with 530 cryptlurker helmet. sadly its not dye-able but looks great. Next one ill farm is the elemental armot
@@hakki1098 I do have glam and I am using the feet from that dungeon but I don't like anything that was dropped in .01 and .05 outside of the striking tome set.
After watching this i don't feel so bad at running out the clock with a bunch of randoms and no voice chat. We made it pretty far all things considered, think we saw all the mechs, but got too tired to try again. Maybe tomorrow night.
Most fights are not actually super hard. They just look really intimidating till after you get a few clears. Then you can look back and really oh wow this is easy lol but nice job xenos
@@Lia-FFF2 I don‘t know if he lives in america, where the patch came in the middle of the night (and so he should sleep) or if he lived in europe where the patch was in the morning, who the most people should work. Because of this i wonder, how he and his friends could already find the time to beat the boss?
Execution wise I think it's fairly easy. However the mechs were significantly spicier than e1s or o1s for that matter. Had to steal Ferro's fourfold shackles strat cause we just couldn't wrap our head around it. But once we did it became braindead.
I thought Eden 1 normal was pretty challenging on my first few tries. and it's always fun running around like a headless chicken as the dozens of aoes scatter the floor. Pandaemonium 1 normal is like dungeon boss difficulty.
@@MrDoot-hj2ir I'm pretty sure thats not what this persons saying.. He's referring to the constant meme shouting. Not the mechanics "Hyper poggers, hyper poggers" lets go, lets go, lets go"
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When the boss was casting "Intemperate Torment" 00:02:19 his lower hand was glowing that indicates what cube would go off first which was the bottom one.
And then on 00:06:00 his upper hand was glowing, then the top one exploded that gave him the ice debuff.
Can u explain how the chains works how do u know red/purple in/out ? Is it a debuff I can t see it ty
@@valmontx9980 it looks like the in and out is linked to the weapon he throws
Out attached to the chain. If it’s the spiked mace it’s out (pbaoe) and if it’s the disc-like dancerish looking weapon it’s in (donut)
@@valmontx9980 you'll get a red or purple debuff. Purple have small aoe so the stay in and red go out
@@valmontx9980 It's a debuff and based on proximity to the player with the debuff. Red debuff will give the 3 furthest players an AoE, purple will tether to the 3 closest players. Purple can change tethers too so you want to stay in position until the mechanic is over.
Thank you so much guys
Every time at the end he's like " I want to take a picture" " take a picture with zeems" it cracks me up
I did ex2 with some streamer(didn't know at the time and they didn't stream their first clear >
Well done on the clear..
Hopefully the rest of us can get it just as quick
Honestly for such a ridiculously easy Normal I'm surprised how they jazzed it up
normal is just diping ur toes
@@KwehKwehKweh well I mean in terms of older 1st floors the normal teaches you a lot, because they usually just overlap mechs. This however is almost entirely different and I love it.
@@mrdarkstar3756 This definitely seems pretty elaborate for a 1st floor. No more are the days of Alte Roite and Faust.
just clarifying xeno is at the top 1% of the raiders. hes insane, so even if it look easy, its cuz he has skill, dont be discouraged if it isnt as easy for you
Haha this. Ppl shouldn’t compare themselves to a god tier raider unless they themselves are a god tier raider lol
Oh whatever we all saw that DAMAGE DOWN Xeems gooottt em
His group is top 1% when playing together. Big difference in a group and an individual. Imagine how the average party finder players would handle the tank taking extra avoidable damage and then killing the healers.
He seems fun to play with though at least.
I'm not sure if u can call it ez even for Xeno when they spent 2 hours on it.
@@foe9634 2 hours is a long time to progress something in this game?
He gets so excited for greeding the first red chain explosion, can't wait till he realizes you can just max melee it. Lol
Fight looks like it's gonna be super fun. I just have to make sure I don't get on the same amount of tomahawk high like Xenos did and accidentally kill a healer!
Ya kill a healer, we kill you. Fair warning.
Incredible. I'll be lucky to get week 2. These cats just yolo Savage like 3 hours after launch. Can't imagine what it's like playing with ppl that good. Grats bud your team is amazing.
On day 2 doing it with randoms got to enrage 8% been pretty fun and hyped getting so close with random strangers lol
Not only that but he doesn't even seem that excited to be honest. Like a sarcastic yay we beat it yay. Just another day.
Congrats! My favorite part was when you almost wiped the whole raid over the tomahawk hype.🤣
Yo the editor putting in work
Ty editor person 👍
what is this soundtrack which is in background - it sounds awesome
I know its been said before but this bosses hit box is massive lol
That was waaay too quick congratulations!!
whats the name of the song starting at 9:49? an no its not darude sandstorm...:)
Managed to get about 2.5 hours of blind prog with pugs in tonight, made it past second fourfold but realistically that's still my prog point. I have a week off starting Thursday so hoping I can at least make it to P3S.
This one has been a lot more fun than I expected, I really did not like the normal mode.
Now that I look back this one is a good place to start savage
hello xeems idk if you'll read this'n but is there a plan to get a guide going for the first circles of this raid? i really enjoyed your guides so far, entertaining and informative
For the second intemperance when Xeno asks Nova to swap. I think it was a mistake to swap directly with her.
Xeno stayed he took the ice debuff, then instead of swapping with Nova, he should have gone in the middle, have someone else to soak up the cube and finally he returns to his position to soak up the last cube.
Am I correct or is there something better ?
So my group has been doing what you said: if you got different top and bottom buff you stay in mid for the second crystal. However, there are times that the second crystal is ice and fire, but everyone that has the different top and bottom crystal has the same color. Therefore, without swapping, there will be one block left untouched and the party would eat a dmg down.
@@jiankundong7318 the way you solve this mech without anyone eating damage down. The right way to do this is to always have 4 people with one color and 4 people with the opposite color after the 2nd color hit. Because the third hit will always have a different color in each square adjacent to it. So about 6 mins in the video when he brings up squares and colors the first hit will always have the two tanks with one color and the party with the opposite color. So you have both tanks stack north, for the 2nd hit to swap to fire, then you have both healers south, to swap to ice, but you also need two dps to go south and swap to ice. Lets make the range dps do it. Now you have the four red and the four ice to solve this without anyone getting damage down. All you gotta do now is his out and in mech then you have the two range dps that changed their color from fire to ice to take the tanks original spot of north and south, while having the two tank take the range dps spot, the melee and healers go back to their original. Now everyone is getting hit by their opposite color on the 3rd color hit, and no damage down for anyone.
You have to swap a tank out for a corner for wave 3. I think if you swap the double closing element (ice/fire/fire or fire/ice/ice) with your nearest intercard you could do it without getting vuln, but people have to be aware of their surrounding and be ready to own someone else's tile
@@LeonTheSuperHero It involves much more movement but it seems it's working without any damage down.
Thanks everyone for your feedback.
@@xarnic291 The strat that I used was : MT (North) and OT (North-East) resolves each other block. The rest of the party resolve its own block.
At least in theory... Actually my OT wasn't good enough and I had to take a damage down to avoid a wipe. xD
Can you Arm’s Length that purple knock back?
no
Yo xeno, what are your camera settings? The distance and angle look crisp
Can anyone explain what nearly wiped them with the chains at 7:30?
red circle was in the party
Congrats!
Congrats dude, looks like a fun fight
anyone know why the tanks swap positions at 6:00?
They had opposite temperature stacks and needed to get the opposite of each other since the totem was 1-1-2
@@colemcgrath644 only 1 was 1-1-2 tho, xeno double ice stacked and got a damage down as consequence
it was still wrong tho, they took both dmg downs for taking twice the same element in a row, but is the easiest way to solve it, to do it correctly you would need 2 from the other positions to swap elements, and swap tiles with the tanks
@@Noctals I’m not saying it was the right call, I’m saying that’s just why they did it
@@ninjafox1344 I get that, but it being the wrong way to do it has nothing to do with the original question. He asked why they swapped, I explained, mechanic was still failed but that was the motive for the swap which he asked about
Love the video
Quick question about gearing. I have mostly 580 Limbo gear for my gear, I nothing you and the top tanks all wear the new classical gear even tho the stats seem worst than limbo. Am I missing something? Is classical better than limbo? Thanks
@@xarnic291 thank you!
Im more curious what that addon for parser is lol
I never done Savage before and I'm very anxious about it but I want to try it
Give it a go ^^, plenty of PF's out there doing it completely blind or only expect you to have watched a video.
Narr Locke is raiding with you?! I haven't seen him since he was on Zalera Poggers!
How did you get a dmg down on the second color swap mechanic. From my pov, you did it correctly?
oh, i got it...it was exploding top to bottom! grats on the clears btw!!!
That Fire and ice platform, I am still confused with it. Why did they move in middle platform before they stay in their specific platform? If anyone can give me an explanation I will greatly appreciate it.
When in the Fire / Ice phase, the entire party has clock positions. Every position except N/S has a purple in the middle which is not something you want. So on the second cube, everyone has to either move N/S or stay mid. As far as my understanding has gone, you have to have someone standing on both N/S during second cube regardless of other clock positionals being empty.
@@starsong7495 This, also there's a raid wide between each crystal proc so it helps healers top up the party to move in between procs.
Basically you get 3 cubes on your clock but here’s the thing. If you have double ice/fire debuff on top and bottom of your cube, your movement should be Clock > N/S to swap color > Clock. If you have Fire and Ice on top and bottom of your cube, you go Clock > Mid > Clock.
They move to the middle to avoid the purple crystals and for heals. There's time between when he attacks and when the crystals explode. If you don't need to grab a north/south crystal, then you just stay in the middle until the final crystal is ready. Getting hit by purple is bad.
Another clear for the Empire!
What plugin are you using for your meter?
why did he get banned at the end?
why is the DPS meter fake ?
Honestly this fight was so fun to prog blind
How does a ot now when it's gonna be a flare or stack?
The tank buster tells you, if it has grace at the end it is a stack, if it has purgatory or something it is a flare
Grats on the clear! Need to react to this today.
"YO HOW MANY TOMAHAWKS HAVE I OHHHHH SHIT mbmbmb" I died lmao
It triggered me when I saw it live but now is just comical. Hopefully he figures out that he can be max melee as long as purple players get in tighter.
My favorite part about watching vods of this fight is people trying to greed the red shackles when you can literally just stand at max melee XD
So im a casual noob player who doesn’t want to use discord/guild/ or even people, do I just quit before savage? Is this even possible to do in pug?
absolutely i have pugged all the content in the game or close to
wonder if I should bother with savage if I have no group. Also not liking any gear for Reaper(I wish they make Reaper Striking now, I mean it feel like it was meant to since the starting gear is something striker get but not maiming).
glamwise ever tried the one from the dungeon in elpis? i use that in combination with 530 cryptlurker helmet. sadly its not dye-able but looks great. Next one ill farm is the elemental armot
@@hakki1098 I do have glam and I am using the feet from that dungeon but I don't like anything that was dropped in .01 and .05 outside of the striking tome set.
Aww the theory my static had for Savage Shning cells was wrong :(
do u know what the actual solution is? i get confused watching the streams lol
How long till a breakdown?
how did he get damage down during second tiles?
took same element he already had, that pattern is really anoying to resolve
@@cameronnorris7315 not particularly. I think they didn't realise that the boss had his hands glowing so the cubes were exploding up to down.
Dont know who's the guy making the calls, but he sounds pretty good at it, has my cheers
9:30 widehappyPeepo
LOL the best part was when he was hype about the tomahawks and killed Chet. Great clear man, time to go over it with a fine tooth comb.
Warriors this tier: healer-"xeno has a dot" xeno-"it's ok Ill heal myself"
How the hell do you already know what AM to use and the mechs already? Seriously it amazes me
They spent more than like 3 hours learning the fight to get the clear.
@@DoctorMcHerp 3 hours isnt that long when its from scratch
@@hamyman35 Okay, and?
@@DoctorMcHerp so saying they spent 3 hours doesn't mean much. Its not that long.
After watching this i don't feel so bad at running out the clock with a bunch of randoms and no voice chat. We made it pretty far all things considered, think we saw all the mechs, but got too tired to try again. Maybe tomorrow night.
Wait what happened to the guy who dced did he get back in
I hope he at least got credit for the kill
He got back in and got the credit
damn fast upload
Grats!
Why do these guys always make it look so easy.
Just jump in and die and you'll start to understand them over time!
Oh, is that what it is?
Really just meant their static.
We need guides xeno lol
I wonder how do they know all these mechanics already and what each do? data mining?
This clear is the result of hours of learning the fight. You can probably find the full VOD in his Twitch channel.
Poor Chet died for Xeno's sins
Bman what up what up what up. love your video t hank you for your services
Couldve at least managed halfway if it didnt lag. Dont know whats wrong, game getting laggy as hell in instances.
What kinda damage is required for this fight?
Im not sure I understand what you mean. Do you mean what DPS roles are required? The DPS check?
@@Mycogso sounds like me means the dps check from what I’m inferring
Brain damage.
I got that reference lmao
Not much. You can eat some damage downs during Intemperate and some deaths and clear. It's pretty lax for a first fight.
doesnt seem that hard, i only questions for red/blue debuffs
All the day ones scratching for help raise ur hand o/
Wow these are the truth warriors of light congrats guys that was quick 👏😄
That's cool looking fight
Greedy Beard is Happy Beard 😂
what does it mean to 90k? also, grats on the clear!
It's one of the disconnect error codes. 90006. The other common one people were getting a lot was 2002.
@@Aria-PG oh thx, I had no idea, I got 2002 myself a few times, never saw the 90k
Grats grats grats go xemo
Is Savage like the heroic version in Wow ?
mythic equivalent
@@danceafterdeathfreecompany5028 I find it easier than Mythic, by a long mile.
Structure wise, mythic yes, but difficulty wise definitely heroic. Ultimate is like the mythic, at least difficulty wise
There is no comparison to wow because fights don't work the same, at all don't listen to these idiots.
@@Tigerhearty Found the WoW veteran
TOOOO THE MOOOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Most fights are not actually super hard. They just look really intimidating till after you get a few clears. Then you can look back and really oh wow this is easy lol but nice job xenos
Then try it out if its so easy 😅
Don‘t you need to work/sleep, that you have already cleared boss 1?
What? It just came out why would he sleap after 1 hour
@@Lia-FFF2 I don‘t know if he lives in america, where the patch came in the middle of the night (and so he should sleep) or if he lived in europe where the patch was in the morning, who the most people should work. Because of this i wonder, how he and his friends could already find the time to beat the boss?
@@Kylar195 just book it off lol not hard.
Streaming is his job that's why he has the time for it
@@Beyondthegalaxies824 Ah okay, this explains it. Thanks for the answer.🙂
Not bad considering how laughably easy nm was. This looks decently challenging
That's how it almost always is. It is in the name after all. Normal is supposed to always be easy af.
its the same with literally every raid, the normal mode is piss easy
Execution wise I think it's fairly easy. However the mechs were significantly spicier than e1s or o1s for that matter. Had to steal Ferro's fourfold shackles strat cause we just couldn't wrap our head around it. But once we did it became braindead.
I thought Eden 1 normal was pretty challenging on my first few tries. and it's always fun running around like a headless chicken as the dozens of aoes scatter the floor. Pandaemonium 1 normal is like dungeon boss difficulty.
Damn
Wow this clown gives off big jack murphy vibes...
He can be at max melee range while he's Red.... yet he feels like he's "so pro" for 'greeding a GCD when he didn't need to Greed it at all. XD
POGGERS
1st
Anyone else think the guy talking most of the time is annoying af?
@@MrDoot-hj2ir I'm pretty sure thats not what this persons saying.. He's referring to the constant meme shouting. Not the mechanics "Hyper poggers, hyper poggers" lets go, lets go, lets go"
It looks very easy compared to like e12s and basic/advanced relativity
U mean e1s, you can't compare p1s to e12s man hahaha
and titania is easy compared to endsinger
Why are you even comparing a 4th floor boss to a 1st floor boss god the idiots in this game.
@@penultimania4295 anime profile picture ofc what did you expect.
lol